Wings Over Scotland

Not worth commenting on.

Almost makes you want to introduce a license to vote……

No wonder Vince’s business is struggling!

Would you let someone like that fit your tyres?

He does however represent the mentality of many people in England who gulp in the daily dose of propaganda from Westminster politicians and UK OK Media.

Vince, your wheel nuts are loose, your Tread is bare, and
your economy is punctured!

Please start on that Borders post just as soon as you like!

White rabbit time. Like rabbits in the headlight. Going down the tunnel. This just runs and runs. Inbred breeders eating themselves. A feeders paradise.

Faradge resigns as leader of UKIP.

Maybe he is going to be anointed unelected PM by unelected Murdoch. Laundered cash. Crooks spoiling the broth of the witches brew. Telling Fairy Tales and nonsense. Cruelly de Ville. Black spots out.

How many more scalps will fall. Cutting up their noses to spite their face. Twa faced losers. Vacant coupons. More and more incredible.

Does his company do fencing? Perhaps he’s not as daft as he seems! It could be a big job for him!!

Not often you make a typo, Stu. Should it not have been Vince from Hell?

Actually, I feel a wee bit sorry for Vince. He’s only saying what he believes, and what he believes is what the gutter media have been telling him all his life: “Scotland is part of England, everything bad is the fault of foreigners, and plebs know your place , your government will decide. Rule Britannia!

Classic example of having an opinion on everything yet an understanding of nothing.

More rubber between his ears than on the rim.

Little england personified. See ya.

I saw this on the Revs Twitter-in feed thing, I immediately felt so sorry for him, no doubt he is in for a slagging, after all he is just cannon fodder, his world view honed on a diet of miss-information, lies and the “All Hail the Daily Mail”, “immigrants that’s who’s to blame”, well it gives the Jews a day off I suppose!

To be fair to him, I have members of my own family and friends, who have been bitten by the same scabby rabid dog, look on in pity, not anger.

“If Scotland doesn’t want to be a PART of England we should just let them go and build a fence right along the border.”
That sums up the majority of English opinions of Scotland. We are a wee piece of England which should just do as it’s told. A the Union? You can feel the love, can’t. You.

The drivel that is Call Kaye spent the morning extolling the virtues of Brexit, asking those who think we should all get behind it to call in (only them apparently), and she started the programme with comments from Suzanne Evans of UKIP. I don’t know what she said because I swore a lot and turned it off, but listening to some of it later it seemed that most of Scotland voted Leave and can’t wait to get the fences up. Perhaps Kaye had a secret agenda in picking her callers but I may be wrong…
If this guy is anything to go by, being told to make the best of it and go with the vote of the majority in England is tantamount to throwing ourselves over a cliff for nothing more than the reasoning of morons. This guy in the clip has very little going on between his ears and a woman I saw on C4 news on Friday voted Leave because ‘with all the migration going on, we’d have to build 250,000 houses every day just to keep up with all the foreigners, and then they’re taking all our jobs’.
Can someone in the SG take responsibility for monitoring the tripe coming from Pacific Quay, and try to fight for some balance in this neverending river of lies, damned lies and twisted statistics?

Quite happy!! Let England do all the work for an independent England and by default we are free!! YES!!

I had been depressed by prospect of Westminster simply refusing a second indyref – their agreement before the first one setting a precedent. Ruth’s latest comments are heartening but I still believe they’ll ultimately refuse. A ballot in which the No side refuse to recognise and participate in would in theory require a majority of the entire electorate which is a very high bar…

There, in that clip, you have it – the English viewpoint: “Scotland is part of England”.

This is what 300-plus years have brought them to; we do not have a United Kingdom, there never was a Union of two nations or countries.

England owns Scotland and we are an ungrateful bunch of subsidy junkie Sweaties for trying to say otherwise.

Time we left them to their own devices.

I used to work in the tyre trade. I may be wrong, but, as far as I can recall, the only British or even English manufacturer of new tyres still operating is Avon. All the rest, even the perennially English Dunlop, are foreign-owned.

Sure, we make Michelins in Dundee, but, the parent company is French; Uniroyal is German, as is Continental, Good Year, who own Dunlop, Firestone and BF Goodrich are American companies. We have various Japanese companies – Bridgestone, Kyoto, Toyo etc trading here. Pirelli, who make the Formula One tyres, are Italian.

Friend Vince is in the hands of foreigners when he sells his tyres I am afraid.

But, never mind, he got a winning ticket in the lottery of life – he was born an Englishman. Rule Brittania.

Aye Right, as we say here in the West of Scotland.

Just one thing that struck me right away …Why the Union flag if you just want to be England….

Craig MachAonghais says:

“As she put it, “I just don’t understand why Scotland wants to “leave” England – after all we’re ALL English”. Jaw-droppingly astonishing comment”

For decades I have adopted a standard comeback when someone says something like that. I reply … “You French are all the same”.

To which you almost always get reply correcting you, “I’m not French”.

Which opens the opportunity to say, “and, I’m not English”.

Point generally made.

o/T

I see the National is back to SNP bad. Conspiracy theory eh?

galamcennalath says:
4 July, 2016 at 10:44 am

Scotland part of England. Confusion like that is probably more common than we think…

Yes, and it seems to have been the case in the EU too – until Nicola Sturgeon did her brilliant charm offensive in Brussels last week…so many ordinary Europeans probably did not give it a second’s thought until Brexit and our emphatic remain vote. The realisation that we are a country and not a county is sinking in fast.

Roll on Indyref2.

O/t but not by much

Farage has resigned. He wants his life back!

But don’t worry he’ll reverse it tomorrow.

I see BBC Scotland are doing a special on what the brexit vote means for Scotland. The application form for being in the audience is attached. From what I can see the only thing they don’t require is a copy of your fingerprints and a sample of you DNA.
link to archive.is

Faradge resigned as leader of UKIP. Skeleton’s in the cupboard. Blsckmail. What will come out? Finances. Illegal Offshore Trust fund etc?

Osborne cuts corporation the worst thing he could do. He already does nit collect enough taxes. This will leave another shortfall which will go to wealth tax evaders and his associates.

It is like the IndyRef1 in Scotland. The winners lose. Big time.

Angela Eagle will fail and have to resign,

Even the Greens who lie and collude with Unionists. The status quo and renege on their own policies, wasting public money are at it.

The Unionist/Green Party are disgusting. Puppets. Total liars.

Trouble is Vince, your thinking is all fucked up. Sorry mate.

The Westminster/Unionists and they Parties are mad. Completely and utterly insane. They are mad. They are certifiable. They are driving the economy and the public insane. Giving people worry and mental, health problems.

Wealthy Andrea Leadsom whose brother in law gave £800,000 to the Leave campaign doesn’t like rich people?

Macca73,

The union jack is used interchangeably for England and ‘Britain’ by the English. In their eyes, England = Britain. Scotland Wales, N.Ireland are just the colonies they own.

And They are right.

They can keep their blood soaked Union Flag to represent England if the want, It doesn’t even have the correct colour of the Saltire in it.

Number 10 : Hey Nigel how about doing a bit of these negotiations with the EU??

Nige: Excellent idea. I’d love to.

Number 10: Just one wee problem – you can’t be the leader of UKIP if you do – toxic brand and all that, sorry old chap.

Nige: No problem.

Nige: ‘I hereby resign as leader of UKIP’

Poor Vince from Hull has been used. Shame on the journalist who egged him on, for she knew what his responses would probably be.

He is typical of a type of English voter who has been lured in by the Brexit promise of being how it once was – jobs for all and British pride restored. Ending immigration and British industry restored. I will point out that not all the English are like this – many are very sympathetic.

…” I though Scotland was part of England, but it’s quite obvious they don’t want to be”

Scary thing is, there are a good few that think Scotland IS part of England. I’m tempted to offer to help him build the bloody fence myself, but feel a considered response in explaining why many Scots feels this way is the best answer to comments like this.

And they wonder why we want independence?

marydoll at 11.00

I’ve just read my National. You must have another one.

According the North British Unionist careerist parties we are part of England and a sub species. I hope his tyres go baldy and he electrifies his garden fence.

Boris Johnson — the BoJo of Destiny — is a contemptible man, but he is not unintelligent or unperceptive. He was right to see that there is an element of Death-of-Di hysteria in what commentators and people are saying and thinking at the moment.
But this will pass surprisingly quickly. By the end of the summer, the economy will be jogging on much as it was two weeks ago. What will have changed utterly is the, partly but not wholly soap-opera drama, of politics and public life.
I don’t think there is likely to be a ‘politics of hope’ in rUK for years to come (and if the likes of Andrea Leadsom manage to create a politics of hope, it will be working towards a world that I don’t much care for).
All of this makes me all the more eager for the optimism and hope that I believe there would be in an independent Scotland. But some part, small or large, of the current increase in ‘Yes’ opinion _may_ be part of the Death-of-Di phenomenon, and when — so far as immediate economic effects are concerned — ‘it’s all blown over’, we may not be looking at easy victory in indyref2 — particularly if the English establishment continues to see Scotland-in-th-UK as an essential part of their identity. Just as poor old Vince had always thought that Scotland was a corner of England.
So it’s not going to be easy. I’m not an SNP voter, but I think that Nicola Sturgeon’s calm firmness is totally admirable. ‘If’ personified. If anyone can do it, she will.

Is the fence he suggests should be built to keep decent English people escaping to Scotland, from the far right wing nutters who seem to be infecting politics in England?

Poor Vince is more to be pitied than scorned, his opinion is a product of the media including sky that bombards him and others day in day out with lies.

I wish Vince and his countrymen and women well when Scotland and England part amicably and we can mange out own affairs!

Westminster Parliament can’t stop another Ref in Scotland. If a political Party in Scotland puts it in a manifesto and a majority of the electorate vote for it. Different Legal systems. Scottish separate legal system guaranteed under the 1707 Union agreement. Under Scottish Law the People are sovereign. The power rest with the people equally. The four estates – the crown, the nobles, the church, the people. equal. That is guaranteed under Scottish/UK/EU/International Law. The principle of self determination. To try and deny that right is illegal. Westminster can’t deny that right. That is why Cameron could not refuse. Thenhe reneged on promises. Devolution 2000 was gained under EU Law.

Davidson is trying to con people. Giving the impression she supports another Indy Ref. She is a member of a political Party who opposes, another Ref and Independence for Scotland. Cameron will be gone and he reneged on promises given. Davidson is just trying to pacify and retain Tory voters in Scotland.

The next IndyRef will be different. From where will be the opposition and funding come? There will be less opposition in Scotland and less funding for BT.

To be fair to silly Vince, there are plenty of Scots who “think” along similar lines, which is why we are still in this infernal Union.

I see the Rev’s Twitter feed is awash with Little Englanders saying, “Good riddance!” to Scotland.

We’ll just take our oil, luxury food and drink exports, access to the EU, und so weiter, and you can have all the National Debt and those nice Trident submarines.

Just sign here and it’s all yours…

Sadly, Vince reminds me of the big thick kid every “gang” had when I was young.

Egg him on to do something daft and then laugh when he did it. “Vince” would laugh as well, not realising he was the one being laughed at.

The press perpetuate this habit with willing thickos. They are praying on vulnerable folk (modern speak for big daft thickos) and it’s disgraceful.

It’s what we have come to expect from our neighbours, who think that they own Scotland.

When my friends down in NE england, one who is Irish, said ‘why do you want to seperate, yous are connected by land!’. At that point I had to tell them that France is connected by land to Germany etc. Doh!

Schools taught absolutely nothing about history, not Scottish, not Irish, not Welsh. It was all about the tudors, the kings and queens of englandshire.

Do people in england see the N. Irish as ‘english’ I wonder. The lack of awareness regards the UK (and of course the EU as was apparent on the 23rd June) and how it became so, and what it means now, is staggering. Bizarre really, considering the emphasis on the other. Perhaps Scotland is only acceptable if assimilated into england.

I sensed a kind of jealousy from friends, and family south of the border. They find it very difficult to accept that Scotland is different and think that it is arrogance, and ‘wanting it all’. It is a shame, because they seem to accept third best from their UKOK government, lacking ambition for things to be fairer and more life affirming. Hmm.

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@ Capella

“UK us a huge market for Scotland
EU is a tiny market for Scotland”

And they don’t even see the major flaw in that bankrupt argument, to wit: Indy Scotland will remain in the EU. iUK WANTS to continue trading with the EU, ergo iUK wants to continue trading with Scotland (as part of the EU).

Idiots.

@Tinto Cheil at 11.43

Agree with you that there are “plenty of Scots who think like him”.

And that was the reason for our Indy2014 defeat. How we convert these people over to our side is a major issue especially with the ramp up of MSM propaganda we are currently witnessing e.g. England is a bigger trading partner to Scotland than the EU.

We need to work at the general populace on how we are far better Independent and in the EU than out of it and part of the U.K.

That is our greatest challenge coming up for everyone of us here in WOS.

When I am in Germany and I get a German thinking that we are all English. I ask them if they are Austrian. The light bulb then comes on.

There’s educated, thoughtful and articulate English men like Vince up there and then there’s the BetterTogether Slovenia branch, going completely nuts at Scottish democracy.

Adam Tomkins MSP ?@ProfTomkins 17h17 hours ago
For the avoidance of doubt, this case is not seeking to reverse the result of the referendum. It’s to ensure its consequences are lawful.

Its mad mad mad UKOK world.

He never gave his opinion about the Muslamics

Vince’s fellow countryman Prof T does have it all sorted out for his Scotland region. But Vince wont like it sadly.

Future Lord Tomkins, from Devon, just doesn’t want Scotland to run Scotland Vince, we need England to make the big decisions for us, like tearing up our EU citizenship. Its Prof T’s UKOK democracy pooling and sharing, Slovenia style:D

link to archive.is

He said: “Scotland did not vote to remain in the EU, Scotland voted for the United Kingdom to remain in the EU.
“There’s no mandate here for any interpretation that the people of Scotland decided that Scotland must be a member state in its own right.
“So I think words matter and we need to be clear.”

Sorry Vince. You’re stuck with the sweaties for a wee while yet.

Wow this Vince is giving us Berwick back and those bits of Newcastle and above north of the tyne.

Go for it Vince, build your wall.

It means we get the oilfields stolen back without a fight too.

Unexpected Consequences AGAIN.

Ha ha – our first prospective economic refugees from the chaos of Brexit – David Cameron and Samantha!
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Vambomarbeleye says:
4 July, 2016 at 12:02 pm

When I am in Germany and I get a German thinking that we are all English. I ask them if they are Austrian. The light bulb then comes on.

Exactly! The constant drip-drip-drip UK propaganda surrounding this issue of Scotland being portrayed as a region rather than a country means it has become a given for most people. I bet that last week, after the Brexit vote, many Europeans had quite a surprise when they learned that Scotland is a country and a nation and not part of England.

When abroad, I am always having to explain this to people too.

I wonder are the tyres in his stock behind him all made in England?

Also that the tyre was a Scottish invention too, an inventor from Stonehaven, a small Scottish fishing town now covered in union jacks. Guess who think they own Stoney? UKOK toryboys.

Vimce wont like this either.

@mike cassidy –

🙂

For years I argued England’s elite don’t give a jot about Scotland other than what they can get out of it, or own, and the person in the street either thinks us not English enough, or doesn’t hold a view.

Thus, for so many Scots deciding the way to prosper is to acquire a pseudo English accent, join a golf club, and be completely blind to Westminster’s corrupt politics.

Well, it’s all there now for us to see.

What Brexit has done is to guarantee we stay in the clutches of the USA. And that’s NOT a good outcome. Indeed, it’s very dangerous.

@velofello,

Almost certainly no. 😀

link to btmauk.com

“The British Tyre Manufacturers’ Association (BTMA) supports and promotes the interests of its members; tyre manufacturers supplying the UK market from factories in Europe.”

Michelin – France, Spain, Germany
Dunlop/Goodyear – USA, Slovenia, Poland
Pirelli – Italy, Brazil, Mexico
Bridgestone – Japan
Continental – It’s in the name! Germany
Vast amounts of budget/economy tyres – China

Granted, there are a couple of tyre factories in Carlisle and Ballymena. However, they are owned by foreign companies. And where do all those “part-worn” tyres come from? Germany, where the legal minimum tread depth is 3mm. Ours is 1.6mm.

Farage ‘wants his life back’.

But Farage is still a MEP and getting paid for that (£78,000 plus expenses)! until (a) we Brexit or (b)the next European Parliament Election in 2019.

He’s not resigning as a MEP! He’s on his own wee gravy train until 2019, at least!

But what if we have still not Brexited by 2019?

Will UK get to elect MEPS in 2019 if still not out?

The way UK dragging its feet on Brexit, that is entirely possible!

Ruth Davidson, the Ruddy Rotund One,Jackson Carlaw, WATP Professor Adam Tomkins, The Queen’s Eleven Murdo Fraser, Dolly the political sheep Oliver Mundell, and his dad, and the twenty or so unelected Tory troughers sitting incredibly as MSPs, Gordon Brown, Alistair Darling , Liar Carmichael, Iain Davidson, The Alexander Brothers, Kezia, Henry, …you get the drift, all firmly believe that Scotland is a part of England. Why would this poor man’s ill educated mutterings come as a surprise to anyone?
In the Counting Houses of Edinburgh, and the Oil and Gas Offices of Aberdeen, most of the well off Establishment Defenders in the North believe that Scotland is part of, nay, a colony of, England.
Every black and white war movie depicts ‘England'(including the colonies of Scotland Wales, and Northern Ireland) fighting the Dreaded Hun.
Hull, like most of ‘North Britain’ (q.v., The Clunking Fist Brown) had its industries, fishing, and social infrastructure destroyed by Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron Clegg, and now, god help us all, Amanda Leadsom, the City Minister, the self styled Thatcher Second Coming, looks set to lead England into several decades of Ultra Right Wing neo liberal madness. The 51st State.
This poor man is only mouthing that which he is fed by the media, including the BBC, which now makes no pretence Up Here.
Our only option now is a structured UKexit, a second Referendum, and independence.
I’d love to buy Vince a pint, and talk him through some of this.
Independent Scotland will not be building walls. Far from it. Hopefully Vince will look over the border, and realise their is another way.
I hope he gets to read these comments. You are our neighbour, we are you ally, honest, Vince.

Watching news reports on BREXIT where reporters are speaking to ‘ordinary’ people in England it is amazing how many of these ‘ordinary’ people vote Tory.

If the truth really was , as many state, that England subsidises Scotland then how wise is their Tory party ?

An analogy of this would be a successful large company continually bailing out a small subsidiary company . Is that good business practice ? There is no sentiment in business . If you do not pull your weight or a liability then you are gone.

So it would be justified in arguing that the Tories are NOT managing this UK as some of it’s English ‘ordinary’ voters deem part of this UK is a liability. Does one then conclude , based on the ‘ordinary’ English voters perception, that the Tories as a government are not fit for purpose ?

So from this analogy are we to surmise that the Tories are retaining Scotland for sentimental reasons ? Are the Tories a caring government who see it as their duty to aid and bail out Scotland , the perceived weak link in this United Kingdom to the detriment of a larger nation and it’s people , namely England ?

Do these English ‘ordinary’ voters never challenge the party they support , the Tories, as to what does Scotland bring to the UK table. Do the English ‘ordinary’ voters even care or are they so wrapped up in their own nationalism that they are incapable of making any reasoned conclusion as to why their government are so desperate to keep a country who they, the ‘ordinary’ English voter, see as an albatross around their English Britannia necks.

Perhaps if the Tory government and other union parties were MORE forthcoming in what Scotland actually contributes to this dysfunctional family of nations then this subsidy argument, used as a weapon by English uninformed nationalists, could be finally exposed as the lie it really is.

However we know why the unionist political parties are so reticent in praising and extolling Scotland’s contribution and virtues to this disunited kingdom , it is because if they perpetrate the very same ‘lie’ as their ill informed English ‘voters’ then it keeps the fearful ‘No’ voters in Scotland doubting their own country’s true worth as a viable independent nation.

It is the unionist political parties who are to blame for this division within the UK and the false perceptions as to Scotland’s valuable role and contributions within the UK.

As to this new Project Fear argument , or should I say Project Threat in respect to trade between UK and Scotland being worth more to Scotland than trade with EU. Are Scots to assume leaving UK would stop all trade between them ? However England leaving EU means access to SM and on English terms only.

So the English reasoning is now the following :

UK leave EU and UK wants an amicable divorce .

Scotland leaves UK and England wants a messy divorce.

Wanting their Cake and eat it ….again !…..they should be careful …..they may choke through their selfish greediness and perpetual sense of English entitlement. Hopefully England wants will not equate to England gets.

Vince is actually quite worrying, economy wise.

Back in the 80’s, we used to drive down to Hull uni from Aberdeen and even that long ago, it was a shock to see just how far advanced England’s motorway infrastructure network was, compared to their scotland region.

Scottish motorway network was completely non existent but coming off the A1 motorway onto an 8 lane motorway straight in to Hull and all towns like it in north of England, is where our oil went.

Yet its still grim up North.

Here is part of what one unionist Brexiter who is against Scottish independence.

Wrote in one of my local papers, he urged leave campaigners to adopt the British jobs for British workers part of Gordon Brown’s speech and to flag it up to everyone of the Johnny foreigners including the Canadian at the bank of England.

The Mouseland clip is form a CBC film “Prairie Giant – Tommy Douglas Story”. He was a Canadian social democrat politician, reformer and Baptist preacher. He introduced their Health Care system. Born in Falkirk, Scotland. (Wikipedia)
link to en.wikipedia.org

The film is 3 hrs long – one for the nights drawing in. But the first few minutes of intro music and background is worth a listen.

link to youtube.com

@macca 10.56

‘Why the Union flag if you just want to be England….’

That would be because the English see that flag as the Enlgish flag the same way they see God Save the Queen as the English National anthem.

I no longer feel anger towards such comments but they are indicative of the times we live. Vince sounds like third generation misinformed The statement that “I thought Scotland was a part of England” not the UK is a result of Westminster/BBC political propaganda that has no backfired in the Brexit vote.
The imperialist machination of England still exists but at the fault of Westminster not the people of England.

Is there a list of the projects the EU is currently funding in Scotland

The sooner NO voters get to see what funding will stop and the unemployment that will follow the better.

As a starting point all EU subsidies to farms will stop – how many farms might then close

Jack 12.42

” the ruddy rotund one ”

hehehe!

See that block grant that the little Englanders can’t wait to get their hands on when Scotland gets her independence. I can’t wait to see their wee purple faces when they find out that it’s another mirage like the £350 million on the side of thon bus.

The ATL examples of how misinformation works on the grand scale.

The tyre fitting gentleman doesn’t even question the narrative or the media who sell the narrative. It doesn’t occur that the Westminster parliament is dominated by literally hundreds of English MPs and that in effect England has always plotted its own course and its sovereignty never in question. No legislation could ever pass through commons unless it was with consent of England’s own representatives. You get the government you vote for and you get the representation you vote for.

The numbers simply don’t lie. Politicians looking to scapegoat their stewardship of government however…. they do.

Its not our fault, its immigrants, or the poor. Its not our fault, its all those celts (also immigrants). Its not our fault, its those unelected technocrats in that mysterious place across the water in Johnny Furriner land. So if you’ll only vote this way and give me five more years…

Right up until they run out of scapegoats to demonize and a population has no other place to look except the mirror.

*Slow hand clap*

I suppose he also thought that ‘Scots’ were just another form of Northern English people with funny accents like Gordies or Scousers. No wonder so many of them refer to the whole UK as just England. What a Muppet.

Pre June 23 I was asked by an English acquaintance how the vote/ count was to be done.

I explained and he summarised for me, ” so all the other votes are added to the vote in England”

I said ” no, all the votes are added together but if you insist then the England vote is added to all the rest”

This is the classic example of how those with some education and some guile can lead certain sections of the population around by the nose. This guy is a classic example of Mr Ordinary.

Poorly educated,bigoted, and unable to see past the headlines on the Sun newspaper. Make you despair really.

I am sure that Vince is a source of total cringe for most decent English people.

However, we are two countries travelling in opposite directions. That doesn’t mean we can’t be friends (Vince excepted) as we take our respective journeys but we are most definitely looking for different things in this world.

‘Thick as Vince’ has a certain mince to it.

If this guy is the common englishman then god help them. No wonder they are heading down the toilet at a rapid pace of knots. Vince seems like a totally ignorant brain donor with a bit of xenophobia thrown in.

Got to get away from these dimwits asap……..

This is ingrained in their society – The Beatles sang about “The English army had just won the war” in A Day in the Life and my favourite band Pink Floyd sing about building ships on the Clyde then “Oh Maggie, Maggie what have you done to England” in A Post War Dream.

English people who know me, know Scotland is a different country 🙂

Will Vince le Mince take Dr Jim’s advice and even do a Farage and jack it?

Will our beloved Rock follow suit?

This is grand stuff! Simply grand!

Ciao ciao, troops, as we Jocks bid you and your hodden, pseudo-arguments ADIEU.

Hugs all round to to the BREXITEERS.

Mummsy Thatcher cuddles @Kiss Kiss nitwits.

We love you, honest, for being such dimwits xxxxx

The eagle squawks again, but seems further away somehow!

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Can Jeremy feel the heat.

As someone says “He’s standing in the fire FGS”! 🙂
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Spectator: Fraser nelson (of the blue map)

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I see this post as a ‘man nod’,that is you see your neighbour,but do not want to engage in conversation,so issue said ‘man nod’ in the passing.

There are many reasons for this one being that you may think he maybe ‘ a throttler of the purple headed yoghurt slinger’ a ‘ruiner of gratton catalogues’.

I make no judgements on this particular gentleman,that would be unfair,the example quoted is in reference to the many trolls that invade this space,I have no wish to witness the sound of their one hand clapping,so do not even merit a ‘man nod’.

Vincent,please accept a ‘man nod’…..Sky News/BBC…supporters/purveyors of Onanism you can GTF.

“Agree with you that there are “plenty of Scots who think like him”

And that was the reason for our Indy2014 defeat. How we convert these people over to our side is a major issue especially with the ramp up of MSM propaganda we are currently witnessing e.g. England is a bigger trading partner to Scotland than the EU.”

Which brings us back every time to how we defeat our Nemesis, the utterly corrupt BBC, TheItalianJob. We have to have a plan for dealing with it, because Indyref2 is their last chance saloon and they know it. All stops will be pulled out and a colossal shit-storm brewed up.

As for Vince, and all the folk in Cornwall, Wales and the NE of England who voted overwhelmingly for Leave, I would ask, “Where’s all the money you used get in EU regional aid going to come from after Brexit?”

They won’t get a bawbee from Londinium.

Spoke to the lad who farms the land next to our house. He is solidly Tory and Unionist – voted for Mundell and for Hector Monroe before him. He told me that he was very upset at the prospect of losing the farm subsidies from the CAP. I commiserated, and said that the only hope was for an independent Scotland in the EU. He said he was afraid that I was right!

Faced with choice of the UK out of the EU, with zero chance of Westminster making up the subsidy, he would have to vote for Scottish independence.

I never thought I would see the day. Great stuff.

Is anyone keeping tabs on Tony Blair?

I mean, physically. Do we know if he’s still in the country?

We’re in the final countdown now – if he feels that Chilcot has let him off the hook then that may explain why he hasn’t legged-it.

Ah ha! Vince from Hull? Very very dull!
Apart from his obvious cranial starvation he also states that his business is struggling because of the EU. No, Vince, if you learn just one thing in life please learn this, your business is struggling because it’s owned and run by a moronic ignorant twat.
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The BBC weather forecast yesterday informed us that there would be a good start to the week with one or two scattered showers but affecting very few of us. LIARS . It’s been absolutely chucking it down non-stop where i am for over 2-hours!

Robert Louis says:
4 July, 2016 at 11:19 am

The union jack is used interchangeably for England and ‘Britain’ by the English. In their eyes, England = Britain. Scotland Wales, N.Ireland are just the colonies they own.

And They are right.

Yes, politically speaking, Scotland is just a region where our votes count for little.

If we had an accurate union jack, where the colours were in proportion to the populations, then we would see a giant England flag in the foreground, and a little 8.2% sliver of a saltire in the background, and a 2.8% sliver of the ?Saint Patrick’s flag.

Anyone know how to make such a flag in photoshop ??

Last week, C4 news were in Holland explaining how much the Dutch hate the EU too, just like you do, dont you, yes, you do Vince, the Dutch too, they hate the EU etc

Anyway, here’s my Slovene girlfriend btl rancid The Graun just the now, calmed down a bit for a change.

Where’s the evidence that Jeremy Corbyn is to blame for Brexit?
4 Jul 2016 14:36
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Corbyn showed in very many of his statements starting from his Labour leader campaign that he very poorly understands the very basics of the EU and what good the EU is for the UK. His statements also showed that he does not really follow the events in the EU.

Moreover, Labour supported this idiotic Brexit referendum which was in itself a doomed project, based on the UK trying to use the referendum as a tool to blackmail other EU members.

Well, other EU members have said very many times over several years that this is not going to work. The Brits have been warned very many times BEFORE Cameron called for the referendum not to walk down this path (including warnings that the UK will sink into racist hysteria), but they arrogantly refused to listen – including Corbyn.
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This week, the Dutch parliament REJECTED the demand of Geert Wilders to hold a Nexit referendum – here:
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Only 14 of the total of 150 [Dutch] MP’s supported the motion for a Nexit referendum, the 12 members of Wilders anti-EU Party of Freedom PVV and two MP’s who had separated themselves from the PVV.
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You better google Geert Wilders, since he is one of the very few allies of the Brexit UK in the other 27 EU members. What a nice person.
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Now compare the above to this (June 2015 – a year ago):

The European Union Referendum Bill easily passed during a vote in the Commons last night by 544 to 53, with support from Labour MPs giving the motion a majority of 491.

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Seems to me that other EU members have much more intelligent MPs than the UK, even if quite many people vote for dangerous demagogues like Geert Wilders. Thankfully we have representative democracy to shield people from harming themselves (does not apply to the UK).

It was not all Cameron’s fault after all, was it?

The whole Brexit affair is a total blunder for the UK, with the whole world watching

@revjimbob

Brillianr! That one your thinking of is over the ‘Hill’ 🙂

Political panel to discuss Scottish future after Brexit vote
But not the one you might expect.

SNP should now be telling the BBC and us, if you cant have a balanced 2 v 2 debate, excluding Britnat Campbell as its never going to change, then no SNP attends.

No BBC balance, let them get on with it.

Hyslop’s going to get slaughter by Harris alone, who has no concern for stuff like worrying about his electorate thinks of him.

Will Harris call Salmond Hitler tonight?

link to bbc.co.uk

The Labour MP for Glasgow South said: “Having spoken to Johann, I have decided to step down from leading the party’s social media review.

“The video I posted has been a well worn joke used to parody a range of public figures.

Johann who?

Don’t pay the bbc tax. Let britnats pay for britnat propaganda. The SNP must boycott the bbc.

Vronsky: “What is the point of this post, Rev? It’s easy to find idiots on any side.

He’s condemning and insulting a country and its people he doesn’t live in or mix with, but feels should be annexed.

And he’s on the infamous List: link to wp.me

Don’t tell Vince

link to noz.de

If our children and grandchildren in the world still want to have a voice, then it must be a common European voice. Even the strong UK or Germany are alone not find a stronger voice.

Tricks with the Tories, self-destruction in the Labour Party, triumphalism at the UKIP populists. Who can be in London contact for the rest of Europe?

That’s their thing. We should not interfere. You must especially watch out that it now does not come to the disintegration of the United Kingdom. The EU will certainly Scotland, if this part will emerge from the UK and enter the EU.”

Google translate left out “The EU will certainly….Scotland” important bit, unfortunately.

BBO UKOk land most important news, top slot:

Chris Evans leaving Top Gear.

Oh wailey wailey, viewing figures drop to 1.9M, shit program, shit presenter. More wailey Dailey. 11 minutes, Klenex shares though the roof.

Ye gods, is this really what we have come to?

Oh BTW, that other chancer, Farage has run away too. Vince will be distraught.

Mr McGinty’s goat a vision for Scotland to flourish.
Hope he’s right.

link to archive.is