Wings Over Scotland

We got beaten by Peru again. I blame Sturgeon and Salmond for giving us false hopes. We are clearly too small to do anything in this world.

Natch, its not that Scotland is too wee, its just that we’re too … well, something impossible to define – cuckolded?

bobajock says:
30 May, 2018 at 10:00 am
Natch, its not that Scotland is too wee, its just that we’re too … well, something impossible to define – cuckolded?

Is a horse cuckolded?

We are broken in, like a wild mustang made safe to ride. It isn’t easy to rediscover our free running wildness and untamed confidence, but hurdling the big fence and securing our freedom is the first step in the process.

Some of us more than others need reassurance that it’s ok to rebel against our conditioning.

No vote for the act of Union; in fact there was rioting in the streets against it’s conception.

Supporters of said Union think it’s existence is set in stone and should never be challenged no matter how circumstances can change and make it detrimental for Scotland to remain.

Scotland it seems has never been a partner in a Union; rather a colony, taken by subterfuge, violence and against the true wishes of it’s people at that time.

The EU was not set in stone either and the English,Welsh and Northern Irish have chosen the path of leaving that particular Union, which is their people’s choice to make.

Scotland chose a different path yet is to be dragged out of the EU against the wishes of it’s people, proof if ever was needed that Scotland does not exist as an equal member country of a Union but one that they think has been assimilated as part of their Country, England.

We need Independence as soon as possible because time is running out as they, Westminster, will grind away at our parliament’s powers, maybe even the parliament itself until we truely lose our identity as a separate nation and we will.

Not going off topic, but those tunnels linking the Faroe Islands reminded me of Channel 4’s Building Giants on a night or two ago… 19 miles of tunnelling for a new Underground beneath Copenhagen. Cost was 2.5 billion Euros if I remember correctly, but that sounds like decent value I thought…

link to channel4.com

What struck me was the technology however… Pretty awesome. Maybe we don’t need a bridge to Ireland but a tunnel.

It kinda reminded me about a programme I saw years ago about Scotland’s Hydro Electric infrastructure and the Aluminium smelter at Kinlochleven. I can’t remember the details all these years later, but there were World Records all over the place for the time…

Independence will give us more Renewable Energy projects, and infrastructure like Queensferry Crossing, and access to European support and development funding. Unionism gave us an Edinburgh Trams Fiasco, a Scottish Parliament fiasco, PFI, and more of the psychotic guilt-free plundering of our native resources which gets sold to us as “sharing”.

We are big enough, rich enough and smart enough to join the family of countries in this world and we should be doing it for ourselves.

Ruth’s sudden play for soft Brexit is interesting. May won’t listen to her regarding Scotland, a place I am sure barely figures in her thinking, so I wonder if this is Ruthie making a play for the hearts and minds of Middle England? Is this her counter to the Moog’s play for the top job and a hard Brexit?

Of course, it may just be an attempt to sound more reasonable in Scotland given the polls indicate we are getting more and more anti-Brexit. There are no immediate elections but perhaps it is a case of getting her excuses in early for the crap coming our way as Brexit kicks in. “It wissnae me, I was pure against it so I was”.

Folks I know I’m like a stuck record but listen to this. 10 mins of prof steve keen talking about why Italy looks to be exiting the euro and rebooting it’s own currency..
link to patreon.com

One thing that struck me that was said in this film and I think its the key to independence: “Scottish people have the right to think for themselves”.

Our greatest problem and hurdle to independence is people aren’t thinking for themselves. The reason being is that we don’t have an open media, both tv and press are continuously forcing their opinions on us from just one perspective, the British Nationalist agenda.

With the internet, that is changing. The Faroese claim they have the best broadband coverage worldwide. The people in Faroes do have an astonishingly good coverage at every point of their nation, including at sea. It means that they are well connected.

Thanks to Scottish government and community initiatives, broadband in Scotland is getting better. This means that people have instant information at their fingertips. They can check on what their politicians are asking them to believe and can make their own minds up.

3 newspapers and 6? TV stations (only one run by THEIR government) means that people get their news from different sources. In Scotland, all the newspapers (except one, The National)and all of the TV are currently controlled by British Nationalist or state run organisations and none of them give neutral unbiased news from which people could form their own opinions.

The internet is changinging that rapidly, but still too many are being drip fed opinions instead of news and therefore aren’t at a position to form their own opinion as they don’t get a balanced view that they can use to form one. OK, many are to busy or too lazy, too technologically unaware or whatever to go looking for unbiased news.

One thing that must happen when independence is a reality is making broadcasting/press unable to print propaganda without redress. New Scottish laws controlling media must prevent this happening in iScotland or else we will remain in the current situation where bias and big money control our news where the majority are being controlled by the elite to accept their opinions of how things are.

CURRENCY
There are two currencies of equal value in the Faroe Islands: the Faroese króna and the Danish krone. While the Faroese government prints its own bank notes, only Danish coins are used. Danish notes are equally acceptable as Faroese notes throughout the country.

The series of banknotes comprise five denominations: 50 kroner, 100 kroner, 200 kroner, 500 kroner and 1000 kroner. The coin (only Danish) series comprises six denominations: 50 øre (cents), and 1, 2, 5, 10 and 20 kroner.

There may be a few places in the major towns that accept foreign currency, but this is more likely the exception than the rule, and, unsurprisingly, the exchange rate is rarely favourable. Exchange rates for the Faroese (Danish) króna as of May 2016 are roughly: DKK 100 = €13.4 / £10.6 / $15.6.

Source :

link to visitfaroeislands.com

That was a fantastic video. It’s a pity so many will not watch it.
It’s infuriating to think there are still people who can’t grasp what we have and what we could improve on and exploit to Scotland’s own benefit and be looked on as a world leader in Sustainable energy.

I’d probably make sure the Greens were in charge of a good portion of that in any future Scottish Government.

Excellent.

Scotland has had the confidence beaten out of it, and the people have been brainwashed into actually believing that they and their own country is sh**e. It’s why the UKGov will not devolve broadcasting, or immigration, or tax etc etc.

Scotland is more than capable of thriving as an independent country right now and in the future. The only way to do that is through independence, devolution is just flogging a dead horse. The people, like Gordon Brown and his ridiculous ‘devo max’ who sold Scotland out in 2014, should be utterly ashamed of themselves.

We were watching some children’s BBC Alba last night for old times sake, and saw that BBC Alba was scrapped in February of this year. People, you are paying to be brainwashed by the UK state, via the Britnat TV.

The new people moving to Scotland need to know what the Scottish parliament is not allowed to do, because they have no idea about devolution light. The Scotgov surely waves a magic wand, because it sure as hell is constrained hugely by London Westminster government, in what they are allowed, yes, allowed to do, and how they can take Scotland into the 21st century.

It’s tragic and will be even more so with Brexit looming.

Run for your life Scotland!

I love the Faroes. Very interesting place to visit politically and culturally and some absolutely end of the world scenery. And after you’ve driven through those tunnels and come back to Scotland our infrastructure seems so lame in comparison.

Where’s the tunnel to Bute? To Mull? Between Shetland, Yell and Unst? Where’s the interconnector to Orkney, where’s the Kirkcaldy-Leith interconnector, why isn’t there a roundabout under the Clyde connecting Gourock, Kilcreggan and Dunoon?

Per head, Scotland is probably the wealthiest country in the world (apart perhaps from a few tiny tax havens).

Unfortunately its wealth is being systematically stolen by its greedy neighbour to the south.

Can we not put these facts on billboards or something?

re: kat Hamilton@10am

Good comment and it’s not just other nations that have self belief. I don’t recall hearing people in N.E. England ever really slag off their own area, or people or anything like that. Always a sense of pride, whether warranted or not.

Scotland was brainwashed, portrayed as useless and dysfunctional to the outside world by the Britnats and the various UKgov’s and that’s why they absolutely cannot abide Nicola Sturgeon travelling abroad to talk to other countries.

The Britnats really are peeved that Scotland is viewed positively on the international stage!

Well tough, the Britnats kept Scotland poor and begging for far too long, and is still siphoning away her revenues and abundant resources. That is not sustainable.

Independence is the only way to repair the damage because unlike the Faroes, devolution is minimal in Scotland, most powers are reserved to London, and the Westminster government, not to mention the power grab.

“The strength of any country is its people, obviously”: the best quote in the film.

The Faroes voted for independence – but got home rule.

From the economist: ” The Danish government rejected the referendum and dissolved the islands’ parliament”.

Just heard the Ruth Davidson show on Politics Scotland

The Danish embassy in London has a Faroe islands ‘legation’ which issues visas.
Faroe islands has bilateral agreements regarding fishing with the likes of Russia.
We have to remember we are a ‘united kingdom’ not a representative democracy.

Nicola Sturgeon being trolled by every mental in Yoonworld today
What’s a good laugh is they all claim to have read the Growth commission report then proceed to misquote it using all the same words as each other

Badly spelled of course (It’s the knuckles)(difficulty with the knuckles) and the ink from the Loyal tattoos seeping into their blood streams causing that zombie infection which leads them to hate everybody especially (They Muslamics)

@scottieDog
The euro was a good concept but poor implementation. What the EU needed was an umbrella currency, but for members to keep their sovereign currencies as well. There would have been no reason for the UK not to “join” in that case, as it would still have had the GBP. It would have avoided Greexe, Italy, Spain and Ireland’s problems, as they would have just been able to adapt the rate against the euro, issuing their own currency to do so. Ho hum.

As for the GC report I think it’s truly wonderful while disagreeing with much of it. It’s got the Unionists in a tail-spin, they don’t know whether to praise or condemn it, while Sturgeon for the SNP just says “It’s recommendations, not policy”.

It honestly could not have been done better.

O?T
My God, just had a look at the BBC HYS on article about Nicola and growth report – it’s a hatefest!!

English hating the Scots will no doubt help our Indy cause – they want us away!

Just like the decades of “its all the EU/foreigners fault we’re so fucking useless” which the English have had rammed down their throats, they’ve had even longer of “whinging scotch subsidy junkies/alkies” in the papers.

If the entire “free” press keeps saying the same things for decades then its hardly surprising when people believe it.

The average Englishman thinks of a Scot much the same way a Texan thinks about Muslims – we’re “scum”.

Time people got it into their heads – the English “hate” the Scots far more than vice versa because the English “hate” everyone who isn’t the same as them.

Artyhetty says:

The Britnats really are peeved that Scotland is viewed positively on the international stage!

Definitely. And that has to be seen in the context that the UK is seen by most of the world as an unreformed imperialist. In fact, to many, it must seem a pariah.

And add to that, the UK is currently looking like a complete basket case!

BBC strangely interested in Nicola Sturgeon tweets, of course this was just to allow the BritNat comment fest below the line. They think the SNP and independence is dead, good luck with that one.

They were of course not interested in the Ruth Davidson tweet that was exposed as a lie. But of course she was on her way to the BBC in the encounter, was that to meet up with her old colleagues?

I said, I think on Friday, that by the end of the following week the growth commission report would we claimed to be a failure by the MSM. They beat my estimate by two days.

@Robert Peffers

link to en.wikipedia.org

link to independent.co.uk

Who cares about the history of the Country of the Bank of England, compared with the power of #MMT in an Independent Scotland with our own currency?

RBS will close it’s branches and Thersa May can’t interfere because it’s a commercial decision….Big fat lie!

The *British taxpayer* owns over 70% of that bank and the government is supposed to serve the people who pay those taxes, that’s us

Now the reason Theresa May *won’t* interfere is because the Tories instructed RBS to close its branches in Scotland first as usual (like the poll tax remember) in the hope of RBS stock rising before the sell off of the Bank which means money (much less than we paid) goes back in to the English treasury where it will be swallowed up never to be seen or heard from again

So this is where the interesting bit comes in along with Theresa May’s big fat lie, You’ll all remember when the Brexit vote was won by the right wing lunatic English voters using the subterfuge of the *UK wide vote scam* which turned out to be a population head count and not as in the EU all nations votes are counted irrespective of population (that’s why we got the monkey England voted for)
The first thing that happened was the car makers in England went apeshit and threatened to quit the sunny uplands of the English cricket pitches Theresa May jumped into her starship ran all around the England countryside assuring them of a special deal please don’t go I’ll fix it, she promised

Now I don’t know much but I do know car makers are a commercial business, she intervened in that just fine and dandy did she not because guess what.. the car makers are located in England

But when it comes to Scotland ….not so much eh

Our great Scottish British Nationalist media won’t report the truths of these matters …..we have to before it’s too late

O/T

“Revealed: industrial-scale beef farming comes to the UK”

Where UK = England

“the Guardian and the Bureau has identified nearly a dozen operating across England, including at sites in Kent, Northamptonshire, Suffolk, Norfolk, Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire.”

link to archive.is

Now why would Tories want to hold Agriculture Powers as part of the EU Withdraw Bill “Power Grab” again??

Tory voting landowners making a profit in food short Brexit Britain.

@Smallaxe

Thanks for the tip. I’ll phone them up to drive me to Dumfries from Glasgow. Oops, might forget to wait in!

Albert Herring,

That’s the way to do it!
🙂

There’s been talk for a few years about relaxing the SGP but no action. The 3% is nonsense, it restricts EU growth and lets in China – and the US. And as for the 60% the only countries that met it were the new states who practically by definition would have low levels of debt to GDP. Even Germany from memory was over the 60%, though not by much.

In fact if Scotland had managed to get the share of debt as £50 billion according to then SNP calculations rather than the straight per capita share, we’d have been able to borrow extensively to meet the 60% limit (which is more strictly “warned” in the eurozone only anyway), which would mean we could have increased our debt by £40 billion, something not totally unnoticed by the likes of NIESR though they hurried over that part and didn’t go into detail.

Carney doesn’t like the euro which flavours his comments about a formal currency union. Yet it survives to this day.

I’d not want to join the eurozone until it sorts its stagnation fankle – and uses its issuance in a more sensible and sharing way. In fact I’d prefer the EFTA route, but hey, it and even neoliberalonics won’t stop me voting YES!

@Robert Peffers “Until a majority of the people of Scotland realise ..”

Sure, but if someone is talking about something else of interest, like currency and its issuance, “now is not the time” to criticise them because you don’t like the way you think they put some minor detail nothing to do with the actual subject itself, it interrupts debate about totally different matters.

Like currency for an iScotland.

@ Robert Peffers “Yet Scots have been leaving Scotland since the Union and many have never again set foot in Scotland.”

Yes, but the counter to that is that Scots have left Scotland, gone to places and learnt loads of stuff, and with Independence may well come back and give us all the benefit of what they’ve learnt. New ideas, new methods, new ways of thinking. And with Independence Scotland might be able to actually use the high talent that up till now has HAD to go abroad to put it to good use. And create high level jobs, high wage jobs, rather than our average wage being lower than our neighbour’s average wage. HQ jobs as well, rather than a trip up the M6 by the “regional manager for Scotland”.

BBC Parliament allowing the PM of a mighty nation a whole programme to talk of Brexit -even mentioning about uk citizens applying for EU passports. Who is this mighty nation? Luxembourg. With a population smaller than Edinburgh. Yip too wee, too small….

Yes they are branded Scottish notes Robert and created by Scottish banks but have to be backed by ‘non credit risk assets’. 60% of these are Bank of England notes and the rest typically U.K. government bonds.
New bank notes are regulated by the law of seniorage where the proceeds of the purchase of the Bank note for it’s face value goes to the U.K. treasury. So the creation of 60% of Scottish and Irish notes creates that money for the treasury. This is a source of govt revenue which has declined over the years due to cash being issued.

Iim sorry, I didn’t write the bank charter act. It’s no my fault.

@Robert Peffers
Depends where you are. If you’re anywhere in a tourist area you’ll get few BoE fivers, but a fair few tenners and a lot of twenties, and thank God for that, it means the English have been here for their customary invasion already, and will hopefully come back and spend wads more loot enjoy themselves greatly in our beautiful scenery and with our friendly people, and enjoy that, our hills and glens, our beaches and lochs and of course, superb food and drink includng many craft beers and gins and whiskies, our freindly banter about, errr, football (which we always lose unfortunately). Ho hum.

We need to be free of the shackles of London hegemony. Look how confident the Faroese are.
It’s brilliant.
As was acknowledged in the film, scotland is hugely energy rich – there aren’t many nations which can heat and power themselves. We can.
Money moves resources. A country’s govt should be able to issue the volume of currency it needs to move all the resources it needs and provide everyone with a job who wants one.

Italy is learning the hard way.

@yesindyref2 says: 30 May, 2018 at 6:45 pm:

” … Who cares about the history of the Country of the Bank of England, compared with the power of #MMT in an Independent Scotland with our own currency?”

Well not you for one. Then there is the closed mind syndrome that seems to pervade everything you post here on Wings.

Just look at your efforts, above, where you say this, ” … Who cares about the history of the Country of the Bank of England” (my bold).

There’s the closed mind at work – I’ve obviously wasted my time telling you the truth – The bank of England doesn’t legally have a country and it never has had a country. It was a private company from it’s inception until it was nationalised by a kingdom, (and a two partner united kingdom at that).

So it first belonged to its private shareholders, represented by the Governor and Company of the Bank of England. Then it was Nationalised by the, “United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland”, that, while containing three countries and a part of another country, comprises a bipartite united kingdom.

The B of E was called the Bank of England because the Kingdom of England’s parliament banked with it and not because the country of England owned it.

All of which knocks your economic theory into the proverbial cocked hat. I assume, of course, you actually can distinguish between what is a theory and that is fact?

While I’m talking facts you are talking theories:-

” Theory – a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained. “

Theories may indeed, (if proven), become fact, but until proven they remain just theories.

Now the thing is that I’ve pointed out the theories you quote to justify your views have made serious errors and the main one is that the Bank of England belongs to , “A country”. It then goes on to theorise on that premise.

Hence my description of it as jargon and gobbledegook.

@ScottieDog says: 30 May, 2018 at 7:40 pm:

“Struggling to see where I ever said the U.K. was a country. ““As it happens I just did so in the comment I made just before reading this one I’m replying to now.

“You’re inventing arguments now.”

Nope it is there black upon white and you even spelled country with an upper case initial letter.

” … I was referring to the function of the Bank of England”

Which is actually neither here nor their. The truth being that the Bank of England has never belonged to either the country or the kingdom of England.

” … but rant away if it makes you happy.”

I’m neither happy or unhappy or ranting – I’m just stating the absolute truth – nothing more and nothing less.

I’m not even expounding a theory.

The unvarnished truth is that the B of E was a private company until it was nationalised by the United Kingdom Government of which there are only two kingdoms as partners.

It is named The United Kingdom for the very good reason that is what it is. No matter that it does not operate as a united kingdom of two equally sovereign partners. The actual legal position remains that it is a united Kingdom with two kingdoms as the partners. When one partner calls quits the union is over as is the united kingdom.

The arrogance of the Tories shows no limits.

They argue about whether they should have some sort of customs agreement, or should it be the Swiss model, or true blue fairies at the bottom of their f’ing garden.

When will they come to accept they don’t decide the details of the future EU relationship?

The EU will offer a solution and the UK will accept or leave with nothing other than a bloody great bill.

Like so many things, it’s the media at fault for allowing the Tories to continue with this charade. Where have all the investigative, enquiring, and ground breaking journalists gone?

Ooops, wrong moniker might not get through, sorry if repost.

@Dr Jim
Good discussion actually, and Sturgeon’s tweets today certainly helped the focus. Shafi says what he wants, but then that’s good too, this debate SHOULD be going on all over Scotland, and the more the merrier.

@Robert Peffers (quoting me) “the Country of the Bank of England”

See there you go again, not reading what’s there, only what you want to be there so you can call people dumb, stupid, closed minded, or fake, which is your constant agenda. That’s a joke, the Bank of England is NOT a country. See – you read it wrong, or interpreted it your own wat, deliberately or accidentally. I wasn’t talking about the country the Bank of England was in, I was talking about it as though it IS a country. D’ya get it now? Ha ha!

@ScottieDog
Well, I think the Euro will survive, but have to change to do so (the eurozone AND the so-called ECB).

Meanwhile I’m taking every opporunity to mention MMT, hoping more and more people will get interested enough to look it up. The thing is this in my opinion, now we have the backstop of the Growth Commission report which is very conservative in its estimates as even supporters are saying, in other words being very cautious, we ourselves can do what we want without scaring the punters, whereas before perhaps we had to be more cautious, well, some of us at least 😎

Seen lots of comments online that since the growth commission used GERS in their document it was now proven to be accurate. What nonsense, they used GERS because it is the only thing available, there is no accurate figures regarding Scotland’s fiscal state, there are only estimates.

If they did not use GERS, then what would they use. One made up set of figures is no more accurate than another. And this comment regarding using GERS was repeated by a respected Herald columnist, very poor.

@jfngw
Which one? I don’t keep up with the H at the moment, and haven’t posted there for nearly 3 weeks. Might do in future though at some important stage 🙂

The Faroes, my kind of country… which is why I feel sad for Scotland, a country hobbled by too many people who lack confidence and Westminster. We owe it to past and future generations to get out of the shackles.

The only people who use real figures when it comes to money are us because our money is not infinite whereas governments move one column to the left another to the right double down on the figure they first thought of then project out of their imagination another number that suits their purposes and Bazinga it becomes monetery policy and it was a fact all along us morons just didnae understand it but they find a hundred *experts* to swear it’s correct

The main thing is we pay for whatever is missing from our finite money and the world keeps revolving and the rich stay that way

Such is the purpose of our lives….to serve and feed the whale

Probably the best thing “the” Gubmint could do for the economy is have a secret session, an emergency bill, straight to the Lords and back and for and back and for and back, double quick time, between a swift half and a half at the bar, privy council waiting in the corridor, a courier straight to Buck House (probably a bit over the top to have her maj waiting in the member’s dining room), and then in the morning announce that all personal overdrafts, all loans except perhaps mortgages though maybe even including them, all credit cards, and all other personal debt, was hereby immediately cancelled and non-repayable.

I recommend this Bill to the House, wherever and whichever it is.

Scottish energy production cheap. England energy production dear. But Scots share the cost!!! and the Hinkley Point nuclear plants will add £ billions to the monthly bill

link to caltonjock.com

Quite an interesting initial analysis from FoAI

link to fraserofallander.org

Not surprisingly more professional in its approach than some of the wild “analysis” with the emphasis on the first syllable, from the rabid Unionist amateurs. Which of course is another benefit, whether deliberate or accidental, of the report itself, as some of those others embrace blog hara-kiri in their determination to do down Indy and anything associated with it.

Apologies to Nana / Smallaxe if they’ve already posted the link, I’ve had to skim postings the last few days.

Oh, and another one on a different topic:

“The survey results continue to show a recovery in optimism and activity in the UK Continental Shelf. 41% of businesses are now working at or above optimum levels and levels of optimism are at their highest since 2013. For the first time in four years, we are also seeing positive figures for exploration, suggesting an opening up of the pipeline for future work. Companies continue to shed jobs, albeit the pace of decline has eased, whilst there are positive signs for new investment.” Full pdf available here:

link to sbs.strath.ac.uk

Strikes me by the way that if the iSG don’t use oil revenue as part of the daily finances, the best plan, the oil fund can reinvest in the industry with the revenues, as well I guess as sustainables, CCS and even water.

Und finally don’t think anyone posted this one before, from a NO voter last ref who I can’t just make out, possibly on the cusp:

link to newstatesman.com

Robertknight, I think you mean BRITISH NATIONALISTS – as in the Conservative and Unionist Party the Labour Party in Scotland ,the BNP ,the EDL and the flute tooters.

The latest entertainment from Jock Scott, while we wait for Nana’s links.

link to youtube.com

link to indyref2.scot

link to thenational.scot

link to itisintruthnotforglory.wordpress.com

We Need To Talk About Scotland’s Media
See here for info
link to facebook.com

The Tommy Robinson case shows ‘alt-right’ tactics are here in the UK
link to archive.is

link to blogs.lse.ac.uk

Brexit: choose your fantasies
link to eureferendum.com

EU Said to Mull Tougher Warning on No-Deal Brexit If Talks Stall
link to archive.is

Dorothy Devine says:

Ruth Davidson has been named as one of the ‘most influential Woman ‘

Astonishing! Upon what, and where, has she exercised any influence?

Not much in Holyrood that I can think if. Just a moaning and shouty non contributor.

Or, at her party HQ in London? Name chance, she’s still Scottish after all.

What she did do, right enough, is influence some gullible BritNats in Scotland. She garnered votes by disassociating herself from her own party’s policies and standing as The Davidson Just Say No Party.

So deceitful is the new influential.

Good morning, Nana.

Thank you for your links. Kettle’s on!
🙂

Good morning Nana. Great links as usual.
Thank you.

Dorothy Devine,

Come and join us, Dorothy;
link to palestinecampaign.org
Everybody’s welcome.
🙂

Growth Commission trick: they use 21/22 as the starting year for analysis – that way they get to bank the economic benefits of fiscal prudence while blaming the pain of it all on Westminster – genius, h/t @AndrewWilson”

This is the problem with kev. He can’t differentiate macro with micro.

Mornin’ Nana

Back from my travels. Just catching up. Fine vid ATL and a fair old selection of links to get on with. 🙂

@ Socrates MacSporran
How about, Elizabeth, by the Sovereign will of the People of Scotland, Queen of Scots.
A timely reminder to the Queen and perhaps help educate our people just who holds the power. It’s not Queen and its not Westminster.

America’s stooge Ukrain does it again…you simply cant trust those scheming, dishonest Russians! Johnsons size 10s in mouth once again?
Out of the Western ‘alliance’ always something risible.

@Gfaetheblock says: 30 May, 2018 at 9:40 pm:

Also, on a personal note, that is a large amount of cash to be walking about with, I would suggest using a debit card, for security reasons.”

I do pay large bills, (electricity/gas, etc. on-line.
Anyway I didn’t mention any actual totals.

Secondly it is rather hard to avoid when you draw your retirement pension and combined disabilities benefits from the Post office.

Plus the fact that I can’t really walk about due to disability so all cash transactions are grouped in a fairly restricted area. By the time I’ve done the 2 weeks shopping there isn’t usually very much left.

So it is usually out of one shop, load buggy into van, go to next stop, unload buggy and repeat. So no real walking, or buggying, around.

My P.O., Bank, supermarket, chemist, frozen food shop, et al are all in a very tight area. If I’m going to be carrying a larger sum than usual it is draw last of all. So I’m only carrying it from either the bank or Post Office to the van and driving home.

Ah’m no daft ye ken. ;-))

I must admit, this “Growth Report” has left me feeling a bit let down.

Has anybody got anything good to say about it so I can pass on that message???

The Herald is running with:

Nationalist agitator Sean Clerkin quits independence movement over Growth report ‘betrayal’

link to heraldscotland.com

@Yesindref2 at 11:17pm

I didn’t read the H either but was reading a MacW twitter feed (I’m not on twitter so can’t follow him).

@Dr Jim says: 30 May, 2018 at 10:11 pm:

” … does this mean they’ll get two Britnats and an *expert* to rubbish it after they show a tweet from Nicola Sturgeon *defending* it”

Well spotter Dr Jim, only the BBC and SMSM could dream up and use the term, “Defending”, to apply to Nicola’s tweet. Their tactics become more obvious by the day. There is nothing requiring defence and there was no attempt to defend the matter. I wonder what congenital idiot dreamt that one up.

There are now very encouraging signs of sheer desperation in all that the Westminster Propaganda Wing now have to offer. Few Scots, even at the subliminal level, can fail to feel that desperation oozing out of all SMSM outpourings. Which outpourings get more like a sewerage outflow every day.

Arse moving keeps you alive: Not banning Tony the Tiger

The eating of all food, any food will make you fat if you don’t move your Arse so Jamie idiot fat Oliver telling people to not eat stuff that makes you fat by telling you to eat the stuff he eats that makes you just as fat as him is mentalness of the highest order, and this guy’s desperation to make himself even more stupidly famous than he already is and for folk to fall for this shit is more mind numbingly stupid that actually being fat

Not moving the Arse is what makes you fat,(unless there’s an underlying medical problem) it’s not rocket science for God sake, people used to eat pounds of full fat butter and cheese and never got fat, WHY? because no buses no taxis walked to school ran roon the playground grew up went to work and actually worked

I’m 69 years old and when I was growing up there was one fat man in my street that’s how out of place it looked
Anyone can check old photgraphs from any western city in the world around fifty years ago and fat people were few and far between, we all remember our dads and grand dads they were skinny for the most part

So when people say they’re very busy but they’re going from place to place in taxis and cars munching stuff while they go then they’re not busy, that’s a sedentary lifestyle and that’s the fat that kills you

Sorry folks for ranting but this guy keeps involving himself with our politicians and for some unknown reason they feel as if it’s politically correct to listen to him, and you know what’s worse most of the politicians he talks to are skinnier than him

Jamie Oliver and hypocrisy have now surpassed Piers Morgan on the self aggrandisement idiot scale

“Kevin Hague
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this is quite something (see thread) @afneil @alexmassie @euanmccolm @JournoStephen @JohnRentoul @BBCDouglasF @BBCJohnBeattie @FraserNelson”
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A cry for help………lol

Ian Foulds – It’s Dumbarton but Dunbartonshire (don’t know why)

Sorry folks I’m ranting again:

England, a country with some of the worst public services in the western world, a country since Brexit loaded with hate crime and racism worse that it was before which was bad enough, a country with an immigration policy that says they welcome immigrants then shoves them into sub standard shit holes in a collective mass then blames them when they get angry about living in sub standard shit holes

England, where half my family live who believe their media when they tell them foreigners are all out to get them and that life is more wonderfull where they are because the Germans are bad the French are bad the Russians are bad blah blah blah

England, a country that goes on holiday to places like Spain or France and don’t seem to notice they’re disliked intensely by the people who live there because the policies of their English government are offensive to every reasonable thinking normal person but them and creates an air of superiority in the English population so much so it emerges as total arrogance

England, a country so stitched up by the governing elite the actual people have no one to vote for because they’re so brainwashed into thinking that somehow Labour and Tory are two different parties and not what we in Scotland have learned that they’re both one and the same who take turns when the unrest becomes too much, job done masses fooled move on

England, who now are being brought round to the notion that as well as all the other countries who want to do them down are being told it’s somehow Scotlands fault things are not as rosy as they used to be in 1950 green grass land and indeed the Harridon that is Nicola Sturgeon is an evil North Witch with tremendous magical powers that are wrecking their Brexit and she must be destroyed and as we’ve seen recently some of them mean this literally

England, a country that doesn’t blame itself for anything
yet they’re mighty and well, adjectives…

Scotland, a country where half the population are full of hope and aspiration and the other half want to be like….. England ???

This countess of Dumbarton business is bad news for Jackie Baillie. That particular ennoblement would have been the very thing when she finally joins the vermin in ermine!

Clerkin:

How do you *leave* the Independence movement? there aren’t memberships or tickets or certificates of existence so how do you *leave* something that you were never actually a member of

If memory serves me correctly the only thing Clerkin was ever a member of was the Labour party (I might be wrong on that)
Strange reporting about this man who stood outside Nicola Sturgeons house half the night protesting against her when she wasn’t even home

The neighbours told her when she got in, so I’m sure he’s a sad loss to all those who didnae know who the hell he was

Indy 2 @ 9.41 am
Well I don’t know about something good about the Growth Report!
But my take on it is……
This is aimed at demonstrating…. What I call “full spectrum Indy”….
We already know the “Common Weal” version,and to some that way forward is entirely possible and desirable!
But what about the other’s (likely to be soft No’s)?
Those who think that Indy is a nice idea,but who,believe themselves to be pragmatic and their worldview is that the world doesn’t actually work that way…
They see the current Western Democracies model of organising how society is run as the only realistic way.
The people who think that the SNP/Yes are offering the so called land of milk and honey….. nice but naw!!

This report,as far as I can tell,is demonstrating that Scotland can also organize itself on that model too.
If it wanted to!
Infact it can do it better!
And it shows the working..

So the range of choices for Indy is there…. As I said full spectrum Indy..

Both models….. Land of milk and Honey & Mini Me Westminster
are now credibly described,last time the ,Mini Me Westminster one was lacking.

This time we can show,that somewhere inbetween is the way forward for Scotland,all we have to do is take back the right to actually make those choices…. and convince enough people that we can do it better than Westminster.

Which obviously we can,for the decision-making will be Scotland specific and not London centric,but mainly because we will have brought our Government within slapping distance!!

Hope that helps??

Liz g @ 11-44am

That’s a very fair exposition of the Growth Report Liz.This paper is,after all,basically a set of recommendations offered up for debate.
Of course…to some..it doesn’t chime with their way of thinking so its ‘toys oot the pram.’No doubt we’ll be treated to a prime example of this from Loki tonight on QT.Can we expect a new ‘self-publicist-elites’ party featuring the usual suspects..McGarvey/Haggerty/Shafi/Boyd/Clerkin?

@ScottieDog
He’s quite easy to destroy at the right time which is why it’s good so many follow him because it does for them as well, but whoever’s on TV or whatever against him would need to research his blogs and twitter.

@Jim
Wow. I’m saying nothing 🙂

Tam the Bam @ 12.24
Thank you Tam..
I really can’t see what all the hand wringing is aboot?
I would have thought that it was obvious that it’s the neo-liberal model that we are going to be inheriting anyway.
The changes the people who prefer the “Common Weal” model want to see,will have to evolve ,IE, change over time,and probably small changes at that.

Therefore to show that Yes are not proposing to pull the whole lot down and start again,we needed to demonstrate that the neo- liberal model transposing over to Scotland can function (pardon the pun) independently from Westminster
Also to show potential improvements in the model when it becomes Scotland specific!

The conclusion being that,even only to stick with that model and just customize it for Scotland,would have enough benefits to make it worth doing.
But also that the doing of it wouldn’t cause chaos.

And most importantly those who don’t think that’s good enough and want to change away from the neo-liberal consensus!
Don’t have to stop their efforts to make it happen they
will not only have a voice,but also the power to make the case for change and then the ability to gain the numbers to make it happen!
But best of all won’t have Westminster,and the overwhelming numbers of the English electorate in the way.

Now I don’t want to see a “Mini Me Westminster” but I know that’s the system we will be inheriting and I am more than willing to argue for the change I want to see.
Hopefully the people of Scotland will agree to make Holyrood do it!!!
But we need the power to do so first that’s the bit that’s Non Negotiable… everything else is just detail!
Including the .. Question Time Narrative… what ever they punt at us tonight,will have very little to do with the conversations we are actually having!

I see that Loki or Darren McGarvey bloke is on QT tonight. No prizes for guessing whether or not he’ll stand up for a indy Scotland.

Smallaxe , just catching up , I have never understood why the western world is so silent on the plight of the Palestinians but raucous in their accusatory finger pointing or even inexcusable invasion of others under a spurious humanitarian banner.

Neither can I understand the inaction of other Arab countries which border the illegally expanding Israel – do they think they are immune to border encroachment.

Ian Foulds, I think of Prince harry as an English prince and one title should be enough for anyone , I don’t hold with the tossing out of ‘convenience titles’ to anyone and certainly not a sop to keep the Scots , Welsh <,Irish and English happy.

He's a prince – enough! He certainly doesn't need to trail around different titles just because his granny gave him them.

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