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The Wee Blue Book – how you can help

Posted on August 13, 2014 by

We’ve been absolutely blown away by the response to The Wee Blue Book, readers. As we write this it’s about to pass an astonishing 200,000 downloads in just two days, and we’re besieged by enquiries about the print edition, which should be rolling off the presses any time now.

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But it’s no use just sitting around patting ourselves on the back about how much Yes supporters seem to like it. The most exciting and encouraging responses have come from No and undecided voters, and we need to get the book into as many people’s hands as possible in the next five weeks. Let’s get to work.

Firstly, lots of people have asked us for permission to do their own print runs of the book. We hereby publicly grant that permission to anyone and everyone. You don’t need to ask us individually. If you can afford to make copies yourself and distribute them in your own area, that’s brilliant – it saves a lot of money and admin.

If you can’t, though, don’t worry. A large part of our fundraising money from March this year has been set aside for printing the WBB. The first collector’s-edition run of 20,000 should be on the streets within days, another 50,000 will follow right on its heels, and probably more after that. If the demand keeps outstripping supply, we may do another fundraiser to pay for more.

If you’d like some to give out on doorsteps or wherever, please drop us a line via our contact form USING THE SUBJECT LINE “WEE BLUE BOOK DISTRIBUTION” and we’ll get them to you.

(Please only get in touch under that subject line if you can distribute at least 1000 copies. Obviously we don’t have enough yet to put through every door in Scotland, so we’ll be prioritising orders that can serve as large local “hubs” – if you want smaller numbers, we’ll tell you where to get them from somewhere near you.)

We’ve also printed tens of thousands of business cards containing a link and QR code for instant download of the digital edition. These can be easily handed out in the streets, popped through letterboxes, left in shops and pubs and so on (only with the proprietor’s permission, of course).

You’ll be able to pick the business cards up from the same places as the books themselves, or just get some made yourself using the image files. We recommend VistaPrint for fast, cheap, high-quality printing – if you click this link it’ll take you to the appropriate section of their website – but you may have your own favourites.

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The process is very simple – just upload the front and back images. (The reverse side is slightly more fiddly – you’ll need to remove the two bits of text “furniture” and then manually size and position the image to fit inside the dotted lines, as shown in the diagrams above, but otherwise it’s child’s play.)

We use fancy-pants high-gloss finishes, but the basic card will do fine – you can get 500 made for under £14 (plus £6 postage), or five times as many for twice the price.

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We also have a single-sided version (below), but on VistaPrint that doesn’t actually work out any cheaper. It may do with other printers, so feel free to use it if you prefer. (If you use the single-sided version you can stick anything you want on the reverse side, like a list of other websites or whatever.)

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You get the idea, anyway. Everyone can do something, whether it’s printing copies of the book, giving out cards or just sharing links and pictures on social media. But the important thing is that we need to get out of our comfort zone and reach people who aren’t already voting Yes, because otherwise it counts for nothing. Spread the word.

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Nation Libre

Hi Stu, I’ve downloaded all versions and printed a few to dish out. I have a duplex laser printer and would like to make the booklet up as it would be a bit handier to carry about A5 size. Can you possibly provide a download in the correct order for duplex printing so that I may produce the booklet please

Nigel

It’s been a tonic, that Wee Blue Book. I posted details on my blog and it has been by far the most popular page view of recent times. Also, lots of clicks on the download link too. Hopefully its undecideds looking at it.

Kenny

WEE BLUE BOOK DISTRIBUTION

Hi, I’m part of the Yes Paisley team, we have been running regular street stalls and also coffee mornings for undecided voters. We’ve been canvassing a lot and have quite a number of undecided voters identified. The Wee Blue Book would be an excellent source of information that we could pass onto them. We can also hand some out from the Yes Paisley shop. We could easily shift 2,000 or so if you have enough – any amount would be gratefully received.

thanks
Kenny

Silverytay

I could do with 600 of the W.B.B so I would need someone in the Chapelhall Airdrie area to take the other 400 .

Uncle Ronnie I am looking for your help in this as I know your house is a veritable treasure trove of YES goodies .

Rev , well done on all your hard work , it’s great to see our money being put to good use .

James Sneddon

I’d be quite happy to sit at a street stall and hand them out to undecideds in Edinburgh. Anyother wingers in the area fancy it?

desimond

Now we’re talking

This is more stirring that young Nicola’s rendition of Loch Lomond at the opening ceremony!

Nuada

Stu, you’re an absolute bloody marvel.

Simon S

Hi Rev.
It may be something at my end, I’m not sure…
When I click on either the “front” or “back” for the business card links all I see is the “back” image.
downloaded and opened in a variety of packages and only see the “back”.
Advice?

Johnney come lately

Stu.
When giving permission to everybody to feel free to print copies I think it should be added that the contet may not be changed in anyway.

desimond

Rev

Any bus shelter or roadside ads planned with

“Have you read the Wee Blue Book yet” style prompting, people hate to feel left out and many love a challenge?

Theres also those vans that drive around with Advert trailers behind, might be worth considering?

Suffolk quine

Hi Kenny
I am looking forward to seeing you and the team in Paisley this weekend.
I’m really glad we are handing out the Wee blue book.

Lesley-Anne

I’m sure you have secreted a camera about our apartment Stu. How else would you know to put this thread up today? 😉 I mean here we were discussing our YES South Annandale meeting TONIGHT and look what pops up on Wings? 😀

Coincidence, NAW I say inside knowledge! 😛

fred blogger

this is pure wonderful amazing, the truth is getting out there. “don’t blame the media, become the media”.
everything needs to be said @ the right time and this is exactly the right time. welldone to all concerned.
don’t let WM to continue to steal our futures, they have already stolen enough of them!

desimond

We could also try, via our respective online avenues to get

WeeBlueBook Wednesday going!

gerry parker

I’ve already forwarded it to 2 undecideds and one No.

Appending the link on my e mail too so everyone I e mail gets the opportunity to read or download it.

Socrates MacSporran

How about asking the Sunday Herald if they could put a copy of the Wee Blue Book into each edition, on one of the Sundays between now and 18 September?

Mealer

200000??? This is BIG.

ed mccabe

Hi, Has anyone found a good deal with a printer for getting the book printed?
Best wishes,
Ed

Andy Currie

Yeah i’m in Airdrie too and part of the local yes group. I’d love to ge some and will make a wee request asap.
Cheer’ for this Stu this could be our wee game changer.

Mealer

The Wee Blue Book Club

Ally

Is that not the Big Wee Blue Book Club?

gerry parker

On the best seller list?

Will it be getting serialised by the Herald or Scotsman?

I’ll get me coat.

🙂

CameronB Brodie

Just point me towards the Edinburgh hub. 😉

Indy_Scot

I know it’s not much, but I emailed the PDF file to the wife at work and asked her to pass the email on if she finds anyone looking for more information, or is not sure how to vote.

TJenny

Socrates MacSporran – what a great idea. I wonder if Stu has approached the Sunday Herald to ask if they would do this. It would shurely increase their sales on that particular Sunday. Maybe, though, it could lead to the same people getting 2 or more copies and we’ll all manage, in our own way, to get as many, or more, delivered ourselves.

I’m going round to my Yes shop in Easter Rd, to ask if they will take the WBB for distribution or just handing out in the shop. I’ll let you know their response.

TJenny

James Sneddon + CammyB – do we need to get the council’s permission to have a stall for distributing the WBB? I’d be happy to help do this, as long as it’s from lunchtime-ish onwards. 🙂

Jim Thomson

@Nation Libre – I use a duplex colour laser. You will find that the paper tray probably can be set to take A5 stock (remember to adjust the thing that tells the printer what stock size is in the tray!).

I use the original “desk top edition” of the WBB, print off pages 1 and 37 (any number of copies as required); then print off pages 2 to 36 (same number as before).

Make sure you single side the cover pages and have them set as portrait.

Make sure you double side the body pages, have them set to landscape and “flip on SHORT side”.

You can then put together a booklet with staples on the short side at the top of the front page. It has four A6 sized pages per sheet inside that are perfectly readable.

That will produce a booklet of 20 sheets. My semi-industrial stapler does struggle a wee bit, but hey, where’s the fun in a stress free production run? 😉

At last night’s meeting in Troon with Jim Sillars, Philippa Whitford, Ivan McKie and Ben Brotherston on the panel, we shifted all the booklets I made earlier; they went like snaw aff a dyke. The place was packed and had to turn folk (confirmed Yessers) away.

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Sylvie Burnett

Hi, I’m part of the group ” EU Citizens for an independent Scotland and I would love 2000 copies if possible to distribute. I live in Beith , North Ayrshire.
Cheers 🙂

YESGUY

The wee Blue Book is a cracking read Rev.

I have to hand it to you this time. Can’t count how many time i have been surprised .

We owe you a debt that will never be repaid Stuart Campbell. I hope one day to shake the hand of Scotland’s Premier Blog.

Huge thanks

CameronB Brodie

Rev., I think Nation Libre is asking for the document to be ‘imposed’ i.e. set up as printer’s pairs rather than reader’s pairs. I wasn’t in production so that is where my expertise ends. 🙂

Try making up a wee booklet from scrap paper, numbering each page. This will give you the order the pages need to run, apparently. 🙂

CameronB Brodie

I may just be terribly confused though. 🙂

dodecostanza

I’d like 300 for my area of Dundee. I’ve emailed Stu to enquire who in Dundee wil be distributing them.
If anybody else in Dundee knows of plans can you let me know please.

(After just receiving a reply from Yes Dundee saying they won’t be ordering any as they have plenty of the Your Choice booklets etc to be delivered….)

James Sneddon

TJenny- You don’t need council permission. I got advice from Edinburgh North and Leith about this. The important thing is not to cause obstruction. At the moment I’m trying to source tables and transport etc. Another thing I’m working on is setting up a central Edinburgh distribution point where YES groups can collect WBB’s for distribution to undecideds. I will bear in mind your availability for the stall thanks.

ed mccabe

If anyone wants to help me distribute at Danderhall, Edinburgh please let me know. Thanks Ed

Chic McGregor

@Nation Libre
I did my own A5 version just using screen captures. It is perfectly readable but my laser printer prints ‘smudge’ artifacts that don’t show on the screen.

Wouldn’t be a problem with pdf originals.

The A5 size is perfect because folk can keep it in their pocket or handbag. It is also a lot cheaper in terms of ink and paper and faster than printing A5s.

Plus, just a couple of staples and wullah! a proper wee booklet.

I would say though, that I would prefer two separate pdfs one for front and one for back since my laser printer does not have duplex. No big deal refeeding the reverse side.

I’ll send the Rev low res/bandwidth jpegs since working out layout for them is a bit time consuming.

Hope he has the time to do this.

Scott Minto (Aka Sneekyboy)

“Can you possibly provide a download in the correct order for duplex printing so that I may produce the booklet please”

That is a function of your printing program.

Go to ‘print’ and then select ‘properties’ then the ‘Document Options’ tab.

This should give you the option to print in “Booklet Layout” and the program will calculate the page positions.

CameronB Brodie

TJenny
I’m keen though don’t know the ins and outs of getting permission. I’d be happy simply to hit the streets, even though they are full of non-voters right now.

CameronB Brodie

James Sneddon
I’m, free. 🙂

goldenayr
Tobias Hendry

I remember the Scotlands Future white paper was available free on amazon. It would be good to get The Wee Blue Book on there as well. Shouldn’t be too hard to get it on the best seller list if we all download a copy.

link to kdp.amazon.com

Oneironaut

Not so sure that getting it into people’s hands is going to be the challenge.
After all anyone who wants it can freely download it.

The challenge will be getting people to actually read it with an open mind.
There are those who’ll see the Wings logo and go: “ooo, no, that’s those nasty Cybernats the papers warned us about!”
(And yes, I’ve actually met people who are that heavily brainwashed!)

Not to mention those No voters who are unwilling to even look at the other side of the story.
(Ashamed to admit I have one of those in my own family!)

Still, I agree that anyone who does make the small effort to read this will find themselves with no viable excuse for considering a No vote. Very well written! 🙂

I’ll definitely be passing the link around as much as I can 🙂

dodecostanza

But goldenayr…

WHAT IS THEIR CONTINGENCY PLAN B?

Eoan

Hello,

I’ve got a question on the statement on the Currency in the Wee Blue Book

“No matter what happens after a Yes vote, whether the UK government agrees to a currency union or not (although the overwhelming likelihood is that it will), Scotland WILL keep the pound. Because of the nature of Sterling, this is one of the few aspects of the debate which can be absolutely, unequivocally guaranteed.”

Don’t you mean “CAN” keep the pound, not “WILL”. In the unlikely event of a CU being refused, afaik there has been no announcement of the chosen plan out of the options available, therefore using “WILL” isn’t accurate here.

Cheers,
Eoan

heedtracker

Rev, google chrome on my ipad is blocking all WWB downloads but Netscape downloads them all.

Derek M

@Eoan i like WILL better as it is statement of fact ,where as CAN suggests something we will be allowed to do by another party ie westminster who will have no say in what we WILL do post yes 😉

Spout

Contact form sent.

I could definitely use 1,000 copies and would be really happy to be a hub for folk who would like a wee bundle.

Thanks again Rev – the WBB is absolutely excellent.

heedtracker

The Bank of England remains the lender of last resort to Scottish financial institutions and the guarantor of the currency during the period of negotiation over how Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom separate.

Vestas

Tobias Hendry says:

“I remember the Scotlands Future white paper was available free on amazon. It would be good to get The Wee Blue Book on there as well. Shouldn’t be too hard to get it on the best seller list if we all download a copy.”

Good call – it’ll get it significantly more attention in the MSM.

IcySpark

@Eoan

On the STV debate and since Alex Salmond has consistently said Scotland WILL be using the pound. Stu is quite right. It doesn’t matter what happens, CU or not, Scotland will use the pound.

CameronB Brodie

heedtracker
All the ducks appear to be lining up. Must be kismet. 🙂

fred blogger

Eoan
will keep the £ after a yes vote is fine. from the BoE
link to bbc.co.uk

heedtracker

This is the only link or download chrome let’s through

link to smashwords.com

Colin

I’ll email you Stuart but I need at least 2,500 to cover my little forgotten part of the North East. I can also drop off to other distributors if you want.

heedtracker

@ CameronB Brodie, all that “give us yer plan B AlicSamin” Flipper Darling finger jabbing, shouty posturing last week goes down the yew kay drain.

Wonder what’s made the Treasury act now? Good lunch in the City no doubt, on expenses.

Eoan

@Derek M I’d say “CAN” says we can if we chose to no matter what. “WILL” means we will.

@heedtracker Ok, it says “after a Yes vote” — I read that as meaning on Independence Day. If this is meant to mean between Yes vote and Independence Day then fine, but it didn’t read like that to me.

desimond

@CharlieMurphy

Is that Duggie reappearing with a new altar-ego?

(gettit!)

CameronB Brodie

CharlieMurphy
Brother Number Ane, if you don’t mind.

fred blogger

heedtracker
it’s something they dreamed up in desperation, it’s all they had.
now it comes back to haunt them.
should sturgeon take salmond’s place @ the next “debate” i wonder?

Black Douglas

@desimond

Nah Chaz aint our wee 👿 duggie, duggie was far more articulate when he talked utter rubbish. 😀

heedtracker

@ Eoan, it’s there in black and white old fruitee,

“The Bank of England remains the lender of last resort to Scottish financial institutions and the guarantor of the currency during the period of negotiation over how Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom separate.”

The real laugh in all the CIF frighteners that I read from my Slovene girlfriend to ace but mentalist Professor Adamski Tomkins at Glesga, is negations will take a decade or more.

Sp, another one bites the dust, another one bites the dust, and another one bites another one bites the dust… Doing my Freddy Mercury thing here”

chic gibb

I’m 62 years of age,well educated(degree level in physics),and I’m streetwise due to my upbringing.I tire of all the debate about this referendum ,but one thing I do know is that someone is trying to con me,and it ain’t Alex Salmond

James Sneddon

Thanks for all the kind offers of help here and on twitter. I’ve got a central Edinburgh distribution centre set up (Hub in new money) Rutland Square can’t get more central than that!). So just waiting on WBB’s arriving and coordinating times with various YES groups for them to be collected or delivered to them (depending on availability of car) As regards street stall I’m thinking more of handing out copies from bags. It’s just the best locations I’m thinking off. Given it’s the festival I want to reach locals living in Scotland not the visitors. So thinking along lines of shopping malls. Any other suggestions regarding locality welcome.

handclapping

Completely O/T
Talking to my nephew on the phone about who was getting the messages for my sister’s return home tonight,
“You know I’m No inclined. (At Christmas he was dead against!) What did you make of the debate? (Nothing as I don’t do TV) What was reported in the papers wasn’t what I saw at all. I was impressed by Alex Salmond. Darling came across as a nasty, shouty, pointy man.”

And I’d not said a word!
PS He’ll be getting a Wee Blue Book 😉

heedtracker

@ fred blogger, no I stand by Salmond personally. Sturgeon would be much the same and anyway, just because AlicSamin is teamGB’s public enemy no 1, he doesn’t poll that way here in Scotland, dark and deepest Surrey? Not so much etc.

heedtracker

One game changer? Two reports.

link to bbc.co.uk

link to bbc.co.uk

Guess who rammed this in to our side of the non border border?

“Mr Darling added: “The governor has confirmed that a currency union would not work without shared taxation and spending, the very things that Alex Salmond wants to dismantle with a Yes vote.”

Eoan

@heedtracker I agree with you. I just think the wording suggested after Independence, not after a Yes vote. I guess then it depends on how long we define the period of negotiations, as this could continue after Independence day.

gerry parker

I always understood that “Rev” was short for “Revolutionary”.

😉

TJenny

gerry parker – that’s what I thought too. 🙂

Faltdubh

Once copy sent to my “I’m abstaining. I hate all politicians” pal.

If anything, he’s not voting – so that’s not a vote lost, but once he reads this, I suspect, we’ll see a vote gained.

This along with a few Ayetalks speeches from Caroline Leckie and Robbie Shepherad too.

This is great work though on the WBB. I consider myself lucky that in my inner circle of pals/close family – I have only 2 no voters, and 25 yes, plus maybe 3/4 undecided/1 not voting pal (mentioned above).

They’ll all be getting this forwarded to them. I doubt it’ll change 1 of the No voters – he’s a BritNat basically. The other is “We’re too wee” but he has done next to no research into Indy, a lot of deaf ear attempts from me and others – so maybe no success.

But..

It will shore up the yes voters, many are voting yes on nationality alone question, but a few have been crying out for more info on currency, borders etc to squash numbskull talk and be more conifdent in public when discussing Indy.

And I strongly supect we’ll convert the “Ah’m no voting for either” pal.

No doubt about it, folks. No/BT are shiting it! 200k downloaded in two days, of course some will be for the other side, but I’m seeing links to the WBB everywhere on Social Media.

What we all need to do though. Is get this book out. If it’s mass printing, delivering through doors or forwarding to people’s email addresses.

The Amazon shout is great as well.

All the best EVERYONE.

WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS (Sorry for shouting, but we are!)

TJenny

Anyhoo – back from the Yes shop in Easter Rd but they don’t store the Yes papers for delivery neither do they have the space to be used as a hub for collecting WBB, though they said they’re happy to take some to be given to customers.

The main Yes shop for Ed N + Leith is in Timberbush.

James Sneddon – Rutland Square you say. Central + posh, and handily just round the corner from my hairdressers. 🙂

heedtracker

@ Eoan, why do you think that though? Why is negotiation going to take longer then the White Paper proposes?

Some UKOK screamers CIF or BBC etc say EU membership will be a decade plus wait but we are not voting to leave the EU and will we be EU citizens while our country isn’t, for over a decade? Way to many nutters around and some even in Law depts. at Glesga.

Eoan

@heedtracker I never said they would, I’m simply saying they could. For the wording, I’d have preferred ‘CAN’.. or a little more clarification that this is specific to the period between Yes Vote and Negotiations concluding, regardless of when they conclude. Anyway, not a major issue. Cheers.

creag an tuirc

TJenny “just round the corner from my hairdressers” Is that not a good place for WBB distribution. ALL hairdressers

norrie

James Sneddon

You thinking about a stall just for the WBB I’m in Leith and maybe be able to help with tables transport ect.

CameronB Brodie

creag an tuirc
Good shout. I have one in mind, as well. Thanks.

norrie

Ps think I maybe able to sort out storage in Leith need to contact the guy with the celler to be certain.

TJenny

creag an tuirc – hairdressers seem a good distribution point to me too, especially as folk sit reading whatever’s available whilst they’re waiting.

My hairdresser is currently a No (but could be persuaded maybe) and his shop was on STV news a few weeks ago and the girl that they asked there about voting in the referendum, replied that she didn’t have enough facts. (Unfortunately I wasn’t there:-( ) So I think as a service to his customers he may well allow me to leave some of the WBBs. 🙂

Proud Cybernat

So Carney has contingency plans for the BoE but won’t say what they are i.e. he won’t tell us his Plan A, Plan B, or whatever.

Why not? What’s your Plan A, Mr Carney? And the dependents expect Salmond to asnwer their dumb questions.

TJenny

CammyB – you have a hairdressers in mind. 🙂

norrie

James Sneddon

Space for storage sorted just of Constitution Street Leith (Queen Sharlot St) if needed.

Fergus

Having just had 193,000 News#4 pass thru my garage (for Edinburgh delivery via the individual area groups), the grassroots in Edinburgh has a ready made structure to get large quantities distributed.

I believe there maybe a batch designated for Edinburgh…

We can get it quickly to the 6 area groups, who can then make smaller quantities available from their shops/hubs/stalls.

Just designate a quantity for Edinburgh, and the rest will follow!

30k copies (5k per group) would be a starter.
Though as we are canvassing undecideds widely, I think we could easily take double that.

Albaman

I don’t know if this has happened yet, but it’s about time you, and your efforts which includes The Blue book, needs some official recognition, after all we are all fighting towards the same end result.

Andy-B

O/T.

Mark Carney the Governor of the Bank of England, has contradicted the Westminster government this very day,by implementing currency,contingency plans, if a yes vote is returned. The Westminster government have always said they, wouldn’t plan ahead with currency in mind.

CameronB Brodie

TJenny
Obviously not one that I use myself. 🙂

desimond

@CharlieMurphy

Am i too late or am I still in time to hear Charlie’s point by point destruction of all items within Stu’s pishy pamphlet?

(Pulls up chair, sits comfortably)

Ok Charlie, Please begin…

Robert Craig

Tip Top Stu – you’re a marvel

Jim Thomson

@Eoan

“Will” is a statement of intent, it’s not a guarantee.

“Shall” is compulsory because you’re being TOLD you have to do it.

“Must” us an extremely strong statement of intent that is almost as powerful as “Shall”, but not quite because there is an element of conditionality inherent in its use.

“Can” is an optional statement.

“Should” is guidance.

“Would” is conditional guidance/statement of intent

I know you’re specifically looking at “will” and “can” but there are many other possible flavours of wording. I used to proof read, and publish, regulatory docs as part of my job and understanding the context is also very important.

#JustSaying 🙂

Devereux

Anyone Glasgow Kelvin/ West End area? There are four of us here ready to liaise and help organise? Got storage if necessary.

James S

Wondering how many of the ‘facts’ are based on verifiable reality:

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-28761179

gerry parker

@ Desimond.

His shift finishes shortly, he’ll have no time to go into any detail.

🙂

Arel

I wonder if this statement from Mr Carney, who seems a pretty sound guy, is his way of telling the UK Govt.to cut out all this crap about refusing a currency union. This “reassurance” from the Governor is probably to steady the nerves of investors and traders if the thick-witted-ness on the CU Osbourne/Balls and Fanny boy continues after a Yes vote.

AS must surely be able to turn this big time on Darling at the next debate and I’d love to see Darling try and discount the Governors views in the contemptible way he does everybody elses’.

Maybe a we sublimal message here from Mr Carney that he’s no overly impressed with the UKOKS.

ronnie cowan

All local yes groups have been canvassing. They have a vast amount of information including all those that canvassed as undecided. That information can be used to revisit those people and if they are still undecided then give them a WBB. That represents a better use rather than handing them out randomly. I also intend to furnish all my groups canvassers with their own copy.

Ron Burgundy

Have pm my local YES co-ordinators and asked them to get in touch with you Stuart, in respect of quantities needed. Would love to put in some wbb’s into the hands of our undecided and soft yes based on our latest canvassing returns. but reading down the threat the demand is overwhelming but we cannot toss them out willy nilly and not to hardened NO’s that would be pointless. Only to 4 – 7 on the scale.

crazycat

@Eoan

My first attempt at replying to you did not post, so I’ll try again – I wonder whether you are taking into account that “will use the pound” includes using it outside a formal currency union? It is perfectly possible to express intent about that.

The “Arithmetic for thickos” post on the 8th of August covered that. (Sorry, don’t know how to turn text into a link)

Apologies if I have misunderstood what you were asking.

desimond

@gerry parker

Gargoyles do shifts 🙂

The thought that “It will be harder to find a proud NO voter come October than it will be to find Danny Alexander good job prospects” makes me smile when i see such sad wee folk. ( I mean Charlie…gargoyles are awrite!)

YESGUY

desimond

I wouldn’t hold my breath with Charlie .

I asked him for ONE reason for the union that would matter to the average person, just one and the bugger never got back.

he likes to throw in cheeky one liners usually about Wee Eck and his vision for a free indi Scotland. They usually don’t amount to much and short to the point little digs.

i imagine he now boasts to his mate (s) ?? that he’s an anti-Winger.

Bless him.

desimond

@YESGUY

I can hear Charlie the noo “Pah, Arguing is soooo last year. A typical Nats attitude!”

An Anti Winger – A Wonger?

geeo

“Will”
“Can”
“Must”
“Could”
“Would”
“Should”
……….

How about my series of words.

“Vote”
“Yes”
“End”
“Of”
…….
Charlie and Jim Thomson,

Pedants for No !!!

cynicalHighlander

ot:

Update on livestream tonight.

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Iain Gray's Subway Lament

BBC in full No campaign spin mode for Carney’s anmouncement.

They aren’t even trying to hide their bias anymore. Laughably blatant.

Marcia

I would not just give them away randomly. Target undecided and especially soft No voters, give some away free to the Yes Shops. Ignore Yes supporters as it would be a waste of resources.

I read the WBB on my breaks in work and it’s a masterpiece. It’s just the right length not to put people off and will make a refreshing change from the bitter darkness spewed out from the mainstream media.

Well done Rev and everyone who helped make it happen.

UncleBob

I am a solid YES voter and found the wee blue book a revelation. Thank you for helping me to feel 100% confident.

Iain Gray's Subway Lament

Marcia, the wee blue book will still be useful for team managers on the ground to help provide concise cogent replies on a number of issues to those helping with ground campaign. But just giving them out to those already convinced is, as you rightly point out, a waste of resources and should be discouraged. Firm Yes voters can easily use the links for the download version.

Linda McFarlane

I have a small printshop and I would also like a booklet printable version to hand out to my customers (I would print). I’m in Banchory which is fairly full of landed gentry who are scared of losing out under Independance.

macdoc

What i wonder about canvassing and all the great results is this.

1) Are canvassers gutted out in YES clothing. This will obviuosly affect the result of a)what people say and b)who answers the door.

2)Are they just asked the simple Yes and No question.

3)If No or D/K do the canvassers try and change opinion.

4)How are areas chosen. Is there a good range of affluency postcodes that are sampled.

5) Are the results just of who answers the door or are the whole household included.

6)Any patterns picked up according to age, sex, region, affluence etc.

I’m unsure whether to believe these results or the official standardised polls.

IcySpark

BBC1 Scotland Tonight 22:35

Our friends in the North.

“The referendum debate will be dominated by the relationship between Scotland and England, but shouldn’t we look further afield to define what Scotland’s future, independent or not, will be? Many supporters of independence look north, to Scandinavia, for inspiration.

They talk of the Nordic model, which marries dynamic, open economies with high public spending, greater equality and excellent public services. Allan Little has reported for the BBC from more than eighty countries. In Our Friends in the North he asks whether we could pick the Nordic model off the shelf and use it here.”

Worth a watch.

Nana Smith

O/T

Labour are a disgrace without doubt

link to snp.org

Betty Boop

The WBB is a great addition to our armoury. Had a meeting last night featuring Jim Sillars, Ivan McKee and the superb Dr Philippa Whitford and the Wee Blue Books we had printed flew out the door.

I had also concocted a flyer about the WBB with info on downloading and made them available to as many as possible at, as my son called it, “rammed out” meeting.

We had a great meeting BTW. There are plenty of undecided voters out there who just need the confidence to jump to yes. Seeing and hearing the positivity and vision at such meetings encourages them.

Onward!

cauld tattie

Just went to order cards on Vista Print and the price quoted is £27.74 + postage. Can’t find the 1/2 price deal Rev was showing in this article. Any pointers please.

Fergus

macdoc: “What i wonder about canvassing…”

Only one way to find out.
Join your local Yes Group’s canvassing efforts, and all will be revealed!

Training provided.

The local Yes groups that have been building for the last 2 years are still welcoming volunteers.
They are experienced, have the resources and contacts, and always need extra help.

Jim Thomson

@geeo 6:08

Yeah, well, it was my working life for long enough, old habits die hard 😉

Completely agree with your series of words btw.

Who’s “Charlie”?

heedtracker

Jacky Bird is a DK

Wp

O/T. I’m sure Ms Bird will give Mr.Darling the same kind of treatment. Aye Right.
Alex did very well though.

cauld tattie

Re Vista print – discount at checkout still came out at just over £22 plus £6.99 delivery with estimated delivery date of 28th Aug(unless you want to pay £17). :{

CameronB Brodie

Nana Smith
Labour have accepted the ‘underclass theory’ touted by social Darwinists like Boris Johnston.

Marx makes a clear distinction between proletariat as salaried workers, which he sees as a progressive class, and Lumpenproletariat, “rag-proletariat”, the poorest and outcasts of the society, such as beggars, tricksters, entertainers, buskers, criminals and prostitutes, which he considers a retrograde class.[11][12] Socialist parties have often struggled over the question of whether they should seek to organize and represent all the lower classes, or just the wage-earning proletariat.

link to en.wikipedia.org

Kraus and Keltner found that the higher people perceived their social class to be, the more strongly they endorsed just-world beliefs, and that this difference explained their increased social class essentialism: Apparently if you feel that you’re doing well, you want to believe success comes to those who deserve it, and therefore those of lower status must not deserve it. (Incidentally, the argument that you “deserve” anything because of your genes is philosophically contentious; none of us did anything to earn our genes.)

link to slate.com

kestral

Hi guys its your frendly ebay distributor of leaflets again

Do you want me to put up a listing so that people who can only pass out 10-100 can order them straight through ebay

I did well sending out 100 leaflet sets and if stu wants me to do it with booklets then I am happy too

Stu – if you want to work it this way let me know

Reader let me know if this helps you if you only want small quantities

Nana Smith

That birdy one is a —–

Sneering and sniping her way through an interview, shows herself up

CameronB Brodie

kestral
That would be perfect for myself.

Robert Peffers

@Rev. Stuart Campbell says: 13 August, 2014 at 3:07 pm:
“The book is designed to be A6 size, by the way, for easy pocketability.”

Now he tells us :-))

Now I know why my attempts at A5 were a wee bit strange.

heedtracker

Bird’s a bit of a shock to watch as its no doubt how they go at it in Pacific Quay news room all the time. Bird sneers “the English NHS is NOT being privatised and its just YES doing it projectfear style”
Is that true BBC in Scotland?

heedtracker

Quick google “NHS privatisation England” and first up

Make your bloody minds up bettertogetherBBC perlease!

link to bbc.co.uk

Halt NHS privatisation, says Labour’s Burnham

heedtracker

You dont have to be mad to be a vote NO BBC ligger but it helps. Nice face lift though Jacky, maybe nip and tucked your memory too sadly.

Labour has called for the NHS in England to stop privatising services until after the general election.

In a speech, shadow health secretary Andy Burnham said “privatisation is being forced through at pace and scale”

Banock1314

Hi Silvertay
I can do chapelhall, as I live in the new estate

heedtracker

Also but not only

link to theguardian.com

“The NHS is on the brink of extinction – we need to shout about it” outside bettertogetherBBC Pacific Quay HQ, preferably

caz-m

heedtracker 6.41pm

“Jacky Bird is a DK”

Tell me you’re joking heedtracker.

or have we to fill in the blanks, D–K?

Nana Smith
fred blogger

heedtracker
dr lucy reynolds on nhs privatization. how it has been slowly set to make privatization easier with no big bang.
link to youtube.com

fred blogger

heedtracker
dr lucy reynolds on nhs privatization. how it has been slowly set to make privatization easier with no big bang.
link to youtube.com

muttley79

@heedtracker

Did Jackie Bird really say that the NHS in England was not being privatised?

caz-m

Wp,
“I’m sure Ms Bird will give Mr.Darling the same kind of treatment.”

I am sure it’s Sally Mags turn to interview Darling tomorrow night.

Nana Smith

Good grief as if Cameron wasn’t bad enough…

link to standard.co.uk

AnneDon

@jamessneddon – there’s a Facebook event set up to leaflet the Hearts/Hibs game on Sunday, so that might be a good way to get leaflets out to Scots rather than Festival visitors!

heedtracker

@ muttley79, yes Bird is not a Yes vote, shock. I think that was part of her attack, sorry interview, strategy, that YES is trying projectfear’s thingee.

Then she leaned back and goes, come on that’s a crock England’s not privatising NHS and you lot use private hospitals anyway. Salmond’s very good though, laying out Bank of England independence and how it controls monetary policy but Scottish government would control fiscal policy, tax n spend basically. Its all to play for and FLipper will no doubt get a nice back rub and there there Alistair, they are a bunch of blood and soil dictator worshipers:D

Bird not likeee!

Harry McAye

It is Sally Magnusson (I’ve never understood why she is not called Magnusdottir!) so we can’t compare and contrast. Bird was so condescending. I wonder what Philippa Whitford made of her assertion, her opinion (like Marr!) that the NHS down south is not being privatised. Others have already provided the links to show that it is a real threat to the NHS in England.

Croompenstein

OT – New found footage of Jackie Bird as a wee lassie just after she lost at conkers to wee Alicsammin…

link to youtube.com

caz-m

Bird is there to interview politicians, not sit and disagree with them and spout lies as a rebuttal.

You would never have guessed she’s not too keen on this Independence thing.

She asked Alex Salmond a question, and before he got two words out in reply, she was talking over him.

Oh, they are a bitter lot down PQ way.

I’m sure I saw Alistair Darling’s slippers sitting under that desk in the studio tonight.

“There there Alistair, is there anything else I can get you before we start our little tete a tete.”

annie

Why does airhead Jackie Bird think she has to be a cross between Kirsty Wark and Jeremy Paxman. She was a complete embarrassment,the Sally Magnussan interview was head and shoulders above that travesty. Hopefully if her colleagues aren’t honest with her, her kids will be when she gets home.

Cindie

@Kestral:6.47 that would be great. I know I won’t be able to give away huge amounts but definitely like some to share.

Thepnr

@dodecostanza

You need 300, I’ve requested 1000 from the Rev so a good start is to give you what you need. Email me at aclark@oenseasengineering.co.uk

Tackety Beets

Thanks Rev and Every one here on Wings . I have been concentrating mainly on the general public out there responding to their questions etc . I can happily report my son has just e-mailed the family the WBB and he is now YES ! Hopefully he can make an impact with the others . I’m too passionate to discuss with those closest to me . Like many here I can’t understand or believe anything from BT etc Sadly if you check any “No” trail on line they can only insult and swear etc , its quite uncomfortable reading ! Nothing of substance , reason or politeness like the good people of Wings . I’d go so far as to compliment everyone , sadly Wings is very very addictive . The recent figures indicated 6 mins per session ….. more like 6 hours EVERY session ! ….. 12 /10

Thepnr

bugger. openseasengineering not the above.

wingman 2020

@James Sneddon

James … happy to help you in Edinburgh.

Andy-B

Heres’ the independence live debate with Robin McAlpine in Kirkintilloch began at 7.30pm.

link to new.livestream.com

Big Jock

Will be printed and left in my office after today’s fiasco.I listened over and over again to two women slagging Salmond and why they would vote no because of him.After deep breaths I eventually lost it and said :”you are not voting for Alex Salmond!”We went round in circles and I said stop falling into the msm trap and personalising a vote for your nation.They then said who would vote for Salmond answer was me and 47% of the Scottish nation at the last election.Also advised that they were a very competent government.I said in any case he is just the leader you are not voting for him.One guys attempt at humour that’s what Hitler said!Just ignored that as the so called humour to me is barbed.Good god the people I work with!

Dorothy Devine

I think it’s about time that the FM and the rest of the gang took action against the intruding ,interrupting interviewer by folding their arms and saying , ” Fine – you tell the viewers what I think , I’ll just keep schtum”

I wonder what the rude ,conceited, arrogant ,self important buggers would do.

I don’t know if anyone remembers the Parkinson interview with Robert Mitchum – Mitchum conducted the entire thing with ” Yup” “Nope” answers. Parkinson didn’t enjoy it.

Edward

Regards Oil
I thought some might find the following interesting to read
they are all .pdf available online
First is about investing in Hurricane and what they have
link to investorschronicle.co.uk
(you will have to add the https to above)

The ‘Pilot’ pages shown on the above are from this :
link to pesgb.org.uk
(you will have to add http to the above)

and finally from Business Scotland :
link to businessforscotland.co.uk
(again add http to the above)

Andy-B

Also here’s the Radical independence, public meeting from live from Pollokshields.

link to new.livestream.com

Papadox

Jake the Burd what a waste of space and nasty with it, the way she tried to act in her superior way to try and look down her nose at ECK. What a snob and nasty piece of work totally unprofessional, arrogant, ignorant and biased to the bone and thinks she has the right to show it openly.

She is the epitome of your middle class NO snob, and is not the brightest button in the box, appears to be prerequisite for a career in EBC, it ain’t what you know it’s who you know.

Colin

How about another crowdfunding excercise? The more money we raise the more books we could get printed.

CameronB Brodie

These guys should be the soundtrack for the indyref movie. Something along the lines of Pulp Fiction, IMO. 🙂

messer chups – trashman upgrade
link to youtube.com

Lesley-Anne

Ooh this is weird!

I’ve got both Kirkintilloch and Pollokshields livestreams up and running at the same time. Confused? You soon will be! 😛

cauld tattie

RE Vista Print
Rev, I registered a new account.

James Sneddon

Anne Don Yes, I saw the Hibs and Hearts fans for indy advertising their joint stallvat Tynecastle. I havn’t heard from the Rev yet when the Wee Blue Books will arrive, maybe we’ll have some over for the next derby.but until then we’ll be distributing them to various YES groups in the area. But it looks like the initial batch of 1000 are already claimed for distribution (visions of wings readers trying to look undecided sliding up to YES stall for a copy :D)

David S Briggs

Didn’t see it, but she will have won us a few thousand more votes.

Hopefully YouTube will have it.

Croompenstein

@David – Here it is, stand in awe of our impartial media..

From 4:10 in..

link to bbc.co.uk

Juteman

“She is the epitome of your middle class NO snob”

No she isn’t. She maybe thinks she is.
I remember her from her Dundee days in the Scout Bar.
Hello Jackie. 🙂

Rock

Albaman,

“I don’t know if this has happened yet, but it’s about time you, and your efforts which includes The Blue book, needs some official recognition, after all we are all fighting towards the same end result.”

Forget about ‘official’. This will be a grass roots win and we the people will give Stuart a massive welcome and thank you when he returns home.

Silverytay

Banock 1314
I stay in St Abbs way and have been delivering the your choice and YES newspapers around the estate .

If you are willing I will see if we can get a thousand from the Rev as we need 600 to cover the estates that includes Dalbeatie Braes and Lammermuir Drive etc .

There are another 3 estates as you turn up Lancaster Ave from the roundabout at Penny Cabs .

If the Airdrie and Shotts Yes team are getting a delivery we could maybe get a 1000 from them .

muttley79

Meanwhile Guardian Cif continues to attract raging Brit nats. The latest is:

Its not a smear when it is true.

And when people are threatened to be rape and/or killed by Yes supporters.

Stop distracting the point that the Scottish National Party is a nationalist party and is the product of Nazi sympathisers. Its true whatever way you look at it.

Lesley-Anne

Thanks for that link Croomp. I missed it as I was out at our local YES group meeting. Having just watched Jackie Bird do her own version of self destruction I think I made the right choice tonight. 😀 I can’t wait for tomorrow night’s all comers “love-in” with Alistair Darling! 😛

Thepnr

@muttley79

I think that person needs flea in their ear. Give me the link please.

Mary Bruce

Off topic:

Just thought I’d share this wee bit of entertainment from Aberdeen Coonsil:

link to pressandjournal.co.uk

HandandShrimp

Halt NHS privatisation, says Labour’s Burnham

It is a joke Heedtracker, you know what a joke is don’t you?

No no no...Yes

Croompenstein @8:37pm

BBC iplayer link.
Thanks. I watched Jackie Bird, or will it be LadyBird, interview the FM.
He was on top form and despite her interruptions with inaccurate information, he had time to develop his points.
Wan’t wait for Flipper’s turn tomorrow

Lesley-Anne

I see the BBC have confirmed that Alex Salmond will meet Alistair Darling for the BBC debate on 25th August at the Kelvingrove Art Gallery and Museum and will be presented by Glenn Campbell. Well that’s all fair and above board then. 😉

Big Jock

Just watched the Jackie Bird interview.What a nasty sneering piece of work.Hope you are proud of yourself Jackie!At one point I expected her to produce a punishment exercise for Salmond..Bad Boy!

No no no...Yes

Mary Bruce 9:01pm

Aberdeen Council magaxine cover. Here was me thinking that “Newsh*te” was the BBC’s replacement for Sarah Smith’s dire Scotland2014.

James Sneddon

wingman et al I’m pulling together hand trolleys and bags for holding WBB’s so we won’t break our backs lugging them around town. So expect a announcement in the near future. If you’re on twitter I’m @sneddon666 otherwise I’l make a O/T announcement in the latest post with my contact details.

Ian Kirkwood

Brilliant job Stu and your helpers with the WBB. Please also check out the Business for Scotland site for their Vision for Scotland publication. Also excellent support material in the run up to the 18th.

Edward

Croompenstein

Found Jackie Bird’s interview style completely and utterly disgraceful.

Not quite sure who she was trying to emulate, but her condescending approach was not what a journalist should be.

Okay Bird is not a journalist, so why have her interview, instead of someone like James Cook, Brian Taylor or Isabel Fraser?

Jackie Bird should stick to presenting, general entertainment is what she is good at, but that’s all

Jackie Bird’s future in Scottish broadcasting? she should stick to what she is good at, she is no Kirsty Wark

Apart from what I’ve said, as far as the bias meter, she was completely of the scale!

Lets see how she performs with Darling

Faltdubh

Just watched Jackie Bird, haha – can she look any more condescending.

“That’s NOT independence”

David S Briggs

I’ll probably be unpopular for saying this, but I thought the interview was OK. She asks questions and allowed the FM to develop his answers. She played devils advocate and asked him questions as if she were speaking as a ‘No Thanks’ person (cough). It worked well. Alex was able to get his points across and came out of it ultimately smelling of roses.

Looking at it dispassionately it was a super advert for the ‘Yes’ campaign and I don’t know why anyone should be uptight about the interview.

Alex Salmond was a superb advocate of the vote for ‘Yes’. I’ll take that any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Lesley-Anne

Don’t forget either Faltdubh that, according to oor Jackie, the N.H.S. down South is NOT being privatised and is in fact receiving MORE money. Hmm, must be great constantly living in the alternate universe these days. 😛

fred blogger

i posted a link up the way re nhs privatization, the content of it prove salmond to be absolutely spot on.

Calgacus MacAndrews

Wee Blue Book Tips issue #666 :-

Anybody that gets on TV (on the panel or in audience) take a copy of the book, and show and refer to it at every opportunity.

Anybody that gets on radio (on the panel or call-in) have a copy of the book, and refer to it and quote from it at every opportunity.

Anybody organising or attending YES meetings from here on in make sure a supply of WBBs are available, and that this is mentioned and recommended to NOs and UNDECIDEDs from the platform and audience (also picked up on Livestream or any filming of meeting).

Anybody making or putting up Pro-Indy YouTube videos from here on in please feature the WBB (and web link to download it) at the end of in the video closing credits.

KenMacColl

Trying to register a complaint with the national broadcaster is a wholly futile exercise and total waste of time. They truly believe that they are infallible but the “interview” tonight of the FM by Jacky Bird was excruciating. This made the Dundonian pieman look competent and professional.
Stick to the Hogmanay show, Jacky!
Salmond patiently and courteously corrected the several wrong assertions as JB slavishly followed her script and fluttered her eyebrows, apparently under the impression that ham acting would get her through. Sadly she was not even competent at that.
As they say at Pacific Quay, “Toodleoo the noo”

Lesley-Anne

I’d almost let you off with David except for her behaviour during the part of the interview where she all but came out and called the First Minister a flat out liar. 😉

Croompenstein

@David – The FM was ok, it was just Jackie Bird’s sneering, contemptible attitude that stank.
Loved it at the end though where Alex said the yes campaign and this FM are ‘up for the cup’ 😀

Papadox

I herd a rumour that SLAB, Glasgow City council and Aberdeen Council are making plans to move to Engerland in the event of a YES vote.

SLAB spokesperson said “we have been rumbled by the illiterate so it’s time to call it quits and move back to our Fatherland”

Jake the Burd has been awarded the cross of St. George (3rd class) for services to Engerland, HMG and the EBC. God bless her. A lady of the (rich) people.

Lesley-Anne

Oops!

Looks like I’ve upset the moderator with my last comment, oh well wrist well and truly slapped. I don’t know why I’m slapping my wrist but hey moderator says go into moderation then off I go slapping wrist as I go. 😛

SquareHaggis

@ Kestral,

eBay would do nicely if you can set it up 😉

kestral

not a problem guys and gals

I will email stu for a 1000 at the moment and will get some of the business cards printed myself

I can then do a
Booklet only
Business cards only
mixed pack of them both

Then people can get the exact mix they want under the one postage

🙂

David S Briggs

@Croompenstein

We can be too sensitive at times. We have to look at the whole picture. It was a great advert for the ‘Yes’ vote and I for one was greatly taken with the whole thing. The ‘No Thanks’ view was made to look pathetic by the First Minister and it was a win for us.
However Bird wanted it to pan out, we won hands down with the interview and I don’t see the point of bitching about it.
We won and that’s all that matters.

Tam Jardine

Ok – will take a 1000 from the Rev to deliver – can’t wait. I think this may be great for the soft no who may instinctively turn away Yes canvassers.

Plenty of No voters are otherwise very intelligent people – the kind who will pore over party political leaflets from parties not their own. I think getting this through the door will be a bit of a revelation for anyone with an even semi open mind.

I live in a fairly middle class area – I reckon the intelligent and logic approach is perfect for this demographic.

As for the undecided – it is pure dynamite.

Our only barrier are the numbers Stu can print unless there is another fundraiser.

ronnie anderson

Am contacting Tommy Sheridan Jakie Birds no getting a lend of his tanning machine again

Paula Rose

Eek – anybody able to explain how to upload the business card for printing in laylady’s terms?

Andy smith

Jim sillars has an excellent piece in todays Edinburgh evening news regarding how one man from the m.o.d. put the kybosh on oil and gas exploration around the firth of Clyde in 1981.
As he points out this was at a time when thatcher’s policies were decimating Scottish industry,a time when we were crying out for new jobs,but the mod decided for us that having a few jobs with trident was the way to go.

Croompenstein

@David – no probs let’s not get hung up on the big burd there’s a wee blue book with a whole load of undecided’s names on it 🙂

Thepnr

@David S Briggs

I agree.

X_Sticks

Is anyone arranging print copies for Aberdeen or Aberdeenshire?

Flashed through the thread but couldn’t see anything.

Calgacus MacAndrews

There is a Wee Blue Book cover image (showing download link) here : link to i.imgur.com

I have printed it out on my laser printer full-page A4, and it is going up in the window with my YES and YouYesYet posters.

I would recommend anyone who has a house which has at least one window to get one printed and do the same.

This will get the WBB message out there on the streets.

Ditto on any notice boards than anyone has access to …

(CameronB … dinnae gae me grief aboot the font.)

gerry parker

Yep- unprofessional BBC there. She got slaughtered.

They’re using the rope they’ve been given.

🙂

Graeme Doig

Ronnie Cowan

Re info gained through canvassing by Yes groups. My thoughts exactly. Just emailed local coordinator for his thoughts.
Using all the info on undecideds seems best way to target WBB.
Just hope Yes are up for it.
Stu : No matter the result your work is above and beyond. Well done mate and many thanks.

heedtracker

Pacific Quay are the last barons of Scotland so complaining probably gets the game of thrones chop your head off treatment in the been news office of fun.

The cameras at BetterTogetherBBC always zoom in close up for SNP people but old Jacky Bird gets the long distance approach. I’m not complaining, I don’t actually want a close up of the old gal but no doubt they’ll be rubbing Vaseline on their lenses next, aka Doris Day, anything for TeamGB propaganda.

gorbalito

I want to send £30 to wings over Scotland to enable them to increase publication and, encourage my freedom fighters to do the same, providing you think this is a good, viable and acceptable idea. The wee book is our chance to circumvent MSM propaganda? qui!

Thepnr

@heedtracker

Your an absolute nutter!

Lang mae yer lum reek.

ronnie anderson

Ah hope Alidoonstair Darling gets the same aggresive Jakie
Burd, ah dont think.

Lesley-Anne

Inside knowledge is a dangerous thing these days Thepnr, particularly, it seems, in the hands of heedtracker. 😛

K1

Devereux, happy to co ordinate with anyone in the west end to deliver through doors, and leave aboot park benches, cafes, (and of course the uni grounds…et al) 🙂

Silverytay

O/T
Hope it’s safe to go o/t

Bloody Hell Kendo , I have just been posting music from you tube to my F.B page and your wings advert pops up , absolutely brilliant , well done

Clootie

X_Sticks says:
13 August, 2014 at 9:43 pm
Is anyone arranging print copies for Aberdeen or Aberdeenshire?

Flashed through the thread but couldn’t see anything.

I would like to get some for our area but I haven’t done anything yet.

Rock

Papadox,

“I herd a rumour that SLAB, Glasgow City council and Aberdeen Council are making plans to move to Engerland in the event of a YES vote.”

SLAB is just English Labour’s North Britain branch that will be closed down after independence.

Glasgow has already been moved to Engerland by the BBC, so it is natural the elected councillors follow.

heedtracker

@ Thepnr, yours too!

Lesley-Anne

Clootie says:

X_Sticks says:
13 August, 2014 at 9:43 pm
Is anyone arranging print copies for Aberdeen or Aberdeenshire?

Flashed through the thread but couldn’t see anything.

I would like to get some for our area but I haven’t done anything yet.

Guys Colin put up this post earlier today, but I don’t know if it is any good to you though. 😉

Colin says:at 4:21 pm
I’ll email you Stuart but I need at least 2,500 to cover my little forgotten part of the North East. I can also drop off to other distributors if you want.

X_Sticks

Best if we all coordinate Clootie – I could take 500, and probably more once I phone around. You could talk to Brian up there to see if he would want any.

ronnie anderson

Diddy Dave sending Tornado,s to Iraq but not to fire on ISIS, sending in Chinooks to rescue poeple of the mountains, I think it would be more appropriat to mitigate the threat of ISIS before you rescue people, but who am I to offer military advice,YER WEEKS TO LATE FOR FUCKS SAKE.Westminster hud a committee meeting an DIDDY DAVE wiz on Holiday.

caz-m

David S Briggs

Are you a TROLL?

There’s something not quite right with you, a bit sneeky.

I don’t see you on here much, you were the one who pulled me last week for calling Ponsonby a bias bastard.

You seem to like jumping to the defence of our friends down at Pacific Quay.

Are you Glen Campbell working undercover?

Rolf

To people wondering how to get the WBB and other info to undecideds: find out by joining your local Yes group (search on the events section at the Yes website) and go out canvassing. It’s dead easy and you’ll get shown the ropes by an experienced canvasser. You’ll have lots of conversations with people who’ve yet to make up their mind, ample opportunity to hand out or even just quote from the WBB.

twenty14

O/T – from the Guardian and Sev Carrell – ” Second Scottish independence debate to be screened live across UK by BBC

Alistair Darling and Alex Salmond will go head to head on 25 August, as 700,000 postal votes are sent out for the referendum ”

700,000 postal votes – this worries me

Colin

@X_Sticks says:

I’ve asked Stuart for 2500 for the Portlethen area, but I could get more and supply you. Where abouts are you?

ronnie anderson

@Gerry Parker could you get some for Satnite I,ve already asked the Rev.

X_Sticks

Thanks Lesley-Anne (was that you getting into trouble earlier? Tsk!)

Colin, which little part of the NE was that 2.5k for? Would make sense to get all Aberdeen and Shire in one load, no?

Calgacus MacAndrews

@ronnie anderson says:
Am contacting Tommy Sheridan Jakie Birds no getting a lend of his tanning machine again

I think Jackie borrowed the machine off the “Oompa Loompas for Indy”.

link to i.imgur.com

X_Sticks

crossed posts lol

CameronB Brodie

Calgacus MacAndrews
I’ll hud ma wheesht. 🙂

X_Sticks

Not far, Banchory-Devenick

Lesley-Anne

You are not alone twenty14 in your concerns over postal voting. There are more than a few individuals on here who share your concerns. Not only the 700,000 postal votes but the 20% EXTRA ballot papers that each Returning Officer is required, by the Electoral Commission, to hold for this referendum. 20% in most people’s eyes seems an extraordinary HIGH number of *ahem* spare voting slips.

Let’s face it when we go into the voting booth it is not going to be rocket science making that choice, after all it will be YES or NO for gawd’s sake! How difficult can it be to decide YES or NO?

kendomacaroonbar

@Silvertay

🙂 I had to pay for that.

So far over 7,000 views and a few hundred redirects to the WoS site. If that translates into YES votes then it will be money well spent.

muttley79

@Thepnr

The link is here. I am not replying to the person again, there is no point. You can post something if you want though, do not be too aggressive as it will get deleted:

link to theguardian.com

Colin

2 minutes away, I fly my plane there and screech past your door on my motorbike 😉

ronnie anderson

@ Twenty 14 where did you get the 700,000 postal votes from.

Lesley-Anne

Glad to help X_Sticks and yes it was I still haven’t got a clue why though. 😛

Still it appears I’ve now been de-moderated so everything is hunky dorey now. 😀

RogueCoder

Evening folks,

A duplex booklet version of the PDF is en-route and will be with you shortly 🙂

Graeme Doig

I would suggest that any sniff of irregularity in this vote will lead to a bit of a stooshie.
If they’re stupid enough to try it i have a feeling they’ll regret it.

Defo

MC
“We will, as you would expect us to have, contingency plans for various possibilities, possibilities that could relate, and I’ll broaden this to issues that Alex Brummer [of the Daily Mail] raised earlier globally: issues in financial markets, issues such as could be related to Scotland, so we have contingency plans we develop. It’s never a good idea to talk about contingency plans in public, other than to assure people that we have contingency plans and I just underscore in terms of our responsibilities for financial stability we do have a wide range of tools and plans.”

“as you would expect..”

And the genii who run the Treasury are too arrogant to do the same. Or lying.
Or they’ve been told to be slipshod/ lie.
Never asked to produce reports on one of the major issues that holds serious financial implication’s for a rUK ?
Stanes.

BTW Have you seen the moola the Whitehall old boys are awarded ? To stop a flight to Business obvs.
Serious Bonus payments, for those who hold senior positions.

As for the other Flight, why bother, when you’ll only have to move on after the Tories win in 2015.
Imagine selling a Brexit threatened pound to the market.
The Sponsors certainly won’t like it.

Devereux

@K1 says ‘Devereux, happy to co ordinate with anyone in the west end’

There are 4 of us here involved with Yes Kelvin and 1 who goes out with Women For Indy. Radical Indy have a weekly stall in Partick too. How is it best for us all to get in touch?

Bob Sinclair

The wee blue book is absolute dynamite, and couldn’t have arrived at a better time seeing as Shawlands is going to be granted an audience with the magnificint Jim Murphy.

Don’t tell anyone but I think he’s going to have a well informed and curious welcoming party.

Indy_Scot

700,000 dodgy postal votes, that’s going to be hard to over come.

X_Sticks

@Colin / Clootie any other WoSsers in NE

I’ll come back with firm numbers by tomorrow night, if anyone else wanting could do the same and take it from there regarding delivery etc.

Garry

Don’t know if there is any cost involved but can you make it available on Amazon for free downloading.

You could then spend some cash promoting it to people using the site to buy other stuff.

twenty14

@ Ronnie A – in the Guardian Ronnie under ” Second Scottish independence debate to be screened live across UK by BBC ” by our friend Severin Carrell. Is this part of the master plan to distribute over 700,000 postal votes then just add what’s necessary to get a No vote

Indy_Scot

I can feel a Glenrothes coming on.

muttley79

I just watched the Jackie Bird-Salmond interview and thought it was fine (honestly). I have seem a lot of interviews which have been far more confrontational. I have to admit I thought it was a good interview.

Calgacus MacAndrews

@Bob Sinclair says:
The wee blue book is absolute dynamite.
Don’t tell anyone but I think he’s going to have a well informed and curious welcoming party.

Printed in A4, this link to i.imgur.com would be just the job for photobombing.

Bob Sinclair

700,000 postal votes? That equates to about 20% of the electorate if I’m not mistaken.

Some very big, very serious questions need to be asked VERY loudly. I will not have my country being stolen from me by fraud.

muttley79

@Indy Scot

There will be a fair proportion of the 700,000 who will vote Yes.

Sinky

Typical BBC National News coverage at 10 news when they did not point out that after Independence we will be keeping the pound.
When Brit Nats ask about Plan B we can quote Mark Carney ” It’s never a good idea to talk about contingency plans in public.”

twenty14

700,000 – we’re being pissed on and told its raining

heedtracker

Google postal vote numbers in last GE with 15% so 20% high but within reasonable range? oh christ.

link to democraticaudit.com

As many as 15% of registered voters were issued with one in the 2010 general election.

Lesley-Anne