Wings Over Scotland

Quel surprise, yet again! RE Labour in Scotland, you were always doormats.

Brexit sounding more and more like an impending apocalypse with every passing day!
Come the day – they’ll be the ones running the “black market” no doubt!

Macart , you haven’t got them all – I have a fair supply too!

We’ll be OK in all the departments you mention for months to come!

Be prepared – that’s the Boy Scouts solemn creed ,
Be prepared and be clean in word and deed ……

Good old Tom Lehrer! he knew a thing or too!

Just noticed, via the Rev’s twitter feed, the clip of the bod Colonel flip-flopping on Brexit. Early-on, in a clip from Holyrood, right behind her nodding his wee head or all he’s worth in agreement is The Linesman.

Another two-faced Tory tractor.

If you believe in the EU / devolution then vote SNP.

It really is that simple now.

The Tory government knows what is going to happen – but they’re not going to tell the general public, at least not until they have got themselves sorted with everything they will need to get through the consequences of a no deal Brexit. They and the entire British Establishment. All at the taxpayers expense of course.

D-day will be the day David Mundell leaves Scotland in fear, probably for an indefinite period – if not permanently.

I have visions of placating the masses post-Brexit with a new Soylent Green. Whilst Charlton Heston like Omega men hold up in bunkers underground, and Book of Eli Denzil Washington characters seek out cat oil to trade with.

Pet food. You’ll need to stock up on pet food. Just saying.

Stockpiling and panic buying of food will be great for the high street and Supermarkets.

Perhaps this is the best idea the Tories can up with to achieve the inflation they’ve been looking for eight years.

It would make more sense if they just looked in the right place: the asset markets are inflated fit to bust.

Which they will.

Re Bill @3:28 pm

– “You’ll need to stock up on pet food”

Now suddenly it all falls in to place who in all of our knowledge is not only a self proclaimed expert on all things economic – despite no formal or in formal training – and doesn’t know the price of fish in …. well anywhere really… BUT does know the price and value of Dog Food…..

Someone who would profit immensely in the event of a shortage of Dog Food but would suffer if the EU was able to supply such to the Independent Nation of Scotland who would be part of the EEA or indeed the EU……

Now the motivation against independence makes sense – money!

I am buying in tins, my freezer is stocked, but if no electricity that will be hard to keep.
I have a different problem, my Pug has an eye problem which requires drops twice a day or he will lose his sight. These are also used by humans. They are made in Belgium and having been stuck earlier this year because the manufacturer produces them in certain numbers for their various areas, my Vet could not obtain them. As it turned out I managed with a prescription to get them from the Pharmacy. Now if the Government is stockpiling medicines we can be damned sure the many medicines which are now cross overs for animals will not be available. It looks like I am going to have to see how many I can stockpile safely.
Just another thing for people to consider.

Not even a branch? When were they ever that important?

@Glamaig

“All this stuff about no deal, and stock-piling, might be to manage our expectations”

I feel much the same and that makes some sense at least of all this nonsense.

Still if the UK government have miscalculated where they are and how the Chequers White paper sits with the EU then it could all blow up in their faces and result in No deal.

If such a thing were to result, I’m talking of a total crash out without any agreements in place for anything at all.

Then that’s it, we’re up shit creek without a paddle for sure.

In other states governments of this current British type have been brought down by revolution. No one has confidence and trust in UK politicians.
The British state is headed for the finish.

Inshallah to that!

Sandy , what about the Ecuadorian embassy I hear they’ll have a space quite soon and Mundell the cullion could move in

Scottish folk who support British Nationalist Labour and Tories need to start listening to what is developing.

They owe it to their families.

The Westminster crazies are going to do serious harm to us.

Independence is clearly becoming urgent.

Now we have the Irish Prime Minister hinting at an extension to Article 50.

link to archive.fo

It’s difficult to keep up with the whirling dervishes in Westminster. Apprently, Raab C Brexit is demoted and Theresa May is taking personal control of the negotiations.
That’ll help.

link to bbc.co.uk

Meanwhile, 73% of Scots want to stay in the EU:
link to twitter.com

Now to catch up on the Supreme Court democracy fest.

‘Scottish’ Labour…here but not here, as it were. 😀

Not so shocking as we have known they are only an accounting dept. despite the very many leaders and their assertions otherwise!!

As there is more or less only the two of us at home now, I’ve enough food stocked up so anyone want jars of pickles, jam etc only a ‘few’ years old, just gie me a shout. 😀 😀 😀

link to bbc.co.uk

The BBC in Scotland, under the remotely controlled Donalda MacKinnon, is in diarrhoea mode over the Supreme Court hearing with overt support for Lord Keen the UK Government’s legal representative.

Holyrood is represented by the Lord Advocate, James Wolfe. Continues tomorrow with a decision later in the year.

The online article on this case in the Supreme Court carries a HYS section which is a further sign of the BBC’s obvious bias with a string of trolls for the UK side appearing with not a truthful or sensible word between them to say about Brexit

The BBC used to be the Harrods of television broadcasting but now it’s beneath Home Bargains, way beneath.

Everyone stopped what you are doing and watch ‘Who Is America’. Right now!

It is very scary yet so funny at the same time and we all need a good laugh as we watch the clock down to No Deal Brexitmanship.

The Westminster propagand channel is out giving it the full Malky.
Scottish Government Branded
Nasty Scot gov at Loggerheads with God’s own Westminster Government,
No right to decide such issues in Scots parliament.

The BBC are the cancer in Scottish Democracy!

Maybe we should comission a brexit version of ‘when the wind blows’

@Effijy

The BBC are the chancer in Scottish Democracy!

Both views are true.

Raymond Snoddy, Newsnight presenter 2004 to 2012 has a piece in the Radio Times in which he highlights the bias of the BBC in giving undue air time to pro Brexit politicians. He discusses the complaint submitted by Lord Adonis against the BBC on this issue. Adonis is arguing that the BBC is breaking the Royal Charter in the way they are presenting a heavily biased reporting of the Brexit issue.

He does not mention the Scottish Referendum and the utterly disgraceful behaviour of the BBC to this day on the issue of Scottish Independence. Scotland does not exist for the Establishment figures. Scotland and her representatives are treated with open contempt in Pariament. We need a more aggressive presence in Parliament and we need to stop playing by Westminster rules. Look at the upswing in SNP membership after the walkout. We need more of this type of response to Westminster contempt.

This is truely astonishing. I mean I thought that a UK freed from the EU straitjacket would be doing it’s own comprehensive free trade deals with the whole world their oyster.

Well it seems that may not quite be the case according to a House of Commons Library report issued today.

@Shinty

“Spare a thought for the folk that can barely afford their weekly messages, let alone stocking up.”

I’m sure all Wingers would agree with that sentiment, I certainly do. It’s the one reason I just can’t see Armageddon happening as it couldn’t last long without a complete breakdown in law and order that would be uncontrollable.

No government would take that risk ever. Smoke and mirrors.

Food shortages, eh.

Obesity crisis sorted.

Massive reduction in immediate and longterm SNHS spending.

Its true, I tell you. It’s true!

link to archive.is

Mundell is, of course, a tractor. His fellow rabid British nationalists no doubt agree with him that a No Deal brexit is preferrable, in their swivelling bloodshot eyes, to Scotland’s independence. They would gladly see the majority of people in Scotland suffering the unfair effects of a britnat brexit if it meant keeping the butcher’s apron flying.

Mundell and his ilk are scum.

How quiet are the tory and labour front benches. Tompkinson Davidson and the rest. Useless.

Call me dave, as I understand it its only private pensions that may be affected, they will still get them paid to a UK Bank account although that could cause some issues?

@One_Scot 6:15 pm
I for one am very, very suspicious of postal votes. I wonder if the Scottish Government can come up with some foolproof way of reducing chances of fraud, while retaining the possibility of postal voting for those who need it.

I have been saying for years thus was always so.

As for indyref II, those are the terms. It will always be about British nationalism v Scottish nationalism.

There are those swing voters who relate to neither of those. Those are the hearts we must win.

Lets just do it. We must. For the sake of our youth, our children and grandchildren. It is our future, not romantic notions of empire and the past which must be sold. Every empire wanes. History books are full of it. Wake up! Dust youselves down romantics and be part of a future stable and prosperous Scotland.

Vlad I hear you. I believe if the postal votes are tightened up we win, if not we lose.

Interesting watching the Herald at the moment, its latest headline: “‘Utterly shocking’ blow to Scots shipbuilding as plan for new frigates is halted“.

@Robert Peffers “London Crossrail running £600 million over budget”

That’ll be 10%, i.e. £60 million for the ScotGov as contrary to opinions, Crossrail spending does attract Barnett but not for the private investment, only for the bit the taxpayers pick up – which includes the tab for going over budget.

@ vlad at 7:31pm …… “Postal Votes.”

They seem to have an excellent system in Northern Ireland, vlad. Maybe that could be adopted?

This is one we all commented on at the time by the way – the precise timing and hence need to get the Continuity Bill in in time:

link to twitter.com

8000 MOD personnel we’re told are all brave sojers defending Blighty suffering the indignity of paying a wee bit extra due to being posted to Scotland. At a rough estimate their rank for that level of pay would make them about 1/9 of the total strength. Either someone’s exaggerating for effect or there’s 72,000 armed forces personal in Scotland or there’s a bookkeeping exercise posting them all to Scotland where they get a Scottish Tax code and as such would be eligible to vote in indyref2 if that was a requirement. Certainly a strategic method of packing ballot boxes in other elections and votes.

It’d also be a handy way to assign spending to Scotland that doesn’t actually happen here.

That Graeme Cowie comnmentary on the UKSC is excellent by the way, Phillip Sim BBC is looking in it as well.

link to twitter.com

Oooh, Heraldnomore, Where was that? I’m just outside Alkmaar…

Remember Gordon Brown claiming things about independence re transplants and other medical issues.

It was obviously rubbish,but,who would’ve thought the UK would be the one to *actually* plan stockpiling food,medicines and whatever substances of human origin turns out to be.Blood and organs?

Never EVER tell Scots how bad stuff ‘could’ get with independence,it would never get this bad ffs.

Tories and other Brexiteers,with straight faces,actually telling us about stockpiling food and essentials.Must be time for another poll telling us independence won’t work,it’s been a couple of days since the last one,after all. 🙂

Here’s an interesting one, at the heart of a lot of it perhaps:

“Advocate General says that the logic of this argument is Scottish Parliament could legislate for another independence referendum #klaxon and save it by saying the Act only comes into effect when they’re granted competence to do it.”

link to twitter.com

(don’t forget the AG is Westminster’s man, this isn’t directly about the S30, but in political effect it is)

I’m just up to the end of the AG case, seemed a bit tentative to start with but finished strongly. Now for our “Scotland’s Champion”, the LA!

Interesting comment that the LA apparently killed time so as not to make his next submission until fresh tomorrow. Timing is everything.

Oh well, back to reality.

Misteralz, Marx O’Larry is the place to go. Sounds local eh…

Stockpiling eh? Hah! How long do you think you can make it last?
The DWP have been very circumspect in training the most vulnerable in society in how to survive with bugger all for years. The Tories really did care all this time. They are not the soulless demons they are villified to be. There is a whole support network we can turn to now for advice. You did remain on charitable terms with the dole scum and disabled I hope? Oh deary me…Their price to you may be high I fear.

@Capella says: 24 July, 2018 at 8:23 pm:

” … I knew you would be in the thick of it keeping the flag flying. Your efforts obviously didn’t go unnoticed by the spooks!”

Well, Capella, believe it or not they were not at all worried about the SNP about that time. Probably thought we were harmless and nothing to worry about. It was the Communists that bothered them. Cold war and all that. I had as high a security clearance as it is possible to get. I could walk into Government top secret places without questions being asked.

I’ve been in most of the places like The MOD’s Science and Technology Laboratory (Dstl) (Porton Down). The Institute of Naval Medicine, (it is a leading authority on the effects of radiation).

I worked in the RADIAC Lab where we tested, repaired and calibrated instruments for working with Nuclear and other radiations, (like X-Rays), and also biological and chemical weapons instruments.

Mind you I doubt I would get security clearance these days as Westminster probably rates the SNP and YES supporters a greater threat to the UK than the Russians.

That doesn’t mean they didn’t keep a wary eye on us but I believe, by that time, they knew the SNP worked by democratic and legal methods.

ODG…slither

Rock at 10.05

This is now infantile and obviously you think you are discussing with half-wits.

Not the thirty thousand half wits that just joined the SNP of course.

Can it be that omni-talented Dominic Raab has been sacked? That lasted about as long as a Trump appointment.

I’m putting my feet up, sitting back and thoroughly enjoying the fun. If only we had media in Scotland to add to the hilarity.

Oi dick Leonard if you don’t like then do something about it one way is to back Scottish independence but you lot love being puppets of England and Leonard hasn’t the guts to go for it like other English do here as to him as that means betraying his country of England and he’d never do it the Yorkshire chicken he is.

As I said elsewhere, Richard Leonard was born in Yorkshire, kidnapped by Scotland, and is now one of the Scottish People.

I think it’s about time that we started fighting the British Nationalist propaganda with propaganda of our own.

Now that won’t be easy of course as their propaganda can attack our public services by telling us how rubbish they are through their media or by persuading food manufacturers to put Union flags all over their produce in an attempt to enforce the belief that our supermarket shelves would be empty after Independence as everything in it is “Made In Britain”.

Our propaganda can only be spread by word of mouth but that can be effective in itself. Instead of talking up Scotland we should be doing down the performance of the Westminster government. Let’s face it there are plenty of areas in which to attack.

So next time you get the chance to discuss Independence with a switherer try pointing out the following.

1. Austerity has made us all poorer, increased homelessness and allowed foodbanks to flourish. For everybody that is except for those it has made richer and they are definitely not supportive of Independence.

2. The NHS has deteriorated under their rule and things are only so much better in Scotland because it’s a Scottish government in charge and not Westminster.

3. Crime is increasing greatly except in Scotland where recorded crime is at an all time low. The fact that policing and law is in the control of the Scottish government and not Westminster is the reason for that.

I’m sure you could all come up with some of your own and my point is let’s start telling every No voter how shite rule is from Westminster and how better it is when Scotland has the levers of power and control.

Westminster Isn’t Working! so let’s all keep telling people that.

Missed out the “” in “respectable”.

@ Roger at 11:02 ……. “Food and medicine running out.”

Seems this will more than likely happen if there’s a no deal Brexit Roger, but don’t worry Dominic Raab is now in charge of that area and is dealing with it. Been sent out with the shopping list as we speak. The up-side to all of this is that obesity in the UK will soon be a thing of the past and with lack of medicine the bloated population (the sick, elderly and disabled) that the Tories complain about will be in decline.

@yesindyref2

Official or unofficial we are now in a campaign for our Independence.

@thepnr
“should be doing down the performance of the Westminster government”

But how could you possibly find fault with such a perfect institution? Don’t you know it’s “Thong and Table”….or some such.

The choice is clear – either the UK is virtually destroyed by a hard Brexit , or, the Tory Party is destroyed by cancelling Brexit.

Either way, only Independence can save Scotland.

@Petra says: 24 July, 2018 at 10:15 pm:

” … ITV News: Charlie Rowley and novichoc. Reporting it’s a “Russian chemical weapon.” Not telling anyone that they probably have it at Porton Down, England, a few miles from Charlie’s front door.”

These claims implying that only Russia has novichoc is utter claptrap and Porton Down will most certainly have it for Porton Down makes and keeps samples of all such weapons for a very good reason.

They not only are constantly developing anything new they can dream up but they research and develop antidotes to be used in the event of enemy attacks. Furthermore they must keep at least small samples in order to check comparisons – otherwise how could they identify any such weapons?

But the implication that only Russia can make novichoc is bunk because novichoc was researched and produced in order to be cheaply and easily made and the raw materials it is made from are not only perfectly safe as long as they are not brought together.

An analogy is that they are like Araldite in that they are made in two parts and the two parts are kept apart until required for use.

This makes novichoc safe and easy to handle and transport because it only becomes a deadly poison when the two parts are brought together as that, like Araldite, initiates a chemical reaction.

BTW: the raw ingredients can be bought by anyone, they are so safe they are not even on the restricted lists, and at least one of the ingredients is a very common garden weed killer.

Any chemistry student could produce the stuff for there is no requirement for a chemical plant. Just mix the ingredients for each of the two parts in the correct quantities, (being careful to keep the two finished individual mixed parts separate until required for use).

David Mundell, a politician, a so-called Secretary of State of Scotland…

“A no deal is better than being a normal independent country.”

Like ahhhhh ha ha ha ha ha.

It’s your turn Scotland.

Turn it around.

Be shocked!

Or you could just vote yes this time to being an independent country and go to the shops and pay normal prices just like every other international European country does do. Perceive being independent as returning to normal. There’s a big world-wide family out there.

What’s your contingency plan for UKexit, voters…

And where do U stand fellow Scot?

You have two options.

U may choose.

@Thepnr
Good to know the UK has actually been doing something about WTO. And then the article drops this in: “WTO members will have three months to review the schedule, which will be considered to be approved if there are no objections from other members”

Mmm. Well, let’s hope for the best.

Meanwhile I’m increasingly thinking it’s not just Indy we’re campaigning for, it’s our survival and escape from abject poverty, or abjecter than we have now. No Smilie.

I also think the Herald is getting agitated. It really doesn’t like the T31e “shelving”, and though there are a couple of mistakes, I’m just going to leave them to it, as the article has real impact – and anger. And so it should.

link to archive.is

@Dave McEwan Hill
He has the media ear that’s the problem. Or did, chances are he’s trashed himself – and it’s the tweets what done it. Have a gander at his twitter, meltdown. He’s actually pleading with Andrew Wilson to agree recent comments about “if Scotland had been independent 10 years ago” are spin.

‘Tis sad.

Job guarantee scheme – something which was considered pretty much normal post war..
And is gaining great traction in the U.S…
link to bloomberg.com

Be a great policy for an independent Scotland…

How do you spell Mundell?

Answer = Quisling

Scottish Parliament “subordinate” claims UK Govt in Supreme Court challenge;
link to indyref2.scot

Now this is interesting – snuck out as the Commons winds down it confirms what has been the case – disastrously it has to be said – for a long time; the PM is steering the #Brexit ship….straight for the rocks …;
link to twitter.com

Call for Westminster probe into Tory ‘dark money’ donations;
link to archive.is

unionists leafletting;
link to twitter.com

A dangerous void where government should be;
link to chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com

No-deal Brexit will make it ‘illegal’ to pay pensions to retired British expats living in EU, MPs told;
link to archive.is

Brexit: arguing Black is white
link to eureferendum.com

Anger as Welsh foods branded British at Royal Welsh Show;
link to nation.cymru

‘No deal’ Brexit is ‘Armageddon scenario’ for farming, NFU President warns;
link to farminguk.com

Truman Show Scotland;
link to randompublicjournal.com

Meat inspectors shortage ‘crisis’ blamed on Brexit;
link to archive.is

Government plan to fly in medicines for millions of patients in case of no deal Brexit revealed;
link to archive.is

Glass Bottle Inside a Box Carried Poison, British Victim Says;
link to archive.is

What will the impact of ‘no deal’ planning be?;
link to vip.politicsmeanspolitics.com

Department for Exiting the EU no longer responsible for exiting the EU;
link to archive.is

Here’s the big mistake the UK’s lawyer made in his message to the Supreme Court;
link to archive.is

Carrot and stick, but mainly stick!
by Macart
link to weegingerdug.wordpress.com

Senior SNP MP slammed for claims nationalists would vote for Thatcherism again (Warning, Daily Record);
link to archive.is

Have a great day, Wingers.
🙂

@Smallaxe

Appreciated Smallaxe. Have a good one. 🙂

Macart,

We appreciate your wise words, my friend. Enjoy your day. 🙂

The Greens and Airb&b. There are on average 15 family size apartments on Airb&b in Edinburgh and Glasgow. Out of a population of 2million. Not a consummate problem. The average cost for a standard hotel room at busy times is £300 a night with most accomadation being totally booked up. Festival time etc. With people having to stay miles away.

There is a problem with airb&b. People are told the accomodation is available and booked. Then the proprietor has 24 hours to say it is not. This is often the case but two+ inquiries cannot be reserved or people can get charged fees or for accomodation twice etc. Especially at short notice. There is a warning to cancel. The price has to be fully paid on application. Not like other accomodation, where a deposit can be paid. Or it can be paid on arrival.

Usually under the sale of facilities or goods there is an opportunity to cancel (7days?) without losing fees or deposit. No always clearly given under the small print. It can get frustrating constantly looking for alternative accomodation. Having been confirmed the accomodation is available. Having to make several inquiries.

24 to 25 Jul 2018 | 10:30
THE UK WITHDRAWAL FROM THE EUROPEAN UNION (LEGAL CONTINUITY) (SCOTLAND) BILL A Reference by the Attorney General and the Advocate General for Scotland;
link to supremecourt.uk

21st century UK.

link to archive.is

FFS!

ITV NEWS last night heralding the end of the Tory pay cap for Nurses and Soldiers etc?
No mention of how a Nurses pay has fallen in real terms by some 15%?

The U.K. media insults us by suggesting a 2% pay rise after losing 15% is great, but then we are
Told that there is no extra government money for the pay rise they are giving?

Yet more cuts are to be made to pay for a rise equal to this year’s inflation rate.

ITV put up a chart for Soldiers that proposed a 2% rise for an average soldier was equal to £900.00? My maths suggest that an average Soldier is on £45,000 and now on £45,900.

How dumb are people to accept or believe such utter garbage as fact.

Surely someone in the news team had to see these stats were no sense but then
Again if their job demands that they don’t see it..

This nerve agent story too is a complete farce.
Would you send a very expensively trained agent
Over to the UK with a perfume bottle full of a deadly liquid?

How do we know it’s Russian?
Did they give out samples of their formula to
Enemy nations? Did they post the recipe on line?

Would an Agent leave it in the Street for kids to find?
Would top Russian Chemists make a most deadly liquid
That sees 3 of the 4 people contaminated alive and healthy?

It now seems the male survivor had a memory loss as he doesn’t know where
He picked up the bottle?
The Liquid has no affect on past memory!.

The whole thing stinks of an incompetent Westminster plot.

After Kevin Hague we now have another cringer in Labour MP Paul Sweeney helping out the Tories on their ship building betrayal.

As the SNP’s Chris McElney points out:

Labour’s shipbuilding spokesperson here saying the Type 31 betrayal won’t impact the Clyde. Ferguson’s in Port Glasgow was in frame to benefit from this order. It’s like Labour don’t even recognise the yards existence because the Scot Gov helped save it from closure in 2014.

Seen on news last night that May has effectively put civil servant Olly Robins in charge of brexit.

Finally we have the permanent custodians of the ‘country’ sliding into action.

Raab’s discomfiture was palpable with Robins sitting imperious beside him.

This way neither of the ephemerous red and blue tory party leaders will be allowed to make party politics with the Brexit deal.

An alternative to a National government.The deep state in action.

Soft Brexit much more likely now imo.

I don’t think the xenophobic English plebs are revolutionary enough to revolt against an unknown apolitical grey suit.

porridge, powdered milk, wire to make snares and a great big gun. There’s deer in them thar hills.

Mr Raab looked extremely uncomfortable as he assured us that the Theresa in charge change was merely the Westminster deckchairs being rearranged.
Like on the Titanic? That was a Freudian slip if you like.

@Breeks

If they conclude that Scots are not sovereign, they are coming to the determination that Scots are subservient to the people of England. I can’t see any other conclusion I can come to from such a ruling.

I see that Councillor Chris McEleny is calling for MOD work to go to Fergusons in Port Glasgow. Aye great Idea Chris, make the yard CAPTIVE just like Govan and Scotston, giving Westminister another weapon to use against us.
Far Far better for Fergusons to stand on their own two feet.