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Posted on
January 02, 1968 by
Rev. Stuart Campbell
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OOH, Paula Rose!
I thought you were a ‘stroker’, rather than a ‘poker’.
You started wearing apparatus?
Oo-er missus! I think I will retreat from this game…
Prog Rock?
Nah, this is prog rock!
link to youtube.com
Lets have some prog rock…
link to youtube.com
enjoy
Ok, guys and gals, the comments certainly picked up with all the interest in oxi, oxi, oxi! Kudos to Greece, taking the dog by the tail and telling them it ain’t good enough!
Liked the prog rock links. A wee bit o’ anarchy can be a tonic!
@ Bdtt I shared an FB post about the Treaty of Union last night and come on here today to find you are on to it already. Is your Dundee residence really the home of the National Archives?
@ Paula R. 12:56am
Thanks for you particular “prog rock” preference
You know how to stroke souls like mine.
Attended such a service in North Uist when we live in the Hebrides; no organ music thank goodness, just pure voices and a rather Hellfire type of meenister! Bare wood church floor and probably a good thing it was a summer night because I doubt there was any heating. One of the few memorable church services I have attended.
The scenes in that video made me nostalgic and fairly “homesick”… despite the fact I’m not a born islander. Must visit the islands again soon. Thank you (again!) :-))
Two guys Jamming in Greece. Think they might make it big some day. link to youtube.com
Liar Liar!
link to youtube.com
Hi Betty Boop.
I picked up the ‘parliament.uk’ link from Facebook last night.
When I read the page, it reminded me of the ‘tarffadvertiser’ page, hence my posting of that link.
Very interesting read….
I’m sure the guy who writes that blog is a Winger.
@ Thepnr
Hi Alex, definitely worth trying to keep up with Brian’s links even if you need matchsticks to keep the ol’ eyes open. Ta Brian, our very on version of Wikipedia; would that be Tecklepedia, iye?
Loved the Liar Liar link although they missed out yon ither pairty.
I prefer this ‘Liar’…
link to youtube.com
@ Bdtt
You got the big guns out with Freddie! Unsurpassable.
A ‘heads up’…
‘Off-topic’ regulars really have to check out the pi$h that Rock has come away with tonight, typing about this web site:-
“Unfortunately a group of sycophants and pedants, and quite possibly unionist agents, have been attempting to take it over.”
That’s me, Paula Rose – and RONNIE ANDERSON!
link to wingsoverscotland.com
I feel we need more input on that page…
One of my favourites, this one has a few liars featured too, but, right now I like it particularly because it chimes with the “Nae Fear Greeks”, except the very end bit
link to youtube.com
@ Thepnr 9:13pm I would be kidding you on if I said I did not like that. Cheers good link.
Jiss catchin’ up on other pages.
Re my ‘Rock’ mention of a wee while ago…
You want to check out the posts since this time last night on this page:-
link to wingsoverscotland.com
Methinks someone’s trying to frack this web site.
Peace of Iona link to youtube.com
@ Bdtt
Felt compelled to follow your last link to the main pages. There are times when the comments section of this site become more than a bit intemperate and displays all the charm of p***ing contest.
I’m sorry to say I felt further compelled to make comment, but, probably more would be gained by just a few deep breaths.
Way back in 2007 on the TAMB (Tartan Army Board) before the recession and before the ‘Bank Crisis’, a chap posted a question regarding the purchase of RBS shares.
He had noticed that they had been dropping in value for some weeks and wondered if they had bottomed out yet and was it time to buy?
Several respondents were quite quite in favour of that plan, so I felt compelled to stick my oar in with advice not to and the following post explaining why that would be a bad idea. That this was not a normal economic cycle, that it would last for years and how it was a consequence of the rise of neoliberal, monetarist/globalist policies long consigned to the economic madhouse but unleashed on the World in the 80s.
Of course, bearing in mind this was ostensibly a football fan forum, I attempted to couch the message in non jargonised form.
I also posted a version of it on the UK Politics Forum which was immediately attacked by economic ‘experts’ who flatly stated that there would be no recession, no financial crisis.
Reposting it there a year or so later, was, I confess, pure schadenfreude.
It is a long post and may exceed the size limits here so may need to be split.
This is not a ‘normal’ boom and bust cycle.
This is not going away any time soon.
This a consequence of unfettered capitalism and the lunatic ‘policy’ of globalisation bought into by Reagan and Thatcher (both sufferers of degenerate brain disease) and carried on by Bush, Blair and Brown. But these ‘leaders’ were just mere puppets. The multinational corporation mentality is the real villain of the piece.
Those ‘captains of industry’, most of whom are unable to chart a course beyond next month’s balance sheet, sought only two things:
1) To run after the lowest available wage bill using workers with no rights in China.
2) To create a Global market place whereby they could maximise profit.
In order to pursue these policies, Western leaders of gullibility or criminality or just plain bonkers were connived into place and the required trade deals and other changes made.
Whether they were incapable of understanding the consequences of blindly pursuing those policies on the stability of the World economy, on the stability of World peace or on the environment or whether they simply did not care doesn’t really matter, the chickens are coming home to roost.
Huge sectors of manufacturing have headed East to the slave prisons and low wage resource of China. Lovely balance sheet. Only problem is the loss of manufacturing jobs in the West.
But never mind eh? We can all service each others jacksies and those nice Easterners will pay us handsomely for our ‘services’ too, right?
What a load of bollox. Does anyone really believe that once China had most of the manufacturing industry that they were going to hand money back to the West for ‘services’ they could easily provide for themselves in order that we can buy goods from them?
And look at the effect this has had on the environment. China is very nearly 100% coal burning for its electricity production. So goods once made in Europe where a high percentage is nuclear, hydro, wind etc. are now being made using coal. Not only that, but because of the cheaper prices for goods due to the artificially low labour costs, we are using far more, changing and discarding far more often. Meanwhile our idiotic and/or dishonest Western leaders crow about GGE reductions in their country which are largely due to reduced manufacturing when the relocation of that manufacturing is actually resulting in a massive increase in Global pollution.
And the new, as yet in its infancy, affluence all that manufacturing is creating in China has already, even at their still low GDP pc, put pressure on food and oil prices World wide too.
Now I am certainly not against China being capitalised and their standard of living raised to Western levels but China is quite a different kettle of fish from the other Pac Rim capitalisations of the past. Quite aside from human rights issues, the difference in scale is huge and way beyond anything the World economy can ‘ride out’ as per it did for Japan, Korea, Taiwan etc. this needs to be done in a controlled manner which does not create destructive instabilities.
For a start, to create the basics of a level playing field, workers there should have normal workers’ rights. The environment should be protected by insisting on clean coal burning technology.
From the capitalists’ point of view the extra costs involved in those measures would make China less attractive and that would have slowed things naturally and in a constructive way.
However, the Chinese government was certainly never going to put these measures in place voluntarily.
Foreign investors would have had to insist on them but that would have required what amounts to a UN backed investment policy which would never have flown.
Anyway, capital has probably already accrued in China beyond the critical mass required to self-fund its own expansion, which, although perhaps at a lower rate, is still way fast enough to continue to destabilise the World economy and environment.
And China has learned from the orchestrated East Asian Banking crisis of the 90s and made sure the yuan is seeded away in dollar, pound and euro areas, there is no option of selectively destabilising and slowing things in the that way again, a ploy which was used to throttle back on Japan’s expansion when it threatened American economic hegemony in the 90s.
The introduction of capitalism to the Pac Rim countries was not without its problems for World economic stability in the past but those bumps, although large, were rideable until their wage rates approached Western levels which restored balance, halted the drain on manufacturing and even reversed it in some areas.
However, the same thing cannot be done with China it is simply far too big. Development there has to be controlled. The World economy would simply not survive a 20 year timescale expansion of China from zero to Western levels as seen in other Pac Rim countries. China is like ten Japans rolled into one. Also Japan was largely nuclear so there was not the environmental consequences historically either.
Demand on food and fuel will continue to increase, the West will stay in recession and unemployment will continue to grow until,… someone points out “Wait a minute just a couple of decades back Europe and America grew all it needed to eat and produced all the goods it needed as well. Why can’t we go back to that?” And so trade tarrifs and a degree of isolationism will inevitably need to return which will enable the West to get back to similar standards of living they enjoyed previously (provided we stay cosy with Russia for oil and gas). But the interim will be grim, and sadly NOT just for the Gadarine swine parasites of the City or Wall Street.
And we are talking at least 5 years before that can be fully implemented. So that is how long I expect things to keep going down.
Oh there will be normal boom and bust cycles driven by domestic policies in countries superimposed over the downward trend, sometimes even hinting that things are on the way back up, but always the underlying trend will be down until a Western manufacturing base is restored.
One lesson that should be learned is that a roughly equitable geographical spread of manufacturing base is a requirement for World stability and needs to be maintained by sensible trade agreements.
Although this may entail local subsidy to counter exchange rate differences, to ensure efficiencies are still market driven, there should be no local monopolies allowed and fixed and equal support for all local competitors.
Strategic controls need to be overlayed over the investment process. (e.g. min. hold time limits etc.)
The other lesson that should be learned once and for all is the difference between wealth creation and wealth acquisition.
How often do we hear in Scotland how much wealth is ‘generated’ by London and the SE? In point of fact they are very very poor at generating wealth on a pro rata basis.
Wealth is simply the things we use in life. Food, fuel, clothes, cars, shoes, TVs, fridges, microwaves, computers etc.etc.etc. The generation of wealth entails, mining, drilling, growing, manufacturing, fishing, hunting etc. etc. etc.
The invention of money made exchange of wealth easier, however it also brought an inherent problem. Through various mechanisms e.g. speculation, ‘service’ charges, exchange rates etc. it is possible to accrue money without actually generating wealth.
The general effect of this on ethical values can be bad enough, but when those who indulge in some of even the more primarily wealth accruing practices equate them to wealth generation the delusion has become pathogenic.
Wealth acquisition is not wealth generation, doesn’t matter how clever or devious the particular little scam someone may have thought up to accrue wealth is, it just isn’t.
And whereas a parasitic micro-economy may be tolerated in a host nation (with the complicity of the Government, say), when such self-delusion leads to notions that the entire Western economy can be likewise based, with the East generating nearly all the wealth, the plot has been well and truly lost. When parasites grow to a similar size as their host, there is a problem.
It will take 5 years before things turn around but the lessons, if learned, will be beneficial in the longer term.
You can call me Cassandra if you like.
In hindsight my 5 years was a bit optimistic, but it did rely on Western leaders responding sanely. However, for the most part the penny seems to have dropped. Even the Tories are supportive of moving from financial services to manufacturing if only in a very quiet way lest the Thatcher god myth suffers.
My thinking that the bankers would suffer was naive.
But I did say even then that the European people would not accept resetting to Victorian standards of living.
Here is post from 4 years ago, not in Tambese, where some of that is reiterated but with more emphasis on the predicted European unrest, since the measures which Western leaders could have taken to avoid that have not been.
Taking a laissez-faire approach in a market a la Adam Smith’s ‘invisible hand of God’ does generally lead to a more rapid rate of real progress (i.e. real increase in pro rata wealth creation) than other systems, provided there are safeguards against monopolies and cartels of course.
However, that presupposes that ‘a market’ is a self-evident thing. Is ‘a market’ only about supply and demand, or is it required to work with inbuilt social criteria as well?
In the socially developed World we have things like the right to strike, collective bargaining, welfare infrastructure, health care, health and safety, building regulations, environmental regulations and a lots more. Those things are what most would consider the trappings of a society which would call itself socially civilised. Most people, certainly in the West, would consider that these things, which do indeed cost a lot of money, are required target outputs for ‘a market’ to achieve.
A basic social development level is part of the Western market.
These things are not natural developments of the market however. They have had to be won by countless struggles over 200 years or thereabouts.
It was understood that Western economies exist and compete in a market which accepted these overheads and where the provision in each country was broadly the same.
However, with the acceptance into the market of China etc. where a lot of those things we would consider basic social expectations and provisions are not provided or paid for, then we have a situation where it can be quite viably claimed that we no longer have ‘a market’ where everyone is playing by the same rules, but we have instead two markets competing with completely different rules.
In that scenario, Smith et al, falls down.
I’m all in favour of bringing China into a ‘Global’ market, but it should have been done in a way which maximised the social progress for the Chinese people and which preserved sufficient genuine wealth creation capability in the West to maintain the socially civilised standards that it had attained there.
To do this, trade with China should have been subjected to a tariff system where tariffs were reduced as pro rata percentage GDP spend on social infrastructure and citizens rights and freedoms targets were met.
Instead not only did we allow China full access to the WTO (Clegg lead the EU team which accepted China) but the GAT tarrif levels were ludicrously, massively in favour of Chinese exports.
It is as if, Global strategist capitalists want to use China to ‘reset’ workers rights in the West to circa 1850.
If that is the case, then they are in for a rude shock, because the people of Europe know that, even in isolation, they could easily go back to a situation where they grow and manufacture all they need to maintain the living standards they are used to AND to maintain social provisions as well. So if that is the plan it will not wash and there will be a new wave of revolutions.
@Chic McGregor
Gobsmacked!
Here’s me too thinking all along that you were a physicist only to find out that your grasp of economics is better than those that have won the Noble Prize for economics.
Noble prize for economics a misnomer I know.
Chic I can’t say I understood all your arguments but I certainly agreed with them.
Having worked all my life in Industry and watching its destruction I could plainly see with my own eyes how damaging it was to society and in Scotland in particular.
One thing I do know is that the Scots may be wee, they may be poor but they are certainly not stupid!
Or mibbees yer jist a Scots fermer that reads a lot?
Good stuff here, in the wee oasis…
Ian Dury & The Stranglers, ‘Peaches’ (live) –
link to youtube.com
In an Independent Scotland there will be none of that looking at “peaches” whilst strolling on beaches – instead you will all join Thepnr in joyfully reading all about economics!
Good essay, Chic McGregor!
And for Ian B…
Was this song put together as an analogy of Westminster?
link to youtube.com
@BDTT –
Interesting cross-class/cultural stuff going on there what with it being in the Royal Albert All.
Someone said the string section was all gorgeous lassies wearing camouflage gear. Bummer! I couldn’t see any of ’em.
Behave yourselves, men.
Hi Ian B.
I’ve always had a penchant for prog rock and when I first heard “Down In The Sewer”, I was dumfoonirt, coz The Stranglers came in on the punk tide. “DITS” is classic prog rock, IMHO.
Mind you, The Stranglers had been pro musicians for a fair old time before The Stranglers evolved.
There was a Dundee band called “The Visitors”, whose keyboard style was very similar to The Stranglers, and they were on the go at the same time.
If I can find time, I’ll upload the B Side of The Visitors only single to my webspace, so you can have a listen.
Won’t be tonight though…
Paula Rose – I’ve already told you umpteen times, I am not having your babies!
What would the meenister say?
@ Chic McGregor
Some of us realised much of what you describe would happen way back when Thatcher was doing her worst to our manufacturing industry. Most of us, however, could not have produced such an eloquent and descriptive analysis.
When it comes to our Western leaders, it would be bad enough to consider them inept, but, really, I think they just didn’t/don’t care about the consequences of their actions upon people.
Doesn’t matter if you don’t like so-called ‘punk’ music, or ‘anarchists’ – this dude is wise:
Penny Rimbaud, in interview (2007):
link to youtube.com
@Thepnr
I have taken a holistic interest in economics since I was an undergraduate. Still have my copy of Mill’s ‘Principles of Political Economy’ on my bookshelf from student days. A tough read by the way, as indeed are most of the tracts on economic theory. In that respect, it is a subject equal to that of Law and Medicine in creating a linguistic fence.
However, my approach to economics is from a scientific perspective.
It is known as the Queen of Sciences, but IMO it is just about at the same stage of development as science was circa 1600 with astrology, alchemy and pseudo-science along with their shamans, shysters and charlatans still being given more or less equal credence with the emergent astronomers, chemists and physicists of the nascent rational age.
It should be a genuine science and treated as such. The problem is, up till now, it has not attracted the serious interest of the scientific community. First because, well frankly, it is not interesting enough and secondly because of the extreme opposition they would have to endure, given the vested interests involved.
If a team of genuinely scientifically minded people were to address the problem, I think it would fairly quickly be put on a far sounder, more rational basis, than it is at present.
The first thing they would address, is the fundamentals, as they did in science. Without those, no rational progress is possible.
To take one as an example.
What is an economy for?
Being somewhat subjective, that is not an easy question to answer.
For some people, it is entirely about competitiveness. It’s a game to be won. Winner takes all. This is a manifestation of that kind of thinking which has at base, the justification that there is still some meaningful level of ‘survival of the fittest’ evolutionary process going on for humanity. I would suggest two major flies in that particular ointment. First, human population has long since passed the numerical point where any such evolution could actually (statistically) take place and secondly the human characteristics which are most useful in succeeding in that scenario, dishonesty, lacking in empathy and ruthlessness, by most reasonable interpretations would be considered recidivist rather than progressive in human evolutionary terms anyway.
Then there are those who might take the polar opposite view, that no one should be economically disadvantaged by their lack of ability, since they did not choose to be born in that position. Therefore the economy should provide for everyone equally, regardless. The main fly in the ointment of that approach is that ‘regardless’ can pertain to lack of effort as well as lack of ability. Humanity has evolved a capacity for laziness. A capacity which we should realise has perfectly reasonable evolutionary credentials based on the often precarious balance between energy expelled versus energy intake (i.e. food). Therefore, there is more than a danger that such a system would lead to mollycoddling, encouragement of indolence and lack of incentives to the detriment of most of the recipient population in terms of their own personal development as well as to the sum production of wealth available for distribution.
However I hope and believe, that were a World wide poll ever taken to test for a fundamental consensus (as it would be if scientists were charged with the task) that the vast majority of humanity would plump for something like this:
As a fundamental principle, an economy is there to enable as many people as possible to get as close as possible to fulfilling their personal potential. That requires an economy to make sufficient welfare, health, housing, infrastructural and educational provisions as required but also, sufficient reward for those who are extraordinarily innovative, creative or imbued with a strong work ethic, thereby acting as an effective incentive while keeping that reward differential within reasonable limits (e.g. by income gap capping). There should also be restrictions on the size a corporate body can get to before it is required to fracture into competing entities to guard against monopolies.
If something like that third option was demonstrated to be a World consensus, then it could be enshrined in a UN Declaration of National Economic Principles.
Against which nations could be assessed for either admiration or admonishment (via tariff settings).
However, I do realise that such enlightenment is some way off, but hopefully not the full 4 centuries worth.
Quiet please dears – i’m reading a new book called “Pavement” – just coalesce in the kitchen, give me ten minutes.
Andrew Tyrie – Chair Treasury Select Committee is a ignorant, arrogant, pompous and totally out of touch.
Stewart Hosie brilliant.
Osbourne furious
?Supercalifragilivingwagesalidocious
When you hear the Tory version
It’s really quite atrocious
?
Living wage
Existence wage
Subsistence wage
Minimum wage
Our language is being corroded by the bankers`pals and ‘I’m alright Jacks’ in Westminster.
Our welfare state is being reduced to begrudged benefits.
Our economy is being ruined by silver-spoon imbeciles.
We really, really gotta get out of this place.
link to youtube.com
@Brian Doonthetoon
Your no wrong my friend.
Ronnie, proofs sent to your hotmail account – awaiting your verdict!
Will be offline for a few days while I go and commune with nature at Strathallan Castle. Unlikely to have decent comms and I can’t be ar5ed with phone.
Here’s a little thing from my first festival to keep you busy while I’m away. It should be LOUD
link to youtube.com
Some Thursday morn entertainment for y’all..
The Streak ~ Ray Stevens
link to youtube.com
@ Gillian Ruglonian Thanks Gillian I forwared them on to the Rev for his approval, so its wait & see.
@Brian Doonthetoon
Yes, that’s the theme song inspired by this budget.
And speaking of Burdons and animals:
The unionists see Scotland as a burden the UK has to bear. The reality is we are their ‘beast of burden’, doing all the work of keeping the UK solvent with our export earnings, while being whipped like a mule.
Rolling Stones “Beast of Burden”
link to youtube.com
Sorry to put a downer on the party – but Cur Mick Jagger is not exactly Indy supporting material – can we ensure that the tunes we post meet the high standards we expect of ourselves (eek can’t remember how to do the emoticon thingie).
Nice one, David.
I posted this in the relevant thread (you-dont-get-to-do-this) just now but, with the fast turnover on the main pages, it will probably be missed. “Don’t Blame Me…” T-shirts was the subject, at the time.
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Re: T-shirts, mentioned many hours ago.
Check out this link:-
http://yes45shop.com/p/8957058/dont-blame-me-i-voted-yes—t-shirt.html
Och Paula, if Jagger’s anti-indy it only means he’s reading too many MSM papers in whatever country he happens to be in.
We should crowdfund a subscription to The National for him…
How about posting David “Stay with us, Scotland” Bowie – I’ve always loved his “Laughing Gnome”.
No Arguing with Paula Rose Because. link to youtube.com
Hi folks
we recently live streamed a “safety walk” by concerned local citizens in Maryhill about the stopping of a free bus service to kids as part of an austerity drive by Glasgow City Council who promised the local community that they would always provide this service before closing their local schools. The council are now going back on this and stopping the free bus service.
The route itself I would not want my kids to walk as it is so dangerous. Other impacts includes sucking about £200,000 out of the local community as well as putting another barrier in front of kids from a deprived area from getting an education.
Instead of a 7min bus ride the walk will take upto 55mins in our wonderful Scottish weather along one of the busiest roads in Glasgow.
Please sign the petition:
link to change.org
Wrong answer for 13 Ac today took ages to suss.
I had chapel.
Signed, Kevin.
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BTW, this is hilarious. Guy trained a wild gull to dance for food.
link to youtube.com
Massive Attack, ‘Daydreaming’ –
link to youtube.com
@Brian Doonthetoon
Poor wee seagull.
Plenty of them in Helensburgh, maybe you could train one. Wings meet up for fun and chat on 25th July at the Clyde Bar.
Hope you can make it.
Heard the end of this on Smooth yesterday, and was certain it was Gladys Knight.
Candi Staton, ‘Nights On Broadway’ –
link to youtube.com
Chic , thats pretty much sums it all up.
Thanks for taking the time to write these posts.
Large business has taken control , hence every Gvt makes bizarre decisions we struggle to understand.
I have been Self Employed ( small scale) more or less all my adult life.
I reflect , its all about big business bullying little business.
They hide behind “small print” and know we are too busy to have time to challenge them.
Ian B , I bought the Candi Staton 7″er in the 70’s Sweet Soul Music . Classic !
This is for wir ain dearest Paula Rose – don’t let Rocky Rock Rock get to ye pal.
Ray Charles, ‘You Don’t Know Me’ (live) –
link to youtube.com
Hi guys, what’s happening?!
@thistle – I like this use of the live stream to raise awareness of a specific issue, there’s a few things in my area that could use that sort of attention.
I wasn’t able to come to the CH training nights but I am still interested in picking your brain!! Are you going to be in Helensburgh on the 25th?
Hi Thepnr.
Pete and I will be at Helensburgh; we’re bringing two lady lurkers from Ninewells – Sand Holmes, who missed Glasgow because of her lad’s motorbike accident, and Pam, who’s a character.
@Ian Brotherhood
Thanks for that, been struggling to find good tunes and was looking for inspiration, settled on this.
link to youtube.com
PRose…here’s a little meditation for you
link to tastefullyoffensive.com
@Gillian_Ruglonian
I seem to remember that Thistle said he would make it along, I hope he does.
Brian Doonthetoon
Great Brian see you and Pete there and look forward to meeting your pals
@Thepnr –
Good shout there mister.
Reminds me of queuing for lunch, 1st-yr at Holyrood Sec, Glasgow – knew, by how many guys were ahead, whether or not I’d get pie/beans/chips. (Very few of the first 32 ever opted for fish.)
Good pies…
Goodbye…
Paul Simon Singing Stevie Wonder. link to youtube.com
@regulars ~
Here’s a song you may have heard on the radio, but may not have seen the music video for:
Moonlight Shadow ~ Mike Oldfield with Maggie Reilly
link to youtube.com
Hiya Cactus, if I remember correctly that song was written about John Lennons assassination?
It was good to see Tartan Tory being one of the first to post a comment on one of the pages yesterday.
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Been meaning to post this link for ages. It’s dedicated to Lumilumi – A Finnish band with Scottish scenes.
link to youtube.com
Robbie Sheppard just played this – instantly catchy.
Skipinnish, ‘The Island’ –
link to youtube.com
…and methinks it owes at least a nod and a wink to this:
The Pogues, ‘Streams of Whiskey’
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link to youtube.com
Yew Choob’s back! link to youtube.com
Looks like we’ll be hitting 440,000 comments later tonight…keep the peepers peeled to see who gets it.
And where’s Paula Rose anyway?
Synchronicity’s a ‘real’ thing by the way!
Yesterday, was sorting out the CDs my late uncle left behind (approximately 250, all Classical stuff) because I was rejigging the room and had to make a new space for them. They’re mostly series he must’ve bought along with magazines – fifty of this or that ‘collection’, and a good few boxed sets of the big well-kent names. I know not a solitary jot about classical music, but enjoy playing these and remembering him. I don’t even know that he listened to them all, or what his favourites where, but he did have a wee plastic bust of Beethoven, and the boxed sets are, for the most part, conducted by Karajan.
So, anyway, yesterday, sorting them best as I could, I was thinking about the very few pieces of classical music I do know, and the ‘theme’ tune of the movie Gallipoli popped into my heid. I was wondering who composed it, and made a mental note to check it later online. I forgot to do so.
Just twenty minutes ago, I was surfing Youtube for any decent tunes, remembered Karajan, searched for him, but all the first results are major pieces, an hour or more long. Except one.
And you don’t have to guess what it was.
So here it is. The theme from Gallipoli, or, as it should be properly called, ‘Albinoni’s Adagio in G Minor’ – you’ll know it as soon as you’ve heard the first few seconds.
(Hey, Uncle Bill – aye, okay, very good! Stop laughing, ya bass ye!!)
link to youtube.com
Trance music with a Guitar ? link to youtube.com Digging the lamp shade.
Ian @11:04, aw bless, the older we get the more we have to deal with this senario. Not a fan o clssical music, but liked the subtext of yer post. Aw the best uncle Bill.
@smithie –
Cheers aplenty – much appreciated.
It was me! It was me!
It was me! It was me!
My comment above was the 440,000th on WOS.
Woooo-hoo!
That’s me made-up now.
Sorted.
I thank you all.
Please be seated.
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LoL made up fer ya Ian,there goes my 5%, bugger.
Ninja Penguin / Yew Choob – EXCELLENT!
Now, how about “Ballroom Blitz”? Words by ‘David’ on 30th June, up above.
link to wingsoverscotland.com
8=)
@ Ian Brotherhood – have you calmed down yet,dear?
The EU and Merkel in particular still playing real hardball with Greece. Make no mistake “they” want no agreement with Syriza and their only aim is to bring down a democratically elected government, even if it causes chaos.
Mark my words.
Guys,
We have a new political journalist Terry Houston who has written an article on London Labours downfall and continuing downward spiral. If you can find the time can you go visit the website http://www.scot.scot and leave a comment if possible ? The Lost Tribe or Kier Hardie
On a different note I met with Dixie & Cactus this afternoon at the Clyde Bar for the next Wings Ding Doo. Looking forward to seeing many of you on the 25th.
Yours aye
Kendo
Hi Kendo
Regarding the 25th, I’d recommend just setting aside a portion of the lounge for those making the journey. their is no way of known how many will turn up.
Obviously the more the merrier but wouldn’t want the owner to lose out in any way by us claiming the whole lounge on what could be a otherwise busy Summer Saturday night for him. Cheers.
@Thepnr
Bleeding predictive text – it’s the bane of my life. Thanks for the heads up.
Re the Clyde, the back stage area has been kept free until about 11.30pm when the DJ starts his biz and the general public will have access. The local Yes, SNP and CommonWeal guys will hope to join you, and Dixie will be providing live music – so all’s good.
There is a curfew at 12 meaning if you leave the bar you can’t get back in – but drinking until 2.00 a.m. should be a good night !
Hey Ken you missed out the i from iscot.
link to iscot.scot
@Paula Rose –
It was me! It was me!
Yeeeeeee-ha! Wooooo-hooo!
YES!! Get right fucking in there!!!
Cheers Ken
Sounds good, looking forward to meeting others that I haven’t met before as well as some old friends from past meet ups.
Tam Jardine, TJemmy, Quine fae Angus. Jock Scot Hello!
Lots of Smiley faces. Here is a song to go with them. link to youtube.com Congratulations Ian.
Just a quickie, furnoo…
Finally got the ‘Proud Pedant’ badge design finished.
link to sites.google.com
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Kendomacaroonbar – if you’re still hingin’ aboot here…
I’ll email you in the next 24 hours.
Another quickie…
If anyone wants a personalised badge for the ‘Wings Over Helensburgh’ get-together, stick a post in Quarantine, saying what name you want on the badge.
link to wingsoverscotland.com
Paula Rosa 4.05pm
Didn’t see you at the Harley D gig yesterday.
I’m meaning to have a couple of nights at Celtic Connections in January.I’ve been advised this is the place to get guidance as to the best digs and gigs for craic.Any suggestions?
@BDTT
Brian,
I’ll be furtively lurking for a wee while. You can get me on e mail if needed ?
Mealer honey – we missed each other, you should have let me know – I could have let you know which cocktail bar I was going to xx
@ Mealer, anent the Celtic Connections, how about Babbity Bowsters or The Old Print Works.
Paula Rose 9.28,
Sorry I missed you.My wife dispatched me to The Glebe at ten to three.She probably thought it a safer environment for me….away from the attentions of any “cycle sluts” who happened to happen upon Scotlands greatest city that day.Among the several spectators at said “fitty” was a man weel kent by you and I.Why the hell he was at the Glebe instead of the gig in the stables car park,I don’t know.But it’s a bit sad,I have to say.Anyway,we’ve got the L.We’ve got the G.We’ve got the B.We’ve got the T and now we’ve got the I.Its a long,long,road to YOUR destination,but I’ll be there for a party if,heaven forfend,you ever get there!
Don’t think we’ve ever had this one. What a fantastic tune it was, and right at the height of the Thatcher years.
Culture Club, ‘Karma Chameleon’ –
link to youtube.com
It’s one thing to be able to play a guitar like this, but to do it whilst having a drag is something else. Class!
Reminds me of seeing two locals cycling up to the train station one afternoon – one was riding the bike, standing up, his pal was on the seat, holding the rider’s waist. Impressively, they were both smoking fags, no hands required.
Django Reinhardt, ‘Honeysuckle Rose’ –
link to youtube.com
Fred 9.28
Thanks for that.
I have been going back over the last few days looking for a quote someone posted from the German finance geezer Wolfgang Schaeuble saying (basically) that if they wrote of debt for Greece, they would have to do the same for Ireland
anyone help me find it?
@Cadogan Enright –
Happy to try and help, but the Google results don’t throw up anything obvious. So much out there right now…
Have you any specific phrases which might help whittle it all down a bit?
Time for an extended holiday.
You folks be good now.
@Macart
Have a good one!
What i actually popped in to say before seeing Macarts post was that this Greek “agreement” is a disaster whether agreed or not.
Maybe the headstrong will stay at home until the result of their parliaments vote is known. Then again maybe not, not a good time to be in Athens
@Ian Brotherhood 12.02
It was posted on Wings – possibly by or near a post be De Valera – with a link to Wolfgang Schaeuble talking in English
@Cadogan Enright –
Aha! Misunderstood you – so it’s in here somewhere…
Got a rough time frame? Was it in the past week?
@ Ian Brotherhood – sometime around the 440 000 comment I believe.
So they think Mhairi Black speaks like a Glasgow docker? What would they make of this? Hilarious. Fair cheered me up.
link to facebook.com
@Paula Rose –
I want it carved into my headstone (or at least, to be printed on the big sticky label they put on the plastic jar) – ‘Supplied The 440,000th Comment On WOS – Verily, He Was Never The Same Again’.
Another oddity here –
When trying to explain and/or understand the BBC, it’s important to make some effort to understand where it came from, and the main characters involved.
Not that it’s ever that ‘obvious’, but the elders amongst us may be able to make wee connections here and there using archive stuff like this:
‘Thanking Yew From Mr and Mrs C. Fletcher’ –
link to youtube.com
@Ian Brotherhood
Hahaha “The Establishment” old school though before they all became lizard people
OK I know many have been waiting on the start of some more decent music. Hope this fits the bill.
link to youtube.com
@Thepnr –
Remember him on ‘That’s Life’?
I could never stand the prick. He had that wee bit screened-off on the stage, decorated with pot-plants, and he was wearing a smoking jacket or a tuxedo. Throwback to Edwardian ‘The Good Old Days’ shite, and he was so un-funny that the audience didn’t even know when to laugh. A creepy cross between Roy Orbison and Noel Coward, with none of their talent.
And as for Esther?…
Bleeeuurgh – the further we get away from irrational trust in these people, the clearer their behaviour becomes, and the BBC, as a ‘brand’, plummets exponentially. When the BBC is finished? That’s the ‘Empire’ officially done.
Please, all known Gods, let us see that day, and let’s see it soon.
@Ian Brotherhood
Sorry my friend, I can’t even remember somebody I met yesterday. Not that I’m dowally yet, just cant be arsed. I do remember for some reason the blonde one.
Anyhoos, a follow up to my last great record lol.
link to youtube.com
@Thepnr –
Good shout there mister. Never saw that video before.
Here’s a disco tune from around the same time:
Pointer Sisters, ‘Automatic’ –
link to youtube.com
Vote SNP, get Basil Brush.
The Sweet- “Fox on the Run”
link to youtube.com
“Basil Brush and the Airbed”
link to youtube.com
Jamie Foxx- “Real in Rio”
link to youtube.com
Fox Dives Headfirst Into Snow Nature prog
link to youtube.com
Jimi Hendrix- “Foxy Lady”
link to youtube.com
Vote pro-fox, get right up the Tories’ noses!
Hello dear Wingers
Sorry to have to say that one again I won’t be able to make it along to the Helensburgh Wings Night.
This is because I will be down in Merry Old England that weekend for a classic rock fest known as “The Ramblin’ Man Fair”.
Hope my Wingy friends will forgive me when I say that the line-up was just too tempting to turn down:
The Temperance Movement, FM, Ian Anderson, Rival Sons, Saxon, Blue Oyster Cult, Greg Allman and The Scorpions!!! I’m sure you can imagine the excitement of a quiverin’ Quinie at the prospect of such a panoply of rock gods a’struttin’ and a-strummin’ against a Kentish sunset.
However, love and solidarity to all the Wingers and here’s hoping that I’ll be able to join you all again for the next one.
Are any fellow Wingers going to this Ramblin’ Man Fair? If so it would be a hoot to meet up for a drink! (I will of course be wearing my Yes and Wings badges, including my precious “Wings over Invergowrie” one, and the classic “I’ve been stroked by Paula Rose”, so I should be easily identifiable).
@ Brian Doonthetoon, I’ll second that, YewChoob’s latest song is excellent! We are lucky to have him and also Tommy Reckless, providing the satirical soundtrack to the Indy movement.
I’d be surprised/proud/happy/delighted if either of them were to use my humble little song. It would mean that “all my hard work ain’t been in vain for nothing.”
Also thumbs up to Michael McCabe for Mick Jagger’s “She’s the boss”. Now that was for Paula Rose last weekend, but I think we can repeat it today for Paisley’s Mhairi Black, to celebrate her kick-ass maiden speech!
link to youtube.com
Or maybe it should be the Pussycat Dolls with “Don’t cha wish your MP was hot like me”, cos Mhairi was hot.
In fact forget hot, she was on fire! Burning down the house.
Very proud to have her representing Paisley and Scotland.
Ian Brotherhood, you want Cyril Fletcher, you can have Cyril Fletcher, as spoofed by the ‘Not the Nine O’Clock News’ team:
link to youtube.com
Spot on, and viciously funny.
(Inspired by Mhairi Black’s maiden speech, and by the Pussycat Dolls)
“Don’t Cha Wish Your MP Was Hot Like Me” by the Pussycat AwrightDolls
I know you vote for me (I know you vote for me)
I know you do (I know you do)
That’s why whenever I come around Kezia’s all over you
And I know you want Indy (I know you want it)
It’s easy to see (it’s easy to see)
And in the back of your mind
I know you should be in Westminster with me
(Chorus)
Don’t cha wish your MP was hot like me
Don’t cha wish your MP had a first-class degree
Don’t cha, don’t cha
Don’t cha wish your MP was honest like me
Don’t cha wish your MP was a Buddie like me
Don’t cha, don’t cha
Fight the Tories (fight the Tories)
Leave our budget alone (leave it alone)
Cause if it ain’t Indy
It just ain’t enough to mend a broken home
Let’s keep up the pressure (let’s stick it to them)
Unionists can’t play fair (you have to play fair)
See, ah dinnae care
But I know UK ain’t gonna wanna share
(Chorus)
Don’t cha wish your MP was hot like me
Don’t cha wish your MP had a first-class degree
Don’t cha, don’t cha
Don’t cha wish your MP was anti-austerity like me
Don’t cha wish your MP worked in a chippy
Don’t cha, don’t cha
I know I’m on your side
I know we’ll have a good time
I’m your voice
I’m fun
And I’m fine
I ain’t lying
Look at me, you ain’t blind (2x)
See, I know Kezia wants you (I know she wants you)
I understand (I understand)
I’d prob’ly be just as crazy aboot ye
If you were mah ain man
Maybe next parliament (maybe next parly)
Possibly (possibly)
Until then, Oh voter yir constituency’s safe wi’ me
(Chorus)
Don’t cha wish your MP was hot like me
Don’t cha wish your MP was frae Penilee
Don’t cha, don’t cha
Don’t cha wish your MP had chips fur her tea
Don’t cha wish your MP was a Jags fan like me
Don’t cha, don’t cha
The original:
link to youtube.com
Ain’t politics great nowadays!
Haha David, very good. That doesn’t mean to say that now is the time to get yourself carried away
Hi folks,
Have been having a wee bit of a sabbatical but Ninja Penguin sent me the Lyrics for All The Free Scots (Thanks Brian for commenting) and well, it was another song up for the murderin’..hope it didn’t put too many folk off as Ninja’s lyrics just keep getting better.
David, I would suggest you try recording your lyrics yourself, you don’t have to be a good singer, as many can testify tae my efforts but you wrote them so you have the idea in your head and are in the best position to express the lyrics as they ought to be done.Yew Choob’s mission statement is to encourage people to put their creative ideas out there no matter how they come out at first..they will get better.
Sorry I haven’t contributed for a while but the ‘gestapo’ have been doing my nut in lately but now is the time to say Fuck ’em. Time to write a will and record Long Live UK..watch this space.
Cheers folks
@Ian Brotherhood says:
13 July, 2015 at 9:05 pm Got a rough time frame? Was it in the past week?
Yes
The Clyde Bar (Helensburgh)
25/07/15
Yeah, we met up on Sunday with kendomacaroonbar & company at The Clyde Bar. The venue is old school awesome, you’re gonna love it Wingers.. they’ve even got a single bed (I tried it out) for customers! Here, check out the website and cheers for having us:
link to theclydebar.com
‘A’ and by the way, who’s got the clipboard with the up-to-date list of guests.. is it time to take registration again before first class?
Hey Quinie frae Angus, that’s a smashin’ line-up, enjoy le rock and see ye at the next.
Hey Gillian, aye, I didnay ken that song was written about JL.. it all makes sense now after playback, cheers
Hi Cactus.
I’m keeping a list in ‘Quarantine’, of those who want personalised badges for the Helensburgh get-together.
As it was suggested some weeks ago, that personalised badges may put off lurkers, we’re only doing badges for those who actually request them.
Therefore the badge list is not a list of everyone who’s intimated that they’re gonna be there. You’d have to trawl back through ‘off-topic’ to collate that list…
“Homecoming Scotland a success” sticks in Jackie burds craw on reporting Scotland tonight
P T Camera ,
Ref JB
Aye an they (RS/JB ) had to get the “scaled Back Bannockburn Event ” No mention o the other crap that was put on the same day in Stirling no less , aye for spite nae doot.
David @ 9.50 Excellent , email it to Lewis Hamilton for the crack!
P T Camera ,
Ref JB
Aye an they (RS/JB ) had to get the “scaled Back Bannockburn Event ” No mention o the other crap that was put on the same day in Stirling no less , aye for spite nae doot.
David @ 9.50 Excellent , email it to Lewis Hamilton for the crack!
Hey Brian Doonthetoon, cheers for the directions, heading for the containment suite..
So aye, see ye there lurkers, bar’s open till 2am.
..teleporting to Q the now..
Hi folks, I’ve been having a wee play about with an idea and wondered what you thought and whether anyone would like to contribute a story to it? link to ourindyref.com
I thought it would be nice to create a repository for indyref experiences from ordinary people – so basically us reflecting on our own history, rather than the likes of Torrance & Cochrane.
@ majestic12, 13/07/15, 11:07pm
Thanks for that link; I’m fair helpless noo!
So, NASA have already made discoveries that challenge current scientific wisdom. What other amazing discoveries do you reckon there will be? Perhaps a positive case for the Union?
Nah, this isn’t science fiction.
Putopia (1951)
link to youtube.com
So, NASA have already made discoveries that challenge current scientific wisdom. What other amazing discoveries do you reckon there will be? Perhaps a positive case for the Union?
Nah, this isn’t science fiction.
Plutopia (1951)
link to youtube.com
They’re baaaaaaack.
link to wildernessofpeace.wordpress.com
As ever, if I’ve misread/misunderstood/miscalculated anything here, I’ll happily amend.
If Carlsberg did Paula Rose’s favourite songs…
link to youtube.com
I believe this was on the sound system, during that famous Invergowrie pool party.
Or, should that be ‘infamous’?
Nah, they haven’t got enough power to left to get to another universe!
Still recovering from T in the Park. I’m definitely getting too old for it, but just can’t stop. Here’s why: Gerry Cinnamon on the BBC Introducing stage on Sunday morning. Gig of the weekend.
link to youtube.com
Enjoy.
@ X_Sticks
Well done, you! Where do you get the stamina?
That was encouraging, hopeful even, hearing all those young folk enthusiastically belting out “Hope over Fear” at T!!!
Hope for the future yet. Still trying to figure out if the organisers knew what they were letting themselves in for.
Hi X_Sticks.
That video’s a cracker! Why? Because that’s a mainstream crowd at a mainstream festival.
I know the song because I’ve been at all the George Square rallies since ‘Hope Over Fear’ in October last year but the question is, how does a mainstream audience know it?
I can only surmise that the links to to the various clips on YouTube are being shared to those who aren’t particularly politically active and it’s striking a chord.
Gerry Cinnamon has a gig in Dundee on Sunday, 11th October; 7.30pm in Buskers.
link to ents24.com
Glad to hear you survived wallowing in mud with thousands of other people// Oh, sorry that was ‘communing with nature’ was it not?
As they say, your as young as you feel (afterwards!)
Just mastered the grinder – couple more links to go and that unicorn will be unchained!
@ Tackety Beets, ta, but I don’t want to distract poor old (young, successful, rich) Lewis Hamilton from his day job.
@ Jock Scot, thanks for the suggestions, but I think the world is a better place without my ‘vocal stylings’. I’ll stick to typing.
Chipmonkey’s been in touch – no detrimental effects from the Alyth flooding.
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Hi Paula Rose.
Typing about unicorns…
You may like our latest badge, available at Helensburgh next weekend.
link to sites.google.com
(((((HELP)))))
Can anyone give me the name of the background music to this vid?
Try and ignore the videos content, it’s the music i like and it’s
doing my head in, i can’t remember where i’ve heard it before.
I may be wrong but i think it’s a Scottish tune.
link to youtube.com
Glad to hear Chip ‘n’ Quin are OK.
X sticks
Thanks for posting that video.Great reaction from the crowd.We know there was big support for Yes among young folk,but a lot in that crowd didn’t bother voting.I hope that song prays on their minds and haunts them a bit.Make them more likely to get off their butts and vote next time round.And there were bound to be atleast some No voters in the crowd.I wonder what was running through their minds.Great stuff.
Stoker 8.32,
That tune is called “The Gael” and was written by our good friend Dougie McLean.
It was made famous in the movie “Last of The Mohicans”.
Cheers, Mealer, you’re a star!
Hi Cactus.
Do you want the pro-indy/Scottish videos for Helensburgh next weekend?
If so, I’ll arrange things with John. If not, it’ll give me a night to socialise.
8=)
Nae probs,Stoker.I was actually playing it earlier this evening,so there’s a coincidence.Though I probably wasn’t playing it quite the way it was written.More practise required!
@X_Sticks
Great to see, hope for the future right enough.
@Mealer
Well done big man on coming up with the answer for Stoker
This is the reason why I love this site…
link to youtube.com
Well, you know, Thepnr, on this site, anything goes…
link to youtube.com
@Brian Doonthetoon
Your a nutter! By the way was that a duet by Boris Johnson and that German bloke lol.
Aweright Brian Doonthetoon ~
Might be a good idea to have both live music and pro-indy/Scottish videos at The Clyde Bar, Helensburgh.. options are always good.
‘It’s aye better tae have and nae need, than tae need and nae have’
D and me’ll arrive earlier in the day to set up stage.
Loved this song from 1979 you may have loved it too
link to youtube.com
Ronnie A – thanks for asking. We are OK but Alyth Square and streets in that area are in a helluva state. Will take a huge clear-up operation. Good folk of Alyth out in force. John Swinney & Pete Wishart have both turned up to help/show support.
Fir ‘a’ Dundonians wherever they may be.
link to youtube.com
@bddt love the unicorn badge
Busy so won’t be at Helensburgh.
Next time.
Or as the Dundee street poet would say.
link to youtube.com
Can’t post this on main thread as it’s just too ‘out there’ and may put folk off, but Alex Salmond is going to be tearing strips off the Tories on Monday over the whole ‘Isisgate’ scandal, and that will, in turn, involve raising the unpleasantness of Blair/Iraq etc etc.
Just checked the Iraq Body Count website – 408 civilians killed/executed in the past week (not including the estimated 80 killed by a car bomb tonight). And that’s just the confirmed fatalities.
When the Tories (and any Blairites) get up to defend what’s happening, and/or what’s happened, it may help to mentally blank out whatever they’re saying – this could be a suitable alternative soundtrack for anyone watching British ‘democracy’ in action:
Joy Division, ‘Atrocity Exhibition’ –
link to youtube.com
BDtt,
Love the badge, sad I won’t be there.
Ian,
Oor Alex had a big prescence on PM this afternoon talking about this in some detail.
I don’t think Labour are too worried (don’t want to upset the tory voters, don’tcha know.
@Gerry Parker or someone associated wi iScot, I want to get the monthly hard copy subscription, but don’t do paypal. Any assistance gratefully received
@K1. Hi there. E mail me ken@iscot.scot and we’ll work something out for you
Hi K1, if you’re in the neighbourhood, we’re all heading for event Helensburgh next Saturday.
Most of the usual suspects will be there and more.
Come on down
Thanks Ken, just emailed you…and Cactus…I’ll be along to the west end one? Can’t recall when that is happening, but I’ll be there
Well, K1. Helensburgh is to the north-west of Glasgow so I guess it could be described as “the west end one”. That’s next Saturday, the 25th, in the Clyde Bar.
That’s the only Wings get-together I know of. Unless you mean the Kelvingrove Park to Glasgow Green trek on 1st August? I believe there will be Wingers at Glasgow Green but this Winger, onnyhoo, will not be getting his hiking boots on for the hour-and-a-quarter trek!
Dr Feelgood, ‘Milk & Alcohol’ –
link to youtube.com
@>–>– (test)
Here’s an unusual one, Billy Idol Mony Mony
link to youtube.com
If you’re running short of stuff to have nightmares about, check this:
STV News, John Mackay, The Krankies & John Barrowman, plugging panto at ‘the ess-ee see-see’.
link to youtube.com
@Thepnr –
Aye, and this is ‘unusual’ too – Billy Idol being interviewed by ‘Loose Women’.
The sexual tension is almost unbearable, as evidenced by Judy’s nervous giggling…
link to youtube.com
This is extraordinary:
Hunter S. Thomson confronted by one of the Hell’s Angels he lived with, during a chat show (1967) –
link to youtube.com
Check out these talented classical ladies:
link to youtube.com
@ Cactus (12.21am).
Thanks for that, there are no suitable superlatives available.
Now that was good Cactus!
Further on 1st August.
Looks like the ‘All Under One Banner’ event is just a march to Glasgow Green, finishing at 1pm.
However, it looks like a demo has been organised against BBC bias, at Pacific Quay from 2pm to 4pm.
link to facebook.com
Thanks, Cactus.
That was hilarious.
Ust found another video of Gerry Cinnamon doing ‘Hope Over Fear’ at TITP.
This one doesn’t cut off the start and is clearer.
link to youtube.com
‘Ust’ = ‘Just’!
Cheers BDtt.
I see pretty much the whole gig is on that page (on the right).
Off to go watch it again.
Campaign for an English Parliament
Is there any ‘mileage’ in our bid for Independence in supporting this Campaign?
@ian foulds
Campaign for an English Parliament
Yes, why not until the goal of full Independence could be achieved?
Basically four separate Parliaments within one United Kingdom must result in a kind of federalism with in effect FFA for each Parliament.
I really can’t see me supporting this in anything other than tacit agreement. Too busy with our own battles.
I posted this on one of the main pages a day or three ago, and sensibledave took umbrage.
England needs proper devolution, ie ‘regional’, meaning that there would be 8 regional parliaments, plus Scotland, Wales and NI, each with FFA, paying a sub to Westminster for Defence and Foreign Affairs.
Then, abolish the HoL and use the space for the ‘upper chamber’, ie 9 members from each ‘region’, giving an upper house of 99 members, so no need for a casting vote.
Of course, adoption of this idea could kill off the desire for Scottish independence.
So, maybe I’m talking out of my @®se…
My last post for tonight – roast beef is waiting for my enjoyment.
I suppose this could be regarded as the signature tune of Fluffy, Carbuncle and the Morningside chappie.
link to youtube.com
Funnily enough, the B side of that single could be their song as well.
“And we’re bet-ter together…”
link to youtube.com
Jeez, it’s quiet in here…
Onnyhoo, a quote from the link below, that shows that ‘the 56’ are making their presence known in ‘that London’.
One Tory’s response to the SNP 56 may have been prescient. “There seem to be more of you Scots,” he told the new nationalist MP, who pointed out that there were exactly the same number of Scottish MPs as in the previous parliament. “All the same,” he replied, “there seem to be more of you.”
link to archive.is
I’m gonna let you see another couple of badge designs we’ve come up with in the last week or so. (Available at Helensburgh.)
But, there’s a story behind the first.
I’ve just finished reading Dan Brown’s “Inferno”, in which there is much mention of Dante’s “The Divine Comedy” and, in particular, “Inferno”.
Thanks to Tommy Sheridan, the rallies in George Square and, of course, Gerry Cinnamon, the phrase “Hope Over Fear”, I believe, has become chiselled into the psyche of a large percentage of the Scottish nation. Gerry Cinnamon’s performance at TITP would tend to confirm that.
So, while reading Dan Brown’s book, when I came across the reference to Dante’s (probably) most famous quote from “Inferno”, “Hope Over Fear” immediately flagged itself up in my mind.
That quote is, “Abandon all hope, ye who enter here”. You see where I’m coming from, iye?
So, I did a Google image search and found what I was looking for. A bit of tweaking in Photoshop and I had the background. A wee bit adjustment of Dante’s words to fit in with “Hope Over Fear” – and a sticker on the road sign to reinforce the message, and the design was complete.
You can see it here:-
link to sites.google.com
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The second design is self-explanatory.
link to sites.google.com
Both excellent, BDtt.
Thanx, cearc.
@BDTT (8.32) –
‘Jeez, it’s quiet in here…’
Aye, it is my friend. As it is on the main threads.
Perhaps it’s because we’re now seeing the rawness of what the British ‘State’ involves.
What the Labour Party did tonight in the HOC; the ‘new’ scandals about child abuse (none of them are ‘new’ at all); the disgusting behaviour of that slug Cameron, ramping-up yet another Crusade…
It’s no wonder people get tired of it all – so tired, and scunnered, that they can’t even bring themselves to summon a comment.
Aye, cracking badges Mr Doonthetoon. I wonder if Gerry might join us on Saturday night..
Howdy cearc & Ian Brotherhood
Tonight’s theme song for Diane Abbott and the 47 other Labour MPs who defied their party whip & voted against the Tory welfare cuts:
Argent – “Hold Your Head Up” from 1972
link to youtube.com
And for the SNP song:
Bachman-Turner Overdrive – “Takin’ Care Of Business” (1974)
link to youtube.com
And for the Tories:
AC/DC – “Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap” (1976)
link to youtube.com
Aweright David, good choice of tunes, rockin’ it up, chairs dude!
Try this one night-shifters, drummer for hire:
link to youtube.com
Sharp Dressed Man cover (originally by the ZZ’s.)
Nice one Cactus, that drummer must be of the “If it’s worth doing, it’s worth doing to excess” school!
I’ve got a prize for anyone who can submit a dodgier 80’s music video before midnight.
Kelly Marie, ‘Feels Like I’m In Love’ –
link to youtube.com
PS Was she Scottish?
Kelly Marie is from Glasgow/Paisley (?) I met her in Red Bus Studios around 1977 whilst trawling demo tapes. Nice lassie.
Hi Ian.
From Wikipedia…
“Kelly Marie (born Jacqueline McKinnon, 16 October 1957, Paisley, Renfrewshire) is a Scottish disco singer. Her only notable hit was “Feels Like I’m in Love”, a #1 hit in the UK in 1980.”
Here’s one for you from 1988:-
link to youtube.com
(I assume you’re old enough to watch it!)
I will not be tempted…
I might just end up keeping that prize for meself…
Goombay Dance Band, ‘Seven Tears’ –
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Any of you nice peeps going to mention our Saturday night soiree on the main threads?
Cheers KendoMac/BDTT, and hoots to ye Cactus – didn’t see your greeting earlier.
And as for Paula Rose? Well, if the lady’s not for tempting, so be it, but we can dream…
@BDTT –
Ah, yes ‘Sabrina’.
I remember the day they shot that video, near Greenock it was. They were very lucky with the weather.
Unfortunately, the video is too good to have a chance of winning the prize.
Did our mutual friend block you too, Paula? Awfully touchy, isn’t he?
No he hasn’t – but I was being correct in that his tetchiness is due to his illness, I’ve noticed it before. He is often very funny and I enjoy his tweets – Bit amused that he took umbrage at “dears” as Iv’e used that term of endearment in previous tweets to him.
Do we have the wondrous pleasure of being in your company in Helensburgh on Saturday?
McTernan calls Labour members stupid for supporting Corbyn who is polling in the lead over Burnham hahahahaha.
@Cactus
Got your email forwarded, looking good for Saturday at the Clyde Bar in Helensburgh. All welcome.
Party time!
Helensburgh? Saturday? Probably not, it’s a bit far.
Morag honey – borrow Nicola’s heliwotsit.
He got snappy when I responded to a tweet of his about hypoglycaemia with a joke – I’m on a diet. He expected me to know he was diabetic, but I didn’t. I only followed him on a whim, I’m not psychic and I don’t hang on his every tweet.
I apologised quite handsomely, but he didn’t acknowledge the apology at all. I tried to take his side in an argument with some stupid woo who was trying to claim a fad diet could cure diabetes or arthritis or something, and he turned on me, calling me stupid and ignorant for remarking that an ultra-low calorie diet can cause some mild cases of type 2 diabetes to go into remission. Which is a simple fact. (Actually effective in about 80% of cases in cats, though I didn’t bother to tell him that bit. Works on a smaller percentage of human cases.)
Apparently he doesn’t acknowledge that some cases of type 2 diabetes are milder than others, or that these cases respond to a drastic diet. So I’m stupid and he blocks me. I’m just the one with the biochemistry degree.
I probably won’t even notice. Tetchy is putting it a bit mildly though.
I ought to go to Millport, really.
@Paula Rose
LOL
Ah Morag shame you can’t make it.
Tell me what time, just in case.
@Morag
There is no time but 19:00 seems about right, I hear the music starts around 19:30
I think hotels and B&B’s are in short supply, I’m sure though something could be organised. That is if your not too fussy
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I got my Mojave Working. link to youtube.com Cheers Afro-Celt Sound System.
Hi Michael McCabe.
Your new gravatar is similar to one of our new badges.
See my post here:-
link to wingsoverscotland.com
Aweright thepnr, aye Saturday night is gonna be a belter. Maybe everywhere being booked-up is a good sign.. the sooner people arrive the better the boogey!
Calling all musical people.. singers, poets, guitarists, mandoliners, violinists, pipers, pianists, tambouriners, percussionists, bodhranists, foot-tappers, spooners etc.. drop a message here if you fancy doing a turn. You’re in for a treat, you don’t wanna miss this one.
Also, I wonder if Independence Live are gonna make an appearance.. what-say Kevin & Derek?
I’m heading out of office for a few days on another adventure, see y’all Saturday party people!
@Cactus
You missed out the berry pickers and tattie howkers. Good Dundee fowk!
An auld ain bit a guid ain. Hear the words.
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NATASHA – where are you sweetest – will need pretty girlies apart from moi in Helen’s burgh!
Long-ish watch at 35 mins, but if you’re a Patrick McGoohan/The Prisoner fan, this is very good – interview, from 1977:
link to youtube.com
@Ian Brotherhood
Bookmarked for tomorrow, loved the Prisoner but bedtime looms and sweet dreams.
link to youtube.com
Romeo’s Tune link to youtube.com
Ever fallen in love with someone you shouldn’t have fallen in love with. No not that one. link to youtube.com
some early Jimmy Cliff. link to youtube.com
Jolene No not that one. link to youtube.com
Till it happens to you. link to youtube.com
I was really looking forward to Helensburgh on Saturday. Just found out today some friends have booked somewhere on the same night for my Birthday so Alas I Cant make it (Bummer) Any how next time. Hope you all have a great Weekend.
For my 100th post on Wilderness of Peace, I think Private Eye has finally lost me for good.
link to wildernessofpeace.wordpress.com
For a while, I’d been content to praise them for the genuine good they do. But when you toe the Unionist line so completely that *Kevin Hague* is cited as a credible source about economics & business (last issue presented the Lib Dem’s side of the General Election campaign in Ian Blackford’s constituency with absolutely no scrutiny & took the “SNP cybernat” story completely at face value) you’ve just lost me. Add in a petty jibe about Jeremy Corbyn being electoral suicide, and I’ve lost any respect I had left for them.
Hell mend ye.
K1 put this up on the main topics which he got from the Revs Twitter feed. Quite good if you ask me. link to youtube.com
Hey Michael
Sorry to hear you can’t make it to Helensburgh on Saturday. I hope you have a great birthday wie yer pals.
This Saturday wings over Scotland are coming to the Clyde Bar
LIVE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT 6-11.30
Not to be missed
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And this Facebook page:-
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Joe Walsh & Billy Gibbons – Life In The Fast Lane
link to youtube.com
Me also cavemen.
The Groupies – Primitive
link to youtube.com
A track I played at many a party over the years. A band from Hawick…
link to youtube.com
@Brian Doonthetoon
That was braw, put I smile on my face. I was that age once
Just getting myself warmed up for the morn with some hot stuff!
link to youtube.com
And if you get to the Clyde bar early then you might be in time for…
link to youtube.com
Hi Thepnr.
Maybe this should be the song of 25th July…
link to youtube.com
This is one for Paula.
link to youtube.com
Because this came up after a previous Youtube video, I listened to it again, for the first time in a couple of decades.
A classic of ‘Scotch humor, y’all’…
link to youtube.com
Classic!
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Just finished washing up – sticks head out, oh Thepnr dear – very funny xx, where’s my lovely Natasha?
Shakira – Gypsy
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Shakira – Gypsy: link to youtube.com
Here’s one for all the party goers tomorrow night, have a guid yin.
The McCalmans – Still Gonna Die
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@Stoker
Better have some fun then eh Stoker. wouldn’t mind if Shakira came along to the party. No such luck
It’s Paula Rose for me then, that’s a lively one 
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Dougie MacLean – The Gael
link to youtube.com
@ Thepnr – LOL, great minds and all that, i can’t see past Shakira.
Hope you all have a great night.
Here’s another lively one.
Erasure – Drama
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No comment.
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Eddie Rabbitt – Every Which Way But Loose (Live 1981)
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Pedicure sorted, hair sorted, snake trained, badges polished, ready to party!
Hi Paula, top billing again I see
Well, time for me to go and chuck another log on the fire.
Sweet dreams troops!
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Work all night eh!
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There’s definitely something about this site.
King Bee – Must Bee the Music
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Check the size of the mobile phones.
KLF – 3 a.m. eternal
link to youtube.com
Relax, only time is eternal. Not even the BBC can do anything about that.
Still rockin’?
Boogie Down Productions – My Philosophy
link to youtube.com
No flagging now.
KRS-One – Step Into A World (Rapture’s Delight)
link to youtube.com
Gillian_Ruglonian wrote:
“Hi Paula, top billing again I see”
I would have had top billing but it would appear one of my contributions has been ejected into the ether. Besides, i got the one i wanted, the 13000th and i don’t mind losing star billing to Queenie. This showbiz lark can be a bit of a drag at times.
Here’s one for today’s birthday folks and to fire up tonights party folks. Get out those air guitars and get strumming along.
The Beatles – Birthday song
link to youtube.com
I’m not a fan of cRAP music but this one, first posted on WOS two days ago by K1, needs a thorough airing and spread far and wide.
link to youtube.com
WARNING for the more gentle souls among us, contains strong language.
Have a great weekend folks.
Life’s very short and there’s no dummy runs at it.
Branded – Living Life In The Fast Lane
link to youtube.com
Stoker
I missed “keep your coins…” first time round and couldn’t be bothered looking for it. Hence all the crap shit. Cheers.
Here’s one of my faves – It ain’t what you do…
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I hope all you lucky people off to party tonight have a lovely night. Typical. As well as a good natter and a drink or three there’s to be live music,sing song,open mike… and I can’t join you. West Coasters – be carefull with the hairy string, watch out for the spikey heels and don’t let my bestie Paula anywhere near a swimming pool. You have been warned!
Okay folks, who’s all in helensburgh?
We’re here, the sun’s out and its time to get the party started
@Gillian
I’ve been in – dropped off a table and projection screen and no body there – gone back home again ! Brilliant weather though !
For Claudia.
Lauryn Hill – Ex-Factor
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5 miles from Helensburgh,sitting drinking whiskey whilst Paula feeds her snake and the PNR cooks mince and tatties..what more could a choob ask for.. oh a Wings doo later on..That’ll do nicely.
We’re having nosebags in the Henry Bell, round the corner from The Clyde Bar.
See yooz soon!
Have fun all of you. Sorry I can’t be there.
Betty Boop and I are along the road in the Commodore waiting for some nosh. Thought that trying to last until the wee sma’ hours on nothing but alcohol was a bad idea.
@ Bdtt & Gillian
Just waiting to trough at the Commodore along the street at the Travelodge. Lovely outside in the sun. !
@cearc we’ll have a wee snifter for you
Paula will be gutted, she still has your swimming thong
Have a great night, would love to have been there.
Best wishes to all!
Our beloved Scotland when the sun is shining…
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Was hoping, right up until yesterday, to make it along, but ’twas not to be.
Gutted.
Hope youse all have a rerr terr, and please sink one for me.
Slainte (sniff…)
@ian brotherhood
Sent you a tweet asking that very question. You need more followers young man (sorry, rum talking)
Hope you guys are having a party & Cactus hasn’t bust his G string yet. Would love to have been there but the holidays beckoned. Enjoy yersels & ayes on the prize.
Labour leadership contest…
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@Jim T –
Here’s to ye’s!
I do hope it’s a decent rum you’re into, and not some red-eye such as the likes of meself would instinctively favour.
In any event, bottoms-up!
Ian Brotherhood
I could just carry on from last night, though I wouldn’t want to compete with deluge of updates from Hellensborough.
How’s about one, seeing as the Rev has Miranda up for scrutiny, allegedly?
The Adventures of Stevie V – Dirty Cash (Money Talks)
link to youtube.com
btw, Hong Kong Phooey hasn’t managed to turn up any new dirt on HSBC yet, but I hear Spot is on the case now.
Cameron,
I think they’ll be getting a bit past managing updates by now.
cearc
That’s no excuse.
Update: home, and about to consume a Lidl chicken jalfrezi with samosas and onion bhajis.
I believe a good night was had by us all.
I will be in no hurry to surface later today…
A huge thank you to all that attended the WoS Helensburgh shindig last night and this morning. It was great to meet up again with so many well kent faces who travelled far and wide to get here.
For those who are feeling slightly ‘damaged’ this morning….I share your pain
Can we have oor Jock back please. What’s the world coming to when we let him go to one of your soirees and we don’t seem to have had him returned.Oor Technical director John let go of the leash and for this he will be ‘choobed’. BUT apparently you had this evening of joviality when Ronnie Anderson was ‘oot the country’. Anyhoos, John did say that you all had a blast and he would like to convey his gratitude for ‘looking after him’. Wingers doing what Wingers do ..mingling and having fun. Cheers.
Santa Ponsa ponsing aboot.
Sos Lads N Lassies,for missing the party. I trust everyone had a good time & made many new friends as Wingers do. Thanks for phone call Jock much appeiciated.
@Yew Choob
I have it on good authority that Jock Scot is being well looked after for now. He will make his own way back so don’t fret!
@ Ronnie Anderson
While you were “ponsing” aboot, I felt obliged to mark your absence doon the watter by having your drinks for you. Awfy guid, ta!
Missed all of you who didn’t make it. A wee bit of gossip; Paula had a wee bit of competition in the heels department, but, carried off the dance moves with aplomb (or was she carried off? = can’t quite remember…)
Oh gosh – I’ve just woke up barefoot on the shore of Loch Lomond – what happened?
This was played on RS earlier today. Good stuff, and quite liable to elicit a tear, especially if you’ve a hangover and are already missing the good friends you were with…
Aly Bain, Phil Cunningham, ‘Sophie’s Lullaby’ –
link to youtube.com
PR,
Oh no! You haven’t lost your sparkly, ultra-high heels?
cearc honey dearest – no probs, rolled over and found them.
Good times on Saturday night with y’all and great to meet some new faces.
Cheers to Helensburgh, The Clyde Bar staff, the weather and all you party people there
Next event..
March for Independence from KG park this Saturday 1st August 2015.. there’s going to be thousands of people there, so get in amongst it and let’s re-run the fun!
Here’s an impressive kitten for @EmergancyKittens.
Are we a sufficiently competent society to be secure in our ability to manage bioengineering technologies, in our pseudo-capitalist, monopoly interest/corporatist state paradigm?
Ruby (F1 Savannah) Jumping 8 feet
link to youtube.com
Some vital research material for the Rev.
Dave Allen on the supernatural.
link to youtube.com
Dave Allen on teaching your kid about time
link to youtube.com
Dave Allen on Religion
link to youtube.com
Just cause it’s me and after getting a name check in the NME, here’s some more surfing and stuff. (that wasn’t poetry Rev., it’s they way I tell them)
Asian Dub Foundation – Hope
link to youtube.com
P.S. Just found that mixes well with ADF’s “Committed to Life” as the lead, IMO anyway.
@ Betty Boop Good tae see you,s all had fun in Helensburgh & doing what Wingers do Looking after one & other & making new friends,Betty I know you would do justice on the drinks front & Jims ah big lad to carry you home.I,ve had one all nighter naemair I say naemair lol.
Anybody got a Link to Helensburgh nite out , I,ll look in later tonight.
Ronnie, I don’t think there was a live-stream. Hope you’re having a good time, ya layaboot.
While I can still get away with it, I hope.
Asian Dub Foundation – A History Of Now
link to youtube.com
And here’s one I thought sci-fi fans might appreciate.
Asian Dub Foundation – Mindlock (THX 1138 Rescore)
link to youtube.com
Sorry, but I just think ADF are a remarkably flexible and accomplished ansamble, though admittedly perhaps not on the scale of Andre Rieu. Different objectives though, I think. Different backers and audience, almost certainly.
Asian Dub Foundation – A New London Eye
link to youtube.com
@ Cameron B wha,s ah layaboot.I,ll let you know Mr I,ve never stopped Promoting since I got hear,I,ve convinced a few Notherners to our cause,the cheek of you thinking Im slacking lol.
@ Cameron B I can promise you that Ronnie is no sitting on arse, I’m Vinny from Wexford and I will be voting SNP nnext election.
Vinny
Cheers Vinny. Hope you’re having a good one yourself.
Apologies for doubting you Ronnie.
Can I just apologies to everyone, all at the same time, here and now? Get it over an done with all in a one-er? Thing is, I voted Yes.
It wasn’t my fault. Honest, I ran out of gas. I had a flat tire. I didn’t have enough money for cab fair. My tux didn’t come back from the cleaner. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts. I wasn’t my fault I swear to God. – apologies JB.
Elvis Presley & Anita Wood – Who’s Sorry Now (mostly Anita)
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For Ronnie, et al.
I’ve uploaded some pics from Saturday at Helensburgh and, also, a compilation vid of Jock Scot.
You can find the crimes here:-
link to sites.google.com
Thanks Brian and Pete, John didn’t say that you’d allowed Jock on a stage..that was brave.
@Ian Botherhood, apart from losing Jock, oor John did manage that elusive shot of Paula as posted below..for the more pornographic ‘Unicorn on a thigh’ picture..you will have to offer a load of cash ..I mean a LOAD.
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@Brian Doonthetoon
Very good, sure I spotted an extra from The Exorcist moonlighting lol.
@BDTT –
Good stuff!
I thought Paula Rose was there?
Don’t tell me she managed to evade all the cameras yet again?!
Fast on the heels of the lunacy that was Eduard Khil (Trololo Man) and the zaniness of Messer Chups, here’s Vitas.
Mind now, these guys are tough. They defeated the Nazis.
Vitas – The 7th Element (beat that Besson)
link to youtube.com
How much can you take?
Ian honey – as a special treat I allowed Jock Scot to take some pics of moi! No doubt he’ll work out how to put them up here once he has managed to stop his hands shaking.
@Paula Rose –
No, he won’t – he’ll keep them to himself. The bastard!
@Ian Brotherhood…the price just went UP.
@Yew Choob
Haha, much ye want gon tell us tell us
@Yew Choob –
Our comments overlapped…
Erm, eh, well, can we come to some kind of arrangement?
Some things are never for sale and dignity is probably the number one.
Behave dears or I shall withdraw permissions for any other pics.
@Paula Rose and Jock Scot
This is for you
link to youtube.com
I’m still processing a pic of Paula Rose from Invergowrie that was spoilt by failure of flash. It’s not one of my high priorities because I am satisfied, having seen her in the crotchless balaclava, on her way to the pool that night.
AS pic is a poor second.
But I’ll persevere in making it available to the wider interweb…
I can finally reveal that Paula Rose refused a lucrative contract Point Blank to appear as our monthly centre fold spread (‘au natural’) as the staple location was too close for comfort.
The offer still stands M’aam
“AS pic is a poor second” = “A pic is a poor second”.
“Lack of proofreading”, came the reply.
@ThePNR
You will have to ask if you can get a discount from Paula as she isn’t under licence to Yew Choob…YET.
Blackmail is such a lurid vice wouldn’t you agree but can let you have a sneak peak at the negative for £200 -(minus) Travel, taxis,mince and tatties and looking after John..make it a fiver
@Ian Brotherhood
Took my post 23 minutes to register so understandable and do forgive our sense of fun..must be that bad influence which is so good here x
@Paula
If you are hiding Jock in your closet…..can you send him back cos Ninja Penguin has covertly furnished us with some new lyrics and we could do with, what passes as, a vocalist around here. We have heard from MFI 5 that he may have been spotted in Rutherglen of all places..must be that kick-ass Yes Rutherglen mob who owned the dance floor in Helensburgh by the way, according to John.
@Yew Choob Truth be told!
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Filmed in bonny Scotland, the stormy, atmospheric backdrop of the latest offering is provided courtesy of the tiny island of Easdale, in the Inner Hebrides. Directed by long-standing Florence collaborator Vincent Haycock, it’s a poignant piece of cinematic brilliance.
Ditching her usual sequins and cape, we see the magnificent Florence comfort a young version of herself, face a group of violent men, struggle with love, loss, family – and sing to a fisherman. Guaranteed to give you goosebumps.
Florence and the Machine
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@ BrianDTT nice pics B thanks at least I get to see some of Helensburgh.
@ Jock S Cactus you,s did ah grand job.
@ Gillian Ruglian thanks to you & your partner for the banners,they,ll look great at the Wings Stall.
@ CameronB lol did that suprize you eh Vinny fae Waterford lol,I have another one George Storer fae Lothian region he will be looking in by Tues of next week & a Couple fae Banknock, Cameron no need to appologise I know you were only kiddin lol.
ronnie anderson
lololololololololo
Who owned the dance floor? The Yes Rutherglen mob felt so welcome that you pulled a usually very shy Heather (hevvabeccywoss) out of her shell hahaha. It was fantastic night. Dixie set up the night, singing from Cactus, videos from Brian and Yewchoob had us dancing early doors. I canny wait for the next bash. Yes Rutherglen are organising a night soon. We’ll let you know the details in due course and hopefully you will give us the opportunity to return the favour and welcome you to our event.
@ hevvabeccywoss lovely to have you all along and so pleased that you recognise our ownership (smiley, winky thingie) xx
@hevvabeccywoss
Hello Heather, nice to see you here in Off Topic. As for the dancing! Thanks for taking care of an old timer
@Yew Choob I like the sound of that unicorn on thigh tattoo. Sounds epic lol
@Paula Rose you’ve got the moves. I couldn’t keep up with you but it was fun trying ????
@Thepnr I don’t remember any old timers just a distinguished gentleman who did me the honour of a dance.
Right with all those compliments you all owe me a drink. Who’s up for it hahaha x
Um I don’t actually remember allowing any of the Yew Choob team access to my unicorn – another wings myth! Cocktails next time hevvabeccywoss no probs xx
Erm I don’t know why question marks appeared on my last post. I entered a smiley face.
Cocktails it is @Paula Rose
Hi Folks, sorry if HQ have been giving you a hard time..I’ve been in touch by fashioning a way to access the internet and stoap their moaning..I’ve been kept on a leash for too long and the break has been wonderful, thanks to my new handler/wearer for looking after me. Heather you were great on Saturday and a total pleasure to meet you. Wings are lucky to have you on board, methinks. Had an absolute ball at Helensburgh and wasn’t Dixie excellent..I missed some of the turns unfortunately as some Russian chap started wearing me and I got a bit confused. Anyone going to the March in Glasgow on Saturday..I think Gillian is, so will we be there as Wingers or individual subversives?
Damn, won’t make the march in Glasgow this weekend either.
Just hope I’ll make it to the proposed Rutherglen do.
About time Embra got it’s act together for another do too!
@Paula
My dear, I shall contact HQ and check this out but you did wake up not wearing your shoes if I recall.
@Heather
As the poster’s keep saying..’careful now’. And if you are up for a drink..would you be available to meet up after the March on Saturday for a ‘drink and a strategy sesh’ to discuss some of the ideas we came up with at Helensburgh.
@Ronnie
Don’t burn
@Jock Scot
Ya dirty stop-out and did you say Russian?..who else was wearing you on Saturday?
Hi Jock.
I’m guessing some Wingers are going on the march – two and a half miles, an hour and a quarter – but I think there will be more Wingers at the BBC demo in the afternoon.
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Hiya guys, I hope Helen’s got her burgh back in order after the weekend!
Another memorable night for the wings family, thanks to everyone involved and love to you all
If folk are up for it, we may as well take advantage of all being in the same place this weekend and have a wee meet-up after the march. What say you’s?
Oh, and the Yes Rutherglen shindig is proposed for Friday 18th September, details to follow xx
@Jock Scot A drink after the March you say? Mmm I believe that could be arranged. Purely for strategizing of course and nothing to do with the banter hahaha.
See you on Saturday troops
Grouse Beater & donald (if you read WOS)
I was caught in two minds.
The Ventures – Wipeout (live)
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surprise
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Robert Peffers hasn’t posted for awhile, does anyone know if he is okay?
Hi Jock et al.
Yooz not going to the BBC Demo on Saturday afternoon?
Ronnie’ll mark you absent in the register…
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Brian
Wasn’t too sure what was happening this weekend but think we could do both and then have a brain-storming session.
Aye, post-march refreshments this Saturday afternoon, count me in.
Dixie and I were back ROCKing The Clutha mic last night (hosted by the amazing Mr Dandelion). A braw night of singing and dancing had by all!
The bar is now situated in the courtyard/garden area and the famous tree still remains.. in fact, there are a few new branches which have sprouted
So there’s a thought.. once we arrive at Glasgow Green, who’s up for post-march refreshments in The Clutha? (5 mins away)
Hi Cactus.
Ronnie’s looking for a good number of Wingers at the BBC Demo, 2pm to 4pm.
Hey Brian Doonthetoon ~
Maybes then we could participate in an old-fashioned Glasgow tradition and have a mini ‘pub crawl’ on route to the quay..
Starters at The Clutha and work our way down the Clyde towards.. a half here, a half there? We’ll be dancing by the time we arrive!
Question:
Who knows what Helensburghs The Clyde bar and Glasgows The Clutha bar share in common?
Cactus,
I think the Clutha is a great idea. After Dixie telling us how the owner paid for the refit out of his own pocket it will be good to show support and get money in the tills.
Clearly that is my only motivation and nothing to do with drinking whisky lol
I’m sure Gillian_Ruglonian and I will be going to the BBC demo but heading for drinks after that
And for all us grammar Nazis out there (in here?)
I give you … Weird Al Yankovic
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and (assuming my last post went through ok (it had the N word in it, no, not the ni* word, the one with the z in it))
Here’s a wee video of arguably the greatest metal guitarist around today – Zakk Wylde
As our American cousins might drawl … “Awesome”
link to youtube.com
And, just before I get back to reading about “Physical Layer Characteristics of Universal Access Transmitters for ADS-B”, here’s a short clip of Zakk’s fingering technique (steady, Paula)
link to youtube.com
@ Cactus:-
Excellent suggestion for a gathering at The Clutha post demo.
Excellent way for us to show our support for people who have
been through some unimaginably terrible times recently.
So, looks like there’s a plan coming together…marching, sticking two fingers up at PQ, then showing our support at a great Glasgow institution.
Who could refuse
Oh decisions – Glasgae town, should I stay (in Brechin) or should I go? Perhaps I’ll do another crowd funder to hire Nicola’s chopper.
Oh the angst. Searching desperately for inspiration!
I found it, hallelujah, on one that I’ve already posted here lol.
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“Rock the Clutha” – music by The Clash, anyone got the lyrics?
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Jim Thomson
You come across as some who might be able to answer this question.
Bullshit or not?
Ongoing academic explanation of the SEG.
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@ Gillian_Ruglonian faerie with wings?
Cameron – thanks for that bud. 9 minutes of my life that have just evaporated!
I have to say though, some hair! I want hair like that.
I have no idea what the Searl “machine” is but from the very brief snippets of video, it looks like induced currents in a grooved surfaces of aluminium rollers (no idea if the metal is Al or not). The grooves will allow multiple surface eddy currents to exist across the face of the roller.
The rotors could be ferrous or non-ferrous. If non-ferrous but conductive, then there will still be induced surface currents setting up opposing collapsing mag fields to that causing the currents and will result in repulsion. The geometry looks like it would cause the rotation of the rollers as well as the repulsion of the roller group.
But hey, I only have an ONC in electrical engineering (from hundreds of years ago). We were taught about series v shunt wound motors and that’s what I’m referencing in my cloudy heid-store. As well as some tiny remnants of stuff I used to know about super-cooled conduction.
So, anyway, I do hope someone gave him a safety briefing about working at heights. Looks like an awfy long way down just behind him! Maybe the guy to his left was the safetyman
Ooo multiple surface eddies and repulsion of rollers coupled with shunt wound motors – heaven again on Off-topic, swoon.
… and another thing, he really does go on a bit. Not exactly concise. He’s obviously had a bad experience when someone criticised his “tainted” data back in his early academic history.
Yippee we’re O/T on O/T where’s our fave O/Ter , where’s AuldA?
Hi CameronB Brodie.
Comments on that video for which you gave the link.
Like Jim, I was wondering about the hair. Did Sheldon Cooper let Penny experiment with it?
On the rest…
I’m quite happy believing that when the flux linking a circuit changes, an electro-magnetic force is induced, and that the magnitude of the induced EMF is directly proportional to the rate of change of flux linkage.
Furthermore, the induced EMF acts in such a manner as to oppose the cause to which it is due.
Faraday and Lenz have a lot to answer for!
Oh the magnetic forces of attraction with those other bits!
Jim Thomson
I wasn’t really expecting such an informative reply. Thanks, though I could , of course, ask the same question of your theory.
Ignorance is bliss, so don’t read Wings Over Scotland. It’s bad for your bliss folks.
Also, Jim, I didn’t put a gun to your head.
Cheers
Gutted I missed the party on Saturday, hope you guys all had a grand old time!
I’ll definitely pop round for the next one, if you’ll have me.
Finlay dear – do you dance?
Paula Rose @9.26pm, happy days dear, slip aff thae 6 inch heels and get cumfy wi yer 3 inch baffies x
Brian Doonthetoon
Weird hairdos and flux capacitors. Mmmm. Not wanting to knock the subject matter, as I understand virtually zilch about physics (as evidenced by my lack of a Higher qualification in the subject), I think the vid shows it is relatively easy to gain mileage when expounding on specialist knowledge. I thought the guy sounded like he knew what he was talking about, though somewhat implausible. Book – cover – judge?
Saying that, the first thing I thought of was Will Podmore selling his tripe.
How else has a misleadingly branded British Labour party survived for so long in Scotland, selling English imperialism? Corrupted working-class leaders and bamboozle merchants spinning shite to the flock and all supported by a corrupt BBC and right-wing press. That’s how.
Sorry for preaching to the converted.
Thing is, I’m a sucker when it comes to “trying” to help :-p
I’m also always trying to find out what makes stuff tick … and then it stops … just when I get that last screw out …
And when it’s all back together again, there are a few spare bits that never seemed to have been necessary in the first place.
Which reminds me of a lad I had the great fortune to work alongside just at the end of my apprenticeship. He had a multiplicity of previous work experiences, one of which was working in a TV repair shop. His fault-finding techniques were legendary.
He had a theory that when someone designed a new TV, they handed the circuit to one of the technicians to build it. The finance people then got involved and got the tech to start removing components until it stopped working. The last one was replaced and that was the final design! There is probably some truth in there, and the techs would have made a few changes to stop the thing bursting into flames no doubt!
Ahh, those were the days, when you could hold a component in your hand and actually read what the value was without having to use a microscope.
Hi CameronB Brodie.
“How else has a misleadingly branded British Labour party survived for so long in Scotland, selling English imperialism?”
Have you read this, from Tuesday, 28 April 2015? The sentence about “beholden” would answer your question, methinks.
link to tarffadvertiser.blogspot.co.uk
Jim Thomson
I could do with one of those to read my phone. :0
Still not sorted out a pair of specks yet. ;(
Hi Jim.
Remember the days, when the TV went on the blink, the guy came up to the house, switched it on, then announced “It’ll be the picture valve”?
My uncle had absolutely no training in TV repairing. But he repaired TV’s, with around a 90% success rate. He took the back off, looked for a valve or valve that wasn’t lit, and replaced.
I’ve just realised – I’ve forgotten the mnemonic for the resistor colour codes…
“valve or valve” = “valve or valves”.
Valves? link to youtube.com
Brian Doonthetoon
Thank Brians. I read that when first posted here but think the facts are of such significance they needs to be put in front of every Scot to consider.
Westminster binds Scotland to the Union, through subterfuge, subversion and superior numbers. Once you understand that, the choices become a whole lot simpler, IMO.
link to tarffadvertiser.blogspot.co.uk
Thanks Paula. Another ‘new’ one to add to the collection.
Haha Paula, I saw them too. Those were the days lol.
Excellent. In that case it’s the settled will of the Wings-crew, who have said YES to The Clutha bar this Saturday late afternoon (the best bar in toon.)
From Glasgow Green we first go ‘doon the watter’ to the Quay, then back ‘up the watter’ to The C, for afters. (maybe we could charter The Waverley?)
Hey Oneironaut, T Jenny, Scaredy Cat, Alba4eva.. hope yeez are winning well.. gie’s a wave!
I don’t know about “Acid Jelly”, so here’s some Lemon Jelly instead.
Lemon Jelly – Nice weather for Ducks
link to youtube.com
@ Paula Rose CameronB one of the reasons I like WOS its like the Highdron Kaleidoscope People of many hue,s & many colours.How diz Wings work again & again.lol
Brian – you are just trying to get me to type something that never was quite PC.
The mnemonic was based on B B R O Y G B V G W
but I’m not falling for that old trick
I had a chat with Jock Scott via F/B about Sat I hope that Many Wingers turn up to support You,s. You,s might be missing Me but You,s wont be short on Information & Talent in Promotion of WOS & INDY SITES.
BrianDTT/PeteTC I,ll be needing a good few badges to send out to People I met here Unicorn/Johnbull jiggin.
Just found this accoustic cover of James Taylor’s great song Fire and Rain.
Vindicates all us folkies moaning about over studio production back in the day.
Beautiful cello work by the young lad as well.
youtu.be/8WqwhEy1cK8
Sorry Rev. (forgot to strip the url there.)
Hi Jim T.
I did a Google search and that mnemonic you refer to is NOT the one I was thinking of!
In fact, none of those I came across rang any bells.
Brian Dtt – the one I had stuck in my head started with “Big Boys” and ended “Go Without”
Just updated laptop to Win 10 – only took 90 mins :-/
Had an issue with the trackpad scrolling but that’s now (nearly) sorted. Damn thing now operates in the opposite sense.
Betty B is not quite ready for her one to be blitzed :-p
This is the toughest article I’ve ever written, because it’s the only time I’ve felt moved enough to break ranks and disagree with a great number of my friends and other independence supporters:
link to wildernessofpeace.wordpress.com
For what it’s worth, I think events are moving fast enough that a second referendum will seem academic, a mere formality, compared to what the Tory government are continuing to do.
@ CameronB Brodie
Now see what I have to put up with? You would ask… Nigh on 40 years and ma heid is fu’! Mind you, I don’t remember much of it.
My tuppence worth. That bloke was talking mince. Anyone who looks like he is wearing a cat on his head cannot be taken seriously! Mind you, it looked like he was somewhere west coast, USA and my son came across a bloke with a rabbit on his head down on the Big Sur, so maybe that passes for chic there.
What do I know though because…
@ hevvabeccywoss, 28/7/15, 11:27pm
@ thepnr
I thought you had extinguished some old fella on the dance floor in Helensburgh! Then I put my specs on…
Anyways, pleased to meet you Heather and glad you were gentle with thepnr!
Betty Boop
I must admit I found it difficult not to judge by appearance, even though my haircut was not dissimilar when I was young and daft(er). I found it easier to doubt though, when reference was made to the prominent chemical physicist, as I thought this was a mechanical physics problem.
What do I know thought? Bliss.
Anyone care to spoil my bliss?
@Taranaich –
Powerful stuff, and FWIW, I fully agree with your take on it all.
Please allow me to flag-up a couple of typos:
The Gordon Wilson quote near the start: ‘That is the making of political leader.’ Surely ‘a’ missing there?
And much further on…‘We couldn’t assume we would have won the first won.’ Second ‘won’ should be ‘one, right?
Sorry to be pedantic-heid, but we all have blind spots.
Really enjoyed it – the passion pulses out if it all, and that’s what we need right now when so many are feeling jaded.
More power to ye mister, as always.
I generally find that Thepnr needs a firm hand. Btw way way O/T if I can turn out in all my finery on Saturday – who is first to volunteer to sleep on the floor and allow moi an uninterrupted kip?
@betty hoop the pleasure was all mine. I can’t remember being on a night out with so many new friends but feeling so welcome and like I’d known you for years. It’s a strong group off people who can pull that off. It’s hilarious you thought I’d extinguished their. No chance, I value my dancing partners too much lol
@Paula Rose ‘if I can turn out in all my finery’ I didn’t think you could turn out in anything less than finery. A lady of such extremely good taste as yourself surely would never slum it in anything less than fabulous darling
That one – link to youtube.com
WOO-HOO!
I got 1st comment on a new story!
I am humbled…
BTW: for those coming to the BBC demo on Saturday afternoon, look for the new Wings banners hanging from a rather long pole.
Climb down to the bottom and you should find Pete and I and whover else has turned up.
Scottish culture – swoon xx
link to youtube.com
“whover” = “whoever”.
@ Bdtt
You must read faster than me, Brian!
It’s the way you make me feel – my darlings
link to youtube.com
Thanks, Ian!
I noticed the “won” one myself shortly after re-reading, but I copy-pasted the Gordon Wilson quote, so blame it on the Telegraph!
I want to cuddle Taranaich again – sexiest winger apart from his mum – kisses darlings.
@ Taranaich
Some article, Al. I know I have been swinging about on the “should we, shouldn’t we” argument, but, you make some powerful points.
The most persuasive, and it is one that has occurred to me, is that we are may well be doing the unionist job for them by appearing to assume we couldn’t do it right now. There is real danger in losing focus.
I think, though, that the main concern is that too many who voted no still don’t see the writing on the wall. The Scottish cringe has its roots in being brainwashed for 300+ years that we’re not good enough and someone/anyone else always knows better.
Anyway, good piece and should give pause for thought.
@ Paula Rose
Aww, you always get me with Dusty!
Then you hit with the Rezillos, mad punk rock, but, enjoyed that.
And so it begins …
Upgrade to Windows10 on the main PC has started. Only around 75 mins to wait to see if it will still let me post on Wings (that’s really all that matters!)
@Taranaich
Excellent,sir. One of the other things we ‘lost’ after Sep 18th was a date. The movement had a focal point and all the hedging bets baloney is causing some to get really frustrated. The movement grew and flourished when our positive views thro’ art and get togethers in church halls etc brought back community involvement and allowed us to believe we could do it. Agreed that the 45%(possibly more but won’t go into that here) haven’t gone away but could probably do with something like Yes Scotland to build around.The Yes registry may be an answer and if so, would it be an idea if Wingers could come together in a group, like RIC, WFI and Common Weal and have a representation on the proposed Yes Scotland substitute. There is such a level of intelligence amongst Wingers that we could do with being a part of this or similar. I know Yes Scotland may have had issues with Wings by association but that has gone. The gloves are now well and truly off and I for one am fed up with trying to be nice about this.
Looking forward to meeting up with everyone this Saturday. I may not be able to access the internet tonight but will be at Kelvingrove for 11am. See you there or at PQ.
Well said Jock!
See you all in the town tomorrow x
*Blushes bashfully*
Cheers Betty. Much as I disagree with many of Gordon Wilson’s conclusions, I do think he’s onto something in regards to the national identity thing: a lot of people want what the SNP have been studiously avoiding, which is a reason to be Scottish instead of British. The last census showed a vast, vast majority of Scots call themselves “Scottish and British” or “Scottish not British.”
I firmly believe that if we are much more resolute in defending our stances on things like the pound & the EU, then people who voted No will respect it. If we don’t, then they may think Westminster had a point, and that we don’t have enough faith in our policies. Of course we can’t expect the media to report us favourably, but why play their game? The Wee Blue Book, I think, was absolutely instrumental in showing that our positivity had rock-solid foundations.
Case in point: the shyness about nationalism. Obviously people are going to draw associations with other nationalisms – but if we don’t give our definition of nationalism (not necessarily “civic nationalism,” either), then our enemies will define it for us. They define nationalism as “an extreme form of patriotism marked by a feeling of superiority over other countries.” They get away with it.
My definition of nationalism is the same as Ernest Gellner: “a political principle that holds that the political and the national unit should be congruent.” Nothing about Scotland being better, nothing about the English being evil, nothing about supremacy or superiority – just the idea that a nation should be congruent with its politics.
@Jock Scot
” the 45%(possibly more but won’t go into that here) haven’t gone away but could probably do with something like Yes Scotland to build around”
National YES Registry
Advancing Scottish Independence by creating a campaigning collective from within the grass-roots.
“The idea is simple. Get all the existing pro-Indy grass-root activist groups, no matter how geographically disparate, linked together in a practical and mutually supportive campaigning network.”
Their crowdfunding appeal is at 49% with 40 hours to go.
I’ve made a contribution but that’s not an endorsement – you’ll have to make up your own minds..
link to indiegogo.com
I won’t make it to the protest/march/swally tomorrow as I have to attend a birthday party. Can’t get out of it cause it’s mine
.
If Kevins livestreaming any I’ll be trying to look in when I can. Have a good one folks.
@Gillian_Ruglonian
Nice gravatar, Gillian. Fairies at the bottom of the garden? You been hallucinating since Helensburgh?
Test
:))
A wee bit of Taj Mahal link to youtube.com
Taj Mahal Fishing Blues link to youtube.com
My MP’s Maiden Speech Tommy Sheppard link to youtube.com A Class Act.
X_Sticks,
Happy birthday and many more of them.
Well it might be a bit cloudy but the sun is out. Fingers crossed it stays that way for today’s March and demo. Looking forward to seeing everyone.
I,ve been shouting for a Forum of committed Indy Supporters since the 19th Sept,we were let down badly by the Corperate Yes Campain. Grassroots are for action , batter a Idea aboot for a short time & a plan takes shape WOS / Scot2.Scot have well astablished site so there should be plenty of co-operation as with other Indy sites.
Lets get this show out there.
Contrabution done, share the link People.Here & abroad to the Scots XPats.
@ X_Sticks
Many happy returns. Hope you have a great party today!
Another great article Taranaich
@ ronnie Anderson, 10:10am
Ronnie, can you shout louder from Santa Ponsin’ so they can hear you in that wee bit o’ Ayrshire between Stevenston and Ayr! No matter how loudly I shouted the same message locally, esp that we should still be out talking on the street, it didn’t penetrate the cloth ears.
Hope you are behavin’
– dinnae you be emigrating to Spain now, not unless you are joining the Wings Catalonia branch!
test … Windaes X
Ah weel, didnae wurk. Still same auld hauf oor wait ah reckon.
@Jim Thomson
Have you seen the stuff on Twitter in the last couple of days about Windows 10? Apparently everything you do online is shared-clicks, purchases-everything. More info here:
link to polygon.com
@Lollysmum
don’t believe everything that’s spouted on Twitter. Windows 10 is actually a really significant improvement over previous versions. Where they (Microsoft) have screwed up is the way they’ve left the default settings so that a lot of the privacy settings are effectively “open”. I never accept “express” installations, they are the spawn of the devil and allow suppliers to hide settings that are advantageous to them but not necessarily to the end user.
I’ve been around, and built, computers for over 35 years so I tend to get a wee bit over analytical when a new release of on operating system is dumped on the unsuspecting public (that’s an unfair comment though – Microsoft have been pretty fastidious with their pre-release testing).
This version has installed without problems on one laptop but I had to force a manual install on the desktop one I use for work and that has a few niggles that I’m gradually working through. It, the PC, does have a few non-standard features though and that seems to be the root of the problems.
I’ll deal with those tomorrow
Don’t worry about me, I generally win in the end (sometimes takes a while and I learn a lot in the process)
Daryl Hall & Cee Lo Green, ‘I Can’t Go For That’ –
link to youtube.com
Ray Lamontagne, ‘Crazy’ –
link to youtube.com
(too many hippies)
Party time dolls –
link to youtube.com
As a DJ, I haven’t played this in anger for quite a number of years.
But…
The swimming pool escapade after Wings Over Invergowrie, and the lost shoes on the bonnie, bonnie banks of Loch Lomond, somehow, makes me associate this song with Paula Rose – no offence!
link to youtube.com
Anyone –
link to youtube.com
Good choice, Paula Rose.
But…
Still doesn’t excuse you from the gossip implied by my previous post tonight.
Are you gonna come clean?
I’m dancing barefoot – but to transgress
link to youtube.com
Jim Thomson
Here’s another one I’d like your opinion on, if you’d be so kind.
Bullshit or not?
Turbo Encabulator
link to youtube.com
What Spitting Image thought of the Labour Party 25 years ago.
Red Tories? “So you still think you can control them Neil?”
link to youtube.com
Nightmares come true, Spitting Image on the nail again from the same year.
link to youtube.com
Cameron, you have way too much time on your hands, son.
I have to admit the use of the white lab coat is simply genius.
The guy also has trouble counting, he mention seven something-or-others but there are clearly only SIX shown in the diagram. It patently will never work with that seventh thingy missing.
Coypu are alive and well and living in the Fens.
If you know anyone with a Masters in a technical subject who can speak two Euro languages this might be a job for them
link to email.ietinfo.org
I’ve seen this advertised a few times over the past couple of years so, they’re either losing staff because it’s a crap job, or, they’re really trying to be very helpful in securing Euro-patents.
Jim Thomson
Way too much time.
This has probably been well covered already but I just wanted to say how good it was to join the March on Saturday. The atmosphere was amazing and the sun was shining on us which was great. Shame we got rained off for the BBC bias demo but you can’t have it all. It was great to see so many people in the Clutha. The pub looks great. And personally I especially loved receiving my Wings over Helensburgh badge with my name on it. I’m extremely chuffed with that so thank you.
So I wanted to run a random thought past you to see what you think. Sunday night in the Solid Rock cafe it goes from quiet to pretty darn busy really quickly. Turns out the regulars were just back from a BBQ in Loch Lomond. They clearly had a good time. So, I know we might not be having the best summer ever but, since we are such a sociable group, anyone think it might be a good idea for a wings BBQ event? If you think a BBQ is pushing our luck with the weather anyone got any other ideas?
Hi hevvabeccywoss.
Good to meet you on Saturday and install your badge upon your person!
Absolutely nothing to do with barbecues but…
Off-topic and off-site blethers have taken place since Pacific Quay on Saturday.
The outcome was that, if Edinburgh doesn’t come up with a Wings night by the end of September (avoiding ‘Hope Over Fear’ in George Square on the 19th), we’re looking into organising ‘Wings Over Invergowrie 3’, towards the end of October.
To give you a flavour of the last one in February, see here:-
link to youtube.com
Hi Brian Doothetoon, it was grand to meet you too my good man. I see i’ve missed some of the chat. It looks a lot drier indoors than it would do char grilling a sausage on a beach so I’m thinking Invergowrie is a better option lol. Thanks for the clip.
See ya soon
I want a Barbie!
Cheers, Chic!
I did another:
link to wildernessofpeace.wordpress.com
Am I being oversensitive? Because every time I encounter the term “radical” on the news/media (even though I don’t have a TV I do have a life outside my house – just shows you how intrusive the media is) it seems that the term “radicalisation” or “radicalise” is used in reference to new recruits for violent despotic regimes. So when the Herald says the referendum “radicalised thousands of Scots,” is it really oversensitive to worry about how the media have cultivated a very specific, othering culture around that term?
No, of course not. If that was true, surely we’d see the papers & BBC refer to the human beings dying at Calais in dehumanising terms like “migrants” and dutifully broadcast the Prime Minister describing them as a “swarm…”
Just a wee test of the new Microsoft browser “Edge” to see if that makes viewing posts any faster.
I’m about to blitz the PC and do a fresh install of Win 10 anyway, to see if that also improves the dire loading and shutdown times.
See you on the other side (it might take a while
)
So much for that idea … Nada.
Backing up a few more files and then – clean sweep and a few hours of frustration while I try to remember a kazillion passwords and logon IDs. Deep Joy.
@Paula Rose says: ‘I want a Barbie!’
Looks like it’s just you and me then. You any good on the hot coals?
Here’s the plan:
I’ll bring the whisky, you bring the music and your dancing shoes and if we remember food it’s a bonus but not essential hahaha
hevvabeccywoss honey – it’s a plan, lets do it!
Any glaswegians going to the left project’s meeting at renfield St stephens church on bath st tonight at 7pm?
No, well I’ll report back if anything good comes up!
Methinks attendance on Friday night to see the Graham Brown Band, would be an ideal starter for the the George Square rally next day.
link to youtube.com
Although I don’t actually think The The will be on at George Square…
This looks like it’s worth our support.
“British Army Veteran, Bill (71 years old), a staunch Scottish independence supporter and campaigner, has lived in a van for 15 years (7 years in current van) and many will know him online as “Boorach”, which we think superbly denotes his beard (as pictured).
The van has a bed, a microwave, and a wee cooking facility run on a generator.”
The van is a well-known and loved indy celebrity vehicle in the Highlands. And, Bill is alright as well!
and
“However, the rusty battle bus has done over 250,000 miles and is in need of serious repair and this comes at a time when Bill has, unfortunately, been diagnosed with lung cancer. This will involve treatment direct to the affected lung and then bouts of radiation treatment.
Bill currently survives on his Army Pension and recently lost his passenger seat companion “Chip” the terrier. However, he still has his YES Comrades and it is the indy faithful we are pitching to now. We want to raise funds to deliver a brand new battle bus to Bill – one that will be comfortable, reliable and well insulated – this van will be Bill’s new home during his cancer treatment, rehabilitation and beyond.”
link to crowdfunder.co.uk
It is, it is, it is, go on, go on, go on…
@Paula
When you said you wanted a ‘barbie’, I was shocked, ye Ken
@Brian
Agreed, it’s a good cause and you could do worse than being entertained by the Graham Brown band..thoroughly enjoyed dancing with Paula when they played Dundee..oh, the stroking that happened that day!
Ah Jock Scot – all a-tremble and thoughts of “I am not worthy”. Have seen the famous stage where Yew Tube first performed, I knelt and praised the Ninja Penguin.
@Paula
you say the sweetest things x
BDtt,
A cause worthy of a badge?
He’s a long time Winger.
@Jock Scot I see you made it home in one piece this week. No ransom required. Did your captors treat you well? It was a grand moment seeing you returned to your rightful place x
cearc
I reckon so. Defintely a worthy recipient
Hi Cearc.
I emailed for info re donating via PayPal.
This is the reply:-
———————————
“Hi Brian,
Thanks for your message. You can use
kevin.kane@talktalk.net
to send a donation through Paypal – thank you so much for the support. We will then update our facebook page to detail the current running total including your donation and any others (www.facebook.com/billsbattlebus)
Will amend the Crowdfunder shortly to include the Paypal address – only discovering now people need to register and having other issues with the site. Hope it’s not putting too many folk off!
Thank you again for your donation – we really appreciate it.
Best wishes
Claire (Bill’s Battle Bus Team)”
The email address was already further down in the updates but now they have put it at the top.
Dunno why crowdfunder want all your details to donate, seems a bit ott. Just as easy to do a direct paypal payment and saves the bother of finding a card to pay by card.
Boorach seems to be having a pretty bad time, what with losing his wee dug and being so poorly. Let’s hope they get enough to sort him out well.
Very positive meeting tonight, with a great turnout – a diverse age group with wide ranging opinions on the way forward for the indi movement and Scottish political society in general.
(The interior of the Griffin hasn’t changed much, since I was last in!)
Oh, a wee plug for this event – for anyone who’s at a loose end on Friday
facebook.com/events/518048555015377/
Evening, that’s me made it back from Saturdays adventures.. what a crowd and great to meet the ever-increasing friendly faces.
Yeah, I’d be up furra BBQ or next event of similar sort. Let’s keep the momentum going.. maybe even aim for (at least) one get-ra-gither a month.
So yeah, Edinburgh and/or Invergowrie next.. I’ll be there
Van Morrison, ‘Full Force Gale’ and ‘Bright Side Of The Road’ (Live)
link to youtube.com
Anyone about?
Just been watching the SNPs results come in on Twitter, nice work indeed
I did not know there was Council Elections going on. Thanks to Gillian Ruglonian I do now. Great result for the SNP and Scotland in general. I feel well cheered up now. Here is a wee bit of the ABYSSINIANS. link to youtube.com
Cool Michael, glad you’re cheery!
Labour are finished in Glasgow! When the job’s complete and we’ve prised the power from their grubby little mits, then we’ll truely deserve to run our own country!
(Just my humble wee opinion
)
@ Gillian Ruglonian I hope labour are finished over here in Edinburgh too. The sooner the Better.
@ Gillian Ruglonian Looking at the wee picture next to your name I thought I would leave you with a song before I head of to sleep. it is a good song a good band and some of the lyrics are by the poet Yeates.
Four of us went to Jolly’s in The Ferry last night for nosebags.
It was rather busy but we were able to grab the last available ‘table for 4’.
These were the table numbers…
link to sites.google.com
Hi Ronnie.
You’ll know. Why is it, that whenever I do a new post at Scot2Scot North East Scotland, I always get this message?
“Your post has been submitted and is pending approval by an admin.”
I do not have a TV Licence but Sex and Drugs and Rock n Roll is on BBC 2 at Midnight. I will be Watching. link to youtube.com
Cactus wrote:
“Evening, that’s me made it back from Saturdays adventures.. what a crowd and great to meet the ever-increasing friendly faces.”
Hi Cactus,
Nice meeting you all at the weekend.
FFS, i thought i was bad, i never got back to the Borders until Sunday night.
Take care pal and stay out of the main threads, too much bickering.
link to youtube.com
Here’s one of my all-time favourites:
George Baker Selection – Little Green Bag
link to youtube.com
Another favourite of mine:
Hook On A Feeling
link to youtube.com
And another:
I Fought The Law – The Clash
link to youtube.com
“Hook” ???
Hooked !!!
@Stoker (10.49) –
‘…too much bickering’
Aye. There is. And we all know who’s causing the vast bulk of it.
We know to expect trolls, and they’re usually identifiable within a short time. But some are very good at what they do and avoid being hoofed for anything obvious.
The best – by definition – will never even be suspected, let alone revealed.
Remember The Day Of The Jackal? We all remember what ‘The Jackal’ was up to, and how he met his end, but what happened after that? Did they ever find out who the dude was?
The ones who do show face (intentionally or not) have to be tackled, not tolerated.
In any event, hoots mon!
Exactly, Ian.
Here’s my tribute to Slabber
link to youtube.com
Now i’m getting a wee bit homesick – I want to be back on the west coast
link to youtube.com
Mon Ian, give us a choon
Anyway, fuck the trolls.
Here’s Larry Graham and his buddies doing their version of Maroon Five’s ‘Moves Like Jagger’.
link to youtube.com
Am away tae bed – take care folks – Here’s my babe:
Close All The Honkytonks by Caitlin – MMMMmmmmmmmm
link to youtube.com
X
This is a wee curio, but will be of particular interest to bass-players and/or anyone who’s into Sly & The Family Stone etc. Good stuff.
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Ian,
I hate that tune but the one you played at 12.19am (never heard that version before) likey very much.
Eff it, just going to stay up for a bit.
Ian,
Larry Graham (12.27am) reminds me, especially his actions, of another well known black dude. I can see him but can’t, for the life of me, remember his name. I’m cursing you right now. He’s an artist i love as well and can’t get it. I’m typing a load of sheet in the hope it will come to me. Wavy jet black hair and top class on the guitar and i think he done a duet with Chuck Berry???
(((((HELP)))))
OH, wee red face thingy, it is Chuck Berry, OOOooops, GLOW!
link to youtube.com
It’s actually kind of amazing how New Labour constantly portray themselves as the underdog when even in 2007, where they were the government in Westminster AND Holyrood, they were “fighting back” against the SNP:
link to wildernessofpeace.wordpress.com
It’s like playing with a small child who insists on starting a game over again because they kept missing the ball. “Wait, I wasn’t ready!” “Wait, I got something in my eye!” Wait, I have a stitch!” “Wait, I slipped on something!”
A wee change to the Quo since these posts are taking forever to appear:
Down The Dustpipe – Status Quo
link to youtube.com
Aye, thanks Taranaich, when i’m feeling homesick and doing my best via music to forget the west coast you pop up and remind me of Greenock and The Hole In The Wall. Used to go in there regular on a weekend and the group that played in there always played this for me…..and they were excellent at it:
link to youtube.com
Thanks for nothing mate!
Another oldie i loved as a kid:
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BTW, Ian, Rock’s not a troll, argumentative yes but not a troll.
The Jesus And Mary Chain – April Skies
link to youtube.com
Ocean Colour Scene – Better Day
link to youtube.com
Goodnight, folks, all the very best to each and every one of you.
OH, I’m as happy as a pig in shite!
This tune on video was unavailable for a while, don’t know why, but i’ve just been informed of its existence again.
Just watch these two super-groups work together and i defy anyone to show me a video of any two groups doing it better.
I’m away to bed a very happy chappy and will leave you with this:
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Cheers for your 1049’er Stoker.
Am enjoying and learning from the main threads as always, never let one go by. It’s tasty bite-sized articles one at a time (political education here is like dining tapas-style.)
When catching up, I tend to go to the end of threads first (back to just before midnightish) and work forwards from there. That’s when the comments BTL (Below The Line) get juicy and real!
Also handy reading and finding out live, if some local or worldly event has happened, or even occurred
Have a braw Saturday everybuddy, go’an do something good today for Scotland and yerself.. ye’s both deserve it.
@ Cactus.
Sorry about that, should have been more clearer in my 1049er.
I was referring more to the main comment thread at the time and how it had descended into pointless petty bickering. I was merely attempting (badly) to offer a heads-up on it.
Yes, you sure can learn a lot from the threads but i find it extremely taxing when they descend to that level, especially when it’s between folk who ultimately believe in the same goal and who are supposed to be on the same team.
There’s nothing wrong with having our differences, in fact it’s healthy but we don’t need to keep fueling those fires and we certainly shouldn’t be derailing topics. If certain folks want to scrap they should take it outside, ie; Off topic and i’ll volunteer to hold the coats.
Nevertheless, i have never missed an article or Cairns Toon since joining WOS and i never will, they’re far too valuable.
@Stoker –
re ‘Rock’, I hope you’re right. I truly do. It would help if the man (?) would show us his brighter, lighter side, and stop issuing lists of imagined enemies.
In any event, thanks for the tunes you’re putting up here, and the general good, healing vibes you’re generating.
One for Stu
link to youtube.com
Hi Jock.
Check out this video – sobering…
link to youtube.com
Very true Brian..can’t help wondering what Lennon would have thought of Bush jnr and Trump..what an album that would be.
@ Ian (9.55pm).
Thanks, i enjoy music, life would certainly be a lot duller without it and when it comes to music i sometimes wonder if my brain is just one large bag of neurological Liquorice Allsorts.
A variety of flavours with a wee preference for the pink & blues.
I’ve also just seen this on the main thread and don’t know whether to metaphorically blaw thur heeds aff for putting that tune in ma heed or ????? I think i’ll just say MAGNIFICO!
Their best yet!
I’ll know it off-by-heart by this time tomorrow
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Yew Choob certainly makes a forcefull point, Stoker.
Giving you a heads-up this time, I’m not sure if many folk will enjoy this particular Allsort. Tbh, I’m not sure how to describe it as it looks as if someone has been sitting on the bag.
This one going out to Paula. Hope you’re not stroking yourself to the point of nervous exhaustion.
Shockabilly – Your Good Girl’s Gonna Go Bad
link to youtube.com
In other news, David Cameron has been urged to reign in the leader of the Scottish Separatists, as the threat posed to Great British traditions by the most dangerous woman in Britain, spreads panic and confusion amongst ordinary English voters.
link to thepoke.co.uk
@Stoker
Sorry and HaHa all at the same time..your comment made me smile so much it was sore
@Cameron
Don’t think Ninja Penguin was going for the ‘enjoyment’ factor and agree it will be interesting to see/read any reaction..if I’m not invited back to a night-oot, I’ll understand. Loved the squashed sweeties image.
On a more serious note..if anyone can get in contact with TJenny, can they let her know that I was wanting to communicate quite urgently
Cheers
Cheers Jock and apologies to Ninja Penguin for the incorrect credit.
In other news, that Partick mascot has made my year and that Ipswich under 14s goal was a cracker, though I think the winger was a couple of yards off-side when the final pass was made. Still astonishing though.
Paula Rose!!
Where ur ye??
450k comment slot is up for grabs, right now…
This is my feeble, tired lob-in for the 450,000th comment.
Half-hearted as it is, a full-hearted nicht-nicht tae ane an’ aw the fellow travellers.
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Good morning everyone
I’m posting this for no other reason than it was on my Facebook timeline and it made me smile. Thought it might make someone else smile too. Have a good Monday people
m.youtube.com/?gl=GB&hl=en-GB#/watch?v=CQTq88Ie5sU
@Jock Scot
Hi Jock – been away at Belladrum over the weekend, but I’ve passed on your request for TJenny to get in touch. She hadn’t seen the post.
@Tartan Pigsy
Enjoyed that wee catch up at Bella. Look forward to you coming to one of the Wings social nights out!
Jock Scott – Hi, I’m intrigued (wee quizzicalfacedthingy).
Ian Brotherhood did have my email address, and X-Sticks has my phone number.
I await contact with bated breath.
TJenny
Hi there, long time no see. I’m not sure if Tam is that fussed about another Edinburgh bash but what about you? I’m happy to organise another, if you think folk will come. Let me know in OT.
Doh, there was me thinking I was on main thread.