Wings Over Scotland

It is clear the Tory policy, is ‘let them die’. ‘Think of the money saved without all those disabled weak and elderly’, says Dominic the psycopathic government advisor. A kind of Tory ‘year zero’.

What is clear, is that the English Tory government are not ahead of the virus, but rather merely responding afterwards to events. Other countries are soooo far ahead in their tactics to tackle this infection.

Lucky for us that Scotland’s been in the delay phase since 2014…. I’ll get my coat…

Seriously however, Boris Johnson’s reaction to the Pandemic is the same as the BritNat reaction to Brexit. It’s a thing too big and too complicated for their narrow minded neuroses to cope with. It’s a challenge that would draw them out their comfort zone, so they reject the challenge, and instead hide under the covers to snuggle in deep with the fictions and exceptionalisms they’ve been indoctrinated to believe.

The UK can’t bully Europe into respecting Spoiled Brat British Exceptionalism, so rather than embrace humility and stop being a spoiled brat, it’s “damn those foreign Johnnys”, we’ll make them jealous when we show them how much fun it is being a spoiled brat without any boundaries.

The UK has no concept of teamwork.

We can’t defeat Corona Virus, so we won’t face the challenge of failure, instead we’ll damn the odds and defy the disease to do it’s worse. That’s the cheap and easy workaround that spares having to do something taxing, but still let’s us feel good about ourselves. Nobody does entitled defiance like the Brits.

It’s the essence of the British psyche… Keep Calm and carry on… Don’t rise to engage a taxing challenge, curl up in a ball and hope the nasty thing goes away.

Britain is a sick parody of itself. Boris Johnson is reacting to Cov19 as if he was seated at the dinner table in Carry On Up the Kyber, and ignoring the guns, explosions and crumbing empire falling down around his ears.

The UK is being led by a man who thinks he’s Winston Churchill, but who’s actually a Sid James caricature from the late 1960’s, right down to his casual infidelity.

I don’t understand why this entire policy is based on herd immunity which assumes that you get COVID-19 and then are immune to it and yet there have been (at least) several cases reported of folks being ‘cured’ and then becoming reinfected.

Breeks

Sorry Dear Boy, but, I cannot imagine Boris as Sir Sydney Rough-Diamond, well, apart from having “tiffin” with the Khasi’s wives. I see him more as Bungdit Din. However, he is also, very-definitely, a Fakir.

Yikes !

So, looking for something to kickstart the debate over independence and send a strong message that the idiocy oozing out of Westminster and the Union are liabilities that won’t be tolerated?

Don’t bother with referendums, don’t bother with constitutional challenges (sorry, Breeks).

Close the border! Today!

Carry On Pee Emming. Yes Prime Minister?

Oh what fools these mortals be.

Maybe your best yet Chris.

Knows the London Press ones sideways.

Everything in one image of political satire

The paper bag being used for containment, brilliant.

Last week I cancelled my subscription to the National…. fed up with their WOKE nonsense … moat recently their misreporting of the Alex Salmond trial… as bad as the Daily Record and their ‘sister’ paper the Herald – bot known liars.

@ Achnababan says:
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I think it’s a problem they have being kind of thin on staff that certain kinds of stories are ‘thinly’ treated, leading to carelessly accepting tropes from the MSM – I’ve seen it in some of their reports on the Middle East for instance, despite their having one (usually) excellent World news reporter. I wouldn’t quit on them though as they are still the only mainstream pro-Indy outlet around and we can’t afford to lose them despite their flaws.

I usually go here for trial reports and there are links to others as well: link to craigmurray.org.uk

Big green thing must be plan A rev H.
Boris trying to hang on to it in the hope that it succeeds in establishing that calling someone else stupid can be used (or ignored at will) in evidence of serious criminal intent under the same Scots law doctrine that binds Westminster following the prorogation shenanigans.

Stuart and Stumac

I hear and agree with you – but basically, having been a subscriber from the word go, I have had enough. I am simply not prepared to pay for concocted narratives masquerading as journalism from a paper purportedly a champion for Independence that has taken sides on the AS case (comments not allowed on the offending article this morning).

Herd immunity takes time to development, vaccine works much quicker and generally has very little to no symptoms.
People being reinfected, might just be people getting a common cold or actual flu either first or second – need to be sure if was a reinfection.

As immunologists say “We don’t know for sure”

Britain’s things go better with Boris says he does know, so join together get sick and die and once that’s out of the way quickly Mr Johnson’s stocks and shares can get back to normal and his money and legacy can move on safely, so stiff upper lip, sing God save the Queen as you die for your *country* stand tall as you slump over, hold your head up high metaphorically because you won’t physically, but most importantly think of Nelson and Bringland will rise again and be the Empire we know we deserve to be and it’ll be fantastic and a great opportunity to make Bringland great again, so get out there and get sick

God save our gracious Queen Dah dah de dum de dum make Bringland great

Oh, over 65s and sick people “We will remember your sacrifice”

jfngw

There are two ways to achieve “herd immunity”:

1. You vaccinate a lot of people and the ones that did not get vaccinated get some level of protection they generally they come into contact with those have been vaccinated.

2. You let the disease run it’s course through the population, with, in this case, letting 2% die and another 10% or so become disabled to varying extents through damage to their respiratory system. Then, when a similar disease comes along at some time in the future it does not spread so easily.

Since we barely have working tests, never mind a vaccine, the UK Government has chosen the latter approach, even though aggressive containment (lockdowns) could at least reduce the severity of what’s coming.

However it’s not clear that herd immunity would work in any case (which is why it’s ignorant and utter bullshit to even be talking about it) since, from the research so far, people shed large amounts of virus in the first few days well before they show any symptoms and they still appear to shed the virus after they appear to be cured.

As a result your chances of escaping infection due to “herd immunity” are probably slim indeed.

Why did Sturgeon decide to do the right-thing, but delay its implementation for three days over the weekend, only to be completely up-staged by the non-governmental sporting bodies? Allowing schools to remain open is a further indicator of what can be expected from a government that has yet to realise that what was admissible a week ago has been comprehensively superseded by real-world events.

Oh and why do I say plague capitals of the world.

Well in the US there are around 11 million undocumented migrants total outside of receiving any health care. Then there are 27 million Americans with no health care. And then there are the hundreds of millions struggling to afford health care and purchase a visit to the doctor.

Taken with Trumps decision to disregard the threat on economic grounds it doesn’t take an Einstein to realise how the US could be heading to a health holocaust.

And in the UK. Well things might be only a little better. The Hostile Environment and the use of doctors as point of audit for the Home Office and Border Agency computers to identify migrants will also be playing its part here in keeping people away from medical services.

And that, together with Jonson having downplayed the need for intervention and virus spread controls until such time as maximum economic advantage had been secured by the elite few, will no doubt have done for us here too.

But as I say, the sheep don’t care. They weep at their dead, and carry on as before. Truly Orwellian, I remain consoled by the fact that we are so much Better Together.

And yes, even if the sheep did wake up, the elite have the guns, and would not hesitate to use them.

Joseph O’louain.

Sturgeon delayed because in truth she takes her cue from the establishment. Sturgeon is compromised. The SNP leadership is compromised.

Minor differences from Jonson and the Westminster Government, but only minor to try and show that she’s different. Like Independence. Says she wants it but walks different from the talk.

Scotland very own Vichy government in Edinburgh.

Ireland is handling this with more robust and earlier actions. So are many other countries e.g. New Zealand.

The Cummings government seems to be taking the same approach as Italy, only reacting when it’s too late.

Does anyone honestly not believe that an independent Scotland, with all powers held in Holyrood, would not have also taken a more appropriate course for Scotland?

Bottom line …. people will die because they voted NO in 2014, and they are going to take a lot of YES voters with them!

There will be a reckoning once this is all over. If Scotland fares worse than Ireland because we are being dragged down the wrong road (again) by Westminster, NO voters need to think long and hard about which future is safest!

I wonder if all those hedge fund managers are getting a bit jittery and having a word?

‘Boris, old chap this isn’t how it was meant to be… sort it it out and quick.’

The monster holding back the green thing. Too late the hero!

PS:
Worth a look at link to scotgoespop.blogspot.com

Racoon virus thread 🙁

PMJohnson taking back control, as the biggest fool to ever hit the big time, and all he has to do is act naturally.

stumac

I gave up on the National fairly early on when I saw articles by David Pratt – that told me all I needed to know.

BOJO’S NEXT BROADCAST TO THE NATION

*Looks bullishly into camera*

“Some of us may die.
Remember, statistically
It is not likely to be you.
All flags are flying fully dressed
On Government buildings – the sun is shining.
Death is the least we have to fear.
We are all in the hands of God,
Whatever happens happens by His Will.
Now go quickly to your shelters.”

After this completely callous abdication of responsibility and display of utter incompetence in dealing with the coronavirus threat, how could anyone in Scotland vote for these sociopathic Tory creeps?

The Scottish Government must take its own measures now to protect the people of our country. Following fully the WHO advice will save lives and help to contain the infection and a small country like ours could do this so much better. Testing and following up chains of infection appear vital in fighting the virus.

i’m sticking with the National- where else can I read the views and analyses of Shona Craven, Kirsty Strickland, Kathleen Nutt and Peat Worrier? Where else to learn of the activities of Yes Groups throughout Scotland?

Coverage of the Salmond trial – does the National have a pass to attend? Is it worthwhile attending? And to date Craig Murray certainly hasn’t, I wonder why.

The treatment of Sheridon, and currently Assenge do not encourage me to have unquestioned faith in the judicial system of the UK. And why oh why did the Scottish legal profession give credence to the UK Supreme Court?

Today’s figure 121.

Remember, those counted in the last 24hours were infected around a week ago. There are folks our there who have the virus, but don’t know it yet.

The figure is growing exponentially by just over 30% per day. That is the same growth rate seen elsewhere at this stage of minimal restrictions.

Any measures taken now won’t have any effect on the growth for at least a week.

“Am I the only one on the planet who sees this government’s 2 chief medical and scientific advisers as none other than the London artistic duo of the truly surreal Gilbert and George?”

No, Frank. Well spotted, and G&G would be just about as useful in their approach to this medical emergency.

Tinto Chiel, that is exactly the poem which went through my head when the pillock was giving his dying loved ones ‘speech’.

@Dorothy Devine/TC –

Haven’t seen it before. Who wrote it?

These numbers of infected are all baloney now.

I assume the official figures are only those ‘notified’, so presumably only those being treated in hospital.

Certainly in various other countries, if not yet UK, those who have chosen to self-isolate cannot be in these figures. There is no mechanism to collect those numbers.

@galamcennalath –

Cheers. Hadn’t seen that before.

😉

Weekly shop done.

I wouldn’t say it was panic buying, but tinned goods in both Tesco and Sainsbury’s were 80% depleted. Not bare, the expensive brands had stuff left, but tinned beans were gone, tinned meats and fruit were all well down.

Not panic buying by any stretch, but folks are clearly stocking up for hard times. Didn’t notice anybody coming to blows over bog rolls.

No problem with actually getting anything, except tomato purée. That’s either because folks are putting on big stews or pots of chilli to last a while without going to the shops, or it’s for day 65 in the bunker when the foods all gone and you’re reduced to sookin’ tubes of tomato purée.

Only thing I doubled up on was dog food….. oh behave. For the dog!

Now that I think however, I wonder if it was a Napolina factor, and all the Italian tomato stuff running short because Italy is on lockdown… hmmm.

Or Breeks will keep the dog going once the purée runs out…

red sunset says:
14 March, 2020 at 3:45 pm
These numbers of infected are all baloney now.
I assume the official figures are only those ‘notified’, so presumably only those being treated in hospital.
Certainly in various other countries, if not yet UK, those who have chosen to self-isolate cannot be in these figures. There is no mechanism to collect those numbers.

UK has now stopped testing, except in the worst cases.

We’ve all become lab rats in some rabid, fascist eugenicists’ wet dreams about culling the old, vulnerable and weak by “herd immunity”. Total bastards!

But never mind, we’re Better Together!

US to extend coronavirus travel ban to UK says BBC news also Eire

Breeks

Brilliant!!! 😀

Breeks bragging about having freedom of movement to go shopping. I’m still choked wi’ the cald so self-isolating in case it’s the dodgy yin.
So looks like a week or two of carrot and onion soup with chips n chutney dip produced from all the veg I grew last year.
Huvnae touch that last muckle parship yet so probably get a few days soup out of it tae, plus I could throw in some of the hunners of big beans from the runner beans I kept for seed so that’ll keep me going.
Rhubarb beginning to sprout now so puddings not far away.

Breeks 4 March, 2020 at 4:32 pm

Weekly shop done.

I wouldn’t say it was panic buying, but tinned goods in both Tesco and Sainsbury’s were 80% depleted. Not bare, the expensive brands had stuff left, but tinned beans were gone, tinned meats and fruit were all well down.

Not panic buying by any stretch, but folks are clearly stocking up for hard times. Didn’t notice anybody coming to blows over bog rolls.

No problem with actually getting anything, except tomato purée. That’s either because folks are putting on big stews or pots of chilli to last a while without going to the shops, or it’s for day 65 in the bunker when the foods all gone and you’re reduced to sookin’ tubes of tomato purée.

Only thing I doubled up on was dog food….. oh behave. For the dog!

Now that I think however, I wonder if it was a Napolina factor, and all the Italian tomato stuff running short because Italy is on lockdown… hmmm.

I do my shopping in Lidl and only get the occasional bit of shopping here and there in Tesco. I had to laugh when I had saw they were limiting four packets of pasta to one person. Who buys that amount of pasta. I went into work and people said there was panic buying of that.

The absence of tomato stuff is to put on the tons of pasta that the muppets have lieing in their spare room. I mean what possessed them to buy all that? Do they honestly think they are going to eat dry pasta for weeks on end?

I’ve been more to the shops lately as I need to get messages for an elderly relative. I can’t prove it but I do wonder if these empty shelves is as much to do with artificial shortages than it is to do with panic buying. Case in point, went for a carry-out last night and the bevy shelves were empty except for the cheap own brand rut-got. A very convenient way to shift the rubbish.

That’s a conspiracy theory anyway but I do think this social media is at fault for giving out this nonsense. People will not be able to get in their front door because of all the pasta and bog roll stored up and it will be thrown out in a week or two time and they will be eating out of the local Chinese.

In the coming weeks we will see Sturgeon shine, whilst johnson is revealed for the clown and charlatan he is, a dangerous clown!

Why?

Sturgeon by her nature, upbringing and education is people centric, whereas johnson is johnson centric!

I’d encourage those on here taking uniformed pot shots at Sturgeon over inconsequential topics to shut up and get behind our leader, a person with decency in abundance along with political acumen!

The agenda has changed, we are in unchartered waters, who gives a fig what your beliefs on someone’s sexuality are, get real!

As for the elderly and vulnerable folk who contribute on here, stay safe and huge best wishes during this most difficult of times!

Must say however the idea of having Black, Smyth ,Sommerville et all at the helm of an independent woke Scotland running with this public health crisis gives me the willies. There in lies the clue – we will never get Independence until we attract and encourage the right sort of politician in sync with the Scottish people. Historically, Scotland has bred a disproportionate amount of top drawer politicians, inventors , scientists and professionals of every description yet the right sort are not coming through and when they do they get squashed. Honestly if we encouraged the right talent we’d romp towards Independence.

When are the Scottish government going to introduce health checks at our borders ? If the overseas holiday industry down south is going to be shut down , with Spain now going into lock down , then come the spring /summer months where is everybody “ darn souff” going to go on holiday I wonder ? ( Scotland’s open border might save the hospitality industry but if infection rates are significantly different between Scotland & RUK what then ?). I note that the New Zealand Government are asking all arrivals entering the country to “ self isolate” for 14 days.
Perhaps Scotland should just “ declare independence” now ?

@ Smallaxe at 5.48: thanks for posting the link to Dominic Cummings saying on film that Tory MPs don’t care about poor people or the NHS.

What I don’t understand is why poor people and NHS supporters vote Tory. The latest poll for Westminster voting intention is 50% Tory. Terrifying.

Tories and their advisors. They must believe we are all thick. Well, truth is, England did vote them in so maybe the are right with their assumption!

‘Herd immunity’ …. FFS …. with no vaccine and no program for immunisation, you achieve herd immunity by survival of the fittest! The weak die and the overall quality of your stock improves and is left immune to future outbreaks. Acceptable farming practice? If it were farming, they’d be done for animal neglect!

These barstads want to apply their eugenic theories, it seems!

Media calling them out? Of course not.

Some folks on here just don’t get it, only the SNP backed up by ‘The Yes Movement’ will get us over the line!

Suggestions of alternative vehicles at this stage are nonsensical and counter productive!

United we rule divided we fall, let’s get real and learn from the forces that oppose us!

“Some folks on here just don’t get it, only the SNP backed up by ‘The Yes Movement’ will get us over the line!

Suggestions of alternative vehicles at this stage are nonsensical and counter productive!”

Agreed, but tell me what do we do, if the FM and her close clique don’t really want independence what then?

Sturgeon blew the best chance we’ll ever get when Westminster was in complete dissary over Brexit for over three years.

BoJo needs the City Banking system to keep the UK afloat. The UK is unique in that it depends so much on one localised endeavour. The workers in London commute mostly by train. Perfect ground for any contagion to spread.

The UK is unique also that it is the only country not following WHO recommendations.

Please Nicola, follow WHO suggestions in spite of London. The Irish Republic has 14 days self confinement and schools etc closed.

Follow them and watch the divergence of fatalities between Scotland and England.

You will have compelling evidence then for Independence.

I’ve said this before on this site and will reiterate it. I’m a soft yes voter where I will be vote for independence when the push comes to the shove but my instincts are gradualism.

That would put me in sync with the current SNP leadership and I should be happy with their current strategy. Even with a gradualist strategy, they are just too meek, accommodating and too damn polite. They should be pushing and prodding Westminster at every opportunity to get power devolved from them. That certainly isn’t happening.

I read on this site that there is the fear that Westminster will abolish Holyrood against our wishes. Given the sovereignty that we Scots have under Scots law, that won’t happen. However, Holyrood could be abolished could happen if enough Scots give Westminster the permission to do because it is irrelevant enough to the lives of ordinary Scots due to it’s limited powers.

If done properly, an alternative independence party could rejuvenate the SNP but it could also destroy it. That is why it needs to be done properly and with the right people on board who knows the political system and knows the proper strategy. One of these people could be Alex Salmond, providing his political and personal reputation survives the court case.

Regardless of who is involved, it is a big risk and people not to seriously do some thinking on the idea before they commit to it.

PacMan says.

I have thought of this senario for years, a political party needs something to force it to stick to its principals.
Look at the Labour & Tory parties morphed into two versions of the same thing, only different in name.
The SNP are now in the position of Labour a few years ago getting comfy with their position. Time for another party to hold their feet to the fire, after all we are all in the same position, get Indy done by any means at our disposal, if that means shoving SNP off their arses to show some action so be it.

I think this would be as good a time as any, and a good excuse for us to just declare Independence, based upon the simple fact, Scotland is not being able to properly protect itself because the UK Govt is making it difficult, if not near impossible to do so.
It is totally unacceptable, that the airports don’t have proper screening in place for those coming back from other places.
Nor is it acceptable DWP Secretary Therese Coffey tells claimants it is up to the “discretion” of the DWP advisers. I was not impressed with the Coffey statement. It was well short of what was needed, and still creates a fair degree of confusion, and uncertainty.
And this “Herd immunity” is as has been well pointed out, all about allowing as many as possible to get this new Flu as most will get better soon enough, but of course some, a lot even? will die, as the UK Prime Minister tells us they will…. and well, that’s just a bit of a pity!
If the First Minister really, really did want us to be Independent, (but we wonder at times) then she would act over this one particular emergency.
She doesn’t need any other excuses in fact, and waiting around to see how it all pans out, I don’t think will go down well, if it turns out very badly.
The First Minster will stand accused, alongside Boris Johnson, of not having protected this country, as she ought to have done.
Now, I know, there will be some who say we shouldn’t use this as an excuse for floggig Independence, tho it seems okay for the pro 1707 mob to use this as an excuse not to be Independent!
But when we are dealing with the wellbeing of our country, and see how we are being left to flounder by UK, there does come a point where we no longer sit back and take it.
That point has come many a time recently, but this is certainly such a point, now.
As others have also said, being too timid, being too polite to Westminster, and not wanting to rock the boat, has to come to an end.

How come Northern Ireland are going to close schools for up to 16 weeks, very soon on the advice that Foster is receiving from their(NI) chief medical officer, they are asking parents and schools to prepare for closure.

But we ‘can’t’ consider this as an option here because we are part of the UK, well so is NI and their devolved gov is about to take these steps, there is no excuse for Scotland not following a different tack with this.

I urge everyone to https://www.writetothem.com our MP’s and MSP’s citing the below article stating that NI are prepared to follow WHO guidance is stemming the spread of CV.

link to theguardian.com

Dr Jim says: 14 March, 2020 at 7:45 pm

@PacMan

I’m afraid Alex Salmond will never see the political light of day ever again in his lifetime, because even if he’s innocent, he’s guilty, they’ve made sure of that, they’ve applied the no smoke without fire rule, he could be found innocent of all charges with wings growing oot his back and a glow roon aboot him and he’d still be guilty

My mention of Salmond was done after a lot of soul searching and careful thought.

Professionally, I have and will always respect Alex Salmond for what he was done for people of Scotland, both as a politician representing their interests and as the leading figure in the independence movement, which wouldn’t be where it is now if not for him.

However, I do feel troubled by his personal behaviour. I haven’t followed the case but from what I’ve read, including Grouse beaters post on it, it’s obvious that while he isn’t guilty of any criminal offences, he has a distinct lack of respect for woman.

You can say that it was part of the culture of the time and everybody was doing it but is that really an excuse? There is no doubt that that sort of behaviour was the norm in men who held positions of power but how many men didn’t?

I fear you could be right that Salmonds political career is finished even if he is acquitted of this charges but he could possibly redeem himself by publicly apologising for his behaviour and admitting it was wrong. He should also participate in counselling and attend courses to ensure that he is fully aware of his past actions and that there are not acceptable in this day and age.

I know some people may think that is too PC and I’m one of these white knight types for the feminists but lets be honest about it, while Salmond is a brilliant politician, it is a bit of a sleazeball and if he is too be in any position of authority, he needs to be aware that the behaviour he exhibited in the past is just not acceptable now.

Effijy says: 14 March, 2020 at 7:01 pm

A relative works right next to a chap who tested positive
Her company advised her to come to work Monday unless
You have a fever and cough.

They claim the office has been deep cleaned over the weekend ?
Who inspects Deep Cleaning ? Would minimum wage cleaners
Take shortcuts when in fear of their environment.

She could do her work from as she does on some occasions
Ibut they won’t have it?

The company is very wealthy but obviously want to see the workers
Live and taking risks as they make even more money.

The official statement from where I work is that if there are any reported positives in my workplace, it will be shut down.

However, while I can’t go into any specifics on a public internet forum, other statements made in relation to this crisis and comments made by senior figures, suggests that may not happen. The whole response from management is beginning to sound like corporate double talk and smoke and mirrors. The bottom line is having people off work is going to cost the company money and they won’t do that unless people are literally dropping like flies.

With this and what is happening at Westminster, it is a sobering and rather depressing thought that we have been reduced from human beings to economic assets that are either a benefit or a cost.

@muscleguy same here. Saudi has closed all land borders (1 week ago), all Schengen and Gulf flights were cancelled last week, and as of tomorrow ALL international flights are banned.

103 cases so far here, up 13 from yesterday so hopefully that is a sign of it slowing.

@K1 who asked
“How come Northern Ireland are going to close schools for up to 16 weeks”
Arlene Foster didn’t say WHEN schols would close, only that when they did, it would be for 16 weeks.

Since its St patrick’s Day next week most schools have days off, if not the whole week. Some schools that hadn’t planned the entire week off are now doing so. Many parents are just not going to send the kids to school if and when they open on 23rd.

In all honesty, I think Scots, like the Northern irish, will just have to take things into their own hands and do what’s needed to protect themselves and their loved ones.

As I write, breaking news on the pandemic coming in from an EU TV station!
From midnight,France is going on total lockdown, like Spain and Italy
You heard it first here!

Here’s the latest from Italy

link to eurofree3.wordpress.com

Rock the boat?

So Brexit is going to cost us 8% of our economy, subjugate our democracy, subjugate our sovereign authority, take all our oil, and expose our population to a global pandemic which some predictions put at between 2% to 6% fatalities, potentially 300,000 people, and see out culture subjected to indoctrination while denied the right to broadcast for ourselves, and citizens in our largest city will be exposed to nuclear waste pollution in the water, and they want Scotland to take on a third of their debt.

Split the difference and say Corona virus kills 4% of us. World War Two only killed 3% of us, and that was over 5 years. Five years of WW2 did lest damage to Scotland than 2020 in the UK is promising to do, – and it’s only March!!!

And our puny gutless government still can’t pluck up the courage to hold a puny referendum because it might not be legal enough ??? Where the fk is our perspective? This isn’t a nation, it’s a fucking doormat.

What kind of Nation is it that let’s a neighbouring country fuck up it’s economy to THAT extent, and does sweet fk all about it except girn for the cameras at PMQ’s? A nation of invertebrates that’s what. Not a spine to be seen. We’re not even claiming for a foul.

Westminster was threatening WAR with Spain because they hinted at joint possession of Gibraltar. All out shooting war, just for that.

The whole World mobilised an invasion because Iraq invaded Kuwait to swipe their oil. Scotland? No, no, no, help yourselves, please take the lot. Pay for it? Oh no. Just keep the lot.

Scotland? Fk it. Here, let me lie down under your tank. Make yourself at home and help yourself to whatever you fancy. Kill our wildlife just for fun? Go right ahead. Knock yourself out. This is Scotland and we don’t care about anything except blokes in a dress using ladies lavatories.

Impeach these useless fuckers in Holyrood and get ourselves a proper fucking Government.

Why is the UK doing the exact opposite of the rest of Europe when it comes to Corona? I can’t work out why. Just to be different? ‘We’re out of Europe, so we don’t do what they do’? Why??

France, 30Km from the shores of the UK goes into lockdown at midnight tonight:

France has announced the closure of all places “non essential” to public life including restaurants, cafes, cinemas and discos from midnight Saturday.

“We must absolutely limit movement, meetings and contacts,” French prime minister Edouard Philippe said on Saturday evening. Food shops, tobacconists, banks and public transport will remain open, he said.

Philippe said the measure was being imposed after another meeting with the country’s scientific committee.

The announcement came as Jérome Salomon, director of the French health authority, confirmed the WHO’s assessment, that Europe is “the epicentre of the epidemic”.

“In France, we are confronted with the start of a national epidemic with a rapid and intense spread in numerous zones,” Salomon said.

So why is the UK fucking about with hairbrained fucking schemes such as ‘herd immunity’, keeping schools open because kids are less likely to be affected and all this shite?

And the silence from Mrs. Murrell is fucking deafening too.

” dakk says:
14 March, 2020 at 1:02 pm

Beautiful graphics of the virus Chris.

Perhaps this figure could feature in future Scottish heraldry if it helps expedite independence.

Certainly most young people on the street are quite sanguine about the bio weopan cleansing the planet of the’boomers’.

Sad thing is, some young people won’t be spared this either.”

Apparently 10% of under 15 year olds in Scotland suffer from asthma – they are in just as great a dangers as us oldies. Just that, at that age, you think you are immortal.

Idiot Boris Johnson!let it run its course,the people do not matter,we were dragged out of the E.U. to rescue their offshore accounts from investigation,money to these greedy parasites far more important.The Scottish Government people are more important even the poorest.Two months out of the E.U. this Dictatorship already borrowing billions,when these bastards should be returning their taxes (£13.Trillion) to cover these loans,LONDON LOANS nothing to do with Scotland.Whilst wrecking Scotland,when I am out talking to others over 90% are for independence.The Tory parasites bought the election with Russian money,or dirty money!

—Just—- Because —-Scotland 🙂
If you can afford it
Gordonstoun in Moray is generally held to be one of the world leading schools.
It was founded today
March 14th in 1934..
One of it’s most notable alumni was Roy Williamson ( of the Corries ) composer of
“Flower Of Scotland” . ..runner up 🙂
to Auld Land Sygne 🙂 as Scotland’s National Anthem 🙂

Read this one from Robert Peston.

link to itv.com

” The prime minister’s adviser, Dominic Cummings, has also initiated conversations with Uber and Deliveroo about taking food to the old and vulnerable when they are put into forced isolation “

Please excuse the link folks, fallen foul of the http:// stuff.

Doesn’t matter only melancholy Bruce Springsteen tune, although I am feeling far rom melancholy….

Don’t want to be found burned in a spiked tar barrel…so will haud my weesh……

for now.

Mist001 @ 9.19

Herd immunity is the deliberate misuse of a collective noun. The correct description should be flock immunity. The tory establishment view the rest of us as sheep to be manipulated to further their own personal greed. What does it matter if a few thousand die, or even tens of thousands, or more?. £s matter more than lives and suffering in their contorted world. Their “strategy” has nothing to do with saving lives and everything to do with saving their wealth and that of their uber rich backers. As has been said before its “The economy stupid!” Nothing else matters to these disgusting blood suckers.

Being half English myself I feel I have the right to question the sanity and morality of those south of the border who consistently vote for these evil bastards. They either have their noses in the trough, are masochists or are just plain stupid. A description which also applies to those north of the border who vote for the dark side. I do not accept that crap about “we will never win over soft noes with language like that”. They have had plenty of time to wake up and/or mend their ways. We will reclaim our independence soon and these people will either have the choice to join in and make Scotland everything it can be or go south and never return.

I agree with Mist that the silence from Sturgeon and co on this subject has been deafening. They are rapidly losing the trust of the Scottish population. Speaking personally, and as an SNP member until 31 January this year, I would only ever vote for them again if their was no other independence candidate on the ballot paper. Even then I would be grinding my teeth as I did so.

I see the british blue parrot trolls have been shamed into silence by the british ‘herd immunity’ policy this evening.

Who’s the ugly boys then?

Squaaach!

@Breeks (9.08) –

I’m getting as fed up saying ‘hear hear’ to your comments as you probably are writing them.

I nominate you and Liz g and Dorothy Devine and Ronnie Anderson (and that’s just aff the tap ay ma heid) to stand as candidates for the WOS party. And if Rev decides he doesn’t want to go ahead with it, let’s just find another name and do it ourselves.

The support is right here, even if it’s relatively quiet at the moment. And it’s ‘out there’. We’ve all had enough ay this pure pish.

Please consider it, if you haven’t already.

😉

F1, the FIA, and the Australian Grand Prix.
Initially the FIA decided to run the race.

The Guardian says: “This is a banal enough abdication of responsibility at the best of times, such as over controversial decisions on regulations. When it came to a public health threat that was claiming lives around the world and F1 being in a position potentially to increase that suffering, it seemed extraordinary, almost a denial of basic human empathy in favour of swallowing the platitudes the sport was telling everyone and of which it had falsely convinced itself.”

“When asked his opinion why the race (Australian F1 Grand Prix) was going ahead he (Lewis Hamilton) was caustic.
“Cash is king,” he said. “I can’t add much more to it. I don’t feel like I should shy away from my opinion.”

As with the FIA, so also the Johnson Government, Cash is King. Public health means very very little. Tory driven Austerity for the majority proved that, if proof were needed.

The bottom line is Johnson represents the English Establishment. No one else.

As an aside.

Went to Lidl Patrick after work tonight.

Heard a woman on phone saying ‘aye I woke up and a’hve got a bad cough and and a sore throat’.

Gave her a wide berth the whole time I was in.

She only ended up behind me at the till.

You couldn’t make it fucking up.

Lucky white heather.

She did have some kind of black face mask on to be fair.

Self isolation ain’t happening’.

@ Mist001 on 15 March, 2020 at 12:11 am:

Well said! And so much for all the pish they used to spout about how we all should be “acting as if we were already independent.”

I’m not convinced by any of this stuff being promoted as something more serious than a bad winter flu year.

I could be wrong but it’ll take a lot to convince me certain folk, both north & south of the border, are not making the most of this situation for their own benefits.

What you point out is something i hadn’t really noticed until now because when this started i thought: “that’s it we’re fucked, London will work this to take away any initiatives we have, there will be no indy in my time” etc.

Now witnessing the absolute shambles London is making of it i started getting another glimmer of hope, but not too much. That coupled with what you say takes that hope that little bit further.

But then my feet are back firmly on the ground due to having zero trust in Sturgeon to utilise the whole scenario in Scotland’s favour, regarding indy. Time will tell but once the trust has gone it’s almost impossible to have it back again.

“It and Mrs. Murrell now have blood on their hands.”

Completely bonkers.

How can the sane commenteers on this blog assert themselves against idiots such as Mist001. It brings this blog into disrepute.

Like many others, I don’t bother posting here very much nowadays, since the blog host indicated he doesn’t want to hear what I have to say. I suppose the above comments from Mist001 and his ilk are more congenial to the anti-SNP faction which now dominates here as well as everywhere else in the MSM.

There are some outstanding exceptions. Well done the stalwarts who keep on posting the pro indy message. If it wasn’t for you I wouldn’t bother coming back to check.

You know who you are. 🙂

Well said Capella

“China’s falling rate of new infections could make it a case study on how to bring the coronavirus under control. It still accounts for more than half of all global Covid-19 cases, yet it has almost capped them: while China has recorded a total of 80,945 cases, that was up by just 22 on Friday. By contrast, Britain announced 208 new cases.”

link to inews.co.uk

“BEIJING (Reuters) – The Chinese city of Wuhan, ground zero of the coronavirus outbreak, reported just five new cases on Friday, the second day in a row the tally has been less than 10, while no locally transmitted infections were reported in the rest of the country.”

link to uk.reuters.com

The northern town that recorded Italy’s first coronavirus infection has offered a virtuous example to fellow Italians now facing an unprecedented nationwide lockdown—that by staying home, trends can reverse. Infections of the new virus have not stopped in Codogno, which still has registered the most of any of the 10 Lombardy towns in Italy’s original red zone, but they have slowed.

When news went out this week that there had been zero new infections in the previous 24 hours, media hopes of eradication were exaggerated. But the trend appears to be real

link to medicalxpress.com

Looks like things are going to change…soon:

‘Elderly could be quarantined for four months in ‘wartime-style’ mobilisation to combat coronavirus, writes Robert Peston

People over 70 will be instructed by the government to stay in strict isolation at home or in care homes for four months, under a “wartime-style” mobilisation effort by the government likely to be enforced within the next 20 days.

It is part of a series of measures being prepared by the prime minister, health secretary, chief medical officer and chief scientific adviser to prevent the health service from “falling over” and to save lives as Covid-19 becomes an epidemic in the UK.

Other measures already being planned include:

the forced requisitioning of hotels and other buildings as temporary hospitals;
the requisitioning of private hospitals as emergency hospitals;
temporary closure of pubs, bars and restaurants – some time after next weekend’s ban on mass gatherings;
emergency manufacture by several companies of respirators that would be necessary to keep alive those who become acutely ill;
the closure of schools for perhaps a few weeks, but with skeleton staff kept on to provide childcare for key workers in the NHS and police.
People over 70 will be instructed by the government to stay in strict isolation at home or in care homes for four months.
People over 70 will be instructed by the government to stay in strict isolation at home or in care homes for four months.

According to a senior government source, the perception that ministers are reluctant to make difficult and costly decisions to battle the virus is wrong. It is simply that the chief medical officer Chris Whitty and the chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance are waiting for the optimal time to force restrictions on our way of life that will be very painful.

They are deeply worried that some older people will simply die at home from neglect, after they are quarantined, so want to start the quarantine as late as possible – some time within the next five to 20 days.

The prime minister Boris Johnson and health secretary Matt Hancock are counting on neighbours and friends to rally round to make sure no one is neglected. “We are looking for a huge community effort,” said a source.

According to a senior government source, the perception that ministers are reluctant to make difficult and costly decisions to battle the virus is wrong.

According to a senior government source, the perception that ministers are reluctant to make difficult and costly decisions to battle the virus is wrong.

The prime minister’s adviser, Dominic Cummings, has also initiated conversations with Uber and Deliveroo about taking food to the old and vulnerable when they are put into forced isolation.

As I have written in previous notes, all government efforts are based on the assumptions that there won’t be a vaccine within a year and that everything has to be done to protect the collapse of the health service.

What keeps ministers and officials awake at night is the fear that if the epidemic becomes too great they would have to make appalling decisions, such as that the NHS would stop treating people over a certain age, such as 65.

“Everything is aimed at making sure the NHS is not overwhelmed, to save lives and to prevent hideous choices having to be made,” said a source.

Plans are also well under way for doctors to give consultations to patients quarantined at home by video links over the internet.

PS. There are two other aspects of this wartime mobilisation

1) Army hospitals will be used.

2) Lockdowns of cities or parts of cities have NOT been ruled out.

link to itv.com

@twathater

Don’t think GRA is on many peoples radar right now. Nor is griping about the SNP and Nicola Sturgeon.

How about an uplifting post or even a cheery tune 🙂

Frogesque 5.33,

Funniest post for a long time on wings.

Let`s ignore the trolls and push for Indy. Despite all the negativity I feel the Yes movement is stronger than ever. Independence is coming very soon !!!

Aye right
Thanks for all your knowledgeable posts on the virus.
It’s a pleasure to read something sensible in contrast to all the conspiracy theorists and prophets of doom.

Positive news – a new smear test will screen for the human papillomavirus (HPV). It means many women will only have to go for cervical screening every five years rather than every three.

Less positive – Trans women can’t take the test because er..they’re not women. So I can imagine GRA implications ?

@ Capella:

“It and Mrs. Murrell now have blood on their hands.”

Health is a devolved issue. The SNP and Mrs. Murrell are in complete charge of it. They have done nothing except follow what Westminster is doing. One person is dead.

At the very least, that’s a dereliction of duty. Westminster devolved Health to Scotland and the powers are not being used.

I respect of me being anti-SNP, I am VEHEMENTLY anti Mrs. Murrell and the SNP in its current form. She and they are bad for Scotland as evidenced and bad for independence as evidenced. They need chased out of Holyrood and replaced ASAP.

Finaly for now. In your deperation to brand me a ‘yoon’ or anti-SNP, you may have missed the fact that I identified a path to ndependence via this Coronavirus crisis.

And that’s a damned sight more than you’ve done.

Mist001 says:15 March, 2020 at 6:56 am

For a troll, you’re not that good.

I’m sure quite a few posters on here think you are 77 brigade. If you are then they must be really desperate. Saying that the Scottish government is the sole cause of Coronavirus death, which while deeply insensitive to the loved ones of the victim, makes no sense whatsoever considering the same thing has happened on many occasions the world over in countries with the full access of sovereign states as opposed to Scotland with only limited devolved powers at it’s disposal.

As the crisis develops, I’m sure you will stoop lower and lower.

Ayeright says: 15 March, 2020 at 1:17 am

Coronavirus is and always has been one of the most common causes of what we call the “common cold”. The other virus responsible for 50-80% is named rhinovirus.

So it’s been around like forever and different strains emerge all the time. I’ve no idea if this particular strain is far more virulent than normal or more deadly.

What you should also know though is that for the past 5 years the average number of deaths attributed to flu related illness is around 17,500 in the UK. Flu is seasonal so that’s around 3000 deaths a month over the winter period.

So far it’s being reported that 21 people have died in the UK due to Covid-19, is it possible that the media and governments are over reacting?

I have no idea of that either of course, worth looking though at the figures for new cases per day in China and South Korea which have dropped to a handfull. Less than 20 for days now in China.

No doubt the lockdown there has stopped it but we can’t know if it will increase again when restrictions are relaxed. Thing is just over 80,000 in total are reported to have contracted the disease in China from a population of 1.6 billion. Thats an infection rate of 0.005% which is quite a bit away from an 80% infection rate.

I also don’t believe that only 110,000 or so have caught it worldwide when there are so many “famous” people being reported as having caught it. I’m guessing that millions have it and that we don’t even know that it started in China. That was just the first place they decided to look at it and identify it.

I’ll say again, coronavirus has always been one of the most common causes of what we call the “common cold”, this is just another variation as often happens since viruses mutate and that’s why the flu vaccine changes most years.

Will this end up like other panics such as mad cow disease, bird flu and salmonella?

Let’s hope so.

Every year large numbers of people in the UK get immunisation jabs so that it protects them against seasonal viruses which could be deadly against them. There is no such precautionary measure against Coronavirus.

At the moment the virus is at an early stage here but in other countries it is at a more advanced stage where hundreds, if not thousands have died. If the virus didn’t behave like a normal one and occurred randomly throughout the year, how many of these victims would have survived now?

Part of the reason why there are so many deaths is because countries health services are not designed for such occurrences where so many people require its services in a short period. It isn’t even possible to have back up plans to have the resources to deal with one if they wanted to.

For most of us, including myself touch wood, it will have the same effect as a “common cold” but for more vulnerable people, it can be deadly. It is a sensible precaution to stop the spread of the virus in order to ensure that the NHS is not overwhelmed and ensure victims can get the proper treatment to increase their survival chances.

Surely you can see that?

Mist001

Mon-sewer, you are a lulu!

Just watched a BBC clip of Bojo wearing a blue dust coat in a Lab
Showing us how to was your hands or not as the clown now demonstrates.

Being in a Lab, the water can be turned on and off with your forearms
So that germs that may be on your hands are not transferred to taps
And so that when your hands are clean, you don’t need to touch contaminated
Taps to turn the water off.

Bojo of course uses his hands to grasp the lever both on and off?
He now needs to dry his hands and a roll of paper for the purpose
Sits on an adjacent stand, which he now grabs?
He puts a hand on top of the stand while the other pulls off several sheets of paper.

That is germ transferred on to the lever, where other germs may already be present.
Washes his hands and then returns to pick up any germs again and transfers them on to
The paper dispenser’s frame.

Now he can stumble around the Lab and hospital spreading germs on everything he touches.