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Posted on February 15, 2013 by

We’re still mulling over the exclusive design/logo for “Heroes” in the fundraising campaign, but we were so pleased with this when we came up with it this morning that we thought it was too good to limit to people with lots of money.

betterourselves

It’s also the first Megastore sub-section with the new version of our masthead logo, designed to show progress from 2012 to 2013. (Last year we’d just found our old wings in the attic, now we’ve well and truly got them on. Not sure what we’re going to do for 2014 yet, maybe patch up all the holes.)

We might do a special version or exclusive colour run for Heroes or something, or come up with something different entirely. For now, click the image to see the product range, or just simply look at it and bask in our genius 😉

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  1. Scott Minto (Aka Sneekyboy) says:

    Well why not go with “Local Hero”.
     
    Seems apt

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  2. Keef says:

    Very clever Rev.
     
    Would an exclamation mark at the end of ‘ourselves’ enhance it?

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  3. Atypical_Scot says:

    Is there any merchandise with the logo, but without the quips?

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  4. domhnall dods says:

    Bit close to Sinn Fhein – we ourselves?
     

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  5. Morag says:

    I like it.  I don’t actually like the new version of your masthead logo so much , but no doubt I’ll get used to it.
     
    I’m constantly debating with myself just how suibtle it has to get before a sweatshirt will get past my employer’s ban on wearing sporting or political logos.  This one – maybe not so much.

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  6. Keef says:

    Hey Morag did you happen to see my offer to you on the ‘8 days’ post?

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  7. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

    “Is there any merchandise with the logo, but without the quips?”

    I could certainly knock some up in a few minutes if there’s a demand for it. No words at all?

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    • Atypical_Scot says:

      Yep, no words. My screen show dollar prices for shop? P.S. Liked McNeil’s piece in the Herald today.

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  8. The Man in the Jar says:

    Like it. Good wordplay!

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  9. Doug Daniel says:

    Ahh, I hadn’t noticed the subtle change to the logo – when did that happen?
     
    As a Hero, I would be quite happy to just have “HERO” automatically appear under my Gravatar, or something similar to fuel my ego. Although an empty display case with “Positive Case For The Union in here” in diamond-encrusted letters would suffice.

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  10. Morag says:

    Keef said:
    Hey Morag did you happen to see my offer to you on the ’8 days’ post?
     
    Yes, I did.  Already done the Hero bit, and holding off now till it gets nearer the target date.  I still think you should take him out though.  I don’t know who isn’t there, but I suggested Macbeth and/or Kenneth MacAlpine, neither of whom I saw on a quick run-through.
     
    I don’t remember if Queen Margaret was there, but I hope not.  Including token women shouldn’t extend to the woman who brought to an end the Scottish royal house speaking Gaelic, and tried to get everything as Anglicised as possible.

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  11. Mike Hutchison says:

    I really like the logo with the patchy wings, don’t ever fill them in! It would make a great tattoo, but I’d better not: while we all want indepedenece it only goes so far when you have a partner.
    Maybe it’s just me, for some reason the clean solid font doesn’t ‘feel’ right with the patchy wings. I’d love to see the logo with some simple shading to give it a little depth – Nothing too fancy like, the fact that it’s simple without too much going on but still manages to look cool is what makes it a winner in my opinion. 

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    • Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “Maybe it’s just me, for some reason the clean solid font doesn’t ’feel’ right with the patchy wings.”

      I should be able to locate some more beaten-up fonts, will have a muck around in Paint Shop later and see what happens.

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  12. Morag says:

    Mit Flügeln, die ich mir errungen, werde ich entschweben ….  🙂

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  13. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

    Never let it be said we’re slack on customer service.

    Plain-logo products (2012 version):

    link to cafepress.com

    2013 version:

    link to cafepress.com

    (Oh, and the currency selector should be at top-right.)

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    • Atypical_Scot says:

      Wow, a very speedy response! Cheers!

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  14. squarego says:

    Looking for the Scottish Pound option. Coming soon!

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  15. Midgehunter says:

    Sorry but I think the text BETTER OURSELVES just doesn’t fit.

    It’s much too near to the bitter together slogan – better this -better that – better yourself – better ourselves – better future – better nation – better ……. etc. We’re not good enough, we need to get better. It’s not positive and forward looking.

    I thnk we need something with more power, a definition of stronger together, dynamic.

    Thinking cap switched on …?

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  16. Morag says:

    It’s an extremely clever pun, but I agree there will be people who don’t get it.

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  17. naebd says:

    “Thinking cap switched on …?”
    They do electric thinking caps now?

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  18. naebd says:

    I agree it needs an exclamation mark – not strident enough. Maybe stick an Alba gu snooker loopy! on there too.

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  19. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

    I’m a journalist. Nothing is EVER improved by an exclamation mark, except ironically.

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  20. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

    “It’s much too near to the bitter together slogan”

    That’s kind of the point.

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  21. Jeannie says:

    @midgehunter
     
    That’s quite a good point, actually.

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  22. Jeannie says:

    @Re
    That’s quite a good point as well.  Not sure what to make of it now.

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  23. naebd says:

    I think it’s a witty play on words, but the separation (sorry) of the two words made it harder for me to notice that play on words. 

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  24. Jeannie says:

    @Rev
     I could certainly knock some up in a few minutes
    Will you behave yourself!

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  25. Doug Daniel says:

    Someone should do BetterOurselves posters etc in the BetterTogether font…

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  26. Morag says:

    Yeah, that’s a good idea.  I was thinking the best place for that slogan was at a Bitter Together meeting!  Could confuse the poor dears something rotten.

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  27. Albamac says:

    I’ve never liked the logo.  I think it looks too militaristic and threatening, like the battle-worn banner of a conquering legion.  It squats above us and spreads its wings in an aggressive display.  Some may see it as a representation of imperialism in tatters, but that’s not the immediate message that it conveys to me.  I look at it and old associations colour my response.

    I don’t see anything in it that conveys a message of hope and peaceful progress towards a better life in a better world. I’d prefer something clean, modern and bright, conveying an immediate sense of forward, upward, unlimited movement.

    Stereotypes!  Whit c’n ye dae? 🙂

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    • Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “I don’t see anything in it that conveys a message of hope and peaceful progress towards a better life in a better world. I’d prefer something clean, modern and bright, conveying an immediate sense of forward, upward, unlimited movement.”

      You’ve got our email address, right?

      😉

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  28. ianbrotherhood says:

    @Rev Stu:
    ‘I should be able to locate some more beaten-up fonts, will have a muck around in Paint Shop later and see what happens’.
    Suggestion – what about the ‘stencil’ style Banksy uses – chunky, urban, edgy…might be a good match for the distressed wings, and aspiring Banksies would find it easy to emulate…not that I’m advocating graffiti of any kind.

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  29. Albamac says:

    “You’ve got our email address, right?”
    Aye, Stu. Whitmalike? 🙂

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  30. Chic McGregor says:

    I kinda concur with Albamac, can I have your email address as well please?

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  31. kininvie says:

    Maybe you need to stop being modest and get the product to promote the site?
    ‘Scotland has Wings”
    with URL of course…

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  32. ianbrotherhood says:

    Variant magazine did a belter years ago – it was a poster of the 1919 (??) demo in George Square, a monochrome close-up of the massed bunnets with cops helmets dotted amongst them, and a very small slogan, appeared very rough, as if made with one of those John Bull kits. It said ‘Dream At The Top Of Your Voice’. Don’t know who said it originally, but it was a powerful image.

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  33. KenC says:

    In response to the ‘Scotland is extinguished’ advice, how about:
    Scotland- Relight the Flame. 

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  34. Indion says:

    BEST TOGETHER
    INDY + UNIONS

    or

    INDY + UNIONS
    BEST TOGETHER

    geddit?

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  35. Stevie says:

    A bit too 3rd reich for my tastes, though BETTER OURSELVES is good

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