Wings Over Scotland

Yes! Cultural AND political imperialism.

I haven’t watched the paper review for quite a while but it was the utter irrelevance to my political experience that eventually made me lose interest. I didn’t so much turn off in anger as drift away out of boredom.

It is undoubtedly a Londoncentric right wing chortle over the ashes of democracy. I would imagine Corbyn is the main target these days.

It’s as simple as ABC*.

*The Anglicise Broadcasting Corporation.

starved of the oxygen of publicity kind of like Northern Ireland in the past only without the voiceover therefore no publicity at all

Pish journalists reviewing the words of other pish journalists.

More incest than interest.

The actual problem here is that these programmes of English content with English guests discussing England are networked and shown outside England! What should be happening is Scotland should be getting relevant programming.

We don’t want or need a side show like BBC Scotland, what we need is BBC One, Two, News etc to have their news and current affairs ALL replaced by Scottish output.

Networking popular drama, entertainment etc, is one thing, forcing Scots to endure irrelevant London information programming needs sorted out. Realistically, it would be until independence.

The right-left balance aspect is another issue, but that SHOULD be a problem for England to sort out by itself, for itself.

Had to rewind and re watch last nights Sky Papers review!!

Sunday Mirror Political Editor, Nigel Nelson, agreeing that Scots have a point about Indyref2.

“and i do have some sympathy with their position, as brexit wasnt on table last time”

then spoke about how damaging brexit will be, as it would..

“damage Scotland quite seriously so have every right to say, conditions have changed and we would like another referendum”

……….

A tiny drip in the ocean, which is so noticeable by it’s difference to the usual narrative ignoring Scotland completely.

Shows just how accurately the figures in this Article depict reality when such a tiny sentence or two, stands out so boldly.

SNP threatened to go to Ofcom over the lack of representation during June, and at best, July has been just as bad.

BBC are not even trying to hide their bias anymore.

Not sure they ever did, frankly, but it seems more obvious now.

If it happens outside the London commuter zone it never really happened. Only London news is important.
Even ‘culture’ is the same. All the guff about the London singer Stormzy. Who he? None of the young folk I know are fans, but he is big in London so that is all that matters.

I’m quite happy that they ignorantly chatter amongst themselves. I get quite suspicious when a Scotland based story appears on the home page of the BBC website news. This has started to happen on the odd day lately and I wonder what they are up to.

As more and more Scots wake with a start and realise they are listening to the endless drone of another country, they may decide that it’s just too boring to stay in the union.

In 2014

Forgot link:
link to en.kiosko.net

Manx Radio do a newspaper headlines review after Midnight, all English papers however occasionally they mention the Hootsman, I emailed them telling them that the Hootsman is not representative of the people of Scotland and mentioned the National. For a while they occasionally mentioned the National, but have slipped back to the Hootsman again.
Time for another Email i think.

like watching a snake eating its own tail

Sarah says:

Yes will win next time – it would just be a more pleasant experience if we had a balanced media!

With a balanced media we would have won in 2014.

There’s a twist to all this, though. The media is SO unbalanced it is being perceived as an afront and an outrage by more and more people. IMO it has reached the point of being counter productive (from a BritNat perspective).

“more pleasant experience” …. won’t it be great if the process of disengaging from the Union was handled with courtesy, honesty, and good will? I know, I dream. Perfidious Albion isn’t going to change for us. But, it doesn’t need to be quit so devious and underhand!

Malky says:

It’s just them practising the principle of EGEC – English Guests for English Consumption

I agree. And I think that’s fine. Except, of course, it’s used for Scottish consumption too.

So what is this really all about? Why is it happening?

Obviously there are different explanations… most of the UK is England so it’s a simple one size fits all approach, or, it’s driven by the believe that England is the UK, or, it’s a conspiracy to stop Scots thinking they’re different.

Cock up or conspiracy? A bit of both where the cock up conveniently hides evidence of conspiracy.

@Bob Costello says: 7 July, 2019 at 11:44 am:

… All of which leaves the question. Why are the SNP not doing anything about this?”

And there it is, I’m surprised it took so long but there it is – SNP BAAAADDDD! It’s all the SNP’s fault – What is Nicola Sturgeon going to do about it? Are the SNP getting too comfortable in office?

Do these people imagine we Scots for independence zip up the back?

Minor complaint Stu… your use of the term ‘national BBC’ to mean, presumably, the BBC that broadcasts to the whole of the UK.

I’m not really a flag-waving, tub-thumping ‘nationalist’, but my nation is Scotland, and only Scotland. So the term ‘national’, to me, means encompassing the whole of Scotland – not the collection of nations that is the UK.

If Nicola Sturgeon does anything more than speak or use normal political channels she could end up where the President of Catalonia is

I don’t believe for one second that the UK government wouldn’t contemplate charging the SNP and it’s leader with something, anything if they thought they could get away with it, and the Len McCluskey party wouldn’t be abstaining on that one either

Some folk need to remove from their minds that there’s some kind of democracy going on in this Union

There’s some serious stuff going on at the top that we don’t get telt about, if they can *get* the FM they will

Those with good memories may remember me getting a bit of stick a long time ago when I commented that we only needed to keep allowing them enough rope and eventually they would hang themselves and that goes also for the MSM, the Broadcasters and the Conservative, Labour and LibDem parties.

The lot of them are now standing on the gallows trapdoor and they are intent upon selecting a new leader of the Tory party who will have his hand on the trapdoor lever.

Bbc is now on full war footing with both leaders stating no indy ref 2

And a bit more.

Report reveals biased BBC has “high dependency” on the Conservatives for statistics

A study by Cardiff University’s School of Journalism, Media and Cultural Studies has revealed that the BBC has a “high dependency” on the Conservative Party for statistics. The study was used by the BBC Trust to conduct a report called ‘Making Sense of Statistics’, and confirmed that the Tories are responsible for three-quarters of the statistics that the BBC receives from political sources.

The BBC Trust report brings the impartiality of the BBC into question, and states that the corporation should not be so content with reporting statistics “straight from a press release”. It also concluded that the BBC has failed to “go beyond the headlines”….

link to evolvepolitics.com

Sarah says:
7 July, 2019 at 12:06 pm
@Bob Costello: did you not realise that broadcasting powers are Westminster’s? The Smith Commission votes by Labour, Conservative and LibDems were against Scotland getting the right to have the power over its own airwaves.

The SNP are protesting to the BBC. Have you some ideas about what else they can do? It is a subject that worries me and has done for years because you are right…

Yes, I did. I suggested right after the Brexit result that Scotland should host one European Summit after another here in Scotland, inviting European movers and shakers and their attendant Press Corps to Scotland, with a media hub in Edinburgh or Glasgow producing all sorts of sound bites and footage which would find its way onto social media. I even suggested a Festival of Journalism.

By now, we’d have had three years of pro-EU, pro-Scotland, pro-fessional news journalism, but most importantly, an alternative source of mainstream Press information that was totally independent of the BritNat mainstream propaganda. With prudent liaison, we might even have encouraged foreign broadcasters to sponsor a formal network of Scottish correspondents… the “go to” place for Scottish news.

Furthermore, rather than pussyfoot around with futile complaints about the dysfunctional UK State Broadcaster to the dysfunctional UK State Regulator, the Scottish Government should have gone for the BBC’s jugular, and citing the BBC’s dismal performance, created a post to function as Scottish Regulator monitoring broadcasting performance, (a post which might be extended to cover every other “reserved” portfolio; Broadcasting, Constitution, etc), which would monitor the performance of UK reserved government and build a case against it wherever it was creating disadvantage for Scotland, with a view to declaring any shortcoming due cause for Scotland to take back control of the issue.

Yes, Westminster devolves power to Holyrood, but only after Scotland first “devolves” administrative power to Westminster. If they abuse that power, the sovereign people of Scotland can elect to remove it from their control.

I also argued way back in 2014 after YES defeat that a snap Plebiscite should have been called to hold the Unionists to their commitment for more Powers to Scotland. Rather than allowing them to wriggle off the hook, a Plebiscite might have allowed the people of Scotland to choose those powers. I think The Establishment would have had a very difficult time obstructing the return of powers demanded by Democratic Plebiscite, and Scotland could have paved the way for Scottish Broadcasting back in 2014/15.

Nobody listened then, and I fully expect they won’t listen now. It’s what the SNP does best.

Calum McKay says:

free in 2014 and we would be looking on at brexit the same way as the Irish are, with 27 firm allies

28 🙂

Because there would probably have been 29 members, inc Scotland.

The contrast between the influence Ireland has been able to exercise, the fact that the UK has had to do what it’s told, and sadly Scotland is totally ignored, could be greater. We could have just like Ireland – a full member, with powerful allies.

Here’s a question, though. If Scotland had departed in say 2015/16, would rUK have opted for rBrexit? Probably not because their economy would have taken a big hit and they wouldn’t be in the mood for more disruption. Also, their self esteem, sense of exceptionalism, assumed entitlement would also have taken a knock. Brought down to earth, one way and another.

“We should probably be a tad more angry than we actually are y’know”

Dr Jim, I couldn’t agree more. The problem is that how do we let people know we’re angry if you have the mainstream media so biased against our arguments?

SNP Plan ‘B’

link to archive.is

Incestuous media types rule the airwaves. Boycott.

Hey Rev, don’t know if it’s a typo or if your calculator has a touch of Jackie-Baillie-itis, but shouldn’t it be 58 reviewers and not 59?

@ Donald Mackenzie

By non violent civil disobedience.

Remember last year MSM and Tory farmers were up in arms about SG not paying farmers on time,well why have we not seen anything about this from them.

SNP Government beats EU farmer benefit payments target: Ruthless Tory gentlemen farmers celebrate

All credit for TALKING-UP SCOTLAND Prof John Robertson for this.

Ian mhor ;3-17

The media may be trying to bury what is happening in Scotland, and may very well be successfully doing so in England and Wales. However the people that count are the people of Scotland and every body in Ayr knows what took place there yesterday, and how it was not reported by the media, this applies to the people of Oban, Galashiels and everywhere these marches take place The Media are proving themselves unfit for purpose to the people of Scotland every time these events take place.

“It is agreed that nothing in this report prevents Scotland becoming an Independent country in the future should the people of Scotland so choose”

The Smith Commission..
Paragraph 18
27 November 2014

The UK Guv keep sayin NO but they already said YES and agreed to it and signed it

Let’s bear something else in mind neither Boris Johnson or Jeremy Hunt is Prime Minister, both are just MPs begging their own party to elect them to that position, if and when either of them are elected the question of constitutional change in the UK becomes a real question (at the moment it’s hypothetical so they can say what they like, it holds no legal relevance) they will have to answer whereas at the moment both of these men are electioneering for the benefit of their own party members

I could stand in the middle of the street and yell none shall pass until the law comes along and proves me wrong

The First Minister in one of her statements to the media on this question said “This position will *prove* to be unsustainable”

The only way the UK government can deny a section 30 order of transfer of power to form an agreement is for the UK to state that Scotland is NOT a country but a territory of the UK which is also not legally a country but a Union of countries to which Scotland is the other half, so the legal position becomes undeniable as the UKs own Advocate General himself has admitted

Nicola Sturgeons statement of *prove to be unsustainable* is thus correct

Both these *candidates* are at this moment just bumping their gums or flapping their lips, whichever phrase you fancy using

If this goes to court the UK will lose, but I don’t believe it will get that far, they’ll grant the order and scream caveats and threats and doom and disaster but they’ll do it just the same then mount their campaign of calamity and hope to win or at least kick it as far away into the distance as they can with the follow up negotiations, but the SNP won’t let them and that’s when I believe you’ll see the S in SNP standing for Samurai

The UK is a doomed enterprise, a dead parrot, met it’s maker, gone to the great Imperialist heaven in the Sky, and they know it

Doesn’t mean they won’t bare their teeth first though

It is not just the unprofessional imbalance of these London bubble crony shows, they set the terms, tone and topics of the political discourse across the British media.

P.S.
British nationalism and self-ID are made for each other.

Oh dearie me from the Daily Heil on Sunday, quote Nigel Farage has called for Britain’s ambassador to the US to be sacked after it was claimed he had described Donald Trump’s White House as ‘uniquely dysfunctional’ and ‘inept’. Leaked memos obtained by the Mail on Sunday detail Sir Kim Darroch’s assessments of the Trump administration from 2017 to the present. The publication of the comments is likely to spark a fresh diplomatic row between London and Washington and risks causing the government and the Foreign Office major embarrassment. The emergence of the remarks come just weeks after the UK rolled out the red carpet for Mr Trump during his state visit at the start of June.. unquote
Think they can kiss goodby to that trade deal now 🙂 according to the radio news I heard a “British” Government spokesperson said that the memo did not necessary reflect the views of the British Government, not much of a slapdown that is it 🙂

A succinct definition of what is going on here.
link to reference.com
Hawaii here we come….NOT!

Had fun day out at Ayr yesterday.

Firstly got off Edinburgh train at Glasgow Queen street to walk to central station………right at same time as OO march…my husband and I had to walk to central station and this involved having to cross road ….not allowed unless they stop and someone ushers you across the road.

So we walked and walked and eventually they stopped and one of their ushers gestured for us to cross road.. got to Ayr and went on march had a really good day….then left got train from Ayr to Central station.

When got off train at central station a guy was getting on train started to shout at an old guy on platform who was carrying Scotland flag …he shouted ” There’ll no be f**king independence in my lifetime you old B”.

Then we got on train at Queen street to Edinburgh…sat down and two guys sat opposite us….one young and one old…turned out they had both been in Glasgow for OO march…older guy apparently had come all the way up from Newcastle for it and had left his mates in Glasgow….when we got off the train I said to my husband….that felt like we were sitting on a train opposite two SS officers and I was frightened they would find out who we were and what we supported….that is what it is like in Scotland….where you feel intimidated and have to hide supporting your own country’s independence for fear for your own personal safety…..that is NOT right but it is what the Scottish Tories seem to find acceptable because they know these people will lend their vote to them to maintain the Union Jack as a symbol of English and religious oppression towards Scotland and Catholics.

My husband said you cannot reason with these people and the Newcastle guy’s arms were covered in tattoos and he had had a few drinks….I think the younger guy knew what we were as my husband told him we had been in Ayr….but he seemed the more reasonable and laid back of the two….and he didn’t ask us why we were in Ayr…my husband said if he had he would have told him…..not sure that would have been wise.We had to listen to them both the whole journey…though young guy got off at Linlithgow…was very very uncomfortable for me…the tension brought on a killer of a headache which eased only when got off train at Edinburgh.

This is what rabid Unionism coupled with rabid religious intolerance has infested our country with…where one feels oppressed and has to hide what you believe in just in case one is spat on or physically assaulted ..brought it home to me big style.

Could not wait to get back to Edinburgh and the train journey was shit end to a wonderful day…..perhaps Adam T and Murdo of the WATP tribe could explain to me why I should feel like an outsider in my own country and why I should have to hide what I believe in…..they must know the tribal politics they promote will ultimately be their downfall as the argument is too reliant on bias, bigotry and negativity….think Scotland is moving on from that ….how many yesterday at OO march were Scottish…how many were English…Irish….I think we would be shocked by the numbers of non Scots attending that Glasgow march….or probably not.

In fairness to the two guys in question…. nothing happened but it was the knowledge that should we have been exposed as Indy supporters we could have been in a precarious position and that in itself made it a tense journey for me….for what ?….for wanting what should be seen as something normal… especially but not exclusive to what is being presented as a very much English driven Brexit .

Sorry for O/T long post but it did spoil what was a warm , friendly and uplifting day….such a downer to end it on….went to WOS stall but was too afraid to speak to anyone…sure I saw Ronnie A sitting on chair at front of stall but maybe wrong…introduced myself once to him in Edinburgh…he probably cannot remember….maybe next time I will have courage to speak to someone !

Tatu3 says:

Scottish Parliament has to pass necessary legislation to enable a consultative referendum (like what Brexit was) otherwise the result would be challenged in Court or a Unionist Presiding Officer saying it is not competent.

Re The BBC

In recent weeks we have had the withdrawal of the universal free Over 75’s TV Licence followed by last week’s release of the obscene salaries paid to performers most of whom are in Sport and Light Entertainment.

The latter raises the question of just why is a State Broadcaster involving itself in Light Entertainment and spending countless millions on Sport and compelling us to pay through the nose for it whether or not we want to watch it.

The Tories having privatised everything else previously state owned but desperately hang on to The BBC and it is pretty obvious that the reason is its value as a propaganda tool.

I cannot see why a state broadcaster should not only have responsibility solely for News and Current Affairs with perhaps Documentaries as an add-on.

Just think of the millions possibly billions which the government could raise from the sell-off of the rest including the archive.

The US manages to do without a domestic state owned broadcaster except for the propaganda outlets like Voice Of America and Radio Free Europe which are for foreign consumption.

I am not in possession of the facts about the situation in the rest of The EU regarding state owned broadcasters but would be interested if somebody could produce of a list of which countries have one and what areas of content they cover i.e. do they include Light Entertainment and Sport.

How many other countries have a compulsory licence?

@Tatu3

Sept 2020 is probably the latest date for Indyref2.

Nicola always qualifies statements about timescale by saying “it can be accelerated “.

A lot of scenarios are possible in the next six months – a general election with heaven knows what outcome, an attempt at ‘no deal’ Brexit which may or may not pass, and even an EURef2 or cancellation. We do need some clarity IMO.

Then there’s the Section 30 thingy – go without or (as has appeared) turn the next election into a de facto IndyRef2.

Gus 1940 to save Auld Bob the bother , the TV licence is not a licence to fund or watch the BBC ,its a licence to allow reception of Live TV Signals whether they be Terrestial, Satellite ,Internet or BBC Catchup.

Clapper57
– that was the best post for days; I could feel your crawling unease, and its not acceptable anymore.

Abuse of power is never so obvious than when it’s shoved in your face, by would be PM’s, promising to spend billions more than was ever saved by austerity. And then admitting that ‘perhaps austerity had gone too far’.

We live in a very sick country.

Programs not pograms – Spelling, not a Freudian slip. Or was it?

@clapper 57 – appreciated your story about fear of the OO and its potential for violence
Compare and contrast any AUOB march with “having to cross road ….not allowed unless they stop and someone ushers you across the road”.

This was followed by your worries about getting yourself and husband out of a threatening situation in one piece with no harm done to either of you.

This what the OO stands for – intimidation and oppression of free thought and speech

“rabid Unionism coupled with rabid religious intolerance has infested our country with…where one feels oppressed and has to hide what you believe in just in case one is spat on or physically assaulted”.

Never let anyone forget they are a pseudo-military organisation which enjoys the support of all Westminster Governments (There’s even a Westminster Orange Lodge) and so they can get away with whatever they do.

link to eurofree3.wordpress.com

You probably know this from your own sources (but not the State broadcaster), Scotland. But, just in case – and for you to see how Cymru is reporting developments.

(Translation as always: WS + Google Translate)

“SNP preparing for second Scottish independence referendum”
7 July 2019 at 14:09 Updated at 14:11

Gaining a majority in Holyrood or increasing their presence at Westminster could be enough for the SNP to proceed with plans for a second independence referendum, according to leading party members.

It is believed that the party could push for a vote by 2020, and Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland’s first minister has already said that she favours holding a new vote in the second half of next year.

Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt, both of whom are battling to become the next prime minister in the UK, have already said they are opposed to a second referendum.

Proposal

But the SNP intends to put forward a motion for debate at the party’s winter conference in October.

It is calling for a second referendum by the autumn of 2020 and if the British Government were opposed to it, they could go on and demand that they have a mandate to start negotiations.

“The people of Scotland have been consistently overlooked by the UK Government,” said Christopher McEleny, leader of Inverclyde Council, one of the two proposers of the motion.

“We want to hold a referendum to give people the choice between becoming a normal independent country or remaining part of a UK that still forces policies and governments on Scotland that we reject.”

But the Conservatives in Scotland still insist that “there is no support among Scots for another independence referendum”.

Source: link to golwg360.cymru

Mac
I’ve made the same error/Freudian slip, when referring to the full-English Brexit as similar to Stalinist totalitarianism. 🙂

Scotland should have ‘days of rage’ against this bondage, this political and cultural bondage.
The union with England had all the faux trappings of legality but we know it was a ‘scam’ enabling England to effectively annex Scotland.
Illusions, delusions about partnership are unilateral and cause a wry smile among the English establishment. We should wipe that smile from its face.

Days of rage.

Are you feeling ok abuhacker. To much sun and vino I do worry about you.

@ Confused & Ben Madigan

Thanks for reading my over long post and empathising how I felt in this situation….was worried that someone might comment that my husband should have done or said something or that I was being a bit over indulgent in relating my experience on here……my husband is older than me and he has high blood pressure so I am glad he didn’t but I was almost passing out at the thought that potentially he might and was worried more for him than myself….though I was quite scared….trust me my husband felt a wee bit intimidated too and was really worried about me being present in case something did kick off…the fact that they also swore non stop in my presence , without apologising, was also very intimidating.

I say again this bigotry , intimidating behaviour and hatred is not normal and should never ever be condoned and accepted as normal .

And what for ? To pathetically uphold a flawed outdated and twisted psyche that infests these haters of all who are not ‘one of them’… and therefore all others, who do not concur with them, they must be the enemy…what a warped and depressing view to have in a life so short and soon they will learn…a life wasted.

No decent person anywhere in any country should have to tolerate this wretched stain that sucks out the decency and humanity we should, in Scotland, be striving to attain for those who live here …. and I am so very sad that this terrible situation exists in mine and it is embraced by certain politicians who should know better but obviously do not…..power, money and status does indeed corrupt and allows many a Unionist politician to turn a blind eye to that which is so blatantly and obviously wrong…..not that they care or even pretend to try to change things for the better for those of us who have to suffer the shame of this scourge within our country.

Hence my support for wanting a better life and hopefully a better society in an independent Scotland that is more open, accepting and tolerant to the people who choose to make it their home than the (non) Union I am currently being forced to live in against both my will and a majority of other people who live in Scotland.

Now IS the time to vote for independence ( was before as well but ….it has taken some people longer to realise….thank God they now have).

Hope you both have a nice evening

Wow! Just wow!
Mr Peffers you do not know me. How very dare you!

“What is more you are perfectly aware of all this. Most of us, having read your other comments, have a fair idea of where you are coming from.”

You have absolutely NO idea where I’m coming from. You really just can’t answer a question or make a comment without being rude and nasty.

Others answered my genuine question politely, don’t know why you couldn’t. Very soon it’ll be just yourself on here repeating all you think you know ad infinitum.

@gus1940 says: 7 July, 2019 at 5:42 pm:
” … Re The BBC
In recent weeks we have had the withdrawal of the universal free Over 75’s TV Licence followed by last week’s release of the obscene salaries paid to performers most of whom are in Sport and Light Entertainment.”

Now I’m only working on memory here, gus1940, but if memory serves well, it is a a stipulation on every broadcasters licence to transmit in the UK that they carry the BBC stations and also must carry newscasts, weather reports and public service broadcasts. So just why does Westminster also require to fund the BBC with a grant of the taxpayer’s money?

Bear in mind that the BBC collects the licence fees but turns them mover to the treasury and the BBC gets an annual grant.

Of course you wouldn’t know that and will find it hard to get the information but the fact is the BBC gets an agreed annual grant and thus doesn’t get to keep what it collects in licence fee money. It is the BBC’s most successful propaganda that the licence fee pays for programmes. It doesn’t it goes into the treasury’s general taxation fund. There is a name for that general taxation fund but it slips my mind what it is called at the moment.

So there you are – even satellite TV broadcasters have to broadcast news, weather and public service information or they do not get a broadcasting licence. Furthermore the are compelled to also carry Freeview Radio Stations as well.

Tatu3 @ 20:18,

Oh, welcome to the large and increasing club of people who are totally unknown to Peffers but who have troubled his increasingly-paranoid mind merely for having an original thought or two. You haven’t arrived on here until you’ve been nitpicked to (everyone’s) boredom by him.

£5Billion spent on the BBC. £3.7Billion raised in TV licence revenues. People do not watch most of the rubbish. Taxpayers subsidies. Some of it spent on building estate. Empire building. Controlled by Westminster PM and Westminster Press Office. Like most of the UK MSM. Tax evading Non Doms who should not control the Press. Totally biased. Without a free and fair Press there is no democracy. Westminster are supposed to ensure a free and fair Press. They do not.

Good evening Mr Peffers. Informative comments. Keeping well and up to date. Current affairs.

The Tories will be gone soon. Someone else will have to sort out their mess. A complete and utter shambles. Chaos. What a bunch of Westminster unionist imbeciles. A world laughing stock. No wonder no one believes the BBC directed by these total and utter incompetents.

Dr Jim says:
7 July, 2019 at 8:24 pm

The media will always under report the marches or not report them at all so if there are to be marches at all we must have one so large that it’s uncontainable while still peaceful

Whether they report them or not, that they are being held all over Scotland with large turnouts means that a lot of people will be aware of them – and that they are peaceful, joyful events – so not reporting them properly may be counter productive and besides don’t stop many people being aware of them.

The Tories are spending £Billions in HS2, Hinkley Point and Trident. A total waste of money. Brexit a total waste of money.

I have re-blogged the Rev’s post and added a few questions that readers/viewers/listeners should ask themselves to become more alert to what’s going on on the media world.

I realise I am preaching to the converted here as many posters already instinctively understand what’s happening or have, as they say “woken up” by whatever means.

Nevertheless I hope you will find it useful when talking to No voting family, friends and neighbours about Independence for our country. Try and get them asking questions about their own views and thinking over they answers they give to themselves

link to eurofree3.wordpress.com

@Robert Peffers,

`There is a name for that general taxation fund but it slips my mind what it is called at the moment.`

would it be the `Consolidated Fund`

link to tinyurl.com

there is also `hypothecated taxes` which are taxes ring fenced for specific purposes.

link to tinyurl.com

which some seem to think applies to the broadcast tax,

which is collected by the private company Capita on behalf of the BBC who in turn give it to the UK Gov who then give it back to the BBC after giving Capita £100,000,000

Capita have the contract for 15 years and should make over £1.5 billion.

Something to ponder… Was it last week, or the week before, that Gordon brown was writing in the daily mail?

And this weekend, we have David mundell writing in the guardian.

What’s going on, folks, this is nuts!

The BBC doesn’t review papers from rUK so its always only an English slant that is expressed. But of course you only have to switch on the tv and everything is English, the women`s world cup coverage for instance which was almost completely an English affair.
As an example as to the extent the BBC has virtually eradicated program`s from Scotland on national television, a 1967 Birmingham copy of the radio times had four programs made in Scotland with Scottish content networked across the UK. They were Dr Finlay`s Casebook, The White Heather Club, Hootnanny, (Mucic and song), and a Glasgow private detective drama with Roddy MacMillan.

@Mac says:7 July, 2019 at 6:10 pm:

… then admitting that ‘perhaps austerity had gone too far’.
We live in a very sick country.”

Are you kidding, Mac?

There never was any austerity except for taking from the poorest and giving to the richest and that was what it was designed to do and it was not started by the Tories but by Labour who first changed direct taxation to indirect taxation.

Indirect taxation is well known to transfer the main burden of taxation onto the poor instead of the rich.

Now the very first thing the Conservative government did was to increase the rate of VAT, and other indirect taxes (all indirect taxation), and also to cut the higher rates of tax which had the effect of transferring the increased indirect tax gained from the poorest to the richest.

Statistics prove that in this so called, “We are all in it together”, austerity the richest have more than doubled their personal wealth. You cannot be in austerity measures while more than doubling your personal wealth.

It is that simple, Westminster simple used the tax system to take from the poor and give to the rich and in doing so they have killed off God alone knows how many thousands of vulnerable people.

– this is a good read – the US sets up a rigged game, forces you to play it, ensures you lose, then walks away with all you have – and your leaders are in cahoots with it all

link to unz.com

now having read that, or enough of it to get the jist – think what kind of “free trade deal” the tories will get on behalf of the UK, post brexit, with the US

– boris and his backers, the UK elite will loot and stripmine this country to such an extent that the first bout of thatcherism will seem benign

– they are selling this like the rise of a neo-empire. but its more like – we are all working on the plantation, southern style

– the english are too stupid to “get it” before it hits them – there is NO WAY for THEM to “win” via any free trade deal, so we need to cut the rope, soon

Sectarianism is all about dominating access to political power and economic resources. It has been the British state’s weapon of choice for dividing Scotland’s working class, since the Union of the Crowns. Sectarianism and colonial imperialism can not be separated from racism.

Apparently Donalda MacKinnon -Head Honcho at BBC Scotland -was conferred with am honorary doctorate OF Letters at Glasgow Caledonian University “for services to media in Scotland”
Someone must be thinking she is doing alright!

Confused says:

the UK elite will loot and stripmine this country to such an extent that the first bout of thatcherism will seem benign

Which is exactly what Brexit has always been about. The only style of Brexit the hard right have ever wanted, is one which delivers this to them.

There are two types of people around – those who realise that, and those who don’t!

9,000 knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers converge on Glasgow – half of them dressed up to look like a cross between a US High School marching band and the Boy’s Brigade, with a plague of New Avenger ‘Steed’ lookalikes thrown in for good measure. Eight of them spend the afternoon in bracelets, and the news outlets can’t get enough.

13,000 peaceful protesters walk through Ayr without a single attendee getting so much as a parking ticket and, The National excepted, ‘tumbleweed’…

The MSM in Scotland is a product of the British Establishment and the BritNat Brainwashing Channel (BBC) is at the top of the dung heap.

@Tatu3 says: 7 July, 2019 at 8:18 pm:

” … Mr Peffers you do not know me. How very dare you!”

Oh! How hilarious! I don’t know you so how dare I run you down but you don’t know the FM and those you run down but that, in your opinion, is quite all right?

You come here on Wings and you cast aspersions at the First Minister of Scotland and the entire SNP – do you know her or them? So how dare you.

” … You have absolutely NO idea where I’m coming from. You really just can’t answer a question or make a comment without being rude and nasty.”

I’m neither being rude or nasty but I am telling the truth. You get on your high horse because you dare to be rude and nasty and run down the First Minister and the elected SNP MSPs and MPs that you do not know yet complain when someone gets at you for being nasty to the First Minister and politicians who I presume you do not know.

” … Others answered my genuine question politely, don’t know why you couldn’t.”

I already explained to you why. Your questions are far from being genuine. They are deliberately designed to be derogatory to the FM/SG and SNP, and before you go off in to yet another not so genuine rant, consider this, if you denigrate the FM/SG and SNP then you are also casting aspersions upon the electorate that elected them.

” … Very soon it’ll be just yourself on here repeating all you think you know ad infinitum.”

Strange that, Tatu3, considering that the Wings readership is going from strength to strength but by your, no doubt genuine, opinion it should be melting away just because of little old me.

I very much doubt that I carry such influence and I would hazard a guess that if I can detect in your comments to date a definite anti-FM/SG/SNP bias, and therefore an anti-independence theme, then I won’t be alone in detecting such a bias.

If it is any consolation to you I would point out to you that you are not alone in posting anti-independence comments and you are thus not alone in being highlighted for doing so.

You really do have a brass neck to get castigated for commenting about the FM and SNP who I’m sure you don’t know then telling me that I’m rude for doing so to you and telling me I don’t know you.

This is an open forum and if it is all right for you to run down the FM and other politicians you do not know then it is obviously also all right for others to run down you.

robertknight at 10:35 pm

On Friday The Herald online had an article about the March due to take place in Ayr on Friday with details of the times, route etc.

Today’s Herald also had a photo on the front page and a report online yesterday if I remember correctly.

@Dr Jim says:

7 July, 2019 at 9:38 pm

Did you know that if it wasn’t for the fact that Englands womens team lost they would have been the best team

Englysplained sporty news

They should send information like this into space so the Martians will know to definitely invade
…….

Thanks for that, i laughed out loud at that and spluttered a pretty decent Malt whisky over my top and phone !!

Brilliant tho…

We keep hearing Phil Neville, Lucy Bronze & Co say that England didn’t go to the World Cup Toulouse. We knew that. They were mostly in Nice and Lyon I believe.

@Sinky says: 7 July, 2019 at 8:33 pm:

” … The SNP are on course to hold a consultative referendum.
Declaring UDI won’t win independence as it will unleash OO violence supported by UK troops.”

Whoa! Sinky, it is not possible for the legally sovereign people of Scotland to declare UDI.

If you are sovereign then your word is law and you cannot make a unilateral declaration of independence under Scots law.

Secondly the United Kingdom is exactly what its title describes it as – a two partner union of equally sovereign kingdoms. It is not a country much less a unified country.

The United Kingdom was constituted by the Treaty of Union and has only the signatures of the two kingdoms that agreed to it on the treaty. Recently several Westminster Government Ministers have stated in the Westminster debating chamber that in international treaties any signatory to the treaty can withdraw from the treaty if they want to and they need no one’s permission to do so. The Treaty of Union 1706/7 is an international treaty.

Now here’s the only snag – legally it is the people, not either the crown or the parliament who are sovereign. Thus neither the crown nor the parliament are sovereign but both need a direct mandate to use the people’s legal sovereignty.

Which is where indyref2 comes into play. Neither the SG or the SNP have yet got a direct mandate to end the union and that mandate is what a YES vote in a referendum is. Nicola Sturgeon does not have the legal authority to dissolve the union without a mandate from the people to do so. However, there is another point. Westminster has already conceded, “The Scottish Claim of Right”, in both the parliament and in the Westminster Supreme Court and the Scottish Claim of Right is the right to end the union.

So there it is – we need to have a direct mandate to exercise, “The Scottish Claim of Right”, and there are three ways to get that mandate.

An election to the House of Commons that states in the SNP manifesto for that election that if the SNP get a majority of Scottish MPs they end the union and come home. An election to Holyrood that states if there is a Holyrood parliament majority of MSPs for ending the union then the union is over or an independence referendum that directly asks the people of Scotland if they wish Scotland to return to independence and the least controversial of the three is an independence referendum.

However, a unilateral declaration of independence could only happen if the SNP, without a direct mandate, declare independence.

More simply put if the SNP, as a political party without a mandate from the people, declared independence then that would be illegal. You can bet your boots that will be the claim made by the unionists whatever the truth is.

You can already see this with their claims there is no apatite for independence and their other claim that there is no call by the people for indyref2. Not to mention the media silence about hundreds of thousands marching for indiyref2 under the AUOB banner.

UDI = not possible

UDI = not possible

UDI = not possible

UDI = not possible

UDI = not possible

Not possible for Scotland. Just how many times does it have to be explained.

link to express.co.uk

I take it the so called journalist has been sacked ?

Robert J. Sutherland says: 7 July, 2019 at 8:35 pm

” … Oh, welcome to the large and increasing club of people who are totally unknown to Peffers but who have troubled his increasingly-paranoid mind merely for having an original thought or two. You haven’t arrived on here until you’ve been nitpicked to (everyone’s) boredom by him.”

You lot are really hilarious, You are all unknown to me but you all seem to think you know me. Then your, “original thoughts”, are so original that you all share the same thoughts. Not only that but you all express the same opinion that it is all right for you all to propound the same group of, (cough!), “original”, thoughts.

Every one so original they all state exactly the same claims that each and every one of you assumes to be better informed than the FM/SG and SNP and their advisors. Now how very original is that?

Finally you are all very ready to run down the FM/SG/The Scottish contingent to Westminster and the EU but, Oh! Dear! how dare anyone be in the slightest critical of you. Good grief this last numptie makes big play of me not knowing him/her but seems to have no problem whatsoever in knowing all about me – and you think I’m the paranoid one? laughable.

Get real! It was the FM/SG and SNP that got us here to the very brink of independence it sure as hell wasn’t numpties like you lot you are ultra critical of what they have done to get us this far.

Your claimed, “Original Thought”, Robert J. Sutherland, are shared by the roughly 50% of the population of Scotland that are also against the SNP and a great deal more in the rest of the UK who also are anti-FM/SG and SNP.

You don’t win converts to independence by running down the very people who have done most to get us this far on the road to independence. If you really are as much better at it that they are why are you not in the party and getting yourselves selected as councillors, MSPs, MPs or MEPs.

After all you keep telling us all that you all know better than the people we selected and voted for. If you are all that good why are you not in the party, selected and voted into either an elected position or chosen by the members to run as candidates?

I’ll tell you why – it’s very, very easy to stand on the side-lines and tell the players on the pitch you could do better than the players can but it is quite a different story pulling the jersey over your head and actually playing the game at the top level. Oh! And its so easy to tell the ref on the pitch he is blind but another matter getting onto the pitch, knowing the rules, and making the decisions.

Oh! And I’m not at all sure that everyone is bored at seeing anti-FM/SG/SNP getting a taste of their own criticism. It is, after all much more easy to be a critic than to do the actual job.

mike cassidy says:
7 July, 2019 at 11:52 pm
For the Sunday evening delectation of those commenting on the OO.

Being brave?

Being suicidal?

And the punchline from the cop at the end.

Only in Scotland

link to twitter.com

Police out of order but so is the guy in the car. Sad to see folk complaining about police swearing but seem to think it’s ok for them to be offensive. Even sadder to see all the Irish tricolours and in one a black beret.

Scotland can do without OO and Unionism as well as the Irish republicism.

The Saltire for me. This is Scotland.

The Tories have a majority of 3 ? There are 20 Tories against Brexit. If Johnston calls a GE Parliament has to agree. The Condem illegally introduced fixed term parliaments. The Tories will lose. Johnston would not last pass October. The Tories could call a GE to lose to get them out of their mess. That is what the unionists do. An international disgrace.

Johnston offered the SNP full fiscal powers. An S30 could come out of it. Or a court order. Or just forge ahead. The SNP Conference is in October. The SNP have to stand ready to fight a GE. One battle at a time. It is better to win. The best time to have an Indy Ref is when it can be won.

May is gone. Another one down, another one gone, another one hits the dust. The Tories are an International disgrace. Thank goodness for the SNP Gov standing up for Scotland. Would not like to see the state of it otherwise. One step at a time. Until it is time. The SNP will not blow it. Vote SNP/SNP. Vote for Independence. Get one other person to vote as well. People know it makes sense. Vote to help the world. The charlatans at Westminster are trying to destroy it. The Tories will soon be gone. Can’t count or read a balance sheet. What a bunch of imbeciles.

Consultants in England are refusing to work overtime. The NHS England is in a state of collapse. Homicides in London have increased 200 a year. Police service at the state of collapse. Life expectancy has decreased. 120,000 earlier deaths. 17% more in England. The Brexit shambles. What a complete and utter mess. The Tory members, the majority male and over seventy, are voting for their own demise.

Ireland could unite and probably will demographically. After being illegally Partition by the Westminster Gov. Lloyd George a Liberal. Absolute centuries of horrific abuses. Ireland wanted Home Rule/Independence. Nearly achieved it. Instead got years of troubles caused by the Westminster unionist imbeciles. Still on going. Nearly seventy years later. At a high cost to the people. Universal Suffrage 1928.

Count the posts Ken500. It’s you with the verbal diarrhoea.