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    1. Michael McCabe says:

      Hi Smallaxe it’s good to see you turning over a new leaf

    2. Thepnr says:

      I do like “duelling banjo’s” personal reasons from waaay back lol. Anyway just found another version that tickled my fancy.

    3. Tinto Chiel says:

      Not even that can cheer me up this morning, Thepnr.

      A song for WM:

    4. Tinto Chiel says:

      Haudadod! It’s a great day after all!

    5. yesindyref2 says:

      Well, incredible events and most of the rest of the UK just carries on up the swannee. Nurse! But yeah, IanB joining the SNP is a real stunner, hope he restarts SSP after a YES – not that I’m a supporter but I like the diversity, same as Tommy getting elected way back when, no matter what baggage he carried.

      So it makes it a bit difficult because I like being non-aligned, feel I can actually help Indy and the SNP better being outside, posting in alien media, and even in real life. As for the diversity though, that is a strength not a weakness of the Indy movement, and it seems to me we should fall out at times, as long as we get back together behind YES.

      So a song for all of us, longer version.

    6. Fred says:

      Nice to see claymores being extracted fae the thatch for sharpening all over the shop & congrats to Ian Brotherhood & Co for coming aboard!

      I would say that Mundell is mair o a wee toly than a wee shite! What does the panel think.

      A bit of Skerryvore to celebrate the days events wid be nice!

    7. Thepnr says:


      Yes, Ian B’s decision to join the SNP had me blinking a bit as well. I salute that decision because it showsthat “Independence First” is all that matters.

      I admire and respect ian B very much and it’s only through this site that I know of him. Like me he absolutely has the best interests of the Scottish people in mind and especially the poorest of us.

      Good on you Ian, you’ve got me seriously thinking about doing the same. It’s no more than supporting Scotland and I’m sure the SNP could find room for a few more left wingers with Scotland and her peoples interests at heart.

    8. William Wallace says:

      @ Nana 08:07 12/06

      Again, thank you. I have written to the SP for further information.

    9. Smallaxe says:


      “The Angry Fiddler” Skerryvore;

      Gon yersel!

    10. Thepnr says:

      @Tinto Chiel

      I guess you hugged a few stones at the weekend from your music choices 🙂

    11. Fred says:

      Mighty Fine Smallaxe! Skerryvore = Big Rock, gerrit kid?

    12. cearc says:

      Not sure what was most surprising. Ian B joining the SNP or Murray Foote coming out for Indy!

      A pretty good day all round what with the constitutional matter hitting the international press and it actually rained at last!

    13. William Wallace says:

      @ cearc

      It’s been a great day 🙂 Feel like we are finally fighting back. Aboot time the gloves came aff.

    14. William Wallace says:

      One of my favourite songs sang in Gaelic by the lovely Karen Matheson and an uplifting ending wi the pipes.

      I love Scotland. It is the most beautiful country in the world with the greatest people and an absolute wealth of talent.

      As an independent nation we can and we will shine a light across the shadows of this world and make it a brighter and better place. Peace.

    15. Fred says:

      Thanks Smallaxe, superb!

    16. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Thepnr: hee hee. Closest I got was a Viking hogsback gravestone at St Blane’s. Just as well ‘cos I hear yon Ronnie Wood has wandering hands.

      Welcome Ian B. I only joined on September 21 2014 but have voted that way since 1974 and I consider myself well to the Left *adjusts John Maclean silk lounging pyjamas*. “A braid kirk is appin tae aa” as my pipe-smoking granny (father’s side) used to say before downing her pint of Guinness for breakfast.

      Blackford’s stance has added to the membership already and is a big morale booster for the Bannockburn march. Hope there’s lots of Hands off our Parliament banners to ram home the message.

      Indyref’s started already.

    17. Tinto Chiel says:

      Spookily, this just arrived in my inbox:

    18. Smallaxe says:

      Fred, you’re welcome. See above^

    19. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Cheers chums,
      Sorry didn’t reply sooner, it’s been mental, eh?
      Next up, FMQs for some Ruth&Richard-skelping, then, hopefully, Mundell The Boneless stuttering out his resignation at 1-ish in the HOC.

    20. Marie Clark says:

      Well it’s been an interesting few days, eh! Not before time the gloves came off. Boy did that ruffle a few feathers. I was expecting FMQ to be a bit lively, but what did we get? Thon Labour nonentity on about hummingbird beaks. Whit!

      We are right into a constitutional crisis and that’s what we get, hummingbirds beaks. Nicola must resign now, or should it be Humza.Whit about the colonel and wee willie winkie, they seem tae be awfie quiet. Wonder why. SNP membership on the rise, former no voters saying it’s outrageous what is happening and will now vote yes. It’s a’ kickin off.

      Here’s a wee song that I would like to apply to Munnell, Secretary of State for naewhere.

      If only it was as easy as this Tinto and I would be right there at the front.

    21. Tinto Chiel says:

      Marie, I would don my famous white sneakers and black sox combo for that one.

      I have also found a conveyance for Peerie Mun’ell:

      Big Bad Dan was The Man.

    22. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Marie –

      First time I’ve seen ‘Dance For Freedom’.

      Wee tear in the eye…


    23. Smallaxe says:

      This put more than a tear in my eye;

      Dae ye ever wish ye’d never heard sumthin! Ye dae noo!

    24. Tinto Chiel says:

      I’ll raise you, mon vieux haricot:

    25. Tinto Chiel says:

      There’s always this:

      Like the words…..

    26. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Smallaxe (10.28) –


      Dexy’s Midnight Croakers

    27. Tinto Chiel says:

      Ian, didn’t Kevin Rowland eventually lose it all together and start performing in a dress and Doc Martens?

      My aversion to the union jackstika and associated roundels etc has subconsciously put me off mods but this is really rock so that’s ok, isn’t it?

    28. Smallaxe says:

      Hi guys,

      That Dexy’s song was howling, if I’d paid for a ticket for that you’d have to bail me out.

      John Fogarty: theme to “The Finder”;

    29. Tinto Chiel says:

      Swamp rock, ya bass.

    30. Smallaxe says:

      Hi Tinto,

      Did you get your fish from the monger?

      Yer gonnae need a bigger plate!

    31. Tinto Chiel says:

      Evening, Smallaxe.

      Got the last two lemon sole in the joint, actually. No greys this week.

      I was looking for a new cummerbund and some garterettes for the goat-nadgering season and stumbled across this on A____n:

      As they say, I saw this and thought of you…

    32. Smallaxe says:

      Evening, Tinto.

      Saw this…

      Guess who I thought of?

    33. Tinto Chiel says:

      I’ve been musing a while on your conundrum, old mole.

      It can’t be us, ‘cos we’ve both got hats. The blonde is a Laydee, and we’re not.

      You saying I’m a lutenist? At least it’s better than a morris dancer, I suppose.

    34. Smallaxe says:

      Stick to the lute, Tinto;

      That Morris dancing can be dangerous;

      Oot ther skulls oan scrumpy, sotheyur!

    35. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Smallaxe –

      🙂 🙂 🙂

      FFS man, where do you find this stuff?


    36. Fred says:

      Thanks Smallaxe, one night in the old Clutha the star turn was a team of Morris Dancers. With blacked up faces & swords they reminded one of a night in the Caravelle.

    37. winifred mccartney says:

      Can I use the great piece by smallaxe I believe:

      Scotland the Brave


      Scotland the slave

      I would like this on a t-shirt.

    38. Smallaxe says:


      You should have been in the Caravel when it was still the El Paso.

      winifred mccartney,

      Please use my words as you see fit, Winifred, I would be honoured.
      Thank you.

    39. Tinto Chiel says:

      Morning, Smallaxe.

      Your MD clip was a teaker, as we used to say in the punishment wing of my old school (the whole school, actually). Imagine a band of lute-playing morris dancers. They’d probs go down a bomb in post-Brexit England.

      Could make Mickie Most a fortune.

    40. Clapper57 says:

      Just signed ‘David Mundell must resign ‘ petition on ……. initiated by Ian Brotherhood. ( Partner signed it too ).

    41. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      From Twitter (Paula Rose)…

      “Graeme Turner
      16 minutes ago

      #GlasgowArtSchool Q. Does this photograph from last night suggest O2 was in fire before the Art School. The Academy roof is fully ablaze whilst the west and east ends of the Art School don’t look as if they are in fire! O2 Was apparently up for sale!”

    42. Macart says:

      @Tinto Chiel

      That’s what ah’m talkin’ about. 🙂

      Pele’s headed goal. Awesome.

    43. Tinto Chiel says:

      And Macart, re Iceland, my diddy team humbly submits:

    44. Tinto Chiel says:

      “Pele’s headed goal. Awesome.”

      Oh, yes and possibly the most powerful header ever from a man/salmon seemingly just hanging in the air, waiting for the ball to come to him.

      For all that, the effortless passing, overlapping and sheer power of the final shot for the fourth goal just summed up Brazil for me.

      *wipes away a silent tear*

    45. Macart says:

      @Tinto Chiel

      Heh! 🙂

      Y’know, my old dad gave me a special birthday gift a couple of years back. It was an old worn envelope and within it was his most cherished possession. It was a ticket to a football match.

      1967 England v Scotland

      Made a point of acquiring a DVD of the match to go with the ticket. Still can’t find paw in the crowd. 😀

      Proper football.

    46. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Macart: just can’t go on, my friend, with all those memories…..

      *Blubs like a big girlie*

    47. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Macart: just can’t go on, my friend, with all those memories…..

      *Blubs like a big girlie*

      Warning: this may be a double post and consequent hammers.

    48. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Smallaxe: can’t go on now, mon vieux haricot.


    49. Tinto Chiel says:

      Morning Smallaxe and other sophisticates:

      Feeling all hippy dippy this morning.

    50. Dave McEwan Hill says:

      The blue and the white of the flag shines bright

    51. Tinto Chiel says:

      Hope that Amy being such an ardent Yesser and Rangers fan will encourage more of them to cross the floor in the next referendum.

    52. Cactus says:

      Jings, crivvens, help ma boaby recap… what was that… that was a FUN night, last night. Somegoodbuddy kept feeding me drams of whisky.

      Well done Serbia.

    53. Cactus says:

      Here’s a quizzer:

      Q. Which fictional character flew into Cherry Tree Lane and which house number did she arrive at?

      It’s always everywhere.

      6 sleeps to go.

    54. Tinto Chiel says:

      Is it 17 and Ruth Davidson, Cactus?

      It’s been driving me mad…

    55. Smallaxe says:


      As Tinto has said #17 and Ruth Poppinson;

      Bonus Song;

      See you at Bannockburn.

    56. Smallaxe says:


      Driving you mad?

      How will we know the difference?

    57. Cactus says:

      Evening, aye ye were right the 1st time Tinto Chiel, let’s go fly a Britite, I do rather like Poppinson too smallaxe 🙂

      Here’s a question for a Scottish poll, to get em thinking:

      Q. “Should Scotland vote to return to being an independent country, which of the following parties would you vote for to form the first new government…”

      – Scottish National Party
      – Scottish Green Party
      – Scottish Liberal Democrats
      – Scottish Labour (abstentioning) Party
      – Undecided / don’t know
      – Other
      – Won’t vote
      – Scottish Conservative Party

      Paint a picture.

      (There was a fair bit of lovin’ last night on here, it mustve been all the FUN and excitement of the football or summin)

    58. Tinto Chiel says:

      Don’t know where you get them from, Smallaxe old bean.

      Mad, moi? I think Harvey would have something to say about that.

      Well, he would but I don’t speak rabbit.

      Though I can rabbit on, obvs.

      Oh, look! A carrot…

      Fairy Nuff, Cactus: Stetson or Fedora on Sats? Don’t want to clash. Can’t pluck up the courage to wear my Homburg.

    59. Smallaxe says:

      Cactus Says:
      “(There was a fair bit of lovin’ last night on here, it must’ve been all the FUN and excitement of the football or summin)”

      There was more than a fair bit of lovin’Cactus, I’m not Foolin’ there was a;
      “Whole Lotta Love”

      You asked for that!

    60. Smallaxe says:


      You know what’s coming, don’t you;

      You asked for it!

      I may wear a Panama hat.

    61. Cactus says:

      Hehe I’ll be travelling in top-hat avec monocle, with side cain and cape, in amongst all the rest of us SuperScots, courtesy of Bonnie Bannockburn.

      A whole lotta lovin’ it always is smallaxe excellent, we both knows.

      Fun at Bannockburn it is.

      Send a postcard…

    62. Cactus says:

      Also may one make a polite request s’il vous please.

      Could somebuddy please bring their DRONE along to Bonnie Bannockburn so we can get some aerial shots, ta.

      Scotland on tour 2018.

    63. Smallaxe says:


      Your postcard;

      You asked for it!

      No Mean City, right enough.

    64. Cactus says:

      Eh an by the way… LUV XXX

      LOVE three times a day.

      Turn it UP!

      (hope I got the music link right)

    65. Smallaxe says:

      Cum wi slow it an chill fi a likkle bit wah yuh say?

      Dat cool enuff fi yuh?

    66. Cactus says:

      Howsabout the Homburg TC yeah, cool hat, noting white gloves and Cameo accessories are optional extras… hehe, said mj 🙂

      Bannockburn, pretty middleish in Scotland, excellent transport links, visit Scotland… for you.

      Come on down Inverness
      Come on up Dumfries
      Take a drive across from Drymen
      Hitch a ride over from Dunfermline

      This is your Summer 2018 Scotland.

      Get to YOUR gig.

      It’s FREE.

    67. Cactus says:

      Groovy vibes Smallaxe, jah man 🙂

      U set da tone on da microphone.

    68. Fred says:

      Looking like Brian Doon The Toon could be right about the “Fire!”

    69. Tinto Chiel says:

      “U set da tone on da microphone.”


      Homburg, you say, Cactus?

      Black or grey?

    70. cearc says:


      Black or grey? Brown, surely?

    71. Tinto Chiel says:

      How so, cearc?

      Doubt it would complement my skin tones.

    72. Cactus says:

      Try go for all three TC.

      LOVE three times a day.

      Breakfast, late-lunch and dinner.

      Hey cearc xx

    73. Cactus says:

      WOW! The significance of what we will all be doing this Saturday at Bannockburn. History will remember the 23rd. Take photographs and video.

      It’s gonna be an emotional day.

      It’s gonna be a fun day.

      It’s gonna be.

    74. Cactus says:

      A reminder of your history Scotland:

      Here comes Scotland!

    75. CameronB Brodie says:

      Just catching up with events and see that Westminster appears to believe itself the bastion of liberal democracy and reflective cultural competence. Apart from when it comes to dealing with Scotland, obviously, where Westminster appears to favour authoritarian despotism. Such is the political morphology of British nationalism.

      A Theory of Freedom: From the Psychology to the Politics of Agency

      Subject, action and polis: Theorizing political agency;sequence=1

      Pedagogy of Freedom, Ethics, Democracy and Civic Courage

    76. Daisy Walker says:

      @ Stravaiger says:
      12 June, 2018 at 9:39 am
      @Daisy Walker

      Will you be at AOUB at Bannockburn or Inverness? Any chance of meeting up? There’s something I’d like to chat about.

      I will be at Bannockburn, I will loiter at the Wings stall… look for the big blond dog with one ear pointing forward… either that or get Ronnie to point me out.

      I don’t do illegal by the way, just to be clear.

      O/T Folks I saw a tweet on the Revs account a few days ago, which seemed to claim that oil exports amounted to 30% of all UK exports in 2015 – I’d like to verify same, but can’t find it anymore, can anyone shed light on this.

      Best wishes to all.

    77. Tinto Chiel says:

      Three, Cactus?

      Will have to consult my tailors, Grabbit and Runne for my new chapeau marron 😉

    78. Stravaiger says:

      @ Daisy Walker,

      Cool. Nothing illegal, just some stuff that of necessity can’t be talked about on an open forum.

    79. cearc says:


      So you’re going dressed as a chestnut? See, I told you the hat should be brown.

    80. Tinto Chiel says:

      @ cearc: damn you, you’re good!

      Can’t really argue with a woman *rubs plaster casts on arm and leg ruefully*

      Daughter No.2 tells me there was a five-minute Scottish news so we can all gather round the one-bar electric fire with our Bovrils to watch the England game. Huzzah!

      Never has obscure place-name research appeared so appealing. You know who I mean, Lickprivick…..

    81. Archie (not Erchie) says:

      Just to announce that the snow drifts have been cleared on the Auchenshoogle bypass and it seems that this man will appear on the fields, highways, and byeways of Stirling. I am so looking forward to this or

    82. Archie (not Erchie) says:

      Just to announce that the snow drifts have been cleared on the Auchenshoogle bypass and it seems that this man will appear on the fields, highways, and byeways of Stirling. I am so looking forward to renewing previous meetings. See you all there.

    83. Cactus says:

      A bit like a cat has three names TC, a hat has three names:

      A hat for each & every occasion.

      The naming of hats.

      Miaowww 🙂

      See ye there Archie, should be fun.

    84. Cactus says:

      I was watching some of the auld Glasgow Trams black n white footage again… mesmerising… back then, EVERYBUDDY wore a hat.

      Have you been to Glasgow’s World Famous Transport Museum…

      It’s worth a walk and The Tall Ship is there on oor Clyde.

      Scotland rising.

    85. Cactus says:

      Checklist for Bannockburn:

      – Arrive in the morning, make a day of it
      – Wear suitable footwear and bring water
      – Admire the glorious turnout
      – March
      – Smile and wave at any unlearn’ed ones who may turn up
      – Sing, chant, dance and have fun
      – To destination

    86. Cactus says:

      This is OUR march FOR independence.

      All Under One Banner.

    87. cearc says:


      The fashion or habit of going hatless is a very modern phenomenon, it only started about 50yrs. ago.

      Strange really. I guess people have come to like getting sunstroke (largely undiagnosed) in summer and bloody cold in winter.

    88. Thepnr says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      Read your suggestion the other day on the MT about rebuilding the GSA in a “better” location that is more accessible.

      I think that’s a very good idea and if they intend to demolish totally the existing structure then it becomes a great idea.

      In other words it should not be demolished if it can be saved, they could take it down brick by brick and rebuild it in a more suitable spot where it might stand for another 200 years at least.

      Somebody will have to pay out for the damage caused by this fire and that will be the underwriters of the insurance companies of whoever is found responsible.

      Whatever I would definitely rebuild it, maybe 20 years ago a historic school in Dundee burnt down, Morgan Academy. The entire thing was rebuilt and from the outside was identical to the original. It can be done, where there’s a will…

      Here’s the old Morgan on fire and why it happened.

      Then there’s the new, which coincidently celebrates it’s 150th this year.

    89. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Thepnr.

      The evening of the Morgan fire, Pete the camera was up The Law and saw the plume of smoke. He took a photo from Law Road (the road that winds its way up The Law) then headed over to Stobbie.

      I uploaded his series of pics to my original “Doon The Toon” web site, which was captured by the Internet Archive.

      Due to the way the Internet Archive worked in those days, sometimes a pic wasn’t captured. Other times, when you click the “Next” button, the pic doesn’t appear until you reload the page. If a pic just appears as its text title, eg “morgan01.JPG”, try reloading the page as well. I saw his first pic from Law Road after a reload/refresh page.

      Onnyhoo, you can explore here:-

      BTW: the reason the pics appear so small nowadays is because, in 2001, they were fine on an 800×600 monitor!

    90. Thepnr says:

      @Brian Doonthetoon

      Man,they were brilliant pictures, so thanks for that and especially to Pete. I remember the fire well but seeing the gutted shell back then I was totally amazed that just a few years later a brand new Morgan looking exactly the same was in it’s place.

      So now this year we have a school celebrating it’s 150th birthday when in fact it’s less than 15 years old which reminds me of this which is total class 🙂

    91. Dave McEwan Hill says:

      completely O/T

      What is happening to our plants. Last year I had so many apples the branches were almost breaking. Looks like the same is happening again though apple trees are usually one year on/one year low harvest. But it’s my rasps . The stems are usually about five feet tallest. I have never seen so many raspberries and the stems are up to over seven feet and bending over. Are the plants telling us about another Siberian episode coming up this winter?

    92. Fred says:

      Dave, rasp canes shot up without a check last year in the wet Summer, flowers fertilised well by bees in that good spell this Spring, hence the promised crop. Can U get European labour to pick them though, that is the question?

    93. Tinto Chiel says:

      Fred: haven’t heard of the Willox the Warlock you mentioned on a M/T, though I see there is a book available on him on A____n.

      We once lived in a holiday house in Mellon Udrigle (opp. Anthrax Island) near Loch na Beiste but survived. Mind you, I didn’t go up there at midnight slathered in anchovy paste.

      Think the kelpie was supposed to have disposed of a schoolmaster or summink, so it can’t have been all bad 😉

    94. Bill Hume says:

      I have been posting a quote of the day on my facebook page for some time now. Thought some of you would like to see this one.

      Quote of the day, from Ian Hamilton in his book STONE of DESTINY

      “I did not go to London all these years ago to fetch back a hunk of stone. I went to do something for my country. I wanted to see if it was still alive because at that time it seemed dead. Nobody cared. I was not then, nor am I now, greatly concerned with how Scotland is governed. Independence will come when the people want it.”

      Might I ask that anyone who does not wish to see Scotland once more reduced to simply a region of the UK, whether or not you wish independence, to come along to Bannockburn on Saturday (23rd June 2018). It’s rather important.

      I shall be there, so if you see a rather short, overweight OAP being towed about (usually to places I don’t want to go) by a big Bernese Mountain Dog………….it’s probably me.

      Do say hello.

    95. Fred says:

      @ Tinto, Willox apparently took a charm to present to the duke of Gordon who was raising sojers to fight Napoleon. The duke thought Willox was joining-up so was not too happy. The charm guaranteed the wearer against musket-balls so his grace made Willox wear it while ordering a party of new recruits to load-up. The Warlock took to his heels while the sojers fired after him!

      Anchovy-paste like orange brassieres would require a “Safe” word methinks!

    96. Tinto Chiel says:

      Fred, I thought salesmen had to believe in their wares, as in the power of positive thinking?

      Did a reccy of the Bannockburn course yesterday and we have been shunted on to streets through housing for the most part. I really hope we get the bods out to sicken the Britnats.

      Is it a 1.30pm kick-off, Bob?

    97. Tinto Chiel says:

      Sorry, Bill.

    98. Tinto Chiel says:

      You can take the girl out of Motherwell:

      Btw, came across a Jacobite slogan that’s bang up to date:

      “Prosperity to Scotland and no Union.”

    99. Tinto Chiel says:

      This is for hackalumpoff, a one-man restoration machine, ‘cos he sez Van’s The Man:

      Love it when the drummer takes a flaky towards the end…

    100. Smallaxe says:

      I do hope that you will forgive my impertinence, Tinto, old bean, but I will play your choice of song again, this time it may make a certain Ms Lucia Daines swoon.

      “My Laggan Love” Dusty Springfield;

      This place is getting dusty Lucia, in more ways than one.

    101. Smallaxe says:

      The Wheel Turns,

      “Litha” Celebration of the Summer Solstice/Litha

    102. hackalumpoff says:

      @ Tinto, 2:11PM rightbackatcha

      See you on Saturday.

      Wingers, I have three spare seats in my car going from Glasgow Gorbals to Bannockburn on Saturday, will be leaving around 11AM get parked and and flegged up. Reply on here if you need a lift.

    103. Tinto Chiel says:

      Ah, Smallaxe, remember Miss Daines? Charming young lady, if a bit scatty. And the pert and feisty Paula Rose, the wonderful parties at her gaff: the potted “palms”, the chankie lock on the bog door, the lava lamp lost in the lady’s lavvy, the Ian Brotherhood memorial upturned plant pot with attendant little hostage, the unorthodox smoke-house…

      Ou sont les neiges d’antan? Eh, Poindexters?

      Hackalumpoff: glad you can make B’burn and take a break from your Herculean labours. Mrs TC says I’ve never even thought of a Wonderful Remark, let alone articulated one.

      The Laydees, eh? Can’t live with, can’t live with them…..

      *Starts feather-dusting early to avoid unseemly domestic strife*

    104. hackalumpoff says:

      @ Smallaxe, thanks for that, new to me.
      If you ffwd to 13:27 it seems the Norn Irish had the same educational experience as most Scots, Anglification, or whatever our Cameron Brodie might call it.
      Here’s another great Irishman, approriate for the times, oi tink.

    105. Smallaxe says:


      You’re welcome, I listened to that one before I played it and agree with you about the education similarities.

      Christy Moore, is, as you say another of the greats. This track may sound a bit morbid but I like to listen to it through headphones.
      Christy Moore:”Danny Boy” [Spoken Poem]

      Goodnight, I’m heading to Stirling tomorrow, see you there.

    106. Smallaxe says:

      Hi Tinto,

      Another Irishman;
      Liam Clancy:”Band Played Waltzing Matilda”

    107. hackalumpoff says:

      OI Smallaxe, ” Liam Clancy:Band Played Waltzing Matilda ”
      That’s an Eric Bogle song, One of oors !
      Here’s one of his best:

      Off to bed, early start on tiling etc.

    108. Smallaxe says:

      Hackalumpoff says:
      “One of oors”

      Smallaxe says:
      One World One People “One Love”;
      Out of Many, One People.

    109. Cactus says:

      Out of Many, One People.

      There are 7 sides to it.

      As you know. 😉

    110. Smallaxe says:

      One of the seven, Cactus,

      The Blues Brothers:”Everybody Needs Somebody to Love”

      That’s important!

      See you tomorrow, Good Buddy.

    111. Cactus says:

      It’s gonna be excellently awesome Smallaxe.

      RA weather is looking 2b hot n SUNny 🙂

      One of the seven.

      Upon ramorra.


    112. Tinto Chiel says:

      That The Band Played Waltzing Matilda gets you every time, doesn’t it?

      Excellent choices last night gentlemen.

      Cactus: strike the Homburg. In view of the meteorological prognostications, I’ll be sporting my classic straw fedora (NOT Panama) with my wee string vest and navy PE shorts (circa 1968).

    113. cearc says:

      I’m so sorry I can’t join youse tomorrow. I’m sure it will be a great day and am feeling a bit sad about missing it.

      I’m completely birdy-bound at the moment and it would be totally unreasonable to ask my neighbour to shut them up when the runner ducks don’t come home until about 10,30 and the a couple of muscovies even later.

      Definitely will do Inverness as I can do it as a day trip.

    114. dramfineday says:

      Tomorrows March, Top Tip: For those of you travelling from the Edinburgh area remember that the roads around the Airport will be congested due to the Highland Show. Noticed yesterday that the City bypass (west bound) was backed up as far as the M8 turn off, Also M8 backed up to Junction 1 Livingston (Edinburgh Bound)from the turn off to the Airport. Leave yourself more time or seek an alternative routes.

    115. Tinto Chiel says:

      @cearc: can’t believe you’re ducking this one out 😛

      What eggsactly is the problem? It’s not good to be cooped up all day you know.

      Will give my saltire an extra twirl for you (new poles too).

    116. cearc says:

      Yep, I’ve chickened out. Or rather I’m all chickened out at the moment. With the added excitement of random, daytime visits from a vixen.

    117. Tinto Chiel says:

      “With the added excitement of random, daytime visits from a vixen.”

      Me too, in a way!


      Must get the dusting, polishing, dysoning und so weiter done by 1 0’clock.

    118. cearc says:

      Ah, but I have the advantage of being able to set a hunter on to mine (when he gets back from his fishing jaunt).

    119. Tinto Chiel says:

      For all you sophisticates/retreads/retros:

    120. Michael McCabe says:

      Where the Soul never dies

    121. Thepnr says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      You mentioned on the MT about feeling “jaded”. I’m not surprised, it’s not like we’re pounding the streets but evn just keeping up with and reading all that news is a hard slog.

      Sometimes I’m like my brain is frying with information overload. I guess that is nothing though to those whose kids are hungry tonight and whose parents believe there is no future for them.

      My only goal is no hungry children, no homeless and no individual believing in no future. I can manage a march tomorrow in support of that. We do the best we can and keep doing it then we will eventually get where we want to go.

    122. Dave McEwan Hill says:

      Go Go Go…… Probably the anthem for the next independence campaign but Chuck at his best and most people have never heard this number

    123. Smallaxe says:

      Good morning, Wingers. A bright sunny morning here in Stirling, see you all soon.?

    124. Smallaxe says:

      (?)/ Smile.
      Effin phone!

    125. Tinto Chiel says:

      Morning, Smallaxe.

      See you later, I hope.

    126. Smallaxe says:

      Morning, Tinto.

      See you when you get to the Wings stall.

    127. cearc says:

      Wave a flag for me.

    128. Michael McCabe says:

      this song is for everyone going to Bannockburn today. And for all those who are not going but wish they could. but it is mostly for Me. Bannockburn here I come.

    129. Cactus says:

      One has arrived in Stirling, lookin’ our for ye straw fedora TC, we’ll fly em high cearc, in the sunny beer garden oot back xx

    130. Cactus says:

      We’ve just seen a circular rainbow through the sun, photies taken, look up with sunglasses and wear sunscreen xx

    131. cearc says:

      Aye, rub it in, Cactus, wontcha – It’s grey and drizzling here (probably in sympathy with me for not being there)!

      Have a great day everyone. Hugs all around.

    132. K1 says:

      On the livestream…police estimating 10,000, probably a lot more given they usually underestimate by the thousands….hoping to see familiar faces on the stream, huv a braw day you lot 🙂

    133. Tinto Chiel says:

      @K1: do you have a sick note?

      Cactus: too windy for my fed. when I got out the Bentley Con. so went for the classic George Clooney Grecian 2000 look with added smoulder.

      Spotted you in your estimable hat on the field after the march. Enjoy your evening 😉

    134. K1 says:

      Ma only excuse is that I didn’t get organised in time…too busy wi other stuff of late…twas ever thus 😉

      Looks like it was a great day for everyone involved…sorry to have missed yer sartorial display Tinto…how was the dapper Smallaxe turned oot? No doubt he outshined wi his usual debonair elegance 🙂

    135. Tinto Chiel says:

      You were missed by us soffisticates, K1. Sorry you couldn’t make it.

      Smallaxe was extremely dapper as per in fine suit and designer shoes. I was as a black hole before the Gretna sartorial supernova (peotry) wot he represents. Went for the James Cameron crumpled linen-jacket-in-Saigon-tropical-look but don’t think it came off and the ivory hempen espadrilles with fuchsia tassles were defo ill-considered.

      Still, there’s always Inverness.

    136. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Well done abody on today.

      Sorry I disappeared so abruptly, mrs & lass were dog-tired (as was I, truth be told) and I hate long goodbyes.

      Another important day done & dusted – we’re that toty bit closer to The Big One.

      😉 🙂

    137. cearc says:


      All of Inverness is buzzing as they await the sartorial splendours to be revealed. The whole city is awash with …uhhm, what’s the word I’m looking for?..

      Ahh, that’s it, indyference.

    138. Tinto Chiel says:

      “indyference”: love it, you word-smith, you. Any wardrobe pointers?

      Is Leakey’s bookshop still there? Almost got lost in there once.

      Ian B: Glasgow Intellectuals’ Symposium?

    139. hackalumpoff says:

      @ Tinto, your sartorial exquisitness was once again eclipsed by Mr Slick – the dapper Mr Smallaxe.
      You Sir, will have to up your gemme for Inversneckie.

      I hear this years trendsetters oop North are taking the Mankini/Kilt combos to extremes.

      Rumours have it that Lidl have an exclusive offer on Mankini/Kilt in various tartans in their Inverness and northern stores next Thursday. I could join the queue at one of them on Thursday, if you can afford the £4.99.

      The original

      The update


      Great to meet all the Wingers today, now lets see the central belt invade Inverness, NO EXCUSES !

    140. Tinto Chiel says:

      hackalumpoff: that Mankini Look is so ’17, mon vieux. Nana, Queen of Links, alerted me a few months ago to the possibilities suggested by the lungi (q.v.) for the discerning Man about Town.

      So, it will probs be Kilmarnock bunnet, Jacobite linen shirt open to the pecs (for The Laydees), said sarong and Doc Martens to finish the combo.

      Still working on the socks…

    141. hackalumpoff says:

      @ Tinto, glad to say Primark Inverness has the very outfit for you, they also do a fine range of Bobban socks, naturally midge repellant. Nana, Queen of Links also does a darn good line of them.
      I do believe the young Donald J Trump bought several pairs of hers on his last visit so you better be quick as he is due back soon and he is a leader not follower.

    142. Smallaxe says:

      A’m knackered, great day, great people from all walks of life, Tinto was sober, the sun shone down on us and a’m still knackered and listening to this.

      It’s A Beautiful Day;

    143. Thepnr says:

      Just had a kip, I was knackered. Great to see all the usual faces today. Ken what? I think we might be winning 🙂

    144. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      Ah think ye’re right brother.


    145. Tinto Chiel says:

      @hackalumpoff: “DARN good line of them”.

      Saw what you did there: to’al respek.

      “Tinto was sober”: an outrageous suggestion. My seconds will be around to demand satisfaction, sirrah.

      That first beautiful day was a bit weird Smallaxe and the one with girl with no eyes will give me nightmares. I’m very sensitive, you know.

      Still beelin’ at the ridiculous route but, as Paula Rose said, winding through the schemes might have encouraged a lot of people to come out (both senses).

      Great to meet new faces who were just names, including the Hairy String.

    146. Quinie frae Angus says:

      What a grand day it was yesterday, such a sunny and inspiring afternoon with my Wingy family and the wider Yes movement.

      Started off with that lovely “witchy-woo” moment in the Kilted Kangaroo beer garden, when Cactus, Thepnr and I spotted this most unusual and beautiful circular rainbow around the sun. Just as we were discussing its intrinsic wonder, Thepnr suddenly reminded us of the legendary Saltire cross seen in the sky by the Scots and the Picts……and the fact that The Battle of Bannockburn took place on this very day 704 years ago……

      This was the “Wingy Witchy-woo” experience. Still getting goosebumps now, just thinking about it!

      We were then joined by X-Sticks for another pint (and a half) before setting off on the march. What a heart-lifting experience, winding our way through the posh hooses and the scheme, waving and smiling to the passers-by and onlookers. The minute we reached the park I had to ran into the trees to find a “wee” spot, with X-Sticks doing the gentlemanly thing and providing cover for my lady modesties with his fulsome Saltire flag.

      Later highlights: standing chatting on the top of the hill with Craig Murray, who polished off the last of my wee whisky supply; the woman in the 1314 pub who took about twenty photies of Jock Scot and me underneath the “1314” sign, saying we made “such a beautiful couple”; and then Cactus and me as the last folk standing, grooving along to a live blues band in another pub before running for the last train back to Glasgow at 11 pm.

      What a wonderful day. Thanks, a’body!

    147. Thepnr says:

      @Quinie frae Angus

      Yes another good day and I’m always happy that I got off my arse and went along.

      Here you go, the rainbow around the sun, colours not obvious in the pictures but they were to the naked eye.

    148. Thepnr says:

      @Quinie frae Angus

      What we saw yesterday was literately a Halo! Look it up.

    149. Thepnr says:

      @ronnie anderson

      Thanks for the link, looking through all the pictures gave me goosebumps. Independence is normal and it shows!

    150. Gary45% says:

      Regarding the Mexican border situation in America.
      Zionist Israel now controls Zionist America.( Israel has been doing this, and worse to innocent Palestinians for decades)
      World wake up.

    151. Cactus says:

      Postcard frae Bannockburn:

      Good to be there with ye all on Saturday, fun times. Also noticed a marked non-presence of those of the opposing view… an unchallenged Yes march, let’s do that like that again…

      Even the one corner house that had a big uk flag in their window, as we neared the fields (whom we could see in their garden as we walked up the hill) appeared rather stunned by our march. No nervous smiles, they seemed in just a kind of mesmerised daydream. Ah said, halo there how ye doin’ in passing… but they didn’t even flinch, there was an eerie silence all around them.

      Aye we did good Quinie, good fun on the local live scene!

      It’s fun to march
      It’s fun to sing
      It’s fun to dance
      It’s fun to win

      Be back soon Bannockburn.

      Thanks AUOB et al.

      Best Wishes,

    152. Archie (not Erchie) says:

      @ hackalumpoff – just in case you miss it theres a photo of the 3 of us on the march. Use Ronnie’s link above and the photo is fairly near the begining.

    153. CameronB Brodie says:

      I see that opposition to immigration isn’t confined to non-practicing Anglicans living in England. Given that Scotland has a comparatively tiny ‘ethnic’ population, certain folk posting on this site must really have a problem respecting difference. Makes you wonder why they support independence, frankly.

      Scotland and England share a culture that was created largely through methodological nationalism, but have there own unique cultures and identities. British nationalism is insensitive to these differences (see Brexit, for example). That’s what makes Westminster’s position re. Scotland and the EU, culturally chauvinistic. Racist, rational paternalism, such as Westminster is currently displaying towards Scotland, is a totally Victorian, imperialist mindset.

      Multiculturalism: A Critical Introduction

      Michael Murphy takes on the challenge of providing a concise critical introduction to multiculturalism — a subject whose terrain and terminologies remain analytically confused, culturally entangled, and deeply contested (Hall, Ponzanesi). Indeed, the proliferation of diverse and contradictory uses of the concept in academic, policy, and mass media discourses, especially since 9/11, confirm what postcolonial, literary, and critical race theorists have argued about “multiculturalism” for fifteen years: that it has become a “conceptual grab bag” with “elastic boundaries” and “a corresponding dilution of content” (Mills 2007, p. 89), a “floating” or “empty signifier” onto which “a range of groups project their fears and hopes” (Bhabha, p. 31; Gunew, p. 19), “an incoherent concept, which cannot be meaningfully either affirmed or rejected” (Fish, p. 78; quoted in Murphy, p. 12).

      “Multiculturalism” refers to anything from the cultural and political discourses and practices of foreign nationals and immigrants, to those of racial, ethnic, sexual, religious, and subnational minorities; from the social characteristics and problems of governance posed by any society composed of different cultural communities, to issues of tertiary education and curriculum reform; from the strategies and policies adopted to govern or manage the problems of diversity and multiplicity that multicultural societies engender, to the normative justifications of those strategies and policies (Bhabha, Hall, Sharma). Not only do the descriptive, normative, and legal senses of multiculturalism frequently get conflated — a problem that leads Murphy to spend nearly a quarter of the book engaging in what he calls “philosophical brush-clearing” (p. 28). It’s also the case that the literature on multiculturalism is vast, multidisciplinary, theoretically fragmented, and (as one might expect) developed and focused in disparate ways in different countries….

      Feminist theory and multiculturalism

      The question of multiculturalism as it is currently understood is the result of the major migrations of populations, as well as of the emergence of civil rights movements, liberation struggles, and feminist movements in Western nations and worldwide. Therefore as the two leading terms on minority rights, feminism and multiculturalism should be comrades in arms. However, as Shigehisa Kuriyama writes, the term multiculturalism is notoriously vague as ‘it sweeps under its blanket generality a tangle of confusion and uncertainties about how cultures can or should relate to each other, and how their worldviews relate to the world’ (Kuriyama, 1994: 337). Conversely feminism is marked by the unstable equilibrium between the universalizing common ground and the recognition of difference between women. Given the internal tensions within the two discourses it is only too obvious that questions of multiculturalism have been connected to feminist issues in many contradictory ways, though the relation between the two begins to have a genealogy of its own.

      According to Stuart Hall the ‘multicultural question’ addresses ‘how we are to envisage the futures of those many different societies now composed of peoples from very different backgrounds, cultures, contexts, experiences
      and positions in the ranking order of the world; societies where difference refuses to disappear’ (Hall, 2000: 209). Multiculturalism as a concept always intersects with the politics of inclusion and exclusion of multiple cultural forms within nation-states. Stuart Hall distinguishes the concept of ‘the multicultural’ as expressed by the adjective ‘multicultural’ from that of ‘multiculturalism’ as a noun. The term multicultural as adjective addresses problems of society and of governance which stem from different cultural communities coexisting within the same nation-state while at the same time retaining and protecting something of their ‘original’ culture and identities. In contrast, ‘multiculturalism’, as a noun, refers to ‘strategies and policies adopted to govern or manage the problems of diversity and multiplicity which multi-cultural societies throw up’ (Hall, 2000: 209). Thus, ‘the multicultural’ is a theoretical and contested discourse whereas ‘multiculturalism’ is a governing policy of specific nation-states….

      Race, Culture and Psychotherapy: Critical Perspectives in Multicultural Practice.


      Race, Culture and Psychotherapy provides a thorough critical examination of contemporary multiculturalism and culturalism, including discussion of the full range of issues, debates and controversies that are emerging in the field of multicultural psychotherapy. Beginning with a general critique of race, culture and ethnicity, the book explores issues such as the notion of interiority and exteriority in psychotherapy, racism in the clinical room, race and countertransference conflicts, spirituality and traditional healing issues. Contributors from the United States, Britain and Canada draw on their professional experience to provide comprehensive and balanced coverage of the following subjects: critical perspectives in race and culture in psychotherapy; governing race in the transference; racism, ethnicity and countertransference; intersecting gender, race, class and sexuality; spirituality, cultural healing and psychotherapy; and future directions. This book will be of interest not only to practising psychotherapists, but also to students and researchers in the field of mental health and anyone interested in gaining a better understanding of psychotherapy in a multicultural society. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2016 APA, all rights reserved)

    154. Tinto Chiel says:

      I heard this on my crystal set yesterday and it set my melancholy poet’s soul a-musing.

      As Smallaxe was saying recently, I think Paula Rose would have liked it, or that kookie, strange little girl (cue The Stranglers) Lucia Daines who flits noiselessly around the PRMG doing the domestic needfuls but is never seen.

      It’s a pure mystery, soanitis.

    155. Smallaxe says:

      Hi, Tinto,

      I think that strange little girl has been somewhat disillusioned by certain people or maybe just a person;
      Quite sad really, intit?

    156. Smallaxe says:

      I’m gone for the day, I leave this for all who take the time to watch and understand;

      With all it’s sham drudgery and broken dreams it is still a beautiful world, strive to be happy.

      Namaste, my friends.

    157. Tinto Chiel says:

      Quite so, Smallaxe. Take care.

      Some find this a trifle bleak but the poet suffered a mental breakdown following the Enclosure Acts and the destruction of his traditional rural world, where familiar landmarks of common land and woods, with their sentimental significance, were swept away in the name of progress and the enrichment of the Tories who acquired land formerly held by the community.

    158. CameronB Brodie says:

      Being able to mastering the joy of living, really does boil down to how you learn to view the world. A patriarchal, colonial education (epistemology) leads to colonial aphasia and the perpetuation of colonial practice and inequality (see Brexit, ffs).


      Inspired by feminist legal theory and postcolonial literal studies this article interrogates the ‘transitional justice discourse’ and coins critiques which re-examine the discipline’s key tenets; namely, democracy, liberalism, rule of law and human rights. It argues that while transitional justice can be seen as one of the masculine human rights strategies that are reminiscent of imperial intervention in the lives of postcolonial subjects, it is open to seizure by the same. This is possible in transitional contexts since these situations create opportunities for stakeholders to rethink the inadequacies of the accepted discourse, and to subscribe to new ways of seeking justice.

      transitional justice, postcolonial and feminist legal theory, democracy, liberalism, power, human rights, justice,Feminism,_Postcolonial_Legal_Theory_and_Transitional_Justice,_A_Critique_of_Current_Trends.docx

      From postcolonial to post-growth and back
      Which ways for a feminist materialist critique of capitalism?

      A Postcolonial Feminist Perspective Inquiry into Immigrant Women’s Mental Health Care Experiences

    159. Tinto Chiel says:

      In which most of the participants seem totally gassed:–K5928M

    160. K1 says:

      Again and again I keep forgetting. How do you do a specific search for a commenter’s history of comments on Wings? I keep doing the ‘wings over Scotland ‘so and so says’ in the goggle search bar and sure enough thousands of hits. But it’s just the threads that come up and sure there may be a comment from said poster within that thread, but not gonnae search through every thread to find a commenters particular comments?

      But I recall doing something a little more advanced before that bdtt put up years ago and it gave all the comments from that particular commenter, I know cause I put my name in and up they all came.

      Any help much appreciated. 🙂

    161. Dave McEwan Hill says:

      Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh at a Forward Shop (YES Cowal)meetinmg at Dunoon Pier listening to three powerful young ladies

    162. Liz g says:

      Ronnie Anderson
      My Yes Group are interested in ordering some Rolls of the Tape you gave me samples of on Saturday.
      Can you post the details on here please….

      Or if anyone else knows how to order some…that’d be great

    163. Tinto Chiel says:

      K1: I’m sure BDTT will be your man.

    164. Michael McCabe says:

      Hi Tinto was great to put face to the name at Bannockburn. Great crowd Great day.

    165. Smallaxe says:

      Hi, Guys,

      What else can I play??

      Again, great day, great people, it was a privilege to be in your company. Peace, Love and Independence.

    166. ronnie anderson says:

      liz g It was Daisy Walker who got the tape printed put a message up for her

    167. Tinto Chiel says:

      Me too and coming right back at ya, Michael:

    168. Liz g says:

      Ronnie Anderson @ 10.49
      Thanks Ronnie will do.

    169. Smallaxe says:

      For Hackalumpoff;

      I’ll bet you would pay someone to take your back right now. The best advice I can give is to soak your back in whisky, from the inside.

    170. Cactus says:

      Hey K1, to find a users comments on any Wings page, you…

      Press the CTRL + F keys together (find shortcut).

      Then type name/word into the pop-up box.

      When using a keyboard that is.

      Then scroll x.

    171. Cactus says:

      That’s just search per page mind K1, yeah bdtt knows multi-search.

      Full moon soon, just before 6am this mornin’.

      Things are sunning up for Scotland. 🙂

      Use sunscreen.

    172. Michael McCabe says:

      Morning Smallaxe it was grand meeting you and Mrs Smallaxe at Bannockburn on Saturday. Will be back later with some songs.

    173. Smallaxe says:

      Good morning, Michael,

      It was our pleasure entirely, Michael. We’ll meet again soon, hopefully.

    174. cearc says:

      Freedom day for wee birdies here. The evil monster has been slain.

      Sunshine and the scent of elderflowers. Wee birdies pecking amongst the flowers and futilely attempting to catch wee moths that dance tantalising above their heads. Dust baths galore. All is well in the world again for them.

      Me? Well there’s a garage and two poultry sheds full of shite to tackle.

    175. Smallaxe says:


      I think you mean a garage and two poultry sheds full of Fertilizer;
      Great lyrics.

    176. Daisy Walker says:

      @ Lizg

      Re Tape, can you post a mobile number for me to contact you?

    177. cearc says:


      Hey, she’s even wearing the same harlequin ballgown and heels that I wear to clean out the sheds!

    178. Liz g says:

      Daisy Walker @ 11.06
      Hi Daisy
      Thanks for replying so quickly.
      My mobile doesn’t get a signal in this house.
      (That’s why one of the kids gave me it …. lol)
      Anyhoo….. If you mean to message me then yes I can give you it!
      But if you want to speak to me directly then it will need to be the land line,
      Which is best for you?
      Oh and there’s also an Email address
      Whatever suits you best.

    179. Daisy Walker says:


      E mail would be best if your OK with that.

      Best wishes.

    180. cearc says:

      Nah, I wear a white lacy number when I’m killing my dinners. The harlequin ballgown is for mucking out.

    181. Liz g says:

      Daisy Walker @ 1.23
      Thanks Daisy email it is then
      e [dot] gray61321 [at] gmail [dot] com

    182. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      (This may be an almost duplicate post.)

      Hi K1 says at 8:26 pm last night.

      You pleaded,
      “Again and again I keep forgetting. How do you do a specific search for a commenter’s history of comments on Wings?”

      Here’s the system I use.
      Go to Google’s Advance Search –

      In the text box marked “this exact word or phrase:”, paste the username – which you have copied EXACTLY from a WOS page – that you want to find.

      In the box a wee bit further down, marked “site or domain:”, paste in:-

      If you are looking for a specific word or words associated with that user’s input, you can type them in the “all these words:” or “any of these words:” boxes.

      When you hit enter/return, you should get a list of Wings’ pages containing the username.
      You may have an idea of when something was posted, in which case, as the hits are dated, you can ignore those which don’t fit chronologically, saving a bit of time.

      When you click on a likely page, wait for it to finish loading then hold down the “FIND” key combination – COMMAND-F (Mac) or CONTROL-F (Win) – and paste the username you seek into the wee text box.

      The first example found should be highlighted so you can read around the occurrence to see if it’s what you’re looking for. If not, click the DOWN arrow in the FIND box to jump to the next occurrence. Rinse and repeat…

      You can do the same for a specific page, like “off-topic”, by pasting the page’s url into the “site or domain:” box.

    183. Welsh Sion says:

      Please bear with me, although this is the BBC. I’m only claiming my 15 seconds [sic] of Fame.

      It’s aimed at those of you who don’t know me, may be have an interest in some of my posts on the main site, but might be wondering to yourselves how to say my first name. (You wouldn’t be alone nor the first.)

      Best wishes.

    184. Tinto Chiel says:

      Well done, Sion.

      What gets me is the increasingly common mispronunciation of AvieMORE, which becomes AVIEmore, even from some Scottish announcers now.

      Worse still, Pravdasound4 has discovered a new range of mountains in Scotland called the CAINgoms, apparently.

      And while rustling up Mrs TC’s dinner (viande hachee en facon “Cadzow”), I heard a BBC wummin rubbing it into some poor German journo about his team’s defeat by South Korea. Quite gobsmacked after all that when she asked him who he would be supporting in the England V Belgium game? Bizarre.

      Is it a deep-seated insecurity or something?

      Any way, I proffer a topical platter for your retro-enjoyment:

    185. Sion Williams says:

      Daisy Walker @ 1.23 27/06/18

      I would be very happy if I could contact you via email with regards to our mutual interest in songs.

      My address is llddc03 at yahoo dot com

      Thank you in advance.

    186. Dave McEwan Hill says:

      What I like even less is the mispronouncing of names as practised by snobs and Tories.
      Like Norman LA mont,when in fact is of norse origin and is Lamont or David MUNdell when in fact it actually properly pronounced as Mundle.

    187. Tinto Chiel says:

      @DMH: yes, they get on my nazzums too.

      You may recall in the 60s, football-types Willie WADDell and Jimmy FRIZZell (just an alternative old form of Fraser) had their names pronounced by English announcers with the stress on the second syllable.

      What a lot of BOLLocks.

    188. Fred says:

      Mundell locally munnel, tunnel, funnel, hawkers-bunle.

    189. Tinto Chiel says:

      Indeed, Fred, although in darkest Lanarkshire your last becomes cadger’s wap.

      Other insults are available….

      Braw day furrit, eh?

    190. Fred says:

      Braw day indeed Tinto, been watching The Bridge, also braw, & realised ah can understaun Danish!

      Ben Oovi, sun crackin rocks which a few short months ago were under four feet of snaw! Some country? Nae midgies but clegs ferocious if slow, including the fancy Episcopalian wans wi the green eyes!

    191. Thepnr says:

      My wife left today for a few days hillwalking around Fort William, I’m left on my tod with three dogs to mind. Here’s a wee picture of the three of them.

      The one in the middle is ours, the big one is a guide dog puppy and is just about to start his training so we might not see him again. The blur is my sister’s dog and she’s away walking with the wife too and left me in charge.

      While I was looking at these pictures I saw this one of the wife walking the West Highland way with our dog last year. Thought you might like it, wish me luck as a dogsitter lol.

    192. Welsh Sion says:

      Dunno if anyone else would like to lodge a complaint with National Express Coaches like I have but here goes.

      Watched their recent advert (not of choice, I was waiting to buy a ticket) and the promotion of “Daily journeys to 10 UK cities and 100’s of others.”

      Problem is – ALL 10 “UK cities” are located in England. None at all in Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland. So, I’ve left them the message this was hardly “national” nor did it cover what you’d expect people to understand by the term “UK”. (I know, I know, I’m a true, vile sep. as one contributor here called me, giving me a virtual bear hug in the process, but you gotta play it by their rules sometimes – if only, in order to turn the yoon words back onto their yoon countenances.)

      Anyhow – whatever you do – I’ll have brought it to your attention thanks to the admuirable adminning of Rev. Stu.

    193. Tinto Chiel says:

      Some more “Danish” for you, Fred, while Cherry Wainer goes mental on the old Hammond:

      Chanced upon an old volume of Greek apothegms/proverbs, including these Delphic ones:

      “The old hen is worth twenty chicks.”

      “The old cat chases young mice.”

      *Muses thereon*

      Answers please, on a £20 note, to:

      Self, “The Shambles”, 666, Main Street, Cadzow, Darkest Lanarkshire.

    194. cearc says:


      Enough time to teach the pup the ‘fetch a cold beer from the fridge’ command!

    195. Thepnr says:


      Good idea, will get started now before they get their tea 🙂

    196. Thepnr says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      Thanks for the heads up on the Netflix documentary “The Vietnam War”. I’ve just watched the fist episode and am hooked. Will watch all weekend, I’m amazed that this program was even made.

    197. Andy smith says:

      Can anyone give me any details on planned flag display on Salisbury crags/Arthur’s seat,tomorrow?

    198. Fred says:

      Guys, if U remember we discussed a book, “His Bloody Project!” a while back, the author Graeme MacRae Burnet featured on an Caesar! prog’ during the week. The village featured in the book was based on Culduie in Wester Ross post the Clearances & the author explained how he managed to create a work of fiction read like fact. Ah still think it wiz true. Clever stuff & well worth a read!

    199. Thepnr says:


      I bought that on your recommendation, great book and I even got my Mother in Law to read it. She kept it and I’ve yet to get it back 🙁

    200. Tinto Chiel says:

      Morning, soffisticates:

    201. hackalumpoff says:

      One for Cowdenbeath marchers to dance to.

    202. Tinto Chiel says:

      Top pick, hackalumpoff.


    203. Tinto Chiel says:

      Forgot to add this gem. It’s not just those pesky nats who experience BBC technical difficulties:

      Btw, hope things are all well with you, Macart.

    204. Cactus says:

      By ra way, one must say…

      Twas most excellent to hang out with you Jock Scot, Michael McCabe and lovely lady at the 1314 in Bannockburn 😉

      We’ll be back for the party.

      Cheers ye wingers.

    205. Cactus says:

      Early start ra night, at HOME ra now.

      Headin’ into the Big City…


      NB stay tuned Wingers.

    206. Tinto Chiel says:

      Welsh Sion:

      It seems from the M/T you are a fellow sufferer:

      Cadzow, ya bass.

    207. Cactus says:

      Hey Tinto, aye saw ye on recent comments.

      Cadzow like… 😉

      Aye once was the Duke of Hamilton (in dressage)

      Aye know you know Chatelherault CP.

      Aye have a linking.

      Walkies like…

    208. Welsh Sion says:

      Not quite as erudite as your reference, Tinto … but may be of interest …

      Thanks for yours.

    209. Cactus says:

      Do you know Tom or Christine of CCP, TC?

      When aye was a wee guy aye used to press the PLAY button in the CCP auditorium 🙂

      Aye used tae pool dip.

      Mon the auld oaks!

    210. Scottish Steve says:

      @Welsh Sion

      Hey, mate. I’m after a link to your songs.

    211. Thepnr says:


      Looks like a good night for the beer garden at the Clutha 🙂

    212. Tinto Chiel says:

      Re: Cadzow Oaks and Wallace’s Cave at Ch’herault: I have the gen, Cactus.

      Just back from daughter no.2’s after the France game (haven’t seen TV chez moi since Sept. 2014) and think I have discovered the Alan Partridge of Football, someone called Guy Mowbray.

      Rarely have I heard such a procession of clunking clichés, contrived “spontaneous” comments, Captain Obvious apercus and Anglocentric trivia.

      Since I have French in the family: Allez, les bleus!

    213. Cactus says:

      Cheers Thepnr, aye needed that, gonnae get my shit ra-gither (well oh, my my, almost sweary words!) schmoly shit!

      To me HOT shower…

      Jukebox here AND there.

      Will check back in… soon.

      To Wings.

      Free x.

    214. Welsh Sion says:

      Back at ya, Scottish Steve. @ 7:18pm

      Email: llddc01 at yahoo dot com

    215. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Cactus re CCP: not to my knowledge but the estate wall is about five mins walk from Tinto Towers.

      @Welsh Sion: I have the Oxenham book. Think it’s excellent as a reminder of the Welsh-language heritage in Scotland but has been superseded in some areas.

    216. Cactus says:

      Trees R cool TC. Big Love. FM knows 🙂

      Ah’ve seen the ones opposite ra Ranza Bar, Glasgow.

      Down near Arthur’s like.

      Molendinar like.

      City’s callin’ me…

    217. Cactus says:

      Ahm body-bound for ra Clutha Wingers.

      See yee’s all in there.

      City’s callin’ me…

      Saturday x.

    218. Tinto Chiel says:

      Get home safe, Cactus, mon vieux.

      Oaks, ya bass.

    219. cearc says:

      Have a good night, Cactus and lots of …

    220. Fred says:

      A new display of Benny Lynch memorabilia at the Peoples Palace plus a fund set up to erect a statue to the wee man. Must pay it a visit.

    221. Michael McCabe says:

      Morning Fred a wee tune for you.

    222. Tinto Chiel says:

      Lovely morning, innit?

    223. Fred says:

      Thanks for that Michael, great stuff! might be an idea to knock Dewar aff his perch & replace him with Benny!

    224. Cactus says:

      Now is the time to drink lovely cool Scottish water cearc, aye, aye drank a couple of gallons before sleepies. Enjoying a tasty cup of Earl Grey avec meil et lait of the maintenant.

      Ahm feeling remarkably brilliant. 🙂

      Think aye might take a stagger back to my Glasgow Green for the fun festivities.

      It’s summer Scotland xx!

    225. Cactus says:

      Hoops, honey is miel.

      Any world cup footy today?

      Eitherways ah’ll be heading oot back to oor big city.

      LBC is quite an eye opener for how the others think.

      Many need to learn.

      Be upbeat.

    226. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Fred 11.34: great idea. I’ll be delighted when yon I.M. Jolly reject gets dung doun and someone worthy put in his place.

      “Where’s our 6000 square miles of sea gone, Donald?”

      Other suggestions: Agnes Dollan or Helen Crawfurd (Mary Barbour has a statue in Govan now).

      I’m keeping John Maclean for Freedom Square, obvs.

    227. Dave McEwan Hill says:

      I’ve got a name for it . MOTBANOLG.
      Maist o’ the ba – and nane o’ the goals.

      There’s an issue growing about the soporific abuse of the game that Scotland brought to most of the world.

    228. Dave McEwan Hill says:

      Should of course be “MOTBANOTG”

      Might write an article about it. Did anybody know that when Celtic lost its unbeaten record when Hearts beat them 4 – 0 at Tynecastle Celtic actually had 67% of the ball.

      Last night Spain had nearly 80% of the ball.

    229. Tinto Chiel says:

      Yes, the death of Tiki-Taka? Trying to walk the ball into the net gets rather boring in the end.

      I hear young Mbappe, the French player who can run faster than a young deer through a burning forest, is donating his international appearance money to a children’s charity because he thinks it is a sufficient honour to play for your country.

      Totally contrived link no. 23:

    230. Fred says:

      Aye tinto, Sammy Dreep has over-steyed his welcome, a complete waste of good bronze. He had the hots for years for a Glasgow city councillor, (no names no pack drill!) but like Mistress Jean’s answer to the Laird o Cockpen, the lady said Nah!

    231. Dave McEwan Hill says:

      Tinto Chiel at 2.53 am

      With you entirely on the John Maclean Square. A petition should be started

    232. Tinto Chiel says:

      “Sammy Dreep”: 😛

      The only funny anecdote I’ve heard about him is probably apocryphal, Fred. While staying at some highland B&B, he was supposedly given one of those toatie wee jars of honey with his toast. His sniffy reply: “I see you keep a bee.”

      Other stories are not so good. Know an Accies fan who told me that they had set up a stall as part of a campaign to bring back the team to the town after they sold old Douglas Park to Sainsbury’s. This coincided with an election campaign. Dewar was in town and was asked to sign the petition by the fans but he gave them a hard stare and the cold shoulder.

      Later Alec Salmond came along, saw them, chatted to the lads, signed the petition and probably won some votes too. It’s the way he tells ’em.

      @Dave: have you read “The Red and The Green” by Gerry Cairns? It’s a new title to go alongside the works by Broom and Milton. Think I got mine from Calton Books.

      I believe yon erudite Fred has read it, flaneur and intellectual wot he is.

    233. Fred says:

      Ah Tinto, the bee story was told of an Aberdeen landlady by Jimmy Shand on a visit to Aberdeen, he wrote a tune “I see you keep a bee!” in her honour. Possibly the same wummin who advised her new guests that “if they run out of toilet-paper they had guid Scots tongues in their heids!”

    234. Tinto Chiel says:

      And thus the origin of the term “potty-mouth”?

    235. Tinto Chiel says:

      Time for the Princess of Taynuilt…..

      Some great views of the Skye hills and a little gem:

      Karen sings in Breton:

    236. Fred says:

      Great Stuff!

    237. Cactus says:

      Monday’s postcard frae the south side…



    238. Shinty says:

      Fred -““if they run out of toilet-paper they had guid Scots tongues in their heids!”

      – ‘Aye, but I’ve no got a neck like a giraffe’

      I’ve been laughing at that joke for 50 years

    239. Fred says:

      C’moan Giraffe!

    240. Dave McEwan Hill says:

      Tinto Chiel at 1.26

      Sounds familiar. I’ll dig it out.

      When I lived in salubrious Whitehill before I went off the Africa I managed the Golden Feathers pub for a short time. I think I was the only Tim ever to work there. I used to go to watch the Accies up at Douglas Park and was much taken by a sharp young inside forward called Paul Heggerty who also lived in Whitehill. I phoned up Celtic Park to suggest that big Jock had a look at him. The word I got from the big man via phone receptionist was “Mr Stein knows the family” as Big Jock lived in Whitehill before he became Celtic manager. Heggarty of course went off to Dundee United and Scotland fame

    241. Tinto Chiel says:

      Yon Laird o Cockpen was hairmless compared wi this chiel, Fred:

      A great voice Mae McKenna has, he Yoda’d.

    242. Tinto Chiel says:

      Dave: in the old First and Second Division days I watched Motherwell one week and Accies in the lower division the next when I was wee, since I was not allowed to ‘Well’s away games then. This meant that in a season I could see just about every Scottish team in a season.

      My father once pointed out a very old man in the Douglas Park stand wearing a bowler hat. This was Jimmy Brownlie, Scottish international goalie, who played for Dundee and attended most of Accies games then.

      Other great DP memories: going for a pie at 2.45 to be told they were finished because they hadn’t expected such a crowd; hearing a poor Forfar Athletic player’s leg snap like a twig on a cold frosty afternoon; seeing the inimitable Willie Forsyth, CF extraordinaire, who was bald, took out his wallies to play, I think, and was somewhat erratic in front of goal. He once floored a wee boy standing to the side of the goal with a mega-sclaff from about ten yards.

    243. Fred says:

      The first victims of the Irish Famine I believe were a Hegarty & a Kennedy!

    244. Tinto Chiel says:

      And the first and last construction workers killed while building the Hoover Dam were a son and his father respectively.

      Meanwhile, in other news, Willie Rennie is still a plank.

    245. Tinto Chiel says:

      FTS: Tierney was the unfortunate family.

      A song for today:

    246. Michael McCabe says:

      Good Morning Yes Folk

    247. Tinto Chiel says:

      Top pick, Michael. The years just fell away and I was young and beautiful again.

      *The Problem of The Cringe: De-Colonising the Brit-Nat Brain (No.1 in an occasional series).*

      I have been musing on this for a while. Of course, post-indy, we could just send them all for a ten-stretch at a cultural re-orientation farm where they would be forced to make haggis from scratch but I think they could be re-educated to value Scottish heritage, history and achievements using the Acme Off Topic/Brains’ Trust Library which we could compile here.

      Intensive reading for inmates would be interrupted every two hours by a bending-exercises-and-mineral-water regime. Tannoy background music: entire Proclaimers’ back catalogue.

      My starters for ten:

      The Lore of Scotland, Westwood and Kingshill, Lunnon 2011

      A Dictionary of Scottish Phrase and Fable, Crofton, Embra 2016

      The Silver Bough, vols. I-IV F. Marian McNeill, Glesca 1977

      The Man who found Time, Repcheck, Lunnon 2004

      Gaucho Laird, Graham, 2004, Long Riders’ Guild Press

      Since O/T is the home of Scottish Thought, I am sure we could quickly compile an Ark of Cultural Regeneration (he sooked).

      Heat fierce here in Central North Britain, made worse by all the hot air coming up from South Britain since about 2200 hours last night…..

      It’s a funny old game, Saint.

    248. Cactus says:

      Hey folks, easin’ back on the reins, we’ve still got a few furlongs to go till the winning post, savin’ some for the final gallop, cheers. 🙂

      The important business (debate) begins on Friday.

      The serious stuff.

    249. Michael McCabe says:

      Afternoon Cactus Loving the zappa you played on the main thread the other day.

    250. Cactus says:

      Afternoon Michael McCabe, top tune yours too, aye aye the crazily cool Franko, quite the entertainer.


      Game on.

    251. Smallaxe says:

      “Skin Deep” featuring Buddy Guy/Playing For Change;

      Out of many, one people!

    252. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      I’m gonna paste this in here.

      It’s a comment I posted on Sunday morning, on “The Stereotypes” WOS page.

      Absolutely nobody commented on it. I thought it showed how the BBC’s mind worked. Jiss me then…

      Onnyhoo, here’s what I posted:-

      “Brian Doonthetoon says:
      1 July, 2018 at 10:24 am

      As others above have quoted Andrew Marr from this morning’s programme, here’s something illuminating he uttered during the newspapers review, regarding diversity at the BBC.

      He explained to Martina Navratilova,
      “The BBC is very much an urban metropolitan organisation, which doesn’t necessarily represent the entire country.”

      So that’s us telt…”

    253. Tinto Chiel says:

      But Brian, he was only saying what anyone who listens to BBC radio would agree with: it’s simply an establishment mouthpiece, the state propagandist par excellence.

      I’m only mildly surprised such a Scots Cringer admitted it.

    254. Chick McGregor says:

      For any brother geeks out there, I can recommend the graphic novel series ‘Saltire’.

      Sure, it’s a bit of fun, but an entertaining, if fantastical pastiche of Scottish myth and legend expertly wound into a coherent arc (read storyline).

      If you haven’t yet dabbled in the genre which gives birth to most of current Western cultural output but would like to give it a try, it is as good a place to start as any.

    255. Smallaxe says:

      Too warm! Give me some rain.

      Ladysmith Black Mambazo: “Rain, Rain, Beautiful Rain”;


    256. Michael McCabe says:

      Morning Smallaxe the sun is out in the Capital but there is a nice wee Breeze. Anyway let me take you on a short Journey.

    257. Michael McCabe says:

      Jackson Browne- these days

    258. Smallaxe says:

      Hi Michael,

      I suppose that big shiny thing in the sky means it must be,

    259. Michael McCabe says:

      Hi Smallaxe nice version of Summertime my friend. A bit early I know but I am sitting here with a wee nip of rum (Medicinal) that’s my Excuse. anyway makes me think of this Song

    260. Michael McCabe says:

      Wendy McNeill-In Bocca Al Lupo

    261. Smallaxe says:

      As long as it’s rum from the West Indies Michael then it’s definitely medicinal.

      It will also keep you young;

    262. David says:

      Tradition, tradition, tradition –
      English sport, as it is seen by Swedes!

    263. Thepnr says:


      Haha very good and a nice “pleasant” change.

    264. Tinto Chiel says:

      @David: are you still in Brazil or have you come home to see The Buddies win the Premiership?

      Beautiful morning here, with a limpid moon peering through diaphanous drifts of gossamer cirrus.

      Think I’m getting a plook on my chin…

    265. Tinto Chiel says:

      Oi! Wot you chinnin’ me fur?

      Feel ma pecs, I dare ye!

    266. Smallaxe says:

      More like feel your pecks;

      Lieutenant Pigeon;

      Chin Chin, old chum!

    267. Thepnr says:

      Chin Chin is Japanese for penis, there’s a little known fact 🙂

    268. Smallaxe says:


      Did you have to tell him! I was sure that he wouldn’t know that.

    269. CameronB Brodie says:

      @JK Rowling
      If anyone is a bigot, it’s you. British nationalism is a legacy of degeneration theory. As such, the pathology of British nationalism is Victorian social Darwinism and racist exceptionalism. That’s what you and all other British nationalist are supporting.

      Dr Carolyn Burdett explores how Victorian thinkers used Darwin’s theory of evolution in forming their own social, economic and racial theories, thereby extending Darwin’s influence far beyond its original sphere.

      Charles Darwin’s On the Origin of Species did not include human beings in its discussions of species evolution. However, Darwin’s ideas were soon being applied to human groups and organisations. The shorthand term ‘Darwinian’ appeared very quickly after 1859 and was used in loose ways to refer to many different accounts of social development and progress. Some of these had little in common with Darwin’s theory, other than the belief that biological concepts could be applied to human communities. By the late 1870s, the phrase ‘social Darwinism’ began to be heard and, in the following decades, ‘Darwinism’ was used to describe and justify a whole range of competing political and ideological positions.

      Degeneration theory

      Constructing a Critical Political Theory

    270. CameronB Brodie says:

      British nationalism has been sold to folks as benign and the natural order of things. IMHO, it should be viewed as a culturally damaging social pathology.

      Social Pathology


      The concept of social pathology applies the medical metaphor of pathology to describe and explain social problems. From this perspective those individuals and groups who deviate from social norms, or institutions that do not fit with core social norms, are “sick” or pathologic and a risk to the society’s “health.” Social pathology was a very influential model in nineteenth-century American and European sociological writings on social problems. The concept is closely related to those of social disorganization and deviance. However, social disorganization focuses on the malfunctioning of social institutions and structures rather than on the individual. The concept of deviance became popular in the 1950s. It was strongly influenced by the concept of anomie (Durkheim, Merton) and is similar to social pathology in that it focuses on the individual criminal.

      When the concept of social pathology became famous, many authors using this concept also applied Darwinist and evolutionary models to the analysis of society. They aimed to contribute to social progress and regarded every kind of behavior or social phenomenon that appeared as obstacles to social progress as pathologic and therefore inferior. The concept of social pathology contains an inherent tension. On the one hand, it emerged at a time when sociologists such as Comte and Spencer sought to establish the field of sociology as a ….

      Social Darwinism in the Gilded Age

      Mistaking Eugenics for Social Darwinism: Why Eugenics Is
      Missing from the History of American Economics

    271. CameronB Brodie says:

      Brexit is a good example of the chauvinistic nature of British nationalism.

      Critical political economy, free movement and Brexit: Beyond the progressive’s dilemma


      The progressive’s dilemma suggests that a trade-off exists between, on the one hand, labour and welfare rights underpinned by solidarity and shared identity and, on the other hand, open immigration regimes. With reference to debates on free movement in the UK, it is argued: (1) that a progressive European critical political economy literature of the Left has a tendency to accept this dilemma and resolve it in favour of a the former; (2) that it does so because it erroneously conflates the free movement of people with the (increasingly neoliberal) free movement of goods, capital and services; and (3) that it could and should treat human mobility as qualitatively different and, consequently, need not accept the terms of the progressive’s dilemma. The argument has important implications for a progressive politics in general and for the Left’s (particularly the Labour Party’s) position in the UK on free movement (and, by extension, on Brexit).

      Key words:
      free movement, EU citizenship, Brexit, the Left, progressive’s dilemma

      Brexit and Immigration: The Looming Labour Market Crisis

      With Brexit little more than a year away, one of the most pressing issues remains unresolved – immigration. Policymakers are grappling with how to satisfy both public and business demands for restrictive and expansive approaches to immigration respectively. This article considers the factors that have shaped the structural dependence of EU labour, with a focus on three low skill sectors that will be severely affected by the termination of free movement….

      Introduction: The 2016 Brexit referendum and Trump election


      Global narratives about the 2016 US presidential election and the UK referendum highlight rupture—liberal democracy in crisis. Yet some observers interpret this moment to be business as usual writ large—a display of racial, class, and gender injustices that have long betrayed democratic ideals. Contributors to this special AE Forum explore both perspectives as they probe the disorientation many feel and address issues such as the politics of lying, voters’ personal perspectives, varieties of populism, limitations of common media frames, demographic reductionism, reconfigurations of class politics, and the temporalities of cosmopolitanism. This political moment challenges anthropologists to unsettle our discipline, especially by paying close attention to contradictions within liberal representative democracy and by listening to those who imagine alternative political and economic futures.

    272. Tinto Chiel says:

      Just back from a three-hour triathlon training session with end-on tantric bending exercises to find that Smallaxe ‘n’ Thepnr, O/T’s resident maharajahs of mirth, having been active in my absence.

      I would remind them that the salacious import of “Turning Japanese” would appal all right-thinking people.

      I’m more disappointed than shocked, really. They seemed like such nice, clean-cut boys *simpers*.

      PS: would the scunner who borrowed my bicycle pump please have the decency to return it to P.O. Box 666, Old Cadzow, Darkest Lanarkshire and oblige, etc.

    273. Fred says:

      Tinto, thoughts on the pronunciation of that Cadzow?

    274. Smallaxe says:

      “They seemed like such nice, clean-cut boys *simpers*.”

    275. Tinto Chiel says:

      Smallaxe, that’s the wrong way to play pitch and toss: use horse-shoes next time, you silly sausage. You’re looking all a-smoulder in that dress, btw.

      Fred: the “z” in Cadzow is actually a misreading of the symbol for yogh, consonantal y. Some think the original place-name comes from Old Welsh/Cumbric “cae dehou”, (south field/enclosure) and it’s quite a persuasive explanation, thought “coed” (wood) might be possible for the first word too.

      Since the printed form usually ousts the correct, original spoken form over time in p-ns, it’s no surprise that the z sounds as z in modern pronunciation and, of course, the original stress on the second syllable has been buggered by Anglicisation and moved forward.

      I may issue a plook bulletin later. Did you know England are playing in the World Cup thingy?

    276. Smallaxe says:

      Izat z pronounced zee or zed, Tinto?

      Azking for a friend;

      Zat’s all

    277. Tinto Chiel says:

      When our heiresses were toatie, they got a video of SotS as a present and I found myself watching it regularly at 6 or 7 in the morning while they got washed, dressed, fed, sent up chimneys, etc. The song were quite enjoyable but the Uncle Tomism was pretty blatant, as were the crows characters.

      I believe it has been withdrawn by Disney since it is now considered racist. I’ve heard Arlene Foster has bought up all the stock for her cocktail parties.


    278. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Smallaxe at 11:31 am.

      You mentioned,
      “Lieutenant Pigeon”.

      Have I flagged this up to you before? It’s a ‘mashup’ I concocted around 1974 (before mashups had been invented), using my Akai reel-to-reel tape deck and a BSR turtable with the stepped pulley altered by Humbrol customising body putty to be conical, so that I could have varispeed, controlled by folded cardboard under the speed change lever.

      Technical, iye?

    279. Smallaxe says:

      Hi Brian,

      I remember you played that a couple of years ago-ish, I enjoyed it then and enjoyed hearing it again, thanks.

      I just used my ears to listen to it, technical iye?

      “I can’t tell the bottom from the top”

    280. Tinto Chiel says:

      Might I modestly point out at this juncture that the manager of Belgium is Roberto Martinez, who played for Motherwell FC in 2000-1 and married a Scottish lady, Beth, while in Scotland.

      As Macart would say: “Who knew?”

    281. Fred says:

      @ Tinto, ah ken aboot yoch, so it’s “kadzo” to the locals? Have seen the oaks which are just sooperb.

    282. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Fred: re yogh, thought you might, you old tease.

      Yup, “Kadzo”. Hamilton is an name imported by the new proprietors from an English estate and the old Celtic name was extinguished officially. The ancient white cattle are no longer extant in the woods either.

      The oaks are rather special, non? I gathered a good gowpan of their acorns one autumn and planted them out in pots after sticking them in the fridge freezer for a wee while but I came back from work one day to find a squirrel had got all of them.

      Grey squirrels are the spawn of Beelzebub, imo.

      Ya bass.

    283. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Smallaxe: zatafact, Zebedee?

      “The geese are flying high tonight.”

      “Fill my heart with a monotonous languor.”

    284. CameronB Brodie says:

      @JK Rowling
      Scotland takes a different view to England, on matters concerning identity and equality. I suggest you step out of the debate, as it is clear you lack an appreciation of political economy or cultural management. I imagine that will free up time for you to support Brexit and other things English.

      Introduction: A ‘Scottish Approach’ to Race Equality?

      Scottish approaches to Race Equality have come a long way since Martin MacEwen (1980) wondered if ‘race-relations’ in Scotland were best characterised by ‘ignorance or apathy’. This complaint looks firmly out of place today even though matters of equality are formally reserved to Westminster in the Scotland Act (1998).

      Scotland, as does the UK, has broadly understood tackling discrimination as something active in seeking to treat people equally rather than resting on a benign ideal of equal treatment. In theory at least, this reaches beyond how different groups might blend into society, and relies on group-specific instruments to outlaw discrimination based on gender, disability, age, sexual orientation and so forth, as well as monitoring the institutional under-representation among such groups (Meer, 2010). Amongst this increasingly intersectional configuration, approaches to race equality have developed what Hepple (2011) calls an ‘unsettled apparatus’ that is also reflected in Schedule 5 of the Scotland Act 1998 (c46), which incorporated the functions of the third Race-Relations Act (1976). Other developments, however, can be traced to a distinctively Scottish, rather than UK, experience….

    285. Fred says:

      @ Tinto, rats wi furry tails eh! Anent the geese, ye must be needing spex, this is the moult so no high-fliers.

    286. Smallaxe says:

      Tinto says,

      @Smallaxe: zatafact, Zebedee?
      “The geese are flying high tonight.”

      Ye zink zo?

    287. Smallaxe says:

      Hi Fred,

      Anent the longtails, this is whit ye need;

    288. Smallaxe says:

      I bet this guy’s cool,

      Bob Dylan:”Quinn The Eskimo”

      Sub Zero, man*

    289. Tinto Chiel says:

      @#MankyMates: you have subverted the paradigm, mes braves, (if not jumped the shark) and I am off to the Land of Nod in my winceyette PJs to muse upon the king my brother’s wreck (poetry).

    290. cearc says:

      the nights are fair drawing in now. It’s nearly dark here already.

    291. Smallaxe says:

      On a winter evening round behind the gashouse, Tinto?

      Bob Dylan:”Ballad Of Donald White”; (1962 Gaslight Cafe)

      Night Night!

    292. Thepnr says:


      Twilight not dark 🙂

    293. Smallaxe says:


      I beg to differ but I prefer “the gloaming”.

      Radiohead:”The Gloaming From the Basement”

    294. hackalumpoff says:

      @ Tinto re, Winceyette PJs.

      I swear I saw a Wincyette Mankini in ASDA’s earlier today.

      But this chiel takes the biscuits, cake etc.

      Beware the Sabbath and keep it holy, ye have been warned.

    295. Smallaxe says:


      Remeber, crack kills!

    296. hackalumpoff says:

      As the actor said to the Bishop, “it’s sore but I need the money”

    297. Smallaxe says:

      The teacher said to me “name two pronouns” I said “who, me?”

      Good night, All.

      Sweet dreams;

    298. CameronB Brodie says:

      Re. FunkoPop eyes. The toy manufacturers are simply trying to relate to their target market. 🙂

      The Long Term Effects of Methylphenidate (Ritalin) Use

    299. CameronB Brodie says:

      @JK Rowling
      Sorry but your outlook really is unforgivable given your history. Have you no humility?

      Securing disunion: Young people’s nationalism, identities and (in)securities in the campaign for an independent Scotland


      • Security is theorised as embodied, emotional, intimate and multi-scalar.

      • Religious and ethnic minority youth experience multiple securitizing processes that shape subjectivity.

      • Young people’s (in)securities are integral to understanding global and national securities.

      • Uses concept of ontological security to Integrate feminist geopolitics, international relations and children’s geography.

      • Referendum politics as a research site to explore the geographies of security.


      This paper explores ethnic and religious minority youth perspectives of security and nationalism in Scotland during the independence campaign in 2014. We discuss how young people co-construct narratives of Scottish nationalism alongside minority ethnic and faith identities in order to feel secure. By critically combining literature from feminist geopolitics, international relations (IR) and children’s emotional geographies, we employ the concept of ‘ontological security’. The paper departs from state-centric approaches to security to explore the relational entanglements between geopolitical discourses and the ontological security of young people living through a moment of political change.

      We examine how everyday encounters with difference can reflect broader geopolitical narratives of security and insecurity, which subsequently trouble notions of ‘multicultural nationalism’ in Scotland and demonstrate ways that youth ‘securitize the self’ (Kinnvall, 2004). The paper responds to calls for empirical analyses of youth perspectives on nationalism and security (Benwell, 2016) and on the nexus between security and emotional subjectivity in critical geopolitics (Pain, 2009, Shaw et al., 2014). Funded by the Arts and Humanities Research Council (AHRC), this paper draws on focus group and interview data from 382 ethnic and religious minority young people in Scotland collected over the 12-month period of the campaign.

      Nationalism, Young people, Race and ethnicity, Ontological security, Everyday geopolitics

    300. cearc says:

      Nope, it was almost dark. A very, dark indigo sky. Definitely not light but not quite totally dark.

      The gloaming or dim are northern (from nordic) words for the time when the sun is set but it is light. It was not light.

      Twilight the same but is a more southern word for the same but rather more fleeting phenomena and could at a stretch encompass it. Equatorial regions have no words for it as it doesn’t exist.

    301. Tinto Chiel says:


      Those minions are too bright, man. I prefer this:

      Hackalumpoff: amazing footage that of my estranged brother, that. Dances to a different drum, as my granny used to say afore spitting into the grate.

      Must pop in to Asda later.

    302. Smallaxe says:


      Try taking off your sunglasses. #specsavers

      Tinto, too bright, man? Try this;

    303. CameronB Brodie says:

      Morning Smallaxe, though I’m not sure if I should encourage you. 😉

    304. Tinto Chiel says:

      In the summer I miss this:

      In the winter I miss the sun.

      Seh lavee as you say, Smallaxe

    305. Smallaxe says:

      Good morning, Cameron.

      Encouragement, who needs it? “Will You”;

    306. Smallaxe says:

      Don’t worry, Tinto,

      “It’s Just the Sun”

    307. CameronB Brodie says:

      Re. the reaction of many Scots to England’s win. Given the political power differential the Union maintains between the nations, it is only natural that those who feel oppressed have no love for their perceived oppressor.

      Emotions about Emotions


      This article discusses the importance of metaemotions (emotions about emotions), showing their undeniable existence and how they are a critical and essential part of emotion life. The article begins by placing reflexivity of emotions within the general reflexivity of human beings. Then, the article presents the literature on metaemotion, showing some of the problems that surround them, which ultimately will lead to ask if the concept of metaemotion is really necessary. The second part of the article argues for the usefulness of the concept, pointing out its role in establishing distinctions among emotional states as well as further clarifying the nature of emotion, and concludes on pointing out some of the directions for future research on metaemotions.

      Researching Emotional Reflexivity

      Rethinking Masculinity Studies: Feminism, Masculinity, and Poststructural Accounts of Agency and Emotional Reflexivity

    308. CameronB Brodie says:

      And now for a bit of feminist theorising. Sterile nationalism? It’s all boils down to epistemology, frankly.

      Introduction: Feminist and postcolonial: Challenging knowledge


      This article charts a partial and situated engagement with some of the debates about the development of feminist and postcolonial theory. It looks at the importance of maintaining an engagement with both these perspectives in contemporary struggles around knowledge/politics in the (British) academy. In addition it discusses the ways in which the conjunction of feminist with postcolonial provides impetus for new methodological agendas in future research and practice.

      Why feminism: Reflections on the multiple meanings of doing gender studies

      Border thinking and disidentification: Postcolonial and postsocialist feminist dialogues

    309. Cactus says:

      Evening, ye otta see the state of Bridgeton and surrounds (Glasgow)… they got all their union, rhol and other assorted flags up.

      There’s a picture of an auld woman wearing a crown on many of their banners (is it Arlene mibbies) Any keen photographers would have a field day here, with all the various mugs on display!

      THAT plus their overhead road banners which says… “Naw Surrender”… surrender ye say.. who frae.. yous are the only ones fighting… wae yersels like.

      ps they’ve also painted the kerbside RWnB, feels like Larhall.

      The Seven Ways bar is like a zombieland…

      Double-tap em Wichita Jesse. 😉

    310. Cactus says:


      rhol should be rhoulster fry (as u ken).
      Larhall should be Larkhall (nae larkin’ mind).

      Mon Croatia!

    311. Smallaxe says:


      Check the back seat.
      Remember, it’s,

      “For Whom the Bell Tolls”

    312. CameronB Brodie says:

      I just played that after having to stop it and pop out for a minute. This site must really have some reach, as I was now presented with a Scottish themed introduction add that had been placed during that minute. Not the first time it’s happened.

    313. CameronB Brodie says:

      “You are all Philistines.”

      Excuse me, I’m a Samaritan. 🙂

    314. Smallaxe says:

      @ 9:01 pm: You’re on The List!
      @ 9:19 pm: You are a person of interest;

      Btw, I’m not a philistine either, I’m a Capricorn!

    315. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Smallaxe.

      That Metallica “For Whom The Bell Tolls” was on the first Metallica album I purchased.

      Do you remember this “For Whom The Bell Tolls”?

      I think that was a follow-up single to the absolute classic, which was covered by “39 Lyon Street”, aka Billy Mackenzie.

      And as an addendum…
      A single appeared around the same time, by “The Moles”. Rumour at the time was that The Moles were actually The Beatles but it came out years later that The Moles were actually Simon Dupree And The Big Sound.

    316. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Onnyhoo, I think it’s that time of the year when we should be subjected to this:-

    317. Smallaxe says:

      Hi Brian,

      I remember the Simon D. version but a bit faster;

      “Kites” a good video with that version, here’s the band;

      We are the Moles, memories, memories. 🙂
      Remastered version.

      You’ve made me feel old, Brian.
      Old who?

    318. CameronB Brodie says:

      I told I’m no Philistine. 🙂

      What is rivalry?

      According to Tyler & Cobbs (2017), a rival group is…

      A highly salient outgroup that poses acute threat to ingroup identity and/or esteem

      What are rivalry points?

      To measure fans’ perceptions of rivalry, we provide our survey respondents with 100 ‘rivalry points’ to allocate across their favorite team’s opponents. We also ask respondents about their feelings and reactions toward rivals, as well as why their favorite team and the teams to which respondents allocate points should be considered rivals.

      See the About page for a more thorough explanation of rivalry points.

      What sparks a rivalry?

      A thorough explanation can be found in Tyler & Cobbs (2015), but in short, there are 11 main antecedents that can be grouped into three categories: Conflict, Peer, and Bias….

    319. Dave McEwan Hill says:

      Got a good joke which I feel I have to pass on.

      Wee boy in McDonalds choking on his chicken burger. Mum slapping him on the back to no avail. Wee boy going blue in the face. “Stand back,stand back” says a lady coming over.”I’m a nurse! ” turning the wee boy up and beating him furiously on the back.Wee boy continuing choking and going white.
      Dignified looking gentleman comes over,grabs the wee chap by the testicles and gives them a good stiff squeeze. Wee boy coughs up the burger,clears his throat and starts breathing properly. “Thank God you came over” says mum. “Are you a doctor?
      “No” says the man. “I work for the Inland Revenue!”

    320. CameornB Brodie says:

      I told you…..ppff

    321. Smallaxe says:

      I once revived a lady who had fainted by placing her head between her legs, she revived amazingly quickly. I hadn’t noticed that she had a fag in her mouth.

      “Sweet Dreams”

      Good night everybody.

    322. Chick McGregor says:


      Q: What have you got if you have a cricket ball in one hand and another cricket ball in the other?

      A: The undivided attention of a cricket.

    323. Chick McGregor says:


      George Osborne?

    324. Cactus says:

      Excellent Winger’s all, we have a Metallica theme:

      Lemmy at em.. lemmy are em.

      Megadeth coming next…

      Ur choice Smallaxe.

      Peace always x.

    325. Cactus says:

      Hehe, did you just hear that on LBC radio (mental caller!)

      Radio caller drives around with a hammer in his car.

      Ready to use…

      Say what?


    326. Cactus says:

      Don’t mind if aye do Smallaxe:

      This is where Theresa and the Tories are at:

      Headphones are mandatory.

      On Devo Vevo.

    327. Cactus says:

      Remember this one Wingers…

      Choose your ‘Hangar2018’: 😉

      You can never see too much.

    328. Cactus says:

      Bringin’ it back, “bring it back”, returning, go with me hehe 🙂

      Just incase you ain’t all seen it yet…:

      18 CERT WARNING, it’s S&M.

      Fun fun fun.


    329. Cactus says:

      Aye, and may aye just say…

      SCOTLAND!!! (ENLARGED to at least INFINITY.)

      Ye ken like aye.

      V soon now.

    330. Smallaxe says:

      You lot are all mental, It’s a bad day when I’m the sensible one!

      “Good Day Sunshine”

      Good morning, Wingers.

    331. Tinto Chiel says:

      Morning, mon vieux haricot.

      It’s Sunday morning and I’m ironing already. Mrs TC has just bought me a new turbo steamer and it’s performing swimmingly.

      Meanwhile, in other news: Croatia is a nice place and has a good football team.

    332. Smallaxe says:


      We’ll be leaving shortly for destinations unknown. Ironing done!
      Lynyrd Skynyrd:”Travellin’ Man”;

    333. Tinto Chiel says:

      That’s a strange coincidence: me too.


    334. CameronB Brodie says:

      Re. Dr. Philippa Whitford’s article in today’s National. Addressing poor health requires an holistic approach which addresses the causes of illness, as well as the effects. Possessing agency is a fundamental requirement of human well-being and illness prevention. Agency provides the potential to change individual and institutional policy and practice, so as to bring about better health outcomes.

      The determinants of health: structure, context and agency


      The concept of social structure is one of the main building blocks of the social sciences, but it lacks any precise technical definition within general sociological theory. This paper reviews the way in which the concept has been deployed within medical sociology, arguing that in recent times it has been used primarily as a frame for the sociological interpretation of health inequalities and their social determinants. It goes on to examine the contribution that medical sociologists have made to the debate over health inequalities, giving particular attention to contributions to Sociology of Health and Illness. These have often provided a focus for discussions outside or critical of the mainstream debates that have been driven primarily by epidemiologists.

      The paper reviews some of the main points of criticism of epidemiological approaches, focusing in particular on the methodological constraints that limit the capacity of epidemiologists to develop more theoretically satisfactory
      accounts of the inter-relationships of social structure, context and agency in their impact on health and well being. Some recent examples from the Journal of more theoretically innovative and analytically fine-grained approaches to understanding the impact of social structure on health are then explored. The paper concludes with an argument for a more historically-informed analysis of the relationships between social structure and health, using the knowledgeable narratives of people in places as a window onto those relationships.

      Structure, Agency and Power in Political Analysis: Beyond Contextualised Self-Interpretations

      Health and social change
      A critical theory

    335. CameronB Brodie says:

      Without self-determination, Scots culture has no long-term future, IMHO, due to the overwhelming influence of English culture (see Brexit, for example).

      N.B. Culture shapes the economy.

      Gene – culture coevolution and the nature of human sociality

      Human characteristics are the product of gene – culture coevolution, which is an evolutionary dynamic involving the interaction of genes and culture over long time periods. Gene – culture coevolution is a special case of niche construction. Gene – culture coevolution is responsible for human other-regarding preferences, a taste for fairness, the capacity to empathize and salience of morality and character virtues.

      gene – culture coevolution; sociobiology; epistatic information transfer

      A General Overview of Bandura’s Social Cognitive Theory


      This paper explores a comprehensive overview about Dr. Albert Bandura and his social cognitive theory. Many psychologists consider Bandura to be the most influential psychologist of modern times. He has been able to break the mold of traditional cognitive theories, creating a theory that combines cognitive, psychosocial, and behavior processing. His theory is broken down into five main concepts including: Learning, Triadic Reciprocal Causation, Human Agency, Self-regulation, and Dysfunctional Behavior. With the focus of plasticity, people have the ability to change who they are as well as change the fingerprint of personality taught from earlier experiences. Using triadic reciprocal causation people have the ability to regulate their lives.

      Human Agency consists of three molds including self-efficacy, proxy agent, and self-regulation through moral agency. With the implementation of external and internal factors, people regulate their behavior from a combination of both cognitive processes and environmental manipulation. From a counseling perspective, social cognitive theory opens additional avenues in helping the client heal. When a client understands who they are is not only determined by uncontrollable forces and situations, this gives hope and the assurance that through agentic perspective, their life can be transformed becoming healthier and happier.

      Keywords: triadic reciprocal causation, human agency, self-regulation, self-efficacy, proxy agent, and moral agency

      CLUB DES BELUGAS – Let’s Go

    336. Cactus says:

      JCHMBoaby, ah’ve yet to read the main article and David Davis is now indeed the weakest link… who is next to fall?

      Here and hear a tune in the mean now-time:

      Higher and higher for Scotland, dreams are made of this.

      Folding you aces… aye the Tories are playing blinds and they’re on the small stack, sowhaddatheydonow, they’ve got to go all-in and try to bluff with a deuce, seven.

      If only they knew, Scotland’s got the pocket rockets, ours to do as we deem necessary upon independence.

      The Tories are royally flushed out.

    337. CameronB Brodie says:

      I see lord Digby Jones likes to deal out a bit of misrepresentation and symbolic violence. Classic, old-school, colonial practice.

      @ Lord Digby Jones
      Oi. Get your facts straight you racist wank!

      Social Dominance Theory: Explorations in the Psychology of Oppression

      Question: What is the difference between capitalism and communism?

      Answer: Under capitalism you have the exploitation of man by man. Under Communism it is just the reverse. (Russian saying)

      Despite impressive gains in the spread of quasi-democratic social practices and respect for human rights witnessed in the past hundred years (e.g., Pinker, 2011), intergroup discrimination, oppression, and violence continue to thrive within every modern social system. Whether one considers the marked discrimination against immigrants in the relatively egalitarian Sweden (Nordenstam & Ringström, 2013; Orange, 2013), the money-dominated elections of post-industrial states (Lessig, 2011), or the unambiguously oppressive dictatorships across the majority of the Arab world, systems of group-based social inequality and domination continue, despite our best efforts, to maintain their grip around the throats of democratic and egalitarian aspirations. While there are certainly vast differences in the degree of
      group-based social inequality across social systems, or across historical epochs within any given society, group-based social inequality appears to be a human universal present in all kinds of societies (see, e.g., Bowles, Smith, and Borgerhoff Mulder, 2010), even in hunter-gatherer communities (e.g., Ames, 2007; Arnold, 1993; Kennett, Winterhalder, Bartruff, & Erlandson 2008).

      Having made this basic observation of the near ubiquity of group-based social inequality, social dominance theory (SDT; Pratto, Sidanius, Stallworth, & Malle, 1994; Sidanius, 1993; Sidanius & Pratto, 1999) argues that many familiar types of group-based oppression (e.g., racism, sexism, nationalism, classism, religious intolerance, hostility toward the mentally ill) are essentially particular instantiations of a more general process through which dominant groups establish and maintain social, economic, and military supremacy over subordinate groups. Therefore, it is suggested that specific instantiations of oppression across social contexts cannot be comprehensively understood without serious consideration of the dynamic and multileveled forces producing and sustaining the phenomenon of group-based social hierarchy.

    338. Cactus says:

      Mornin’ Cameron, here’s a classic old-school cover for ye bro:

      It’s the Tories farewell theme tune… wave at their politicians. 🙂

      The Tory UKBREXIT chain-link has come apart.

      Anyone for some quickening?

      New baws please.

    339. CameronB Brodie says:


    340. Tinto Chiel says:

      Herey’are, Cactus:

      Good morning, soffisticates. Seems we are one brazil nut short of a fruit and nut cabinet this morning.

    341. cearc says:

      We have a new nut Tinto, it’s….. Raab C Brexit.

      (credit )

    342. Dave McEwan Hill says:

      cearc at 10.49


    343. Tinto Chiel says:

      As Dave said, Raab C Brexit is inspired 😛 .

      Serious question, cearc (asking for a friend): do you know the plant known in Gaelic as lus nan laugh and what would you call it in English?

      Fanx and oblige TC.

    344. Tinto Chiel says:

      “laogh”: damn autofill!

    345. CameronB Brodie says:

      @Nesrine Malik c/o the Guardian
      Wind your neck in please.

      The Teaching of Patriotism and Human Rights: An uneasy entanglement and the contribution of critical pedagogy


      This article examines the moral, political and pedagogical tensions that are created from the entanglement of patriotism and human rights, and sketches a response to these tensions in the context of critical education. The article begins with a brief review of different forms of patriotism, especially as those relate to human rights, and explains why some of these forms may be morally or politically valuable. Then, it offers a brief overview of human rights critiques, especially from the perspectives of Foucault, critical legal studies and postcolonial theory, and emphasizes that foundationalist perspectives of human rights need to be constantly contested. The next part of the article discusses how to overcome issues of incompatibility between patriotism and human rights. The final part proposes that a ‘rapprochement’ between patriotism and human rights in the context of critical education has to take into consideration that patriotic feelings (as a form of love for one’s country) constitute a particular form of ‘emotional education’. As such, the teaching of both patriotism and human rights would benefit from the notion of ‘critical pedagogies of emotion’ that interrogates the emotional commitments of patriotism and human rights and the consequences of these commitments.

      Nationalism, Patriotism, and Group Loyalty: A Social Psychological Perspective

      The purpose of this essay is to introduce the reader to a social psychological perspective on the roots of nationalism. At its heart is the description of how individuals develop feelings about and attachments to groups-how they build loyalty to groups. The review explores how such loyalty can lead to hostile reactions to other groups, can become translated into stereotypes that are shared by individuals, can shape the collective behavior of groups, and can help differentiate the multiple groups that define any political environment.

      Authoritarianism and National Identity: Examining the Longitudinal Effects of SDO and RWA on Nationalism and Patriotism


      The resurgence of right-wing political parties across the globe raises questions about the origins of national identity. Based on the Dual Process Model of Ideology and Prejudice, we argue that people’s tendency to submit to ingroup authorities (Right-Wing Authoritarianism [RWA]) and preference for group-based hierarchy (Social Dominance Orientation [SDO]) underlie people’s belief in the superiority of their nation (nationalism) and attachment to their homeland (patriotism). We examine these hypotheses using three waves of data from an annually conducted national longitudinal panel study of New Zealanders (N = 3,838). As predicted, RWA had positive cross-lagged effects on nationalism and patriotism. Conversely, SDO had a positive cross-lagged effect on nationalism, but a negative cross-lagged effect on patriotism. Little evidence of reciprocal cross-lagged effects (i.e., national identity on authoritarianism) was found. These results demonstrate that nationalism and patriotism are related, albeit distinct, ways of identifying with one’s nation that are ultimately rooted in authoritarianism.

    346. cearc says:


    347. Thepnr says:

      Just watched this video from Nicola Sturgeon in London last Friday at the Future Fest conference and was blown away by it.

      Absolutely brilliant speech that can’t fail to impress with it’s vision. Her presentation of it was brilliant as well.

      Can’t really say more than that, so take 20 minutes out and just watch it. I have no doubt you won’t regret it. This is the kind of governance and progressive vision I’d be most happy to have in an Independent Scotland.

      All joined up thinking wonderfully explained, I used to think Nicola Sturgeon was a bit of a genius now I’m certain she is.

    348. Tinto Chiel says:

      cearc: thanks very much. I was talking to the First Lady of Wings about the Gaelic name, which is sometimes used for opposite-leaved golden saxifrage or even orpine but in Lewis esp. it means bogbean, which has a lot of healing properties.

      @Thepnr: yes, a great speech and in my faves now. I can’t imagine any other politician in the Britnat parties being able to give such a performance. No wonder they hate her.

    349. Cactus says:

      Afternoon Tinto, thx for the quickening (in orchestra) 🙂

      Many Thx:
      (independence will sound like this…)

      The Audience is Listening.

      I wonder what will happen the day after tomorrow?

    350. Cactus says:

      Cheerio BoJo a go-go ha ha ha ha ha!

      Here’s one for you former Foreigner Secretary:

      What a Scottish Summer 2018!

    351. CameronB Brodie says:

      Re. the resignation of the Foreign Secretary and the other Brexit clowns.

      Political Religion: a Concept and its Limitations


      This article presents political religion as a concept for studying Communism, Fascism and National Socialism, which display significant elements of traditional religion, such as rites of purgation, penitence and renewal, cultic patterns of behaviour, and heresy. It then considers the history of the concept, paying particular attention to the light thrown on the phenomenon by the analysis of Nazism offered by the writer Franz Werfel in 1932. This argued that the roots of its appeal lay in the solution it seemed to offer to the contemporary socio?political crisis of Weimar, which was widely experienced as a personal crisis of meaning and identity. For believers this imparted a redemptive, religious aura to the entire Nazi movement. Finally, it questions the legitimacy of ‘political religion’ as a concept, asking whether it can truly be used to explain or illuminate political phenomena without distorting the basic idea of religion in the process.

    352. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Thepnr.

      Is this the video link you meant to paste?

    353. Thepnr says:

      @Brian Doonthetoon

      Holy shit! How did I manage to do that? I’d watched that other video earlier. Oh dear thanks for sorting it out. What a bummer, note to self check links after posting just in case LOL.

      Cheers Brian and well spotted, great video too.

    354. CameronB Brodie says:

      Wow, the First Manager speaks ma lingo. 🙂

      Sustainable development: A critical review


      Over the past few years, “Sustainable Development” (SD) has emerged as the latest development catchphrase. A wide range of nongovernmental as well as governmental organizations have embraced it as the new paradigm of development. A review of the literature that has sprung up around the concept of SD indicates, however, a lack of consistency in its interpretation. More important, while the all-encompassing nature of the concept gives it political strength, its current formulation by the mainstream of SD thinking contains significant weaknesses. These include an incomplete perception of the problems of poverty and environmental degradation, and confusion about the role of economic growth and about the concepts of sustainability and participation. How these weaknesses can lead to inadequacies and contradictions in policy making is demonstrated in the context of international trade, agriculture, and forestry. It is suggested that if SD is to have a fundamental impact, politically expedient fuzziness will have to be given up in favor of intellectual clarity and rigor.

      Data-driven Innovation for Growth and Well-being
      What Implications for Governments and Businesses?

      Integrated Approaches to Sustainable Development Planning and Implementation

    355. CameronB Brodie says:

      First Manager First Minister

      Must still be dreaming of Gareth. 🙂

    356. Tinto Chiel says:

      My pleasure, Cactus.

      Your music clip should be called “Ready for take-off, Scotland!”

      The count down to escape velocity has begun…

      @hackalumpoff: duly signed, mon vieux haricot.

    357. CameronB Brodie says:

      Seeing as how Scotland is the junior partner in a union of equals, here’s one celebrating the emancipation of miners. 😉

      The Avalanches – Since I Left You

    358. Cactus says:

      Ahm ready Tinto, countdown to take-off…:

      Makes me think of this aussi:

      Ridin’ thru the knight ahm aye.

      Freeplay JBox.

    359. Cactus says:

      Launching ships (port/starboard entry-side):

      Do ye reckon we’ll do that with all of the pleasure-cruise ships that we build on the Clyde, or will we launch em, stern leading into the water, upon independence.

      Westminster is in a state, of EMERGENCY.

      Hey there Peoples of Europe…

      See you soon xx.

    360. Tinto Chiel says:

      I’m with you, Cactus.

      Have my Dan Dare* SE space suit on, ready for blast off.

      We ain’t gonna pay no toll.


      *1950s reference for the oldsters on here.

    361. Cactus says:

      Convoy onwards to Inverness on the 28th, 10-4 Tinto trucker. 😉

      Aye aye was thinking Chris Cairns, ye know how you now have a Cairnstoon character for each of the countries of this disunited kin… consider howsabout a new character to represent the Peoples of the “EU”.

      Maybes a sea star of some making. 🙂

      You may have seen this here, before, give or take a year.

      Dedications to the Peoples of the EU and Scotland:

      A bit like a sunflower sea star.

      Take us to the stars.

    362. Cactus says:

      Or a 27-sided astral star, would that be a icosakaiheptagon?

      Lullaby on harp.

      She could be called ‘Eula’ hehe.

    363. Smallaxe says:

      For Sunday:
      “I had a friend who had friends by a river
      They too had friends who had friends of their own
      All seated round takin’ port after dinner,
      Port that was bought by the friends that were known”
      For Today:
      Melanie:”Lay Down;
      “So raise the candles high
      ‘Cause if you don’t we could stay black against the sky
      Oh, raise them higher again
      And if you do we could stay dry against the rain”

    364. Smallaxe says:

      Shoot that old lady down!

      Shoot her again, Joe. She leads the”War Pigs”;

      “Politicians hide themselves away
      They only started the war
      Why should they go out to fight?
      They leave that role to the poor”

      No more, No more!
      “If I stayed here with you, girl
      Things just couldn’t be the same
      Cause I’m as free as a bird now
      And this bird you can not change”


    365. Tinto Chiel says:

      I don’t think I’ve heard that Arrival track since its release, Smallaxe. Great stuff. Seems one of the singers was Christine McVey of Fleetwood Mac fame?

      You’re canoodling with the wrong girl anyhow, and just wait till Mrs Smallaxe finds out:

      Dull here but probably hot later, as is the Scottish way. Today I am mainly eating beef links for brekker. I use the Tinto method: bake ’em for 20 @ 180 with a tater waffle. I top that off with a poached egg. Keeps me going ’til elevenses.

      And oblige,

      Rab Ha’

    366. Smallaxe says:


      I was just playing some music to cheer myself up after a great disappointment last evening that I could not attend an important paramilitary meeting as I couldn’t find my woggle.

      Scouting For Girls:”This Ain’t a Love Song”;

    367. Smallaxe says:

      @ Rab Ha’,

      Do yourself a favour and eat a proper breakfast, a la Mrs Beaton;
      Broiled fish, such as mackerel, whiting, herrings, dried haddocks, &c.; mutton chops and rump-steaks, broiled sheep’s kidneys, kidneys à la maître d’hôtel, sausages, plain rashers of bacon, bacon and poached eggs, ham and poached eggs, omelets, plain boiled eggs, oeufs-au-plat, poached eggs on toast, muffins, toast, marmalade, butter, &c. &c.

      Dead Sexy, soanitis!

    368. Fred says:

      Don’t forget the toilet roll!

    369. cearc says:

      Wot, no kedgeree?

      Slumming it!

    370. Tinto Chiel says:

      Nice bit of anti-Jock propaganda in that video, like Shrek and the alky scot in The Archers (aka Yokels and Toffs Do Farming).

      That Desperate Dan breakfast was worthy of Dr Johnson, Smallaxe, although it lacked the huge amounts of alcohol he quaffed.

      Getting quite hungry now…

    371. Cactus says:

      Thinking back for a toon to represent the good Peoples of Europe.

      Mibbies ‘Eula’ could be a unicorn… with the staff of freedom.

      After all the Westminster chains are SO breaking.

      Aussi, ye know how when all of those nasty Spanish matadors/picadors etc entertain themselves, by ruthlessly abusing and killing innocent animals… but sometimes the beastie gets the upper hand and impales the ‘coco-banjo’ up their arse…

      It would be most-fitting to see Eula the unicorn doing the same to John Bull and the excruciating look of pain on ee’s face 🙂

      Take that!

    372. Cactus says:

      Ah was thinkin’ as well… see how like when like why when what where the Tory gov/politicians appear to be going down the plughole like in ‘Flushed Away’ (good character Rita, Kate btw.)

      Makes ye wonder if it’ll have any detrimental effect on their footballers in Russia ra morra…?


    373. Cactus says:

      ~ Eula versus John Bull ~

      Get in the ring, they called.

      In the voice of Paul Hogan…

      “Is that a horse, or a unicorn…?

      …WOH, get outta here, streuth davidson!”

    374. David says:

      Brexit Minister David Davis has left to join a band:
      DExEu’s Midnight Runners
      (Found that on Twitter.)

      Hello Tinto, and yes I am in that place you mention – say no more squire, no names no pack drill, a nod’s as good as a wink. 😉
      Some benefits to being here: no BBC tv, and no Oranga Order walks. Very relaxing!

    375. Tinto Chiel says:

      David: message received and understood.

      “Jean has a long moustache.”

      “There is a fire at the insurance office.”

      I append a cryptic clip:

      That is all 😛 .

    376. CameronB Brodie says:

      @Dr. Azeem Ibrahim
      Are you a genuine an academic, as your agenda appears a tad anti-democratic?

      The right to self-determination in international politics: six theories in search of a policy


      The principle of the self-determination of peoples is enshrined in the United Nations Charter and based on liberal and democratic values. However, the international community has, until recently, interpreted this principle very restrictively, so that it has amounted to little more than the right to be free from European colonialism. The collapse of the USSR and Yugoslavia, as well as persistent ethno-nationalist conflicts around the world, have provoked new thinking about the right of self-determination in political theory. This article reviews six theories, and identifies what they have in common and on what they differ. It draws some cautious policy conclusions from this analysis and, in doing so, seeks to clarify the role and limits of theory in international politics.

      Agency and social structure in Human Factors:
      A critical realist approach

      Searching for realism, structure and agency in Actor Network Theory

    377. CameronB Brodie says:

      @Dr. Azeem Ibrahim
      You might want to reconsider your position.

      Self?Determination Theory
      An Introduction and Overview

      Self-determination theory (SDT) is an empirically based, organismic theory of human behavior and personality development. SDT’s analysis is focused primarily at the psychological level, and it differentiates types of motivation along a continuum from controlled to autonomous. The theory is particularly concerned with how social-contextual factors support or thwart people’s thriving through the satisfaction of their basic psychological needs for competence, relatedness, and autonomy. Although the theory is psychological, research has also given attention to biological underpinnings of these psychological processes and places them in an evolutionary perspective. In this chapter we provide an overview of what appears in the chapters that follow, including a layout of SDT’s six mini-theories; a discussion of a range of phenomena related to human development; an argument for the theory’sapplicability to real-life domains such as education, health care, work, psychotherapy, sport, and virtual worlds; and a consideration of social, political, and cultural factors that influence motivations and basic need satisfactions.

      Development of Self-Determination Through the Life-Course

      Self and Self-Esteem

    378. CameronB Brodie says:

      From the perspective of Critical Sociology and Critical Realism, it appears that Dr. Azeem Ibrahim may have come in contact with a nasty strain of chauvinism virus, commonly known as British nationalism.

      The Cultural Politics of Everyday Discourse: The Case of “Male Chauvinist”


      The spread of the term “male chauvinist,” coined in the United States around 1934, reveals the crucial work done in a social movement — in this case the second wave of American feminism — by what we call “everyday activists.” Everyday activists may not interact with the world of formal politics, but they take actions in their own lives to redress injustices that a contemporary social movement has made salient. The interplay between organized and everyday activists creates an evolutionary dynamic of “organized activist variation” and “everyday activist selection.” Organized activists in tightly-knit and protected enclaves (such as those in the American Communist Party in the 1930s or the feminist movement in the late 1960s) produce a cornucopia of counter-hegemonic concepts. Everyday activists then select the concepts they will use, primarily for the purpose of persuasion, in everyday talk.

      A Critical Analysis of the Self?determination of Peoples: A Cosmopolitan Perspective

      Inventing Agency
      Essays on the Literary and Philosophical Production of the Modern Subject

    379. CameronB Brodie says:

      Is intellectual honesty too much to hope for, from British nationalists? Without honesty, political discourse is pointless as no truth will be revealed.

      Kamasi Washington – Truth

    380. Smallaxe says:

      John has a long moustache/no BBC tv, and no Oranga Order walks. Very relaxing!



    381. Cameron Brodie says:

      So true mate. The struggle for truth seems unending but the means to justice are in sight.

      P.S. Apologies to all accountants. 😉

    382. CameronB Brodie says:

      In response to Alexia, on the Rev.’s twitter. As a supporter of Scottish self-determination in 2018, I feel I’m becoming less of a social deviant, as the direction of travel in UK politics seems to be in our favour, despite everything. 😉

      Schram, Introduction to Criminology
      Chapter 11: Labeling Theory and Conflict/Marxist/Radical Theories of Crime

      This chapter begins with the discussion of labeling theory. Labeling theory came to the forefront during a time when various assumptions concerning societal authority were being questioned and reexamined. Labeling theory is not overly concerned with the questions as to why an individual engages in deviant behavior. Instead, the theorists argued that it is important to understand how criminal, or deviant, behavior is defined or labeled as well as how society reacts to this behavior. The basic assumptions of labeling theory include the following: no act is intrinsically criminal; criminal definitions are enforced in the interest of the powerful; a person does not become a criminal by violating the law; the practice of dichotomizing individuals into criminal and non-criminal groups is contrary to common sense and research; only a few people are caught in violating the law even though many individuals may be equally guilty; while the sanctions used in law enforcement are directed against the individual and not just the criminal act, the penalties for such an act vary according to the characteristics of the offender; criminal sanctions also vary according to other characteristics of the offender; criminal justice is founded on a stereotyped conception of the criminal as a pariah; and confronted by public condemnation and the label of an evil man, it may be difficult for an offender to maintain a favorable image of himself….


      Policy Implications of Contemporary Labeling Theory Research

      Sorry, I’ll put my beetroot down.

      Kamasi Washington – Street Fighter Mas

    383. CameronB Brodie says:

      Some would probably label me an SJW. I’m OK with that but I hope folk don’t think me woke.

      Multiculturalism, Gender and Violence


      This article examines the debate between feminism and multiculturalism, critiquing the term multiculturalism by investigating men’s violence against women. It shows that without such a critique the term multiculturalism becomes meaningless, providing a way for government and policy makers to avoid engaging with difficult issues. The position of Muslim women is an intersection of many social justice issues, illustrating the status and treatment of both Muslim and non-Muslim women. Majority community members often erroneously consider men’s violence against women within ethnic minority communities as a part of their religion and culture, while pathologising the same acts of violence as deviant behaviour within their own culture. This dichotomy fails to address violence against women as a universal phenomenon, requiring shared strategies to confront forces of subordination at work in areas such as gender, ‘race’, ethnicity, transnational economic inequalities, ageism, sexism, dis/ability, religious discrimination and homophobia, all of which illustrate intersections of discrimination.

      Btw, gender security issues aren’t confined to matters of biological women’s personal safety. Gender is embodied, emotional, intimate and multi-scalar, meaning gender is a central component of being human, so affects just about every aspect of our daily lives.

      ‘Doing’ Security As Though Humans Matter: A Feminist Perspective on Gender and the Politics of Human Security

      A feminist perspective can make security discourse more reflective of its own normative assumptions. In respect of an expanded human security concept, a feminist perspective highlights the dangers of masking differences under the rubric of the term ‘human’. A critical feminist perspective is geared towards addressing the politics of multiple overlapping identities. Since gender is intertwined with other identities such as race, class and nationality, the dichotomy between universalism and cultural relativism is overcome by connecting individual experiences in a particular location to wider regional and global structures and processes. An overview of a number of feminist and security-studies schools of thought reveals the extent of universalizing tendencies and gender silences within such discourses. The conceptual and political commensurability of the gender and security constructs is often overlooked. An emphasis on identity politics may thus help to clarify the ambivalence of human security as both a political project of emancipation and an analytical framework. A case is therefore made for more fluid context-based interpretations of gender in human security. In this regard it is posited that alternative feminist approaches, such as those rooted in the African context, could facilitate dialogue within and across supposedly irreconcilable standpoints.

      human security • gender • identity politics • Africa • feminism • interparadigm dialogue

      Does that Hothersall chap still think his British nationalism is progressive? Silly man.

      Question Mark & the Mysterians – Don’t Give It Up Now

    384. CameronB Brodie says:

      Gender Security is embodied, emotional, intimate and multi-scalar, …

    385. Tinto Chiel says:

      Have a great day, Smallaxe and a very happy, sunny birthday to your Precious One.

      Just don’t eat too much ice-cream and jelly before going on the slides or playing in the ball-pit……

    386. Fred says:

      Well, that’s it!

    387. Cactus says:

      Well played Croatia, best wishes in the final.

      The BBC commentators jinxed it, when referring to Croatia earlier in the soccer cup, they said:

      Quote “They’ve got a couple of Wingers in there”.

      Go Croatia!

      See Wings is a place of adult content + more.

      It’s good to be independent. 🙂

      Note: None of my previous sweary words were directed directly at any posters. It fair gets the fire in yer belly goin’ though like.


    388. Cactus says:

      Hey, ahm back HOME somewhere east coast of Scotland.

      Watchin’ the fitba highlights… 2-1 pile on!

      Croatia for the cup.

    389. Cactus says:

      Hey football fans of England…

      See when Scotland voted no to being an independent country back in ’14.

      Now you know how it feels.

      We’ve hosting indref2 🙂

    390. Cactus says:

      We’re hosting indyref2, yes we are.

      Black versus White:

      Black WINS.

    391. Cactus says:

      Courtesy of Devo Vevo Max:

      Black or White?

      Ask Michael.

      He he.

    392. Cactus says:

      Topical like, show me the way to go home…

      Ahm comin’, ahm comin’ for ma head is bending low…

      Brexit is Jaws.

    393. Smallaxe says:

      Dear Mrs Tinto Chiel,

      Many thanks for your very kind felicitations on the occasion of my granddaughters birthday celebrations, we adults had a simply spiffing time in the ball pit with lashings and lashings of Ginger beer;

      The kids these days don’t know how to enjoy themselves, they all boringly stayed indoors probably playing computer games or something similar;
      I do wish that todays kids would realise that they could be anything that they want to be;
      Kids, eh!

    394. Smallaxe says:


      You’re right, black wins!
      No need to run and hide.

    395. Tinto Chiel says:

      Glad you had a great time yesterday. Coming back from Peebles my clutch went, like Frank Haffey, so had to be AA’ed to a local garage.

      “We twa shall paidle i’ the Tweed fae morning sun till dine” one day.

      But you can call me Samantha.

    396. Smallaxe says:


      And there’s a hand, my trusty fere!
      And gie’s a hand o’ thine!

      You can call me Sebastian

    397. Tinto Chiel says:

      Fairy Nuff.

      Used to watch this when I was a nipper. Got the boxed set a wee while ago but there’s nothing on YouTube but this, chiz, chiz.

      P.S. you’re standing on my corn.

    398. Smallaxe says:


      Back soon!

    399. Tinto Chiel says:

      Me too but having been musing so deeply I came upon this in my old gander-bag of delights. You can’t go deeper than this imo:

      Chew on that, filosifers.

    400. Fred says:

      Well done Croatia! I thought Turmeric was outstanding!

    401. CameronB Brodie says:

      OK. Here’s one to celebrate the rise in street prostitution and criminal activity that Brexit will undoubtedly stimulate.

      Cage The Elephant – Ain’t No Rest For The Wicked

      Nostalgia can be a powerful force for mobilising political sentiment. Why do you think the TV is jam pack with period pieces and even entire channels dedicated to nostalgia? The power of nostalgia is partly why British nationalism has a tendency to look backwards, recreating and repackaging a British identity that never was.

      What Do We Talk About When We Talk About Media and Nostalgia?

      Nostalgia is often understood as a syndrome and a therapeutic mechanism for healing traumatic past experiences, a retrospective utopia of safety and stability, or a revisionist project of rewriting history in a more user-friendly and appealing way. The literature also highlights different uses of nostalgic sentiments, such as their commercial and aesthetic applications, affective nature, material dimensions, and political relevance, among many others. Previous research has shown that media, popular culture and creative industries are the central platforms for nostalgic productions, which not only allow for creativity but also manipulate users’ attitudes towards the past and induce nostalgia in audiences. Such an abundance of perspectives and theories on nostalgia creates conceptual confusion.

      With this in mind, this essay aims at more clearly elucidating theories on nostalgia. As engagement with broader debates on the role of the media in nostalgic experiences has also been limited, this essay will provide some remarks on the relations between media and nostalgia.

      The End of an Idyllic World: Nostalgia Narratives, Race, and the Construction of White Powerlessness


      We examine the experiences of whites displaced by racial change by focusing on the ways in which nostalgia narratives are used to construct and maintain white racial identity in an era of color-blind discourse. Expanding on the analysis of nostalgia as a tool to create identity in response to a loss in one’s place attachment, we explore how nostalgia is used in constructing and maintaining contemporary forms of whiteness. Based on data from in-depth qualitative interviews, we find that nostalgia narratives are useful in framing white racial identity along the themes of innocence and virtuousness as well as powerless and victimhood. In the shared storytelling of this nostalgic past, whites create a present that plays by color-blind rules, while reproducing, reiterating, and strengthening whiteness.

      collective memory, color-blind ideology, neighborhoods, nostalgia, racial change, whiteness

    402. CameronB Brodie says:


    403. CameronB Brodie says:

      Tinto Chiel
      Chewed and ingested. 😉

      Are There Stages of Realization? – Rupert Spira

    404. Tinto Chiel says:

      Hi, Cameron. Hope you are well, mon vieux.

      I enjoyed Rupert Spira’s gentle thoughts, it struck a few chords with conversations I’ve been having with some good friends recently. I have always thought that ideas about an eternal spirit/consciousness were just human arrogance, a refusal to believe that we must eventually die as the mere animals we are.

      I’m afraid I don’t have the religious gene, so some kind of liberated spirit is all I have after death, unless I accept there is zilch, or, as we sometimes call it, unionism 😛 .

      It’s a puzzler right enough.

    405. CameronB Brodie says:

      I would have thought folk would have sussed I don’t need much encouragement either.

      Mind-body Dualism: A critique from a Health Perspective


      Philosophical theory about the nature of human beings has far reaching consequences on our understanding of various issues faced by them. Once taken as self-evident, it becomes the foundation on which knowledge gets built. The cause of concern is that this theoretical framework rarely gets questioned despite its inherent limitations and self-defeating consequences, leading to crisis in the concerned field. The field, which is facing crisis today, is that of medicine, and the paradigmatic stance that is responsible for the crisis is Cartesian dualism—a view that mind and body are essentially separate entities. This paper discusses Cartesian dualism in the context of the practice of medicine. Focusing more closely on how disease, health and treatment are defined through this position, the paper builds up its critique by throwing light on its accomplishments, limitations and self-defeating consequences. The paper also seeks to understand why this dualism is still alive despite its disavowal from philosophers, health practitioners and lay people.

      Keywords: Mind-Body Dualism, Cartesian Dualism, Cartesian Dualism and Medicine

      Duelling with Dualisms:
      Descartes, Foucault and the History of Organizational Limits

      Rethinking mind-body dualism: a Buddhist take on the mind-body problem

      #neverenoughaxiologicalsignification 😉

    406. CameronB Brodie says:

      Tinto Chiel
      I haven’t an ounce of religiosity in me either. I’m trying to point out a major obstacle to holistic thinking.

    407. Tinto Chiel says:

      @CBB: message received and understood.

    408. CameronB Brodie says:

      Cartesian thinking is a barrier to holistic reasoning, so it represents an obstacle to tackling social problems and achieving social equity.

      Pedagogical tools to explore Cartesian mind-body dualism in the classroom: philosophical arguments and neuroscience illusions


      A fundamental discussion in lower-level undergraduate neuroscience and psychology courses is Descartes’s “radical” or “mind-body” dualism. According to Descartes, our thinking mind, the res cogitans, is separate from the body as physical matter or substance, the res extensa. Since the transmission of sensory stimuli from the body to the mind is a physical capacity shared with animals, it can be confused, misled, or uncertain (e.g., bodily senses imply that ice and water are different substances). True certainty thus arises from within the mind and its capacity to doubt physical stimuli. Since this doubting mind is a thinking thing that is distinct from bodily stimuli, truth and certainty are reached through the doubting mind as cogito ergo sum, or the certainty of itself as it thinks: hence Descartes’s famous maxim, I think, therefore I am. However, in the last century of Western philosophy, with nervous system investigation, and with recent advances in neuroscience, the potential avenues to explore student’s understanding of the epistemology and effects of Cartesian mind-body dualism has expanded.

      This article further explores this expansion, highlighting pedagogical practices and tools instructors can use to enhance a psychology student’s understanding of Cartesian dualistic epistemology, in order to think more critically about its implicit assumptions and effects on learning. It does so in two ways: first, by offering instructors an alternative philosophical perspective to dualistic thinking: a mind-body holism that is antithetical to the assumed binaries of dualistic epistemology. Second, it supplements this philosophical argument with a practical component: simple mind-body illusions that instructors may use to demonstrate contrary epistemologies to students. Combining these short philosophical and neuroscience arguments thereby acts as a pedagogical tool to open new conceptual spaces within which learning may occur.

      Keywords: Descartes, Cartesian dualism, Heidegger, rubber hand illusion, Pinocchio Illusion

      Personal Identity and Mind/Body
      Descartes to Michaels

      Philosophy of Mind
      Mind & Body
      Identity Theory

    409. CameronB Brodie says:

      Sorry for being a space-hog but I’m on a roll again. Multi-seeded. 🙂

      Medicine and Mind-Body Dualism: A Reply to Mehta’s Critique


      Neeta Mehta recently advanced the thesis that medical practice is facing a crisis today. In her paper “Mind-body dualism: a critique from a health perspective” she attributes the crisis to the philosophy of Descartes and set out to understand why this dualism is still alive despite its disavowal from philosophers, health practitioners and lay people. The aim of my reply to her critique is three-fold. First, I draw attention to a more fundamental problem and show that dualism is inescapable—scientifically and commonsensically. I then focus on the self-conscious emotions of shame, guilt and remorse, and argue that the self is not identical with a brain. The third section draws attention to the crisis in psychiatry and stipulates some of the main reasons why this is so. Contrary to Mehta’s thesis, the health profession faces a crisis because of physicalism and biological reductionism.

      Keywords: Biological reductionism, Brain, Dualism, Emotions, Guilt, Medicine, Neuroscience, Psychiatry, Physicalism, Remorse, Self, Shame

      Cartesian dualism and the trans* body

      Transmodernity, border thinking, and global coloniality

      See what I did there. 😉

    410. Cactus says:

      Sittin’ on a beach with fellow fine Scots in Anstruther…

      Laters like.

    411. CameronB Brodie says:

      Sounds chill. 😉

      Groove Armada – Sand dunes and salty air

    412. Cactus says:

      Groovy groove Cameron 🙂

      Here’s some pictures of big moons frae around this world:

      There’s an aroma of fresh crustacean death awe around here.

      Brexit is Jaws.


    413. Cactus says:

      Nice to see the foist lady of the POTUSoA and Theresa (you may not) colour-coding their dresses in coordination, celebration and support of Catalonia and The Jags.

      Hey Theresa…:

      It ain’t a crime to be good to yourself.

      Yeah, yeah.

    414. CameronB Brodie says:

      I really am sorry but as a vulnerable Scot, Brexit is scaring the shit out of me. I support multiculturalism and I’ve never voted Tory (any shade). I also have no desire to become English!

      The Dynamic Moral Self: A Social Psychological Perspective

      When psychologists explore the role of the self in moral motivation and behavior, they typically take a personological approach. Some seek to describe a general personality structure shared by widely recognized moral exemplars, whereas others examine individual differences in the extent to which morality is central to one’s personal goals. A social-psychological approach to the moral self complements these personological perspectives by taking into account the situational malleability of moral self-regard, or one’s self-perceived moral standing at any given moment.

      Recent research reviewed in this chapter demonstrates the value added by this perspective: First, when people are made secure about their morality, they sometimes act less morally (moral credentials); second, moral exemplars are disliked rather than admired when their behavior is seen as an indictment of people’s own choices (moral resentment); and third, people sometimes boost their moral self-regard to compensate for failures in other domains (moral
      compensation). These phenomena underscore the importance of understanding moral self-regard as just one aspect of a highly dynamic self-concept….

      Moral Psychology

      Compassion, Suffering and the Self
      A Moral Psychology of Social Justice

    415. Cactus says:

      Ah caught the start of the Shawshank Redemption earlier le soir afore aye headed out.. SO and in the spirit of the movie…

      I bet you one pack of smokes that Cairnstoon is back on Saturday.

      But whom will be starring?

      Any takers… 😉

      Meet Cairnstoon Hamish:

    416. Cactus says:

      Know what you mean Cameron, things should become a bit clearer (direction-wise for Scotland) in the coming weeks.

      Hehe I’ve found the peeps behind the chok:

      This is funny.

      Novigod!!! 🙂

    417. Cactus says:

      Anyway, enough is enough of that fool-tommery…

      Back to the real medieval rock:

      Beware of Jaws whilst diving.

      Gotta get away…

      Frae the uk.

    418. Cactus says:

      The whole world is my HOME:

      Maybe tomorrow like…


    419. CameronB Brodie says:

      That got me thinking of the kids that just got rescued from the cave. Telt you I was a weirdo. 🙂

      Water, Geopolitics, and Economic Development in the Conceptualization of a Region

      Given the direction of travel that the New Right is driving British nationalism, I thought this might be appropriate mood music for the dastardly duo.

      The Three-Part Harmony of Adult Learning, Critical Thinking, and Decision-Making


      Adult learning, critical thinking, and decision-making are fields that receive attention individually, although they are interspersed with elements of each other’s theories and philosophies. In addressing adult learning precepts, it is essential to include critical thinking and decision-making. One without the other creates weakness; all must be present if learning is to be effective and rewarding. This composition provides subject matter expert definitions of adult learning, critical thinking, and decision-making and then identifies the related elements. The piece also accentuates how those responsible for teaching adults must facilitate the union of adult learning, critical thinking, and decision-making.

      Bit of a mixed bag to reflect the harmony in difference. 😉

      Leftfield – Release The Pressure

    420. Tinto Chiel says:

      Was down at daughter’s hoose last night. She has become addicted to “Hidden”, a gritty police drama set in Welsh Wales with subtitles where necessary. Lovely to hear the ancient language amid all the sex, drugs, sleaze, depravity and beautiful landscapes (thought that might attract some here).

      Think it’s on BBC Caesar!.

      It’s like a rural Welsh Trainspotting without the Hibs fans.

    421. Gary45% says:

      Anyone got a link to the original image of Scotland covered in butterflies, like the one on the cover of this months I-Scot.(without Butterfly Rebellion)
      I found an image a few weeks back and tried to get it printed on a t-shirt, but my printer said the image was too small.

    422. Tinto Chiel says:

      That should be BBC [insert Gaelic name for Scotland] but the Rev’s got a filter for the word.

    423. cearc says:


      Try asking iScot, they obviously have a high quality, ready to print copy.

    424. Cactus says:

      Any kind of UKBrexit will be ‘cliff edge’ (and that’s just the initial dive.)

      Upon impact, it’s also what’s waiting in the waters below…

      Not just Jaws, did you know there’s a pod of hungry Bull Sharks and a large family of red bellied Piranha anticipating the UK’s fall. That’s what the Southern peoples voted for, not us.

      Best stick to the road WITH a higher international power, it’s hip:


    425. Gary45% says:

      Cheers cearc,
      I will give them a shout.

    426. cearc says:


      They can take the low road and we’ll take the high!

    427. CameronB Brodie says:

      Betty Boop
      You commented on the “sliding-out doors” post, concerning the apparent lack of confidence that many Scots exhibit. A lot of that has to do with Scotland’s historical lack of agency, IMHO. Then, of course, there’s the Yoonstream. ;(

      Learning, Remembering, Believing: Enhancing Human Performance

      8 Self-Confidence and Performance

      Self-confidence is considered one of the most influential motivators and regulators of behavior in people’s everyday lives (Bandura, 1986). A growing body of evidence suggests that one’s perception of ability or self-confidence is the central mediating construct of achievement strivings (e.g., Bandura, 1977; Ericsson et al., 1993; Harter, 1978; Kuhl, 1992; Nicholls, 1984). Ericsson and his colleagues have taken the position that the major influence in the acquisition of expert performance is the confidence and motivation to persist in deliberate practice for a minimum of 10 years.

      Self-confidence is not a motivational perspective by itself. It is a judgment about capabilities for accomplishment of some goal, and, therefore, must be considered within a broader conceptualization of motivation that provides the goal context. Kanfer (1990a) provides an example of one cognitively based framework of motivation for such a discussion. She suggests that motivation is composed of two components: goal choice and self-regulation. Self-regulation, in turn, consists of three related sets of activities: self-monitoring, self-evaluation, and self-reactions. Self-monitoring provides information about current performance, which is then evaluated by comparing that performance with one’s goal. The comparison between performance and goal results in two distinct types of self-reactions: self-satisfaction or -dissatisfaction and self-confidence expectations. Satisfaction or dissatisfaction is an affective response to past actions; self-confidence expectations are judgments about one’s future capabilities to attain one’s goal. This framework allows a discussion of self-confidence as it relates to a number of motivational processes, including setting goals and causal attributions….


      Self-Confidence: 9 Essential Ways to Become More Self-Confident

    428. Tinto Chiel says:

      Cameron, I’m sure you’re well aware of this BLiS______d apologist, who still managed to make money out of this knife-twisting nonsense: The Scots’ Crisis of Confidence by Carol Craig.

      As the prince of Denmark said, “Words, words, words…..”

    429. CameronB Brodie says:

      I hadn’t actually, Tinto, thanks. I hope I’m not giving folk the wrong impression. I don’t live politics or social justice and I haven’t looked at this stuff for thirty years. I just have a particular insight and feel a moral obligation to try an share what I think is valuable knowledge.

      The Scots’ Crisis of Confidence

      Carol Craig, is the Centre’s Chief Executive. Her first book The Scots’ Crisis of Confidence was published in 2003. The book attracted considerable press interest and comment. Within a short period of time it was being referred to in speeches and articles from figures in sport, journalism, health, education and from across the political spectrum. It was reprinted several times but from 2009 it was out of print.

      In October 2011 Argyll Publishing have brought out a new edition of the book. Carol has completely rewritten the introduction and the conclusion and brought her argument up to date. She has also included completely new material on ‘mindset’ and optimism.

    430. Tinto Chiel says:

      Thanks, Cameron: was unaware it had been brought up to date. To what effect I, of course, am unaware.

    431. CameronB Brodie says:

      Did I mention Brexit scares the shit out of me?

      Brexit, boundaries and imperial identities: A comparative view


      The year 2016 will be marked as a year in which identity politics reached new levels of significance. Among numerous dramatic events, the UK referendum on membership of the European Union has brought many issues of interest to archaeologists to the fore. These range from entirely contemporary concerns, such as the future of research funding in Britain, to topics of more longitudinal significance, including the interactions between different identity groups in particular economic and political circumstances. In this paper, I wish to explore aspects of the distinctive position of Britain as an illustration of identity dynamics in the long term, focussing on the relationship between imperialism and identities and viewed through the lens of recent work in Border Studies.

      Brexit can be seen as the culmination of the collapse of the British empire, and transformation of British identity, in the post-Second World War era and the particular dynamics of this process invite comparison with Britain’s earlier position as one of the frontier provinces of the Roman empire, especially in the 4th and 5th centuries AD. This comparison reveals two paradoxical dimensions of imperial identities, the first being that so-called ‘peripheries’ can be more important than ‘cores’ in the creation of imperial identities and the second that such identities can be simultaneously ideologically powerful yet practically fragile in the circumstances which follow imperial collapse. Such insights are important because, at a time of apparently resurgent nationalism in many countries, archaeologists need to work harder than ever to understand identity dynamics with the benefit of time depth.

      Keywords Imperialism, identities, border-thinking, European Union, Britishness, Roman archaeology

      Who do you say you are?
      Making sense of national identities in modern Britain

      ‘It Sounds Unwelcoming, It Sounds Exclusive, but I Think It’s Just a Question of Arithmetic Really’: The Limits to White People’s Anti-Essentialist Perspectives on the Nation

    432. CameronB Brodie says:

      Anyone interested in investigating agency and such, through the lens of behavioural science? What about examining agency through a Neo-Meadian approach, which integrates Psychological and Behavioral Science? Or what about a broader examination of how norms affect social behavior?

      Ever asked yourself if the BBC in Scotland has an unspoken agenda?

      1.4 Sources of Resilience
      1.4.2 Agency

      Agency is an umbrella term for the various ways in which people exert personal control over their lives, futures, events, and environments. A behavioral science perspective on resilience must begin and end with the position that individuals are active agents in their own lives. They make plans and behave intentionally to bring about desired outcomes. Human beings do not simply respond passively to rewards and punishments or to larger sociological forces.
      Humans are motivated to adapt, although motivation can be extinguished by prolonged exposure to unresponsive environments or uncontrollable events.

      People with positive views of their own efficacy exert more effort to succeed and are more likely to persist in face of adversity. Agency can be achieved either behaviorally or cognitively (Bandura, 1982). Whereas behavioral control occurs when people take actions that forest all or modify aversive events, cognitive control occurs when people believe they can manage threats, should they arrive.

      The fundamental importance of cognitive control in contemporary psychology has given rise to several specific theoretical frameworks that differ in their nuances and semantics but share much in common at their core. For an understanding of resilience, three of the most important concepts are self-efficacy, optimism, and hope….

      A Neo-Meadian approach to human agency: relating the social and the psychological in the ontogenesis of perspective-coordinating persons

      The Problem of Behaviour Change: From Social Norms to an
      Ingroup Focus

    433. Michael McCabe says:

      A wee bit of late night chill out music. Alexi Murdoch-All My Days

    434. CameronB Brodie says:

      Tinto Chiel
      Just had a quick scan of Carol Craig’s main points. I’m very out of practice and would hate to overstate my expertise, but I found Carol’s analysis a bit lacking, especially the way in which she dismisses Scotland’s lack of political agency.

      Collective action and the evolution of social norm internalization


      Human behavior is strongly affected by culturally transmitted norms and values. Certain norms are internalized (i.e., acting according to a norm becomes an end in itself rather than merely a tool in achieving certain goals or avoiding social sanctions). Humans’ capacity to internalize norms likely evolved in our ancestors to simplify solving certain challenges—including social ones. Here we study theoretically the evolutionary origins of the capacity to internalize norms. In our models, individuals can choose to participate in collective actions as well as punish free riders. In making their decisions, individuals attempt to maximize a utility function in which normative values are initially irrelevant but play an increasingly important role if the ability to internalize norms emerges.

      Using agent-based simulations, we show that norm internalization evolves under a wide range of conditions so that cooperation becomes “instinctive.” Norm internalization evolves much more easily and has much larger effects on behavior if groups promote peer punishment of free riders. Promoting only participation in collective actions is not effective. Typically, intermediate levels of norm internalization are most frequent but there are also cases with relatively small frequencies of “oversocialized” individuals willing to make extreme sacrifices for their groups no matter material costs, as well as “undersocialized” individuals completely immune to social norms. Evolving the ability to internalize norms was likely a crucial step on the path to large-scale human cooperation.

      Internalization: how culture becomes mind


    435. Cactus says:

      Mornin’ cearc, aye, we’ll stick to the high road, the low road is liable to subsidence and collapse due to Theresa (you May not) and the Tories… but we’ll still all be in Scotland, just like afore ye. Sounds like a song:

      Hey frogesque, good on ye bro for flying our flag of Freedom for all of our Scottish drivers, it’s a tonic. 🙂

    436. Cactus says:

      Back to o/t.

      SO in the spirit of friendly competitive sport:

      Mundell is the bag carrier.

      Bow before your Donald.

    437. CameronB Brodie says:

      Getting back to Carol Craig’s main points, I’m not going to attempt an in-depth critical analysis of her interpretation of the influence of Calvinism on Scottish culture, though I felt her’s perhaps lacked context and balance.

      English culture is the dominant culture in the British isles and English culture is historically rooted in Anglicanism. The Tories can’t be separated from the Church of England, so there you go. British nationalism is the articulation of Anglican/Tory ethos and values.

      Political Philosophy


      Conservatism (or conservativism) is any political philosophy that favours tradition (in the sense of various religious, cultural, or nationally-defined beliefs and customs) in the face of external forces for change, and is critical of proposals for radical social change. Some Conservatives seek to preserve the status quo or to reform society slowly, while others seek to return to the values of an earlier time….

      The Conservative Party at Prayer

      On November 14 Alistair Lexden gave an address to members of the Conservative Christian Fellowship. His main theme was the strength and duration of the Party’s close connection with the Church of England which gave rise to the well-known description of the C of E as “ the Conservative Party at prayer”.

      The connection began at the end of the seventeenth century when the Tory Party ( forerunner of today’s Conservatives) came into being. Its watchwords were Church and King, signifying its commitment to the interests of the monarch and of the Anglican Church which had been established in final form in 1660 as the ecclesiastical arm of royal government exercised in association with Parliament.

      The period in which Protestant dissenters and Roman Catholics were actively persecuted with the support of Tory politicians ended in the early eighteenth century, but they continued to be completely excluded from political and public life until the 1820s and posts in universities were barred to them until 1870. A softening of attitudes by the Tories was responsible for the most important legislation, the repeal of the Test and Corporation Acts along with Catholic Emancipation in 1828-9 by the Duke of Wellington’s government, which removed their civil disabilities (Gladstone opened the universities to them in 1870)….

      Cameron, Conservatives and a Christian Britain: A Critical Exploration of Political Discourses about Religion in the Contemporary United Kingdom

      Abstract: In the British setting, the deployment of the phrase ‘doing god’ has become increasingly common to refer to an emerging trend whereby religion has acquired an increasingly prominent role in political spaces and discourses. This was particularly prominent while David Cameron was Prime Minister and leader of the Conservative Party. While historically, religion has not had a prominent place in either the former Prime Minister David Cameron.

      Here, the findings from critical analyzing a series of Cameron’s public pronouncements about religion—and Christianity in particular—is set out to try and better understand his own adherence to Christianity (the personal) how this intersected with his politics and role as Prime Minister (the political), and more importantly how this shaped his views about Britain being a Christian country (the national). Contextualized within the embryonic scholarly literature relating to the phenomenon of ‘doing god’ in the contemporary British setting, this article concludes by considering alternative and analogous frames through which greater elucidation of the true motivations of his pronouncements might be understood.

      British politics; Christianity; David Cameron; religion; identity; United Kingdom; doing god; British Muslims

    438. CameronB Brodie says:

      P.S. I strongly disagree with Carol Craig’s interpretation of English culture being inward looking, as it managed to dominate much of the world, at one point in time. It is the shock of waking up to a loss of empire that we are witnessing in England today. Scotland’s future should not be determined as a result of England’s post-colonial malaise!

    439. CameronB Brodie says:

      Trying to interpret contemporary Scottish politics is hard enough, but an impossible task, IMHO, without context and an appreciation of the influence that faith has had on British politics. It’s also an idea to be aware of the New Right’s links to faith based policy and anti-science narratives.



      Alistair Campbell famously said, ‘we don’t do God’, but this does not seem to have been borne out by developments in British politics since Labour swept to power in 1997. Faith has played a more prominent and open role in British politics in the past 16 years than it has done at any time since the time of William Gladstone in the late nineteenth century and arguably ever. The premierships of Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and David Cameron have seen faith issues, groups and causes rise up the political agenda. The reasons for this are the residual attachment to religion in the UK population and some increasingly assertive minority faith groups, particularly the Muslim community following the ‘Rushdie Affair’ in 1989.

      This has been coupled with increased interest in and anxiety caused by faith groups amongst the ‘Westminster village’ and the country at large since the events of 9/11 and 7/7. Faith communities are now seen as an important constituency to cultivate and can provide key support on issues like international development and climate change….

      Troublesome Priests: Christianity and Marxism in the Church of England, 1906-1969

      Anglican Perspectives on Christian Religious Education

    440. Thepnr says:

      I played this song on OT almost 3 years ago to the day. Given recent news I’m wondering if the BBC are thinking the same?

    441. CameronB Brodie says:

      Here’s one for all those who came to support Scottish self-determination, out of a desire to bring an end to bigotry, chauvinism, paternalism and global, colonial, imperialism. 😉

      Leftfield/Roots Manuva – Dusted

    442. CameronB Brodie says:

      Here’s one for all those who came to support Scottish self-determination, out of a desire to bring an end to bigotry, chauvinism, paternalism and global, colonial, imperialism. Let’s brush those cobwebs away. 😉

      Leftfield/Roots Manuva – Dusted

    443. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      My sleep pattern is a bit awtihell at the moment, hence this late comment.

      ‘Twas good to meet X-sticks and Yesbot at the Eurofest in Dundee today.

      Now about to partake of Indian nibbles while watching the recording of tonight’s ‘Pointless Celebrities’.

      And here’s a bit of music… in Deutsch, for Frau Kaufmann from Perth.

    444. CameronB Brodie says:

      @ Alex Massie
      You appear to be either grossly ignorant or are simply a malicious troll. You are aware that Brexit is the concoction of the Anglo-American New Right, and that all the upheaval of Brexit will achieve is to make things harder for those at the bottom? I suppose you’ll support austerity on stilts though, eh, as intrinsically xenophobic Brexitania joins the race to the bottom?

      The UK’s Sovereignty Situation: Brexit, Bewilderment and Beyond?…


      Debate about ‘sovereignty’ has become impossible to avoid in the UK’s current, post-referendum but pre-Brexit, constitutional environment. Perhaps this is nothing new, and UK constitutionalism has always been shaped, quite explicitly and to a significant extent, by a captivation with the concept of sovereignty. Yet at the very least, the 2016 UK referendum on European Union (EU) membership has served as the centrepiece around which public and elite exchanges about legal and political dimensions of sovereignty have visibly intensified. In this context, this paper aims to reflect briefly and critically on the UK’s present sovereignty situation, considering the use (and abuse) of the concept in debate about national membership of the EU, its relevance (and irrelevance) to the process through which we move to exit from the Union, and also the potential implications of Brexit for our often confused national understanding(s) of this idea.


      The UK’s membership of the EU—and the commitments such membership entails—features very prominently in the modern constitutional narrative that parliamentary sovereignty is a much challenged doctrine.11 Yet while undoubtedly presenting difficult questions, the fundamental conundrum on which this challenge was founded is ultimately one which has been solved: the domestic doctrine of parliamentary sovereignty can be reconciled with the idea that EU law is to have domestic supremacy.12 There remains considerable debate as to exactly how this reconciliation has been achieved, and its broader constitutional consequences. Yet what is truly crucial is recognising that EU membership (among other things) has prompted us to recalibrate our understanding of the meaning and implications of parliamentary sovereignty, rather than abandon as unsalvageable the idea of a constitution founded on legally unlimited law-making power.13

      For the argument that a ‘manner and form’ understanding of parliamentary sovereignty should now be understood to represent the constitutional orthodoxy in the UK, see Michael Gordon, Parliamentary Sovereignty in the UK Constitution: Process, Politics and Democracy (Hart 2015). Yet this academic resolution—such as it is—has never seemed to translate into public discourse. In the public realm, or at least parts of it, there is still a sense that parliamentary sovereignty is left precarious by EU membership in particular.14 No doubt attempts by successive governments to encourage the UK Parliament to legislate to (re)confirm its legislative sovereignty might have contributed to or endorsed the apparent sense that this power was in peril. The most recent proposal of this kind, discussed above, teetered on collapsing into total incoherence, founded as it was on the notion of empowering a constitutional court in the name of preserving parliamentary sovereignty. Such failings in understanding suggest that we should be grateful the government never developed a plan which would have changed the constitution while purporting to preserve it, but also the extent to which ‘innovative’ proposals have been thought necessary to somehow save sovereignty….


      The UK’s current sovereignty situation may therefore be a rather unsatisfactory one. Even the new Prime Minister Theresa May now promises that Brexit will restore the UK’s position as a ‘sovereign country’.40 Yet was the EU ever really the UK’s major problem with respect to our sovereignty? Griffith’s classic lecture ‘The Political Constitution’ ends by recounting an Auden poem, in which preparations are made for a major expedition. Yet these preparations turn out to be in vain: ‘In theory they were sound on Expectation, Had there been situations to be in; Unluckily they were their situation’.41 If all of this bewilderment ever clears, and once we eventually move beyond Brexit, we may ultimately come to a similar, unsettling realisation about sovereignty in, and of, the UK: perhaps we were our situation all along.

    445. CameronB Brodie says:

      Hope I didn’t give you a fleg Brian.

    446. Brian Doonthetoon says:


      How spooky was that? Still watching tonight’s ‘Pointless Celebrities and we’re at the head-to-head, where the subject is ‘Foreign Language Songs’. A was French but B was the very song I posted in my previous comment!

      Must now check my Thunderball ticket for tonight…

      Nope, no win. SHAZBOT!

    447. CameronB Brodie says:

      And for readers in Northern Ireland, a fleg is colloquial for a small scare or surprise. 😉

    448. CameronB Brodie says:

      Brian Doonthetoon
      It’s freaky as, when stuff like that happens.

    449. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      I thought a fleg was a Union Jeck…

    450. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      This time of the morning and no input from ‘you-know-who’.

      I wonder which Glasgow gutter he is currently lying in?



    451. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      “Time for bed”, said Zebedee…

    452. Cactus says:

      Mornin’ Brian, haha how do, one is not a gutter kinda guy, ah always makes my way back HOME.

      Ah’ll be back a pitchin’ anna puttin’ by daybreak.

      Bullseye double-dunt in progress…

      Perceptivity always. 😉

    453. cearc says:


      Ha,ha. Yep, it is top of the BBC to-do list.


      Oi, you casting asparagus at oor Cactus? Fine upstanding young gent he is.

    454. Tinto Chiel says:

      Thepnr, CameronBB: superior music selections.

      Thank you.

      My daughter was visiting yesterday and brought in a pot of Greek basil, a smaller-leaved plant than the Italian version. The enclosing cellophane had the description “British Greek Basil”, I Carmichael you not.

      The Union never sleeps.

    455. Smallaxe says:

      “Imagine” Playing For Change, Song Around The World;

    456. Smallaxe says:

      “Listen to the Music” Playing For Change/Song Around The World;

      “A Better Place” Playing For Change/Song Around The World;

    457. Tinto Chiel says:

      Great stuff, Smallaxe. These videos must get up the racists’ noses.

      Wish I’d stuck in at the triangle when I was at school….

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