Wings Over Scotland

That’s deep, will take some time…

Excruciating detail!
Well done Chris.

From Ghandi(ish)

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they attacked you, then you take the pish out of them then they blow themselves up and you win

Looks more like a blown up photograph of Corbyns bed pan.

Tape worms are nasty things. Diarrohea is a natural consequence of which he has plenty off.

(apologies for anyone having breakfast)

Douglas Adams taught us the answer is 42, they’re looking at the wrong picture!

Oh what a tangled web we weave ….

Jeezo, it’s been a few years since i dabbled with level 6 “SSAD” data flow diagrams, but this is beyond comprehension, those external entities seem a bit obvious, iffy and too close for comfort, gonna give my good mate Ron Jeremy a quick call and get him to exlain this spurt of a mess, this is the kinda mess he thrives on….

Jeezo, it’s been a few years since i dabbled with level 6 “SSAD” data flow diagrams, but this is beyond comprehension, those external entities seem a bit obvious, iffy and too close for comfort, gonna give my good mate Ron Jeremy a quick call and get him to exlain this spurt of a mess, this is his line of work, he thrives on it….

Please excuse the accidental copy post, got a crap cold plus moby had a wee brain freeze, p.s excellent analysis Chris…. cheers

Just to make it clear to everyone, you have a copy of our plan B.

Stan Moore @ 8.56 and 8.58

Another messy screen from splittered coffee.

Ron Jeremy, you can always rely on Ron for a messy conclusion, but, to be fair, he times his to perfection (allegedly). How unlike our Imperial Masters.

Is that the best option?

No 46 hmm was that the one where they all ran around screaming because Bojo had just insulted most of the world?

or was that the one about them having a plan but not having a plan but definitely having a plan that they did not have and not wanting to tell anybody what the plan they definitely had was in case anybody found out about the plan that they did not have?

lol

Re: Ian McCubbin at 7.06.. More chance of finding Santa Clause than a ‘get-out’ clause

I think you’ve rather over-simplified the issues here, Chris. A few red lines would clarify. 😉

There’s a plan? Huzza! Progress!

I thought we were just running blindly at the brick wall and shouting “Open Sesame” right at the last second.

It troubled me very deeply that JK Rowling might sue Theresa May for plagiarism.

Chris your supposed to be ah cartoonist no ah Tate Modernist lol .

Aw Ffs Amber Rudd promoting plan B = Norway + , ah’ve set ma phaser tae Severe Malky an it hiz ah hair trigger so’s ah might no be here by Monday .

G4S security firm have informed their workforce IN THE UK ONLY that from next year they will be entitled to 8 days LESS paid leave per annum due to the NEW UK GOVERNMENT guidelines and workers legislation.
This is what the Tory right mean by taking back control from Brussels.
So to all of those G4S employees who voted for Brexit enjoy your consequences you fucking imbeciles.

I think the Tories are now at the stage where Baldrick will sidle-up to the Maybot, somewhere around Tuesday morning, to say: “Prime Minister, I have a cunning plan.”

Everything associated with Brexit looks a bit like that painting … chaotic.

Apparently the Home Office Brexit app is having problems.

“They’ve basically put out an app that isn’t ready to put into beta testing, never mind ready for Brexit,” said one German national

…. a metaphor for Brexit itself!

link to archive.is

Art on art, Chris. Creatively Pollock painted himself into a corner and had nowhere to go, so to speak, thus your latest cartoon is a great analogy. Spot on. Many thanks.

Your essential weekend reading:

England as a Colony: link to wp.me
The English Nationalist: link to wp.me

I hope this gynaecologist makes better medical decisions than political ones!

link to archive.is

Many lessons are to be learnt from the times we live in. Especially for Scotland! However, in a wider sense, so much has been laid bare. Our liberal society relies on trusting others – politicians, media, institutions, professionals, and academics. Few have come out of this well.

Anyone who wasn’t a sceptic before should be now!

Looks like a snakes and ladders board without the ladders….:)

If it’s decided by UK Parliament that we are leaving full EU membership, it’s nonsense to say we must wait to see what the UK decides will be the alternative to EU membership, so people know the choices.

We were promised: NO = Scotland is guaranteed to remain in the EU.

One thing we learned from 2014 is many fear change -especially the older someone gets – and Scotland has an ageing population. Also, those that feel satisfied with THEIR life, don’t want ANY change: “I’m alright (Union) Jack”.

Project Fear was the winner in 2014.

This time everyone would know: YES or NO would be a vote for uncertainty.

YES would be a vote where we can choose our path in an uncertain world.

If UK Parliament confirms any flavour of “Brexit”, Indyref MUST be announced.

Quite a constitutional Gordian Knot, this Brexit shambles. Good luck to the BBC in selling this bute to the Scottish public. Well, as history fans will know, there is only one way to “solve” the Gordian Knot problem. And it ai t for the faint-hearted. 🙂

That’s not a Jackson Pollock. That’s a copy of Ross Thomson’s signature.

@Valerie,

watched that interview with the Norwegian politician ,Heidi Nordby Lunde, and thought it was a spoof (still not 100% sure),

comparing the UK Gov to an abusive partner that spiked the drinks before a Christmas party,not to sure about the analogy but you get the sentiment,

link to youtube.com

and her opinion of UK joining the European Free Trade Association (EFTA),

link to youtube.com

“i think you would mess it up for us like you have messed it up for yourselves”,

`O wad some Power the giftie gie us. To see oursels as ithers see us! It wad frae mony a blunder free us, An’ foolish notion:).

While I never thought Brexit would be simple it is a source of constant amazement to me just how much of an arse May and Co have made of it. From her weird and wobbly election bid to the inability of her cabinet to agree on anything for even 5 minutes everything they touch turns to merde.

@ Kenno

I can’t see English pro-Leave rioters taking-to-the-streets. Where’s the upper-class, chinless eejit they’d need to inspire, lead and “legitimise” their actions?

I can, however, see a handful kicking their ingrained Tory-voting habit and dropping-out of the political process altogether.

You don’t have to watch Question Time to know that the English public has never really managed to get-to-grips with things political/democratic. Unfortunately, many here in Scotland aren’t far ahead of them, as was revealed in 2014.

The EU can follow the route supplied by WM to give the people of Scotland there answer.

“Art for art sakes”

“Vote yes for fcuk sakes”

Has quite a catchy ring to it, do you not think?

Josef Ó Luain says:

a handful kicking their ingrained Tory-voting habit and dropping-out of the political process altogether

Indeed. In particular, I hope a lot of Tories in Scotland don’t vote!

However, in a general sense, it’s never good when democracy fails.

It has been said that Tony Blair’s biggest achievement was to put millions off voting altogether. Rev Stu once pointed this out in an article, I believe.

This Brexit episode has been a total failure of democracy because power and influence have been abused, again. I agree, a lot of Tories and Brexiteers are going to be left disenchanted and disenfranchised.

Hah ha, gave me a chuckle thanks Chris. An art collector friend of mine often quotes this, ‘the saying goes, the best career move for an artist is when they shuffle off this mortal coil’.

Pollock’s work sells for millions, I am sure that Brexit one would be worth a very large fortune. Shame Brexit is going to make most people just that much poorer. Notice food prices creeping up in the shops anyone? 10p here, 30p there.

The man’s a genius! He’s got us all believing its a Pollock and its nothing like a Pollock; I now understand what they mean by con-artist! Cairns, you’re good, very good 🙂

But seriously that looks like someone just lost their way. One thing Pollock did was go over the edge of his canvas and thats just like us on March 29th. May is running the clock down in the hopes of getting her way on the grounds of TINA but Brexiteers will prefer the edge.

I’m old enough to remember our struggles to get in in the 70s, our industries were a mess we didn’t have the management. 40 years of employment and increasing GDP came from inward investment but it all came with flown in management too so we still dont have managers. Any Brexit will be a disaster

Me @ 12:14pm

I see the Brexit Betrayal rally is by the far far right, not just the elected far right.

link to archive.is

They might still get what they want, in the form of a no deal cliff jump Brexit!

However, that wasn’t exactly what Leave offered. It was a wonderful vision of English Independence which retained all those good bits of the EU relationship. And it was all to be so easy!

They were sold a crock of shite but told it was finest double cream. Yes, a lot of Brexiteers are justified in feeling angry. However, they need to look at who actually betrayed them, and why they themselves were so susceptible to being duped?

Colin Alexander trying to be “on our side”.
They must be getting worried at HQ.

OT. The May/Mundell Tories strike again.—- EU Citizens in Scotland.

“The UK Government will not allow Holyrood ministers to pay £65 settled status fees for European citizens who are working in Scotland’s public services, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

The First Minister has already promised her government would pick up the cost for NHS staff and other public-sector workers who have come to live in Scotland from other parts of the European Union.

But she told the Health and Social Care Scotland conference in Glasgow the “UK Government will not allow third-party payments, thereby forcing EU citizens to pay it upfront”.” 🙁

STV on-line yesterday.

Valerie Rudd is like the coracle rudderless . Labour & Tories up shit creek withoot ah paddle .

Now what we want is for all the SNP MPS to turn up at Westminster and cover everyone in paint.

Jack M @3.17

Surprise Surp.rise – BBC NonReporting Scotland have ignored this

GOAL! Storey follows Spittal.

Scenario 47 coming soon.

COYJ.

I would like to say why is it all wrong for England to set our laws Etc.,but alright for the e.u.to do so I,mean getting rid of 1 master to then get 27 other ones is not independence I do not want to be in the U.K. Or tha E.U or NATO or the U.N.Or a special relationship with the U.S. I want independence to mean mean just that no one else telling or advising us what to do this unity is strength is a myth it means outsiders having a say in your affairs and no one will look after your affairs better than you will the word independence means freedom not tied to any one else

@Blair Patterson 4.29

Bollocks!

I think you will find that the EU has the RoI’s back in this Brexit malarkey.

Westminster is the pariah, or piranha of you prefer. Feeding off the flesh of others.

Some rich eejits, who don’t care about the rest of us, aren’t happy. Their money has not been well spent!

“Donors say the Leave victory has been “squandered” by “cowards” as they vow to bankroll a Brexit political party.”

link to archive.is

Brexit, or the pursuit of it, will never go away. Even if it doesn’t happen this time, the EU will have a partner who isn’t committed to the relationship.

In a twisted sort of a way, it has that in common with Indy! We won’t be giving up either.

Still, the people of England voted for their ‘independence’ and if tested again they might well confirm that result. They need to be allowed to sail off into their mid Atlantic sunset. They just shouldn’t be demanding the rest of us follow.

Apparently Jackson Pollock himself doubted that it was a painting, (according to his wife).

I’m going to have to agree with him – I’ve never got to grips with impressionism. At least that’s my impression of the situation.

No one has stated there is not overwhelming English/Anglo bias in our political set up…that’s a fact…people like you bobp are campaigning to exclude English voters living in Scotland from voting in our referenda…you are conflating ‘facts’ with your own bias…instead of being against the political set up, which we are all against, not because ‘they are English’, but because it is simply unfair. You are against the English people who live here and want therm to be disenfranchised simply because they come from the country that happens to house the government who are creating all the unfairness.

Why don’t you think before you type and not assume that we are all stupid and don’t see how you are ‘sidling’ up to posters who ‘you’ think are saying the same thing as you?

You are centred on the aspect of our English residents as ‘foreign’ i.e. not Scottish and therefore to be barred from voting in our constitutional status. You fail to realise or even understand that your views are an anathema to the whole independence movement in Scotland and will never gain traction. We are civic nationalists, not blood and soil and either you are wilfully obscuring this or are too stupid to know the difference.

Either way your snide little comments are noted for what they are, a man desperately masking his own insecurities and incapable of mustering the arguments to convert those who hold differing views thereby resorting to casting out those he perceives as the ’cause’ rather than the political set up itself being the essential cause with which to engage those who are against the proposition.

Give. It. A. Fucking. Rest.

No on is buying what you are selling on here…nor what your compatriots espouse either.

Looks like the inside of Big Teresa’s brain on a good day.

If your premises are false

Your conclusions are false

No one has fallen off the planet because the earth isn’t flat. Flat earthers have a hard time with this because their premise that the earth is flat is false, therefore instead of changing their premise in light of factual observations they steadfastly refuse to change their premise and claim everyone else has been taken in by the factual observations and it is everyone else who is therefore holding the false premise that the earth is a globe.

Flat earthers ironically are really good at circular arguments.

Blair Paterson@4.29pm

I’m getting really fed up reading your mince. Give it a rest.

One wiz having a further look thru Jackson’s landscape… Clickonit.

Sure, ye can all see the bow and starboard side of HMS Titanic UK under their own political baggage on the waves at the bottom rhs of the tapestry yeah yeah..

But can anybuddy see (in 3D) the bus/coach going from right to left about to go over the cliff off of the springboard.. the Dover Express! Nice work Mr C.

Once you see it, you can’t unsee what you’ve seen now. 😉

Hauf time an the fitba’s finished 2.

FT @92, Jags 2 at HOME, Maryhill G20:
link to ptfc.co.uk

@ Clootie

I’m on the side of the ordinary sovereign people of Scotland. That’s why I support independence for Scotland.

why? I believe that’s the best choice for the ordinary people of Scotland.

@Blair Paterson
Personally I’d like to remain in the EU. The point is though that, as always, Scotland gets no say in her future. Under the status quo Scotland is utterly powerless however many people vote contrary to England or however many SNP MPS are elected. There is only one way out of this hegemony, dissolve the union and let voters in Scotland decide Scotland’s future.

Well whaddya know… Next fixture:

D day the 10th Dec 2018.

COYJ vs COYR.

2pm KO.

BREAKING…
Now less than 24 days remaining to go till iHogmanay!

K1…cubby…Graeme…Robert Sutherland…thepnr…

Hey guys…bollocks…how do you lot feel when that is aimed at you….
Patterson and others have an opinion, valid opinions, opinions they are allowed to put forth, if you don’t like them or disagree with them go ahead and have a grown up mature comment but save us the bullying nonsense and pressure that you impart on people who have every bit as much of a right to say what they think on this site.
I could swear and use foul language and bullying tactics like you lot but have a wider view of the World you see.
Get a grip
Everyone or just about everyone that comes on here wants Scottish independence and there are many routes suggested, what we don’t need are asses hee hawing and kicking up their hind legs every time someone says something that doesn’t fit their narrow view of the world.
I’m pro EU but I’m not thick enough to ridicule a Scottish independence supporter who is against being in the EU.
Look yourself in the mirror
Read comments on here
Respond to them if you wish
But do so mannerably for all our sakes
Your aggression trying to close down arguments and limit opinions is out of order

@Blair Paterson
Ever run a company, know anyone who does?
You can operate a wee company without being part of any buying/trade association at all. Until a company who does operates on your doorstep, then your business is doomed.
If you start to pay into trade collectives to benefit from collective buying powers and slightly better discount structures, you might just survive.
When your margins are in the small percentages you must, or you are doomed to lose trade to the business next door, doing the same product 10p or a pound cheaper.
Funnily enough those collectives operate under rules and regs your company must abide by.

You are a toley if you think any country does not have to abide by any rules and regulations set by such organisations. The trick is having a voice as a stakeholder to influence them.
Where small business individually might be at the mercy of a larger groups rules, they might form or join a ‘Small Business Collective’ whose rules and regs you have more say in and which then operates within the larger trade collectives with a stronger voice. You’re now paying into and taking rules from two organisations ad-infinitum – But funnily enough, you’re still trading and still run your business your way and get to influence the rules and regs affecting it.

You away and have a word with a business or a schoolchild who will explain it and don’t peddle arrant fantasy, isolationist nonsense.

@Terence callachan

You’re the one that need to “get a grip”.

How many times have your lies over the number of English born people living in Scotland needed to be pointed out to you yet still you choose to ignore the official figures from the 2011 census.

You callachan are poisonous to the Yes movement and so are all your “friends” that want to make Independence for Scotland all about being anti-English and blood and soil Nationalism.

YOU ARE WRONG and it’s you and your pals that think the same that need to get a fucking grip!

To Blair Patterson…
Hello..

I like being in the EU
I like the idea that it is possible to opt out of certain things which is in my view what makes being in EU different from UK
I like free movement I think people moving around the various countries in EU has increased , I like that, I reckon it helps us to see that people are people no matter where they are, be it France Spain North Korea Scotland or china, we are all humans trying to have a good healthy life.
I have reservations about NATO but initially I think it would be a good idea for Scotland to be in it, we hold a vitally strategic position on the map and for many countries it is important that USA and Russia are not imbalanced so a change in the near future would in my opinion be a risky business.I would prefer a discussion within NATO that keeps USA and Russia in friendly communication because it would not gain Scotland anything to have warships all around our coast escalating distrust.
It would be nice if NATO was not necessary, in fact I would say right now, is it necessary ?
Russia and China are teaming up USA are stupidly posting war ships in the China sea ,it’s a dangerous situation, I’m glad it’s on the other side of the world but it could have easily have been here on this side, all it takes is fear, fear of another countries intentions.
I’m not in favour of an EU army etc, where will that lead ?
I’m an ordinary guy ,with thoughts and opinions, I’m no expert but I read and try to keep up, I hate war and bullying behaviour which UK USA are famous for, if you look at most of the wars in my lifetime , I’m 63, it has been UK and USA at the heart of it, I’m sick of it.
I long for a peaceful welcoming independent Scotland that doesn’t send troops to another country , EVER, in any circumstances.

The pnr…
hello…narrow mindedness is often accompanied by threatening and abusive behaviour and language, it’s not necessary.
You can disagree with someone politely or you can swear at them and ridicule them and insult them.
The former encourages more discussion.
The latter stops it in its tracks
You can do better if you try.

Hey howdy hey Ghillie, aye can see it 2 now.

Hopefully others do too xx.

“What time is Love?”

Saltire.

Abulhaq 6.55 pm.Thank you for an honest reply.

And on the odd chance anyone’s wondering why I’m bothering with this, apart from a debate with someone who thinks the ECJ AG’s opinion is wrong, it’s this.

I don’t think the EU is a signator to the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, but both those papers make it clear the CJEU / ECJ do pay attention to it – even though not signed up to it.

I’ve also in my long history of rambling bye-ways, noticed courts paying attention to Conventions even if the parties aren’t signed up to them, for the reason they make sense I guess.

That Vienna Convention isn’t retrospective, so any Treaty before 1969 doesn’t come under its auspice. The Treaty of Union was back in 1706, but it’s possible any court action could similarly, use the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties as a guideline.

I got there in the end 🙂

Everything changes at and from midnight.

@Chang Sha

Thanks for that bit of Irish history. 🙂

Blair Paterson
In the UK Scotland does not have a veto. An independent Scotland in the EU would have a veto. In Belgium even the regions have a veto…in October 2016…
“Walloon parliament rejects CETA deal…Under Belgian laws, all five regional governments must approve the trade deals before the federal government can give consent. The Walloon parliament Friday voted by a large majority to reject the CETA deal, adding to the threat that the EU’s landmark agreement with Canada will be killed and undermining Brussels’ ability to steer the world’s biggest trade bloc.
Lawmakers who represent Belgium’s French-speaking community of Wallonia voted by 46-16 in favor of action that would prevent Belgium’s federal government from having full powers to sign the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement.
The vote took place two days after another regional assembly, the Federation of Wallonia-Brussels parliament voted to shoot down CETA in part because of worries that the deal could allow multinationals to sue governments.
Under Belgian laws, all five regional governments must approve trade deals like CETA before the federal government can give consent.”
When independent we could be like Belgium if we wish and even regions of Scotland could have a veto…I wonder if the fishermen of Peterhead and Fraserburgh would like their own veto on the CFP just like Wallonia?

Another night of desperation as 77 Brigaders are reduced to talking to each other.

Thepnr has always been one of the most inclusive and democratic of posters on Wings, opposed even to a simple WM majority of SNP seats rather than 50+% as a determinant of independence.

The impostors on here dangling synthetic anti-English bait really should give up ‘cos they just won’t get a bite.

Potentially a week of legal and constitutional Armageddon for Tories and WM. Not a popcorn fan but chocolate-coated cranberries can hit the spot (and the hips, dagnabbit).

One of Govan and Drumchapel’s finest writers didn’t mind a sweary word or two when describing what he thought. It even won him a Booker Prize.

Thing is see, lots of Scots speak exactly like that and in many circumstances there are is better way other than to say it like it is.

The window. Sammy opened it. He breathed deep. Wind and pelting rain. No the best of times to hit the road. Ye blunder on but ye blunder on. That’s what you do. What else is there man know what I’m talking about what else is there? fuck the suicide rates and statistics, Sammy was never a huffy bastard, that’s one thing. Know what he felt like? A can of fucking superlager. Aye no danger. He had a drouth. a drouth. Know what that means it means he’s fucking thirsty. Fuck yer coffee and fuck yer tea and fuck yer fucking milk if yer fucking lucky enough to fucking have fucking any of the fucking stuff man know what I’m saying. Plus nay tobacco.

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

🙂 Thepnr

Quality.

Puta!

We will soon be outwith the eye of their UK storm.

Mon the Blue Bonnets!

Primer.

Aye.

TCallaghan…we’ve been dealing with Paterson’s opinion since 2014 on here…we had the debates, for hours and hours and days and days on end. He would not take anything on.

He has literally said the exact verbatim splurge over and over again on here for over 4 years…you Johny come lately haven’t read these threads for that long clearly to see that we have all attempted many many hours of ‘debate’. People like you don’t debate, you make false allegations of ‘bullying’…when you have absolutely no idea how many times we have gone over this on here.

I’ll say it again for people like you who simply do not get it…it’s not a matter of ‘opinion’, there will be no removing of English voters from our constitutional referenda. It doesn’t matter how many times you dress this up as a ‘debating’ point, it’s not up for debate.

You and your ilk will never get your way on this and I could give one flying fuck what you think about this and how much time you are committing to spewing the same garbage day in and day out, it amounts to disenfranchising a sections (any section) of our population to achieve a ‘desired outcome’.

What precedent would that set up? Where would it stop? Who’s next?

You sir are a fool and are out to deceive others with your rhetoric on this matter, you are treating those who object and have done eloquently on here a thousand times before your little name arrived on our screens, as if we have just arrived en masse to ‘bully’ your ilk.

No we haven’t, we have made the salient points, we have provided links that prove the lie of ‘numbers’ in your case regarding the voters in this group you want banned. We have explained and exposed the express/daily mail/telegraph lies a thousand times to those who come on here blustering about the EU and how they are out to get us etc etc.

You are witnessing the ‘short hand’ version, because some of us spent days going over this with people just like you…to no avail, because you are not here to debate, you are here to tell us how wrong we and to make out those of us who have posted for years are suddenly all ‘trolls’.

It’s fucking laughable, because you don’t have an answer to the debating points that have been raised, you just attack those who actually engage with you cause they disagree vehemently with the same tired old tropes masquerading as worthy points of debate?

The Scottish government will never change the franchise to allow for your take on this, they will never ever ever ever ever go along with what you advocate. That is a fact. It’s not bullying, it’s not getting at ‘you’. By all means have your stupid opinions, by all means make an absolute arse of yourself on here.

But don’t expect us to just sit back and watch your huffy little tactics of attempting to make out it is we who largely agree with our elected government on these matters, that are in the ‘wrong’ on this one.

OT
Aye aye, I think JSW who might be Bankster is back on The National forum.

@Blair Paterson says: 8 December, 2018 at 4:29 pm:

” … I would like to say why is it all wrong for England to set our laws Etc.,but alright for the e.u.to do so I,mean getting rid of 1 master to then get 27 other ones is not independence”

Well now that you have exposed the fact that you don’t know anything about the EU can we expect you to be quiet now?

There is an old saying that it is best to keep quiet when people believe you to be an idiot than to speak out and prove them right.

You obviously have no idea of how the EU and UK are very different in the way they work.

Ignorance, so they say, is bliss.

K1 8.34 for Scotlands sake i hope to god you are right.but the next indyref will prove who was right,and who was wrong. But Scotland wont forgive or forget those who would sell us out in the next referendum.

Ps. We wont vote liebor.lol

Regarding residence. If someone can hop off a plane from outer martonia, flick along to the council, register to vote, and vote in a referendum the same day, I doubt there’d be anyone n the whole of Scotland who would support such stupidity of the franchise. Same if it took even 2 weeks to do that. So acceptable length of residency is just a question of “how long”.

Anyway, no point in discussing this, there was a consulation in 2017 and the decisions still aren’t out as the results are only just out (October), the next consultation is unlikely to be before 2022 at the very earliers – these things cost money, and money means nurses on the street or in the classroom 🙂

“liebor”

LOL

Indyref2. Common sense still has to prevail surely. We cannot stack the dice against ourselves.

Uno mas 8.51pm. Glad no one knows my address. I’ve already stockpiled jim beam £16 and JD a litre. Along with paracetamol, dried pasta and rice for brexit.lol.

I’m aff tae dae it noo cactus. Talk tae yae in the morening.

@Colin Alexander says: 8 December, 2018 at 5:43 pm:

” … I’m on the side of the ordinary sovereign people of Scotland. That’s why I support independence for Scotland.
why? I believe that’s the best choice for the ordinary people of Scotland.”

Then, Colin, why is it that you constantly attempt to belittle the FM, SG and SNP who are the only ones that can gain that independence you claim to espouse?

To peffers…
Who are you…to say to anyone commenting on here…be quiet ?
Bluster….
Anyone on here can say what they want to say …it’s not your call wee man ..

It should of course be, threw out…

The pnr…
Swearing, foul language,
Here is some advice
People don’t see it as smart, hip, cool,
It makes you look daft,
People think you just can’t find a better word and that why every second word is “F” this ” F” that
Really , give yourself some credit, speak properly with respect
You will be taken more seriously
You do want people to listen to what you say don’t you ?
You do actually have some great points of view in my humble opinion but insulting people is not favourable