Wings Over Scotland

Nice shot of 432 Park Ave behind the Freedom Tower. Not the prettiest of condos but having a slightly higher roof height than the FT is imho ooft.

Google “Larry Silverstein Insurance Payout” and you will be hard pushed to call it the Freedom Tower.

Is that Chris broadening Hamish’s horizons?

Maybe there should be a competition for artist of the week, for when that guy Holiday takes the resident one for frequent flier trips… 😀 😀 😀 😀

No Chris Cairns, so here’s a classic polandball to entertain you instead:

link to countryballs.net

Dan Huil says:
12 May, 2018 at 1:34 pm
I once gave a Clydesdale Bank £20 to the barman in an Irish pub in NY to stick on the pub wall with the other [less valuable] bank notes. Scots mean?

In the mid 60’s whilst at sea we docked in Galveston Texas. We had to have shore passes ID from the US Customs Polis. The Skipper insisted we sign “British”. I refused. The crew was about third from Glasgow, third from Dublin and third from London. I pointed out that the English seaman could sign English and was told, it was “the same thing”. Eventuality the cops got fed up, let the Scots and Irish go ashore and held the English back for about an hour with bureaucratic red tape. A big black cop telt me his grandfaither was flung oot o’ Aiberdeen fur stealin; a sheep. “Fit”?

We went to a bar and the bar wumman, took some of our Scots and Irish notes and tacked them on the wall behind the bar, along with other foreign notes and gave us oor change. Eventually oor English chums came in, making a fuss about us not being British. One of them offered an English pound note to put behind the bar. They were a’ pit oot and telt tae F O “Ya Limey faggots”.

For those following my David Leask saga, to recap I reported his posting using the “report” buttoin against his posting, because it made a false accusation in his reply to my posting: “Please stop putting misleading information gleaned from blogs on to our website“, where the figures (relative race hate crimes) were actually taken from two articles on the BBC website from September last year and verified by official government statistics from both governments.

Well, his posting has been deleted, whether by the moderators or Leask himself I don’t know. I await his apology as requested in one of my two replies to his reply.

We mustn’t let them get away with it. Below the line they’re just punters, the same as us, and should follow the same forum rules.

He’s entitled to a holiday.

Things will heat-up later in the year, politically speaking.

A super snap Chris, makes me think of GTA’s Los Santos 😉

Aussi a big shout out to the guys with all the Scotland and Yes supporting flags earlier today… be-decking and flying high on BOTH sides of the bridge on St Vincent St passing over Glasgow’s motorway number eight, toot toot!

An excellent encore from last weekend.

Next week too aye?

7 days remaining to go…

and

14 days remaining to go…

21 days remaining to go Scotland, Dumfries.

O/T ‘I feel so stupid’: Trump supporters ‘tricked by the devil’ now facing financial ruin

Aye well you were telt and no point bleating about it now Suckers! Remind you of anything?

link to archive.li

Re Brexit.

“Theresa May splits cabinet to consider customs options”

“Brexiteers such as Boris Johnson are against Mrs May’s preferred option of a “customs partnership”, which is backed by Remain-voting ministers.”

“Mr Johnson’s preferred model relies on technology to minimise customs checks. The EU has expressed doubts about whether either option would work.”

link to bbc.com

The problem Treeza has with any of the two options is that the EU have told her that none of them will be acceptable.

It is as if the Tories are oblivious to what the EU are telling them.

And the EU Brexit Summit is only weeks away.

I just worry he’s across the pond negotiating a trade deal to sell his cartoons to the bloody Americans !!

You’re too good for them, Chris. Don’t do it.

“precious” petals!

Always worth re-reading this article for those who’d like us to believe the Scottish Government is weak and powerless:

link to scottishconstitutionalfutures.org

“As noted above, if the UK government cannot be persuaded to come to (reasonable) terms the Scottish government also has the option of legislating for a second referendum without a section 30 order and taking its chances before the courts.“

@Tjenny

Hi TJenny, check out Scottish Labour Twitter apparently it’s their national campaign day and they are campaigning for ‘real change’ don’t ya know.

Funny because I thought it was same old same old.

Have a good evening.

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On a separate note and apologies if already been noted by others but noticed this today :

‘EU Convergence Uplift payments of £190m were triggered because of the low rate paid to hill farmers in Scotland.

But the money was shared out by the Treasury across the UK farming sector.

The terms of a review of the payments had been agreed but UK Environment Secretary Michael Gove said it had been held up by the Treasury.

Scotland’s Rural Economy Secretary Fergus Ewing said the delay was “completely unacceptable.

The long-running row dates back to 2013, when the EU announced moves to redistribute Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) payments more fairly, on the basis of average Euros per hectare.

The EU paid the uplift money to bring Scottish hill farmers up to the average per-hectare payments of all the other EU countries.

However, the decision was made by the UK government to spread the payments across the whole farming sector, based on historical distributions.

The UK Treasury distributed about £30m to Scottish farmers.

Mr Ewing said: “Scottish hill farmers are owed £160m, which the UK government has repeatedly ignored.

“I have been clear throughout that the money was earned in Scotland, and quite frankly should be returned to Scotland.”

In a letter to Mr Ewing, Mr Gove said that he wanted swift progress on establishing the agreed review but that the Treasury was ultimately responsible for financing.

He added that “the question of future funding of agriculture is one which the Treasury needs to give careful consideration given its wider responsibilities”.

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Ian Blackford commented on twitter :

“The EU recognised the low level of financial support that it grants to crofters & farmers in Scotland with bill sheep. Funds were given to the UK which were primarily for Scottish crofters and farmers. The UK is not handing the cash over the way it should”

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So wingers THIS is why powers should not be grabbed by WM post Brexit because we all know which areas will be well provided for and which will not.And yet today Labour in Scotland are fannying about on the doorsteps with leaflets stating Tory and SNP austerity cuts ( not for viewers in Wales where only Tory austerity is to blame eh Labour ya big Welfare Reform Bill abstainers Ho Hum must think we’re dumb )….with the ‘For the many not the few’ slogan which, for Scotland, re above EU convergence uplift payments is actually an accurate slogan while remaining part of the UKOK.

Our press are sick.

Try googling ‘do baby boxes reduce infant mortality’ and check what comes up – here is 9 of the top 12 that came up.

Cot death charity raises concerns over Finnish-style ‘baby boxes

Do baby boxes really save lives? – BBC News

Are cardboard baby boxes safe for a sleeping baby? – The Lullaby Trust

Can baby boxes reduce cot death? | MadeForMums

Cot death charity raises concerns over Finnish-style ‘baby boxes

Cot death charity disputes claim baby boxes reduce infant mortality

Charity concerned at claims baby boxes reduce ‘cot death’

As Popularity Of Baby Boxes Grows, Skeptics Say More Testing Is

Baby boxes ‘AREN’T safe and don’t protect against sudden infant …

Should have made it clearer that I don’t have any concerns to discuss, not that I don’t care.

I picked up the second link (below) from:-

link to twitter.com

link to twitter.com

Sounds like a plan…

I see that journalist are still aggrieved with people disagreeing with them. Nick Eardley is fed up being called a Tory/Labour stooge, then possibly, as English is their stock and trade, by not using ambiguous phrases they would not be misinterpreted.

Then pops in Leask, someone who calls anyone who disagrees with him a cybernat and seems to block them. He wants to stop those insulting him by insulting them.

If they are so sensitive why not just not use twitter or stop BTL comments on their publications, or are the clicks more important.

Then they object to the fact that after insulting their readers/viewers they complain that they threaten to not buy their produce.

Also Mr Eardley should be aware that if the corp he worked for did not use political party handouts as news or at least stated the story was based on a political party claim rather than a ‘critic’ then I would take their reporting more seriously.

Have you ever seen a more amateurish use of Photoshop or, more likely, Gimp?

link to twitter.com

Regarding the SH diatribe to be published tomorrow.

Looks to me like the plan is to call on the SNP to actively come out against anyone in the party or even outwith who criticises the SH.

If the SNP do not do that then the SH will say they cannot support the SNP and thus allow them to make the break they so obviously want. The SH wants back in the fold and will rebrand as ‘neutral’ citing the tone of debate in Scotland – which it, of course, has had an active role in setting.

Brian

I don’t know about the National.

I had such high hopes but it seems it set out to court the Bella crowd from the outset. Bella has sat quietly back while this all rages. I genuinely believe this is a strategy to silence any voices deemed not on-message – ie Wings. I can see the National folding quite soon and Bella becoming part of the Herald set up – it cannot support itself but the on-message indy crowd doesn’t want to let it die.

Hi Tinto Cheil.

The ‘English Scots For Yes’ stall, wherever, is always a source of CAKES AND FOOD.

My choice last Saturday was a ham salad roll (not a bap or a barm cake), which filled an empty space in my belly at 12.10pm. (I had been at Glagow Green with empty belly from 8.30ish.)

So far the UK/England are last in the Eurovision song contest.

England have got to be the most detested country in Europe.

See,,,it’s not just a Scots thing. England are disliked equally between all the Nations of Europe.

@Indy2: 11.05

Nup, not paying £1.90 to read Scotland is shite and all nasty Nats suck so yahboo.

A hate the English (establishment) and all that they stand for.

From their media to their warmongering governments.

Lets hope Nicola gives the go-ahead for IndyRef2 in Spring next year.

Hi Ronnie.

PARP! Do you expect a cojent answer after Old Poultenay (excuse the spelling)?

ScottishPsyche at 9.56

Having difficulty making any sense of that post. The SH does not support independence and hasn’t done so for some time but it obviously was relying on lots of us being stupid and not noticing.

The National supports independence 100% and there is no connection between the editorial stances of both these organs which are editorially independent of each other. The publisher of both and its US parent company publish hundreds of different newspapers and magazines with different editorial teams and positions.

I can see no reason why anybody would imagine the National was about to collapse. It’s a hard job keeping it running but it is through the worst now and is improving all the time.

Which other publication gives you Carolyn Leckie, Gordon McIntyre-Kemp, Wee Ginger Dug, Kevin McKenna, Tasmina Ahmed Sheikh, Patrick Harvie, Ross Greer, Pat Kane, George Kerevan, Mhairi Black, Cat Boyd, Michael Fry, Alan Riach, Greg Moodie, Hamish MacPherson, Andrew Tickell and other Nat columnists every week?

I get pretty pissed off by those who moan away about media bias and then don’t buy the National (apparently because it is printed by the same company that prints the Herald). This makes about as much sense as not buying the Beano because it is printed by the same company that prints the Dundee Courier.

We need a Sunday National

FFS, that Sunday Herald front page.

Alex has some monumental patience to withstand decades of trolling.

I haven’t bought that shitrag for nigh on 10 years.

Hutcheon = British Nationalist = Haggarty = Sunday Herald = Tories.

Just don’t buy any of these propaganda British Nationalist rags and that includes the two faced Sunday Herald.

The media in Scotland is a national disgrace. Non stop anti Scotland propaganda. Tractors the lot of them. One by one like Torrance they will bugger off to London after doing their masters bidding where they will be rewarded with a nice dog biscuit. Woof Woof Hutcheon.

Ian Brotherhood @ 12.19 am

That is an honest and heartfelt defense of Neil Mackay and your insight is invaluable.

Please will you let us know what was going on whenever it becomes clear?

@Ghillie –

Cheers for that.

Given what we already know about the way msm works and what it does/can do to the real ‘players’, who can say for sure when anything becomes ‘clear’?

Tomorrow will be a mess of finger-pointing and recrimination. That much is certain.

And while we’re all dissecting this latest ‘domestic’, Mundell and his cohorts quietly construct the ‘refreshed’ version of the Scottish Office which will, in effect, eviscerate the Holyrood Parliament of whatever significant powers it has.

Neil Mackay has many strings to his bow. ‘We’ don’t, and what few we have are being loosened by the hour.

This week’s SH seems bizarrely irrelevant to current news issues. It is just a personal attack on Salmond and from what I can see not a particularly accurate one. Nae harm to Mrs Litvinenko she has been sorely wronged by Putin and the UK should have taken a much stronger line at the time with the Kremlin but there are far more worthy targets than Alex’s independently made show being screened on RT. If it vexes the UK so much screen it C4 or similar. RT don’t make it so it is available to another broadcaster.

@Brian Doonthetoon says: 12 May, 2018 at 10:05 pm:

“Will it be closed down in the next week or two (to preserve a united media front against indy), or will surging sales keep it alive?”

My experience is that there cannot be surging sales of the National. Anytime I’ve been a wee bit late getting out and about I found it impossible to find a copy for sale in the shops and I’ve never seen any bundles of Nationals for return.

If all the shops are sold out there must surely be room for increasing the print run a little bit to meet the demand.

@Robin says: 12 May, 2018 at 11:09 pm:

” … it’s not just a Scots thing. England are disliked equally between all the Nations of Europe.”

The phrase, “Perfidious Albion”, is World wide and was not earned for charitable works by the English. Look at an older globe of the World and those countries coloured pink have every right to refer to The Kingdom of England as, “Perfidious Albion”.

However, much to our Shame, the Kingdom of Scotland was tarred with the same brush for The Kingdom od Scotland signed up, rather unwillingly by the Hoi polio, to join the Treaty of Union and form the United Kingdom. It was largely the resultant trade with the colonies that built the City of Glasgow and the New Town of Edinburgh.

However, joining that union began the trend for the Scottish working classes becoming Scotland’s all time greatest export to the World. It also began the trend of Scots becoming cannon fodder for His/Her Majesty’s Royal Navy and the Soldiers of the King/Queen and Their Majesty’s Royal Air Force.

Scotland has little to thank the Union for and it’s long passed the time we changed those trends.

The Sunday Herald frontpage has Alex Salmond’s picture juxtaposed with a headline about a “scots serial killer” (dennis nilsen) – then along with the picture of the dying man, Litvinenko, plus the grieving widow – it conjures up a nasty web of associations, like on a quick scam – SALMOND is a MURDERER … just a coincidence, hey – nothing to see here, move along. Or maybe it’s the same psychological trickery used to sell toothpaste. I haven’t bought a printed paper for 10 years, or read one in 5 – and it just makes me feel CLEAN.

In other news – it’s been a good week for the wankers –

link to bbc.co.uk

– this guy is a poster boy for neoliberalism – everything about what he does is just, wrong – the rent-seeking, the private ownership of national infrastructure, the junk bond selling, the leveraged-buyouts, the union bashing, the HQ in sleazy Luxembourg, then there’s the “lawfare” against a democratically elected govt, OURS.

I would like to find out where he lives just so I could APPLY for 4 FRACKING licenses on each side of him.

Once independent, and after Nicola has handed on the baton after a glorious and successful stewardship, I would like the first leader after her to be a “Duterte-clone” who will wash away these parasites.

Past my bedtime. Yawn.

@RJS “Keep at it, staying polite (as you do), and maybe even he will reach a tipping point. That or his background motives (a la Breeks) will become visible to all.” (and Breeks).

Thanks for that. Well, I’m 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th on Neil Mackay’s thread. My 2nd got deleted, hence number 3 and 4, so they reinstated it.

It’s hard, it’s a bit nasty, it’s firm, and it’s all I can be bothered to do any more. Either they get the message – or they don’t. I’ve been posting since late 2012 on the Herald, one of the handful of people who were post-moderated or the other way around (in other words my psotings appeared straight away) and buggered if I can be bothered any more if they don’t change their spots and start to respect posters, readers, tweeters – and us vile cybernats.

It’s their bed and they can fucking lie on it from now on.

Thanks also to Ian B for his good words about Neil Mackay, I’ve looked at his timeline in the past and he does seem solid on Indy. Otherwise I wouldn’t have bothered my arse.

But from now on, the SH is on its own, and needs to mend its ways – as does Leask. No more arrogance and dissing good sound solid Indy supporters.

And the odd pro-Indy article might help.

Indeed Robert Peffers at 9:03pm.

Aye just like 3671 Whispymound Drive, always found it quite amusing the ‘sum’ of Franklin’s address.

The magic number features frequently in GTAV.

Rockstar knows.

RE: Sunday Herald’s recent move to the “dark side”.

IMO someone at the top has been leaned on – favours/threats, the usual deep state interference. Do not underestimate the deep state’s control. Virtually all the social media/IT giants (Google, Facebook, Twitter) did not just grow out of nothing, and certainly did not grow because of the brilliance of their “inventors”. No, they have all been cleverly set up in a way to maintain control of the masses. Take Mark Zuckerburg for example – Mark Zuckerburg! Come on, folks. These so-called geniuses have been set up by the dark forces. In the shadows, there are dark hands up their backsides controlling them like the glove puppets that they are.

The dark forces almost definitely have something on a few SNP figures, but not all. They don’t have complete control, which is causing them serious problems. 🙂

That SH front page reeks of MI6 interference. Why would a “Scottish” newspaper get involved in the desperate propaganda scams of the British State? They’re getting very careless these days. Or desparate.

BREXIT endgame on the horizon?

Don’t buy the Sunday Herald watch the Alex Salmond show instead
link to rt.com

link to imgonnasayitanyway.wordpress.com

link to autonomyscotland.org

link to opendemocracy.net

It appears the march really stirred up a hornets nest of yoonery. Most especially in the media. They’ve been crafting a narrative of ‘no interest’ in a referendum for the past couple of years and that narrative was left in tatters as of last Saturday.

The media reaction?

Instant, panicked, and as per usual, utterly devoid of thought for consequences to the general public. They truly are as predictable as they are appalling. Blame the people, the readers, everyone but themselves.

The media was wrong, is in the wrong and this is a QED moment. They should pay attention to what is being said to them. They won’t. This will end in only one way at this point. A complete breakdown of trust.

Their choice. (shrugs)

Mornin’ Nana

Seems the march stirred up quite the response.

Bless. 😀

Reading just in time for brekkie.

It sure did Macart, they are running scared 🙂

The EU is to push for an optional six-month extension to theBrexit transition period to be built in to the UK’s withdrawal agreement,
link to archive.is

Brexit and Ireland: The Border is a sideshow, if you’re an eel
link to archive.is

Brexit: acting in the national interest
link to eureferendum.com

Morning Fred, enjoy the walk and the extra money in your pocket 🙂

You know all this hysterical boo-hooing by the oh-so ‘precious’ so-called journalists of Scotland is frankly irritating. OK, I get it, some of them might not support independence, indeed some might even think Theresa May is a decent human being. But that misses the point.

We currently have a devolved Parliament in Scotland, one that was voted into existence by the electorate of Scotland by a massive majority – something which so-called journalists seem to have forgotten. Yet it is under full scale attack by the Tories at Westminster. Its powers, we have quite literally been told by the Westminster puppet Mundell, could at a whim be removed by Westminster after brexit. Our country is being forcibly removed from the EU, because England wants it. Is that really democracy? Would any other country in the world have such obedient, submissive journalists who seem to think that is ok? So, where is the anger from Scotland’s media, where is the outrage by editorial and leader writers? Seriously, where is it?

Why is it only in Scotland that such actions may be taken with impunity by another Government in another place, that fly in the face of ANY notion of democracy, and the so-called journalists of Scotland only occasionally mention it. Whether you like the SNP or not, or even if you hate the idea of independence, the current Scottish Government of Scotland is literally fighting tooth and nail within its powers to hold on to a Scottish Parliament, which belongs to the people of Scotland. Yet, what do we get from Scotland’s so-called journalists?? Day after day after day of utter unfounded puerile nonsense about freaking baby boxes – which apparently are a really good idea in ANY other part of the world EXCEPT Scotland. Likewise a brand new Forth crossing, which was delivered on time and below budget, something worthy of praise in any other country of the world, but NOT in Scotland.

That is just two wee examples, as to why the people of Scotland are so heartily sick and fed up of the utter p*sh printed day in, day out by so-called journalists in Scotland. In ANY other country of the world, they would be standing shoulder to shoulder with the Scottish Government, not to win independence, but to stand up for the country in which they live, Scotland. That is the problem. Until Newspaper editors and so-called journalists in Scotland sniff the coffee and wake up to how deep their pre-conditioned colonial way of thinking goes, the people of Scotland will get more and more sickened by their ill-informed, ridiculous, one-sided writing.

Today, we see a once great newspaper in Scotland, resort to insulting those who even dared to quite justifiably criticise them. The oh so precious so-called journalists of Scotland. Burying their collective heads in their own self inflated ego’s. Their truly are none so blind, as those who will not see.

The British establishment is doing what it always has done – tight control from the shadows. The big difference now is that this state control of our minds is loosening, and they are panicking big time. They have been rattled since 2007 and they have made some pretty big mistakes recently. The stakes are at an all time high, and those in panic mode tend to make stupid mistakes as they try to force things. It’s getting silly now and even those that don’t pay much attention can see what’s going on.

At this stage, we don’t have to panic. We are winning. Just keep up the rebuttals, start laughing at them and continue to exist. It’s all we have to do at this stage.

Give em enough rope and get your popcorn. 🙂

Don’t panic, just get out the popcorn and vote YES next time.

Report if you can anything you happen to see or hear.

Nana says:

The EU is to push for an optional six-month extension to theBrexit transition period to be built in to the UK’s withdrawal agreement

…. which would delay any noticible Brexit induced changes until AFTER Holyrood 2021. Barring a breakdown and crash out before then, that is.

The BritNats would welcome no Brexit-proper before that vote, which of course they plan to win.

A fundamental rule of society – All rights come with responsibilities.

The problem with too many jouros is they think that somehow doesn’t apply to them.

They have the freedom to print whatever they want but with that come huge responsibilities! Yet they appear to wash their hands of any.

Breeks says:

The Establishment media is once again setting the agenda, controlling the narrative, and manipulating the reality.

Agreed. If I were to criticise one aspect of the YES campaign in 2014 it would be the way our political leaders appeared to spend their time reacting rather than positively promoting.

It was understandable to some extent. We were presenting a prospectus for change, the BritNats were supposed to represent simply no change. (Although that’s not how their campaign ended).

However, NOW, with Brexit and the attacks on the existing constitutional settlement the YES side must take control of the debate and hound BritNats endlessly on the BIG issues. It is they who should be back-footed, and we should be setting the agenda.

Those who command the agenda will win.

Robert Louis and Breeks – great posts, absolutely terrific. Since we will never be treated fairly by the UK Establishment they must not be allowed ever again to set the agenda. We can and should assert our sovereignty! Rock just don’t bother!

What has Neil Mackay said about the selection of that front-page image? Do we know who chose it?

In the meantime, Angela Haggerty has caused utter mayhem. Twitter is heaving with rage over her ‘outing’ of Mhairi Black’s partner.

Is this all coincidence?

It fuckin reeks and I’m sick with anger – are they trying to get it all to kick off NI style? That’s genuinely how it feels now.

Wings is all about feeding on the diet of tripe and mince fed by the media. It does that very good.

But arguments over baby boxes or what the Daily Mail says about the Queensferry Crossing is only feeding off the media’s diatribe of misinformation.

Wings helps to show that the mainstream media including the “impartial” BBC is heavily biased in what it reports and often more importantly, what it chooses NOT to report.

Wings does not in itself give anyone a reason to vote FOR independence. It only reaffirms that the media cannot be trusted to supply impartial factual information.

Only very rarely does it deal with the big issues, such as the constitutional matters of Scottish sovereignty, Brexit and devolution power grab.

When it does, it comes as across as very weak compared to the likes of Craig Murray.

However, Wings is Wings, Craig Murray is Craig Murray. They serve different purposes.

For new visitors to the site Wings articles are hopefully an eye opener about how dishonest the media – especially television media such as the BBC, really is. For that purpose, it is an excellent site.

Personally, it’s: Okay, got that: the media, including the BBC are very biased in favour of the Union and UK Establishment. Anything new to offer?

Ian Brotherhood @10.23

I think you may have a point there Ian the way the British Nationalist regime is conducting its operations would lead a reasonable person to conclude that they are attempting to generate a backlash.

Fortunately for us the pro Independence side are a mixture of all religions and none. We are a mixture of all colours and races.

There lies the problem for the regime there is no gulf between pro Independence folk and folk who are pro the English regime. The only difference is we want independence the pro regime people need independence they just need convincing.

Must be frustrating for the centre who I think are attempting to stir up trouble so they can attack us.

We are too clever for that.

The war on freedom of expression for online independistas is ratcheting up. Expect megaphone denunciations of “cybernats” from the MSM.

Margaret Curran was invited to GMS this morning for the umpteenth time to discuss the Sunday papers. Turned it into a pro Labour edition (as usual) even hinting at Richard Leonard’s fothcoming announcement on how to deal with BREXIT. None of the actual papers feature this BTW.

She also had a swipe at Police Scotland. They are finally getting round to dealing with Callum Steele who is particularly good at responding to random PSbad attacks. Also, one area in Scotland has a higher rate of knife attacks than London, a Sunday Express page 8 story says.

There is obviously an election or referendum on the horizon.

Good Old BBC -This morning’s Marr Show chaired by arch right wing unionist Nick Robinson with Sunday Paper reviewers panel consisting of the Taxpayers Alliance woman straight off thursday’s QT, Camilla Long from Murdoch’s right wing Sunday Times and a token left wing journalist. At least nobody from Brillo’s Spectator this week.

Nothing like a bit of political balance.

And still to come Sunday Politics Scotland with Brewer _ I wonder which unionist stooges he will have on today – not forgetting whatever crap we get form Sarah Smith on the London segment.

Lets hope ‘on reflection’ they get the message when all the returned papers come back. It will never darken my door again, not after last week – your granny could have told you that picture was neither proportional, fair or in any way a reflection of the indy march. This week it is Salmond they are after – they are really getting worried now, they know it is game over.

Forgot to say we know what to expect from UKBBC and from the rest of the press, it is the fact they call themselves an indy supporting paper that riles. As for their integrity goes they would have to have some in order to find it.

New level of anti-dis-ambiguity-ism there Colin A.

Catching up on two days, some great Wings comments very good points, re farm subsidies corruption etc.

O/T

The current price of Brent oil is $77 a barrel. I can recall reading how Shell makes $5 billion everytime the price rises by $10. Regardless of the price, oil companies operating in the UKCS are all benefitting from a generous tax regime until 2020. It was introduced at a time when the price was around $20 a barrel. Is it right that devolved governments, local councils, public services, public sector pay, benefits and pensions are still subjected to financial constraints, when the UK Government can and should re-instate the previous tax regime.

(sarcasm) I didn’t know Alex Salmond was on RT. I will go and watch it now. Thank you Sunday Herald for telling me. (end sarcasm)

As several above have alluded to..
..’The SNP can’t control what people complain about’

I am close to the SNP but not controlled by them.

The Herald is close to THE CONSERVATIVE AND UNUONIST PARTY and is clearly controlled by its editor.

How we feel about the English seems to be a touchy subject on here.

Are we all trying to be “Politically Correct”?

If I say to an Englishman that Scotland should become an Independent Nation and that Englishman bursts out laughing at my suggestion, then how should I feel about that Englishman?

If that Englishman then goes on to tell me that I would die of starvation if it were not for English taxpayers money keeping Scotland from turning into a complete basket case, how should I feel about that Englishman.

The English tell us through their Politicians and their Media that Scotland is dependent on English money.

Ask ANY English person what their thoughts are on Scottish Independence and their reaction is to roll about the floor laughing at you.

In their eyes Scotland is of no more importance to them than the County of Yorkshire.

So to sum up, anybody who is against Scotland becoming an Independent Nation is my enemy.

So am I Anti-English, well yes I am, because of their Anti- Scottish Independence stance.

Add to that the in-bred hatred we have of our closest neighbours.

Love it, Alex Salmond is responding to the smear story in today’s Sunday Herald and also cancelled his subscription, last week…that is a result. Neil Mackay has literally ‘turned’, sorry Ian, wanted to give him benefit of the doubt, but this week’s SH is beyond the pale on the back of last week’s nonsense.

link to twitter.com

BBC ITV and Sky News all running with the usual Two Party State, English Political debates this morning.

And just to make sure you know which city is the most Important City in the World, they hang a huge picture of London at the back of them.

Scotland, Wales and N Ireland:

Know Your Limits !!!

Now shut up Scotland and eat yer Porridge.

I suggest that all Independence supporters stop buying these British Nationalist rags. All the newspapers (possible exception the National) are part of the British Nationalists propaganda machine.

WHY SUPPORT THEIR PROPAGANDA?

So watch out for ‘victim Angela’ tomorrow. Anger management Leask will be frothing at the mouth today ready to unleash his anti-nat bile in the coming days.

To read Neil Mackay’s editorial is like hearing an admonitory harangue from a highly manipulative parent or teacher.

The tenor and tactics are unmistakable. The pompous and overly long self justification. Followed by the inevitable attempt at inducing guilt by claiming to have wounded feelings.

Then as a finale the stern warning to the supposedly miscreant offspring/pupil that they are sabotaging their own efforts and they had better get their act together.

A lot of us have seen and heard all that kind of shit before Neil Mackay. You get your act together. Or don’t bother, if you prefer. You’re not that important. It doesn’t matter.

Aye Ronnie…it’s like the fucking twilight zone in Scottish msm.

Mr R Anderson

Why did you call me a Troll?

Is it because I am against English Rule of my Country?

If you are telling me to stop posting Anti-English material, then I can only take from that that you support English Rule of my Country.

If that is correct, then who is the Troll,,me or you?

louis.b.argyll

“New level of anti-dis-ambiguity-ism there Colin A”.

Translation please, louis. Ta.

I leave with this tweet from Mr Malky, get angry people and cancel your tv licences and your subs to unionist media. Don’t pay for propaganda.

link to twitter.com

Robert Peffers

You are one of the very few on here who isn’t shy about calling out the English for what they are.

You do it in your own intellectual way, but in my opinion in IndyRef2, there needs to be more “Anti-English” propaganda coming from our side of the border.

It hasn’t done the English any harm up until now with their Anti-Scottish propaganda has it?

We are still stuck in this stinkin Union.

I am loyal to a fault and have been known to flog dead horses. However, after last week’s SH and now the idiotic attack on the excellent Salmond Show on RT, I am throwing in the towel on the SH.

I will keep on buying ‘The National’ though. I think we all must keep buying it.

There is a storm coming & the Brit Nat Establishment will throw the ‘Mother of all Project Fears’ at us, again.

To cheer myself up, I have dusted down from the shelf my old Republic’s ‘I’m Not A Royal Wedding Mug’ mug, for the next couple of weeks. Sadly, the said mug is no longer available from the Republic.org’s online shop, although there are rather fine books as an antidote for the next 2 weeks of BBC Royal Wedding biased travesty we are all going to be subjected to by Nick Witchall.

link to republic.org.uk

Republic.org so far as I am aware, never been invited onto the BBC far right endorsing ‘Question Time’, unlike the odious BNP or EDL …..

If the BBC was so impartial then next Thursday it should really have invited a Republic speaker onto its programme in the run up to the wedding so that we can examine its cost etc. e.g. the monarchy earns more in less than one hour than the average annual UK worker. All facts you’ll never hear mentioned on the BBC. Sigh

Robin says:
13 May, 2018 at 11:53 am
How we feel about the English seems to be a touchy subject on here.

If I say to an Englishman that Scotland should become an Independent Nation and that Englishman bursts out laughing at my suggestion, then how should I feel about that Englishman?…

How would you feel if it was a Frenchman? Or a German? Japanese? What makes the English National any different? Let them laugh if they like. Independence is not for their benefit but Scotland’s. Independence is just a tweak in our Constitution so that I can be a Scottish “National” with a Sovereign homeland just like they do. It’s a pro-Scotland initiative, and certainly not meant as a stick in the eye for England.

In a narrower Scottish context however, I suspect I would feel the same as I feel about a Scottish Unionist bursting out laughing… I might assume I’m clearly speaking to somebody still wearing their Union Jack blinkers, who doesn’t understand what Independence for Scotland actually means.

By far, Unionism as it stands, myred in xenophobia, sectarian bigotry, post modern Imperialsim, British Exceptionalism, propaganda, delusional fantasies, and obliged to deliver a “successful” Brexit is a much more laughable position to find yourself in than the dispassionate, objective practicality of Independence for Scotland. Scotland in Europe actually makes sense, with the EU in our corner and literally “taking care of business” while an emergent Scotland’s interests are emancipated and disentangled from 300 years of Union. If you think that’s funny, then you’re clearly not paying enough attention.

Anybody who laughs at that is either an idiot, simply hasn’t done their homework, or most likely of all, hasn’t yet realised the degree to which their opinions have been coloured and polarised for decades by the UK Establishment’s propaganda.

These unfortunate people face the double whammy of Scotland becoming Independent regardless of whether they find it funny or not, and then realising the extent to which they’ve been duped for decades for the BBC, UK Press, and their own perfidious Government in Westminster. Perhaps after Scotland wakes up after 300 years of slumber, maybe England will find the way to reinvent itself too. It might be bruising process, but it needs to happen.

If you want the full honest truth, I told a little white lie in the second paragraph. I don’t feel exactly the same way as I do about a Scottish Unionist, because the Englishman who finds it all funny probably has a credible excuse for being ill informed. Unlike the English, a BritNat Scot however has layers of irrational denial to explain away too.

I’m not saying so to be politically correct. I genuinely have no axe to grind with the English. Once Independent, and functioning properly like a sovereign Nation should function, I would hope and expect we might enjoy close and constructive cultural links with England once the abuse and disrespect for Scotland’s National status has been brought to an end. The marriage is over, but we should stay friends for the sake of the mutual prosperity and common respect. I promise you, I don’t feel any threat from Morris Dancing or cricket.

Yes of course, post Independence I expect there will be a degree of frustration that certain issues and grievances will remain. For example we might never look towards Norway with a wry smile forever wondering what might have been. But Scotland needs to understand something profound… If we surrender ourselves to the base instincts of Sectarianism, Anglophobia, and resentment of the “former” Union, the attitude will corrupt our National psyche if we are weak and allow it to happen.

I might make one exception to that blanket rule, and that’s the BBC. It’s not a matter or lack of forgiveness, but I’m not sure there’s a seat on the bus for a media mechanism which might seek to actively poison and undermine our Constitutional reawakening. An Indy Scotland deserves something better.

Just like Unionism undermined the validity of the 2014 NO result, a successful YES result and progression towards a vibrant and successful Independence will be judged by the magnanimity we have for our Unionist compatriots and our capacity to draw a line under what has gone before.

It is Unionism which is fighting the inevitable. But ultimately, resistance is futile. Scotland will be the Independent Nation it properly deserves to be. Laugh while you can.

I see we are getting more trolls on here. Latest one is wasting his breath. Also in our local Indy group we are getting our first trolls! It’s a sign peeps, that they’re rattled and Indy is coming.
Ignore or delete. They’re sole intention is to derail. Won’t work – we forge ahead.

@robert peffers.
Robert, is there anything we can do for you? I was sad to hear you’ve been unwell again. Your posts have been an inspiration. Let us know if there’s anything any of us can do. Thinking of you. Even though I don’t know you or even whatv you look like! Take care.

How very dare they take a pop at Alex. He’s the man! Herald has boobed big time there. Shouldn’t they have asked the Skripals? Oh, wait…

Havent bought the SH since at least the 2016 HE and their sneaky promotion of Rise. Anyway it was too expensive and I was only reading a small part of it. Waste of paper.

I still buy the National and I hope more people do. Its a lone voice on the newsstands. It might be slim but thats fine as I can read all the bits I want to read on my lunch break.

My Sainsburys has stopped stocking it, but on the other hand Morrisons now seem to get more in. Downside is I have to walk past piles of Union Jack nationalist boxes of bedding plants.

That is seriously a bit weird printing entire boxes with UJs and stacking them up. Reeks of insecurity and fear.

Folks, sign above the urinals in the Lismore Bar in Partick.

This urinal is dedicated to three men who participated in the Highland Clearances!

These men took part in what is now recognised as a form of Central Government endorsed ethnic cleansing! Through their greed & bigotry they & others were instrumental in destroying a centuries-old Highland way of life!

Please feel free to pay them the respect they are due!

@Robert Louis
Yes, great post. I personally don’t want to see the traditional media disappear, I want it to evolve and work side by side with new media like Wings. But instead of listening to people who could help it evolve and survive, it attacks us, bares its filed down teeth, insults us, tries to marginalise us, tries to classify us all as “cybernats” if we disagree or get annoyed at it, blocks those on twitter (I’m not), even defames us above and even below the line, and then totally ignores any good advice that might be in our frustrated and angered criticism, choosing only to go into a sulk and demand the SNP “do somethng about it”.

Even a grudging apology for completely and utterly screwing up, something even unionist posters have agreed with in that thread, it seeks to make the main issue abuse from “cybernats” – WHICH IT PROVOKED by its ridiculous mistake.

And if Neil Mackay or others are reading this, yes, it is me.

Hamish 100 (or Patsy for short)

BULLSHIT !!!

Haven’t bought the Sunday Herald for ages – no regrets. This Leaske chiel seems to be in a massive huff that members of the public in Scotland doubt the veracity of so-called professional journalists. Arrogant Leaske and his ilk have only themselves to blame for the drop in public trust for the media in Scotland.

Buy the National. Boycott all British nationalist media. Support pro-indy websites like WOS.

@Donald Anderson. Just caught up with your post. Great story.

Hamish 100, (to Robin)
‘So please keep your hatred away from me and others and trying to mix it. You only aid the unionist cause. Cheers’
Spot on. There’s a big difference between political cut and thrust and real hatred of other human beings.

If Robin’s à Patsy, your hatred is Neanderthal, it’s about civility pal.