Wings Over Scotland

The amount of folks that don’t get that is staggering. Excellent work, as Ruglonian said.

I ended up having a wee disagreement on twitter yesterday with someone thinking it was heartless of me to suggest telling an elderly person NOT to come out and do their shopping in the middle of a pandemic was a good thing. Heartless? There are alternatives to going out shopping for the elderly and disabled. There are safer ways for them to get company too.

Anyway, here in Oz it seems like it’s even worse; at least there in the UK the government seems to have woken up the last few days and is taking proper action. In Australia we’ve been told that people shouldn’t gather together and that’s it. Schools open, businesses open, pubs open, no suggestion of working from home. Oh wait! They DID close Bondi Beach today. Not all beaches, just Bondi.

On the topic of locking the school gates. I find it unbelievable that when the UK Government said that schools would be open for key workers that they hadn’t even got a list of who fell into that category. It just strikes me that any half competent government would have been planning for worst case scenarios and talking to unions and head teachers two weeks ago. Just gives the impression of incompetence or not taking seriously what was happening elsewhere.

That’s it 2020 = End of the world!

Why?

Kenny Rogers has died aged 81.

🙁

He knows when to fold ‘em!

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The Tories are so full of shit making bad decisions and vacillating.

UK Media doing their bit not asking the essential questions of who, why, where, what, how.
Useless.

OK – They claim they have stock piled all supplies necessary, so why are they all short of the essentials? Why is it taking 2 weeks to send out the first trucks, is everything in the trucks and
How long can those supplies last? When is the next delivery?

How can Amazon deliver the next day and Tory NHS takes weeks?
Take the non tax paying Amazon system and trucks and deliver what they need.

Schools should stay open, then they should be closed then some schools should stay open for some
I identified Essential workers children??? Just doesn’t make sense.

Bars, Clubs, Restaurants to be closed which obviously leads to all workers, in their millions being made redundant. After the obvious they announce that some could get up to 80% of their wages.

When is the money available, how do you claim it, do Zero hours and part time workers get it,
Is it 80% only for those on the minimum wage and have they now set a new lower minimum.
Some people might get up to £2,500?
Is that for retired Doctors coming back to help? Who gets that?

My wife is self employed and now had no business but all the overheads of an office, rent, rates, broadband, line rental, Electricity, etc.

She will need to walk away from it with no where to go but it sounds like she might get a loan.
Debt is no use to her as she needs people to travel and travelling has stopped across the globe and
Probably preventative for the next year.
She couldn’t consider borrowing for a year to pay the bills from other companies to find people in general still aren’t travelling as they try to play catch up on mortgages, increased food costs due to Brexit and trying to build some sort of savings cushion again.

We need ventilators and China had all the ventilators they ever needed which are now redundant.
How about we buy them and have Amazon deliver them tomorrow?

I’ve been saying for years that the Tory NHS austerity will face a major Flu epidemic and thousands
will needlessly die.

The English seem oblivious to, or happy with right wing extremist policies to cast out the elderly the weak the unemployed and the general workforce.

For these reasons we need to cut all possible ties with them and wish them well.

Scotland is for the Sovereign Scots – A Government Of the people , For the people, By the people!

Andrew Davidson says:21 March, 2020 at 7:25 am

I ended up having a wee disagreement on twitter yesterday with someone thinking it was heartless of me to suggest telling an elderly person NOT to come out and do their shopping in the middle of a pandemic was a good thing.

There is a serious issue of people going without because of unnecessary panic buying. This should have been dealt with a least a week ago here buy the supermarkets limiting purchases. The government needs to step in and sort this out.

More importantly though, they need to enforce periods of the week where elderly are vulnerable people are only allowed into supermarkets to do their shopping in order to stop infection which is happening now. I heard some supermarkets are doing this now but if they don’t have the ability to stop younger folk from going in without going trouble then the measure is useless.

Another nice one Chris.

Apologies to bdtt and all others on here last night.

I was a narky little bastard.

No excuses 🙁

Maybe some good will come from this.

Pangolin’s Revenge looks set to take some of us, make a lot of people ill and afraid, and work our support services and NHS to the bone. But we have to make it count for something, and that’s being a better Nation when we emerge out the other side.

We need to see the wisdom in having resources on standby. We need more spare capacity in our Hospitals. We need more bed capacity in the Highlands and Islands. We need stocks of ventilators, masks, gloves, suits and protective equipment. And if we don’t ever need it, why then we celebrate, and never succumb to the notion that unneeded preparedness was a wasted resource.

Heads up Scotland, that mindset which values foresight and preparedness, that “putting stuff aside in case we need it” … that mindset is the reason Norway has an oil fund.

We can emerge from this knowing better how to deal with panic buyers. Maybe everybody needs to maintain at least one cupboard full of long life stores like tinned meats, beans and fruit. Don’t leave it until it’s all gone.

I remember reading a story years ago, about a big train crash in the UK. It was a long time ago, maybe in the 50’s or 60’s, but there was somebody from Europe on the train, German if I remember correctly. Anyway, he observed that in the immediate aftermath of the crash, before the rescue services got to the scene, the ordinary people helping the injured, First Aid, adopting triage to identify those most badly hurt, coordinating themselves to help get others free of the wreckage, send for backup etc… the people were so calm, organised and efficient that the German visitor took it as given that the ordinary British citizens were well trained in Civil emergencies and all of them knew exactly what to do.

That’s the kind of Scotland we should be nurturing and working towards.

We should be much less tolerant of these gobshite Newspapers and TV channels pedalling their lies and distortions. We’re not responsible for producing the shite, but we ARE responsible for tolerating it. There should be a reckoning for them and their bullshit. No proper Scottish Journalist should even consider getting a job with these shit stirring propaganda merchants, racists, xenophobes and alarmists.

Jeezo, look at the shite and contempt they print about Alex Salmond, yet these vultures get front row seats at the trial, while the defenders of liberty and principle like Craig Murray are shown the door. Not acceptable! Show the rats the door as penance for their lies and defamation. Maybe Scottish Courts need their own press corps, that is detached, professional, and objective, … and Scottish. A professional respected roll every journalist would aspire to become, not just the slimiest toady in the BritNat swamp.

Our Constitution, our sovereign Constitution should not be some obscure fragment of ancient folklore, but a common belief that is fixed in the mind of every sovereign Scottish citizen. All these gobshite politicians who pedal the lies about Scotland being extinguished need put in their place, and that includes the gobshite politicians who are allegedly on our side but seem inexplicably content to ignore the ramifications of serving a sovereign electorate. The Claim of Right is more than just words, but you wouldn’t bloody think so to look at them.

It’s time to grow up Scotland. We cannot just be British for 90% of the time and treat Scottish Nationalism as a hobby. We need to get our citizenry as clued up as possible on Scotland’s Sovereign Constitutional Birthright, and as a nation, we must appear to foreign observers as if we Scots must be trained to deal with civil emergencies and be ever alert to the colonial usurpation of their constitution sovereignty. We need to be good at being Scottish.

It’s not enough to mourn the past. Yes, we know the Highland clearances were a terrible injustice, but here, in the 21st Century, we have Barra crying out for more people. We have Enterprise Companies, we have social house builders, why can’t we give Barra special status to revitalise an integrated, mutually supportive Gaelic speaking community that is a living testimony to Scotland’s Gaelic culture and traditions? Find a way to make it work and make it viable so kids that born there can want for nothing and live a fulfilled life without moving away. Gaelic isn’t a language, it’s a culture and a philosophy, it’s a precious nation within our precious nation. The Gaelic community is our Scottish brother who got a doing from the British, and still needs our help to thrive again. It’s what brothers do.

If Scotland can be Anglicised, Scotland can be Caledoniafied. Scotland can be a nation that soars with it’s Eagles, doesn’t poison, trap, and destroy them for the obscene and perverse 19th Century blood lust of the over privileged.

Life in Scotland could be the envy of the world. We have all the pieces in the beautiful jigsaw, but we’re just not putting them together yet.

It’s the Constitution stupid. That is step 1. It has always been step 1. It will always be the first step. Yet it remains the step we’ve never trod…. yet.

I’m tired of the self delusion and this interminable phoney war. It’s not preparedness. It IS a stupid waste of resource. Can we please, today, progress to Step 1 and start our journey to make our Nation safe from colonial exploitation and build the Nation we Scots want to live in?

Have the world acknowledge that the 1707 Treaty of Union has been breached. To coin a topical phrase, “This has gone far enough”.

Mike Cassidy
You are correct.
Even a BBC correspondent is now questioning the statistics and that says something!
The number of deaths attributed to Coronavirus include those who would have died anyway whereas the number of normal annual flu deaths, 8000, is on top of deaths from other causes.
I think there is going to be a lot more questioning of the stats in the coming days.

Saw the first bumble bee and first peacock butterfly yesterday.

Spring has sprung!

Hope springs eternal etc

Now I know why we lost in 2014. (Think about recent tribulations)

We won’t get fooled again.

It’s pretty much impossible to limit what people buy in supermarkets. You can limit it on one shop but what’s stops them going back a little later or a couple taking two trolleys. Even if you deal with that they can just visit multiple supermarkets. The only method would be to introduce a shopping voucher system that allows one shop per week, can’t see that happening or the public accepting it.

Like everything, the public want other people stopped doing things but an exception for themselves. We all have our Tim Martin in us, some are just more open about it.

You always hit the spot with your toons Chris and this is no exception.

This is a time for communities to really show they can cut the mustard with plans in train to deal with social distancing and isolation measures that keep us all safe and well.

Keep an eye on each other and dinnae be selfish but don’t pretend all is well if you need help. It’s important to be listening and asking for advise.

I’m looking forward to hugging everyone I know when we are all out of danger so keep safe folks!

I read a from No to Yes story in the National where a man claims he wants to vote yes to Independence as long as the Scottish government can *guarantee* the stability of Scotlands future and I thought yes and they can come round your house and make your bed and tuck you in at night

If anyone is waiting for any government or country in the entire universe to *guarantee* anything (except for Prime Minstrel Johnson that is) before they vote for Independence then they’ll never vote for it

Independence isn’t about *guarantees* of anything, it’s about having the ability to get rid of what doesn’t work (the Union with England) and resetting the decisions within your own competence to begin a society that does work

Scotland has had social isolation for thee hundred years so this Corona virus crisis that is something we can’t control is the very visible manifestation in a disease as to how Scotland has never had control of anything, all of our lives and our history we’ve had to hunker down till whatever England throws at us is over in the hope that when we emerge it’ll be fine

Well I’m afraid it won’t be fine because like the Corona virus England will disguise itself mutate and we’ll get it all over again except we can’t vaccinate ourselves against England……But wait hold on

There is a vaccine available to us all from Englands effects on Scotland, politically isolate England from us and we can’t catch what they keep infecting us with, we’ll be immune like every other normal country in the world

The Union makes us sick

What I find rather disgusting is that with all the isolation required and postponements till later dates that Johnson is determined to push on with negotiations to leave the EU.

Johnson is rightly calling for the closure of places where folk congregate yet Johnson is so loathing of Johnny Foreigner that even though his top negotiator, David Frost, and one of the EU’s top chiefs Michel Barnier, who both have Coronavirus, he’s still pushing on with it.

@ RepublicofScotland.

There are two imperatives driving Johnson’s timetable, tax havens and pensions. It also maybe that a no deal brexit is the ultimate aim and trumps any other considerations.

“starlaw says:
21 March, 2020 at 7:43 am
Meanwhile in London the tube rumbles on, the perfect virus spreading machine. This is all about money, the wage top ups are to prevent the breakdown of law and order.”

Key workers need to get to their place of employment and not everyone has a car ye ken.

@ James at 11.37: but wouldn’t it be a good idea if facemasks were handed out at Tube station entrance? I haven’t seen a single person with facemask or similar in any pictures of public places or Tube travel.

Burka wearers will be laughing, I hope.

Sarah says: 21 March, 2020 at 11:45 am

@ James at 11.37: but wouldn’t it be a good idea if facemasks were handed out at Tube station entrance? I haven’t seen a single person with facemask or similar in any pictures of public places or Tube travel.

Burka wearers will be laughing, I hope.

Face masks would help but in confined spaces, it would be inevitable that infected surfaces would be touched. There would need to be hand sanitising dispensers available on all stations which would need to be used by passengers before they get on and after they leave. Disposable gloves would probably also be needed.

Above all, a culture change in peoples attitudes would be needed because all these precautions are useless if people don’t follow them or lax with them.

Would it not be a tragedy if there was a power cut and all the unneeded contents of these overflowing freezers had to be dumped?

Anyone going out should take a bottle of water,soap and a towel,

just takes seconds to give your hands a quick clean after touching surfaces,

also cleans your hands to stop you passing on anything you have picked up,

you could have a basin in car/van,

the virus can stay infectious on a surface for hours so even if you don`t meet anyone you can still pick it up of surfaces.

I may simply be the case that I’ve missed the TV news footage showing the disinfection effort taking place in streets across the country.That I haven’t been able to miss such footage from elsewhere in the world is quite telling.

Interesting. Via Twitter

The minister told BuzzFeed News that Cummings and Vallance were “close allies” and claimed the government had “bet” the future of the UK on advice from a very small group of scientists that for a long time differed from the wider international consensus, and other members of SAGE.

link to buzzfeed.com

Scot Finlayson says: 21 March, 2020 at 12:19 pm

Anyone going out should take a bottle of water,soap and a towel,

just takes seconds to give your hands a quick clean after touching surfaces,

also cleans your hands to stop you passing on anything you have picked up,

you could have a basin in car/van,

the virus can stay infectious on a surface for hours so even if you don`t meet anyone you can still pick it up of surfaces.

Towels are havens for germs at the best of times. To get the items you mentioned you will be touching the bag holding them as all these items themselves with potentially affected hands. Of course, it is more effective than doing nothing but it can hardly be 100% effective.

If you are strict on hygiene and keep away from public spaces where you need to for example touch doors as well as public transport what is the chance of you bringing the coronavirus into your house and either getting yourself or co-inhabitants affected?

Has there been any scientific testing or advice given out about it?

Buy plant misters, I litre ones, 3 capfuls of domestos to 1 litre of water, use this as a spray, I have one for the car (albeit a wee 330ml one that I found in the wee local hardware stores.

@ Famous 15.

I sincerely hope there isn’t a power cut, my Freezer is at capacity.
That’s not from bulk purchasing recently, a lot of people like me get our mince 2.5 kg,stew 2.5 kg and chicken breasts 5kg from our butcher. They sell these packs all yr round. Works out way cheaper than the the supermarkets. I also buy veg from farm foods, again much cheaper and no waste. I screwed like like everybody for toilets rolls, soap and paracetamol though.

This is well worth a watch, could you imagine any broadcast channel in the UK exposing Boris Johnson’s lies in the same way.

link to twitter.com

Although Johnson has promised to beat the virus in 12 weeks, I assume he will resign if he fails, need a laughing emoji here.

Isolation

The French Way.

link to twitter.com

The irony!

link to twitter.com

Unfortunately for the health of our children, many schools will NOT be shut next week. It depends on what each local authority plans to do with school staff. The local authority next to mine requires all staff to report for duty on Monday to carry out as yet undefined tasks. One of those will be to look after the children of “key workers” but the list of such in the authority e-mail I have seen is so long that it is hard to think of a job that is not considered “key”. Even journalists are considered such, which is particularly ironical given the disgraceful reporting of the Salmond trial.

So, depending on the authority, pupils whose parents are deemed to be key workers could be turning up at their school without the buildings having been deep cleaned, to be “taught” by staff who will not have been tested for coronavirus. So much for social distancing in a safe environment. Many young people are asthmatic and may be particularly vulnerable.

The most important workers at this time are surely nurses and doctors and other hospital staff and it makes sense to give their children priority for supervision while they are at work but anything beyond that will surely see more and more pupils going back into schools whose cleanliness cannot be guaranteed.

In most EU countries, schools seem to be completely shut with strict “working from home” arrangements made between staff and pupils.

A stringent, general lock-down in society for a relatively short period has a chance of getting on top of this crisis but then Bojo would have to spend lots of money indemnifying workers and businesses from economic losses but his backers wouldn’t want that (unless fraudulent bankers were being bailed out), so all we get is fudge and warm words while ordinary people wonder where the money to survive will come from.

I’m fearful that the incompetence and indifference to suffering of this “government” will result in many more deaths than necessary and giving the Tories sweeping powers for two years as proposed per the Coronavirus Bill is simply madness. How can the opposition vote for such a thing?

So Norway is realising one hundred billion via liquidity to help the countries businesses and its people.

Just imagine what Scotland could be doing now if it had an oil fund. Instead it lined Englands pockets, helped build its infrastructure and financed Thatchers Falklands war.

“There are two imperatives driving Johnson’s timetable, tax havens and pensions.”

Golfnut.

Tax havens for sure, the EU recently put a British taxhaven (protectorate) on a blacklist.

Also I’m sure this came into force recently or is about to.

“The EU’s Anti-Tax Avoidance Directive (Atad) is an attempt to make sure companies (especially big digital companies and other multinationals) pay enough tax. … Exit tax rules – stops EU-based companies moving new products to lower-tax countries just before their development is completed to avoid tax.”

It could be WWIII outside right now, but Johnsons paymasters would still compel him to press ahead witha EU trade deal or a no deal Brexit.

If people in Scotland want to stay ahead of the game with this Corona situation, the best thing they can do is keep an eye on what’s happening in Europe. Whatever European countries implement, the UK plays catch up and adopts it two or three weeks later. Europe is trying to flatten the curve, the UK is behind the curve.

The pubs and clubs closed last night so logic tells you that the next thing to be hit will be the off licences. Once they run out of stock, they’ll close and they’ll be followed by most of the other shops too, apart from maybe big supermarkets and essential shops, such as pharmacies and so on.

Oh and BTW, keep your eye on Grangemouth.

One day, I’m hoping, that there might be an enquiry into all of this. I mean a proper enquiry demanded by the public, not one of those designed to obfuscate and ‘kick-into-the-long grass’ affairs.

Enough of the scientific community are enraged by the dither and hesitation displayed by the so-called expert advice available to the government. The range of advice has been too narrow and conservative in its outlook. What was needed was a much more radical and flexible approach with a willingness to look to other international models for information on how to deal with this outbreak. How much this was due to the government’s own bias towards a laissez-faire attitude initially to this crisis in influencing the advice they chose to listen to, is already being questioned.

Much time has been wasted in not being reactive enough. Other countries like China and South Korea were showing the way with extensive testing and even a small commune like Vo Eugeneo in the Veneto has been demonstrating how effective the twin tracks of testing and isolation could be in suppressing the spread of the virus. Already their experience has shown that if you simply test those who are showing symptoms then you could be missing the even larger proportion who are asymptomatic and therefore, spreading it.

Instead, in the UK, there has been foot-dragging, not enough testing kits and protective clothing for health workers. There has been over-reliance on ‘best scientific advice’ which has to be thrown out in favour of new hurried arrangements, desperately trying to catch up. So much for that ‘best scientific’ advice.

What’s the story with pubs in Scotland? Are they open or closed? Borsi Johnson specifically spoke about England yesterday:

“Announcing the decision in the fight against the coronavirus, the prime minister said that he realised it went against what he called “the inalienable free-born right of people born in England to go to the pub”

@ JaMuR

Well, I very nearly did and I was tempted as part of a reply to JGedds post above but it would be like flogging a dead horse now. Most people, or at least those who can be arsed to read my posts, know what I think of her and now particularly, her lack of decisiveness and leadership over Scotlands health concerning Corona.

No doubt something will fire me up and I will mention her but for now, I’m just trying to tell people what the story is over here regarding the Corona situation, because you’re not getting the real story from Boris Johnson and his chums.

JGedd

Unless “O” grades in chemistry and physics count, I don’t have the credentials to dole out much in the way of “best scientific advice”.

However mine to the government would be…

Continue curtailing large gatherings and unnecessary travel.

Isolate as many as possible of the “vulnerable groups” in strictly supervised, requisitioned holiday villages and hotels.

Hire people to support the home isolation of the rest of the vulnerable.

Crank up testing of those who’s circumstances pose the biggest threat of spreading the virus.

Quarantine any who get the virus .

Advise the rest of us to carry on about our business as normally as possible, while taking all the necessary precautions.

I’m sure such a regime would be at least as effective as the present course of action in averting a collapse of the health service as infection rates reach their peak., and in curtailing the overall death toll

And exponentially more beneficial to the financial and mental well-being of the populace, the business community and the public purse.

As the Corona cases mount BBC Scotland web pages run a scare story regarding the cleanliness of a Scottish hospital with the best mortality rate for the virus. Thoroughly despicable reporting to scare people who may already be vulnerable and very ill going to this hospital.

Has nobody told them that independence is currently in abeyance or is it still their job to make sure there must be a negative story in Scotland which matches any that are run about England. The SNHS must be reported as inferior (maybe it was a Johnson memo to them).

O/T

Just thinking ahead a bit to the 4th April 2020 when we should have been in Arbroath and definitely on the 6th April when we celebrate 700th Anniversary of the Declaration.

Anybody fancy hanging their saltires out the window on these dates?

If it takes off, we could do it each time we should have been having an AOUB march so at least the Indy community is still keeping the light on.

Or would it cause a problem with neighbourly relations at this time of strife and people helping each other.

“If you are suggesting that we should negotiate an extension to the transition period then you need to be clearer … but that involves negotiations with the EU!”

Yes Sensibledave, you are correct, however it doesn’t change the fact that Johnson is acting disgracefully by pushing on for a deal or no deal, whilst telling other to postone or delay, such is his hatred for Johnny Foreigner.

Of course glorious isolation was a mainstay of English imperialism all throughout the Brexit campaign. Johnson et al must be feeling at home during these very trying times.

Field hospitals could be set up in the football and other stadiums in the summer months, Wimbledon etc, many have capacity to close roofs too. Just a thought as we scale up 🙁

I noted that the venomous reptile that is Kirsty Wark couldn’t help herself and had a poisonous dig at Ian Blackford on snake-pit night on the Brainwashing Corp over the coronavirus this past week.

Stay healthy folks unless you are a yoon that is.

UK deaths rise to 233, as 53 more people die in England, 7 deaths in Scotland, 5 deaths in Wales and still only the 1 death in NI.

90 deaths in London, the most in the UK, not the place to be it seems. Over 5000 confirmed cases in the UK and rising.

I see Johnson wasn’t at today’s press conference, he likes his weekends off, or has he gone on holiday again. To be honest the statements were more coherent today without the Swedish chef presentation.

It’s a bit sickening having to watch Scottish MP’s/MSP’s go cap in hand during this crisis to beg an old Etonian to do what is needed in Scotland.

I can’t understand why we let someone else rule our land, cap in hand!

Self-isolation exploits: No panic buying here, playing the long game…
Spent the morning sorting through my strawberry plants and relocating them for maximum sunlight exposure to hopefully increase yield.
The plants were previously in an area that was affected by shadowing in the latter part of the day, thus losing sun exposure.
Started digging over the area where they were to open up another 10ft x 10ft veg bed.
Thankfully think this will be the last of the heavy digging as reckon there is now enough area for me to be self sufficient in fruit and veg.

#TheGoodLife

I just need a young Felicity Kendall to rock up now…

Jfngw

Think it thru.
The biggest threat to food supplies is the stock pilers

Use the basket and throw away the gloves.
Go each day for fresh air and exercise and keep 6 feet away from others.

That isn’t hard to do and it gives everyone the essentials.

According to twitter, there’s a cruise ship heading to the Shetlands. If we were independent we could close our borders as others have done.

I notice on Sky News that the two Cross of St George flags are morphing into U.J.’s.

It’s time Nicola closed the border to people movement regardless whether it’s reserved or not. Then the fun will begin.

How many staff do you suppose they have at fuel depots and places? What about a refinery like Grangemouth? There must be hundreds, if not thousands. No fuel = no suppliers = no food.

We’re going to have to eat ma dug at some point but there’s 4 of us so at least we’ll get a leg each.

Make soup from the tail or something.

@ Mist 001.

Distribution resilience is a key issue in any Disaster recovery planning.

If fuel becomes an issue, and it might, distribution will be one of the top 3 functions to be maintained. Fuel rationing will come into force for non essential usage.
That’s what should happen, but this is Westminsters responsibility, so keep your fingers they don’t manage to fuck this up.

Breeks at 0912am,

Another excellent post. Every word valid. If only our government leader would inspire such positivity, instead of wittering on about what we can’t do, unless Boris allows it.

As regards politicians supposedly on our side, I especially like your lines;

“All these gobshite politicians who pedal the lies about Scotland being extinguished need put in their place, and that includes the gobshite politicians who are allegedly on our side but seem inexplicably content to ignore the ramifications of serving a sovereign electorate. The Claim of Right is more than just words, but you wouldn’t bloody think so to look at them.”

To completely misappropriate another political phrase for all those in charge who have wasted the last four years and failed to even try for independence, ‘it’s the constitution, stupid.’ Just not sure why the SNP shy away from it. We are in a union, we are NOT owned by England, yet too many (including in the SNP leadership) behave as though we are.

Of course we are where we are right now, with corona, but I do really, really wish that Scotland had a leader, for whom independence was of importance. Somebody who could inspire us, to provide real leadership. We were lucky to have that once before, so let us hope such times will come again.

Emergency, what fucking emergency as Ian Duncan Smith comes out to argue against the introduction of a universal citizen income on the grounds that it would be a disincentive to work.

Instead Mr Duncan Smith wants an extension of the benefits policy.

With Tories like this in control of the government this is when you know that we are not all in this together.

Emergency powers must be resisted. Now is not the time to allow the Tories to wage a class war against the suffering.

@Dakk (8.49) –

Around 80 are as good as dead in Ayr hospital.

The tsunami is building.

What the fuck are you playing at?

Evidence?

If you don’t have any, shut your noise-hole, ya dick.

I was sent on a WhatsApp from a foreign Doctor
Who has been working for 2 years in a Bristol Hospital.

He has been working all the extra shifts to help with the Corona Crisis.
He has obviously been a higher rate tax payer throughout.

He has received a demand from the Tory Facist Home Office
Demanding a payment of £1,200.00 if he wants to stay for a period
Of up to 3 years.

Good job I didn’t take the hypocritical oath as I’d leave now and let the
Bastards die for this.

Pay them to risk your life to save them knowing they will still send you packing?
Not on their Tory voting, Johnny Foreigner hating, lives.

There are so many posting here who are clearly just sowing lies and depression.

In a time of crisis that is tractor ed ery.

Where is Dora when you need her?

Disaffection and alarm even! Dora 1914.

It’s ok Vera Lynn We’ll meet again coming over the airwaves shortly.

Breeks and Robert Louis , Breeks your comments are definitely spot on , oh how I wish the SNP would gain some balls and act in the BEST interests of Scots

I wrote on here some time ago that NS in LEADING Scotland to independence would go down in the history books , books that will be read and absorbed by students and academics , books that our school children will learn history from and realise that the union was a concocted lie and an aberration exposed by NS

What an ACCOLADE that would have been , to have your name immortalised and revered in the annals of Scots history

Instead what we have is a leader???? who has capitulated and submitted to a coven of imbecilic arseholes lead by 2 of the most incompetent fake politicians the UK has had , treeza and bozo , 2 idiots that exemplify the calibre of politics and politicians in the uk

What NS will go down in history is as the LEADER who cared more about the freedom and feelings of women with cocks and was willing to sacrifice and ignore independence and our real Scots women

This might be worth monitoring.
link to travellingtabby.com

@ twathater.

No argument from me regarding what should have been, not might or could have been, but should have been the SNP’s stance on our Constitunional position. The solid legal rock of Constitutional Sovereignty in opposition to Westminsters shooglie unlawful Convention of Parliamentary Sovereignty. I say that as an SNP member and a supporter of Nicola Sturgeon, a fan boy still, because she has undoubtedly been/is a great FM and ambassador for our nation. However deep our anger and disappointment, our disgust even, at how limp wristed our Scottish Government has been in wielding the Constitutional sword, we are where we are, still standing, still moving forward.
The insistence that Scotland, alone amongst all other nations, must adhere to the legal boundaries set by another nation is nonsense, England is a joint signatory of the Treaty of Union, Westminster is bound by Scots law as fast as it is bound by English law, it is unlawful for it to do otherwise, and yet it does. The Treaty of Union, Scots law and the Crown should be the route to dissolving this union, no permission sought or required.

I think it’s great that so many businesses are offering free drinks, food, taxi rides or whatever to nhs workers, but wouldn’t it be nice if this was also offered to other “frontline” services? Such as supermarket staff who are also exposed to the virus, and in the UK being abused by panic buyers!!, by staying open for us.
Here in Spain the population every evening at 8pm go out onto their terraces, balconies, hang out of their windows and clap to show their appreciation of the health carers/staff, supermarket staff and police, keeping us all safe during this most awful of times.

Jackie
You really are a sad person.
This is not a time to be pedantic.

From 2016:

“THE NHS would be unable to cope if Britain suffered a major flu pandemic, according to England’s chief medical officer.”

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What has happened in Tory England since 2010?

10 years of Tory cuts to NHS, treating nurses & junior doctors like shit with pay freezes and heavier workloads- 43,000 nurses left ,10000 EU nurses left because of referendum. No safety equipment & 17000 less beds than in 2010.

They UK Government knew a pandemic would be a fucking disaster, kept the report of Op Cygnus out of the public domain and continued to slash and burn their NHS.

And still BawJaws and House Jock BritNats have the cheek to say Scotlands NHS is worse!

The Tories are complicit in the unnecessary deaths Theo’s outbreak will cause but as with the other deaths of the poor, the disabled and the vaulnarable these Neo Facist fans of Eugenics don’t give a fuck.

Thanks Gerry, very good site, good on the lad who’s put it together. Bookmarked! ?

As soon as you criticize the wee closet Unionist Nicola Sturgeon, you yourself get labelled a Unionist.

The Nicola Sturgeon fan club come crawlin out of the woodwork.

They, like their Nicola, want to take the gradualist approach regarding Independence.

I think the Nicola Sturgeon fan club is full of the Woke Brigade and they have infiltrated Wings to try to convince us that their Nicola is never wrong,,,,,,about anything.

Ye cannae win.

Jackie
You really talk rubbish.
If you can bring yourself to look at the BBC Scotland part of the website you will see all the Scottish updates including advice from NS.
There is actually more than on the English part of the website.

Pete

I was talking about all the so called ” National” news programmes,,,they are all about that fuckin dump to the South of the Scottish border.

Independence would have gave us a hard border between Scotland and shiteland,,,but because we voted to stay part of this stinkin Union we are reaping the wind of remaining nothing more than a colony of engerland.

Here was me thinking B was the capital of Britain

@Dan
“It is therefore very misleading to refer to the group of folk we elect to Holyrood as The Scottish Government.”

Says it all really.
All those years of arguing the toss about Gers and “Scotland pays its way ” “Scottish Govt does not run up debts” etc

All swept aside.

As if King Kong has just jumped down from a tree.

I’ve said it before and I will say it again,,,,

We need to start gettin fuckin angry,

Being a Woke gets you no fuckin where.

There should be county border controls set up at the border with engerland.

Keep these bastards out.

It’s the least we can do at this moment in time.

Dan @ 10.28
It’s becoming more and more obvious by the day that Scotland needs it own powers if we are to be governed in line with they ethos of the politicians we voted for.
Mibbi the snowball that starts the avalanche could be this mad dash to the Highlands?
There are Snow Gates and I think it’s the local councils who have the powers to closed them…..a tweak to the criteria, a.k.a. snow,could see them shut and manned….The locals would support it, and if Holyrood did too, at the very least even if it did nothing for Indy,it would help the Highlands and make the statement that the Highlands are not a playground for other’s and cannot be so ill used!!!

Because we know Nicola Sturgeon has the super powers of Captain Marvel and can fly into the sun to release just enough ultra violet light to kill off the Corona virus without killing all of us then blast the earth with light from her eyes to dig a giant moat between Scotland and England I’m very angry with her for not using those super powers, she’s just one rubbish super hero and it’s time we voted for Iron Man

Scotland definitely deserves better

Meanwhile, to use a word I detest I hear the old c*nt holed up in Windsor Castle with the best of medical care is going on live TV to address the nation with Number Ten saying the queen’s address ..’ would be hugely important in calming anxiety and strengthening the will of the public ‘

Like f*uck it will.

She like the other elites, hiding away with their wealth, their rank, their privilege will only serve to reinforce what a rotten system

This epidemic, this impending holocaust, could have been tackled earlier. But the government deliberately didn’t act preferring instead to reassure a gullible public that everything was well prepared and that the best thing folks could do was sneeze into @ tissue, dispose of tissue and wash hands.

Fuck the queen and her Government for their policies. Get the old c*nt on TV to remind us.

Its interesting to note that we in the UK are at the stage Italy was at a few weeks ago only we have more deaths.

It’s also very worrying that we aren’t in full lockdown yet. It would appear that the sooner full lockdown is applied in a country the less stress their health services come under. Stopping a spike in hospital admissions, which will overwhelm our NHS is the goal for now.

Full lockdown must surely just be days away, will it be too late, and will we see a sharp rise in confirmed cases and deaths because we left it longer than we should have, I fear we will.

Isn’t this getting on your goat yet?

She has been more than happy to perpetuate the myth that she’s the first minister and is in charge of Scotland and this Corona situation has exposed the lie and shown her and the Scottish parliament to be powerless and toothless when it comes to the crunch. Mrs. Murrell has been shown to be nothing more than a mouthpiece for Westminster, she is in effect no more than the secretary of state for Scotland which is why there is total silence from Alister Jack.

She is permitted to say certain things at certain times by Westminster to give the appearance to the Scottish people that she’s actually in charge, but obviously she’s not. That’s why she’s currently silent, she hasn’t been given anything to say. If she really was allowed, she’d be giving daily status updates to the people and the media about things like the increase in cases, preventative measures being taken and so on but nope, not a cheep from her.

I’ll tell you a good thing with this Corona, is that Scotland, the UK and the rest of the world has completely changed and will never return to how it was less than three months ago.

All it takes is for someone within the SNP to have the guts to make a power grab and take over from Mrs. Murrell, someone with leadership qualities, who will do the things which I’ve just moaned about and then I reckon, we’re in with a serious shout of becoming an independent Scotland.

Scotland will be recognised as an independent Country if it starts behaving like an independent country and that means having someone who will take decisive action in spite of Westminster if the need calls for it.

This Coronavirus has delivered that opportunity to us on a plate if only someone would step up to it and clearly, Mrs. Murrell is not that someone.

We are on the cusp of independence and it’s ours if we take control NOW.

Wales now up to 12 deaths, Scotland now at 7 deaths, and NI still on the 1 death.

England has the most deaths possibly to be expected with its larger population.

New York state, appears to be the worst hit state in the US for now. As the authorities scour the globe for urgent medical equipment which its short of.

42 of Africas 50 odd countries have been infected by the Coronavirus, God help that continent, for it has neither the resources or medical expertise to deal with the pandemic.

Pete 10.31
“Maybe you’re not a BBC licence payer”

What the fuck is a BBC Licence Pete???

Do tell…

Re the coronavirus, seen on the facebook.

“The hugs are going out all over Europe.”

“Yes, you’re right it is a PFI carpark but she should have known this before advising health staff not to take public transport but to take private transport instead.”

Mist001.

She did say it at FMQ’s that’s nothing yet could be done about the PFI carparks, but I agree she should be more proactive at this time. I know she let us down badly with regards to independence, that aside for the moment these are exceptional times, which require exceptional acts.

The Scottish government neither have the finacies nor the devolved authority to go it alone in these unprecedented times.

We must bide our time until this virus is defeated, then we can return to the business of independence and Sturgeon reticence on it.

The next series of “In The Line Of Duty” is going to be crap.

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Willie @ 12.25pm

Agree entirely. You might think that the public would become more and more revolted by the sight of these super-rich royals being trotted out to deliver sanctimonious addresses. But no. Don’t get it myself.

While the rest of us have real worries about loved ones and their safety these people are secure and sealed off in luxury. Yet we are told that the old trout is going to lecture us yet again on how we should all pull together and how she is in it with us. It’s monstrous and farcical at the same time.

I’ve sometimes thought that the monarchy is like ‘a canary down the mine’ for the elite. If the public are willing to put up with the ostentatious wealth of the royals and the inordinate amount of money spent on absurd pomp and ceremony which is flaunted in our faces, but still the populace meekly sucks it up, then they know that the elite establishment is safe.

Quite intrigued by the approach of Israel who I always respect as being an exceedingly smart and forward thinking nation.
They are putting the elderly and vulnerable into complete lockdown and allowing the rest of the population to carry on as normal. They estimate that once around 70% of the fit population have ‘herd immunity’, the old and infirmed will then be allowed to mingle with the rest of the population. They reckon this could be 2 to 3 months.
Interesting.