The opposite of prestige
Posted on
September 13, 2014 by
Chris Cairns
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Cracking Chris..
I know, where he can shove it.
Its himself in the bag. link to newstatesman.com
If you vote YES “then I will want to join Johann Lamont in fighting him and securing the return of a Labour government.
Be afraid Scotland, the big clunking fist is coming to clunk us.
Ahh, that’s where labour hid the thousands of activists that they promised the tories they could provide.
Hey Chris,
When’s the wee book of cartoons coming out?
A pig in a poke
Tony Blair or violence – that”s all BT have left. Heid doon, Keep gaun.
I thought I saw Chris had a ‘Nick Robinson as Lenin’ cartoon the other day. That was excellent too.
Very clever – the little oink! is a nice touch
I wonder what we will get hit with today (stick or carrot?)
I just love the clue “oink”. Very clever. I watched Brown and Milliband on TV and he has promised the earth. The man is deluded, the Labour Party have lost all credibility in Scotland and therefore cannot secure the seats they need to get elected next year.
Wow, Jim Sillars on Sky News taking on the establishment, and tearing it apart so what did they do, cut him off. Well done Jim.
Fab!
@cearc says:
13 September, 2014 at 7:21 am
I seen it either up for sale. or coming up soon for sale, on Bellacaledonia but I can’t find the link now
I well recall Margo MacDonald saying don’t forget you are taking on the whole British State Apparatus.
Now that all the “it only remains to bayonet the wounded” love bombing is over, the Daily Record is in full Daily Mail hate mode from now on as will be the rest of the cosy London establishment elite and media outlets.
No scare story and no dirty tricks will be spared.
Just watched Jim Sillars being verbally abused,interrupted,loaded questions FLUNG ACROSS HIS REPLIES and downright insulted on Sky news just minutes ago.
Murdoch has a big stick and his serried slaves are beating Scots with his stick – for wages.
Orchestrated from London – not in Scotland.
FFS.
A cracker, Chris. Talking of pigs in a poke, my take on TTiP
logicsrock.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/hold-hoooold-raise-lancets.html
The daily record (rangers) is merely playing up to its fanbase of Orange Order types.
sorry o/t – but apparently there’s a wee singalong in Glasgow today at high noon -last chance to sing with friends in the UK
I actually thought Broon looked ridiculous on TV yesterday.
Here was a nearly retired, back bench opposition MP, strutting about in front of a selected audience, and guaranteeing more powers for Scotland! How the feck can he guarantee anything!
The emperor is feckin naikit!
Was at a packed Tommy Sheridan meeting last night. He gave Tory Boy George Galloway, RBS, Asda, etc, pelters and was cheered to the rafters. So the scare stories are not working with everyone and have the opposite effect mong many. Just hope can do it regardless on Thursday.
He can pull what he wants, its only going to get vitoed and he knows it! The man only kids him self, sad bugger.
[…] The opposite of prestige […]
All the Tory Gelt and all they got was a cheap sideshow from Labour.
The promised ‘A’ Team of Big Hitters Curran, Reid, Robertson and Brown were a busted flush.
Who will be left standing in this awful charade on Friday?.
And does anyone seriously believe that in the aftermath of Independence it will be carry on as normal for any of the No cabal? Labour will have to reinvent itself. There is likely to be a new centre right grouping. Will there be a place for the Liberals at all?
I know Jonah Brown holds himself in the highest esteem – he is the saviour of the world after all – but unless he is topping a party list he isn’t coming anywhere near a parliament near us any time soon. The Labour party is about to tear itself apart. He is on the wrong side of history. With few exceptions, electorates move on. All political careers end in failure ( Enoch ). This imbecile’s was no different. New Scotland needs new blood. Not an old guard of second rate rentseekers.
Now one way to ensure he doesn’t float to the top of the pan ( sorry ) would be to insist in our new parliament that MSP’s have a full time job as MSP only. That would certainly keep him out of our hair.
We call all recognise “a Brown pig in a poke”
Chris could you kin you hiv no made it ah Hare oota his ArseHole, because that Mans wan Big Arse,none the less briliant cartoon.
Disgusting Ronnie. Keep it clean.
Wot would the EBC say?
As we approach the final weekend of campaigning in this historic referendum campaign, please come along and join us at our Yes Maryhill and Springburn campaign base at 1073 Maryhill Road, G20 9AX (opposite Eastpark Home and just before Tesco).
We are open from 10.30am and invite you to come along and help us to make tomorrow, truly a super Saturday!
There will be campaign work all day; feel free to drop in and help out.
Events planned include a joint Partick Thistle and Inverness Caley fans’ stall outside the main stand at Firhill at 2pm where fans from both teams will unite to show their support for a Yes vote on Thursday.
Yours for Scotland
Andrew Baddon
SNP Organiser for Maryhill and Springburn
@ Wanton
Jim is a big boy and kent whit he got intae
He handled it well
We cant expect better treatment for those on the side o Yes
So lets not complain about it because it wont change anyway.
Lets take pride in those who stand firm against the tide o negativity n state the cause for which we will vote for. And that includes us all, those who will appear in the media and those (us) who stand firm in the street, work place and home.
Jackie Bailie is aw worried in case Greggs and Trident leave efter Independence.
I really think Brown needs treatment.What conclusion can you come to when he strutts in front of a selected audience ranting and raving.
He cannot guarantee anything, he knows this. He daily perputates lies, knowing that is what they are. He is delusional and now sees himself as the PM of Scotland. WTF,
he clearly thinks he is held in esteem here.
Look in the Morror Gordon and see the truth, you are an old windbag, and an utter failure as a politician, a proven liar and a manipulator. Why would anyone believe anything you say.
Andy Cameron believes in him.
Davie Cameron was asked if that was a full moon over Scotland. He said, “I don’t know. I’m a stranger here myself”. Or was that Chic Murray in Maryhill.
Is George Gallawa noo pickin’ up Yankee cheques from Walmart-Asda?
link to news.bbc.co.uk He’s pulling out his “vote NO for a timetable” fraud coz Labour right to reign over Scotland forever and ever achieved so much last time.
I’m past angry at MSM
now I’m laughing at them,knowing my YES thurs
Anyone got links for Sheridan/Galloway ?
Likewise for the BIG Debate with all the youngsters ( not the BBC one, which by now will be cut and pasted to suit their agenda.
Murdoch doesn’t have a controlling interest in Sky News, anymore had to give it up to maintain other Media interests. Too much monopoly in the UK. Thanks to Thatcher. No balanced free and fair Press, Controlled by Westminster. Leveson would have given a slight redress against Press monopoly. Guardian is the only paper with some independence of editorial. Cameron and Clegg put the heavy mob in to smash up the print room, when the Guardian didn’t comply to their demands. Secret ‘D’ notices, phone calls, briefing etc. Press illegal phone tapping, bribing Police and public officials. Cabel of crooks.
I noticed Brown finally admitted he was Scottish. Oh wait I take it back, it was okay, he was in Scotland after all, it’s allowed.
Lying, tax evading millionaire trickster and the rabbit. Or is it a squirrel. Trying to pull the wool.
Why doesn’t he just retire.
Brilliant Chris & hits nail on head, pig in a poke richt e’nuff 😎 YES we WILL
I voted No thanks because Gordon Brown said they’ll give us lots more powers in a convention of Westminster week after the ref and I dont want the uncertainty of Scotland running Scotland but I want the uncertainty of England deciding what powers they think Scotland can handle because thats my kind of uncertainty and I like UKOK uncertainty because we can’t have the uncertainty of our own government in Holyrood because Gordon Brown says that its too uncertain and we need the uncertainty of more devolved powers by Gordon that we don’t what they are but its UKOK certainty of England telling us what we need, certainly through massive devo power that Scotland needs but not too much uncertainty devo powers with a Scottish parliament that England can dissolve whenever it wants to, certainly, because Gordon Brown would never lie to North Britain.
Clear.
Davidb,
The White Feather Club blog expands on your point here;
link to whitefeatherclub.wordpress.com
here’s another laugh
A spokesman for the BBC told The Drum: “Our coverage of the referendum story is fair, accurate and impartial, in line with our editorial guidelines.”
We all know there’s a dinosaur parade in Edinburgh, but if there are any rogue mischiefs who want to make a name for themselves, they might appear anywhere.
Good luck a’body – be careful out there…
Theme from Hill Street Blues:
link to youtube.com
Ref Deutsch Bank, I would pay no heed to what they have said, if this was meaningful they would have said it long before now.
Timing makes the case against them, this is a result of Cameron’s “help me” call. A bank is a Bank, the bigger ones like Deutsch Bank are working together daily for their common good. The do not want the Financial centre in London reformed in any way, it suits them fine for their money deals, just as it is.
They do not care about Scotland, they do care about the possible reform of the financial institutions in Scotland, which if done would effect them if it grows, and may in turn effect them. But mostly is an old pal act.
davidb keep the eye on the prize. Everything after will take care of its self, These last 5 days we all need to concentrate on the goal, we have the answers to the questions that the un-decided need. Lets not waste our energy on the media, we know what they stand for, lets make sure everyone else knows that state controlled media is not the domain of middle and far east dictatorships. Its here and alive in 21st century better together land!
There’s no need to be careful in Embro today. The OO battle with each other aswell as everyone else.
folks this is brilliant
link to youtube.com
@Majorbloodnok – ‘Lenin’ cartoon (and others) at link to facebook.com
Cheers.
You can’t really satirise any progressive liberal bunch of Tory lite hypocrite liggers, especially after they went after the one eyed Scottish idiot, who then went on to become the most unpopular Prime Minister ever, but now they expect Scotland to take Crash seriously.
So lets leave it to British progressive media to do it for us.
link to theguardian.com
link to theguardian.com
The price of a packet of M&S Percy Pigs may rise to £7.50 in an independent Scawtland and will represent a month’s wages to the handful of workers that remain.
Labour think
Ian not so smart
Countries who think independence is lunatic? The USA;China;Germany;Spain;France;Australia;Canada etc. Yes countries? North Korea. That’s it.
Gordon Brown is an ex-politician. By his own admission.
link to theguardian.com
Former PM says he will return to frontline politics unless first minister withdraws ‘nationalist deception’ over privatisation
• Live updates from the Scotland independence battle
So its a Lamont and Brown front bench Holyrood now. Be very hard trying to keep a straight face with Gordon and Johann going at it at FMQ’s. Jim Murphy piling in too, it’d be like panto.
Check out the latest Gardham piece via WOS Twitter. Jaw-dropping.
Don’t forget Alistair! This from today’s Guardian
“….Darling, chairman of the pro-UK Better Together campaign, also hinted for the first time he could consider switching his political career from Westminster – where he spent 13 years in the Labour cabinet – to the Scottish parliament after the referendum is over….”
That’s a poop bag.
Topper Chris, he also uses the magic wand when he’s processing the proceeds to his ‘charity’.
Why is he called clunking fist is it because he looks like klanky?
I’m a Yes voter. I have a feeling if we can get through the ridiculuous nonsense emanating from the Fear Puppets then we can do this, we can regain an Independent Scotland. I’ve been reading this site for weeks and feel it’s doing a great job along with the official campaign. The WBB (which I bought off Amazon – nobody has been to my door, nor have I seen anyone campaigning in Ayr/Prestwick) has converted one, maybe two voters in this house so hopefully our household will be providing 3 Yes votes. My daughter gave the WBB to her boyfriend who read it, took down the No posters in his bedroom and is a Yes convert.
(I know, he’s a teenage boy though isn’t he? 🙂
Let’s do this! Vote Yes.
Yes, the rabbit would in fact seem to have a curly tail!
Lib-Lab-Con … “we promise we will think about more powers”. All just vapourware. The handy thing about Broon is he is acting on his own and anything he says should be ignored. Ignored by Scots certainly, but also his words are equally deniable by everyone at Westminster! He is spokeman only for himself.
Jam tomorrow? Rotten, festering, well past their sell-by fruit more like.
just picked this up on Stu’s twitter feed, check the byline
link to heraldscotland.com
UKOK liggers of a feather report each others none news or, I don’t believe it! Thats my Victor Meldrew impression, I don’t believe it. Rab C Nesbitt gave them a BBC Scotch clown to laugh at for years and then they cooked up that twat too. At least BBC only laugh at the thick Irish now or is that stopped too.
link to bbc.co.uk
How low can the BBC get?
Well let’s say pretty low when even FOX News think BBC is worse than themselves. 😛
link to facebook.com
The article by Magnus Gardham link to archive.today is a bit of a bunker buster.
A pleasant surprise.
Gavin Hastings
“People say ‘what’s the greatest honour you had as a rugby player?’ Being captain of the British Lions. That’s bigger than being captain of Scotland, so you know what I’m saying.”
Good grief Marcus Gardham. did not expect that. Wow
Wonder when the live coverage of the Better Together Orange Order angry unionists march starts on the BBC, wonder if it’s James Cook reporting the boy who can’t say Bannockburn 🙂
Has Magnus Cardham been fired? From
link to derekbateman.co.uk
to this
“Gordon Brown says proposals, proposals, proposals. He can propose all he likes, but he can provide NOTHING. At least the timetable at my local train station tells me when the train is coming.
Do these proposals also include a promise to an end to boom and bust? If not, why not ?”
Is it stiff upper lip sarcasm, as the natives come pouring over the wall.
I want to know this.
As I have voted NO because of the information supplied to me by Gordon Brown if it turns out that I end up worse than I am now will I be able to sue the lying, hypocritical, two faced son of a bitch! 😛
Someone sane has hacked Magnus Gardhams accoont and written something real.
As for Gavin Hastings! he couldnae kick the heid aff a dandelion in the world cup semi against England in 91. bawbag
Another sunny morning in Dun Eideann, a great day. 🙂
Lots of pro indy campaigning events going on, so we still have a chance to get more votes for YES. Radical independence are having a big weekend of campaigning;
link to radicalindependence.org
and
link to radicalindependence.org
Meanwhile the bigots of the neolithic Orange Lodge will be marching in Edinburgh today, so some pubs will do lots of business, with many beer cans thrown around in the meadows and Holyrood park.
Let’s just avoid them. The media would love ANY kind of trouble, just so they can blame that ‘alicsammin’ and the ‘NATS’, as usual. If you are in Edinburgh, watch out for agents provocateurs – there MAY be some, who will seem like YES supporters who will try to encourage trouble with the Orange Lodge. They are NOT our friends, and will likely be special Branch stooges. Westminster has done such things before.
Most people in Scotland no longer have the time of day for the Lodge. They see them for what they are.
Anyway, who would want to spend time with those orangey nutters, when we can win more votes from NORMAL people elsewhere. 🙂
The “Magnus Gardham” opinion piece everyone is going on about is by Alan McGee. Search for The Herald front page on twitter and look below the masthead.
If the Magnus Grdhamm ed. in the Herald is correct, then I say welcome, Mr. Gardham. welcome to sanity. Welcome to YES.
FEAR Forget Everything And Run or FEAR Face Everything And Rise. Quote from Zig Ziglar
Wikipedia: Magnus Gardham (born 29 September 1960) has been a record label owner, musician, manager, and music blogger for The Guardian.
Gardham is best known for co-forming and running the independent Creation Records label from 1983–1999, and then Poptones from 1999-2007. He has managed and championed successful acts such as The Jesus and Mary Chain, Primal Scream, My Bloody Valentine, Oasis, The Libertines.
Brown will stand as an MSP will he? Bet he will want absolutely top billing on the list but. After a Yes, all those people with opened eyes are not likely to be voting for the Blairite version of SLAB, not when there are genuine Social Democratic parties in the field so he will need that list position.
FFS
What’s happened at the Herald?
An honest account
Wow, what’s happened to Gardham. I stopped buying the Herald a while ago, mainly because of him. I think he has seen the writing on the wall.
Do Broon & Flipper think that now they have to leave the sinking ship that they will stroll on into Holyrood. People who have lied to us, called us Nazi’s, scroungers and every other derogetary name they can think of. Nae chance boys, sling yer hook,yer no wanted up here.
We’ve got them on the run, that’s more than obvious. Eyes on the prize, heid doon and keep pushing. We will win, we will take our country back into the hands of the people of Scotland, and that’s the best prize in the world to win.
Chris, how comprehensively wrong! Tails on the man who wore a lounge suit to the Lord Mayor’s Banquet. Pigs in shit. Its a pity that the table seems to be bearing up, otherwise just everything wrong, a wonderful depiction of the man and his mission. All it needs is a squirrel shaped border.
Bravo!
Twenty14 @ 7:45am
Yeah that’s right. ‘One Big Glesga Push’ is on at 12 noon.
Organised through Facebook and 1300 Yesser’s have confirmed their attendance, myself and family included, though I’d expect there to be many more.
The difference to the Orange Order get together is that our’s will be fun and happy and a right party atmosphere I would expect.
Is that piece by Magnus Gardham real?
surely it’s some kind of hoax?
Readers of Herald survey. 75% of readers support YES.
Guardian readers 50/50. Critical of the SNP and No campaign.
Daily Record support Labour Party – critical of NO campaign. neutral towards YES. Readers 50/50
Sun wants to back a winner. Undecided.
Research last 4 weeks – Heinz Branderburg – Strathclyde Uni. BBC Scotland.
Edinburgh Southside: Saturday 15 Sept
AyeMarchmont are intending to be at both entrances of the Cameron Toll shopping centre this morning from 1030 till about 1300 (unless they set the dogs on us).
We’re normally at the Meadows (and will be from Sunday to Wednesday this week coming) but as 10,000 Orangemen are supposed to mustering in the park today we thought we’d be more usefully employed elsewhere.
If you are passing Cameron Toll come and say hi, and preferably Aye.
Wales Supporting YES – Cymru’n Cefnogi IE
Wales Supporting YES Supporting Scottish Independence 2pm, Saturday September 13th Senedd Building, Cardiff Bay Speakers: * Leanne Wood AM (Plaid Cymru Leader) * Ray Davies (Labour Councillor) * Pippa Bartolotti (Wales Green Party Leader) * Andrew Redmond Barr (National Collective) * Jamie Wallace (SNP Member & Gaelic Speaker) * Iestyn ap Rhobert (Go For It Scotland) * Armon Gwilym + Harriet (Letters of Support from Scotland) * Pol Wong Less than a week before the historical vote in Scotland, come to the Welsh capital to wish the people of Scotland well in their quest for self-determination.
@heedtracker says: 13 September, 2014 at 7:13 am:
“If you vote YES “then I will want to join Johann Lamont in fighting him and securing the return of a Labour government.”
This man became delusional quite some time ago. Does he not realise that it is because of him and the other Labour, “Big Hitters”, moving to the right and becoming indistinguishable from the rest of the Westminster Mafia. All three parties of which are now united under the accurate banner of a unified group calling itself, “Better Together”, and their fighting wing, “Project Fear”, in which we have strange bedfellows like the Loyal Orange Order, George Galloway’s Respect Party, the UKIP and the BNP. We even see them pleading with Elizabeth Queen of Scots to intervene in a democratic campaign between her two kingdoms.
Whether Gordon Brown and the rest of the Labour, Tory and LibDem big hitters believe it or not, win, draw or lose, their careers in Scotland can only end in tears – for them. Imagine the reactions of the NO voters who, by either being fooled or frightened into their choice by the obviously empty promises of the Better Together Unionist Party, (for that is what it has become A united Party), when the coming austerity cuts bite and the NHS, education and other good SG policies are snatched away if their NO votes result in a still dependant Scotland. The alternative being those Big Hitters sitting in Holyrood voting against the best things an independent Scottish government is attempting to achieve. Win draw or lose these big hitters are Yesterday’s Men & Women and are so by their own hands.
PS – Meant to say – great one Chris, as usual right on the button.
Have a really successful day, MajorBlodnok. The best tactic, as you say, is to avoid the Orangemen’s march. This potentially aggressive act will only further sully the NO cause – and actually is symbolic of the intent, attitude and elements giving it energy. It will speak volumes to any DK’s, especially if YES ignores it and remains calm.
@ Patrick Roden
Patrick, I just submitted a comment on the Herald page, basically telling Magnus Gardham I loved him, and “welcome on board, brother etc.,” when the article was pulled and a wee message popped up saying the article was an error blah blah. It has been replaced by the usual gardham guff.
But someone was smart enough to make a screen-grab: see Murray McCallum at 09:19
@Clootie says: 13 September, 2014 at 7:27 am:
“I wonder what we will get hit with today (stick or carrot?)”
Better Together, the only unified political party that dangles a carrot on a stick in front of their victims and whacks them on the rear with the same stick while holding onto the carrot for themselves.
Got a King James Bible themed £2 coin in my change this morning which carries the 1st 6 words of the opening line of the Bible-
“In the beginning was the Word” – which made me think.
In the beginning was the word, and the word was Yes.
But then along came a bad word and this word was NO.
Then the trouble started.
No kicked the yes word and said ‘be afraid’.
But Yes replied and said ‘afraid of you, aye that will be right.
But No persisted and kicked Yes again and punched him.
‘Be afraid’ threatened No, for you are too wee, too poor, and too stupid. I am the Boss.
But Yes replied ‘Till now, you have been the Boss, but myself and all the other Yesses are fed up with you for you have been a very corrupt and greedy boss and we’ve decided to make our own decisions from now on.
No was very angry and started to shout abuse and threats.
But Yes turned away and ignored the ranting No who fell into a rage and swore vengeance on Yes for having the audacity to stand up to him.
Then the yesses decided to have a vote to restore their right to be an independent people.
But many were afraid of the Boss and had listened to his threats.
Others were members of the Boss’s family and wore his colours, while others still, had made friends with the Boss who had rewarded them and so they would not join the Yesses.
But there were too many who had suffered badly under the Boss or who did not agree with the Boss’s crooked ways, for he was a liar and a thief and treated the poor and the sick badly.
No continued to threaten Yes but Yes and his friends by now had stopped listening to No.
Yes told everyone of how good life could be if they were free to make their own decisions and keep all their wages.
The Yesses knew this was the way to go.
But No couldn’t stand the thought of losing all the money he had been taking from the Yesses so he fought against them.
No was a formidable foe and he had many friends.
The struggle between Yes and No
continued for a long time . . . . .
The DM is on the rampage now. The online English version has several unbelievable articles. One by Michael Gove ( don’t make my parents foreigners to me) which I consider to be inciting racial hatred of all foreign people. Another by Quentin Letts telling us Salmond’s hatred of the English is because he was dumped by an English girl in his youth (it must be true it’s in the headline!), and an implication SNP policies will lead to violence. And on and on.
This foreigner thing is scary for us in England. With a yes vote I think attitudes will change to us.
Mind you a no vote and everywhere I go I just know I will get mocked for Scots being feart.
Please don’t let them mock us, folks.
Do you get the impression that there is a collective madness running thro the British ‘elite’.
Dave’s state of affairs
Be still my thumping heart
My brain is coming apart
We had everything in the bag
Until the poll’s began to sag
Our day’s appear numbered
The Scot’s won’t be lumbered
By all that we represent
The alternative heaven sent
Britain Bitten
Great Britain been bitten, it’s no longer aligned
A new chapter written, Scotland’s resigned
A thousand years of deceit and miss use
This is the time to return the abuse
Land of Hope and Glory might sound quite grand
To sing to yourselves in a diminished England
Your destiny determined by an inglorious past
For all of your sin’s from first to the last
James Dow
VOTE FOR HOPE OVER FEAR
@liz says:
Do you get the impression that there is a collective madness running thro the British ‘elite’.
I blame inbreeding.
Think out of all of them, Browns delusional ranting has been the biggest eye opener. He is a legend in his own lunchtime, with a tenous grasp on reality.
Said it before Chris, you need to publish a book of your referendum cartoons…….best seller guaranteed
O/T
Sorry but just got to get this out or I’ll burst.
I’m so fucking angry at the lies and deceit of the British colonial government. I grew up trusting the BBC for example. Always felt that that was the channel to watch in important moments. Once this is over, we will NEVER watch it again. Cancelled the Scotsman weeks ago.
I’m so proud of the people who live in Scotland.
I’m so nervous. Can’t sleep, can’t eat, keep crying (I’m a football watching bloke – I don’t do crying).
Freedom is so close. This is the defining moment of my life. I have lived and breathed for the freedom of my country since I was about 10. Please please don’t fuck it up now, Scotland.
Oh God, crying again.
Chris……your referendum cartoons would be a best seller……think about publishing them.
liz says:
13 September, 2014 at 10:57 am
Do you get the impression that there is a collective madness running thro the British ‘elite’.
YES and they can’t stop it.
Yes and did you know that wee Auld Nick Robinson was ahead Tory boy at Uni?