Wings Over Scotland

Prime Minstrel Bojo the clown addresses the CEOs of several large companies asking them to manufacture ventilators for the sick decides to make one of his famous jokes about the dying and says “We could call it operation last gasp”

This idiot is so far removed from the human condition of people who are not of his kind that he thinks it’s funny to joke about the possibility of a human being’s last desperate attempt to breathe air before they die

Everybody laugh now and remember this is the leader England wanted and voted for in overwhelming numbers

Anybody still unsure about Independence?

Do you just sprout the same pish daily mist001?

Everyday its Mrs Murrell does not want independence. We get it. Your not happy you misrible bastard.

Thank fuck you moved away.

In epidemiological terms R0 is a measure of how many people and infections individual will cross infect.

In an outbreak an R0 > 1 means the outbreak continues. R0 < 1 and it peters out.

Seasonal flu had been reported as having an R0 of around 1.3.

Covid 19 had an R0 aseesed at between 2.0 and 3.11. Covid 19 is therefore notably more contagious than seasonal flu.

The death rate for Covid 19 could be six times more than seasonal flu. It could in fact be even many more times so beyond that.

Location,proportion of elderly, healthcare resource availability – they all play a part.

So tell me. With data like this was HM Government in Public Health Adverts only five weeks ago telling us that everything was under control and that the biggest thing we could do was sneeze into hankies and wash hands.

Certainly hadn't turned out that way – so what's our government being doing.

( And in that we should ignore Sturgeon who is effectively only jogging alongside Johnson's Westminster Tory government )

Dulce et decorum est, in p to patria mori.

As true today as it was all those years ago. Take it on the chin. (© Boris Johnson 2020 )

Surely this site is no longer “Wings over Scotland”, but “Whinge over Scotland”?

By his absence and lack of any control the ‘Rev’ has allowed this once great armoury of information to be infiltrated.

Apart from a few posters, this is now a cesspit of hatred of our FM and her party.

mist001 is obviously the Rev!

sassenach says:
18 March, 2020 at 7:51 am

…this is now a cesspit of hatred of our FM and her party.

Seems the FM and her party were more than content to foment a cesspit of hatred and smear for Alex Salmond, one of our finest statesmen and so nearly the father of our Nation, who did more Scottish Independence than Nicola and her dud Wokist all-stars ever have, combined.

Actually makes you wonder what they’re plotting for Joanna Cherry… beyond trying to change the rules to keep her out of Holyrood.

We should have a sweepstake:- bullying, misogyny, sexual impropriety, expenses, or being a vampire… any old groundless smear will do, just as long as they keep it secret amongst themselves where they can whisper from the shades on anonymity eh?

Watch your back Joanna.

Pete says:
18 March, 2020 at 8:45 am
People on here keep talking about Sheridan and Salmond in reverential tones.
I’m sorry, these two are really horrible individuals who now have no credibility within any civilised society.

Keep taking the tablets, Pete, and do what nurse tells you.

I haven’t been too immersed in the Corona virus drama, I swung between “don’t lose any sleep over it, its over hyped” and “you’re not taking this seriously enough” in almost equal measure.

Reading about it gives no clear irrefutable practicable guidance.

Too many differing points of view, like I was not the only one moving from one view to the opposite.

Now I am spending a bit more on the “you are not taking this seriously enough” side. I went to get some supplies last night, nothing out of the ordinary, and saw scenes that reminded me of news reports of soviet era supermarkets, No fresh fruit or veg, no bread, frozen foods and pasta cleared out.

Reinforced the “not taking this seriously” side.

See I do understand that if we keep to our normal patterns there are no shortages, but how does that balance against feeding the family for up to 14 days if we were forced into lock down?
It could happen tomorrow, in theory.
Logically that suggests that we each have at least two weeks food in the house just in case. Doesn’t it?

“That is silly, overreacting, selfish.”
Is it?
Is is so hard to understand the base drivers in human beings? To expect a person to take a chance on not being able to feed their children, because they are convinced they may confined for two weeks?

I haven’t decided on that just yet.

Herd immunity: “The need of the many outweighs the needs of the few” That too is possibly a logical statement, or a convenient one. Its fine if you are one of the many.

I am one of the few.

That’s ok, my life is of less worth that yours due to some genetic quirk it seems. I understand, it makes sense. to you.
Its an odd decision, in some respects. There may be a person in the few fulfilling a role of great importance, to other individuals, to an organisation, to society, to a family.

but “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”

The herd immunity name doesn’t really tell what it entails, how many have heard the word and fully understand what it means?

The SNP: I am becoming disillusioned with the lack of progress, criticism of Nicola Sturgeons leadership is resonating more, the “woke” brigade irritate me. I have no personal experience of this. only what I read. Are my sources impartial?

Is any source impartial?

The reports of the Alex Salmond case as a political move orchestrated, or at least facilitated by some in SNP is troubling.
If proven to be true.

Sickening, if true the SNP are no better than any other political party worse in that I was naive enough to put my faith in them.
If true.

A thought is not an idea, it may only be a wish. It is only idea when there are practical steps to achieve it.
The SNP should:
Declare UDI
Close the border,
Hold a referendum without section 30
etc.
Fine thoughts indeed, wishes, hopes to achieve our shared objective.
But not yet ideas.
But do we know and understand the steps to reach the goal? To know the legislation, the processes, needed to turn the wish into an idea? Do we know how to put them into effect?

Strange days.

Coronavirus Bill, scheduled to become law by end of month.

It is claimed to be aimed at keeping us safe. But is the transfer of unchallengeable power to the state (UK) for up to two years!

link to gov.uk

Neo Fascist ‘One Nation’ Tory Martial Law coming our way soon.

No IndyRef2 for the foreseeable.

Could BawJaws use this legislation to shut Holyrood ‘in the National interest’?

🙁

Maolbeatha says:
18 March, 2020 at 9:29 am

…The reports of the Alex Salmond case as a political move orchestrated, or at least facilitated by some in SNP is troubling.
If proven to be true…..

The Alex Salmond case reeks of something being not quite right, but it’s very tricky to put your finger on it. It’s a tune on a piano where every sound is a bum note. The more you learn, the more questions you have. For a start, setting aside the question of guilt, when it seems so credible to doubt whether some of these events even took place, how does this entire scenario even make it to a trial before a jury?

I’ll make no bones about it, I have faith in Alex Salmond, and I certainly want him to be proved innocent because I earnestly believe that’s exactly what he is, but for me, his own testimony in defence was refreshing for its sincerity and spontaneity.

I have known deception and conspiracy first hand. I have seen and heard testimony from a Planning Committee brazenly rewriting the truth of events which I was there to witness myself. No shades of grey or ambiguity, a quite deliberate bold as brass lie. The conspirators focus on making their own narrative consistent with their own conspiracy, and this delivers (in my case) five narratives which are remarkably similar in tone, composition, and agreed deception, almost as if one hand penned them all. Add to this, typically, not one of the conspirators will comment beyond what they’ve said for fear of deviating from the narrative, because any departure from their script risks the undoing of the whole conspiracy by simple cross reference.

But I’m going to repeat again the BTL comment I read on Craig Murray’s blog… because I think it’s quite possible that it hits the nail most squarely on the head.

Hattie McTattie
March 16, 2020 at 17:58
It wasn’t meant to come to court. It was, we know from evidence, an internal SNP matter meant to – in the words of the witness herself – to keep AS from returning.

Unfortunately someone leaked to the Daily Radar – and hence to the police – who have considerably more powers than Mr McCann. That’;s when it got out of control – and they had to hang together – as the old saying goes – to avoid hanging separately…

Suddenly a lot of the boxes are ticked. It isn’t a high stakes smear campaign by Mission Impossible Security Forces from a masterful Tom Clancy conspiracy. Apply the principle of Occam’s razor, and suddenly it’s revealed as a grubby and amateurish attempt to undermine someone’s integrity, and a rotten, fetid, clique mentality which you will find throughout Local Authority fiefdoms all over the country.

I hope you win Mr Salmond. Then I hope you burn them out of their crevices with fire. Then I hope you take command of Scotland again, finish what you started, and bring forward the Constitutional Independence of our Sovereign Nation.

If the FM wanted to nail the former FM wouldn’t she have made a complaint against him herself which would have carried far more weight with the public along with the other fake complaints that are mostly from people within the civil service and as it turns out on the same social media group, and why would the current FM still have been phoning the former FM after charges were made but before an investigation took place

I know it’s convenient for the folk who’ve taken to disliking the current FM for everything and anything they can think of but in this case had she wanted the former FM crushed as people accuse her of she could have achieved his end a lot easier and more efficiently than this trial with the weakest of circumstantial evidence which is crumbling by the day

Everybody has their beliefs but they’re basing them on personal preferences without evidence, my own belief is still that this is a UK led smear that looks like the usual Brit style amatuerish attempt just like when Alistair Carmichael and Mundell attempted Frenchgate on the current FM and even then they had help from the journalist liar James Cook and the BBC and they still couldn’t make it stick

All of this ridiculous trial had to proceed on was *she said he said* in part of a building where nobody else was present and in a couple of cases the complainant had zero evidence she was even in the building

I really don’t believe the current FM isn’t a tad cleverer than to invent this pile of flimsy nonsense

The Ministry of Justice in Westminster replied to a letter from Jackson Carlaw and three other Tory MSPs but the MoJ replied to the Scottish government for clarification on “Who is Jackson Carlaw and what is a MSP”

This tells us an awful lot about an awful lot

When the Tories say £350 million it immediately sounds like a lot of money to ordinary folk but to businesses within the UK serving 65 million people they might just as well have said 35 pence

The upcoming Coronavirus Bill

link to twitter.com

I wonder if the illustrious House of Lords whose occupants are mostly multi-millionaires covered with cobwebs and spiders, will be made to close down soon? Lords should, therefore, be unable to claim their £300(?) per daily attendance fee. No?

We await with bated breath!

If only there had been a way for Scotland to have been already Independent and to have saved an oil fund like Norway to protect its people from economic and health shocks

Maybe some people might be thinking about the time they were told the oil in Scotland was *the wrong oil* *worthless oil*
*oil that won’t last long* and failed to look at Norway jumping up and down with excitement at the prospect of having the same *worthless oil*

Now we’re all going to get sick and some will die and Scotland must depend on England *borrowing money* to create debt in Scotland because the English government pissed away every penny of the money Scotland would have had to buffer us from this shock just like Norway is doing right now with their Trillion dollars of savings

Even if there is a cost to Independence, whatever it is must be worth paying to divorce ourselves from English governments who impose year after year of ideological austerity on Scotland so that London can become richer and now must charge Scotland more money and saddle us with debt that England creates all culminating in denying Scotland the ability to grow or prosper

So after ten years of austerity we now have a further probably ten years of it again because the English government can’t hold on to a penny in the piggy bank without spending it on crap nobody in Scotland voted for or wants

Every Unionist in Scotland should be hiding their faces from the public and permanently self isolating themselves for what they’ve done to each and every one of us and our children in the name of their sectarian bigoted racist loyalty to their English Union

Thanks for the links Nana ( missed you – hope you are keeping well ).

The Corona Virus Bill is deeply worrying – as David Alan Green points out.

Many/ most of the powers needed are already contained in the Civil Contingencies Act – which requires a rolling 28 day review. This new power lasts 2 years – during which time Elections can/will be cancelled.

For those of us who thought the plan was a no deal Brexit, followed by chaos, followed by implementation of the Civil Contingencies Act – and closure of Holyrood – this new act overtakes this big time.

The Civil Contingencies Act – has specific rules with regards the Devolved Administrations – not sure what this new act has. What is suspicious is how quickly they’ve managed to draft it – normally legislation of this importance and magnitude takes (literally) years to draft and fine tune.

This is probably the easiest way by which Westminster can neuter Holyrood. They will grab it with both hands.

Pascal Meier,MD
@DrPascalMeier

The super spreaders of #COVID19 are probably not the old, coughing, obviously ill,

but the asymptomatic, young undetected.

“I just don’t understand why anyone could welcome this as an economic response of any maturity, dignity or care”

No, me neither K1

@Breeks, I’m never to far away 🙂

@Daisy, I pop in from time to time to see who is misbehaving and to share anything important I come across.
Hope you are well too.

Schools to clos on Friday.

FM live right now

link to twitter.com

Nana

Some on here obviously like you, but can I put this as kindly as possible,,,if you return to posting your links, would you not go overboard with them.

Last time you were a bit OTT with the links and I think you were starting to piss people off.

So my advice would be to go easy on the links,,,,or as someone suggested a while back,,,why not start up a blog entitled “Nana’s Links”

Just a thought.

No offence intended Nana,,,just friendly advice.

“School’s out for ever” as someone once sang about.

Hundreds of noisey, cheeky wee bastards coming to a street near you.

Cannae wait!!!

Nana take no notice of those who wish you to curb your enthusiasm.
I always looked for your links and was always amazed at how comprehensive they were.
More please

Would it not just be better to let this thing rip and get back to normal life?
My wife and I are over 70 and quite happy to take our chances.
This new way of (not) living is going to kill more people with over eating, idleness and boredom.
Just read a paper by a Prof in Stanford who disagrees with the statistics and reckons the death rate is likely to be much lower than forecast.
Any opinions?

Now hearing Boris intends imposing UK lock down this week.?

Nana….I know you know enough to know the type…total ignore’ll as a wise winger often said x

@Nana

I’ve missed you

I live in a very remote part of Spain (Extremadura), we are also like France, on lockdown. Unlike the stories you may have seen or heard about from the costas, here everyone is taking this very seriously indeed. The Spanish here (there are VERY few foreigners) are keeping isolated, looking after their elderly and vulnerable. The shops are well stocked with orderly queues, and most definitely not three hours long!
They are proud of their hospitals and healthcare workers and the job they are doing. The Spanish supermarket chain, Mercadona, has given their staff a 20% pay rise for the duration of this lockdown.
The Spanish PM on Tuesday afternoon announced a relief package of €200 billion to fight the economic fallout of the coronavirus crisis, including delaying mortgage payments, easing social security contributions and allowing employees who need to care for dependent relatives to reduce their workday by as much as 100%. This could last between one to three months. He also said he’d help with electricity payments. (Although this doesn’t affect us as our house is solar powered).
Today in our nearest town they have had the Military Emergency Unit disinfecting as a preventative measure, infrastructure such as train and bus stations.
The schools, bars, cafes etc are closed and no one is complaining as they understand this has to be done for the health of everyone.

‘Would it not just be better to let this thing rip and get back to normal life?”

NO!

Nor would it have been a good idea to allow polio, smallpox, ebola, malaria, HiV or a myriad of other nasty, contagious diseases rip through the world’s population unchecked. The Spanish flu a hundred years ago cost the lives of more than 40 million people. Who would want to see such a thing happening in the world again.

All we are being asked to do is be a bit bored for a few weeks or months.

Governments, on the other hand, are going to have to step up and make sure their people still have a roof over their heads, heating, food, etc., whilst this thing hopefully runs out of hosts and dies away. Does anyone think BoZo cares enough about anyone other than himself to do that?

Nothing Nicola Sturgeon the First Minister of Scotland or every First Minister before her has the use of is free

I pay for it, and I’m more than delighted that she make use of the instruments of government that she and her predecessor have done to represent me and my country

If the FM was in the job for the money then why would she reject a UN position two years ago at what would have been a major increase in salary and one of the most prestigious positions in the world

If you had really ever been a SNP member you would have known that

When you set out to lie learn to lie better

Dr Jim

I have been an ex SNP member since 1st February 2020.

And I think I am right in thinking that Nicola Sturgeon is the highest paid politician in the UK.

Add in her man’s salary, and add into that again every material thing you could wish for will be free,,,, why the fuck would she want to give all that up?

All for being leader of a Council Chamber in Edinburgh.

Not bad work if you can get it.

@ LizG, yep we sure do know the type 🙂 I will pass on your good wishes to him indoors.

Hi Effigy, Dr Jim, Dorothy & Fireproofjim, I’ll be dropping by now and then when I’ve got anything to share.

Meanwhile
Check here each day at 2pm for updates re Cornovirus in Scotland
link to gov.scot

A C Bruce says: at 2:46 pm

“Governments, on the other hand, are going to have to step up and make sure their people still have a roof over their heads, heating, food, etc., whilst this thing hopefully runs out of hosts and dies away.

Does anyone think BoZo cares enough about anyone other than himself to do that?”

The majority of folk reading this site probably think he won’t, and that he doesn’t care, but the situation is that the approximately 10 times larger electorate of our southern partner in this supposed equal Union continue to vote his party into power.

So, until something fundamental changes and full powers return to Scotland, all our current wee Scottish “Government” can do is attempt to mitigate the negative aspects of the big UK Government’s policies, with the limited powers and fiscal controls we have.
There is an argument we might consider stopping calling Holyrood our Scottish Government because it is misleading to less well informed folk that have no idea what powers are actually devolved to it, and what are reserved to Westminster.

They say that voters get what they vote for, but because of the complete electoral clusterfuck and unequal power structures that make up the UK, voters in Scotland have no such luxury to influence the big important stuff and determine our own future.

So us Scots can just suck it up when we lose things like our EU Citizenship with all the freedoms and positives that gave us, and also just suck up whatever ill thought out pish Westminster rolls out in relation to the Corona lurgy.

Fun seeing Joe transgender into Jackie!

“As an aside, something that I find curious about the Alex Salmond case is that he allegedly tried it on with all these different women and yet he would have had ample opportunity to try it on with Mrs. Murrell and didn’t.”

Mist001.

Craig Murrays recent post on the trial, points to no real evidence against him, even the Crown prosecutor is coming from an emotional angle, with regards to questiining rather that a evidence based one.

This what I posted.

Its the political side of this that I find intriguing, those women are all close allies of Nicola Sturgeon, and by default Peter Murrell her husband, both control the SNP with a vice like grip.
This in itself completely negates the young naive learning her trade persona first used by Sturgeon as Salmonds sidekick, to a ruthless cold political beast who knows how to implement the darker Machivellian side of politics.

I accept that political skullduggery upon opponents is a unpleasant side of the political game, and because of human nature it probably always will be applied.
However when this skullduggery is disguised as a promise of independence via a referendum, which in light of this and of Sturgeon’s actions and deeds over the past four years, which have basically been non extistant with regards to independence, serious thought need to be given as to whether or not Sturgeon actually wants independence.

Given the above and the past four years of inaction by Sturgeon on holding a indyref when the UK government was in utter turmoil over Brexit. It is reasonable to think that Sturgeon has misled us all on the independence front.

link to craigmurray.org.uk

Scot finlayson 1.04pm. Also food for thought. Look at dr vernon Coleman on utube.

Pete 2.03pm. See my 4.08pm post.

Utube. Dr vernon coleman.’ Coronavirus scare- the hoax of the century

Mike d
Thanks
Just watched it.
Not sure about the reasons he expounds but his statistics make a lot of sense.
I really don’t see that the numbers are building up to anything much but I’ll be carefully watching over the next few weeks.
One of today’s deaths was a chap with motor neurone disease. Maybe he would have died with ordinary flu?
Please all, watch the video.

RepublicofScotland
Golly, I actually agree with you!

Effijy

Where are you getting the information about army convoys?

SNP confirm in writing to Gove they have abandoned any plans to push for indyref2 this year

link to twitter.com

Mike Russell announces that because of coronavirus, the SG’s indyref2 plans have been shelved for 2020. How convenient.

Dr. Vernon Coleman is saying that doctors in Italy are probably putting coronavirus as cause of death on the death certificates of the elderly, when in many cases it will be influenza. That would explain why the mortality rate for coronavirus in Italy is so far in excess of other European countries.

Republic of Scotland.

Re the Spanish flu of 1918 and its origin there is a line of medical thinking that believes the outbreak started in the USA.

Of course being on the winning side of the war the allied powers could not allow the impression to be created that the devastating influenza outbreak arose in the good old USA – ergo it became the Spanish flu.

Quite why all of these devastating disease outbreaks occur, or are described to occur in any other country than the USA or the UK is quite clear to see. Bad Chinese, just like the bad Spanish but let us remember, the USA does not have a national health service.

Something like 11,000,000 residents are undocumented migrants who dare not go near a doctor for fear of being reported and deported. Another 27,000,000 USA citizens are without any healthcare whatsoever whilst maybe another 100,000,000 or more struggle to pay and or are underinsured. Against that background, the USA looks like a country where an epidemic could absolutely let rip – as it did in 1918 with a huge American death toll.

Anyway, only a few weeks ago President Trump decried COVID 19 as a hoax. Some hoax ad th3 country now looks set to go into epidemic overdrive.

Ah well, a plague on their right wing nor liberal free booting economy. This virus will be no respecter of wealth and status. Septuagenarian Trump and his equally aged presidential backers will be every bit as exposed as everyone else with his age profile.

Have a nice day Donald. You deserve it.

Boris Johnson got the position of PM which he had longed for – but he doesn’t look too happy now. He certainly does not give the appearance of enjoying the situation. Remember the old saying, “Be careful what you wish for”?

This pandemic has all the makings of a seismic event – the world turned upside down. Trying to maintain the old political certainties will prove to be difficult.

Those oldsters who continually hark back to the Second World War as a time of solidarity and unity might find that the government then had to use rationing as the fairest way of managing food stocks in the face of the Nazi embargo. It was also political pragmatism. Social order would have broken down completely had the government followed the laissez-faire of pre-war times. That was a form of socialism after all which was imposed for the sake of fairness and the maintenance of unity.

Having to confront an invisible enemy in the form of a new virus is proving to be much the same as total war against an aggressive enemy. We might find that we are in the preliminary stages of a phoney war.

If the government is going to avail itself of huge new powers in the interests of security without adequate care for the provision of food and shelter for all its citizens it is in effect going on a war footing. Johnson should look to his avowed hero, Churchill and realise that you have to earn the approval of the governed in that situation or you lose all social cohesion.

Slogans like “We are all in it together” can only succeed if people’s actual lived experience experience is of the majority’s welfare being the first priority. Johnson had to be reminded that in making concessions for mortgage holders he had not made provision for those who rent. He looked pained when that was brought up. He was revealing his Tory instincts, to look after those he regards as his voters.

It remains to be seen whether Johnson and his cohorts can learn pragmatism. Their big majority is not going to stand them in good stead with this new unexpected global event. Evolution has returned with a vengeance and I don’t think ordinary people are going to meekly accept social darwinism. As Richard Dawkins observed, the main ambition of medical science was to free human beings from the culling effect of evolutionary forces, or “Darwinism is not for human beings.”

J Gedd
I like BOJO but you are correct in saying that he doesn’t look comfortable.
I think his instinct is to let this thing rip, as I do, but he’s being forced by the people around him and society in general who believe that every disease can be defeated,

“Re the Spanish flu of 1918 and its origin there is a line of medical thinking that believes the outbreak started in the USA.”

Willie.

I’ve read several accounts on the origins of the Spanish Flu, some say France, due to the media of the day reporting cases in Spain the name stuck, some say it even originated in China, I can’t say for sure where it popped its head up first.

link to history.com

Breeks @ 6:32pm

You said it! The SNP leadership have jumped on this as an excuse. It means they can prolong the fiction that they are still pro-independence.

Nicola,,, once the darling of the Yes Movement.

Now, a self-serving closet Unionist.

Corona Virus will last for at least six months and will fully occupy our government dealing with the lack of preparation by Westminster.

No one in their right mind could knock on doors until the virus is killed off.

.

Ouch!

Coronavirus: Hearts ask players to take 50% wage cut

link to archive.is

I couldn’t resist. John Crace on BJohnson in the Guardian.

“And on Tory faces there were growing flickers of concern. Choosing Boris Johnson as their leader suddenly wasn’t looking like such a good idea. Boris is a good-time party guy. The sort of man who can be the life and soul of the Olympics and be relied on for any upbeat bollocks about Brexit.

But Boris just can’t do the serious stuff. He is levitas incarnate. A man with an unbearable lightness of being. At a time of national crisis, the country wants a man who is willing to put in the hard yards. Who can be bothered to read briefing papers longer than two sides of A4.

What’s more, deep down, Boris knows he is floundering. That he is hopelessly out of his depth. Up till now he’s always got away with somehow coming up with the right words. The master of the glib. A catchphrase for every occasion. Now though, those same words are dying in his throat. They don’t even convince him, let alone the other members of the cabinet. Rishi Sunak and Michael Gove could barely look at him. Liz Truss was lost in a world of her own. But then she often is.

The pantomime clown with the pantomime hair has morphed into a pantomime villain. Someone even children can identify as inherently untrustworthy. And it’s taking its toll. Over the last few weeks – since he first got round to taking the pandemic seriously – he has aged years. His eyes are red and puffy, his complexion pallid and the bags deepening into furrows. At night he weeps, though mostly for himself. Of all the gin joints in all of the towns in all of the world, why did he have to walk into this one?”

Bojo’s Clowns cannot be serious about this at this time!

link to gov.uk

Laughter at ITV Propaganda news service.
Scotland bad as Ayrshire take kids to school for the last time

Then it’s an interview with a supposed Scottish NHS Nurse with hidden identity
Saying that she is put in danger by the shortage of masks, visors and anti bacterial gel.

I understand this is true right across the Tory bled NHS.
If she is a nurse she may be grateful that we in Scotland pay for nurses to train
They get free University education, a higher rate of pay, better ratio of patients to nurses
and they haven’t seen Doctors forced to strike like Tory England NHS.

Strange their isn’t a different more relevant story here for UK media?

Morrisons the anti Scottish supermarket:
Morrisons supermarket strikes again with empty shelves and miserable staff who are now all wearing plastic gloves that are no protection whatsoever in the transmission of Corona virus considering the virus lives on hard surfaces for many hours and on the plastic gloves the staff are wearing as they handle food and money at the same time plonking your change from their infected gloves

I picked up the last copy of the National and a staff member rushed over to give me row for touching it whilst at the same time the store has people walking around picking food up and putting it back down again, like fruit and veg and moving tins to and fro, but it seems that behaviour is fine but touching the wrong newspaper in not fine

Washing hands regularly is more effective than wearing the same plastic gloves all day
My fault though, SNP badge wearer, your allowed to stick fruit up to your nose and smell it and give it a squeeze if you’re not in the SNP

2016, the UK gov runs an exercise to check preparedness for an epidemic/pandemic. I don’t know which one the ran it against, Ebola, flu or whether it was just generic, but complete failure. The exercise highlighted the complete inadequacy of operational procedures and guess what, no where near enough ventilators. I’m sure it probably highlighted the lack of beds and emergency service capability but the point is they were absolutely aware that they were unprepared to cope with a pandemic. Not only have they failed to increase the number of ventilators, they haven’t even upgraded or am ended the procedures. I would call that criminal negligence.

“Great” British spirit seeing our own step up to the plate asking wider society to cough up their hard earned to charities in these dire times.

“William appeals for donations for small charities tackling coronavirus.

The Duke of Cambridge has launched an appeal for the National Emergencies Trust, to raise money on behalf of local charities working with those most at risk during the coronavirus crisis.”

Soz mate, nae money spare as too fuckin busy doing unpaid voluntary work around my locale to make life bearable for the ones struggling to get by in this wonderful Kingdom of yours.
Be a good lad and bung a few quid in for me will ya?

I’m brainstorming with myself (not very successfully at the moment) for a good, recognisable brand name for a party to stand as an alternative to the SNP, since they’ve lost all credibility to deliver independence, at least in my book.

So, I’m thinking ISP.

For the computer literate, we know this as Internet Service Provider.

But…

Independent Scotland Party.

It’s algorithmic. Unambiguous, precise, and finite.

Like I said the other night, the ruling party in France is called ‘En Marche’. They went from start up to French presidency in just THREE years.

If they can do it, I’m bloody well sure a Scottish party could do the same, if it put its mind to it.

“This website long gave up on anything political with regards to Independence, it’s all about the hate now, invented and spewed out to do the opposite from Independence, if the sky turned purple it would be Nicola Sturgeons fault”

What a bunch of bullshit, this site didn’t give up on independence Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP gave up, and now folk are recognising that so the criticisms are aimed at her and her party and rightly so.

If you’re looking for someone to blame start here.

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The english empire establishment has been bullshitting the world for over a century.

In WW1 they were using ships that were out of date, there soldiers under equipped, it was all a show of bravado by the englanders.

Then in WW2 the same shit,,, out of date equipment and badly trained soldiers.

If it wasn’t for the english channel, the Germans would have walked into england.

Then the Gulf wars under the desert sun, again, shit equipment, not fit for purpose uniforms and boots, in the end families were sending their loved ones proper boots and other equipment to try to help their sons daughters survive the war.

And now we are in another war against this virus and surprise surprise, our front line troops fighting this war are under equipped and badly prepared for it.

What the fuck is so Great about Britain?

The only nation left that has any faith left in the english empire are those stupid bastards to the South of the Scottish border.

Yes, the little englanders. And if you are looking for proof that thus is the case then look no further than the Btecit vote.

They still believe england will rule the world again.

@ Ayeright

And you have better ideas? In fact, do you have any ideas at all?

Let’s hear them.

@Republicofscotland

“Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP gave up, and now folk are recognising that so the criticisms are aimed at her and her party and rightly so.”

“her and her party” are what have got us to where we are and that’s above 50% support for Independence in the polls.

What have YOU done other than moan like all the other moaners on here. Dr Jim is right because it’s a fact that most posters here now are jeopardising support for Independence by continuously undermining Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP.

The very thing that this website fought against since 2012 with it’s fight against the MSM with it’s continual SNP BAD. No need to bother now as people like you are doing their job for them.

Nana

Good to see you back again. Many happy memories!

What do you make of “Wings” nowadays? And what do you reckon has happened to the Rev?

Dr Jim, absolutely correct about what’s happened to the site.

Dr Jim 7.42pm. You should have told that staff member to ‘go forth and multiply ‘.

The plan is to vote,,,

SNP first

Indy Party second

What is so wrong with that?

But serious changes are needed at the top of the SNP

Sassenach, you are Cubby in disguise

You fuck up every website you get involved with

You and the rest of your gang
Heedtracker
Yesindyref2
Hamish 100
geeo
Petra
Cubby
And the rest.

All paranoid nutters

Its after you lot appeared on the scene that Wings started going downhill.

You chased all the 2014;gang away.

With your constant paranoid comments

And here you are again,, still at it.

“her and her party” are what have got us to where we are and that’s above 50% support for Independence in the polls.”

Ayeright.

That’s a crock of shit as well, it wasn’t Sturgeon that saw the rise in the polls, far from it she did nothing in four years to lead us to an indyref.

I can’t even recall her going on a AUOB march, see went to a demo in George Sq in Glasgow to stop Brexit, but that was it.

No it was the Tories and Brexit that helped see the polls rise into the 50+ percent.

Since 2016 Sturgeon has wailed, moaned and groaned over Brexit, even touring Scotland in her yellow stop Brexit bus, when she shouldve been planning our exit strategy instead.

On independence she’s been found sorely wanting.

@

There are many more posters on Wings exactly like you, much more happy to criticise Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP than they are the real enemy Boris Johnson and the Tories.

He is the enemy of an Independent Scotland and be assured it is not Nicola Sturgeon.

The tories are the ones responsible since 2010 for the austerity that devastated our public services with their cuts. I know who the real enemy to the people of Scotland is and it’s not Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP.

Unlike Johnson, Sturgeon is not a clown and she will lead us to winning Independence.

Oh dear the sycophants of the SNP ‘leader’ are out in force a leader who gives her personal backing to a liar as adjudged by a judge, who has claimed that the last election success of the SNP was support for Independence a complete lie as the election leaflet for the SNP does not have that word in it at all.

Dr Jim’s assertion that Morrisons are capitalising on Coronavirus unsubstatiated anywhere else. You guys really must take us as idiots. And ayeright is wrong again how many of the 50.4% of Scotlands population are going to vote SNP so that their hard won rights to safe places is thrown into the gutter.

@Republicofscotland

Halfwit.

@ RoS 8.21pm Hear , Hear , why is it that when bozo REFUSES a sect 30 order , and Teresa says NOW IS NOT THE TIME and Nicola says OK and just walks away , then Nicola TELLS the Scottish people that we can’t hold a referendum unless we get a sect 30 order and introduces language such as illegal or wildcat refs for yoonionists to use against us

So Dr Jim Why is that the fault of people who have supported NS and the SNP who have lied and mismanaged opportunity after opportunity , why is highlighting the lies and broken promises , the failure to capitalise on wastemonsters weaknesses ,the stupidity of alienating at least 50% of your voter base why is that the haters fault , and is it also the haters fault that Mike Russell has contacted the sleazeball Gove to tell him not to worry master we won’t be having a dreaded indy ref anytime soon , also he has told the EC to cancel testing the indy question , they can do it when a ref is next raised and that will waste even more time

Travelling to Oban this morning listening to the radio and after getting fed up with ‘Your Call and Kaye’ dialed into Radio 5 on the virus debate.

Two lengthy interviews with doctors about lack on protective equipment ‘darn Sarf’ basically calling for urgent action and more testing.

“Fighting an invisible enemy…fighting a fire with a blindfold on and our hands tied behind our back” I quote their words.

Later on on the main evening ITV News (after the Scottish News) they run a 5 minute video story about ‘Scotland’s NHS Ambulance staff operating without protective gear.

No mention of what should have been an English NHS story about these two doctors I mentioned above. Make of that what you will!

PS: Partners parents in Oban Lib/Dem and Unionist love Queenie…I have mentioned them in dispatches before.
Scotland too wee, too poor and too stupid no too sick!

Said I would not be back to see them again but… they are too old now to cope now… what can you do?

They think the £330bn being spent is shared throught the Uk on an equitable basis as per the Daily Mail I got him from Tesco’s in Oban.

Shocked when I told him £1.9bn to Scotland.. 🙁

Just got back to the hotel about half an hour ago that we have booked for two nights.

Pissed off and more so now I have checked the stock market!! 🙁

PS:
Hi Nana! 🙂

Not just Morrison’s capitalising on this crisis. I’m sure everyone else has noticed the big rise on food costs by the big 4 supermarkets exploiting the situation. They could have clamped down on this ‘panic buying ‘ sh**e a week ago. But hey let’s not stop a virus getting in the way of a good months profit.

Mrs. Murrell is NOT the one to take us to independence, that’s for sure. As far as I’m concerned, she’s a charlatan, a con-woman who is hoodwinking the people of Scotland. This Coronavirus has been very fortuitous for her, she’s escaped the SNP conference (meeting) and she’s been able to renege on her intention to hold Indyref2 in 2020 (which BTW, the Rev pointed out months ago, wouldn’t actually happen this year anyway).

She knows that she has to talk up independence to keep the membership onside and more importantly, the money coming in because without funds, they’re finished.

She’s at the level of regional administrator, nothing more and as I’ve said this past couple of weeks, she’s definitely not a leader.

Having said that, this Coronavirus has proven that none of the people that we call ‘leaders’ in the UK are actually leaders. Every single one of them has been found to be out of their depth and exposed as the lucky amateurs that they are. With this virus, Boris Johnson is being given opportunity day after day, after day to show that he’s a leader and he hasn’t risen to the challenge.

I said here over the past week that health was a matter devolved to Scotland. Mrs. Murrell also has had the chance day after day after day to stand up and take sole control of Scotlands situation but like her paymasters in London, has failed to do so. None of them are leaders.

I have a good friend of over 20 years standing, so I’m reluctant to name names and involve her in the stuff that goes on here but earlier tonight, she has PROOF that Mrs. Murrell KNEW five days ago that the schools would be closing in Scotland. Contingency plans were already made and in place prior to the announcement.

Now, why do you think Mrs. Murrell didn’t take action then? Why didn’t she tell the Scottish people as soon as she knew, that the schools would be closing?

It’s because she’s dancing to Westminsters tune and is only making announcements to Scotland when she’s permitted to do so.

She invites attacks on her herself and the way I see it, by me having a go at her at every opportunity that I get, I might play a small part in assisting her removal and then we can get a decent leader, or group of leaders to take over the independence mantel and get things moving in the right direction.

in other words, I’m helping the independence movement, not as ‘ayeright’ claims “Continually attacking the leader of the SNP is also an attack on the idea of Independence.”

By accepting things as they are is doing more damage to the independence movement than anything else.

Ayeright says:
18 March, 2020 at 10:01 pm
@Republicofscotland

“Halfwit.”

Justcwhat I expected from you.

Cheer the fk up folks

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@Dan
Many here seem to think the “sovereign people of Scotland” are all Yes voters and that the result in 2014 doesn’t count.

They don’t believe it’s 50/50.

You ignore my posts and I’ll happily ignore yours, it was you that first addressed me. Ciao.

Dissolve the Union when support is 50/50.

That’s what I’m talking about, totally deluded many of you posting here are.

In her time (which will hopefully end soon) as SNP leader, Nicola Sturgeon has done sweet f all to assist the move to independence. Anybody disagree? Then name what she has done. List all the work she has done to ensure independence happens in Scotland.

She needs to go.

eright says:
18 March, 2020 at 10:38 pm
@Dan
Many here seem to think the “sovereign people of Scotland” are all Yes voters and that the result in 2014 doesn’t count.

They don’t believe it’s 50/50.

You’re not understanding Sovereignty.

Sovereignty does not require a majority, because 100% of the people are sovereign. It makes no difference if they are split 50/50% on Independence or 95/5% for or against it, they remain 100% sovereign.

Democracy is not a prerequisite of being sovereign.

Being sovereign is binary and absolute, and a legal status. It is not subject to the ephemeral whim of a democratic mandate.

I’ll give you this, you guys do try hard.

@Breeks

Typical, more total fantasy and delusion. Why don’t YOU do it then?

“Nobody’s deluded.” Hahahahahahaha Oh YES they are 🙂

“Darwinism is not for human beings,” a remark made by Richard Dawkins was said as a rebuttal of the kind of beliefs which people like Pete hold.

“Let it rip,” declares Pete meaning, have no consideration for the lives lost and the misery caused to those who lose loved ones. This is illogical as well as unethical if you consider that the logic of Pete’s remark is that he should resist any medical attention himself.

The young Pete was a beneficiary of the welfare state set up to make sure that everyone should have access to good health care from even before birth. Health care for mother and baby, vaccination and medical care throughout the rest of life ensured that little Pete grew up to adulthood and even to collect his pension.

i used to walk occasionally as a child through the Glasgow Necroplolis and marvelled at the old tombs and mausoleums which brooded there. One mausoleum I remembered particularly as it was elaborate in the style of a small temple and obviously no expense had been spared in its construction. It was a family memorial with the names carved on either side of its dark doorway and every one was that of a child.

There were about nine names inscribed there and I remember being horrified then, as a child myself, that each of them in that gloomy family tomb, had died before their teens. As I later learned, they were probably victims of the many waves of scarlet fever, diphtheria, typhoid etc., which regularly ravaged the city, irrespective of social class, mainly carrying off the young.

Natural selection, driving evolution, was at work there and preserved in stone were recorded those who had not survived to procreate and pass on their genes. The only difference between the classes then was that the well-endowed could erect elaborate tombs to record their loss.

In the Necropolis, natural selection thus could be seen at work. Often described as an elegant system it still seems, to human beings, one of its creations, a cruel and wasteful system. Darwin, himself, who lost a beloved daughter and recognised that all the wonderful forms around him in nature were the results of the natural selection which had carried off that child, knew also that much that was wonderful was also lost.

The kind of harsh social Darwinism which Pete boasts of and ascribes to Johnson also seems not to recognise that the human species has also acquired altruism as a result of that human evolution and while, through its advanced brain, knows that it must die, has striven to save other human beings from the harsh exigencies of natural selection. It was against that kind of harsh, negative attitude to others which hides behind the claim that evolution is all about the survival of the fittest, which justifies lack of empathy, lack of compassion – that Dawkins made his remark that Darwinism is not for human beings.