Wings Over Scotland

Looks like s ‘special’ needs class to me.

Nicola needs to have this example on her desk for next weeks Question time.

The media has so much to answer for – they are responsible for the worst cases of bias and misinformation ever seen. The ‘debates’ which were used for the promotion of the union, not asking about WM responsibilities but as a vehicle to criticise devolved issues. (This is what the people wanted to talk about – aye right).

Instead of informing viewers about reserved and devolved issues they were used to deliberately knock the Scottish govt and as a result RD and the tories were rarely if ever questioned about tory policies in WM. The cartoon sums up very nicely the BBC both for council and GE results more seats than before in council and largest number of seats at WM yet constantly we were told RD ‘won’ and snp were losing. I hope one day they will be held to account for their deliberate misinformation and downright lying.

They funny thing is they still wonder why viewing figures are going down and the press is dying – the sooner the better.

I hope that I won’t be accused of being distasteful but is it not obvious that if the tragic London Fire had occurred a week earlier the results of the GE would have been very different not just that Labour would have won or would have sufficient potential supporters to form a government but would have had a significant effect on the results for the Ruth Davidson Party in Scotland?

Teacher—right group,you are twelve sheep in a field and six of you jump over a fence. How many do we have left?

Pupils—-none sir.

Teacher— Now just like the sheep, you kids do not know your arithmatic.

Group– No sir you do not know your sheep. Where one goes we all go.

Rather apt I think.

Why teaching is such a hard job. You’re wrong Sir, BBC sez you are and you’re all the worst ever PISA teachers too.

Willie thinks the blocks are all out of proportion.

Brilliant! Hit, nail, head.

Surely the blocks are upside down? Or are the children the wrong way up? Is Cheshire Cat Davidson grin the right way up or is she really secretly scowling?

Good cartoon.

Ps May is in real trouble after the Fire. Does RUK give money to the DUP or remedial work across the UK and NI? If the latter they prove that austerity has killed be it through loss of hope through suicide and other means such as attacks on the disabled and the poorer in society.

BBC news

British lions tour — oops no Irish Lions anymore

England women’s rugby– champions – Fair doo’s

Nope no mention of Scotland V Australia

Ps we won.

galamcennalath says:
17 June, 2017 at 9:00 am
Great cartoon.

Dumbed down culture is what I blame and dumbed down for a reason, lots of reasons. BBC r4 Today show ended this morn with ferocious toryboy Nic Robinson thing on what its like being a fresh new and exciting MP in Westminster.

Toryboy Nic introduced LibDem ingenue Christine Jardine, thrilled, little shy but very excited, Westminster so well run and welcoming, but lovely intro for such a daunting yet great privilege task for such an eager to learn LibDem shiny and new newbie, like Cristine Jardine, with so much to take in and learn. You get a laptop and a locker, all ready, Its SO exciting and fresh!

Ofcourse toryboy Nic didn’t mention that all new, exciting, shiny LiBDem MP Christine Jardine’s CV…hard core BBC Scotland ligger for decades, UK gov special Scots media adviser, running through Scots indyref 2014, ran one of the dirtiest anti Alex Salmond campaigns ever seen in British politics 2015, in Gordon, losing badly. At the very least, new and shiny Christine finally got her new and shiny UKOK reward.

One simply cant get decent service these days, says The Guardian in Glesga, Same tory media hell bent on destroying Scotland’s fledgling democracy ofcourse produces stuff like this,

link to archive.is

“This is cooking from someone who spends too much time not eating in today’s restaurants but watching today’s food TV, where presentation is given outlandish prominence, because, well, visual medium. There’s no harmony, just a parroting of modish ingredients: pork belly, flabby from its water bath, comes with a wafer of puffed crackling, an overcooked, far from luscious cheek that looks like a poo emoji and is swamped by gluey brown sauce, a muddy mound of miso carrots and a blob of spring onion puree (one pal: “I like the mushy peas”). It’s wildly oversalted, medicinal with Chinese five spice and teased into the most tortured plate arrangement since my photo byline. The sauces on that monkfish dish are two thick, brownish smears. My brother laughs: “Looks like they’ve employed Bobby Sands.”

Bilson Eleven 10 Annfield Place, Dennistoun, Glasgow Food 4/10
Value for money 4/10
Atmosphere 4/10
Restaurants
Marina O’Loughlin on restaurants
Food & drink Glasgow

Friday 16 June 1917 14.00 BST

Classic, very well done.

Still on the subject of arithmetic.

A “Lad O Pairts” meets up with the posh couple walking on the hill and is asked if he can count. Aye he replies I kin dae that.
How many are here on the hill boy?
He replies “A hunner”.
Laughter. “How do you make that out?”
“Easy. I am One, you and your lady are the two Zeroes”

John Swinney accepts the challenge. Good luck with that one.

The Scottish Parliament ( SP) should vote that the SP and ScotGovt has the the power to decide Scotland’s place in the Single Market ( SM).

If won:

Another ScotP vote: the ScotGovt should hold a referendum asking the people of Scotland if they want the ScotP and ScotGovt to decide Scotland’s place in the SM or WM Govt?

A referendum Q: Should Scotland’s Govt and parliament have the power to decide if Scotland should stay in the European Single Market?

aye or no?

If no, drop indyref2. Accept UKGovt is negotiating on behalf of Scotland too.

If aye, then tell UK Govt, Scotland’s people have decided to give the ScotGovt and ScotP the democratic mandate to negotiate with UKGovt and EU on Scotland’s place in SM.

If UK Govt won’t recognise that, they are betraying their pledge that they recognise the right of self-determination and democracy for Scotland.

They would have no option but to recognise it or trigger a constitutional crisis: UK Govt denies Scotland democracy.

If Scottish democracy is denied then that’s the time the ScotGovt would have no option but to offer an Indyref2 or declare UDI.

If UK Govt back down and accept that mandate, Scotland’s people have asserted they have the democratic sovereignty or ultimate authority, not WM Govt, in matters affecting Scotland – even within the Union.

Nice one Chris.

The only way to get through to these dunderheids would be to belt the bastards.

Bring back the belt Nicola,please.

6 of the best for each of them!

BTW, who’s that teaching them? Norman Tebbit?
🙂

Yon Dominie haes a muckle teuch troke wi three dobbie fowk in his cless.

(Owersettin intil the Inglis, “That teacher has a very tough job with three dunces in his class”).

Mind you, it is a much smaller class size than the Scottish National Scottish average class size.

Gordoz says at 10.11am
“Who gives a toss about rich kids with odd shaped BA’s”

I’m sick and tired of rugby players being pigeon holed as “rich kids” who are all unionist voting selfish b******d’s.

I grew up in Edinburgh Gorgie ,not exactly the most elegant part of Edinburgh !

I attended Boroughmuir school where the policy at the time was to play either rugby or basketball ,this was in the 70’s, I played both and on leaving continued to play rugby till I was 40.

Now in my 60’s I am staunch pro Indy and SNP voter since the Thatcher years as are many of my ex rugby playing friends ,sure there are friends who are unionists but by no means a huge majority ,many are English,Irish who have settled here.

So Gordoz like the unionists you want to foster division ,well done you ,cause of course Scotland are crap at everything !

And of course well done Scotland in beating Australia in their own back yard and moving up to 4th in world rugby !

Aye, and when the bell goes, next lesson for the remedial class is Scottish History.

They are like the 3 stooges allways good for a laugh, but not to be taken seriously, as my father used to say to me when i was a boy, David do not insult my intelligence if i tried to fool him , these 3 insult my intelligence and they are supposed to be intelligent adults, these 3 stooges can not fool anyone, they will be moved along in time, then we will get their replacements, how about they bring back, rag, tag, and bobtail , at least those 3 could act lol

After 35 years of teaching, I finally came to the conclusion that ye really cannae make a silk purse oot o’ a sow’s ear. Good luck wi’ that class John! 🙂

PISA was the big stick which BBC Scotland used to beat the SNP with over alleged poor education standards in Scotland.

But in 2013 the Financial Times published a damning report on PISA tables citing it as fundamentally flawed.

Funny this never came up with Sarah Smith, Jackie Bird, Glenn Campbell in all their malicious glee at running down their own country’s education (i.e. their constant ‘SNP failing’ narrative).

link to tes.com

PISA take 5000 children from each country and give them a test. On this small sample they hang all their extrapolations on which countries are doing better than others.

So who chooses the 5000 pupils to be tested?

I smell a huge rat here. The SNP need to get up to speed on this asap.

More UK lessons in tory rule, red or blue. When your whole tory ethos is making the wealthy and the rich even richer, people are going to lose their lives. If you’re an old offshore oil worker, UK sector, you know exactly how it works UKOK style. You can argue that BBC led mass media lies at us on an industrial scale and has done since the 70’s, when Murdoch took over but holy fuck, look at it.

Web rumours? UK gov’s got a D list ban on actual causality numbers reported now.

link to metro.co.uk

“Another bad GE result for the SNP and independence really will be off the agenda for a generation.”

GEs are not about independence no matter how much the Yoonbats shout and scream and try to make it so. GEs will be about independence when the SNP make it so and ONLY when the SNP make it so.

Dinnae fash yersel.

Cuilean @11.19 am

Re- PISA education scores, you are right to point this out. But why no public explanation/critique/debate of PISA from either the Scottish Government or professional/academic educationalists in Scotland?

I posted a similar point here on 28 March, 2017, stating:

Much criticism (of the Scottish Government) has been based on the recent score achieved by Scotland in the OECD’s PISA (Programme of International Student Assessment) rankings – one international snap-shot. But you should know that PISA rankings are not universally regarded as valid or useful indicators – see this short international academic statement at link to archive.is

Written in 2014 by a notable array of international experts (see the list at the end of the article), it states in conclusion:

“We assume that OECD’s Pisa experts are motivated by a sincere desire to improve education. But we fail to understand how your organisation has become the global arbiter of the means and ends of education around the world. OECD’s narrow focus on standardised testing risks turning learning into drudgery and killing the joy of learning. As Pisa has led many governments into an international competition for higher test scores, OECD has assumed the power to shape education policy around the world, with no debate about the necessity or limitations of OECD’s goals. We are deeply concerned that measuring a great diversity of educational traditions and cultures using a single, narrow, biased yardstick could, in the end, do irreparable harm to our schools and our students.”

The Unionists, led by the Tories, are undoubtedly trying to kill off the Independence movement for good – and sooner rather than later.

It is imperative that the Scottish Government,the SNP and the grassroots Independence movement understand this, and respond accordingly.

Should they all continue with their personal holiday plans, at the same time, while thinking that September will be soon enough, then we will be terribly exposed and vulnerable to another major propaganda attack by the British government.

There is a very real danger that Independence could suffer further serious damage in the next few months. It is not in the nature of Perfidious Albion to allow us time to recover and regroup.

The ‘get Scotland’ strategy team at 10 Downing St will not be taking holidays anytime soon.

Good likeness of Swinney, Chris.

The right-wing are smart at counting money and knowing where to store it to avoid tax. And they have the money to pay the people who know how to facilitate the laundering. It’s quite a surprise they can’t count election results.

I’m on a short break but here’s

Your weekend reading:

A story foretold: link to wp.me
Wondererous Woman: link to wp.me

I know he has his detractors but I enjoyed listening to Robin McAlpine being interview by Derek Bateman on newsnet. There was quite a lot of emphasis on pollitcal framing. I think he makes a valid point about creating a vision of an independent Scotland rather than just saying ‘we want another referendum’. That’s where the YES movement can cover alot of ground.

If we create the vision, and people are attracted by it, if the only party willing to facilitate that are the SNP, then surely it wins back the voters?

@daodao.

Yku are yet another mealy mouthed, un-informed,forelock tugging, bowing and scraping sycophant.

There is ONLY one way to win or lose an indyref mandate.

A HOLYROOD election.

2012, Edinburgh Agreement was signed and a referendum delivered by the SNP when at WM we had 6 (SIX) MP’s.

Now we have 35 MP.

And those figures are BOTH Irrelevent to the indyref case.

The mandate was won in 2016, at Holyrood.

Get it ?

So Billy Connelly sucks up more to the BE with his wee knighthood. Jk Potter gets another gong.

Any knighthoods for mcternan and the rest of the sooner uppers.

If I were a member of Theresa May’s ‘destroy The SNP’ team, I would advise doing as much damage to the SNP /Scottish government as possible, BEFORE the EU Brexit talks began, or soon after, as the EU will favour Scotland.

We should expect more high intensity propaganda attacks from Westminster soon.

“There is a very real danger that Independence could suffer further serious damage in the next few months.”

New poll yesterday showed that in a 2nd snap general election SNP would take 41 seats in Scotland. The BritNat Establishment simply have to crush the SNP as Brexit negotiations get underway. They need to be able to broker an EU deal with Scotland’s resources on the table – which is why, for the BritNats, IndyRef2 simply MUST be off the table FIRST. You cannot bargain with something that, at the end of the day, might not be in you gift to deliver.

The BritNat Establishment is bricking it big time. Nicola has them right where she wants them. She won’t be taking IndyRef2 anywhere until she can see the whites of their eyes.

You don’t do other than brilliant Chris do you?

Perils before Swinney, love it.

Thought balloons left to right.

“Numbers are not my thirty, err or words for that matter.”
“Where’s a buffalo when you need one?”
“I want to take a gap year.”

if the two left hand bars were swapped it might convey a clearer message.

Proud cybernat at 238pm,

The BBC are right. Clearly Usain Bolt ‘lost‘ in 2016. 🙂

Hamish 100, at 115pm,

Ach, I don’t like the honours system either, but honestly, Billy is an old man, and he is very seriously ill, we should just gie him peace, to do what he wants. Who knows, he might just turn up at the palace in the buff, to have the last laugh.

Robert Louis 1.14

tRuthless has gone affy quiet…

I should think there are major nervous breakdowns happening in the Tory party this weekend.

Increasing calls for T May to go.
tRuthless not ready to take up the crown as ‘great and noble, competent leader’ because she has unfinished work here.
Brexit talks start in 36 hours.

Technically, as yet, no government in the UK as the DUP/tory deal not finalised.

Queens speech looming and just what do they leave out of their manifesto and what can they hope to achieve in this Parliament?

Everything on hold because they are having to try and organise something to sort out these pesky poor people in Kensington. (Breweries and urination come to mind)
‘Why can’t they just camp out in Hyde Park just now , it is summer after all?’

Distinct lack on anything approaching leadership – maybe it’s time the military took over -at least they can organise. Send for Colonel Davidson… oh,bother, I remember, she’s not available is she…

Oh what are we going to do?

What an unbelievable mess!
I truly pray that nothing else happens in the next few weeks or the whole sheebang will collapse.

When interviewed on BBC recently, EIS general secretary Larry Flanagan stated that the quality of education in Scotland was good. Don’t have link to piece but this needs to be quoted when yoons go on about education and SNP needs to be more robust on Pisa results and fact that worst performances plus most cuts in teacher numbers have occurred in Labour controlled councils.

“Get to France the lot of them.”

Isn’t ‘CH’ Switzerland?

I’ll get me coat on the way oot.

Remember folks, only plebs get OBEs or MBEs.

The folks that matter get:

Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire.

Robert Louis @ 14:42,

What a loser! =laugh=

Proud Cybernat @ 16:29,

Hold on, there’s still the Queen’s Speech to be got through first! And that alone seems to be taking its “strong and stable” “coalition of chaos” time to fix.

But if you think about it, that vote of confidence you mention could follow at any time of the opposition’s choosing. Including the SNP, note!

The opposition parties might well prefer to let the Tories guddle on into the Brexit mess a lot further and take the (rightful) blame.

There’s sure to be a lot of that goin’ around very soon!

Proud Cybernat @ 16:29,

Hold on. There’s still a Queens speech to be got through first. And that’s taking a fair old “strong and stable” “coalition of chaos” time to fix.

As for the “no confidence” motion you mention, it could be that all the opposition parties want to keep that one in readiness for a time of their own choosing. Which note: could be the SNP..

They might well prefer to hold off for a while and let the Tories get well well into the Brexit soup first. Let the blame rest where it is rightfully due.

And there sure will be a lot of that goin’ around very soon.

@manandboy says: 17 June, 2017 at 12:26 pm:

“The Unionists, led by the Tories, are undoubtedly trying to kill off the Independence movement for good – and sooner rather than later.
It is imperative that the Scottish Government,the SNP and the grassroots Independence movement understand this, and respond accordingly.”

Nah! manandboy, you’re off down the usual side-street as so many independence supporters always are. Where the side-street walkers get the idea that the SG, the SNP and the grassroots are the ones to blame is something the SNP, as a party won’t do anything about but to the more wise independence supporters the facts stick out like the proverbial, “sair thoum”.

If you keep up to date with events in Holyrood, The Scottish Local Councils and in particular at The Westminster de facto Parliament of the Country of England, you will soon become aware that the elected to office SNP members in those places have worked incredibly long and hard doing just what you are suggesting they should have been doing all along.

Unfortunately the Westminster controlled propaganda machinery, in all its many and much varied facets, not only suppress most of what these stalwarts have been doing for so many years, but they distort and bare-faced lie to the voters too. Not to mention the ever present, well rewarded, false news as spun by their fully declared as such, “Spin Doctors”. (and we all know who those Spin Doctors are). Yet why do actual independence and even many rank & file SNP Party members soak up the propaganda like so many thousands of little thirsty sponges?

This very cartoon, and much of the other stuff that the Rev Stu Campbell publishes on Wings, is constantly highlighting just how these lying, cheating reprobates of the media achieve the results they set out to distort. I’m also getting really sick & tired of being targeted here on Wings to the extent I am posting less frequently now. Just what is the point when most of it falls on ears that can hear but will not listen?

It is very disheartening for the elected to office members, and activists alike, to find a constant torrent of our own supporters castigating the SNP for, “Not upping their game”, instead of being aimed at castigating the perpetrators of the lies, spin and omissions.

This in particular in a comments thread that is headed by a really great Chris Cairns cartoon that is a very cutting, but accurate, example of the very thing that I’m commenting upon.

How bloody ironic is that?

I’ll put it even more bluntly for constantly harping on the truth seems to have abjectly failed. The SNP elected to office members are more than doing their fair share in Westminster, Holyrood and out Local Council Chambers. The fault that it is not being reported by the hostile media and is thus not getting through to the general voters lies very squarely upon we rank & file activists if we cannot see where the fault lied and we blame the SG & SNP.

To read the constant Drip! Drip! Drip! on Wings that, “The SNP” Needs to up it’s Game”, is a damn sight more disheartening than anything the unionist cabal can throw at the independence movement.

The cold hard truth is that it is the job of we, the rank & file independence movement, to translate the good, and constant, work of the elected to office members out to the general public.

Remember this old saying, “when you point an accusing finger at anyone, the other three fingers on that hand are pointing back at yourself and the thumb is pointed at Heaven”

Incidentally, here’s another wee factoid. How many Wingers fall into the many traps of the Westminster Propaganda machine such as using the term, “Britain”, instead of the correct term, “United Kingdom”?

How many when also meaning, “The United Kingdom”, say. “The Country”? Also consider this – how many Wingers have sat through a political meeting or a media presentation and NOT objected to a speaker misusing such incorrect terms?

You may consider these little things unimportant, and perhaps pedantic, but they are without doubt the very thin edge of the Westminster Establishment’s Propaganda War edge that has been waged upon Scots since long before there was a United Kingdom.

There you have it and I expect I’ll get the usual attackers here on Wings for my pains – it’s also another of the unionist’s tactics that have gone on since long before Robert Bruce was born.

This, from a twitter follower of Swawkbox, really feel this is directed primarily at the people of England as some references to Academies and David Lloyd etc aren’t applicable UK wide, nontheless worth sharing to relatives in England/Wales etc. I’ve rewritten it as it’s embedded as an image on swawkbox, this way people can copy and paste into email with the link to source.

First they came for the Unions and you said: well they are ruining the country. Then they came for the gays and you said: its best kept out of the schools. Then they came for the City and you said: the Big Bang will free us to spend. Then they came or the council houses and you said: property owning democracy. Then they came for telecoms and you said: it’s good to talk. Then they came for the mutual building societies and you said: £1000 in shares for nothing, bring it on! Then they came for the safety regs and you said: too much red tape for small businesses. Then they came for the railways, shipbuilding and steel and docklands and you said: sad, tired and out of date, time for a new direction. Then they came for the council houses again and you said: my mum bought hers, loadsa money and a new porch. Then they came for benefits and you said: bloody scroungers, sitting in all day with Tricia and huge TV’s. Then they came for the immigrants and you said: about bloody time Henry says. Then they came for Sure Start and you said: our kids had it proper tough. Then they came for councils and you said: live within your means. Then they came for libraries and you said: books are so last century. Then they came for the Arts Council and you said: who watches this crap anyway, give me Andrew Lloyd Webber any day. Then they came for sports centres and swimming pools and you said: we’re fine at the David Lloyds. Then they came for students and you said: about time they paid their way. Then they came for schools and you said: well our Academy is fine actually. Then they came for Primary schools and you said: it’s the parent ps who are the problem really. Then they came for council houses again and you said: nothing wrong with gwpetting the right people in. Then they came for bedrooms and you said: why do they need so much space? Then they came for disability and you said: everyone needs to try to work. Then they came for the NHS and you said: of course it’ll be free, it just has to move with the times. Then they came for the Police and you said: scaremongering. Then they came for the fire services and you said: same. Then Grenfell tower burned and you said: oh dear god! Those poor people. How could this happen?!

link to skwawkbox.org

Robert peffers great post 5.o5pm. As i have a couple of celtic/Scotland tops/vests in my case when i go on holiday,like now in llorett,(i know jammy b””””d).i feel so f””””ng embarrassed to wear a Scotland one. IN fact i feel like every c**t is laughing at me,especially here in catalunya who have an indy ref in October,which they are going to win by a country mile. Good job they have no f****g proudscotbuts living out here.

SNP….time to embrace the Scots Republic?

‘I’m also getting really sick & tired of being targeted here on Wings to the extent I am posting less frequently now. Just what is the point when most of it falls on ears that can hear but will not listen?’

Keep posting Robert, please. This is exactly what those attempting to shut down debate want. We badly need your input in these rapidly changing times, we can’t afford for very good commenters like yourself and YESGUY to bugger off just because of some negative input on Wings. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Wings has as we all know a quite massive readership and that’s great. And whilst yes it’s down to Rev and his helpers in terms of the article’s dismantling the very lies and proganda that you once again highlight that even Indy supporters are falling for.

A great part of the success of this site is the btl comments. Isn’t it interesting since the election last week the increased attacks on you and other regular contributors has become more obvious? More targeted, more vicious? It’s aim apart from silencing those being got at, is to decrease the readership of Wings as they get increasingly pissed off with the fighting below the line on this site.

I do believe and the Rev can correct me if I’m wrong, that he’s increased the rate of articles as a means of addressing this, a very long thread with hundreds of comments inundated with these undermining and personal attacks is difficult to stick with even for seasoned commenters, and most certainly would be offputing to any new comers to the site. Which exactly fits the M.O. of those attempting to quell debate by reducing the site to an internecine squabble between Indy supporters.

Thereby undermining Wings’s powerful voice itself. This is why ah would ask those especially who complain the most about the ‘trolling’ to step up and fight back when they see commenters being attacked for no good reason. We all know who and what I’m referring to and it seems too many won’t stand up for those who have brought so much insight and understanding to Wings over the last few years, when it comes to witnessing these same commenters being attacked over and over again by a handful of others on here who have taken it on themselves to tell us all who’s worthy and who’s not without a shred of evidence to support their claims.

The nastiness has to stop imo, its uncalled for, it’s personal and it’s deliberate. If everyone leaves, what’s left? Daily Mailesque/Scotsmanesque shitshow btl?

Very O/T but here’s what one commenter on the Spectator thinks of coverage in the media of the Grenfell tragedy.

“Yes, the residents and neighbours of Grenfell Towers are very angry with Theresa May

So now we have the satellite TV News Channels trying to make out that the anger and protests connected to the Grenfell Towers tragedy are more widely spread across the country than it is. That is because they have chosen to try to help the political left with their campaign to force Theresa May’s resignation and destabilise her minority Government – ALL for the sake of entertainment.”

Yet they wonder why we call them zoomers. Self awareness deficit I reckon.

link to archive.is

K1 @ 17:59,

I would like to second that. A big upsurge in new posters either regurgitating outmoded diversionary notions or contributing nothing except to directly attack other posters. All an obvious and cynical attempt to cause trouble and pollute the btl here.

Bob p, I would say more a testament to the power of right wing media in selling a lot of that narrative to a gullible and highly misinformed electorate, they have emphatically encouraged that aspect of human nature to the detriment of social cohesion. It has to correct itself and as I said in the post this is primarily directed to the people of England, and whilst I see your point regarding those of a more right wing leaning have indeed fallen for much of same in Scotland, the reality is at the core of our polity, we have chosen a different path. Testament to that we don’t vote for Tory governments in Scotland.

Also just to touch on recent aspects of the fire disaster, we have ensured our council/housing association buildings have applied the more strict criteria, with sprinklers and fire resistant cladding in place thus ensuring people can sleep safely in their homes at night. In short: we give a fuck about everyone in Scotland.

K1 6.22. Hope so,but with more scots? Voting tory . they don’t seem to have a heart,or give a monkey’s about Scotland.

Capella stickin up for Peffers.

It’s the same person talkin to himself.

Wise up Wingers

Chris, another GEM.
Only thing missing is the buttons up the back of their heads.

Thepnr says:

Left-wing satellite TV News Channels

My dish must be pointing in the wrong direction. I don’t get any of those. 🙂

The attainment gap

In Glasgow for a wee drink with some old pals. Is that the pies I here?

Nope around a 1000 OO parading down To George Square. Big WANs wee WANs banging their drums blowing their penny whistles.mRangers to a man and women judging by the latter a tattoo’s

Keeping the north proddy.

I suspect I won’t see most of them at church tomorrow. Being a Presbyterian I find the whole thing depressing.
On the other hand the Indy walk 2 weeks earlier was jokey happy bunch and outnumber the OO 10:1. Of course their fellow yooniists at the other other end of the attainment gap would never sully themselves to go a wee walk. They prefer others to do that.

@Lochside (7.55) –

Well said that Winger.

BBC Scotland tells lies and smears. As does STV and the mainstream British media when not simply hyperbolic and lazily thinking within the British establishment box and peddling its narrative.

So does BBC Scotland Tells Lies with the Freudian slip of a handle.

Carry on posting Mr Peffers et al who are attacked by the aforesaid for your insights are gold dust and ought to be collected and published in their own right.

The wannabe 77th Brigade of BritNat trolls who stick their oars in the btl comments here really ought to migrate back to the rabid Hootsmon, Glesca Keelie Steamie, and Daily Zeig Heil for their self-evidently masturbatory purposes, Judas coin of the British “realm” (?), and transparent attempts at divide and rule here.

I smell the stench of Trots and faux libertarian imperialist sockpuppets at work here hand in hand with the BritNat state. Toom Tabards for whom they are servile lackeys.

By all means dispute honestly, but do not do the dirty work of the fragile, collapsing British state on this free thinking site as do ALDO and GWC 2 on James Kelly’s blog where they seek to marr it and his rigorous analysis with red herring, smearing shyte .

In short, feck off.

Peffers you are a borin bastard of a Troll.

What are the qualifications for getting onto BSTL’s ‘list’?

I hear Boris is in the frame for having reduced the number of counsellors for the London Fire Brigade to 2.
Pity, I was hoping he would be next PM if TM resigns. That would finish off the Tory vote for “a generation”.

check out the last posts:

Sutherland
Capella
Heedy
yesindyref2

Trolls one and all.