Wings Over Scotland

Terrifying!

I do hope Hamish is being played by Liam Neeson in this cartoon and is ready to deploy his special skills to give John Bull a right fucking kicking.
Marvellous toon Chris.

Sturgeon MIGHT make a televised speech relating to sometime in the distant future.

Then again,,,if her record on speaking out about Scottish Independence is anything to go by,,,she MIGHT not.

Decisions decisions!!!

I think you’ve captured the power dynamic very well. You can take a well deserved holiday – aka staycation.

Nice one Chris.

Trying to tie these flimsy disposable aprons behind your back in a hurry is a pain in the arse right enough.

Wow Chris “deep”, but straight to the point. Classic.
Pretty sure wee Hamish is standing there sticking his tongue out whilst flicking the “tongs” at the “apron wearer”. (Both paws of course.)
Looks like the diddy squad are using another alias, same garbage different name.

Operations – BBC sinks even lower. Its top story today is about a man who died of cancer after an endoscopy was cancelled. Sad for the family but hardly news, let lone the most important news item in Scotland today.

Worse, they have opened this item up for comment. Trawling for “I hate the SNP” copy is truly abysmal.

link to bbc.co.uk

JB inspired by MBS.

The second pair of arms!

Or does John Bull have no trousers on?

Haha! A straw man argument, a large dollop if victim culture and a side order of race baiting! Absolutely guaranteed to galvanise the nut jobs!

Gary 45% Coal cellars are obsolete but thats the way NLC roll giving contracts to Mears for replacement doors & painting + painting fencing when the fencing needs replaced.

At first I thought that was a pair of Johnny Stark’s razors bull had in his hands.

Wee Hamish is just the right height to stick the heed in his whatsits but if he dithers to long……..

Good one Chris.

Who in here thinks Sturgeon will fold like a deck of cards on this one, as she did on remaining in the EU, and a second indyref?

I think the powers coming back from the EU will be a shoe-in for Westminster, and in the process Holyrood will have been Stormont-tised for good.

Capella,
Lister is obviously in my opinion only here to disrupt this thread. They bring nothing to the debate but that is entirely the point I believe.
To tar us on here with the same brush as Julia just has is disappointing to say the least.

RepublicofScotland,
Agreed, Westminster has had its own way on everything so far and there’s no reason to believe that the our powers being hijacked on their way from the EU will be any different.

Well done Chris, I noticed the faded butcher’s apron.

Thanks, Chris. Very apt.

I hope Hamish has his claws freshly sharpened and maybe a cudgel or two behind his back!

I thought Hamish the Lion had come for his operation to get Sturgeon’s dagger out of his back.

To paraphrase Julius Caesar: You anaw sleekit Sturgeon?

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I understand people are angry and frustrated. Rightly so. But, hurling personal insults like “dyke”, is no the way to handle things.

I don’t care what Sturgeon is in her personal life; it’s her politics that matters.

Breastplate says:
To tar us on here with the same brush as Julia just has is disappointing to say the least.

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you miss the point breastplate, yes, of course he’s a unionist troll, no question

but he is your unionist troll, it is the snp people he is targeting

Capella,
I agree with everything you say, however I can’t agree that leaving this site for good is anything other than detrimental. But on the whole people on here should moderate their language.

Capella@9.48
Thanks for posting Mike Russell’s schooling of Radio Shortbread’s star!!! prestenter.
We never have Radio Shortbread on at any time in the house, before 2014 it was on all day, now, never.

SC,
Just to be clear, he is targeting this site and using unwarranted attacks on the SNP to do it. He in no way whatsoever represents me or my views.

England will become the 51st State of America,,,and Scotland will be classed as a large City Region within that State.

Are you listening Sturgeon.

Move your fuckin arse.

Excellent sketch Chris.

SC,
I thought he was more likely to be somebody from SIU.

@ Gary45% – Mike russell is always very articulate and certainly not inclined to kowtow to anyone.
The Daily Mail also reports on the showdown brewing.

Brexit showdown: Sturgeon threatens to reject Boris Johnson’s new law in EU clash
WESTMINSTER and Holyrood are on track for the biggest constitutional showdown since the EU referendum as Nicola Sturgeon’s government have threatened to block a major post-Brexit law.

link to archive.fo

Bob Mack says:
18 July, 2020 at 10:41 am
@SC,
If you begin to insinuate anybody anti SNP is a Unionist then you are going up a blind alley
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except i’m not bob, folk are well justified in being hacked of with the snp.

i’m pointing out that the unionist trolls support this pov

What’s all this nonsense about this site being staunch SNP?

As far as I know of this site, it is an open forum, no matter what your political views are.

Otherwise it becomes an echo chamber.

If the SNP diehards think this is THEIR site, then you can stick the site right up Sturgeon’s hole.

I have my own ideas regarding Scottish Independence and would like the chance openly debate them on here.

And not be bullied by a few SNP heavies.

Why are the SNP heavies openly debating who is worthy of posting on here or not?

Surely this is down to the site owner to decide?

Not a chosen few.

A very old fashioned dictatorial way of behaving.

Almost verging in class warfare.

When a few decided how the many should think.

You can Fuck Right Off with that idea.

Sorry not AS, but SC

Yep, Boris is going to butcher the Scottish Parliament, and Brexit will be the perfect backcloth to let him do it.

Sold down the river by a Vichy SNP a let party is now absolutely essential. No wonder the SNP establishment fear it. But the SNP is not Sturgeon and her coterie of chums. It’s bigger than that and between the honest members in the party, and the others who will become the list party, the independence ‘ movement ‘ will become immeasurably stronger.

The SNP is electorally popular. Let’s keep it that way but add to it with an indy list party. Backed by that Wee Hamish will prevail.

@ Bob Mack – nobody could accuse this site of favouring comforting distortions over harsh opinion. I have no problem with people criticising anybody for their political actions. But slurs about sexual orientation, race, religion etc are out of order.

I’m beginning to wonder whether we should give the SNP any of our votes at all, with a former Tory spin doctor Andy Maciver, agreeing wholeheartedly with the SNP heirarchy that giving votes to other independence minded parties would damage the Yes movement.

It all sounds very much like Better Together, if you ask me.

@Scot Finlayson says:
18 July, 2020 at 9:55 am
“person that hit a ball with a bat is to be made a lifelong lawmaker and Lord of The Brutish Realm,
Lord Botham of The Ashes”

That is a little unfair. Politics aside, he’s raised a hell of a lot of money for charity, in particular leukaemia research.

“you really think that will help the independence campaign?

coffee wake smell up”

I think the SNP has no intentions of holding a second independence, is that helping the independence campaign as you say?

@ros

no, i dont think the snp will hold indyref2. they wont get a s30 so they cant.

but we are only 9 months from the holyrood election, sooner if it is brought forward before jan 1st,

that will be your last chance for independence via a democratic route

Correct me if I am wrong, but were the SNP not to disband the other side of INDY?

Were they not our temporary Party before List Parties were even thought of?

The SNP is not a religion,,,but there are a few clowns on here who would beg to differ.

You know who you are.

@SC,

I am fully awake. I know who the good guys are. I know who the troublemakers are.

I discern ,and discard or keep opinion as it suits.

I regret to say this, but there are occasions when people with concerns over current SNP poljcy, which are in my view genuine, become outsiders for having those concerns.

They become labelled as independence destroyers, fifth columnists,anti Jndy, 77th Brigade, and a host of other titles,too many to list.

Yet, currently other notable figures are expressing these same concerns in other forums. Should they now be labelled as one of the above.

Whilst the electorate are keeping the Indy pot boiling, the party supposedly spearheading that aim have gone on sabbatical. That is my view. Please don’t start me on the. hate crime issue. Lunacy.

Should people have no right to question these things?

@bob

of course you have the right to criticise the leadership of the indy movement

no question

but take eg,

Republicofscotland says:
I’m beginning to wonder whether we should give the SNP any of our votes at all,

or

Willie says:
Sold down the river by a Vichy SNP

neither of whom are unionist trolls

so while you have the right to criticise the leadership of the indy movement

i have the right to stop people undermining it

The only reason we have a chance at Indy is because we have the SNP in charge at Holyrood.
The British will use every tactic and asset at their disposal to make the SNP lose Holyrood.
By all means make arguments for voting for a new party with your list vote, but attacking the SNP is only doing the Brits job for them. There are obvious Brits on here encouraging and using genuine Indy folk to further their cause. People need to be more aware of what is going on.

Thr Scientific Method, for sale to the highest bidder.
link to unherd.com
Covid, nuclear fusion, climate variables, TED talks, experts, corruption, globalism….
Sturgeon is a TED talker. Edinburgh 2019.
This stuff used to be called fraud, deceit, cheating, lying.
Like Amazon and Trip Advisor reviews, check the sources, check the raw data and be very sceptical.

@Juteman,

If only we had your insight.

The cartoon, is excellent, and neatly sums up the abuse being done to Scotland, while the SNP witter on about an election sometime next year, and NS tweets this week’s favourite book.

One thing I spotted today, which is interesting is a Tory spin doctor quote in an article in The National. The article talks of the new pro indy list parties, and the quote in response to the idea from the former Tory spin doctor is quite extraordinary;

” ..“On the face of it, AFI is a clever concept, exploiting the SNP’s strength in constituencies, peeling off the wasted SNP regional votes, and scooping up a large proportion of the 56 regional seats,” he wrote.

But Maciver added: “A perceived manipulation of the voting system will give the UK Government an ‘out’; a muddying of waters as a result of blending different manifesto commitments will give the UK Government an ‘out’.””

Source: link to thenational.scot

So this is extremely interesting. It seems that the idea of using the second vote for indy, has really got the unionists rattled. What they are saying, is IF the SNP win a majority next year, then mibbes they might give a section 30, but IF Scots democratically decide to vote for a second indy party in the second vote, then London will say no. Look at the way he tantalisingly suggests that a section 30 ‘might’ happen, but then in the same quote cites the official line of just saying NO. Pure spin (AKA bullsh*t, to everyone else).

They really, really, are rattled, by us using our second vote. Interestingly, so are the SNP. GOOD. We want independence and to stay in the EU. That is what we voted for and the SNP need to deliver or we will find another political party who will. Time is running out. Tick tock, as they say.

Meanwhile, in the comments, can folk not see when they are being trolled? Stop feeding the trolls, it really isn’t difficult – a golden rule on all message boards. They want you to argue about something other than London’s abuse of Scotland, and sure enough, some on here, just jump into the troll trap, and start arguing. I see threads and threads of endless to and fro between folk and idiot trolls. It is pointless. When you engage with their nonsense, even to (as you imagine) ‘disprove’ what they say or ‘condemn’ them, then they have won, you have given them credibility and cause to continue. That is how it works. FFS.

Hmm.. Just thinking, that cartoon could easily be called, ‘The Butcher’s Apron’.

George doesn’t do debating.He likes cats.

link to twitter.com

Capella says:
18 July, 2020 at 11:10 am
@ Bob Mack – nobody could accuse this site of favouring comforting distortions over harsh opinion. I have no problem with people criticising anybody for their political actions. But slurs about sexual orientation, race, religion etc are out of order…

I agree 100%.

Such language has no place here. To pepper a conversation with such casual derogatory remarks is no different from a conversation about race that is peppered with the ‘n’ word.

Scotland’s fate might yet depend on Joanna Cherry fighting to a win a landmark Constitutional ruling in Court with one hand, while holding the Wokerati misogynists of the SNP by the throat with the other. How do think the illustrious Ms Cherry would feel seeing such poisonous prejudice still commonplace and routinely left unchallenged?

Some people need to go away and watch that movie about Alan Turing, The Imitation Game, where a man who’s intellect and truly original genius saved the lives of millions and shortened World War 2 but over 2 years and then laid the groundwork for modern computing, only for the man himself to be crushed, pilloried and personally destroyed by a clumsy and ignorant society darkened by bigotry because Alan Turing happened to be gay.

We think we’re better now, more tolerant, and “we’d” never drive such a brilliant man who deserved to be respected as a saint to take his own life by suicide. Judging by some remarks above, the same old bigotry and prejudice which would do just that, is alive and well, and just below the surface.

Breeks at 1245pm,

Totally agree. Those responsible should be banned, permanently.

Cancel culture, the inevitable outcome of good old PC, has seeped into everything, and everywhere.

Sticks and stones…

Challenge? Of course.

Banning?
Who’s decision?
It certainly won’t be up to yer average punter.

Last I knew, banning stuff was the core remit of Authoritarianism.

Five days ago Sturgeon tweeted to deride the Westminster power grabbing. Fine. But an effective leader has to keep on incessantly about such paramount matters. Has to inspire confidence in the rank and file. More important still, has to give out the right signals about political action to the wider populace.

Instead, in the five days since, our FM has preferred to tweet about being reunited with her hairdresser, tweet about her and Mr. Murrell’s 10th anniversary and tweet to recommend a new novel called Scabby Queen.

She’s either got no stamina for a real fight or perhaps just isn’t interested.

Another interesting account from a paramedic over what really happened in the NHS during the “crisis”.

link to twitter.com

Beware of politicians wearing masks.
link to m.washingtontimes.com
link to edition.cnn.com
Orwell, Huxley, Wells…truly beyond your most fevered dreams guys.
Fear not, for Bo & Nic & the Great Covid Mortality model are with us always…
LIBERTY: remember that?
1 : the quality or state of being free:
a : the power to do as one pleases
b : freedom from physical restraint
c : freedom from arbitrary or despotic control
d : the positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights and privileges
e : the power of choice

@Bipod

Im not active on the nitty gritty on this these days so thanks for sharing this stuff.

I keep up to date with industry news, particularly in the US and in Europe. The biggest corporations have been pushing certain key phrases and narratives such as the 4th Industrial Revolution and ‘The New Normal’.

This basically boils down to a cashless world, of zero health sovereignty, very limited privacy (if any privacy) with your location tracked and the people you interact with logged.

The world of big business was preparing for this before covid-19.

Im convinced this is more than an economic revolution – it is a social revolution that is being attempted to speed along, and control, humanities progress. To keep the herd in control.

Covid is the catalyst.

Given the way big business, many governments and international institutions are working together on this we can basically conclude that Covid-19 provides the 1st worldwide offensive of global facism/communism.

The fact that so many professionals are raising their voices in concern about the disproportionate response to covid, citing the way deaths are registered etc should serve as some evidence that there’s more to this than just a virus with a 0.3% death rate on people who develop symptoms.

The rainbows everywhere are symbolic – we are in a very large scale colour revolution.

kapelmeister @2:00pm

That’s because everybody is playing presidential politics and tweets about going to the hairdresser and such is how the focus groups and the special political advisors tell the leader how they can engage with the voters and ensure their popularity.

Everybody is doing it. Boris likes to be photographed “Getting things done” (trademark) though it’s likely he’s never done a real day’s work in his life. Vladimir Putin had the right idea though – at least he did presidential stuff like shooting tigers (with a tranquiliser dart as part of a conservation program). I would have also mentioned the tank driving but Ruth Davidson cottoned onto that I did not want to muddy the argument.

Anyways it’s probably the same presidential politics that keeps only one agenda on the boil at the same time. After all how are these special advisors going to be spending all that money if they are at work all day. It’s probably the reason we don’t hear much about independence, because “now is not the time”. That does not mean the issue won’t get moved to the front burner at some point, it’s just that it’s not so important as the pandemic right now at ensuring the increasing popularity of the leader and I guess all those advisors’ stipends.

So all the wailing and gnashing of teeth about “where’s the independence?” is missing the point. It’s won’t be front and centre until people want it. The solution to this is to push it onto peoples’ agenda and so it will then get onto the SNP’s agenda.

Fireproofjim@2.40
Best way to deal with it is, ignore. I fell into their “level” of debate! on a few occasions,resulted in minutes I will never get back and oxygen wasted.
There is no debate, one sided moronic abuse basically primary school banter from ill informed children.
Just Ignore.
Simples.

Stuart Mackay the only way to push Independence onto the ‘people’s agenda ‘ is to call a referendum. Who’s job is it to call for a referendum? Yours , mine or the ‘First Minister’?

Great cartoon Chris , I wonder if you could send copies to ALL SNP MP’S , MSP’S and NS to maybe remind them why they were elected and why Scotland needs out of this lunatic asylum immediately

And a piece of ADVICE for NS , THREATS WITHOUT ACTION re the power grab is just more EMPTY WORDS which we are sick of hearing

Good to see cartoonist Chris “Holiday Boy” Cairns is still employed.

Meanwhile in other news…

“Everybody spread out, see if you can find a fuck to give!”

link to twitter.com

He’s STILL about.

Just watch him go when he gets up to full speed.

Ignore the “One more Mandate” Brigade.

They are on here to push their support for Sturgeon.

No matter how disgusting Sturgeon’s policies are.

They have no principles.

They don’t care if the GRA Bill passes,,,as long as Sturgeon survives.

Bipod
In addition to your comments about recording deaths as due to Covid even although the person had it months ago and recovered, it seems that the Scottish and Welsh governments only record a death as Covid related if the death occurred within 28days of the person being tested positive which seems sensible.
As a consequence the figures in England appear much worse than in Scotland and Wales and I can see why Hancock has ordered a full investigation.
It also appears that in the US, whilst the numbers of cases are very high the treatment being given to patients is becoming increasingly successful, so much so that the number of deaths is surprisingly low.
The point here is that it is now no longer necessary to ruin our economy, especially here in Scotland, because of a disease that is increasingly under control and one that is being treated more and more successfully.
I keep coming back to the flu epidemic in the UK in 68/69 which killed 80000 in a smaller population but no ruination of the economy occurred.
I get the impression that Boris has realised that he has been conned by the Professors but is finding it increasingly difficult to change tack.Unfortunately,our FM has no understanding of the damage she is doing and appears even to be revelling in it.
What a weak nation we are.
Certainly not fit to be self governing.

second week in a row, in Scotland, where the weekly deaths are under the 5 year average.

I expect that trend to continue for weeks and probably months after COVID – nasty wee virus that it was – killed off a couple of thousand people who would’ve probably died this year anyway.

Meanwhile, lets all watch the slow agonising death of Scotlands 2020 tourist industry…….well, there’s always next year folks!

seems the COVID champions are either all unemployed, retired or work for the public sector who think they’re ‘safe’.

They’re not. The train is coming down the tracks and no one will be able to get out of the way. pensions pumped, benefits pumped, public sector budgets pumped (if you weren’t needed during COVID – you’re not fucking needed!) and when this furlough pish nonsense utter rubbish stops – 25% of all private sector jobs PUMPED.

Achieving Scotlands Independence may take more courage than we ever imagined.

Quiz time. Who said?

“England is an island. England is England and we should keep that”

Hint. He is about to enter Lords.

ahunredthidiot 5.24

… after COVID – nasty wee virus that it was – killed off a couple of thousand people who would’ve probably died this year anyway.

I’m sure it will be a great comfort to the families of the doctors and nurses and other frontline staff who died

Now that you’ve told them they were all going to die in 2020 anyway.

Meanwhile

In case people missed it.

Alex Salmond feud is like losing a loved one

link to archive.is

A ‘heartwarming’ tale from the increasingly trashy and clunky National website.
link to thenational.scot
Homophobes? …actually one guy who was not buying into the cosy rainbow schmaltz, his free choice.
The independence movement needs to ditch these parasitic, ’fellow travellers’ from the Greens and Momentum Labour.
Their huffy, narcissistic rainbow agenda’ has little to do with Scottish political independence, popular sovereignty, enlightened free thought or our national cultural renewal.
They are simply gobby wreckers.

Not that fat barsteward botham is it..????

Who said England is an island…etc,etc sh**e.????

Woke Capitalism Is Still Capitalism

link to archive.is

I particularly liked this.

In the United States, diversity training is worth $8 billion a year, according to Iris Bohnet, a public-policy professor at Harvard’s Kennedy School. And yet, after studying programs in both the U.S. and post-conflict countries such as Rwanda, she concluded, “sadly enough, I did not find a single study that found that diversity training in fact leads to more diversity

Beaker

Sorry for your loss, but my friend died ‘with’ covid…… pretty sure it was the massive stroke though.

I am guessing your friend had no underlying health condition?….and young?

Since you seem so sure they wouldnt have died this year.

We knew we were mortal – so get a grip.

Beaker

I also said ‘probably’

@ Dan: Well done for being a founding HOOPer. The point you make is spot on – and is why I keep mentioning a petition to Holyrood and “marching” on Holyrood. That is the forum for Scotland’s democracy, they are the ones who must put right what happened in the 1707 Parliament so we must get our message, nay instruction, delivered there.

@cirsium

Hud oan a feakin’ moment.
Is that not grounds to immediately end the Treaty of Union as no area in the UK should have an economic advantage over another!

Seems pretty legit to me, I jist cannae believe we’ve been chasing infinity mandates and a unicorn with a Section 30 pinned on its arse for all these years and missed this open goal…

When I hear the SNP are to fight the power grab on the devolution so called settlement, I hope that includes the disruption of the English UK parliament.
That’s what most Yessers want and expect.
Blackford needs to back up the angry man image with real action.
A spanner in the works of this fake union would fair light the blue touch paper for next May. Bring it on.

Chris Cairns is the sanest contributor to this site.

If we want to win the next referendum we need to show soft Nos and undecideds what Westminster’s Power Grab is all about and counter Unionist propaganda that Scotland’s Covid record is poor.

Early AUOB marches and naval gazing about GRA and multiple Indy List parties will only alienate undecideds

link to coronavirus.data.gov.uk

link to thenational.scot

link to thenational.scot

Opinium – Westminster VI
CON: 44% (-)
LAB: 36% (+4)
LDEM: 6% (-6)
SNP: 6% (+2)
GRN: 4% (+1)
PC: 1% (-)

Flavible Projection
CON: 337 (-28)
LAB: 227 (+24)
SNP: 58 (+10)
PC: 5 (+1)
LDEM: 4 (-7)
GRN: 1 (-)

*Changes with GE
17 Jul 2020
link to flavible.co.uk

lib dems tanking right across the uk.

not sure how that will pan out in the 4 libdem seats in scotland but it would be interesting to see some constituency polls to see how their vote is holding up.

they have been very very quiet, i think libdem members are coming round to the publics opinion that the libdems are a wasted vote

I appreciate gender equality is quite low in the hierarchy of cultural institutions, for some, but I’m afraid Scotland will be permanently entombed under British constitutionalism, and Scottish culture irreparably impaired as a consequence, if we allow these GRA amendments to proceed,

Revue interdisciplinaire d’études juridiques 2016/2 (Volume 77), pages 265 à 295

Constitutional Versus International Protection of Human Rights: Added Value or Redundancy? The Belgian Case, in the Light of the Advisory Practice of the Venice Commission
link to cairn.info

Would you admit to being a member of the SNP to anybody now???

That is how far down the political pecking order they have slipped.

All self inflicted.

The constitutional violence Westminster is prepared to allow to be inflicted on Scotland, is clear indication it has no interest in providing for the legal rights of those who live in Scotland.

International Review of Constitutionalism, Vol. 9, No. 2, pp. 307-328, 2009
International Human Rights Law and Constitutional Rights: In Favour of Synergy

Abstract
This paper is concerned with demonstrating the capacity of international human rights law and domestic constitutional law to have a synergistic relationship that is focused on the ways in which the two sets of standards can be harmonised rather than on questions of ‘superiority’ and ‘inferiority’.

Conceiving of the relationship between the two bodies of law in this way requires us to recognise their shared dignitary core and the optimal effect of international human rights law, namely effective rights-protection at the domestic level with international law playing a subsidiary role.

This paper uses the example of LGBT rights in European Convention on Human Rights jurisprudence to demonstrate such a synergistic relationship and argues that such a relationship is possible as between US constitutional law and international human rights law notwithstanding some prima facie barriers thereto.

Keywords:
Internationalisation, Constitutional Law, International Human Rights Law

link to papers.ssrn.com

the #twatinahat is counting his chickens

gg is standing on the list in the south region

@Craig Murray (11.08) –

‘Alex isn’t writing a book, though everyone seems to think so. I am not quite sure how that idea caught on.’

Perhaps it’s because if you google ‘Alex Salmond book’, five of the first seven results state that he is.

I don’t want to link to any of them, but they’re from the Herald, National, Telegraph, Times, and Scottish Sun respectively.

So drafting legislation that denies science is extremely unhelpful to Scotland’s fight for political and legal recognition.

TWAW is essentially the same as British nationalism, in terms of ideological outlook. Both positions consider humanity to be above nature, and insist that human will is more powerful than the forces of nature. This is a classical Tory position that supports chauvinistic and authoritarian paternalism. This hurts the poor and destroys the planet. Mkay!

International Journal of Politics, Culture, and Society volume 27, pages129–152(2014)

Introduction: Special Issue on “Gender, Sexuality and Political Economy”

Question

Who was involved in (a) Removing Alex from SNP history because he certainly was his contribution might have been restored I haven’t checked yet ,

And (b) Who was involved in preventing Alex from entering Holyrood because it came from the FMs office but anyone know who in that office ? .

Thanks in advance for any information .

Effigy @ 9.11
Absolutely agree…

I haven’t even been interested enough to go look and see if I could form a reasonable opinion…
Why would I?
It’s has not a thing to do with ending the Treaty of Union!

Minister’s, First,Prime, or of any other hue are only of interest to me for the job that they do….
What they do with other consenting adults is no one’s business but their own!

The only exception being if those drawing coin from the public purse, are having to make use of that coin to enable their activities…
Then of course there should be questions!!

Let’s look where the public monies go then,…
At all three of them in question..

Nicola,Andrew and Boris are people we can all compare and contrast,in, just how much we fund their activities and how we should respond.

Personally..
I have no real way of knowing,but..
I’d wager Andrew and Boris do not leave us tax payers out of their sexual congress and that we fund it one way or another.
On the other hand
Nicola it seems, needs neither our input or our finance to conduct a personal life,which as far as I can see is quite the proper way to behave.

So if I were promoting British Nationalism,especially on here,I’d stay the fuck away from pulling at that particular thread 🙂
Yer glass house is already lookin pretty shattered on that one!

National News bulletins back to England only news.

Can I suggest that folk seeking independence have a full proper read of this article by Pete A Bell. It is long, but needs read in full. He makes some very valid points.

link to peterabell.scot

Having been thinking of how to progress indy, in the face of an SNP leadership that seems more concerned with popular novellas and wedding pictures than the urgency of Scotland’s predicament, Pete’s piece makes a lot of sense.