Simply Nothing To Be Done
We’ll be honest, readers, we’ve spent most of the last five days sorting out our iPod music library. It’s a task that would make Hercules wince. 2,700 tracks infested with title case and all sorts of other grammatical catastrophes by crappy algorithms (there are songs on there categorised as being by variously “Adam And The Ants”, “Adam & The Ants” and “Adam and The Ants”, FFS), incorrect attributions and missing artwork.
That involved dealing with (shudder) iTunes, the worst piece of computer software ever written by humans – at least until its replacements, Apple Music and Apple Devices, which we had to switch to when halfway through the process, iTunes simply stopped recognising music at all.
(As far as we can tell, it’s now exclusively for managing podcasts.)
We could easily pen you 2000 pretty spicy words on the hundreds of different reasons why everyone who’s ever contributed to the creation of these monstrously dreadful, hateful apps should be thrown into a sewer full of rabid scorpions, and the main reason we’d do that – other than saving ourselves a fortune on therapy – is that it’d still be more interesting than writing about this complete and utter pishdrivel.
The only notable thing about the hilariously pompous “memorandum of understanding” that these two collections of shameless grifters signed up to at the weekend is that The National managed to find a couple of pages of space in its Sunday issue for it, since it’s got absolutely nothing to do with Palestine.
Their coverage contained the ground-breaking revelation that a political party ostensibly committed to the pursuit of Scottish independence and a “grassroots” activist group ostensibly committed to the pursuit of Scottish independence had – and they literally held the front page for this – agreed that in the coming months and years they were both going to… pursue Scottish independence.
(Perhaps marginally more interesting was the admission that 10 years after the indyref, this was apparently the FIRST time the SNP had agreed to collaborate with anyone else on that goal.)
Spoiler alert and everything, but precisely nothing will change as a result of this non-development. Contrary to the report, the Yes movement will not in fact be getting “back together and back on the front foot”. The “2014 Yes family feeling” will not be returning. There will be no “reuniting the movement”.
(The only thing currently uniting anyone capable of actually achieving anything is how much they despise the useless hustlers of the SNP and BiS.)
The SNP will briefly dangle the indy carrot to get re-elected next May, and BiS will continue to solicit “folding, not clinking” money to produce a couple of leaflets nobody will read and provide a comfortable income for Gordon Macintyre-Kemp.
(We’ve heard nothing since June 2024 about their grand plans for a “Scottish Citizens’ Convention” that would deliver indy in a jiffy.)
So we hope you’ll forgive us, but we’re going to keep trying to track down the covers for a bunch of obscure 7-inchers from 1989 by The Pastels, because at least with that there’ll eventually be something to show for the expenditure of energy.
If anything significant happens in Scottish politics, rest assured we’ll let you know, readers. But don’t hold your breath. Because if the hopes of independence are pinned on the SNP and Believe In Scotland, we’re expecting a pretty quiet next half-decade. If you’d like to hear more about the monumental force of molten evil that is Apple Inc and just why it loathes its customers so much, on the other hand, just say the word.
Make Believe in Scotland.
Precisely. Total make believe.
‘Partner up’ for Indy. And dance the night away.
In 6 years time it’ll be ‘pucker up’ for Indy. And smooch the night away in romantic bliss.
In 11 years time it’ll be ‘lawyer up’ for Indy. Divorce proceedings commence.
I can feel a Begbie moment coming on.
Less for the fact that the SNP and BiS are grifting charlatans, and more for the fact that (far too many)people will keep on falling for their pish.
The human capacity for denial is quite incredible.
have you tried link to musicbrainz.org ?
Rigor mortis delayed a bit longer.
I made the mistake of buying an Ipad pro…..I’m with you Stu….I’m tearing out what little hair I have left just trying to get it to work the way I want it too, As opposed to the way they want it too.
“Good News – Tractor production is up in the Soviet Union” is essentially every headline in The National that isn’t about Palestine. I’m amazed it has the budget to keep employing people.
It’s one of yours.
I’ll see your iTunes and raise you SonicStage by Sony. A monumentally clumsy piece of software demanded by Sony in the mad days of MiniDisc. But yes, iTunes is also an abomination. Luckily I used to be a Windows man and so my catalogue of over 7000 tracks (all in FLAC format) is correctly tagged via Foobar2000. When it comes to music Foobar2000 is without peer. Oh aye, Scotland is finished.
I really hope faecal incontinence comes to them all while they’re still walking the streets…
Not my streets though.
Thought I was going to be drowned by the tidal wave of cynicism that washed over me when I read this yesterday, the pity came just in time after reading some BTL comments, including, “I’m a member of both and have been waiting for this day…”
Looks like the SS Gravyboat is on track for another lengthy cruise, while the Indy movement Cadaver is reanimated for just long enough for it to make open water.
Good grief!
Stu, you are incredibly mealy-mouthed with this piece. You need to grow a pear.
Written on my ancient iPhone.
Have a look at dbpoweramp & perfecttunes for your digital music needs. I believe that there are trial versions of both, they also seem to run on something called a “mac” might be of use to you.
I don’t have a Mac. I’m not a COMPLETE arsehole.
But yesterday ended up well for you: Aberdeen 4 [FOUR]: 0 Dundee.
Without wishing to start a good old fashioned flame war, there’s nothing wrong with Macs, and on the older ones, iTunes is perfectly tolerable, not so much the newer versions. iTunes on Windows is a true abomination however – Apple should hang their heads in shame for that.
I’m happy to say that I am almost free of all things Microsoft now that I’m retired, with only an old laptop to run Excel on as we need to use it to run a club scoring system involving macros. It’s a hideous mess but still fractionally preferable to the SNP as it does mostly produce results.
Over the last eleven years the SNP have done everything possible to squander and undermine the drive for independence.
Squandered Brexit, squandered the super SNP majority in Wesrminster, sunk in 2021 a super independence majority in Hollywood by promoting an SNP 1 and 2 where 1,093,000 SNP list votes delivered 2 MSPs whereas the same vote for ALBA would have delivered around 25 MSPs and a super SNP/ Alba majority of around 90 indy MSPs.
Then of course the SNP and government under Sturgeon tried to destroy Alex Salmond on charges of which he was fully exonerated.
And the Yes movement. That too was allowed to wither and die, The actions of the SNP are therefore crystal clear in their desire to stymie independence.
But now, all of a sudden, with no plan, but a Hollyrood election a big hurrah and blast about a memorandum of understanding with some something called believe in Scotland to resurrect Yes and push for indy,
Pure and utter pish if I may so inelegantly opine,
Get an Etch-A-Sketch.
So when Jobs died that wasn’t karma then?
I think I will just stick with my record player as this listening to individual songs malarkey will not catch on.
Rev./ any chance it’s here: link to eu.rarevinyl.com
Stu.
I have oozles of sympathy with you over the issue of Apps,
I just spent 4 hours trying to contact via telephone to my local branch bank to make updates in personal details, this sent me to a foreign Country whereby I had difficulty understanding the accent,
They eventually directed me to go into my nearest branch 50 miles away to do this, obviously not having a clue that there are no train stations or railways near by, no regular buses that I have no bus pass for,
And my car is in the garage because it can not apply for modern parts under the climate change mantra,
However this also happened last month with a dodgy internet system, someone very very far away with another unrecognised accent was telling me to go online to access the internet problem. that is not working, Doh.
If we ever get Scottish independence the first thing we should do is bring accountability back home to our shores,
And to make Banks,
the Councils,
a Scottish parliament or convention,
garages,
to get doctors appointments,
contracts for ferries,
broad band,
media,
Ombudsman,
Justice and law,
Police,
etc remain in offices and remain locally, where can access them and they are there locally to answer how they are failing,
Apps and online appointments have to be de- centralised, no more distance between the people and the source of a problem.
A lot of sympathy for you Stu,
the phrase “distant learning” has taken on a new meaning, ” no access ” for local remedy.
You are not alone in this, James C. I too have had to waste weeks trying to get straight answers from the RBS. And many many other people say the same.
I agree with your solution – go back to local offices/branches. I could go further – we managed perfectly happily, in fact better, with paper files, than with “paperless” offices.
Sarah, just email Paul.thwaite@natwest.com (the chief executive) and your complaint will get dealt with as a matter of urgency.
I used to work there and that is the way to get issues dealt with.
The ABOMINATION that is off shore call centres by companies trying to save money should be outlawed by the government , it is like pass the parcel with different call centre reps, and each time you have to repeat what the problem is
It appears rude when you have to ask the reps to slow down or continually repeat what they are saying because their accent and speed of talking is garbled
The upsurge in fake calls and scams by foreign based individuals and groups is IMO due to the amount of sensitive data accessible by these offshore companies and their former employees
«GENDER» POLITICS and now this….whatever it signifies.
Scotland land of mountain, flood and wild make believe.
How many times can you sell a country you dumbasses?
How many times can you sell a country you dumbasses?
Good question.
IMO we’ve already sold it morally, legally, politically, historically, culturally and most of what is left of our present day assets, will soon be sold too.
A “mini congress” “in November or December” says it all – 1 or 2 months away, but no date set. How very organised!
My local Yes group is struggling to keep people interested as nothing is happening – I don’t remember anything about BIS getting in touch. Lewis Carroll would be proud of this article.
In the real world, my wee pear tree grew loads of pears this year.
«BOREDOM is an instrument of social control. Power is the power to impose boredom, to command stasis, to combine this stasis with anguish. The real tedium, deep tedium, is seasoned with terror and with death»
Saul Bellow
Waiting too long for the event is why liberation movements generally give up on standard issue politics.
Oooft, a VERY pertinent point.
Describes our situation in (almost) it’s entirety.
For ALL the people bemoaning this magnificent (hahaha) exposure please remember it is in your hands to JOIN SALVO , Liberation.Scot , and Liberate Scotland, never mind what the Scotland haters on this site do to undermine our belief, just remember the absolute corrupt and despicable arseholes that they are promoting running sorry (RUINING) the whole uk, and ask yourself, IF I give up will things get any better
It is TRAGIC that we have so many BETRAYERS and TR@ ITORS in Scottish politics and the indy movement BUT the yoonion has to win every time WE ONLY have to WIN once, May 2026 can be a turning point VOTE LIBERATE SCOTLAND for VICTORY
Sounds like you’re pissed again, twatboy !
“the yoonion has to win every time WE ONLY have to WIN once”
Interesting fantasy, but it doesn’t gel with the reality of the Brexit deniers.
Before the UK voted to leave the unequal union that had us all under the thumb of the foreign governing body in Brussels, plenty of Brexiteers were promising “the EU fanatics have to win every time WE ONLY have to WIN once”.
That wasn’t true, as the continual and ongoing efforts to get us back into the EU show, so it won’t be true if/when Scotland leaves the UK.
If, like Brexit, it’s a right royal fuck up, the same voices calling for Scotland to go back will soon make themselves heard.
Sorry Twat. That’s gotta be another A++.
You are correct, of course, twathater. Holyrood 2026 can be the turning point. All it takes is for the Liberate Scotland campaign to be publicised on all main independence sites AND also publicise the way to utilise the D’Hondt system to our benefit.
I fear that Wings may leave it too late.
You’re defo onto something there, twathater, #SitePrick1 and one of his fluffers straight in below…..
“straight in below”
Oh dear, James.
Freudian slip.
You need to tak yersel in hand.
Yes James and hatey mcFuckwit is up to his usual wee sexual innuendos,mrs hatey MUST have left him due to his fantasizing
@ Twat A++ says: 7 October, 2025 at 1:55 am
“up to his usual wee sexual innuendos”
Innuendos – giggity 🙂
Bit c’moan, Twat A++. All ma innuendos are big, monstrous even, well intae “it’s gonnae tak 10 meenutes jist tae squeeze a’ that in” territory.
And Mrs Hatey’s LOVING every inch, sorry, minute of it.
I wouldnae normally want tae post aboot this, but I see it’s 1:55 AM wi ye.
Ah must hae bin keeping you up – giggity 🙂
Hateful one @ 7.18
Well as the old joke back in the day used to say; bite Mrs Hateful One on the ear to release some of the air and as “she” deflates you should be able to better manage inserting you excuse for an apendage.
Just saying an that..
@ Young Lochinvar says: 8 October, 2025 at 1:53 am
1:53 AM ?
Fucking 1:53 in the fucking AM ???
What is it with youse boys, hunched over your devices in the wee, sma’ hoors, speculatively posting aboot ma private life?
Seriously. Get yersels lives. Get yersels help. Get yersels something productive and useful to fill your empty, pathetic, pointless existences.
Find yersels a rellie who still cares. Tell him/her yer worried yer losing it. Tell him/her something has to change in yer lives, becos ye just can’t keep going on like ye are.
TH
Why does the Rev. appearing to ignore this as if it’s just not happening?
Ok, he doesn’t necessarily have to agree with it but not every article surely has to be an exercise in tearing his targets a new one.
Some measured analysis would be welcomed in the spirit of the old days and wee blue book here IMO.
I remember reading some time ago, that Gordon MK and his various businesses ie Business for Scotland, Scotianomics were all linked with the SNP and followed the SNP party line. So what’s new here apart from headlines and colour pics?
Now if the SNP were to endorse Salvo, ISP or Alba and talk about voting for them on the list, then that really would make a headline. They could even talk about a genuine Citizens Convention, not this pretendy congress.
Yawn.
I made the mistake about 15-20 years ago of installing iTunes on the PC. It crippled the machine so much that I uninstalled it less than a week after putting it on.
Godawful piece of “coding”. Maybe it was designed to cripple windoze machines on purpose.
Smoke and Mirrors that’s whats at work here! The SNP membership is calling out for the party to work with other parties to secure Swinney plan, so what does Swinney do he promotes the idea the leadership is prepared to work with others to secure his plan and Independence. The only problem is believe in Scotland isn’t a political party it’s the SNP propaganda funded tool that hasn’t achieved anything for Independence or Scotland and it never will, that’s not its goal.
Swinney throwing a bone to the rebels hoping there stupid enough to fall for this partnership, that will have no affect in next years election.
I actually don’t believe the SNP will govern next year after the election. I know the opinion polls say they will, but there is to many unknowns for me. One thing is for sure the SNP, the national and believe in Scotland have as much interest in Scottish Independence as a fly hovering a turd.
People keep saying next year all about Independence STOP BEING STUPID ITS NOT AND NEVER WAS, the Union has never been in safer hands than it is under the SNP its that simple. Next year if the opinion polls are correct and the SNP do win it’ll be the same result as 2021 the only difference is it be the last time the SNP will be able to cry wolf on Independence the party has just done this to many times.
The two things the SNP has become a master at 1, conning people into voting for them on Independence and 2 asking people to donate to the party for Independence, if you do 1 or 2 or even both trust me you’ve lost your money and they’ll never deliver Independence. They’ll keep conning you into believing Independence is just round the corner, here comes Westminster 2029 and them the circle will happen all over again.
Scots, trust me the SNP isn’t the light we are all looking for its the darkness and they know it. Next year I’m not voting for the SNP and never will, I’m not mad.
Indeed.
Fantastic performance by the National, playing the role of Jane Kennedy, Lady in Waiting to Mary I, Queen of Scots, proclaiming to all assembled at Fotheringhay that she has found a sewing kit in her purse and all will be well.
I have never voted SNP and will never vote for independence whilst the SNP are in Government in Scotland,
I’ve always envisaged the SNP disappearing up its own chuff in an Indy Scotland.
It being too broad a Kirk, or at least it used to be, to survive in what is naturally a three party political landscape, once its (former) raison d’etre had been achieved.
Now it just exists for its own sake, like a parasitic tape worm in the gut of the body politic in Scotland.
This country needs a good dose of antibiotics, and an enema.
Indy for Scotland!
SNP Out!
Sorry everyone if I took a while to respond, that is due to my going down another rabbit hole to do with my being without a car due to sales and parts and the climate change agenda trying to reduce road travel.
I thought this was interesting enough to post here for the benefit of every car owner and road user or ulez capture person paying fines.
I found it on Youtube posted by its author and backed up with good evidence. On how we are being conned.
Fuelspiricy,
You can also find him talking through the evidence to back this up on,
Geoff buys Cars.
Also on Youtube.
Thats what happens when this woman has four brothers and a dad that were all interested in cars, moterbikes, mechanics and engineers,
35 comments so far and nobody has yet shared their fears over the treatment of the flotilla activist.
Could it be people are worried the flotilla activist will be forced to sign something in an unfamiliar language and incomprehensible alphabet and then find themselves conducting suicidal assaults on heavily defended ham asshole strongholds?
Like what happens to the eejits who voluntarily force an entry into Orcland?
I’d actually buy The National to read that story! Might even use my own money.
Alexa, what is money laundering?
As I grow older and never have been taught the modern system of Apps, computers or internet due to living the middle of no-where on the west coast of Scotland as I grew up, it alway amazed the rather quick jump everyone made towards these modern technologies, missing and leaving behind a whole generation of people, that today are mostly pensioners,
I am maybe left behind a little bit more than most in this respect as we did not have electricity in the glen until I was in my teen years,
This did not mean that the past retirement age one teacher in the corrigated tin hut school in the middle of the forestry had any ambition to advance into modern technology.
Far from it,
A victorian colonial teacher in mindset whom gave you the strap or cane if you spoke Scottish words.
So the modern world for me is today is a self taught series of lessons. But is’ I am learning fast, the problem is only half my responsibility.
Everyone else seems to be having similar problems, that are a lot younger than I with these systems not doing what they were set up to do, or not as the case may be,
And directs you to foreign countries whom have no idea who is collecting your information, what it is being used for or has a inkling of your countries geographics,
Today I had to explain to the foreign accent lady ( when I eventually got through to a human) that I was not about to walk 50 miles in the rain to Change my bank details because she could not do it on line on a computer, and then walk 50 miles back home in the pouring rain, which would then include a dark night.
Problem unresolved.
Bring on independence.
O/T
I was going to post a comment over the weekend saying that these protesters seem to be daring the government to introduce legislation to limit their right of protest.
However, events overtook me and the government has indeed made announcements to curtail the right to protest in certain circumstances.
These protesters are not magically appearing out of nowhere to go to these demonstrations and nor are their banners. These are being paid for by unknown sources.
There is no doubt there are definite sources for these types of demonstrations but for those of us in this forum who know the mechanisms of the British state, I’m wondering if they have a hand in the funding themselves or looking the other way?
I’m have no doubt that the thicko’s who sadly frequent this forum are going to accuse me of conspiracy theories but guess what? Their immigration protests are going to be affected by this, probably more.
The current government has made it clear they see Reform and those on the immigration protests as the enemy. It is in their interests to curtail these protests as it is tied to their future electoral prospects.
Of course the thicko’s in here are not going to want to believe this as if it is true, they can’t accept that their beloved British state is actively against them.
@ Bilbo says: 6 October, 2025 at 9:20 pm
“for those of us in this forum who know the mechanisms of the British state”
Let me fix that for you, Bilbo, as I believe you know next to nothing:
‘for those of us in this forum who need to invent non-existent mechanisms of the British state, as it is easier than confronting the reality of why our daft ideas get no traction with ordinary Scots’
“going to accuse me of conspiracy theories”
See, Bilbo? Even you already know in your heart of hearts you’re writing mince.
“the immigration protests as the enemy. It is in their interests to curtail these protests as it is tied to their future electoral prospects”
And the armies of masked, Arabic chanters parading through the streets, Arabic pennants fluttering, are on the Government’s side in the ballot box? Ah hae ma doots.
“British state is actively against them”
The armies of masked, Arabic chanters parading through the streets, Arabic pennants fluttering, are against me. They’re against you too, unless you’re already one of them.
They’ve been trying to kill me for decades, every time I get on a plane. You too, if you ever fly. Every now and then, one of them succeeds in randomly killing a few of my people, the indigenous Brits, when they blow someplace up, or run rampaging with a knife at some kiddies dance class.
The UK government knows that if they let their guard down for even one day, the jihadis will kill them all too. So, when the time comes to choose a side, the UK government won’t be choosing the Arabic chanters.
If you’re one of the Arabic chanters yourself, then tough shit.
Yes, obviously they will be looking to stop the immigration protests.
As if people will say “oh well, ye got me – c’mon rape my weans and kill my country with immigration then”.
Immigration is an existential issue for us, so banning protests isn’t going to do any good. It’s just going to make people angrier. And at the end of the day, we’ve got nowhere else to go.
But they’ll do it, for sure.
The question is, is there a single person in the Scottish Parliament who wants to give us back our rights? They were congratulating themselves on passing Humza’s Hate Act.
MEALLADH-SÙLA
Tro ghlainne an dorais chùil
chaidh m’ aire a ghlacadh
le poit-ghàrraidh làn ùir.
Shaoil mi car tiotain
gun robh bileag uaine
a’ fàs an àirde.
Ach nuair a thug mi
sùil eile cha b’ ann
ach stob plastaig.
ILLUSION
Through the back door glass
my attention was drawn
by a garden pot of soil.
For a moment I thought
a blade of vegetation
was sprouting up.
But on a second look
it was only a green
plastic stick.
you’re not the only one …
so why is itunes shit?
apple is run by jews, rev
connect the dots; it’s a short step from non intuitive menus to bombing every hospital in the strip.
I run a very old build of winamp, the one that is green and black. 10000 tunes in mp3 and flac.
the only correct operating system to run is templeOS by terry davis, but you need to compile it yourself, before installing it on a hard drive scoured by an x ray laser, to remove the NSA/GCHQ/ADL spyware that has been implanted at the firmware/BIOS level.
… yizall are all going to get barcoded and the laser scanners will fire it all back to palantir. 1984 is not a warning, it is the playbook.
datamining is insidious, it could be the bayesian maximum entropy deep learning autoregression looks at your song choices on your playlist and CORRELATES these with the playlists of other ANTISEMITIC JIHADISTS, and they have identified you, and I am not talking just Skrewdriver’s greatest hits, Oi! and Sham69 – no it’s more subtle than that, like a bit of Wagner, eh? And that Herbert von Karajan fella, what did he do in the war??
– now remember the “exploding pagers” Those ipods could have a tiny speck of C4 in them, just enough to give you permanent migraine.
“yizall are all going to get barcoded and the laser scanners will fire it all back to palantir”
Are you sure you’re OK, Confused?
If you were your normal self, surely you would have written the barcode will be 12 inches up your rectum, and the bar code reader will be a corrugated cylinder 4 inches in diameter?
I hate to see you off colour like this, Confused. Get well soon.
“remember the “exploding pagers””
What? Forget what is probably the finest and most inspired episode of 21st century warfare so far?
Not gonna forget that as long as I can remember as much as my own name.
“all going to get barcoded and the laser scanners will fire it all back”
Are you sure you’re OK, Confused?
If you were your normal self, surely you would have written the barcode will be 12 inches up your back passage, and the bar code reader will be a corrugated cylinder 4 inches in diameter?
I hate to see you off colour like this, Confused. Get well soon.
“remember the “exploding pagers””
What? Forget what is probably the most effective and most inspired episode of 21st century warfare so far?
Not gonna forget that as long as I can remember as much as my own name.
To me Stu is the only professional journalist in the UK. He gets it. We have had to endure some daft policies under the banner of Independence. And I won’t mention them for the 50th time. Swinney was heckled, he read the room wrong. The SNP have read the room wrong since 2015.
Hud a wee look at Believe in Scotland’s website.
It’s Make Believe in Scotland.
For one thing, they’re promising to lower your energy bills, by lying about the cost of generating electricity:
Gas power stations are the most expensive to generate electricity from
No, gas fired stations are the cheapest way of generating electricity. Energy bills are sky high because we are subsidising wind farms to the tune of trillions of pounds over the next 50 years. Lying about this is why the economy is a mess and Ed Miliband is desperately unpopular.
If Believe in Scotland can’t even get simple arithmetic right — on a subject that’s vital to all economic activity because high energy prices means poverty — what use are they to Scotland? We’ve got enough Walter Mittys in Holyrood, who think you can run a modern economy on good intentions. Ye can’t.
The agreement was signed on Saturday the 4th of October in a packed Blair Blether In, the local Yes Hub in Blairgowrie.
Blair Blether In is a corner shop. They’re boasting about John Swinney attracting a crowd of up to 7 people in a totey wee corner shop. Some of those people were confused older folk who just wanted a pint of milk.
building a broad, inclusive campaign powered by Scotland’s civic voice.
Every time I hear about “Scotland’s civic voice”, I reach for my sick bag. There’s no civic Scotland, it’s deid. Self-appointed timewasters sharing their cretinous ignorance on energy policy, and Nicola’s weird wee pals on the take for taxpayer money do not a civic society make. The BTL comments on Wings are more representative of what the Scots think than all these silly wee groups put together.
John Swinney said ““More than ever, I am determined to galvanise our movement and, by working closely with Believe in Scotland, I know that we are strengthening our collective ability to make the case for independence clearly, constructively, and with purpose.
“Together, we are building a powerful alliance who believe in better for Scotland – and crucially, putting the voices of people across Scotland at the heart of Scotland’s future.””
It’s just words, isn’t it?
Silly, daft wee words, from silly, daft wee men.
They weren’t interested in the voices of people across Scotland when we told them not to do the creepy Named Person thing. Or when we told them to stop putting trannies in a women’s prison. They weren’t interested in your voices when they took away your right to freedom of speech in your own house, and they’re certainly not interested in hearing the voices of all the children who have been raped by Scotland’s imported grooming gangs. The SNP is fighting tooth and nail to make sure you don’t find out about the grooming gangs.
I should be angry about this, but I’m just tired of them more than anything else. They need to go away, and never come back. Where’s Scotland’s Nigel Farage?
Excellent post, Red.
“Where’s Scotland’s Nigel Farage?”
I’m afraid there isn’t one. We’re just gonna have to share England’s one.
Maybe it’s only fair. England’s long-suffering bill payers and tax payers are gonna have to stump up 90% of the costs of building all of those luvverly offshore turbines and the eye-wateringly expensive distribution infrastructure to take that power from where none of it is needed (dozens of miles out at sea) to where everybody actually lives and works, hundreds of miles away.
And of course, as there’s a nasty war on, England’s long-suffering bill payers and tax payers are gonna have to stump up 90% of the costs of protecting all that far-flung and difficult to protect generation and distribution infrastructure from the aggression of the Orcs.
Better together? Actually, when it comes to wind power, it’s hard to see any alternative.
Obviously, a few years back, we could have bit the bullet and said, as a mature nation and grown-up, serious people, that we will accept a raft of turbines on every ben, every dent in our hills to be dammed and generating hydro power, empty glens to be covered in solar farms, our coasts to be hoaching with tidal barrages, etc. etc.
But we valued our scenery far more than we valued our comfort and energy security, whilst we valued our irrelevant climate virtue signalling most of all.
And so here we are. Shelling out vastly more dosh for less reliable and less secure power.
Hatey, my point about Farage is I don’t understand why we don’t have a leader.
Nicola wasn’t a leader, she’s a pied piper and a compulsive liar who should be in jail.
Humza despises white people and couldn’t think his way out of a paper bag with instructions on the inside.
Swinney is just pathetic.
How is it even possible that we have 129 people in Edinburgh who are supposed to represent us full time, and not one single leader? None of them has any balls, brains or heart. None of them are for Scotland and the Scots. We know that, because when Humza and his wee pal Anas were raging against white people in the Scottish Parliament — none of them spoke up for the Scots. Not a word.
Worthless people.
Am I asking for too much? It doesn’t need to be William Wallace. I would settle for a Fletcher of Saltoun.
“I don’t understand why we don’t have a leader”
I sometimes think I glimpse the reasons why so much that seems inexplicable never-the-less just goes on and on.
It’s because all of the little problems have been solved. All that are left are the big problems and they are beyond the wit of mortal man to ever solve.
Despite all the greetin and gurnin on here, few are starving. Few are destitute. Few are freezing. Few are dying from drugs or alcoholic degradation.
The majority of Scots have full stomachs, a roof over their heids, somewhere warm to sit and enough folding money to indulge their little hobbies.
Sure, some lack most or all of these things, but for every one who is struggling there are 100 who aren’t and that 100 FUNDAMENTALLY DON’T GIVE A SHIT.
Until most of that 100 find themselves deep in the doodoo, we won’t have a leader because any leader we might find will have no followers. Disinterested apathy will see to that.
I think you’ll find that ‘energy prices are sky high’ because our covetous, perfidious neighbour to the south sold everything we [that’s “we”] own to corporations rather than following Norway’s sensible lead.
It was the Scottish Government that sold the rights to build windfarms in Scottish waters. They negotiated a hard bargain, achieving around 10 per cent of the actual value.
James I think you’ll find I was right the first time. We need affordable energy, not windfarms.
In Norway, they pay TWICE as much as households in the UK do for electricity, by ra way. So let’s not copy them, eh?
Sturgeon’s crew and their handlers made an arse of the wind power sale right enough. Small beer though, compared to what has been effectively stolen from us since 1975 and before.
You’re just making stuff up now eh, “Red”?
Scotland has the highest fuel bills in the world currently.
“Small beer though, compared to what has been effectively stolen from us since 1975 and before”
Not really believing you’ve ever had anything worth stealing.
You don’t come across as the sort who could ever have even held down a shit job, let alone achieved a successful career that would have enabled you to get on in the world.
Since 1975, hundreds of thousands of ordinary Scots who were prepared to graft have made fortunes for themselves and established solid economic foundations for their children and their grandchildren. Any Scot with a bit of gumption would have had to try hard to fail – there was an oil and gas bonanza running and even cretins were coining it in.
And all while pathetic dossers like yourself were sitting on your flabby erse, hands out for freebies, gurning and greeting that the world owed you a living.
Too bad you missed your chance. You won’t be getting a second one.
Now off you waddle and think about male genitalia while stroking your own.
#SitePrick1;
LOL. Shows how much you know.
But you made it big time eh? Corporal in the 77th.
“Once a prick…always a prick”.
If this agreement was so important, why haven’t the SNP put it onto their Facebook pages?
I believe in Scotland – it just isn’t the same Scotland the SNP and Believe in Scotland believe in.
They believe in a Scotland where indigenous Scots are to be pushed out altogether or are herded into neglected crumbling cities and tumble-down towns or bleak industrial zones while the most desirable areas of their country are given over to foreigners primarily coming from England.
They believe in a Scotland that’s governed by England as a mere region of Britain.
They believe in a Scotland where natural resources that rightfully belong to the Scots are casually plundered and parceled up and shipped to what they think of as their true mother country, England.
I believe in an independent Scotland. A Scotland liberated from a fraudulent union. A Scotland released from centuries of oppression and subjugation. A Scotland where everyone must learn to speak in the Scots leid or face imprisonment.
Believe in Scotland and the SNP both believe in a Scotland that is nothing more than a part of England-as-Britain or England-as-UK… or just England if we drop all the Great Britain, Britain and United Kingdom nonsense.
The more I think about, write down or speak aloud, the various synonyms for England – Britain or the United Kingdom or Great Britain or the UK and such – the more alien and foreign they seem to me.
I really do believe in Scotland – unlike Believe in Scotland (and the SNP) who, and this might be hard for some to believe, don’t believe in Scotland at all… unbelievable!
“everyone must learn to speak in the Scots leid or face imprisonment”
Tae saft, NC. You’ll hae tae pit some fire in yer belly.
New jiles for trannies – anes fer trans-lassies only and anes fer trans-loons only.
Bit then those normies wha winna spik the Scots leid gang tae the trans-lassies jile if they’re male – and tae the trans-loons jile if they’re female.
That’ll sort oot the Inglis-spikking cants!
[Hoo am ah daein? Will ah be allooed tae stay free – maybes wi an ankle tag?]
“SNP and Believe in Scotland Partner up for Indy”
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How does a party “partner up” with its glove-puppet?
Name tagging the people, by media and government bodies is happening both sides of the borders,
In Scotland the people have been attached by tag to the SNP, although as far back as 2015 the people of Scotland had started separating themselves from this false party, but the media run with it to this day,
The same applies to England, if you do not agree with the status quo, or support a opposition party in England your branded as far- right,
For local people of Britain , the work of funded media help calling the shots to aid and abet catagorisng the people into groups, so then groups can be banned from speaking out, or considered dangerous to the State,
Whilst non local groups often are given a priority status, a well known strategy of war for millenia is to divide and rule.
We have all witnessed the many attempts playing out in our countries over the past years.
Wether it is Just stop oil, trans issues, covid issues, far right parties /people against the status quo parties, climate change v energy supplies, and it goes on and on,
So I ask myself why the establishment pretend they can not stop little rubber boats with a army and navy, and will power, young people against aged people,
At the same time as pampering to the whim and changing laws to help the occupants of those little rubber boats with our taxes,
The adage of create a problem, ( the invasion of little rubber bath size boats, find a solution, come down hard on one side, withdraw protest permissions, free speech and introduce ID for Britain,
Or set up opposing structures that will never agree with one another like in religion to live in the same areas,
The people are being played, are actually being set up,
The divisions used by the establishment and media of create a problem, then find a solution will not end well with the intentions that the people win or gain more freedoms, it will be used as a excuse to remove those freedoms.
The people however can become wise, and play the divide and rule game too,
The nations should divide but remain friends, in every way, not unlike a community of people with separate nations.
Without the created State of Great Britain, borders return to all four nations, parliaments return to the peoples individual nations, treaties end, like the nonsense one with France, or the EU regulations.
Powers that be will try stir up animosity and problems between the friendly Communities of the peoples four nations as they did in past
This is something that the all people should always be on heightened alert too. Power to control the people will not be easily given up.
The question is, Can all four nations rule themselves and stay friends after years of hatred taught and ingrained up by constant propaganda,
Would they be capable of protecting each other, could they come together when needed to protect the Isles we all live in,
I think we could,
The reason I think this is possible, is I watched the people of these Isles come together in the march through London, all nations flags flying, in agreement to protect and Stop the invasion of small rubber boats landing on the Isles of these four nations.
And it Scared the sh@t out of the rulers and establishment.
In my life time I have ended up living in Scotland, England, Wales, three of the four nations,
They have a few things in common.
They all want to live a reasonable decent safe life, a decent income, freedom to roam and enjoy there countries in their spare time, the right to personal and private rights in there family without to much State interference, a good house to live in, better local Councils and infrastructure, employment in their area, better education and safety of their children , and towns with shops and amenities.and to retain their own culture.
I have no doubt that Ireland have the same basic needs and wants,
This is not Where our governments or devolved governments do not, have the same vision of natural born freedoms as the people of the four nations do.
I watched the media refuse to give a realistic number on the amount of people joined in agreement against small rubber boat invasions that were on that march through London and it reminded me of what they always did with the marches throughout Scotland,
Lie about the numbers, down play the numbers, ignore coverage, or denegrate the people on those marches,
People, actual people have more in common than they think, just that constant propaganda has always fed, taught and played the divide and rule card on immediate neighbouring nations sharing land borders.
With the purpose of controlling the people,
The people are being played.
The sad thing here is that I actually know one of the activists in that main photo. He is genuinely a great guy with a big heart… He lives for the dream of Scottish independence despite being born in England. He is one of the nicest people I have ever met. It pisses me off so much that they are using people like him to stay on the gravy train and taking the piss out of them behind their backs. They are laughing at him and I fucking hate them for it.
I know people in that situation as well, dedicated independence people. The people that hold the posts in the key branches are every bit as bad. Sturgeon has a fair hold over these particular types to this day. She goes from the party and many of the contemptuous, thieving posers go with her.
I gave up several years ago. Until this devolutionist Imposter Party are destroyed, we’re going nowhere. I dread to think what will happen next, but I, 100% *DO* know that it won’t be independence.
Never mind the 2026 elections which are mostly based on the least hated parties winning, not the best. The SNP is simply left as the largest remaining single party with the rest of the parties simply being detested just a bit more than them. Something I don’t understand given the mess the SNP have made in recent years, how could anybody make a worse mess?
Anyway,, leaving aside the 2026 election who seriously thinks that AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME there is a cats chance in hell of a majority voting for independence in a new referendum? Things will have to change very dramatically before trying again to have a vote on independence is even remotely likely to succeed. The view that it would AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME is fantasy.
The polls suggest otherwise, Rob. Anyone with an ounce of commonsense knows that a country that keeps its whole income is going to be better off in every single way than one having its whole income, and all its assets, seized by another country.
Let alone the sense of pride in ones own culture, and the ability to adjust the political system so that politicians are not given a free ride for 4 or 5 years, to do what on earth they feel like it.
sarah says………..
“Anyone with an ounce of commonsense knows that a country that keeps its whole income is going to be better off in every single way than one having its whole income, and all its assets, seized by another country.”
Exactly why we voted to leave the EU,sarah !
No more ££billions handed over to the faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats in Brussels !!
“Anyone with an ounce of commonsense knows that a country that keeps its whole income is going to be better off in every single way than one having its whole income, and all its assets, seized by another country”
Oh sarah, that one raised a wry smile at McHateface Towers.
Coming up 4 years ago soon, this place more or less unanimously decided that it was best for our fighting friends in the east to have their whole income and all their assets seized by their colonising neighbour.
Did you ever raise a peep about that? Ah hae ma doots.
It’s a bit rich for you or any of the other usual suspects on here to be suddenly discovering only now that imperialist colonialism might be a bad thing.
What are you all going to discover next, I wonder? That giving away tranches of your national wealth to Brussels for them to piss up against a wall is also a bad thing?
Ah hae ma doots aboot that tae.
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“Leaving the EU has had significant economic impacts on Scotland, with estimates suggesting a potential long-term reduction in GDP by around 4% relative to remaining in the EU. The exact annual cost varies, but overall, Brexit is expected to reduce trade and economic growth, leading to substantial financial implications for Scotland in the coming years.
ebsco.com BBC
Economic Impact of Leaving the EU on Scotland
Annual Costs Post-Brexit
Trade Reduction: Scotland’s exports to the EU have faced significant challenges due to new non-tariff barriers. The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) estimates that Brexit will reduce the UK’s long-term exports and imports of goods and services by about 15%. This reduction is expected to impact Scotland’s economy significantly, given its reliance on EU markets.
GDP Impact: Predictions suggest that Scotland could see a GDP reduction of up to 11.5% as a result of leaving the EU. This figure reflects the broader economic uncertainty and potential loss of trade opportunities.
Future Projections
Long-Term Economic Size: The OBR anticipates that Brexit will reduce the long-term size of the UK economy by around 4%, which translates to approximately £100 billion. This decline will likely affect Scotland’s economic growth and public finances.
Trade Agreements: While Scotland may benefit from new trade deals outside the EU, the overall impact is expected to be small compared to the negative effects on trade with the EU. The government’s assessments indicate that these new agreements will not fully compensate for the losses incurred from leaving the EU.”
Careful sam.
Every downside to leaving the EU applies ten-fold to leaving the UK.
Still, what price freedom, eh?
Haud oan, though. Why are you bleating and greeting about the cost of the freedom we gained when we left the EU?
And haud oan again. Why are you gurning and whinging about a shrinkage to our economy? How else can we ever save the environment, other than by choosing to be poor?
Do you actually have a point, or do you just enjoy moaning for the sake of it?
Haha, nae answer expected 🙂
#SitePrick1;
“…Every downside to leaving the EU applies ten-fold to leaving the UK….”
Has to be the comment of the year. Pure fcucking Comedy Gold.
@ James says: 7 October, 2025 at 9:43 pm
“fcucking”
Another Freudian slip, James?
Whoops!
Nigels moaning about the EU again …
the EU doesn’t take all your money then hand you back cents on the dollar
or
park nukes next to your cities
as for democracy, the EU was excessively democratic – everyone got a vote, which is why the english hated it, they thought they should be in charge
Farage the Golf Club Fanny explains his workings …
I was in this golf club cost me a grand a year, plus bar bills and caddy fees
cost a fortune
had to leave
club secretary and treasurer robbing me blind
– BUT YOU GOT TO PLAY GOLF, RIGHT
aye I played 60 rounds a year, all the medals and compettions
won an electric buggy in the mixed handicap
BUT APART FROM THAT IT WAS DAYLIGHT ROBBERY
so, while I have to just putt on my living room carpet now, the money I will save should let me buy a bentley, if I live to be 142
(spends 1500 quid a year going to the driving range)
the EU is a club, you pay your fucking dues – you don’t like it – you leave
– except Scotland is not allowed to leave the union; what we have is like “the timeshare deal” from Hell, where death itself does not end the contract
WHO ARE THESE FUCKING MORONS WITH THEIR COMPARISONS OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT COMPARABLE
– this is the fucking radio clyde phone in level of discussion …
whats your point caller
cammy fraser – wid de ye think ay that
and another FFS : will people stop talking about energy markets when you don’t know the pricing mechanism and how these “markets” work and are meant to work (since they don’t). Go to youtube and lookup Yanis Varoufakis. Watch vid, think about it, and when you realise you don’t understand it, just STFU.
A report came out the other day that we had the most expensive leccy in the world.
This BTL just throws up another tranche of fucking morons every couple of months.
“A report came out the other day that we had the most expensive leccy in the world”
Zat right, though?
A report came out a couple of days later saying we didn’t.
“except Scotland is not allowed to leave the union”
Zat right, though?
So a couple of hundred good and true Scots, standing at HR and at WM on a plebiscitary promise for Indy, then winning by a comfortable majority, wouldn’t be allowed to declare UDI or whatever?
How the holy jumping fuck would you and your gang of perennially whining, whinging saddoes know when every last one of your Indy movement lacks the balls to even try it?
“when you realise you don’t understand it, just STFU”
Take your own advice, or stick to posting in your comfort zones – hatred of the English and detestation of the Jews.
“Prick”.
You been taking yer empties to the recycling, James?
It sounds like yer clanking.
James when a woman uses such disgusting words it’s a Hundred times worse. Did you not know that?
Be proud of your carbon footprint. At the very least it proves you were here.
Presumably hopping as you went.
Otherwise, you would have left two.
Footsteps in the sand.
IRISH 11-YEAR-OLDS TO BE TAUGHT THEY ‘CAN BE ATTRACTED TO MORE THAN ONE GENDER’
Children as young as eleven will be told that people can be ‘gay, lesbian or bisexual’ under the Republic of Ireland’s updated Primary School Curriculum.
The Department of Education has divided the curriculum into five areas. While learning about Relationships in the area of Wellbeing, children in fifth and sixth classes will, “Begin to understand sexual orientation as describing attraction to someone of a different gender, the same gender, or more than one gender.”
The curriculum claims that it wants children to “appreciate the diversity of relationships and families”, by teaching them that “people can be attracted to someone of a different gender (heterosexual), the same gender (gay or lesbian), or more than one gender (bisexual)”. But pro-family group the Iona Institute noted that there is no explicit mention of marriage.
‘IDEOLOGY’
The Iona Institute highlighted that the curriculum’s wording “marks a shift: sexual orientation is now defined in terms of gender, not sex. Why then is it called ‘sexual’? Gender as a category is not tied to objective biology but to social or psychological identity, which is subjective and fluid. Also, what does ‘more than one gender’ mean?”
Speaking in Dáil Éireann, Independent Ireland TD Ken O’Flynn said: “Across the country, parents are alarmed at the attempt to slip gender ideology into the new primary school curriculum under the label of “well-being”.
“At a time when children face many challenges in growing up, it is reckless to add confusion and division into the classroom. Schools are meant to give stability, not be a laboratory for ideology. With regard to the reality of biology, it is a fact, to my mind, that a male is a male and a female is a female. Parents want clarity on this, not ideology.”
In response, Minister for Education and Youth Helen McEntee defended the curriculum, adding: “We are very clear that we recognise, as we should, same-sex couples and relationships and that is what we will be speaking to young people about.”
RIGHT OF WITHDRAWAL
Under the Education Act 1998, parents have right of withdrawal from “instruction in any subject which is contrary to the conscience of the parent of the student”.
The Wellbeing Specification’s Frequently Asked Questions emphasise: “Parents are recognised as the primary educators of their children and are valued partners in the education process.
“Schools are encouraged to engage openly with parents who have concerns about aspects of the curriculum. Parents who wish to withdraw their child from particular elements of Wellbeing are advised to meet with their child’s teacher and/or school principal to discuss their concerns.”
Schools must start implementing the new curriculum for the 2026/27 academic year, choosing one of the five areas to be introduced each year. The Wellbeing section must be addressed within three years.
SPHE
Earlier this year, a concerned mum warned that the Government’s revisions to the Social, Personal and Health Education (SPHE) curriculum risked children being taught ‘ideologies not facts’.
Sandra Adams feared that SPHE linked resources promoting transgender ideology would expose children to contentious and harmful ideas being presented as scientific truths.
Changes to SPHE have already taken place for pupils who started Junior Cycle in September 2023. For Senior Cycle, the changes began in September 2024 and are to be implemented for Year 5 from September 2027. Some Primary schools will start teaching the new SPHE curriculum in September 2026.
The Christian Institute’s guide to SPHE for Christian parents provides good educational and legal reasons why schools must not promote transgender ideology, setting out clearly what parents, grandparents and others can do to help ensure schools make good decisions.
(The Christian Institute, 7 Oct 2025)
link to christian.org.uk
“Parents who wish to withdraw their child from particular elements of Wellbeing are advised to meet with their child’s teacher and/or school principal to discuss their concerns”
I near fell off my chair laughing at that one.
No white, Christian teacher is going to want to meet with irate Muslim parents, intent on telling the teacher exactly what she can do with the Godless heresies she is proposing to ram down their child’s throat.
And no Muslim teacher will go near this nonsense.
I expect every Muslim family will opt out from this with the blessing of the school and the tacit blind eye turning of the educational authorities.
And every notionally Christian family expressing doubts will be told they are close to committing transphobic hate crimes and sent hame tae “think again” before it goes on record somewhere.
“There’ll be no Jiggery Popery in the provinces.”
Co-m-U-ni-ty.
😉 @Mark.
Interestingly enough, the same paragraph that Hatey chose to quote, is also the one that struck a chord with me, but for perhaps different reasons.
“Parents who wish to withdraw their child from particular elements of Wellbeing are advised to meet with their child’s teacher and/or school principal to discuss their concerns”
And as soon as they attempt to discuss those concerns they end up in the nick and their kids are taken into care. Hyperbole? Yes, but we’re NO far away from that becoming a reality.
Originated in Scotland, joukery-pawkery, then anglified in England to Jiggery pokery.
I’m sure most readers here will want to know that Liberate Scotland, the umbrella party, have a website now. It is http://www.liberatescot.scot.
Liberate Scotland has applied to the Electoral Commission to be registered as a political party, ready for Holyrood 2026.
I think this route is the only practicable way to get the best value out of independence votes. The SNP should announce they won’t stand on the list and then all Yes voters will know what to do. It is a win-win.
“The SNP should announce they won’t stand on the list”
Mind and came back here to tell us when they do!
Good to see. Looks good. I note that you cannot donate yet. I’ll keep an eye on it.
@ gm I just tried to donate – still not able to. We’ll have to stay alert!
And meanwhile down south you have to laugh at the convulsions that have enveloped the UK government and the steel industry.
The UK wanted out of the EU. The EU was the root of no end of the UK’s ire. And out the UK went. A golden belligerent future for Britain lay ahead striding tge world stage.
And so, out of the European economic union, a European free market, a common market with internal barriers removed the EU in response to external market pressures has elected to protect itself, as you would expect it to do, is levying increased steel carries.
And in consequence the UK screams in a hostile name calling frenzy. But why? Britain voted to leave. They wanted to go their own way. And they have.
Ah well, they got their way and really it’s up to the UK to cut its glorious deals around the world to Make Britain Great Again.
Another Brexit dividend. The future’s bright, the future’s Britain – eh?
The ultimate salt in the wound that followed the “No” vote in 2014, despite the majority of Scots having voted “Yes”, was the English dragging Scotland out of the EU by sheer weight of numbers throughout the rest of the UK.
Scotland voted ‘Remain’.
Northern Ireland voted ‘Remain’.
And much like in 2014 when the majority of Scots voted “Yes”, the majority of Welsh voted “Remain” in 2016, but incomers tipped the result the other way…
link to theguardian.com
“If you look at the more genuinely Welsh areas, especially the Welsh-speaking ones, they did not want to leave the EU,” Dorling told the Sunday Times. “Wales was made to look like a Brexit-supporting nation by its English settlers.”
Just as Scotland was made to look like a Union-supporting nation by its English settlers…
link to thetimes.com
What’s that line in Trainspotting when Renton talks about the English and colonisers and scenery? I’m sure it’ll come back to me if I think long enough…
It’s certainly not good news, Willie.
We need steel if we are going to re-arm. We need steel for all the manufacturing we need to maintain aspirational first-world status and be free from the hostile acts of foreign states.
It doesn’t matter who that “we” is. UK, Scotland, England, etc. These are all truths regardless.
Here in Scotland we’re hoaching with the coal needed to make great steel. The iron ore is easy enough to source. The workforce we need is lounging on benefits.
All we really lack is the political will to look reality in the face.
As to the realities of leaving a union whilst expecting all of the benefits of the former membership. England represents a far bigger share of Scotland’s export market than the EU ever represented of the UK’s export market.
If you’re laughing now, consider if you will be laughing in the future if a hostile England sets tariffs on Scotland’s exports, following the messy and ill-tempered “divorce” so many on here are all in favour of.
I’m betting you’ll be huffing and puffing and screaming “not fair” just like those south of the border are doing right now.
Isn’t that right, Willie?
What? Add tarrifs on exports that they actually steal free of charge at the moment?
Oh dear, not thinking this through properly are you.
BUT you’ll not be worrying about that hatey mc fuckwit because you’ll be down in engerland insisting that more export charges should be increased on Scots exports because that’s what tr@ itors and betrayers do, they CELEBRATE penalties and punishments being heaped on ANY indigenous peoples DEMANDING their FREEDOM
Us REAL Scots will just have to make do with trading with the rest of the world and make sure that the restitution for 300 years of STOLEN resources will be as painful as fuck
An interesting article providing details on the substance of Willie’s post:
link to unherd.com
It makes clear just how puny and ineffectual the EU is in the face of decisive actions by the world’s big players – the USA and the Covid Spreaders.
Of course, the primary reason for the EU’s puny ineffectiveness is its enthusiastic embrace of red tape. So far, as the world situation deteriorates, there is little evidence the EU wants to change tack and get real.
The article also mentions how indigenous ramping up of steel production is the route to weathering this storm. Something Scotland, under the government of a completely different regime, could do.
But not under the SNP and/or Greens.
I’d like to think sane, rational Scots will be pondering this kind of thing in the run-up to May 2026.
An interesting article that provides some insight into the attitudes and thought processes of those anonymous keyboard warriors who post on here:
link to unherd.com
At least one of the BTL comments outlines a mechanism that would eliminate all of the puerile, childish baiting once and for all.
It wouldn’t eliminate the borderline insane comments though. But they are easy enough to refute.
That will be anonymous keyboard warriors like yourself…
Ach, I can mind when you were giving me a hard time for including the stats for coal in Scotland’s geographic area because you deemed it was no longer relevant, yet now you’re highlighting its uses and worth.
Then there was time you were bragging about your quality not quantity of posts… yet here you are spamming the btl with all sorts of shite irrelevant to improving Scotland’s lot.
Still I guess your efforts keep the site engagement stats up for egotistical bragging rights whilst so many other reasonable folk no longer contribute.
Round of applause Dan!
Of course it does look as though most lurkers and commentators ignore certain posters and hurry on by.
Exactly Dan. Orc-man complaining about puerile commentators. Hilarious
Here’s what I think (aye, and I’m sure awbody is keen to knaw whit a’m thinkin, tae)…
I think the ToU is bogus – a hoax a distraction a trick a lie.
I think the ToU was the prelude to the soft invasion of Scotland by a foreign power – the ‘hard’ part of the invasion arrived on the doorsteps of ordinary Scots not long after the quilled oot signatures scribbled doun on a worthless scrap of laid paper had dried.
Or was it rag paper that was used for England’s worthless treaties back in the 1700s? Either way Anglo-treaties weren’t worth the laid or rag paper they were scribbled on – just ask any number of England’s former colonies.
The hard invasion of Scotland began in earnest when English troops were deployed and billeted in rapidly assembled military outposts and forts all across Scotland – within just 12 years Scotland was swamped in English military outposts all connected by a network of new military roads.
The ToU was soon followed by the deployment of armed soldiers in the pay of England in celebration of the new spirit of cooperation and harmonious diplomatic relations between two great kingdoms now forever bound by a non-existent yet still fair and equitable treaty of glorious union.
And to think it was only 300 years ago, just 3 x my age, a foreign military force marched across Scotland on roads built by General Wade helping out struggling Scots with domestic chores and such and all the while singing jaunty Anglo-tunes such as this one…
… whilst harmoniously and jauntily, and in the spirit of friendly cooperation between two new pals, subjugating the people of Scotland.
Treaty of Union? What a joke. Aye, and a right filthy wee joke anaw.
Economic Power of the European Union
Overview
The European Union (EU) is a significant economic entity, ranking as the second largest economy in the world in nominal terms, following the United States. In 2025, the EU’s GDP is estimated to be approximately $19.99 trillion, which translates to around £15.5 trillion based on current exchange rates.
Key Economic Indicators
Indicator Value (2025)
GDP (Nominal) $19.99 trillion (£15.5 trillion)
GDP (PPP) $29.18 trillion (£22.7 trillion)
Population 450 million
Unemployment Rate 5.9%
Average Gross Salary €3,255 monthly (£2,800)
Major Economies Germany, France, Italy
GDP of the United Kingdom
Nominal GDP
Value: £3.839 trillion
Year: 2025
GDP at Purchasing Power Parity (PPP)
Value: £4.448 trillion
Dan @ 09.06.
Always good to read your interesting posts Dan.
I see the SNP regards the continuing privatisation of energy resources as the way forward in the event of independence.
Why not nationalisation?
I got the IPod Classic back in 2004 (I think) to hold my whole collection of about 800 albums. It was a wonderful companion on the tedious daily commute into London. It still works too – but almost nothing else will work with it because of its daft connection. I hang on to it though as I can’t face organising my huge music library using Apple software.
“If anything significant happens in Scottish politics”
Neither SNP nor BiS appear to understand that UN Member State status via its Declaration of independence for colonized peoples constitutes another definition of independence.
In this respect there were 3-4 mentions of Scotland’s colonial condition yesterday on the floor of the UN Decolonization Committee meetings in New York during petitions supporting New Caledonia decolonization, from 2.35hrs in here:
link to webtv.un.org
Thanks for the link, Alf.
“The colonial power always behaves in bad faith…”
A truism indigenous Scots are all too familiar with.
Thanks, Alf.
Well said.
Oo, very interesting.
Thank you, Alf.
Have you taken donations from the Salvo organisation to fund a trip over to New York to bang on about the Kanak people of New Caledonia?
Wow !
3-4 “mentions” eh ?
Great stuff, Alf !
Thanks, Alf. It is encouraging to know that Scotland’s case is now in the consciousness of other countries.
Dream on. The great Left wing experiment has failed. Splish splash.
“another definition of independence”
How many definitions of independence are there?
Independence means decolonization, which is why the UN has two committees devoted to decolonization. And a decolonized people and territory are effectively then a UN member state. Its not that complicated, Mr. Swinney.
Regarding we need steel.
Why has no party in Scotland on both sides of the independent debate never spoken about building a new steel mill since Ravenscraig closed.
As at the time Labour done nothing to oppose or prevent its closure,which would compete with sites elsewhere.
With decolonization Scotland should shift from having the highest electricity costs in Europe to potentially the lowest, making the country internationally competitive to produce steel and other industries. This presupposes the SNP or whatever national gov would not permit the current UK energy racket to continue post independence. Ideally a steel plant should be located adjacent to ore import port for deep-draft vessels, such as Hunterston, and for export of steel products.
Cheap power is an absolutely huge advantage for any country making steel or aluminium or other such products.
Cheep power is also a huge advantage to the every increasing demand for data centres to handle every more data in the new AI world.
But Scotland gives its power away. The interconnectors heading down south tell you that. Indians with glass beads with the Alf Garnet’s down south thinking we are all subsidy junkies is where we are
Its an old saw but Scotland is the country that found oil and got poorer. And now history repeats as the new power heads south.
With control in an independent Scotland decisions to propel Scotland into the premier league of small rich competitive countries could be a given. And that is why we have been given a hobbled and hollowed out colonial parliament.
But take a history lesson and read the McCrone report
In reference to Scottish Steel. A little in the spine wouldn’t go amiss.
“The paper suggests Scottish households would be more than £10,000 better off per year if the country was independent.
It comes off the back of an assessment from the Resolution Foundation, which found UK households would see an £8300 per year bounce if the average income and inequality was the same as other countries of a similar size.
If the same analysis was applied to an independent Scotland, the paper argued, Scottish households would be £10,200 better off.
But the paper adds: “That does not mean Scottish households would instantly be more than £10,000 richer each year if Scotland was a nation state, or even that we would be as successful just by being independent.
“Instead it shows how much better those comparable nation states do than the UK, and what we might be able to do if we were able to make our own choices about the shape and direction of our economy.”
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Believe that and you will believe anything.
I wonder what would happen to the English economy if Scotland gained independence?
It would be nice to sound this out instead of the constant attacks on all suggestions given in support of independence.
You only have to look at the comments upthread to realise the abject panic that the yoonionist Scotland haters are suffering , to a man it is constant NEGATIVITY , unfortunately they don’t have the ability if they really are Scottish or live in Scotland to see the positivity that independence could sorry would bring to our citizens
IF we had decent intelligent politicians and political parties working on behalf of Scotland and its people instead of an ALL PARTY infestation of self serving, corrupt, lying, sex obsessed , deviant and perverted arsewipes just mirroring engerland we would have been independent decades ago
Like startled sheep, the Yoons can sense the end is nigh….
And it spooks them.
@ twathater says: 9 October, 2025 at 3:14 am
Bless your cotton bedsocks, Twat H. At 3:14 am, while hard-working Scots slept, you had the answer in front of you, but you still can’t quite bring yourself to admit what has to be done. Perhaps you never will.
“IF we had decent intelligent politicians and political parties working on behalf of Scotland and its people instead of an ALL PARTY infestation of self serving, corrupt, lying, sex obsessed , deviant and perverted arsewipes just mirroring engerland we would have been independent decades ago”
But, as you see yourself, because we have an ALL PARTY infestation of self serving, corrupt, lying, sex obsessed , deviant and perverted arsewipes just mirroring engerland, there’s no majority support for Indy.
Because there’s nae fecking point to Indy if nothing is going to change for the better.
So there you have it, Twat H. There’s the problem right there, as even you can see.
Make a start on fixing it.
A suitable song for current times that occurred to me this evening Barry McGuire “Eve of Destruction”.
Not cheery, obv, but a cracking song.
Funny you should say that but I was thinking more along the lines of
” I want to be sedated” by the Ramones.
Go for it, Mark! 500mg.
I was thinking more of “Far Cry” by Rush.
Some one mentioned carbon foot print,
I was laughing myself silly at that being related to Scotland, cos one of the quickest ways to reduce carbon footprint would be to rid ourselves of fastlane.
To stop war games being practised on Scottish soil.
And remove the ammo dump buried in Scotland and dumped around our shores.
And not introduce the Solar panels and wind turbines made in foreign countries that do not disintregrate, and end up in disposal dump graveyards when their life span ends,
Along with the new dangerous electric batteries.
And I have no Idea why oil & gas is Bad for Scotland, but safe to use for war wether in reality, practice or for sale through Englands financial revenue of pipe lines and ports.
Coal is another one of those commodities that is classed bad for Scotland, but we ship it through Ireland and some come from Poland I think, via ships driven by…..yes you guessed it.
Levelised Cost of Electricity (LCOE) in an independent Scotland
LCOE is a measure of the average cost of generating electricity from a specific energy source over its lifetime. It is expressed in terms of currency £ per megawatt-hour (MWh). In an independent Scotland, the LCOE for various energy sources would likely reflect the country’s abundant renewable resources, particularly wind and hydroelectric power.
Below are UK figures LCOE for different energy sources.
The relative costs of electricity production in the UK vary by technology, with renewable sources like wind and solar generally having lower levelized costs compared to fossil fuels. For instance, the average cost for wind and solar is estimated between £44 to £57 per MWh, while fossil fuel energy costs are higher.
Relative Costs of Electricity Production in the UK
Levelised Cost of Electricity (LCOE)
Technology LCOE (£/MWh) Notes
Gas-fired generation £85 Traditional fossil fuel source
Onshore wind £44 – £57 Competitive due to lower operational costs
Solar £44 – £57 Similar to onshore wind
Nuclear Not specified Generally higher due to construction costs
Offshore wind Higher than onshore Costs decreasing with technology advances
The LCOE for offshore wind is at the moment around twice that for gas, particularly if you exclude the impact of carbon prices, with offshore wind being a major electricity generation mode for Scotland. After independence, electricity costs would also certainly increase in the short term and stay higher in the medium term unless the future Scottish government either abandoned decarbonisation and adopted very cheap fossil fuel power like coal, or invested in cheap renewable generation like hydropower ala Norway (that would be my preferred option). This idea that Scotland would immediately benefit from an abundance of cheap wind power is nonsense, offshore wind is an expensive, highly subsidised power source.
I think you are wrong in some respects.
OBR expects the cost of renewables to decline over time.
There is a route to an independent Scotland providing cheap energy to its population and businesses based on renewables and storage but it requires a lot of planning and work.
Expected ELCOE Values
Energy Source Estimated ELCOE (US$/MWh)
Onshore Wind 40-70
Offshore Wind (Bottom-Fixed) 70-100
Offshore Wind (Floating) 100-150
Hydroelectric 50-80
Natural Gas 80-120
In an independent Scotland, the focus on renewable energy could lead to lower LCOE and ELCOE values, making these sources more competitive compared to fossil fuels.
Wikipedia
obr.uk
I don’t have time to debate the subject now. Maybe later
@Sam – in the future potentially costs will come down, but you also have to remember a big component of the cost of gas is carbon pricing. If that was removed, gas could still be a lot cheaper particularly than offshore wind. It’s not just that it takes a lot of planning, it also takes a lot of investment. The point is it certainly won’t happen overnight and those hoping for the cheapest electricity prices in Europe are dreaming.
If onshore wind is so expensive is so expensive Aidan why is there a hell for leather race to install as much of it as possible.
There’s plans underway right now too to build energy parks in Ayrshire and in Cromarty. Cable manufacturing facilities too.
Funny old world really. But of course North Sea oil and gas we were told was a curse, a liability and not a blessing at all in any shape or form.
In fact, its a pity that there are Scot’s actually living in this hell hole. Quite quite surplus to requirements makes one wonder if a new ” clearances ” is needed. Well clearances of the raggedy people that is. Be a fine place if they could be gotten rid of. Eh what ?
Tell that to the Abu Dhabi, Kuwait, Dubai, Qatar, Norway and i think unlike Jocko they’d disagree. But hey, Scotland sea extensive seas, quarry resources, land of agriculture, land for forestry, hydro electric, and huge fresh water resources are probably of little to no benefit.
Yes, historically gas is cheap, but not now.
An independent Scotland would have its own Central Bank.
The bigger picture (neither of us is particularly expert?) is the creation of our own grid, the maintenance of existing transmission lines and the development of new ones, the creation of a large storage system, nationalisation of energy generating companies.
@Sam – I’m struggling to see how any of those drive lower unit costs?
“An independent Scotland would have its own Central Bank”
Tell us more, sam.
What currency would they be counting in our central bank? The Great British Pound, or the Euro.
As far as I am aware, no other credible alternative has ever been advanced by anybody.
No “independent” country that uses somebody else’s currency has control over key economic levers, such as interest rates and borrowing costs. This is just first year economic facts, sam.
I asked OBR what would be the cheapest sources of energy in an independent Scotland in 2050. This is the answer.
Expected Energy Sources
The transition to renewable energy is a key focus for Scotland’s energy strategy. By 2050, the following energy sources are anticipated to be the cheapest:
Energy Source Description Cost Competitiveness
Wind Energy Onshore and offshore wind farms are expected to dominate due to low operational costs. Very low
Solar Energy Increasing efficiency and decreasing installation costs will make solar a viable option. Low
Hydropower Existing infrastructure and potential for expansion will keep costs manageable. Low
Green Hydrogen Produced from renewable sources, it is expected to become cost-effective as technology advances. Competitive
It is not just about unit cost either. There would be a great numbers of jobs in the creation and maintenance of nationalised energy sources.
Fucking debate night, some tory bastard just coming out with “french leccy is so cheap because they are on nuclear … ” – a TOTAL FUCKING LIE, BLACK, FROM THE DEVILS BACKSIDE – but no one had the wit to attack him. It’s the fuckedup market mechanism; the french made a strategic decision decades ago, if they had any oil they would not have done it. This is the problem with easy lies – easier to propagate, but pulling them apart takes more effort.
– and so people make the wrong conclusion : “if we had nuclear, our leccy would be cheap”. NO NO NO NO NO. Not in any way. You fail to understand it. It is the market mechanism which is fucked up, and we don’t need nuclear, nor will we ever, we are awash in energy (Scotland, not England). Nor is the UK capable of building nuke power plants at a decent price (- the chinese can, but let’s not go there).
Sometimes in markets, prices can become negative – e.g. you had an oil future for delivery, too close to delivery to sell and no storage – so you pay someone to take it off you (e.g. you can’t rent the storage profitably); left to its own devices, there are times when our leccy prices should become negative … i.e. they would pay you to use it! But then they turn off the wind turbines, none of that rubbish. NB you can always use the energy for something – e.g. mining bitcoin, there is no waste.
You see the trouble with public debate – the tory flim flam man doing his 3 card monte gets away with it because the audience of carefully picked windowlickers are chosen to not know anything, nor is there time to give a 2 hour seminar on the design and operation of energy markets.
– I will break it down : energy markets don’t work, but because “the market must rule”, we have people who don’t understand them (politicians) trying to set them up and doing a bad job of it. Markets only work when conditions are in place. Energy should be considered infrastructure, which is best handled by the state. If you want the cheapest energy currently you get some long term gas supply contracts (“I know a guy …”), but just to fill in the gaps of your renewables.
If politicians understood how markets worked they would be in the city, making tons of money. They aren’t, politics was their backup plan.
Infrastructure and “natural monopolies” are concepts these PPE fuckwits don’t seem to grasp – consider the ballsup the anglos made with their privatised water system; it’s full of shit. This “advanced western nation” with nukes, aircraft carriers and a seat on the security council – can’t supply water to its people; it “used the market” to solve the problem – all you got was dirty water and high prices, and some suits made out like bandits. Markets are wasteful and useless when used inappropriately – it’s like playing tennis in a scuba suit.
Norway’s leccy prices have risen of late – because they are exporting so much; last I heard they were considering BANNING THE EXPORT to maintain cheap domestic prices – the english, naturally, were shitting their pants about this, and -outraged- since they seem to think it is the DUTY OF OTHER COUNTRIES TO SUPPLY THEM WITH CHEAP ENERGY. Story in the telegraph.
But again, we are not comparing like with like, for Norway’s GDP per capita is over DOUBLE that of the UK – they have far higher disposable income and can easily afford these higher prices.
Other specious comparisons – petrol prices in Norway; the level, still below the UK, (NB they have their own refinery!), is mostly tax, which goes directly to their sovereign wealth fund, which invests around the world, buying up productive assets for the norwegian paople. NB and here is the fucking humiliation – the profit, not the value of that fund last year was over 200B USD, more than twice the Scottish budget.
Again, no comparisons for things which are not comparable.
The thing is, when you are in charge, and you have all this dosh, you can do amazing things, for example the norwegians keep taxes quite high so they can spend it on infrastructure, e.g. the coastal highway, with bridges and tunnels – 40B euros just to link up “places in the middle of nowhere”, one uninhabited island to another – but that will bring economic rewards for decades to come. The highway project would make Scots weep, especially our highlanders.
– if their govt wanted to be very popular, but irresponsible for a year, it could cancel all domestic taxation; no one pays tax for a year, and comfortably fund itself from the fund profits. Which would be amazing, but irresponsible – likely that money would be spent on consumer goods and whoosh out of the country to jeff bezos and then to china. Norwegians already have lower tax rates on higher wages, so they have nothing to complain about anyway.
Also when you consider average figures, this hides the distribution – a handful of very well paid, e.g. cityboys, can drag the average to levels which almost no one is on; our wealth inequaliy is worsening all the time, social mobility has gone down the pan and the ladder of education is being pulled up. Norway is a far more equal society than ours, not merely richer – more of the people share in that wealth, and they can do this, e.g. because their country is NOT RUN FROM STOCKHOLM.
Ah, it’s always amusing and entertaining to read one of youse boys enthusing about Norway without ever mentioning the good bits about that fine, wee country that stick in your parochial, chip-on-the-shoulder, socialist-marxist craws.
It’s a constitutional monarchy with a widely popular royal family.
It has national service for everybody from age 19.
It has been and will continue to be a staunch ally and big-money supporter of NATO and our fighting friends in the east.
If Scottish Indy was ever to develop a genuine desire to make iScotland more like Norway, popular support for Indy with sane, rational, conservative, responsible, worldly-wise Scots would soar.
But then, if Scottish Indy ever were to develop a genuine desire to make iScotland more like Norway, youse boys would desert the movement in droves.
With you lot, Indy has never been about anything other than getting more cash to splurge up a wall.
“With you lot, Indy has never been about anything other than getting more cash to splurge up a wall.”
Says John “show me the money” Main…
People say the EU is shit – they are right – but it’s paradise compared to the UK.
But if the EU is shit – who made it so ? America, the UK and the terrorist gangster state – you have had running it a sequence of total shills for the davos crowd – nazi cow leyden, the german guy is from blackrock, some italian guy from goldman sachs, what do you think you are getting? No wonder they hate Orban, but he keeps winning elections – NB when people vote the wrong way, it is no longer “democracy” but “populism” which means it is just -wrong- …
(de Gaulle knew it would turn to shit if the anglos were let in (they begged, they were so ppor) and so it turned out; they were the trojan horse for america and they another trojan horse for issy; which is why LICRA runs france and being able to count in germany can get you sent to jail ) ; the great chutzpah of the anglo is this – having “shat the place up” for everyone, they left, claiming the EU “shat them up”. Priceless. It’s like a gatecrasher ruining your party, gorging on the buffet, then leaving drunk saying “it was a shit party and youre all really boring” – but it’s never the anglos fault, at any time; the british empire? … that was the fault of the spanish, says an oxford prof … and that is the smartest of them.
Anway, as we say, over and over … round we go again – most folks here would favour EFTA.
the cool kids club, the club for small rich countries.
that’s where you want to be.
Let’s consider what the anglos did to themselves (and us, since we are in the backend of the UK pantomime horse)
BREXIT –
The little englander wanted “300M a week fur thu HENNAICHESS” and “NO MORE P4KIS” … well, howsitgoing?
– did it work out??
Isn’t food getting awfully expensive?
the UK is skint, but its all fur coat and no knickers and it needs, for the ego, all these big ticket items; what to do?
(the telegraph the other day – the UK is a rather POOR COUNTRY PRETENDING TO BE A RICH one … which NEVER GOT OVER THE LOSS OF EMPIRE …)
Now if you want to buy something the best way is with cash, in your pocket, upfront and you may even get a discount. The stupid cunt way of buying stuff you can’t afford is to fall for these sucker
“no money down”-deals
– this looks great on the spreadsheet as – there’s nothing there upfront.
The downside is you have to setup these “sweet deals” which will allow the corporations and the banks backing them to “r4pe the taxpayer, front and back” for decades to come. And the deals being struck are really bad – so if you try to pull out of it, or renegotiate, you effectively have to pay up, right now, all the expected future revenue. So, once signed, you just have to put up with them.
When it comes to nuke power stations the price is guaranteed pricing for long term energy supply contracts; a sky high “strike price” which means, since the corporations are taking on the risk of building these white elephants, with significant upfront, they WILL GET PAID. Guaranteed high leccy prices in other words. The exact opposite of that the sleekit tory cunt was saying on the telly.
All of the politicians who put these deals in place will be long out of politics before they are up, so – who cares. Neither are politicians personally liable for their financial screwups. Some may even get jobs with these companies, and once you are out of politics, it is all legit and not corrupt at atl. This is what keeps politics “clean” in this country – you get the payoff once you leave politics, checkout Blair, he has made out like a bandit.
“but why would we want to leave this, this merrie england, this green and pleasant land”
Thanks Confused. It needs to be said. Scotland and its people are being screwed stupid by Westminster and Holyrood and they still don’t see it.
They’re beginning to see it…
Link to Sky News
link to news.sky.com
“People say the EU is shit – they are right – but it’s paradise compared to the UK”
Easily refuted by standing on the beach at Dover and counting the people paddling their dinghies in.
What is it this year so far – 50,000?
Still, Confused, in one post you’ve managed to blame both Da Dews and the N@zis. I believe that’s a first for you.
Well done. Have another swally of meths.
“Prick”.
@ James says: 9 October, 2025 at 9:04 pm
“Prick”.
Ah, c’moan noo, James.
Ye need tae learn hoo tae accentuate the positive.
Start wi fit ye ken weel. Tell us a’ hoo Indy will benefit merchant bankers.
It was mentioned on the BBC Scotland website today that there are plans for a film studio in Stirling.
I hope it’s a success it can start by John Swinney demanding that the taxation powers that relate to film and tv production are devolved,or as usual when Scotland is successful England will wreck it.
We have no shortage of skills in front of and behind the camera or stories that can be filmed without being held back or the facility being taken over by England.
Something to read whilst the dinner cooks.
link to dearscotland.substack.com
Not exactly setting the heather alight, is it Dan?
Here’s a wee quote:
‘the first resolution is that “the current Treaty of Union is not fit for purpose and we must negotiate a new treaty”. If you think about it, that is exactly a declaration of independence’
Except it’s not.
On planet Rational, no matter how much you think about it, it’s just a call to renew the TOU.
Scotland having an economy of her own, no matter how shit it might be, has got to be a step up from having no economy at all – which is exactly what the Scots have right now trapped as they are in a fraudulent ‘union’.
A union of kingdoms where the only kingdom that benefits is England partnered with itself to the exclusion of Scotland.
England has usurped Scotland’s economy and sold huge chunks of it on the cheap to its fellow foreign chums – who obviously haven’t heard of the Scottish ‘laws of reset’ otherwise they might be more wary of buying quality goods at bargain basement prices from an historically duplicitous, notorious and infamous criminal gang – and is stealing whatever it can for itself anaw; shovellin’ what it plunders as quick as able with baith hauns ower baith fists doun its gaping imperial gullet.
Laws of Reset definition under Scots Law: The criminal possession of property dishonestly appropriated by another
Isn’t that everything belonging to the Scots that was fraudulently stolen by England over the past three centuries and more and sold off to third parties?
That’s a galaxy-sized payday looming just over the liberty event horizon that’ll help a newly independent Scotland get off to a flying start and at the same time turn England into one of the largest financial black holes in the known money universe.
You are so right, NC.
And England, outnumbering us by only 10 to 1, plus being in possession of most of the military assets too, will lie down and take everything we dish out to them without so much as a squeak of protest.
“turn England into one of the largest financial black holes in the known money universe”
You are so right again, NC.
It’s impossible not to fall about laughing at the devastating shock any country that plans to use the English pound as its currency is going to get!
Isn’t that so, NC?
What are they going to do about? Is that a threat?
“Is that a threat?”
Apologies, Anthem, I hadn’t realised you are hard of hearing. I’ll repeat what I said earlier:
“England, outnumbering us by only 10 to 1, plus being in possession of most of the military assets too, will lie down and take everything we dish out to them without so much as a squeak of protest”
See, you’ve nothing to fear!
But just to be sure, you could position yourself on the border, ready to deal with any very unlikely squeaks coming across from the south.
You’ll have to put your hearing aids in though, or you won’t hear them.
“Laws of Reset definition under Scots Law: The criminal possession of property dishonestly appropriated by another”
Isn’t the SNP at HR going to get that one annulled?
Now they have dismantled Not Proven.
Of course, with the missing £600 K (anybody still remember that?) and the camper van saga, one could argue the laws of reset were annulled lang syne.
JINGS CRIVENS HELP MA BOAB!!!
Yet another threat of MURDER on here, this time the threatened murder of the Scots entire by the English-as-British army, or the Redcoats as we Scots call it.
I’ve gone all shaky and shoogly agin… what kind of hateful creature would inflict the heebie jeebies on such a very nice and very very auld Scottish gentleman such as I?
This time, though, there’s no point tae cawin the polis – they are no match for the entire
EnglishBritish army (too many doughnuts – and an English Chief of Polis – have rendered them ineffective as defenders of the Scots agin the auld enemy).I wonder if the English-as-UK military will re-issue red coats tae its sodgers headin’ aff tae suppress the Jocks in England’s 21st century ‘Sweaty Sock’ campaign (Sweaty sock is English slang for Jock, apparently. Hence the historic ‘sweaties’ label given tae the Scots by thon Inglis), then it’ll be just like the last time England invaded Scotland.
How quickly would such military action sway the United Nations – and former English colonies and ALL indigenous Scots and all those forty million and more (up to 80 million by some counts) descendants of the Scottish Diaspora – into demanding Scotland’s immediate independence as a sovereign nation state and her liberation from an aggressive and invasive neighbouring country, I wonder.
Some Anglos seem to have forgotten that the Scots have a lot of friends (hundreds and hundreds of millions) around the world whereas England disnae hiv ony (mibbe a few French and some Anglophile Yankees but no enuf tae coont and make a difference).
Sixty million agin a billion – to paraphrase some lyrics from that braw Scottish song ‘Flower o’ Scotland’… mibbe thae Inglis wha harbour such thoughts of invading thair neebour had better awa back hameward tae think agin.
You would never know it from dipping your toes in the leaking inflatable paddling pool that is WOS BTL, but out in the real world, some serious shit is going down.
I was so intrigued by the pics of clean, well manicured, well nourished G@zans celebrating on the BBC Online news, that I had a look at the Guardian Online and Mail Online too.
More pics of clean, well manicured, well nourished G@zans celebrating. Men and boys. No women, but perhaps the G@zan boys don’t intend to tell their women folk it looks like the war is over. Make them keep out of the way and out of sight for a few more years.
Miraculous isn’t it, how just the hint of peace magically restores all those grimy, starving urchins, the ones that have never been off our screens for the past year, to full health!
And not a word on here either for Scotland’s most famous and powerful half-son. The man who (touch wood) has made it all happen – President Donald Trump.
Wassa matter Wingers? Cat got your tongues?
@ Hatey McHateface
A strategic mistake the Israeli Natìon made was not to commit their forces in the tunnels at the start. Fear of excessive casualties lost them the PR war. I will qualify that statement. In the minds of the Palestine Hamas Government they think they won the War. A revision of History inbound.
Three shits in a row. You had too much coronation chicken Tory Boy? Gies ye the gary glitters that stuf ye ken?
I defer to your expertise on the subject of Gary Glitter, James.
Why does Bibi look like he’s shit himself at that government meeting on the agreement?
Could it be because he knows if his alliance partners bring him down he’ll spend the rest of his life in jail?
Don’t you think it odd that all the people who claim Bibi has been dragging the war out to save his own skin have never passed this vital intelligence on to the ham assholes?
If the logic is correct, they could have collapsed the government and had Bibi in jail a year ago, just by releasing the hostages. By now, they could have had a government lead by hand-wringing liberals in the Knesset, desperate to make concessions every time somebody publishes a pic of a grimy urchin sitting on a pile of rubble.
And a hundred thousand of the ham asshole’s own people, now dead, would still be alive.
@Hatey McHateface
I answered you but the Strategic insights I gave you have led me to being on a yellow card. A simple tackle on a free speech blog. James will be delighted.
Thanks anyway, George.
I guess this isn’t really a free speech blog because Rev Stu isn’t interested in moderating it. Fair enough, it’s his site and his rules. But it does mean he relies on automatically filtering posts to catch trigger words instead and it’s not always possible to work out what these words are.
As for James, his idea of delight is finding and draining half an inch of lager from the bottom of a glass somebody else has drowned their tab in and then gobbed in.
Anyone else reckon this sites “BTL” has become a menagerie for Unionists of varying unpleasant shades?
(BTW; I wrote this earlier and set my alarm to wake me and post it to send the Unionist clock milk monitors on here orbital!)
Enjoy!
All else, what do you reckon?
And why has it come to this here of all places?
Let’s be honest, the experience doesn’t really engender hope and direction anymore..
Agreed…
The chuckle brothers seem to pepper the place with shite of varying shades on topics bearing little resemblance to that which would be of interest if those visiting the site, so 10/10 for their sterling efforts to disrupt and dishearten. You’d be forgiven for thinking they’re on the 77th BDE payroll.
Bob says “Agreed”.
See? Bob knows how to restore BTL to its former glory and relevance.
Everybody just restrict themselves to posting “I agree with []”, as I propose above.
4:28 am too. He’s ideal material!
Liar, liar, pants on fire, YL.
I reckon if you had written your post earlier, you might have been able to get the syntax accurate.
But I do say “might”.
Here’s an idea for you to work on through those wee, small hours. Petition Rev Stu to limit BTL comments to posts of the form:
“I totally agree with []”, where the blank obviously gets filled in with one of the names of the usual suspects.
That will be an immense improvement, don’t you agree? And for all those dogged, doughty, courageous, indomitably persevering foot soldiers for Scottish Indy who simultaneously get an attack of the hissy vapours every time they read a POV they don’t agree with, this place will be so much softer, warmer, fuzzier and pinker.
And you’ll all feel so much safer as a result. Who knows – perhaps Indy can only come about once all the questioners have been gassed – check that idea out with Confused and Barbs.
Why don’t you make a start on the petition at 2:30 AM tomorrow, if you’ve nothing better on.
What load of childish drivel.
@ Anthem says: 10 October, 2025 at 10:48 am
“What load of childish drivel.”
Hark at him, trying to run before he can walk!
It’s either “What load of childish drivel?”, better written as “Which load of childish drivel?”
Or it’s “What a load of childish drivel.”
Why don’t you decide which you meant, Anthem, and then post it 50 times on here.
The readers will then be able to attest that you are capable of stringing half a dozen coherent words together. Perhaps having achieved that milestone, we’ll start to take you half seriously.
Near top right on each page here is a header including all sorts of headlines and soundbites.
One that caught my eye earlier mentioned “the positive case for the Union”.
Given that these pages have moved from being disrupted by to – full on – Lord Haw Haw propaganda by Unionists of varying shades, posting reams of dissent and drivel; well then may I ask..
What IS “The positive case for the Union”?
Surely after all the years since 2014 and its fear factor run up you’d-a-thunk they’d at least have come up with some sort of cohesive case for it wouldn’t you?
Oh my bad, some Nordic country has just placed orders to build some warships!
All hail Westminster; credit claimed based on doing absolutely NOTHING!
Where would we be without em eh- so All together now; “Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the..”
Fill in the rest to suit your viewpoint.
And..
OMG!! It’s the back of 3!!!!
The sad little time keeping milk monitors will be beside themselves!!
Hint; It’s the only time we get to post here without being drowned out by you Unionist self professed “Captains of Industry” who strangely enough seem to spend their so called “working hours” here shouting spite and spouting sH1te.
Strange eh?
Makes you wonder..
Hmmm..
What IS “The positive case for the Union”?
Too easy, YL.
Every time some reality-denying eejit, or ideologically blinded, adolescent fundamentalist at HR tries to put some undemocratic horseshit over on the long-suffering people of Scotland, somebody in WM or the UK Supreme Court pops up and says:
“Gonnae no dae that!”
And the gormless Scottish eejit has to get back in their box, although usually, their juvenile antics will have cost the long-suffering taxpayers of Scotland a few tens or even hundreds of millions of pounds.
Until every last one of these home-grown dunces and perverts has been culled from Scottish public life, we will need the guiding and controlling hand of the UK to keep ordinary Scots safe from their manifest insanity.
Next question, please!
BEING THE STATUS QUO the Union is not in need of justification, consequently it does not provide one based on kind of logic or even the facts of history.
Hubris will out.
Alternatives, however, do. Sadly the alternatives fall into the trap of having to make a «case» thereby reinforcing the status quo as «normative», alternatives being considered «abnormative».
These mind games are stultifying, the equivalent of how many angels might sit upon the point of a needle.
But it’s OK for similar deviants from england to freely control Westminster.
Aye right.
Hatey MacFuckwit says
“We will need the guiding and controlling hand of the UK to keep ordinary Scots safe”
HaHaHaHa its the way you tell them dickbrain,
so as usual you and your fellow Scotland Haters cannot answer YL’s BASIC question , but there again we shouldn’t expect anything else but AVOIDANCE and EVASION from a grasping greed driven arsehole who hates paying TAX
Twat H says:
“fuck”
“dick”
“arse”
But the readers need have no concerns. Twat H is 75 years of age. There’s little chance he’s breaking his puir, auld mammie’s heart.
TURABDIN: well, yes, that’s the way it works when you want to change something long-established (like for several hundred years). It is no use whining about it, as it is normal – those wanting the change have to make their case and make it good. Those defending the status quo do not until they have no choice if they want to preserve that status quo. Arguably, they are better off not defending anything until that point to avoid giving any change credence. I do not think that is hubris, it is just standard practice and quite possibly, wise.
Sadly (and I mean that as an independence supporter in England), this has already played itself out in 2014, making any further case for change harder still. Demanding that unionists make a case, and when they don’t, saying, there I told you how bad it is, might score some internal points but will have little effect otherwise. Nationalists have to make the case to those who they want support from, and it has to be a positive one, and that’s it really.
The Brexit vote showed the normative can be overturned and in that case, one of the reasons it was successful was that Leave did a good mix of ‘leave the tyranny for sunny uplands’, whilst remainers were simply negative – ‘it ain’t brilliant, but better in than out, it’s the lesser of two evils’. Their mistake, when that crucial point of actually having to defend the status quo came along, was they would / could not. As a Remain voter, I watched this in sorrow.
“He didn’t answer”.
The costs of being in the Union.
link to scothealthequity.org
“Since there is a vast array of studies exploring different aspects of austerity on a range of health outcomes, we focus on identifying key insights emerging from publications that synthesise and coalesce evidence and data, including systematic reviews and books. All the sources we cover include a focus on the UK. While some are international reviews that comparatively assess impacts of austerity policies in the UK, others provide a more granular assessment of the impacts of spending cuts on regions of the UK that were particularly affected, including the North-East of England and Scotland:
A Health Foundation review, ‘Leave No One Behind’, brings together data on health inequalities and socio-economic determinants within a devolved Scottish context to assess the state of health inequalities in Scotland. This review considers the role that austerity played in Scotland’s struggle to reduce health inequalities (5).
A 2024 Systematic Review by Broadbent, Walsh, Katikireddi, Dundas and McCartney, Is Austerity Responsible for the Stalled Mortality Trends Across Many High-Income Countries?, synthesises available evidence of the impacts of austerity policies on mortality data in high-income country settings (6).
A 2024 book ‘Social Murder? Austerity and Life Expectancy in the UK’ by Walsh and McCartney examining life expectancy and austerity highlighting the relationship with decreasing life expectancy within the UK (7)
An earlier edited book by Bambra, ‘Health in Hard Times: Austerity and Health Inequalities’, presents multi-perspective accounts of the impact of austerity on health in Stockton-on-Tees in the Northeast of England, a local area with particularly stark health inequalities (8)
A narrative systematic review by Jenkins, Aliabadi, Vamos, Taylor-Robinson, Wickham, Millet et al. and colleagues exploring the relationship between austerity and food insecurity in the UK (9) and a systematic review by Taylor, Boyland and Hardman Conceptualising food banking in the UK from drivers of use to impacts on health and wellbeing, both highlight a relationship between austerity and increased food insecurity (10).
Longitudinal data analysis by Mason, Alexiou and Taylor-Robinson explores the impact of housing insecurity on mental health, sleep and hypertension during the UK’s austerity period of 2009–2019 and considers whether the findings differ in places where austerity-related cuts to public services were deeper (11).
A systematic review by Macdonald and Morgan examines the impact of austerity on disabled, elderly and immigrants in the United Kingdom, three population groups especially vulnerable to austerity related cuts (12).
“The costs of being in the Union”
Aye, the cost of colonialism for Scots is £150 billion a year and counting, the opportunity cost even greater in all respects:
link to yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com
Reading the comments it is difficult believe there are free independent thinkers if Scotland were to become independent.
1: Why would OBR or its advice rule in or over Scotland after it was totally independent,
2: the BBC is under English law, NOT the law of Scotland, great Britain, the united kingdom or the devolved government.
3: There never was a Bank of Great Britain, a Bank of Great Britain and N Ireland or a Bank of united Kingdom, it was always the Bank of England.
There are many cases covering multiple issues whereby Scotland is going to have to do the research and back ground work before they are able to become independent thinkers.
What rules Scotland now through a hoax Scotland would not under obligation to be afterwards,
The political system and parties would change automatically as new parties would be registered in Scotland not England,
A independent Scotland is not a continuation of the hoax treaty of union, Scotland would need totally new thinking,
JC @ 12.51
Your point 1; OBR applicability post independence:
Correct, as current OBR (Office of Budget Responsibility) should actually be read currently as OBR (Other B8ggers Rules).
Keep up the good work.
Scotland will one day think for it self, and not require someone else to assess it, or some global think tink tanks to do its thinking for it like politicians in Britain do now,
Thats a case for politicians admitting they have no Brains, and there just in politics for a money Scam, that is why we have such deranged politics at the moment,
Think of your self as married and under obligation of every kind to your partner. Shared decisions, shared finances, shared friends, shared thinking, even shared appointments and institutions, or gym members.
When you are divorced from the situation that made you poor and miserable you are not longer obliged to that person or their diktats.
Your are no longer under the thumb and you do not need to continue along that demoralising path,
James I’m getting
“At first I was afraid I was petrified.” Vibes here!
I recommend
“Don’t look back in anger”
If that’s any good for you. Soldier on! It worked for me.
Ash Regan, Alba’s only MSP, quits party after two years, why am I not surprised. She should have become leader of the Alba Party, it didn’t take long for me to realise the Alba Party was just a mirror of the SNP under Sturgeon.
The Alba party was just about friends and family.
@100%Yes
Let’s hope I am wrong but I don’t think she will get elected as an Independent MSP. Her GC credentials are impeccable. I left Alba myself so I can’t complain she has done the same. Agreed Alba became a mini me SNP and I don’t see any of them getting elected. Ash has some public profile but not as much as Fergus Ewing.
Goerge, I’ve no idea if she’s still going to stand in next year election, politics hasn’t been good to her and for me she was always my first choice for leader of the SNP the other two where wasters with no principles. I left the SNP in 2015, when I was driven down the road and saw a billboard saying lets make Westminster work for Scotland this poster said exactly what we have come to know about the SNP and the Union and the SNP attitude towards Independence.
100% yes, check out the comments on Barrhead Boys Sunday Prism to see the truth about Kenny MacAskill of ALBA’s response to the outstretched hand of FRIENDSHIP and UNITY offered by Liberate Scotland
Wee CLUE he preferred to go BEGGING to the snp who ignored his BEGGING
That same Scum Nonce Party who have destroyed the UNITY of the independence movement , actively sabotaged any and all moves towards indy , concentrated on introducing perverted and deviant policies that THREATENED the safety and security of our womenfolk (that is REAL women) ,perverted the course of justice ,redacted and destroyed covid evidence ,redacted and destroyed evidence in Alex Salmond trial which MacAskill is aware of, LOST £600,000 of RINGFENCED donations , THAT SNP ,personally I wouldn’t pish on them if they were on fire
I’m not surprised if Ash Regan has resigned
Next year we’ll all see the end of the Alba Party and a few years later the SNP, its being done by design at the top no one that F*cking stupid and both the memberships of these party’s are aiding and abetting these parties demise by ignoring whats right in front of them.
For me I’m never going to forget or for give what Sturgeon has done to the SNP and the Alba Party.
“I’m never going to forget or for give what Sturgeon has done to the SNP and the Alba Party”
So this is a new one.
What has Sturgeon done to the Alba party?
Scotland should not employ expensive think tanks to run its country if we have astute politicians whom can actual use their brain,
We are in serious trouble if we copy Keir Starmer’s, lib dems, SNP or tories think tanks,
Look how they all have mis-managed the economy, rubber bath boat floating across the channel, and allowed funded nutters from antifa, just stop oil to religious wars taken place and imported on to this island,
These situations happen when politicians hand their brains over for someone else to use.
Watching Black Belt Barrister on ID issue with Keir Starmer in India Speech for plans for UK.
Always good to learn,
After watching writer , broadcaster and Barrister Steven Barrett,
After watching Scottish lawyers and Barristers,
Because following the law and loop holes is just a so so a smart thing to do, because these are the people you will either end up against or the people law fully on your side.
Meanwhile watching Keir Starmer attempting to set up the UN in Britains favour by Backing India in the UN.
Tribunal Tweets is reporting on an Employment Tribunal case in Edinburgh.
The respondent is a big aerospace company which puts up their senior Human Resources person.
There is no need to trawl through all of the reports of the 3 days to date.
The penultimate thread shows the HR man getting absolutely shredded.
I thought of Swinney for some reason.
link to threadreaderapp.com
It was reported on the BBC and other newspapers.
link to bbc.co.uk
Digital ID essential for control,
You will find it on WEF for
food and sustainability.
Financial services.
Health care.
Travel and mobility.
E – government. To assess services, taxes, to vote, to collect benefits.
Social platforms.
E-commerce, to shop, to conduct business tranactions and secure payments.
For Energy usage, air control and traffic control.
Or permission refused for any of the above essentials to life if they decide NO.
Telecommunications monitor devices and data network.
People need to wake up to exactly what is coming down the line James Cheyne.
The total control over everyone, save the the elites is coming. The mechanisms are being put in place.
It is truly frightening and even more frightening that so many are lust accepting of it. Sir Keir Starmer, and the elites behind him who pull the string will control the people as Netenayahu or Adolf Hitler or Pol Pot controlled people. The history of the world is not good.
A new world order where the populations of the West at least, live under benevolent, or more accurately malevolent colonialism is what’s coming.
Someone, once said that he who controls AI will control the world and we can now see just how true this is. Population control is coming.
UN and WEF linked.
Sky news Australia, 9 hours ago.
Servants to one global control government of nations is horrifying, when you rely on food, water and air, medicine.
And yes keir Starmer is mentioned,
Antifa designated a domestic terrorist group in America.
Zak Polanski previously known as David Paulden from Salford was a breast enlargement specialist using hypnotherapy. The Greens finally get the leader they deserve.
Don’t scoff, MB.
This will be a very popular policy with 50% of the population.
And with a substantial chunk of the other 50% too.
Most of them Labour supporters with small breasts and some men with breast envy. This Mr Zak put the creep in creepy.
I am working on a very complex problem, a multi dimensional conundrum. Is it the long awaited integrated Industrial Strategy for Scotland?. No, I am still working out how Scotland won that match last night.
Do you think maybe President Trump had a hand in that one too? 🙂
@Hatey McHateface
I think it was more to do with employing Away tactics for a Home game. It worked but didn’t deserve to. Still Scotland have a habit of snatching defeat from the Jaws of Victory. Roll on Sunday to see if it is different this time. I don’t have Trump Derangement Syndrome. I like some of his policies. For example there are only 2 genders in the USA. There are 23 here!. I have no idea what they are but I observe the Scottish Government keep existing policies in place despite the Supreme Court ruling. Some people are going to make a lot of money soon.
ASH REGAN MSP QUITS ALBA PARTY
by Kirsteen Paterson 10 Oct 2025
(Holyrood magazine newsletter)
Ash Regan has quit the Alba Party, leaving it without a single MSP.
The former SNP community justice minister defected to Alba two years ago, becoming its sole representative in Holyrood.
She will now serve the remainder of her term as an independent candidate, leaving Alba without a voice in the Scottish Parliament.
The move comes months after Regan lost out in the party’s leadership race to Kenny MacAskill, who also covered the justice brief for the SNP earlier in his career.
The contest was called following the death of founder Alex Salmond, who Regan says convinced her to join.
In a letter passed to broadcaster LBC, Regan thanked Alba members for their support during her time with the party.
She said she would now focus on her ‘Unbuyable’ bill, which seeks to criminalise the purchase of sex, drive down demand for the illicit trade and decriminalise those who sell sex.
Edinburgh Eastern MSP Regan was seen as Alba’s best hope for a Holyrood seat in 2026. It is understood that she will now seek reelection as an independent.
Prior to joining Alba, Regan stood for the SNP leadership in the wake of Nicola Sturgeon’s resignation. She came third in the contest and has since challenged the Scottish Government on a range of matters from child safeguarding to independence strategy.
In a letter to Alba members, she said the outcome of the leadership contest had “clarified” her thinking.
In a statement to the media, Regan said: “To confirm, today I have formally resigned from the Alba Party. My priorities and principles remain exactly as they were when I entered politics – to advance independence, protect women and children, and deliver competent government for Scotland.
“With my Unbuyable bill entering a crucial stage, it’s clear that I can best focus on those goals as an independent MSP. I am grateful to the many Alba members and campaigners who have supported me, particularly the women who have stood with me for years.
“Public office is a privilege, not a possession. My full focus now is on building cross-party support to pass Unbuyable into law before the end of this parliamentary session. I will be making no further statements at this time.”
(Holyrood Newsletters)
link to holyrood.com
Ash Regan should join REAL independence fighters in Liberate Scotland and leave the gravy boat slurpers of the Scum Nonce Party and sister slurpers ALBA to wither on the vine
Sadly, I heard the comment that being elected was a ” privilege” earlier this week from a Labour MP.
It’s the jargonise language of the political classes that they like to share with you at every opportunity.
A bit like the not dissimilar tag line about how they ” will work tirelessly ” in your interest.
Learned language across the slurped irreewsoective of political party. SNP, Labour, Tory, they are all the same
The SNP leader Swinney seeks confirmation at conference that only an SNP majority would give the SNP a mandate to beg for another indyref.
Surely, then, that condition should apply to ALL SNP policies?
No SNP majority= no mandate for a Vichy SNP colonial administration.
“a mandate to beg for another indyref.”
The real solution many other colonies discovered is to use the UN decolonization processes, as Liberation Scotland and Salvo have been doing this month at the UN in New York and last month in Geneva.
We might also ask Mr Swinney why successive national party governments have never bothered to open a permanent mission in waiting here at the UN, given that membership of the UN = independence:
link to grousebeater.wordpress.com
Do tell, Alf….what is Plan B if (or rather when?) the UN simply refuses to grant Scotland recognition as a non-self governing territory, or kicks it in to the long grass.
What are Salvo and Liberation Scotland going to do then?
Perhaps they’ll give up their quixotic campaign and just get behind making every General election plebiscitary.
Of course the essential international initiative of a people heading toward decolonization must complement and be complemented by national political activity, but a smart cookie like you should appreciate that membership of the UN = independence.
The fact that the SNP leadership or ALBA for that matter have made no inroads at all into the UN decolonization machinery shows their understanding (of independence, i.e. decolonization) to still be rudimentary. Much as Stu’s next article confirms.
Or perhaps Alf it’s just that mainstream nationalists, or even folk who don’t consider themselves as such but support independence, just don’t buy the “Scotland as colony” narrative? If we don’t consider that narrative valid, why perforce would we consider the use of a de-colonization process either necessary or indeed useful?
Perhaps the reason successive national party governments have never bothered to open permanent missions to the UN is that they are’t (as a few of us have said for a while) “real” nationalists in any meaningful sense, rather they are IPP style devolutionists, when what we need are Sinn Fein style independence supporters.
The movement as a whole will never make progress until it internalises the concept that self determination is a matter solely for the Scottish people to decide, and thus not subject to any British nationalist veto or permission. All they need to do is persuade a majority to put an X on a ballot paper.
What we have now is the worst of both worlds: a disunited national movement fronted by an electorally dominant party in the SNP which is devolutionary not truly nationalist, which will prove itself utterly incapable of turning the reported popular majority now in favour of independence into actual concrete results.
Until that changes we can expect no progress toward the goal of independence.
In a colonial society its mainly the more assimilated groups who “don’t buy the “Scotland as colony” narrative?” ‘Denial, distortion, suppression, projection etc are all part of the colonial condition efter aw. You should mebbe read up on it:
link to yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com
@Alf
But wait, Alf….if it’s only “assimilated” groups that don’t buy the “Scotland as colony” schtick, how come recent polling shows a majority for independence? If your contention is that those who disagree with your false narrative are somehow assimilated in to the British nationalist and/or unionist establishment, why are such people supporting independence?
I don’t think you’ve quite thought this through, which given your lack of original thought and tendency to endlessly regurgitate the thoughts of Fannon, Memmi et al won’t come as any surprise to those paying attention.
Bearing in mind the extra £26 billion per annum that would have to be found immediately just to cover current spending, doesn’t saying ‘Let’s just leave and everything will be fine’ sound like Boris Johnson in a kilt?
What £26bn? Please explain.
Flynn takes the stage now at SNP Conference. (10.35 Sat)
Mid-day on a Saturday and just 8 comments (including this one) as I write.
This place used to be hoachin’ – aye, and a wee bit of fun tae – on a Saturday morning.
I wonder if the constant attacks and negativity of the colonialists (unionists if preferred… same thing) who roam this place as a pack denigrating and often openly insulting every independence supporter who dares post a comment is putting folk off contributing their views and opinions.
No, Northcode, it’s people like yourself who post utter drivel and nonsense that are putting people off !
Insider says:
11 October, 2025 at 12:26 pm
No, Insider, it’s people like yourself who post utter drivel and nonsense that are putting people off !
P.S. Drivel is a type of nonsense.
Guid am Northcode. Ahm aff til an exhibition
Thanks, Sam. I hope the day is being good to you.
And I am meant to be doing my tax return…
I’m growing weary of your excuses, Sarah.
It’s time you made an effort and contributed some little thing at least to help us Scots in our struggle to free our people from the chains of English imperial oppression.
Day after day after day you give it “I’m doing my tax returns.” or “I’m washing my hair today.” or “Its pedicure day.” or “I’m having lunch with the FM.” or “I’m giving a lecture on the benefits of the Union at the John Smith Centre.” or “I’m in London for dinner and drinks with Charles and Camilla.” and on and on it goes.
Frankly, Sarah, I’m beginning to question your commitment to the cause of Scottish independence.