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Paula Rose

Read up and look at and search Fifth Estate – the theatre company I ran in the nineties.

Liz g

Capella @ 5.38 & everyone above who took the time to say what they thought.
Thank You .
Sorry to take so long to reply I have only just looked over here.
Please don’t be concerned that I am upset by the comments the other day,im not.

Firstly,because I find it difficult not to sound negative myself, while I have the word’s the punctuation to get the tone of what I’m saying across…..not so much.
So I tend to cut others some slack with how I am reading their comments.

But MAINLY because I think that a negative opinion HONESTLY expressed is still worthwhile considering,and while I don’t agree with the views I do think they were as far as I can tell honest one’s.

If it turns out that the main thread does indeed become dead air through the night,I’m sure we can think again,and no one can deny that off topic is indeed intended for the chatty side of things.

Now having said that,while I’m not upset I came over here looking for Smallaxe because I am now worried that he might be.
I am aware that he is vulnerable right now and therefore might not be as thick skinned as I am.
So I am asking if anyone reading this can confirm he is ok can they let me know.
And Smallaxe if you are reading this will you just say hi.

Chic McGregor

Tinto
Yes, it does seem to be rather deeply ingrained.

Chic McGregor

P.S,

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Cactus

Cheers tya Tinto Chiel.

Greetings from Barca, met some really cool people here, we know where it’s at..

Whit’s gaun on wae that Kezia?

Cheers Ian B for TGSFO! Pleased to see that TRIDENT won.

We will always live on a small planet.

I Love Scotland. So do YOU. Line six 3am.

Cactus

I Love the stars in the sky, they’re consistent.

Cactus

I Love.

Liz g

Ok Smallaxe my friend.
I don’t want to hound anyone, so if you are not wanting to comment..nae bother.
As always take care of you and your’s.
If you change your mind Pal you know where we are.

Tinto Chiel

Cactus: you’re a lucky man. Was there a few years ago with Mrs TC and loved the architecture, food, people and the language. Then when we got back home my elder daughter deleted all the photos on my memory card……

Good excuse to go back, though.

Check out the restaurants in Placa Real but watch those naughty women on Las Ramblas. Wouldn’t want you led astray.

Full report required when you get back.

Smallaxe

liz g,and all others who I class as friends:

I apologise for my thoughtlessness,I did not realise the concern that my absence seems to have caused,especially to you
liz,it did not occur to me that you and others would be so kind as to think I may have been upset by a few of the comments on the main thread.I am very touched by the posts on
O/T and on the main thread.I must admit to being very surprised when I logged in today.

There is a very simple explanation for my absence.Our wedding
anniversary was on the 26th,so I took my wife away to an hotel
for a couple of days,her birthday was on the 6th and because of us both having chest infections it was not celebrated as it should have been,so I decided that a couple of days pampering
were in order. I thank all of you,I will kick my own arse for
not realising how my sudden departure may have seemed.Once we are unpacked and had a coffee I will post again.

On my next post I would like to explain a few things about myself,for anyone who may interested,if not, to coin a phrase
I see some of you using”Scroll On”.

As Usual,Peace Love and many many Thanks

Nana

@Smallaxe

Good to hear from you, I was about to send out a search party and glad to know it was not a health related issue that kept you away. Best wishes to you both on your anniversary xx

K1

Aye Smallaxe, ah already hud ma coat oan wi a knapsack full o’ supplies and a torch…

*reports back tae base camp…’Smallaxe found safe and comfy efter his romantic getaway expedition*

😉

Nana

Aye K1 Tuesday night I got my SAS gear out [oops there goes my secret life] balaclava on, best hiking boots on and compass in pocket, all ready to face the elements. Hubby shouted “where the hell are you going dressed like that at this time of night”

I replied I’m off to search for smallaxe to which he shouted back, there’s one in the shed.

The man obviously has no clue what is going on in Wingstown.

Paula Rose

Oi boots off in here.

Nana

Oops boots off, slippers on I promise. Hope you are not packing a hammer Paula rose.

Paula Rose

I don’t do hammers Dear I just cut off the supply of tea and cake.

Nana

Damn I was so looking forward to one of your delicious crumpets too, best get the boots back on and trudge off to the shops.

Paula Rose

Honey come back here at once of course you can have some crumpet, now don’t be silly.

Tinto Chiel

Cactus: just had a thought.

Get outta my town….

link to m.youtube.com

Audience look like Kezia supporters.

Nana

Paula rose mon cher ami

Jings the shops were busy. Sadly crumpets all sold out but I have to say I don’t regret missing out. I picked up a box of French fancies instead.

link to youtube.com

Stoker

Hi Nana,

Just having a peek to see what the in-laws are up to and i see the ‘to O/T or not to O/T’ has raised its head again.

For what it’s worth here’s my tuppence worth – I’d prefer you posted them here in PR’ hoose for one reason and one reason only.

You post a staggering amount of links to various sources, as we all know, but if your link is related to the thread article i don’t see what harm you’re doing, you’re adding to the knowledge.

However, due to the amount of other links you supply it can be more than a problem if one needs to find one of your links for whatever reason so putting them in O/T makes it that much easier to refer back and find the one you’re looking for.

That said, the best advice is for you to put them where you want to and if it’s unacceptable his nibs will soon let you know as i’m sure you’re very aware.

Stop bothering yer britches about it because those who like your links will soon find them and those who can’t be bothered pressing a few buttons don’t deserve them.

I’m sure if you can go through all the medical bother with those hands of yours when looking/finding/posting the links then others can press a few buttons to find and read them.

Take care and stop the ageing process,
stress and worry gives you wrinkles. 🙂

By-the-by, i think the Rev could make O/T easier to find and access by sticking it permanently to the top of the main page, that might help make it easier for some.
_____

RogueCoder,
Got my order of 50 WOS stickers – all present and correct, thanks!

Paula Rose

You do realise that if more people start coming here I’m going to have to clear out the box room?

Nana

@Stoker

I used to post articles relating to the various threads but as you know the threads can move on pretty quickly which means an article relative to that thread can be missed.
I tried putting them all in off topic which did not go down too well with some. I guess you saw the comments.

Actually I did suggest that a few would go up on the main thread in the morning and the rest would go to off topic. There will still be some who might find it too difficult to push a button!

My main problem is deciding what to post as a lot of what I am sent can be a few days old but still of interest. Also with brexit there is a huge amount of articles being written, again I’m having to decide what is worth posting.

Some days however I doubt it matters how many I put up, on days the Rev is not here links give folks something to do when waiting for a new thread.

I was actually going to stop posting links as some of our fellow wingers are really good at it and being a little slow I’m quite often pipped to the post with a link. I would not mind a nice long break.

Wrinkles what are they? Perhaps Paula knows??

Andrew McLean

Nana,
regardless of how or where, Little old me for one appreciate your efforts and hope you continue.
🙂

Capella

Nana – please keep on posting links, and I like them on the main thread as I don’t call into OT every day. I laughed at the thought of you kitting up and off to the shed for a smallaxe. You might need military night vision googles for future sorties.
link to nightgear.co.uk

Glad you’ve been off on a jolly Smallaxe and not sitting, arms folded, pursed lips, boycotting comments!
A wee break does us all a lot of good.

Nana

@Andrew

Not planning on going anywhere anytime soon. Not for the want of trying. I’ve left lots of holiday brochures lying about, hoping hubby takes the hint!

@Capella

Jeez thanks for that link Capella. Trying to save pennies by strapping binoculars to my noggin left me stumbling about in the dark. Dread what the neighbours must be thinking!

Liz g

Smallaxe good to see you back.
On my way out just now.
So will catch up later.

Marie Clark

Nana, that made me laugh you getting kitted up to look for Smallaxe. Please keep posting your links on the main thread. I always look for them, where would we be without you.

Smallaxe, I’m relieved to hear that you and the good lady were away galavanting. I was worried that you were maybe not feeling the May West. I didnae think that a man of your calibre wid tak the huff and storm off,

Take care.

Nana

@Marie Clark

Thon Ruth tank commander thinks she’s tough, Hah.

Brought up on the croft driving a Massey Ferguson now that’s tough and dangerous especially with a load of peats and you should see my skills with a pitchfork!

Aye fearless that’s me well almost I don’t like hammers and between you and me Marie Paula rose can be awfy scary.

Always good to laugh, just happy Smallaxe is back.

yesindyref2

Massey Ferguson. There’s a name. Used to be Standard. I had a contract there in the 70s, great bunch, good workers too.

link to bbc.co.uk

Stupid UK.

cearc

Nana,

‘Wrinkles what are they? Perhaps Paula knows??’

Phew, you’re one brave lady!

Paula Rose

cearc Honey – I haven’t seen you in ages *hugs*

carjamtic

Smallaxe 🙂

If you posts are of your usual high standard,I’m all ears,your ‘Jamaica Inn’ posts were brilliant.

#inspirational

Smallaxe

Chic McGregor,I have been looking up the thread a bit and in
reply to your link.

Better Buffalo Springfield than Buffalo Ruth!

K1,carjamtic,capella,marie,andrew,yesindyref.My Thanks to all.
Excuse me for not using capitals where appropriate.time flies!
Nana,what can I say?I feel awful looking across at the other
thread and seeing you say good morning,they were not going to silence you,were they!liz I feel as if I deserted you on a battlefield to fight alone,and to make it worse,your only concern was for my well-being.

Brian Doonthetoon,Ian Brotherhood,Ronnie Anderson,Xsticks,Paula Rose we all met on the 18th,it was a
pleasure,it was well worth the journey,so many people to meet
please excuse my memory if anyone has been left out.

I wonder if any who complained on the other thread were there on that Sunday,or were they sitting warm beside their fire,spraying out words at the opposition in comfort.I can tell them that despite the weather, we had the warmth of being
with others,thats a feeling some will never know,that feeling
of meeting old friends for the first time.

I am now going to make a coffee but I’ll be writing while I drink it,it takes a while to write on this bloody tablet with my finger hitting two keys,at times I have to delete half of what I have written.Unless your a night owl don’t wait up.I may have quite a bit to get out of my system.

Peace and Love to All

Smallaxe

THE EARLY YEARS:

By the time I went to Secondary school,I was living in a housing scheme in the east end of Glasgow,just an ordinary kid
from an ordinary family,my dad worked,but like most families
we struggled to get through the week.I did OK at school but university,like 99.5% of kids at that time wasn’t even a dream.

Summer holidays,again like a lot of people consisted of a day
out,here and there,no Majorca or Benidorm for the working classes in those days.I suppose I was luckier than a lot of others my father came originally from Ayrshire from quite a large family, so we had the option at times to stay with an aunt or uncle for a few days by the seaside.

I came home from school for eight weeks summer holidays,I was 13yrs old,nearly a man my dad told me as he handed me a strangely shaped object wrapped in brown paper and hairy string,puzzled,I unwrapped it as per his instruction.

I knew what it was as soon as I got the wrapping off,I just had never seen one before of this size,it was a scythe,a scythe that was made for someone my size.”I have noticed” he told me”that a lot of the posh houses down in Mount Vernon and
Garrowhill have grass growing in the back gardens that’s nearly two and a half feet tall they will never get a lawnmower through it”.

I was still looking at the scythe in disbelief,I looked across
at my mother,she turned away from me and tried to look busy with something else.I realised then that they had been arguing
about his plans before I came home,so I said nothing and looked back to my father,”well” he said “get yourself down there before someone beats you to it”

Well, that was it,I was now a worker!I took the scythe and more or less crept the couple of miles to Mount Vernon,hoping
that I wouldn’t run into any of my pals on the way and hoping against hope that someone else might”beat me to it”.
Fat chance,I approached the first house where I could see that
the grass was indeed luxurious,thats putting it kindly and mildly,the garden looked to me like the Serengeti that I had
seen in books.

I approached the front door,my face glowing red with embarrassment and gave a soft knock on the door,hoping maybe that there would be nobody home.The front window flew open and an elderly man looked out at me and bellowed”roon’the back son”.He was at the back door waiting by the time I got there.
“Whit dae ye want” he said in a loud voice that nearly made me
take to my heels and run away,it turned out that he was as deaf as a doorpost,he couldn’t possibly have heard me at the door he must have been sitting behind the curtains and saw me coming.

“Dae ye want yer grass cut mister”I managed to choke out.My tongue was sticking to the roof of my mouth in fear and embarrassment.He stood looking at me for what seemed like enough time for his grass to grow another six inches,then he said”aye how much”.

How much,it had never entered my head,how much?so I said”how
much,well whit dae you think it would be worth”.I would be lying if a told you what we agreed on but when were both happy
with the agreed fee,he went back inside and I started swinging
the scythe like a dervish hoping that I wouldn’t meet some
tribe unknown to the modern world living in the middle of this
Mount Vernon jungle.

Turned out, that the old guy was a decent sort,every wee while
he brought me out a glass of barley water,I had never tasted
barley water before that day, and if I ever drink it nowadays
it takes me back like a time machine to that first day in the
old guys garden.

That summer was spent cutting grass,the old guy was good enough to recommend me to some of his neighbours and a got to cut their grass also.At first I got blisters and my hands bled but they soon hardened up and it was good to have some money in my pocket,although the first money had to be given back to
my dad to pay for the scythe,it was a good feeling to be able
to give some money to my mother,every few Bob helped out.

Well that was my holiday plans sorted until I left school at 15yrs old.I cut grass,painted sheds and helped out at a pig farm in Bargeddie amongst other things.One other thing apart
from having some money was it kept me away from the gangs that
were running riot in the schemes during that time.

I think my friends that this is going to take a lot longer than I first thought so I think I’ll leave it at that for tonight.I have a nutritionist coming again tomorrow to see if
my weights holding steady.Ive lost four stones in weight since the end of May but I think I’m holding my own again.

This is the first time that I have told people about myself
I’m normally a pretty private person.But I feel that I’m among
friends so……

Peace Love and hoping that I don’t regret this in the morning.

Liz g

Smallaxe hi
Had been reading on the other thread that Robert Peffers thinks it is possible that Andrew???? McLean I think,
might have been in the same hall at union meetings years back,and not known each other,which I thought was pretty cool!
Then I pop over here to find you and I might have been on Ayr beach wan fair Monday year’s back.
How Edgey are we Eh?????
Anyhoo sweet dreams to you and the Mrs.
Good to see you back..X

yesindyref2

Been thinking of getting another scythe. Had a vegetable garden back in more leisurely days, raspberries, strawberries, rhubarb, got manure – onions, shallots, garlic, peas, green beans, tatties of course, nothing like totally fresh for taste, but got neglected with all my working away, and invaded by horsetail and my current tactic having given up on agricultural strength weedkiller is the obvious one – leave it to get overgrown and smother it. Hmmm. Lawnmower on highest setting isn’t good for the machine! Let the brambles take over for a bit, but the fruit was very woody. Raspberries were often grafted on a hardy blackberry root stock so when it goes wild it reverts.

Yes, used one when young, parent’s garden, and old folks gardens as part of the voluntary scheme run through school. Great tool, needed the hone every so often as you’d hit stones and take chunks out.

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Morning All:

liz,if you ever did run in to me on Ayr beach,you would remember,I was the one wearing the hand knitted purple trunks
that looked up so much water,they made it look like the tide
had went out.

yesindyref2: You certainly know how to wake a guy up in the morning. I think your as daft as me.

🙂

Peace Always

yesindyref2

@Smallaxe
Yes, I’m daft alright, daft as a brush – I forgot to mention I use the jungle reclamation hedgetrimmer first near ground level, before using the lawnmower 🙂

Smallaxe

Sooked, not looked!

I wish these tablets would learn some Scottish words

It’s that SNP their doing it deliberately!

Peace Always

Smallaxe

Just got this,if nobody has put one up on the main thread I’ll
switch it across later!

Dear Smallaxe,

The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “Switch to the Renewable Plan B for Hinkley C – fit for the 21st Century”.

Government responded:

The Government is committed to providing secure, affordable and clean energy to UK families and businesses, now and for the future through a mix of low-carbon technologies.

The Government is committed to providing secure, affordable and clean energy, now and for the future. We need to replace our ageing infrastructure with low-carbon, reliable energy sources; and aim to do so through a mix of technologies and energy supplies, diversifying supply and reducing reliance on any one energy source. Keeping the lights on is non-negotiable.

The Government is clear that nuclear will be an important part of the future generation mix; a transition to a low carbon economy is key to our long term economic and environmental prosperity and, looking at the full costs to consumers, nuclear is both cost-competitive and low carbon. It is the only proven, large scale, low-carbon technology which provides base load supply. Currently, the UK has eight power stations which generate around 20% of electricity in the UK. Almost all of these existing power stations are due to close by 2030, and it is important we start to take action now to replace these.

Following a review of the Hinkley Point C project, the Government has decided to proceed with the first new nuclear power station for a generation, subject to a number of conditions being accepted. Hinkley Point C will kick start a new era of nuclear power – building on Britain’s strong nuclear legacy – and help ensure the UK benefits from a diverse future energy mix designed to give consumers reliable and affordable low carbon energy. It will provide 7% of Britain’s electricity needs for 60 years. UK-based businesses will benefit from more than 60% of the £18 billion value of the project, and 26,000 jobs and apprenticeships will be created.

The Government is already committed to the renewable energy sector where it has a proven track record – nearly £52 billion has been invested since 2010. The average annual investment has more than doubled in the last 5 years, with an average of £9 billion invested each year in UK-based renewables. Annual support for renewable technologies will more than double, to over £10 billion, in 2020-21.

Since 2010, the UK has more than trebled its renewable electricity capacity. Renewables’ share of generation increased by 6 percentage points on 2014 to a record 25% in 2015. For the first time, renewable sources provided more power over the year than coal. We are on track to comfortably exceed our ambition of delivering 30% of the UK’s electricity from renewables in 2020-21.

In addition:
• solar PV has had rapid deployment over the past 5 years, with over 99% of the UKs capacity deployed since 2010 and almost 40% of the capacity (3.7GW) was installed in 2015
• bio energy generation was 30% higher in 2015 compared to 2014
• overall, wind generation was 26% higher than in 2014 and installed capacity 7.0% higher

Renewables, such as wind farms, are intermittent and this is why the Government supports a balanced energy policy comprising a mix of sources, such as gas, nuclear and renewables. With increased use of renewable energy, intermittency will become more of an issue and it is something we are planning for very carefully. We are seeking to keep energy bills down by not over incentivising technologies under low carbon incentive schemes. Furthermore, we are encouraging industry to drive down development costs, which is why the Contracts for Difference (CfD) strike price reduces over time.

As costs continue to fall, we will scale back support from sectors and redirect support to technologies where it is needed most. Onshore wind and solar costs have already fallen and so we have reduced support in those areas.

The Government is committed to providing investors with certainty and reducing risks for future investors. We are doing this whilst seeking to control costs that fall on consumers and ensuring that the Government’s other energy policy objectives, particularly on security of supply and climate change, are met.

The Government is clear that the transition to a low carbon economy is key to our long term economic and environmental prosperity; nuclear is part of that generation mix. Looking at the full costs to consumers, nuclear is cost-competitive and low carbon. Importantly it can provide continuous power, irrespective of whether the wind is blowing or the sun shining.

Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy

Click this link to view the response online:

link to petition.parliament.uk

The Petitions Committee will take a look at this petition and its response. They can press the government for action and gather evidence. If this petition reaches 100,000 signatures, the Committee will consider it for a debate.

The Committee is made up of 11 MPs, from political parties in government and in opposition. It is entirely independent of the Government. Find out more about the Committee: link to petition.parliament.uk

Thanks,
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UK Government and Parliament

You’re receiving this email because you signed this petition: “Switch to the Renewable Plan B for Hinkley C – fit for the 21st Century”.

To unsubscribe from this petition: link to petition.parliament.uk

Smallaxe

yesindyref2:

I can see where that special forces training comes in!
Your secrets safe with me. Wink Wink,funny handshake given.
🙂

Peace Always

Popping up to shop,back in 5.

Nana

@Smallaxe

Here’s your morning call, links on main thread.
Get the kettle on xx

carjamtic

Smallaxe

I remember that pig farm,we used to walk the Monkland Canal to Drumpelier Loch,sure the road next to that farm was one of the ‘shortcuts’.

Some really great (industrial) social/political history,connections here,from pig farm at Bargeddie to Engineer James Watt,to the coal mines of Lanarkshire,to American war of Independance,gripping stuff.

😉

Fred

Ahhhhhhh! always wondered what went on here? Thought this might be where Rock cracked jokes n stuff?

The Monkland Canal brings back happy memories, I remember the smell yet! “You been in that canal again? whit huv ah tellt you?”

Smallaxe

Nana:

Thank you Nana,I like it over here,there is some really great
people on this side. I think instead of calling the other side
the main side I’ll just call it the grumpy side.

I’ve had a look over and some of them are arguing about other
people’s grammar, and yet they say that they are trying to attract new people to the cause???

Good luck with that,I say!

Hope to see you over here later.xx

Smallaxe

carjamtic and Fred:

Good here intit! Music,drinks,cakes and the meaning of life,
and before anyone else says it 42.good to see here guys!
Hang around,Paula should be here with the coffee and biscuits
soon. 🙂

Peace Always

Smallaxe

Be back in a while,nurse coming at 10:30.

Isn’t our SNHS wonderful. 🙂

Peace Always

yesindyref2

@Smallaxe
Just as well I’m not of military age or with my specialist jungle training they’d probably send me to Iraq. As it is I’m off to the Arctic on HMS Pugwash. The MOD have just realised it exists so I’m off to scout it out. I may be gone a wee while.

Fred

@ Smallaxe, this is the very weather for a wee hauf eh!

Chic McGregor

18D today, Claymore had Maori there to indicate a letter reversal I think, if so, never seen that before.

Or was it just another type of fish, a red herring.

Smallaxe

carjamtic,

It sure is,yesindyref pisses off to the Arctic without a by your leave,I wanted him to get me one of thae Arctic rolls and to warn him not to eat yellow snow.

Then I get a letter a couple of weeks ago from the hospital and right at the top in big letters saying Examination and telling me that a nurse would be here today at 10:30.

Credit where it’s due,she arrived on the dot,so I gave her a thorough examination and told her that she looked fine to me,
and then I got the shock of my life when she ran out the door
shouting,see you,yer sick,yer bloody sick.

I don’t even know if it’s contagious or not,its very strange.
quite worrying in fact!

Peace Always

Chic McGregor

Smallaxe amd indyref2
Yes I am another dafty. Currently sitting here in my “I’m a physicist, of course I have problems.” hoodie, illustrated with various physics formulae.

Taking a tea break also from mowing a lawn which had been let go.

Deliberately mind, I at last got round to ironing out the bumps and hollows of the past 160 years or so, which entailed a lot of re-seeding. So I thought it best to leave it for the Summer.

I too considered using my hedge trimmer, oiled it up and gave it a go, it worked but felt distinctly undignified, like I had dementia or something. So I ended up resurrecting my bigger strimmer. Messy, but it worked.

Now mowing the shortened version.

Have also rebuilt/repaired and pointed a 12 foot garden wall and laid a concrete drive and a patio area.

yesindyref2

@Smallaxe
Trip cancelled, got as far as Ailsa Craig and Pugwash got diverted to take over Fleet Ready Escort duties around the UK, as the T23 Iron Duke crew fancy a proper curry night having been at sea for only 4 years due to not enough surface escort ships in the RN. She (Pugwash) should be there off Portsmouth in 5 days at top speed. Kuznetzov watch out, no storm sheltering off Moray for you!

We got the chance to check out her main armament though scaring a few seagulls which reminds me, must put on the winning lottery ticket before washing hair. The ack-ack and shotguns worked fine, and thankfully they stopped testing as the privately run Air Sea Rescue chopper winched me off and dropped me back in my garden. I wasn’t left dangling for that long, got a bit wet all the same.

I can now put away the MOD supplied Arctic gear – white T-shirt and tennis shorts to blend in with the scenery, plus a pair of snow sandals. Very smart. They let me put the YES badge on which was a bit surprising to say the least. What do they know we don’t? Sooner rather than later?

carjamtic

Smallaxe

On the dot,that must have hurt,I am still offshore,there is an Irish Medic onboard (County Clare)….mainly flat,with a couple of well rounded,small mounds….the county that is,not the medic she looks like she’s related Connor McGregor,but not as smart.

Thepnr

@Smallaxe

As far as I’m concerned anyone can say anything they like on the Wings main thread, discourse is good 🙂 especially in the wee small hours when no one else is paying attention.

Wings is spontaneous, you should have no idea of where any thread will go or eventually end up.

That’s what makes it good!

Here’s a wee tune for you and liz g that I’ve played many times here on Off Topic before in the wee quiet hours.

Think you’ll like it.

link to youtube.com

Thepnr

@carjamtic

Loved yer Georgia story. I’m in Baku right now LOL.

Was working in Turkmenistan 20 years ago and also from the east end. Who’d a thunk it 🙂

Smallaxe

Chic McGregor:”hoodie, illustrated with various physics formulae.”
It’s imperative that I know if said formulae are on the inside or outside of the hoodie: Hoodie being a member of the Crow family,I worry that you may be subconsciously projecting Corbyn as being a greater problem than he deserves:

Repaired and pointed a “12ft” garden wall: You seem here to be
more concerned with the “Male” obsession with size!
I myself worry more about the direction in which you pointed
it.

“Laid” a concrete drive and patio area:I would like to have more details about this unhealthy sexual interest,we will ponder this further.

All said though I think I can say that you are moving mentally
in the correct direction:If the grass looks greener on the other side,dont climb that fence,instead concentrate on getting your own garden right.You seem to have grasped this
concept.

Analysis Conclusion:Fit to return to duty! 🙂

Peace Always

Stoker

re; Chris Law – Ah wee song for the scum behind Chris’ harassment:

The Clash – I Fought The Law
link to youtube.com
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Anyone recommend a good book or website for learning how to put together graphics for leaflet production and distribution etc?

yesindyref2

@Stoker
Dunno, but I take pictures, and use Photostudio 2000 which was free, or even Windows Paint. You can get a free download just google “photostudio free” and take your pick – usual provisos about checking websites for downloads are OK, or just go here:

link to arcsoft-photostudio.en.softonic.com

My version default saves in something stupid called .psf but I just change it to jpg and slide it from 90 to 100%. For leaflets it’s a good idea to have a big size image, as whatever software you use to resize the image should be good – I use an old DesignPro version – which is why I’m stuck with Windows XP (thousands of files).

yesindyref2

Oh, latest versions don’t need Windows XP.

Smallaxe

yesindyref2:

Sorry to hear that your trip to the Arctic was cancelled,I know how much you were looking forward to it,at least my mind
was put at rest knowing that you had been provided with relevant clothing.Everyone seems to be worried about the ice
cap melting,not a thought given to the scarf and gloves!Ailsa
Craig,also known as Paddie’s or Fairy Island (see Darby o’Gill) hope you managed to purloin a curling stone.

It worries me somewhat that you make no reference to Bofors gun,is this vessel properly armed?

Seagulls,wrongly named in my opinion as these birds are never
seen when a vessel is truly out at sea,they should be renamed
Beach or town gulls or more appropriately chip thieves.

Kuznetzov,watch this person carefully,you cant trust these damn Ruskies,they go places legally when we all know that the Brits et al being superior to any other untrustworthy foreigners can do what ever they like without bothering about
needless legalities.

I noticed that you are careful to use code when corresponding,
as in Fleet Ready Escort Duties (FRED)he will be pleased that
you didn’t blow his cover.

Yes badge,this would have been allowed for the Arctic,Penguins
for Yes comprise a larger part of our movement than most people realise.

Winning lottery ticket: Remember who your friends are,but stop
winching helicopters their not called Whirly birds for nothing,you will only finish up with a broken heart.

Thanks for doing your bit for the Nation,medals are in the post. 🙂

Peace Always

Smallaxe

carjamtic:

Your right, Dot did nip a bit,but an application of Germoline took the edge off the pain.McGregor I have no time for the man
since I heard that he wanted to fight Dana! this lady did all kinds of everything for Europe,she is to be admired not mauled.

Funnily enough (and I kid you not) the nurse who I had trouble
with today hailed from Tipperary,I said to her”that’s a long way”but she didn’t get my subtle remark.Hope the weather is kind to you out there.Stay strong lad,you will be needed for the battle to come.

Peace Always

Smallaxe

Stoker:

Re,song for Chris Law,how about Indy Anna wants me,but I’m sure he’ll be back.

Smallaxe

Stoker:

Peace Always

I didn’t forget to put this in my post but I’d put my name in
before I finished posting and it flew away. I must stop doing that.

🙂

Smallaxe

Chic McGregor says:
29 September, 2016 at 3:27 pm
18D today, Claymore had Maori there to indicate a letter reversal I think, if so, never seen that before.

Or was it just another type of fish, a red herring.

I once had a problem with a crossword puzzle.

“Postman drops his bag”
It bothered me for days until my wife asked”how many letters are in it”

The answer came to me as soon as she asked.37 letters and two
Parcels,Sneaky eh!
Peace Always

Smallaxe

Must go I’ve got an inbox full of emails to answer.

Peace,Love and Independence to All

Still Positive.

When some of you were talking about seagulls earlier it reminded me of an occasion on a school trip to Millport in probably 2001. This would have been our 2nd trip to Millport with asylum seekers and our local pupils and was designed to integrate them which worked.

However, one of the Glasgow boys managed to kill a seagull with a catapult from Millport beach.

The following year on the same trip, when we got back to Largs for the chips we had already ordered, one of the Glasgow boys threw up a chip in the air for a seagull to catch. As it dived for the chip a car came round the corner and killed it.

carjamtic

Smallaxe

I have limited I/T access until get home next week,don’t want to rush posts and get something wrong,will take a wee break for a few days.

On over stepping the mark when younger,my mither was very,very accurate with her wooden scholl sandals,optimum range of around 3.5 metres,bang on the back of my head,on target every time.

😉

Smallaxe

carjamtic:
Hope to hear from you when you get back home,stay safe.

Talking about making mistakes with posts,I spent nearly 2hrs
last night using one finger on this daft tablet and it disappeared into the ether.Bloody annoying.

Peace Always

Nana

@Smallaxe

Good morning, hope you are doing well today. Links on main thread. xx

Tinto Chiel

Smallaxe and Nana: hope this cheers you up. Whoever cut the clips did a great job.

Nana: cut back on those Capstan Full Strength. Did you see WGD’s article on Gaelic? Much Britnat frothing.

link to youtube.com

Anyone seen Cactus?

Nana

@Tinto Chiel

See when I was in here t’other day Paula rose made me take my boots off. There was no heating on and the lino floor was chilly so I’m blaming her for my stonking stinking cold.

Ta much for that video. Whatever was in the concoction I took in the early hours has left me with a ‘blockhead’

I did read WGD, the britnat frothing re gaelic is just harmless banter don’t you know!

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Tinto Chiel:

Hi Tinto,thanks for that Ian Drury link/Kilburn and the high roads.When I first went to Londinium many moons ago I stayed in digs in Priory Park road,it’s directly off Kilburn High road,as Bob Hope used to say”Thanks for the Memories.” 🙂
Peace Always

Tinto Chiel

Ah, Smallaxe, bet you had some wild times down in that there Lunnon.

Nana: yes, I’ve been meaning to have a wee talk with PR about a draught excluder in the hall but you know what she’s like with “criticism”. Lock still not fixed in the throne room either.

Thanks for the video, helps me brush up my pronunciation. I’m in a Julie Fowlis phase at the moment *stares off dreamily into mid-distance*.

Paula Rose

Just sing when you’re in there – the draught excluder is abroad at the moment.

Tinto Chiel

“The draft excluder is abroad at the moment.” 😛

Hope he hasn’t fallen asleep on Barcelona Beach. Those beachcomber machines are pretty dangerous…..

Smallaxe

Tinto Chiel:

The post that I complained about disappearing at 9:12 was about exactly that,not so much wild times,more aware times such as the demo against the Vietnam war,outside of the American Embassy,Vannesa Redgrave,Tariq Ali and my own social and political awakening.My hand was shaking whilst writing as
long suppressed memories surfaced.In hindsight maybe it’s better to have disappeared as I may have said more about things better left where they belong.

I may also have lost my hard won reputation as some kind of clown on the main thread:-)

Peace and Love are always worth fighting for my friend

Tinto Chiel

Yes, turbulent times, Smallaxe but we live in even more repressive days now, I think, and perpetual Tory rule to look forward to.

“Smallaxe: The London Years” still to come?

Can probs cut you a good publishing deal for 40% commission plus a one-off management handling fee of £25000.

yesindyref2

“15 men on a dead man’s chest, yo …”

I mean, seriously, hasn’t anyone thought that perhaps that’s what killed the poor guy?

Chic McGregor

So now I have seven large recycle bags full of grass in addition to a stuffed wheelie bin.

Not the kind of post one should put out on the eve of a trip to Amsterdam, but it is not that kind of grass.

Will have to try to persuade Sheena to let me take them to the recycle centre in the car, but that can wait till we get back on Wednesday.

Chic McGregor

Some crossword clues were brutal today including the one which actually was.

Stoker

Smallaxe (10:45pm & 10:50pm)

🙂 Yer as daft as a brush but don’t ever lose that sense of humour! BTW, that’s another saying i don’t get, where did that originate? Has it got something to do with Basil, Basil Brush?

Also, keep all your stories and greetings etc over here in Paula’s hoose or they’ll all be greetin’ oan the main threads and tellin ye tae peace off! And stoap encouraging Nana tae post all her links elsewhere.

Keep up your fights my friend and don’t stop the stories! 😉
_____

yesindyref2
Thanks for the responses up at 9:27pm last night but 99% of that could very well be double-dutch for all i know.

What i’m basically trying to achieve is to be able to create double-sided leaflets from already existing excellent material.

EG: On one side i plan to display a Cairnstoon with linkage to his works etc. On the other side will be factual content taken from WOS but in condensed punchy headline style, with linkage details to WOS.

That’s just one example but it’ll give you a clear idea of what i want to achieve and from time to time i’ll reference other factual works from other favourites of mine such as GAP & The Doc!

I would also like to be able to alter already existing material freely available on the internet, to make it more punchy, clearer and hard-hitting.

I’ll look for one example that i have in mind and i’ll post and show you exactly what i mean, just as soon as i have a couple of rolls and a mug of tea.

Smallaxe

Tinto Chiel:

Maybe I will tell again sometime about “the London years” at a future date but it might be a “sentence remission” you’d be looking at,not a publishing commission. I will probably start
writing about the “Celtic Rasta” before then,that little story takes me to lighter and not such heavy places.

It’s difficult on an open forum to tell about things that even
some of my family and friends(of whom I have few through choice) know little about.Im aware that there are like minded
good people who I’m sure would be interested in what I have to
say,but then as you know,there are other big writers,small do’ers also.

As you probably sussed I’m not in a great place mentally or physically at the moment.I drained myself last night,but I’ll soon get back to not normal again.Im lying listening to some old Mississippi Delta Blues,just resting and will probably sleep for a while.My tablet needs charged and me with it.

I leave you with a quote worth remembering.

“If someone thinks that peace and love are just a cliche that must have been left behind in the 60s, that’s a problem. Peace and love are eternal.”
? John Lennon

Hope to see you on here later Tinto.

Smallaxe

Chic McGregor:

Don’t inhale,but get yourself a couple of space cakes,and then you can fly home.Have a nice time Chic.

Stoker I had a look at the main thread earlier,there is enough
greetin and moaning over there without me having to be there.

And don’t worry about me,I was born on Boxing Day and been fighting ever since.

Tinto Chiel

Smallaxe, look after yourself and take a break. You’ve been through a lot recently and pneumonia on top. I’ve had mycoplasma pneumonia and know how bad lung infections can get.

Off to the fitba’ in Motherwell tonight so will probs be in a bad mood by 9.40.

Oh Goad, mentioned fitba’! Paula Rose’ll take a flaky…….

Thepnr

Saw a video tonight on MTV in a pub in Baku. Thought WOW really weird, who are this band, no captions given.

It was the Red Hot Chilli Peppers with this song “Go Robot”.

I thought it was good and worthy of Wings, a bit nutty like but will likely be a massive hit. This old punk has told you so.

link to youtube.com

Yer never too old 🙂

Thepnr

That video by the way is a time machine, it will take you back 40 years or so. It’s a hoot.

Paula Rose

I met Smallaxe he is a hero in London – totally shaken when I realised who he is – so in awe xx

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Smallaxe.

At 9.12 this morning, you typed (with one finger?),

“Talking about making mistakes with posts,I spent nearly 2hrs last night using one finger on this daft tablet and it disappeared into the ether.Bloody annoying.”

Why not look into investing in something like this?

link to tinydeal.com

link to ebay.co.uk

link to ebay.co.uk

Stoker

yesindyref2

Following on from my previous post @5:34pm – take a look at this archived piece and how i would like to be able to rearrange it to produce a clearer and punchier leaflet.

Note, there is another version doing the rounds but this one will serve perfectly to explain my intentions:
link to archive.is

(1): I’d remove the NI part.
(2): I’d remove the following wording:
“It’s that simple”
“Vote YES on October 30th”
(3): I would also whiten the remainder of England and Wales, removing all the unnecessary internal map details.
(4): I’d move the black bold wording to across the top.
(5): I’d move the “YOUR COUNTRY YOUR CHOICE” wording right across the bottom of the leaflet.
(6): I’d move the grey wording closer to that region.

With that in mind and, say, a Cairnstoon or some WOS facts on the other side i think that would get people talking and spike quite a lot of curiosities.

Then i’d purchase a thousand or so and blanket cover my patch and beyond until i ran out of leaflets then repeat the process with new material several weeks later and on and on and on etc!

That is ultimately my intentions. I know it would be a lot simpler just purchasing WOS business cards and posting them but in doing that you don’t reach the internet virgins.

Plus, business cards are easier to throw away and they don’t grab you the way a good cartoon and/or some juicy headlines do.

Chic McGregor

Alex,
Sounds like a funked up version of Hollow Talk, the title theme from ‘The Bridge’.

That is a good thing BTW.

Chic McGregor

Smallaxe,
Never had the balls to try any of that, err, shit.

We are art lovers and the main reason for this short trip is the van Gogh museum, we did the Reich’s on a previous visit.

Van Gogh’s work has to be seen ‘live’ to really appreciate it, not sure why, other artists do not have the same requirement.

Chic McGregor

Alex, P.S.

link to youtube.com

Thepnr

@Chic

That was an absolutely brilliant video to watch and the music was great too. Thank yuou 🙂

Isn’t nature just amazing?

yesindyref2

@Stoker
I do all my own printing on an HP laser printer so I’m no use to you for recommendations, product labels, POS material and the odd few dozen or hundreds of leaflets. That’s not economical for thousands, specially with a full colour background.

But I did talk to my local printers years ago to check out the score, they can take input in a variety of formats to produce leaflets, but it would have meant me getting some software to do it.

Your best bet since you’re going to get them printed, is to talk first to the printers, give them an idea with your leaflet and ask them for the best way to do it so they can take your result and print it on leaflets.

By the way, rather than get 1,000 and then another, you can get something ridiculous like 10,000 printed for about double or treble the cost of 1,000 – it’s the setting up.

Stoker

yesindyref2

Aye, thanks for that, i already know what printers i’ll be using but if i can get a recommendation of a company based in Scotland who support our cause and whose prices are reasonably competitive i would obviously prefer to give them the business.

I’m also aware of the prices against quantities situation but i have a limited budget and i need to stick to it – 1000 would be more than enough work for me, 10,000 would break the bank and my back.

Also, i have a set area in mind i intend on sticking to and the plan is to change the details and theme of each 1000 leaflet run so my target area is getting fresh output each and every time.

One thing you may be able to help me out with is educating me on paper/card quality types. I know about most sizes but how can i learn about quality. I don’t want to just bang out cheap crap but i can’t go overboard either.

I have a size and quality in mind but whether or not it can come in under or on budget is another matter. This is what i’m toying with: It’s definately card (not paper) and i would say glossy and measures 210mm X 148mm.

The best way i can describe the sample i’m currently looking at is it’s similar to your average greetings card. Similar in strength and size but has a light shiny gloss to it.

So, what do you know about paper/card grades etc?

Ian Brotherhood

Don’t know anything about this young dude apart from recognising his accent.

Not everyone’s ‘cup of tea’, but ooooh-er, what talent:

Shogun, ‘Vulcan’ –

link to youtube.com

yesindyref2

@Stoker
I’m not going to be any help at all, the glossy 160gsm I use for leaflets I had and have stocks but it doesn’t seem to be available any more, Data Copy seem to only do up to 100gsm now. Same with card, I do my own business cards – laminated on 160gsm card. That is really too thin for business cards on their own, the sort of thing you used to see in machines at stations, airports whatever, or free offers.

Again it’s best to see what the printer has, they should be used to leaflets and maybe give you a choice. They’ll buy in big bulk. Yes, I do A5 for leaflets which is the size you want, I buy in A4, guillotine in bulk, and print in A5. Xerox Colotech is good paper, I used the 100gsm and I see they also do 160 gsm and 250 gsm. It’s smooth and a bit shiny, but not glossy.

yesindyref2

@Stoker
It’s likely by the way that printers buy in rolls rather than packs, and part of the printing process cuts up into leaflet size and stacks. I vaguely remember that from the printers.

Chic McGregor

Stoker

I have some experience of getting leaflets printed.

First, printing options.

Most printers ‘off the shelf’ therefore cheaper sizes are based on A sizes, e.g. A4, A5, A6.

Note, that most also require a 3mm bleed, which simply means that the image you send has to be 3mm bigger than the A4, A5 or A6 size you want. So you should not have anything important in that bleed area, like text for example. This is to allow for registration errors in the equipment used.

Next thing you need to know, is that the file you send them has to be in CMYK colour format rather than RGB. Most graphics packages can convert your image to this for output. This is because ink colours used to print work on an absorption basis rather than the light emitting basis of RGB used in computerland (won’t bore you with the physics). Note that reciprocally you cannot post CMYK pictures on the web. Basically you need both if you intend to print and post.

Regarding leaflet choice i.e. paper weight and size. Card is around 300 gm per square meter or more.

Size depends on various factors, obviously the amount of information, but also things like how it is to be distributed. If it is envisaged that it would be handed out in the street I would recommend A6, which is big enough to go in a hip pocket. IME anything bigger ends up in the next waste bin. The idea is for them to ‘rediscover’ it in the calm of their home, where it might command more attention, rather than the busyness of a street with inviting bins everywhere.

Gloss finish is fairly standard.

Also, double sided printing is much less than double the cost, because it is done with the same pass through the printer, so extra info on the back should be considered.

Finally printing method used.
Digital printing is less expensive for small runs because the set up is less time consuming, however ink costs are higher.

So for large runs, you do not want digital printing.

Runs of 1000, will almost certainly be cheaper using digital printers.

In the past, I have used link to 1clickprint.com who, although English based, are very price competitive and have no qualms about printing pro indy material.

K1

Fuck Ian, he is brilliant…listen tae this one…

link to youtube.com

Also for anyone who can’t understand what his ‘flow’ is click on the closed caption of the video (bottom right on vid screen), some of the subtitles are wrong but we can make it out okay…love this!

Ian Brotherhood

@K1 –

🙂

Yep.

‘X-factor?’

The dude’s got it.

Brian Doonthetoon

Something different for this Friday evening…

“Life In A Scotch Sitting room Vol 2 Ep 2.”

link to youtube.com

Liz g

Vambombarbely @ 3.24 on the Just You’re Imagination thread.

Thank You Sir, for taking my post in the way I had intended it to be understood, I was a wee bit worried that it could have so easily been taken the other way.

I do apologise that I seemed to have opened the door for Some idiot to imagine that they could insult you.
I hope I was snarky towards him to put a stop to it.

But should he attempted to continue,youre mature reply gives me confidence that you would ignore it as I will.

Jockanese Wind Talker

Smallaxe,

Good to see you back and bantering.

Hope the health is improving.

Miss you on the main thread though.

Smallaxe

@All who kindly included me in their posts. Starting from top!

Tinto Chiel:I thank you for your concern about my health,I have as you know,terminal cancer(Myelofibrosis)it’s so rare that the oncologists at the hospital told me that I would find out more about it on the internet,preferably American sites as
because of population size there was more info on it than is known in this country.I take chemo pills every morning along with a cocktail of other poisons to alleviate some of the more unpleasant symptoms.

Being in this condition has its upside,it means that I don’t give a sh%t about what people think or say about me,excepting the friends who I know only have my best interests at heart.I thank you my friend for your concern,I appreciate your kindness.

@ Paula Rose,your a sweetheart as we all here know,but I can still surprise you.My daughter has spoken to you on Twitter quite a while ago re a stage name remember?If you do remember please let me know,I know obviously you will respect her privacy,she told me that she thought you to be a very nice person.I will of course let her know that I have little cocktail hours with yourself and others of an evening.

@ Brian Doonthetoon: Brian,thanks for the advice on computer equipment.I have at the moment,1/an old desktop computer with
Windows 98SE with an installed TV function.2/another not quite as old desktop running W/Vista.3/an HP pavilion laptop.4/ a Toshiba laptop also running Vista,and last and definitely least this little 8in lenovo tablet which I am currently using.I have these other machines sitting needing attention but as they are full of my private writings,banking details etc.all added to my paranoia about handing them over to a complete stranger to sort out,here they sit.

@Chic McGregor:Chic I didn’t for a moment think that you were going to Amsterdam to smoke a legal joint,just my daft sense of humour coming out at the wrong time again.I hope you enjoy every minute minute of your trip.I know little of art,but I have been moved to tears on more than one occasion by a work of art.

@ Thepnr,loved the video,can see why you picked it,Cool.

Hopefully you are all in bed when I post this,strange feeling for me to talk openly,but we are in strange times.

Peace and Love sincerely to all. 🙂

Ian Brotherhood

@BDTT –

🙂

Soo-perb.

Always makes me ponder where Alisdair Gray got some of his wee verbal ‘idiosyncracies’.

yesindyref2

@Chic
Nice.

What software do you use to produce the leaflet, and what’s their required format of file? Couldn’t find a FAQ on the site.

Liz g

Smallaxe
Oh man !!!!! I knew you were ill ,but I had no idea you were terminally ill.
I just don’t know what to say to you right now,other than a feeble….. I am thinking about you and your’s.
Main thread or wherever in the long hours of the night,just shout out and let’s see how much more trouble we can get into.
Love to you & Mrs Smallaxe X

Chic McGregor

BDT
Ah! I miss Ivor. A true eccentric.

More than that, a living art installation of Celtic surrealism.
From the abstract surrealism of ancient Celtic art through folklore and its more modern literary embodiment in Yeats, Joyce, Brian O’Nolan, Gray, Banks etc. even still evident in Celtic comedy, Mrs Brown, Lex MacLean, Francie and Josie, Still Game, Burniston.

Jockanese Wind Talker

Smallaxe,

Sorry dude, no idea you were so ill.

Peace be with you.

You were the first Winger who really engaged with me on a Saturday night and made me feel part of the WoS family.

May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind always be at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face, and rains fall soft upon your fields.
And until we meet again,
May God hold you in the palm of His hand.

We better get Independence in your lifetime.

Michael McCabe

Elsiane- Mend link to youtube.com

Chic McGregor

Smallaxe

Very saddened to hear of your condition.

FWIW I never did think your mild comment on ‘grass’ anything but playful banter.

Ian Brotherhood

@Smallaxe –

More power to ye mister.

We’re all ‘getting there’ one way or another, eventually.

Our nation’s independence might not mean much in ‘the grand scheme of things’, but I hope you get to witness it in the company of friends.

I’m sure we’ll meet again – who knows? it may be on Independence Day itself?! (Stranger things have happened, right?)

Hoots aplenty mon, and cheers amuch for all the great uplifting posts – ‘Love & Peace Always’ right back to you and all yours.
XXX

Liz g

Hey Smallaxe
Think you have just gifted a new dream to both me & Jockanes Wind Talker…….
The determination to see your face when we get Indy.
You are indeed inspirational.X

Stoker

yesindyref2 & Chic McGregor

Thanks for the help, chaps! I’ll go over your replies again once i get some refreshing kip, i’m cream crackered, but Chic you seem to have answered quite a few queries i had floating around my box. Thanks again chaps and have a great and safe weekend one and all.

Our day will come!
🙂

Ian Brotherhood

It’s been a strangely quiet start to the weekend in here, and over on’t main thread.

And we all know what that means, eh?

*’Summfin’s gonny happen!’*

Roll on the new month.

We’re getting ever-closer to the blessed day when we can tell the Tories to fuck off – yet again – and this time they actually, really, properly won’t have any choice.

🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

Liz g

Ian Brotherhood @ 1.07.
And an Atheist Amen to that Blessed Day.

Smallaxe

@ All:
I really do apologise to anyone that I have shocked or distressed by my last post.Last Post!I could have put that better in the circumstances. 🙂

Seriously though I thought my condition was common knowledge on Wings,let me try to explain why.

A while back I had been talking on the main thread to Cadogan Enright and he expressed a wish to meet me.I honestly replied to him that I had two forms of cancer,one of which could possibly be cured the other not.At the time I don’t really know why I did that.Firstly Wings was the only place on the net that I had had a conversation with anyone.

I don’t do FB or Twitter,maybe it was the meds.that I was not yet used to,but out I came with it.I was pretty much shocked myself when I read back what I had said to him,people closer to me still had no idea of my true condition,they knew that I was ill but not to the extent of it.I had no knowledge of O/T
at that time either.

Anyway the next thing I knew was a deluge of good wishes came
flooding in from Wingers,and all of this on the main thread.
Then someone put me wise to off topic and I moved over here to try to reply to all who got in touch with me.

I will post this bit now,in case anyone thinks that I am not answering.I will write another bit after this if that’s OK.
with everyone.I don’t want to take up every ones time or spoil
the usual banter and Music.

Nana

How are you doing Billy, I got up to make a hot toddy, care to join me?

Thinking we are the only two wingers still awake. Hope you get some sleep, see you in the morn xx

Smallaxe

Nana good to see you on,I think that I’ve chased everyone away
with my last few comments up thread a bit!

But I’m going to keep writing for a while,even if I am just talking to myself.I think I owe an explanation to people who have been so kind to me.

Nana

Still here sipping my toddy, not sure if I should be mixing with night nurse! It’s a pretty good cocktail though haha

Cherry

Smallaxe, sorry you’re not quite your old self at the moment. I will be sending you extra healing tonight /this morning and will keep you in my thoughts…hey we’ve got an independence war to fight, so get yersel ready for the party! It’ll probably last at least a lifetime 😉 take it easy young man.
Blessed Be.

Smallaxe

I am or rather I was an activist from a young age,back in let’s say my hippy days.

It sort of started during the Vietnam war protest outside of the American Embassy in 1968,I was only 17 but when I found out how bad things had got,Students being shot on their own
campus on the US really got to me.I joined in with others who like myself had begun to get pissed off with America killing
innocent people for reasons I didn’t and still don’t understand.From there I went on to fighting bailiffs and as we called them at that time the Orwellian name Pigs.There were literally thousands of empty flats and office buildings boarded up and not being used,just rising in value for people to make money from and at the same time people were sleeping in the streets.

Then the miner’s strike and so on.

I don’t and can’t go into detail here but I will if I get the chance to talk to some of you face to face.

These days I can’t do what I used to physically but I do what I can by donating and talking to people who can.

In summation.I am a member of several organisations some of which I can talk about.CND.MEDECINS SANS FRONTIERES.UNRWA.AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL and some others.
I may if anyone is interested put up some websites for your perusal.

I am passionate like you all are about our beautiful country,but it’s no use to us if we are surrounded by a dust bowl of a planet full of starving and persecuted human beings
who only want to live in peace and harmony.

I am nothing and nobody,without Humanity thriving in Peace.This is what I want for mine and your children and grandchildren.fin.

Peace and Love to you All,I don’t say this lightly I mean it.

SMALLAXE.

yesindyref2

@Smallaxe
Don’t know what to say, except never give up!

Smallaxe

@ yesindyref:

Seen your comment on the main thread earlier at 8:34 I’m with you on that my friend.I will never give up!

Peace Always

Smallaxe

@ Thepnr:

Go man loved it at 8:28

Liz g

Smallaxe
And just what makes you think you chased anybody away!!
Everybody is a possibility!!!!
But Anybody happens to include me.
And I my friend am Right here.

yesindyref2

Well here’s one, I usually go for the slower album version, but this is pretty cool

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Just in case. UNRWA,United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East.

And I forgot Friends of the Earth

Peace Always

yesindyref2

Good grief, here’s a new one on youtube

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Oh Liz:

It went without saying,I knew you would be there xx

Liz g

Smallaxe
Always my friend X

Smallaxe

@ yesindyref2:

The very man who asked a long time ago

Where will the Children Play!

Peace Always

Smallaxe

@ the Tory party:

We know what you are doing!

You steal a little and they put
You in prison
You steal a lot
And they will make
You King

yesindyref2

@Smallaxe
Yeah that used to be my favourite. Here’s one that’s completely different, it was played and played by just one radio station, might have been BRMB, but I think it was the new Capital Radio, until it got the attention for a band which later got “discovered”. Ha! A flatmate of mine had discovered them from the beginning, and I caught on fast.

link to youtube.com

Liz g

Yesindyref2
I can’t do links but if you’re still up and about.
Can you stick up …The purple People Eater.
Trying to work out it Smallaxe on Ayr Beach with his knitted Trunks were the inspiration for this !!!! masterpiece?

yesindyref2

LOL, this one?

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

@ Cherry:

Sorry,I missed your post up thread but I think I must have a
touch of hay fever,my eyes were watering. 🙂 people have been so kind,I Knew That there were kind people here and it seems that they were not hard to find.Thank you for your own
kindness Cherry and I hope your own faith brings you comfort
always.

Peace, and Love to you and Those you love

Liz g

Yes that’s the very one
Thank You Yesindyref2
Now we just need to have Mrs Smallaxe confirm our suspicions!!

Ghillie

Love and peace to you too Smallaxe = )

Have a lovely snooze and we’ll hear from you again tomorrow xxx

Jockanese Windwalker, the Celtic Blessing is a favourite of mine too = )

Nana, hope you are feeling lots better soon!

Ps thanks everyone for being here for everyone else = )

Smallaxe

@ yesindyref2:

You might hate me for this,but I knew Freddy,I spoke to him frequently at one of his favourite pubs,Kenny Everett used to be there as well great guys and I dont know who was the funniest.First off I am not gay but I have had a lot of friend’s from that community.Secondly, I am just a guy like anybody else so don’t think for a minute that you would know me if you passed in the street.

I really don’t want anybody thinking that I might be some mysterious guy working under an alias,Sumdy Famous or sumfin.
I’m not,circumstances just happened and I happened to be in company at times,that just happened,so it happened!

I hope you know what I’m trying to say,if so,tell me,because I would love to know.

I know that you are probably sleeping but maybe you will see this later.

By the way,talking of friends,one guy I have known since back then,sent me up a magazine a couple of months ago,it was Pride in London,you may have heard of it.It was held in June, well anyway it’s an official souvenir guide to pride in London 2016
and it’s really interesting,articles by various people from Peter Tachelle,Ronan Keating and others from people I’ve never known or heard of,it has a book review by people and subjects that I didn’t think would enjoy but just reading the opinions on some of the books made me think that a lot of people might enjoy them,the books were what I would describe as really human stories.

Anyway now that I’ve bored you to sleep again and probably other people will read this when they wake up.We did get that
matter cleared up,remember?I am nobody you or anyone else would know I’m just a guy whose inten.. nearly! just a guy that happened to be where happenings happened to happen,in fact I can prove it, its about 5:45am just now so I’ll go outside and blow my car horn,and then I’ll know if there are any Wingers living close, if you are a Winger when you hear the horn,put your lights on and shout wtf is that! Simples.
🙂

Peace Always

I fully understand that I have went on quite a bit,so if you find this post to be a bit too long,just read some of it

Smallaxe

@ the music link people:
Some people,are not as lucky as you people,people that you people entertain,people that for other people, these people would like you people,to let these people,entertain you people, but they can’t,these people can’t link music to you people,so you people should take requests from these people, then these people,could let you people,hear some music that these people,think that you people,and other people, might enjoy.Think about it, you lucky music link people.

What! Where did all these people come from?

Peace for people

Smallaxe

Ghillie:
How did you get up there,I never even heard you climbing up past me.Or..can you fly? and what’s a snooze,is it a zoo for
Sne’s? I’ll take two,if their housetrained.I like pets,in fact,I could tell you wee story about Tartan gerbils and I promise you,its true.

Maybe some time I’ll tell that story.

Peace Love and Harmony

Tinto Chiel

Morning, Smallaxe.

Very sorry to hear your news. I was not aware of the full situation and thought you were convalescing from your other op.

As you know, there will always be someone here to chat to.

Hope to meet you at some “insurgents’ meeting” before too long.

All the best to you and family.

Andrew McLean

Ian that link was brilliant, pure dead!

Liz g why the ? After my name, couldn’t be that you know my full name?
I have never been called my first, my second is always shortened by my family in that Scottish way, and some old friends called me something completely different.
So like most posters here it seems I am as mad as a brush too! Who knew?

Paula Rose

Comes in, clears up, does the washing up – Smallaxe Honey is this your hat?

Paula Rose

Puts on a disc on the trusty dansette…

link to youtube.com

Proud Cybernat

PeeP the BeeB Campaign Update

Okay, so there’s been something of a hitch. Received several boxes midweek containing thoosands and thoosands and thoosands of USELESS stickies. They were printed onto the wrong paper stock. It was the printer’s fault and they are re-doing the job again as a priority and, of course, at their expense. Each stickie should have had a split-back to ease the peeling of the label from the paper. But they were printed onto paper with NO split-back which makes peeling the label a complete nightmare – takes me AGES.

Handing these out for folks to stick to lapels, bags, hats, rucksacks etc will only end up with them in the bin as the person becomes totally frustrated trying to peel the damn thing.

So, I put the word out to the distribution teams across the country to ask if anyone had any bright ideas of what might be done with thoosands and thoosands of dud stickies bearing the message “BBC MISREPORTING SCOTLAND”.

There have been some good suggestions so far, such as simply leaving small piles of them on pub/cafe tables (indy-friendly places naturally) for people simply to take one (like a business card idea). It’s not fly-posting (illegal) because they are not being stuck to anything (and you would have sought permission anyway).

Other ideas include finding an art student who could perhaps use them to do some art project. (I can imagine the screen of a giant telly completely covered in these dud stickies). Might get some good publicity. Maybe they could make them into badges with a wee pin of some sort?

Anyway – a few folks suggested putting it out to the wider WoS community (that’s YOU) to get some more inspired suggestions. So – if you can think of a way that these dud stickies can be utilised in a way that will get the message BBC MISREPORTING SCOTLAND out there to as wide an audience as possible then drop an email to: peepthebeeb [@] gmail.com. (No spaces or square brackets in the addy, of course).

Looking forward to your thoughts.

Ta.

Smallaxe

Paula Rose:

Yes Paula,I left it on purpose,I like to leave it safely at home,will that be ok,could you hang it up somewhere as I won’t be leaving any time soon.x

Peace Love and Panama Hats

Smallaxe

Tinto Chiel:

Good morning Tinto,sorry Man I assumed everybody knew,if you have read up this thread you’ll have seen my explanation,it never occurred to me that not everyone had seen my original
Post on the main thread a while back.Then again not everybody
has got the time to read every post,I read most because I’m at
home a lot.

As for us meeting,it wont be for the want of trying my friend
I fully intend meeting you and as many other yes people and Wingers as possible.

Peace Always

Liz g

Andrew McLean @ 10.13am
Em I think the ? after your name was meant to mean “I think it’s you’re post I’m talking about,but I’m not sure”.
Other than that it can only be either sausage fingers or alcohol.
It’s definitely Not my being mysterious,cause that’s Paula Rose’s Joab and I wouldn’t dare !!!

Nana

@Smallaxe

That’s the last time I mix tinctures, geez what a weird dream I had. Some very odd characters, there might be a book in that jumble of stuff!

How are you today? I hope you got some sleep at least.
Grab a cup of something as I’ve left links on the green and pleasant land thread.

Michael McCabe

just showing Lynn how to link Music from You tube. link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

@Michael –

Please tell Lynn we’re looking forward to her posts/links.

I’m getting my white suit back from the dry cleaner later…ready to boogie on a Saturday night!

🙂

Paula Rose

You’re not coming in here wearing that.

yesindyref2

@Smallaxe
Yes, I’m not gay either, but am pleased as the effect music has had on changing attitudes. I remember when people were shocked when Fredy Mercury “came out”, saying, like, well, didn’t you think about the name of the band? Mmmm.

Met you at Glasgow Green, you pointed out the small axe(s) on your hat, though since you left that at Paula’s, well, that’s a bit of a shame all the same.

Music for me is memories, history, future, change, places – and people. Yeah, loads of people. Mmmm …

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

Too late!

Associates, ’18 Carat Love Affair’ –

link to youtube.com

Thepnr

@Ian Brotherhood

I went out once with lead singer Billy Mackenzie’s wee sister. Wasn’t to be though 🙂

I think this is their best well known song of course.

link to youtube.com

X_Sticks

@Smallaxe

Just catching up with O/T and I’m sorry to hear you’re not in such a good place. I could see you weren’t 100% when I met you at the Green but I didn’t realise how bad things are for you. All the more respect to you sir for making the effort to be there. It was an honour to meet you and you lovely lady.

I don’t often dj around here and I’m sure other will tell you why, but here’s a little thing you might remember and I hope it cheers you up.

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

Who’s up for a jig?

A wee warmer…

Alvin Stardust, ‘Pretend’ –

(Didn’t realise he was such a good guitar player – certainly looks for real anyway…)

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

Here’s one for Thepnr, cause I know he likes it.

Shakin’ Stevens & Bonnie Tyler, ‘Rockin’ Good Way’ –

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

For those of a certain age, this may summon a sniffle or twa…(I was five when this was out and loved it.)

Mary Hopkin, ‘Those Were The Days’ –

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

@Michael McC –

Did Lynn pick anything yet? Let’s get it on!

In the meantime…

Petula Clark, ‘Downtown’ –

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

This is for all Wingers, Cybernats, lurkers, switherers, anyone who’s feeling a bit low about it all, and, very especially, all those No’s who know deep down that Scotland can and should – for a host of solid reasons, moral and pragmatic – reclaim its self respect.

I hereby nominate this magnificent Andy Williams classic as a ‘Friends of Wings’ anthem:

Honda ‘Impossible Dream’ Commercial (2005)

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

You don’t have to…

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

Another one of my lad’s favourites.

Yelawolf, ‘Till It’s Gone’ –

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

Total genius from one of our own…

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

For a laugh! http://www.petethetemp.co.uk

Video : Cameron’s goodbye :the pig society

This guy does some great stuff,Activist, mostly English but
Relevant.

Peace Always

Smallaxe

Just been lurking,had grandkids over, so just enjoying the music now,catch up with you all tomorrow.

Kris Kristofferson:To beat the Devil,if some of the lucky linky people could Oblige.fanks muchly

Peace Always

Croompenstein

@Smallaxe –

I’m enjoying a bit of Kris too…

link to youtube.com

and a bit of Joni

link to youtube.com

Peace to you and yours..

Paula Rose

Just love you – love you all *tears streaming down face* – now please note the new rugs.

Ian Brotherhood

@Smallaxe –

Here ye go mister –

link to youtube.com

Croompenstein

Put another dime in the jukebox baby……

link to youtube.com

Croompenstein

His dad was good but Dylan’s boy does it for me..

link to youtube.com

and Chuck..

link to youtube.com

mavs noo..

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

Trust me this is timely…

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Thanks my friends keep it coming,

I may be wrong but,Joni Mitchell must have been one if not the
First Pro Environment singers.

Peace Always

Paula Rose

Smallaxe my dear friend – I expect you might have seen me playing this before, but tonight I play it for you…

link to youtube.com

Croompenstein

The race is almost run..

link to youtube.com

The British kept a comin..

link to youtube.com

We’ll keep Mick and Keef..

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Future Islands: Seasons (waiting on you)
Future Islands: A dream of you and me.

Love watching this guy perform. 🙂

Peace Always

Smallaxe

Paula Rose:

Beautiful music from the People living in the “Dreamtime”, their artwork showed how their world came to “BE”

The Brits brought a nightmare to them.

Thank you x

Peace Always

Smallaxe

Croompenstien:

Battle of New Orleans,Lonnie Donegan was the first guy that I
heard doing that,many many moons ago!

Peace Always

Smallaxe

If the Stones and others had not played their music,we would never had heard of Muddy Waters and all of the other great
Bluesmen,American “wasps” did not know that all the music was
Right Under their Noses.ha ha “Stupid White Men”

Peace Always ALLWAYS

Michael McCabe

Smallaxe Here is a wee song recorded over here in Manchester in 1964 you never had many Woman Guitarists back in the day. link to youtube.com

yesindyref2

test

Smallaxe

Ian Brotherhood:

Hi Brother,you Must know Spooky Tooth who did a great job of
I am the Walrus.

By the way you don’t have to play everything I’m just time travlin,

Steve Marriott:”Stay with me Baby”,Sharon Tandy was the first person that I heard singing that one.

Melissa Etheridge & Joss Stone:Janis Joplin tribute,Mellissa,if you watch her,you can see the music running through her!

Ten Years After:Ssssh,great album*****

Garnet Silk:”Bless Me”,this lovely Rasta died in a fire while I was in Jamaica,heart broken about it.

Peace Always

Cherry

Never put up a song before…Here’s my favourite singer from the 90’s

link to youtube.com

Michael McCabe

@ Ian Brotherhood & Nana Hi Ian Seen Lynn Yesterday Afternoon. Think she was out last Night so reckon she might post something later today. Hi Nana I love your links Wherever you post them. Here is a wee song for you. link to youtube.com

Michael McCabe

Mazzy Star- Fade into you. link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Michael McCabe: That’s somthin’ else man,Ive enjoyed the stuff you’ve been putting on here for a while Michael,you can hunt them down! 🙂

Peace Always

Smallaxe

Cherry:

Try Sia “Breath Me” if you haven’t already.

Peace Always

yesindyref2

Wow, fell shy of the “spam trap” with j*ggy j*ggy in a post about jigs. Wonder if this one will get through?

Smallaxe

yesindyref2:

Jig a Jig:East of Eden 1971

🙂

Peace Always

Thepnr

@Smallaxe

Here’s that Future Islands song you requested.

link to youtube.com

A favourite of mines too 🙂

Tinto Chiel

New rugs, Paula Rose? Nana will be pleased.

Nice, but no kilims?

What a mess! Been having a party? Brought some Three-in-One for the lock in the bog.

Smallaxe

I dont think off topic is shown conspicuously enough on the main page of WOS,its a lot more welcoming for lurkers,newbies,
and undecided folk.We don’t criticise people for grammar,spelling or typos.All these things are unimportant.Some folk might want to write here and if they are dyslexic,dystextic or punctuationaly imperfect,who cares?as long as we can understand there,they’re or even their meaning!
We don’t sweat the small things here.(paragraph break)

Pretty Paula Rose,i’m sure will agree and welcome all to her to her Palaces of Perfect Performances of music,musings,poems,
jokes, soiree’s,cocktail parties,raves,raving loonies( mia culpa)and compassionate company,of which I have experienced copiously on this very site.Just Remember to wipe your feet so as not to stain Paula’s lovely new rugs and refrain from peeing in the sink etc.

Linger a while and lap up the love,peace and Inclusion that permeates the perfumed atmosphere of sweet Paula’s many roomed Mansion.

PS,I think someone mentioned similar thoughts recently.

Tinto Chiel

“and refrain from peeing in the sink”

Just been in to sort the lock, Smallaxe. Seems that ship has sailed.

I hope some of you are proud of yirsels!

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Smallaxe.

At 10.23, you typed,
“…and refrain from peeing in the sink etc.”

Which immediately made me think of Supercharge and “She Moved The Dishes First”. Supercharge were a very entertaining Liverpool band of the late 70s and 80s. I saw them play 4 times at the Bowlin’ Alley in Dundee – the College of Technology’s students’ union. Their irreverent humour always went down well.

Their influence was “soul” but the fact that they were p!$$takers overruled the musical aspects of their live performances. Have a listen to the ballad below. After the engagement ring event (around halfway through), it gets down to the nitty gritty.

link to youtube.com

Marie Clark

Morning folks. I’ve been spending more time here in Paula Rose’s mansion as it’s more friendly than the main board at the moment.
There’s ower mony dictators telling ither folk aff aboot a’ sorts o’ things am gettin a bit fed up wi it a’.

Nana, I see that your a bit under the weather wi a chest infection.Look efter yersel noo cause your real important tae us wi a’ the links that you provide, and the kindness that you show tae ithers. I’m a bit under the weather masel at the minute, a dinnae ken whit it is but it’s makin me feel like shit.

Oh oh, mibbies a shouldnae a said that sweary wurd, I’ll be getting telt aff by Paula Rose. Sorry Paula. Hope a don’t get ma marchin orders noo.

Smallaxe

@ Thepnr:

Thanks,I just love watching the guys passion and movements,he gives his all in every song that he performs.He fits in well with the SNP name wise as well.Salmond,Sturgeon and Samuel T Herring!all we need now is Fish (Marrilion), maybe even Pike and Tuna turner,Blue Oyster Cult…

Coat on!

Peace Always

Thepnr

@Marie Clark

Hi Marie

Just one question. Did you bring a kerry oot 🙂

@Smallaxe

When it comes to the next referendum it will take all the passion we can muster to get us over the line. That’s why I forever bump my gums about being positive. I really hate negative thoughts about Independence.

That includes talk of UDI or violence, all of these are negative in my opinion, I’m guilty of opposing such thoughts when they are posted on the main threads and it doesn’t make you popular.

Well tough shit, I’m not here to be popular but rather to win a referendum and our Independence.

Meantime let’s enjoy Marillion.

link to youtube.com

Marie Clark

Aye Thepnr, I’ve broucht the kerry oot, a drop o’ the hard stuff if anyone wants yin. I’ve also brocht a chocolate cake, noo jist dinnae drap the crumbs on the new rugs or we’ll a’ get an awfi doin.

I’d pit up the youtube thingy o. Peter Sellars wi a drap o’ the hard stuff, but am no very guid at some o these link thingys.

Thepnr

@Marie Clark

Haha, Sellars was class. Here’s a drap o’ the hard stuff.

link to youtube.com

Stoker

Hi Chic

Just going back over your post of 30.09.16 @ 11:02pm for the umpteenth time and i’ve written it all into my wee info book. Some brilliant info in there, such as the ‘3mm bleed’ etc etc.

The plan is to deliver door to door over a set area so that through time i get to learn what works, know my patch inside-out and hopefully build up a good few contacts and expand from there.

I wouldn’t do the handing out in the street routine because, apart from the inviting bin scenario you mention i personally hate being approached by anyone when i’m out and about shopping etc.

Plus, you never know who you may be wasting your time on, you could simply be throwing away one of your leaflets on someone who doesn’t even live in Scotland and has absolutely no interest whatsoever. Going door to door almost guarantees you get your info into the hands of a voter.

As for size, yes, my plan is to go with something around the A6 size, or as i mentioned to ‘yesindyref2’= 210mm X 148mm. I want to produce as good a quality as i possibly can and i believe anything bigger would mean scrimping on quality of card/paper and wouldn’t command ones attention as strongly.

Once i’m up and running and my first order arrives they’ll be transferred into one of my rucksacks and hey-ho Shanks’s pony here i go.

Thanks again for the guidance Chic, you’ll go down in history as helping to kickstart one of Scotland’s wee cottage industries in the wars for independence. LOL 😉

Marie Clark

Cheers for that Alex, I enjoyed that.

yesindyref2

@Smallaxe
Yeah, good stuff – link to youtube.com

Stoker

Proud Cybernat wrote (@11:08am)
(re: PeeP the BeeB)

“Other ideas include finding an art student who could perhaps use them to do some art project. (I can imagine the screen of a giant telly completely covered in these dud stickies).”

I really like those 2 ideas, especially giving to an art student.

Would love to take a couple of hundred off your hands but it wouldn’t be practical getting them to me. Good luck offloading!

Also, very well done you on your wee initiative, we all need to be doing what we can and there’s no greater target than our No1 enemy, The BBC!

Keep up the excellent work!

Smallaxe

Just catching up here,had some mail to answer then I took a look across on the other side,my my,. Thepnr saw your and some other posts over there well done. I agree with your outlook as you will know already.

As you say we are not trying to win any popularity contest.I find a lot of people talking about things,which are totally irrelevant until Independence is ours.Your positive outlook is the only way to go.Violence is always a No/No except in self defence.

I understand people’s frustration,we all suffer from that feeling,a stroke of a pen in 2014 would have solved everything,I can’t get my head around any person who is, or thinks they are,a true Scot, with Scotland’s best interest at heart,what motivated them to vote any other way than that which we all voted.I wish one of those people would explain it to me in some way that I could plainly understand.

Peace Always

Scott

POLICE probe LibDem Alex Cole-Hamilton is facing more questions over his election expenses after new files suggested they were calculated in a unique way.

We wont see much of this on BBC and will we willie winkie remove the whip from him.I doubt it very much

Thepnr

@Smallaxe

Success is within our grasp, it is that close. We shouldn’t despair, let’s leave that to the likes of the Yoon media who have everything to lose. Most of all their own self respect.

These creatures talk Scotland and her people down at every opportunity which for them is every day. Lying for a living cannot be good for your health.

But you know what? They have nowhere else to go and will fight until their last breath. They do not represent Scotland, they only think they do.

We have to be honest, it would seem that the media is ensuring that support for the Union is still prevalent among many Scots. Be aware though that distrust in the media is growing and that will be our route to winning a referendum.

Every liar will eventually be found out and that is happening now.

The media in the UK is a disgrace, all we need to do is open more Scottish eyes to this fact that they lie. Then we win.

Fleetwood Mac: Little Lies

link to youtube.com

yesindyref2

@Smallaxe
Some reasons people voted NO, random, off the top of my head, I talked to a lot of NOes without trying to convince them, to find out what they wanted. All I did was try to get them to question the media bias, and find out for themselves.

Liking being part of the UK, Britain, British.
Wanting to be able to go to theatre, shows, clubs in London without feeling like foreigners.
The history of Britain, we all held together.
Solidarity with workers in the rest of the UK.
Defence (rare), we’re stronger as part of the UK.
Family and friends in the rest of the UK, not foreigners.
Currency of course, being able to send a tenner to family, not bother changing money crossing a border.
No borders (!)
Mortgage – what happens.
And a very common one, getting by right now, surviving, not willing to risk any change as it could be good, but it might be bad and they can’t afford that, as they’re getting by.

If I think of any more, I’ll post them occasionally.

Smallaxe

Nana:

I hope that you are looking in,I saw your links at 9:19am,I also saw that you were worried about my health and whereabouts.I had a day with my beloved grandchildren after making sure that I was clear of the chest infection which my wife and I both had.We had with great difficulty avoided them,in fear that we might pass it on to them.I worry that this infection is what you and some others here may have.Please do not delay in seeing your doctor.

This infection is one of the worst of its kind I have known in a long time,we both are still very weak from its effects.Take it as read that I will see your links and read them as always.

Worry about yourself for now,look after yourself and don’t post any links until your 100% ready,it was an effort to post those that you did post this morning,you said so in your post.
Believe me,a hot toddy won’t help.please see your doctor.

Peace,Love and See a doctor we need you healthy xx

Thepnr

Here is the very first post on Off Topic.

Paula Rose says:
30 March, 2014 at 2:58 pm
Look! Nice shiny new play room – time to put on some music!

So mind wipe yer shoes on the way in, Paula likes it shiny 🙂

Here was the first ever song I played on Off Topic. Can any of you old timers guess what it was before listening first?

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

@ yesindyref2:

My thoughts on on reasons given,from the top down.

1: They will still be in Britain so still British (Scots First)
2: How they feel (foreign)is a state of mind,not reality.
3:Tell that to the 51st Highlanders who were left behind to protect the retreat at Dunkirk while thousands of French soldiers were evacuated.They should have been protecting their
Homeland while we regrouped.
4:There will be no work for the Workers.
5:I am not surprised at the rarity,we are a peaceful Nation only waging war on others behalf and benefit,profit of others
6:I have a daughter with mixed race children born and living in England,they will never be foreigners if it did become that way,I would drag them screaming up to me if necessary.
7: Sending money,bank transfer,paypal and other many ways.
8:I don’t see borders but if it has to be I will cross them
9: Mortgage would depend on interest rates,remains to be seen.
10: Old saying:I would rather die on my feet as live on my knees.

Of course these are only my personal opinions,someone may easily pull them apart?

Thanks for taking the time and trouble to explain my friend.

Peace Always

Smallaxe

@ Thepnr:

I’m having a hard time keeping up.

One for Ruth wi’ the big smiley smooth:The Eagles,lyin’ eyes

Peace Always

Smallaxe

@ Brian Doonthetoon:

Where have you been,next time your absent we want a note sent
in by somebody in a responsible position explaining reason and it better be a genuine note nae forgeries.

Urine rich or poor person,The Difference.
A rich person has a canopy over their bed.

A poor person has a can of pee under it!
🙂
Peace Always

Smallaxe

This was emailed to me by my brother.

YouTube:ZZ Top-Smart Dressed Man Mad Drummer

This is not ZZ Top it’s a band called Rick K.and the Allnighters it’s a must see!

Peace Always

Liz g

Nanna as Smallaxe said look after yourself first and don’t worry about the links.

Smallaxe that was quite a party you and the other’s had here last night,hope you all cleaned up afterwards or you lot will be in soooo much trouble?

Ian Brotherhood

@smallaxe –

Sorry, I’ve been ‘busy’ all day, hardly had a chance to look-in.

Some of the tunes you mentioned last night, and so far as I can tell they’re all newbies for O/T, so thanks for bringing some fresh fruit in!

Spooky Tooth, ‘I Am The Walrus’ –

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

Steve Marriott, ‘Stay With Me Baby’ –

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

Melissa Etheridge & Joss Stone – Janis Joplin tribute:

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

Garnet Silk, ‘Bless Me’ –

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

@ jockanese wind talker:12:34am 1st Oct.

Sorry,I was looking back to see if I missed anyone and there you were.my apologies thanks for the kindness shown to me.

Now a wee thought I had about your name!

I made the mistake of calling you Japanese wt.Now I have seen someone call you j.w.walker.The way things are going, like Chinese whispers,if this goes any further,I can envisage you finishing up as knock kneed moonwalker be careful my friend!

As you know we are all certifiable here, so what I say is not beyond the realm of possibly becoming true very quickly.
😉

Peace Always

Brian Doonthetoon

Ah, Spooky tooth. From their album “The Last Puff”. Typing about ‘left of centre’ Beatles covers…

Try this, from Lone Star.

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe – with your cultural background, you may like the graphics on that video.

——————————————–

“Stay With Me Baby”. Umpteen covers of it by the likes of Lorraine Ellison, Duffy, Marmalade, Terry Reid, Kiki Dee, Walker Brothers, Marbles (Graham Bonnet), David Essex, Long John Baldry, Rebecca Wheatley (featured on ‘Casualty’), Ruby Turner and so on.
It’s only been a minor hit three times; in 1967 for the Walker Brothers (#26), in 1994 for Ruby Turner (#39) and in 2000 for Rebecca Wheatley (#10). The song’s correct title is “Stay With Me”, sometimes with “Baby” added in brackets.

Here’s Lorraine Ellison’s version. Goes to 11 on the ‘Angst’ knob…

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

@ Ian Brotherhood:

Ian Thank you Brother,Steve Marriott ex Small Faces:Vocalist Supreme.

Melissa Etheridge blew Joss Stone off the stage!

And Garnet my Bredren I and I me give One Love likkle fren.Jah
Mighty Bless you.

Tinto Chiel

“Here’s Lorraine Ellison’s version. Goes to 11 on the ‘Angst’ knob…”

Funnily enough, Brian, I was playing this to my elder daughter a few days ago as an example of a belting voice with some range and contrasting it with Walk On By by Dionne Warwick.

I prefer the term “controlled hysteria” 😛

All a matter of taste but I like the rather slushy 60s strings too.

Tinto Chiel

For some reason I’ve been listening to New Boots and Panties again.

Wish I could play bass or drum or play sax like this…..

link to youtube.com

Tinto Chiel

But this sax is quite amazing.

link to youtube.com

Apologies, I’ve been gloss-painting painting all day.

It’s the fumes, the fumes, I tell ye.

Tinto Chiel

Wrong link. Told you I was fumed out.

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

@TC –

Paula Rose has some splendid Ian Dury stories.

She hasn’t told me any yet, but assured me they are ‘real’.

If you can winkle any out of her please let me know.

🙂

Andrew McLean

SmallAxe, you keep that axe honed brother,

I was talking to a friend who is involved in the print media, we got talking about Wings, all he has read is the Twitter page, apparently read by most journalists in Scotland, I asked him to drop in and read the web pages here as he feels the Twitter stuff is vileness personified?
Ok we are a bit enthusiastic, and don’t suffer unionists trolls gladly, but 99% of posters here are decent, intelligent and funny.

We discussed how to change no to yes, he suggested kindness.

Michael McCabe

Sona Jobarteh- Jabari link to youtube.com

Paula Rose
Tinto Chiel

Ian, a previous post went missing but may well duplicate after this.

Afraid my winkling days with Paula Rose are over after my remark that her tablet was a bit sugary. Found myself out on the street after that.

Ian was a talented and very gifted man, a real original.

Some heavy stuff on the MT tonight after a most astute article by our host. Now some plank on about no longer “eschewing violence”! The bats are out tonight.

No wonder Paua’s gaff is hoatchin’.

Smallaxe

@ Brian Doonthetoon:

My cultural background,are you insinuating something like A
Flashback!
If so I give you this,Not the Beatles.

DAY TRIPPER

I WAS SITTING ONE DAY
BORED OUT OF MY SKULL
WHEN A FRIEND SAID
TO ME
LIFE NEED NOT BE DULL

HE SAID HE HAD TABS
THAT WERE REALLY
QUITE HIP
WITHOUT LEAVING THE ROOM
I COULD GO ON A TRIP

I SAID THAT CANT BE DONE
YOUR JOKING WITH ME
HE SAID ITS NO JOKE
THIS IS ACID YOU SEE

WELL IN FOR A PENNY
IN FOR A POUND
TWO MINUTES LATER
THE TABS HAD GONE DOWN

I THOUGHT NOTHINGS HAPPENED
JUST MY BLOODY LUCK
THEN I LOOKED IN THE MIRROR
AND SAW DAFFY DUCK

A LOOK ROUND THE BATHROOM
JUST DOUBLED MY FRIGHT
I WAS STOOD ON THE CEILING
LOOKING DOWN AT THE LIGHT

MY MIND FLEW AWAY
I DON’T KNOW WHERE IT WENT
BUT WHEN IT CAME BACK
THE WHOLE ROOM WAS BENT

THE WALLS STARTED WOBBLING
LIKE SOME CRAZY JELLY
AND SHOWED BETTER PROGRAMMES
THAN THEY SHOW ON THE TELLY

THEN INTO THE ROOM
HOPPED A BIG HAIRY FROG
WITH A COLLAR ON ITS NECK
THAT BELONGED TO MY DOG

THEN A YEAR JUST FLEW PAST
IN LESS THAN A MINUTE
SO I WENT TO THE MIRROR
FOR ANOTHER LOOK IN IT

I AT LAST DIDN’T LOOK
LIKE A DUCK ANYMORE
BUT INSTEAD OF TWO EYES
I NOW POSSESSED FOUR

MY NOSE IT WAS GLOWING
WITH A DEEP PURPLE LIGHT
AND THE TEETH IN MY MOUTH
WOULD HAVE GAVE JAWS A FRIGHT

SO WITH SIXTEEN FOOT LEGS
AND TWO RUBBER FEET
I SWAM DOWN THE STAIRS
AND INTO THE STREET

AH,THAT WAS MUCH BETTER
HERE EVERYTHING’S REAL
THEN A PINK BUS FLEW PAST
AND IT HAD ONLY ONE WHEEL

WELL THAT WAS ENOUGH
I WENT TO LIE DOWN IN BED
IT WAS HALF UP THE WALL
SO I STOOD IN IT INSTEAD

WHEN I WOKE IN THE MORNING
I HAD STOPPED SEEING STARS
BUT I HELD IN MY HAND
A SPACE ROCK
FROM
MARS

This story belongs to
Billy the Rhymer
1969r
If found you can
keep it
it’s yours take it please
You can keep it
In PEACE

Paula Rose

Darlings I’ve got to be in Glasgow from the 12th to the 15th of this month for a wee get together of some thingie – anyone know a place I could stay, needs to be fabby.

Smallaxe

Andrew McLean:says “he suggested kindness”

I think your friend is a wise man Andrew

Peace Always

Cherry

Here’s a good one,loved to dance to this…oh and Paula Rose love the new rugs ?
For the night owls you know who you are ?

link to youtube.com

Liz g

Paula Rose @ 1.16
Might and at this point in time it’s very much a Might!!
Be able to arrange the same accommodation that Cadogen Enright had after the Wing’s Over Glasgow night.
While I can’t say about fabby might be a bit freezzy.
You can discuss with him if you want and what you’re standards are.
But keep it on the down low cause I would be in so much trouble from ma wee brother,if that arrangement ever got out.
Because you are looking for more than an overnight I will have to ask this time.
Will let you know here in the next day or so if I got his permission.
But please don’t let that stop you making other arrangements as the situation with the accommodation is still the same.
Ask Cadogen.

yesindyref2

So, finally got around to merging my mail databases after the wires melt in June caused me to use the backup – and leave well alone as it was working with a lot of effort, at my busy time, even though it meant I didn’t have a year’s worth of emails to look at if needed. I wasn’t going to risk restoring a backup.

So now it’s not busy I thought about it, wrote down the plan with all the backups, did it on the old dodgy disk, it worked, backed up the whole merged thing and put it on the old not dodgy disk, and it works. Job done, quite quickly, nae bother, and everything seems fine, all emails there, sent and received a test email, server mirror cleared off of 3 months stored emails, got the stored email I needed to look at to check something out (a price), actioned that, all tickety-boo, perfect, great, fantastic.

I’m really worried now.

Liz g

Yesindyref2 @ 3.38
Oh… I Know that feeling

Smallaxe

liz g:Hi Liz,good morning.

I see that Nana has not posted links today,hope she is OK and
looking after herself.

T.May captain of HMS Brexit,hope she goes down with her ship.

Man the Lifeboat”Freedom of Scotland” Clyde Built and unsinkable.

Jockanese Wind Talker

Smallaxe says 2 October, 2016 at 8:30 pm

Thanks Smallaxe, again no apology requrierd as it is easy to miss a post when catching up due to the volume of comments on WoS.

As for “Knock kneed moonwalker” you’re probably right, however I think I’m becoming “Tot heeded fae the Yoon Talkers” what with all the “Brexit is Great news” corporate media are trying to feed us via the Tory Conference footage.

Peace, Non de Plumes and lets defeat the Yoons.

Smallaxe

Jockanese Wind Talker:
The yoons dont need to be defeated,it looks as if they are committing suicide.

Peace Always my friend

Jockanese Wind Talker

Smallaxe, you are almost certainly right regarding the Suicidal actions of the Tories.

I assume they are all smiles because like the song says “Suicide is Painless”.

Liz g

Smallaxe
Hi hun
Ma big post got the you’re posting to fast thing!!
How you keepin the day?

Jockanese Wind Talker

MESSAGE FOR DerekM in response to:

DerekM says at 12:20 pm, 3rd October 2016 on the “waiting on the guns thread”

“The Irish solution is UDI then war and if you care to read you will see i said we cant allow that to happen.”

Derek,

Your post at 10:44 am actually says “We cant let that happen” in regards to “If we do not get out before brexit say goodbye to our parliament and without our parliament calls for indyref2 could just be ignored.”

and

“They intend to clip our wings so we cant fly away and stuff us back in the UK cage.”

You didn’t say “we can’t allow the Irish solution happen” but actually quite the opposite:

“as it would leave us only one way to gain our freedom the Irish solution.”

Therefore are you concluding that “UDI then war” is the only way left to gain independence if all other avenues fail.

Smallaxe

Jockanese Wind Talker:

I have been watching the conversation that you are having re Irish Solution. I think you and I learned to read at the same school,I had occasion to be in Belfast in 1970 on some business (Not Military) I found the situation both terrifying and very very depressing.This “solution”is no solution it would ruin our beautiful Scotland for Decades.

NI. is still divided by sectarianism,and high walls visible and invisible,the last thing I,you and a majority of good people would want,is to live in a Scotland anything like this
situation. I would rather give up the fight and look elsewhere.

I do not seek or expect utopia,I just want a peaceful and prosperous,inclusive Scotland in which we can live our lives without the lives of others having to pay dearly for my dream.

Peace Always ALLWAYS

Liz g

Smallaxe
Well said that man.
Oh and that other man & this woman

Smallaxe

liz,
Hi,Im fine,if a little bit tired but fine,hope you are too.
I’ll just pop in and out of WOS now and then to keep up.

I will just be having a relaxing day,catching up with some reading and feeding the birds in my garden.

Peace Always

Jockanese Wind Talker

Smallaxe.

Thanks I read and reread DerekMs comments in case I was picking him up wrongly.

Totally agree with you re: NI and that tension still bubbles under the surface occasionally erupting but news reports are few and far between especially during Bliar’s (no typo) “War on Terror”.

Westminster didn’t want folks at home to ask why they were getting tore in to terrorists abroad when they couldn’t sort out the ones closer to home.

The whole ‘West Coast disease’ that is sectarianism in Scotland is being shit stirred by the Tories for votes at any cost.

With rumours that George Galloway may stand if Natalie McGarrys seat requires a by election (he is another who has used the religious divide to garner votes) I get queasy.

The Yoons will leave no stone unturned to keep their grip on Scotland no matter what crawls out from under it.

As always it will be the rest of us mere mortals who have to live with the consequences of their blinkered behaviour.

Jockanese Wind Talker

Liz g says at 1:54 pm

Thanks Liz your comment wasn’t showing when I posted my last one to Smallaxe.

Smallaxe

Jockanese Wind Talker:
George Galloway is a disgrace to humanity,he has spent years licking the arses of some of the most disgusting despots on the planet.

In a different age, I have no doubt that this Creep would be having lunch with Hitler and telling him how wonderful His solutions are.He dresses and talks like some B movie gangster he is no friend of Scotland,nor would I want him to be.

There are some people,that can make me think thoughts alien to
my normal way of thinking,I think of things that bring shame to myself for thinking that way.Galloway is one of those.

I will spend today with none of those thoughts,feeding the dove’s that I have attracted to my garden and listening to
music,just putting myself into a good place mentally and physically.l sometimes think too deeply about things and that
can effect me emotionally,I will recharge my spirit and then be back refreshed for the fray.

Jockanese Wind Talker

Smallaxe,

Aye friend get those batteries recharged and don’t waste your energy on negative thoughts for people like Galloway.

Sorry for transmitting ‘negative waves’ as Donald Sutherland in Kelly’s Heroes would say.

The thought of doves being attracted into your garden seems quite apt considering your “Peace” tag line.

Thepnr

@Paula Rose

Think I know a place you could lay your head. Not fabby just think homely sort of. Sort it later.

Smallaxe

JWT,
I spent the day as described at 3:16pm 3rd Oct,feeling calm and focused now.The spirit of humans needs cleaned every so often,defragged and cleaned, to put it in computer speak.I have fasted today and meditated on the positive aspects of our
Society.

Please do not think that you sent negative vibes to me my friend,I was already in that dark place.A message from you as a friend helps to lift the darkness that my own thoughts allow. I have seen things,as have many on this site that disgust me and can make me despair.

I have seen first hand in third world countries, people who literally do not know if they will eat that day.People who have made me welcome and gladly shared what little they had.I have also met people who are very comfortable,blinded and deaf to what is happening outside the bubble in which they live.

I have friends with sickle cell disease,in great pain,that only money can alleviate,no money no doctor,frends who are hungry,and again,no money no food.I have worked in Supermarkets in this country and watched the waste of food,only one day over Sell by Date being thrown out.Perfectly
edible food wasted,without a thought given,to having a time at the end of the day to people using food banks,who could make use of it.

We think that we live in austerity, and in a way we do but when it means that you can’t get the latest iPhone or the price of fags and booze have gone up,that is not what I deem
austerity.Please dont get me wrong on this subject.I know that
many in this and other countries are being hit hard through measures taken by our”Betters”who put profit before people and it anger’s not just myself but many others also.

For years we have been told to”get on our bikes” or “tighten our belts” by politicians wearing Armani suits and only coming out of the bar or restaurant to vote.This situation must be changed and maybe I am naive in thinking that a free Scotland
could change,not only our own situation but could help give a positive example to the rest of the Planet.People are power and without them the privileged few are helpless and powerless.Power and the sense of entitlement that they have taken for granted for centuries must be wrested from their hands and put into the hands of socially and environmentally aware people who will think of the good of all.I truly believe that there are more good people in this world than bad ones.

I’d better stop rambling on,I don’t know if what I have written makes sense to anyone reading this,words are at times inadequate to explain feelings so I apologise if this makes no
sense to you or anyone else reading.

Peace Always

Liz g

Smallaxe
You my friend make perfect sense.
Here is my belief.
Our wee Scotland has given the world so much, I don’t think we are finished yet.
This is why Indy is so Important we if we get this right we can and will be looked to for how things are supposed to be done.
Let us at the EU we can fix it cause we aren’t trying to rule it or break it,we want it to work.
Don’t look at the mountains we have to climb but rather look up at where we are going and see where we will eventually get to. X

Liz g

Smallaxe…Oh and by the way sorry to have taken so long to reply to you.
I was around but I’m afraid I was spending some time with Jamie Fraser.,….just ask Me Smallaxe.

Nana

@Smallaxe

Good morning, hope you are feeling good today.

Links on waiting on the guns thread so as not to disrupt the latest. Best get the coffee brewed xx

Nana

@Smallaxe

Not sure why links are not showing yet. Maybe caught in word press. I’ll check back later to see if they appear.

Smallaxe

liz g:

Like you liz,I too believe that our wee Scotland has a lot more to give to the world and the EU in particular,our Kingdom may be small but it’s got big ambitions and our contribution
to the world is already proven.

Peace Always

Smallaxe

Nana:

I’m fine thanks Nana,hope you are well,dont worry about your links,there the first thing that I look for each morning.
Thank you.

Peace,Love and Links xx

Andrew McLean

Just received this email from the Herald

“Hi Andrew,
As you know, we like to keep you informed – not just about the news, but also about great deals and offers we’ve spotted which might interest you.
Check out the deal below from English Heritage!”

Oh they have me pegged all right! Or are they trolling by email as well as by Mr Torrance?
(Actually I already have corporate membership)

Andrew McLean

Interesting social history. link to walkhighlands.co.uk

Smallaxe

Andrew McLean:
Just to let you know that you are not on your own with the Herald.This to me this morning.

CANCER patients are having to deal with delays in diagnosis, staffing shortages and a “chaotic” appointment system, a new hard-hitting report has revealed.
The survey of more than 2,600 sufferers also found people lost confidence in the NHS as they hit problems with treatment, such as infections, or were looked after by staff who did not listen or “who did not have sufficient knowledge of cancer”.

I have regular appointments with my Oncologist,the service that I receive in my opinion is first class.I have blood taken
by a nurse and 15mins later my oncologist comes to the waiting
room,shakes my hand and has the results of my blood test already waiting up on his computer screen.I don’t think for a minute that I am getting special treatment as it is,as far as I have seen,exactly the same as every other patient.

Peace Always

I do not know where the Herald does its survey but I wish that
they would ask me.I would soon put them straight on this matter.

carjamtic

Smallaxe

Hope your fine,home safe,thanks.

A wee video,it,s ALL in there…aaargh.

link to youtube.com

Nana

@Smallaxe

I spent a half hour and some writing out a message to you, I don’t know what happened to it or where it went.
It was a wee story about my time volunteering at a charity and maybe when I have time I’ll write it all again.

Catching up on comments and wanted to say I loved the poem Day tripper, so very clever.

Still Positive.

Smallaxe @ 1.30pm

Just catching up here.

Like you I have had cancer and was treated at the Beatson and the service was second to none. In fact I was on a UK forum where we had all started chemo in the same month and were supporting each other. 4 of us from Scotland, 1 from Wales and the rest scattered all over England and the difference was staggering.

For example, one was complaining that she didn’t even get offered a cup of tea during chemo. One of the girls from Scotland replied saying she was given tea/coffee and a biscuit mid-morning, a sandwich, drink and yoghurt/fruit at lunchtime. I also said that was exactly the same as me – must be standard practice in Scotland but a bit of a lottery elsewhere.

I only go to the clinic once a year now but a few years ago I had problems with medication and I was in with my nurse for about an hour while she explained the problems and how she was involved in getting it sorted which reassured me.

There is also a phone number to get in touch if you have a problem.

Dave McEwan Hill

The Scottish Passports I picked up at the Glasgow Green Rally. I need four more. I’ll pay fully and postage

Dave McEwan Hill

Paula Rose

RONNIE ANDERSON Honey – have we got any of those passport thingies left?

Tinto Chiel

Dave, I’ve got two you can have for nuffink if Mr Anderson has none left.

Since things are a bit depressing just now with the lunacy of the Tories and their Brexit, I offer you all the timeless Nancy to raise morale:

link to youtube.com

The George Shearing Quintet were pretty good too.

Night.

Michael McCabe

The Moonraisers link to youtube.com

Michael McCabe
Michael McCabe

In my humble opinion. This is a good cover of a Classic Song. link to youtube.com

ronnie anderson

@ Paula Rose Passports I have some left.

ronnie anderson

@ Dave McEwan Hill if your on FaceBook send me a request & I will post Passports to you

Paula Rose

That young Dave McEwan Hill want’s some – he’s up there ^^ somewhere.

Smallaxe

Still Positive. says:
4 October, 2016 at 10:28 pm
Smallaxe @ 1.30pm

Good to hear from you,because there is a lot of people who write on Wings,and a lot more reading so I knew that I could not be the only one who had cancer and knew there must be others suffering with other severe illnesses.

I hope all of the other Wingers are receiving as good medical
care as I have had,I was diagnosed and treatment started immediately,I get phone calls and texts in between appointments,from the three oncologists that I see to make sure everything is going OK,and I can get in touch with their office 24/7.I can’t think of anything that private medical care could add to that.And as a bonus,the nurses all have secret crushes on me. 🙂

We are very lucky to have our SNHS,I take two chemo pills every day,thats 56 pills over 28 days,the cost?£3,600.and I take at least 12 other types of medication daily.Free prescriptions are keeping me Alive!

As I said,Still Positive I am so pleased that you posted,I don’t feel like the sick man of Wings any more,there are more
Wingers out there with their own problems.

May I send Peace and Love to all who suffer physically and emotionally and to all who suffer from me rabbiting on.

Smallaxe

Carjamtic:

Good to hear that your home,sorry for posting so late after yourself,I had visitors down from Glasgow today and fell asleep for a couple of hours after they left.Best thing about Glasgow visitors is that they bring me chocolate snowballs,I can’t buy them down here and I need them to sustain me, while I guard our Borders.

I watched part of the link you sent,I’ll watch the rest later.

Peace Always

Paula Rose

Smallaxe Honey it’s so lovely having you here to keep the riff-raff entertained, I’ve got the place sorted again – now would you like a nice seat in the Wings…

*drum roll, curtains open – gasps of amazement*

Conservatory – alongside our special seat for Nana and room for many others –

*looks around*

Oh boy it’s a Palm House!

Thanks Rev.

yesindyref2

Mmmm, in honour of Michael Fallon cutting steel today, apparently this is the training video he used.

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Paula Rose:

I have to hand it to the Rev,he has obviously compared our verbal virtuosity and the spotless conditions,that you personally keep our lovely surroundings in, as opposed to that other place,over on what they laughingly call The Main thread.

They don’t even have enough class to at least use an air freshener over there,far less the wonderful aromatic oil sensations that you have permeating the atmosphere over here,the Rev knows who rightly deserved a conservatory/Palm house,as did we

Peace and Love Always

Smallaxe

To all the music & video contributors:

Thank you all,I have music playing in a playlist at the moment but I have added all your work to the queue.

One good thing about music,when it hits you,you feel no pain
Bob Marley.

Peace Love and Music*****

Andrew McLean

Can anyone tell me how I can get a yes 2 or SNP car sticker as mine has been removed again, I am in Perth and Dunfermline today.
Thanks
Andrew

Dave McEwan Hill

Ronnie Anderson
Easier than that, Ronnie. I’ll just give the address of my secret location ie the hoose I live in and you can send them there with the appropriate bill (including postage) and you shall be recompensed by immediate return.

Dave McEwan Hill
1 Tom Nan Ragh
Dalinlongart
Argyll
PA23 8RN

Thepnr

OK now here is something a bit different from my usual.

It’s disco and I think brilliant. Mad World right enough 🙂

link to youtube.com

Brian Doonthetoon

After the $h!† goin’ down at the Toally Confluence today, I had an urge to post this link. From the album “Tom Gordon’s Tartan Techno” – a biggie, in its day. A video I featured at one or three Invergowrie Wings get-togethers…

link to youtube.com

Brian Doonthetoon

Just saw this as I refreshed the page to check submission of post…

I wonder who will capture post #20,000 in ‘off-topic’? We’re now at 19678 or 19679, depending on what time these two posts of mine appear.

Paula Rose

Just a warning – just a warning.

Gary45%

Please everyone have awe look at the Anthony Baxter site.
He is the guy who made the film You’ve Been Trumped, he is making a sequel and is crowd funding.
Anthony is a man of integrity and is not scared to take on the big boys, if you haven’t seen the original film have a wee look at it.
He has a trailer on his site for the new film.
Cheers.

ronnie anderson

@ Dave McEwan Hill ok Dave will get them posted post haste

Still Positive.

Smallaxe @ 1.25am

Thank you for your comments, happy to help. 🙂

When I was diagnosed 5 years ago at a ‘one-stop shop’ (my first appointment was one week after I had gone to the doctor but I couldn’t go that week or the next so went the week after that.) and my surgery was 10 days later – with 2 weekends in the middle. My first chemo was exactly a month after surgery, so to say I am/was delighted with the service would be an understatement.

Smallaxe

Thepnr: Try this,

Watch “Mad World (Instrumental) – Jennifer Ann – Lloyds Bank advert music 2016” YouTube

Beautiful sounds

Peace Always

Smallaxe

Still Positive,

Any thanks belong to you,my friend,as I said,I knew that I could not possibly be the only person on Wings to have serious
medical problems,the kindness shown to me on this forum was overwhelming and affected me greatly,in the best way possible.

People who were writing on a very important subject to us all,
took time to send me messages of love and support,it meant a great deal to my wife and myself.

These same people, will be the people who make up part of the population of an “Independent Scotland”,a nation of hard working,fair minded and compassionate human beings,who have proven that they can put aside their own problems and step into the shoes of another,and genuinely walk that proverbial
mile with true understanding and warmth of heart,that is essential for a civilised society to exist.

I again thank you for sharing such an intimate and confusing,
not to mention frightening, part of your life with myself and others who will I hope,take comfort from the knowledge that they are not alone,not in our Scotland!

Peace,Love and Gratitude my friend

Paula Rose

Smallaxe Honey – thats’s thousands of Saffron bulbs planted just for you.

Michael McCabe

Stair Music link to youtube.com

Michael McCabe

Long way to Fall link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Paula Rose,

Now we will have a beautiful crocus garden,with the perfume of
Saffron to bring even more calm and delightful harmonic vibrations to your Palace of Peacefulness.Heaven is ours to enjoy at our pleasure.Thank you for the kindness that your heart gives to all.

Peace,Love and Prescious Pervading Perfumes

Michael McCabe

Bob Marley-WAR link to youtube.com

Still Positive.

Paula Rose @11.42

My late husband and I had a friend in our village who loved walking and wherever he went he took acorns to throw on the wayside in the hope trees would grow.

My son and I think of him with warmth in our hearts for he was a good man. What better epitaph than that – except for the trees.

Smallaxe

Michael McCabe:

Michael,

Beautiful girl,beautiful music and beautiful lyrics.

What more could anyone ask for.

Music and beauty can heal the spirit,like nothing else.

Peace,Love and Love of Beauty

Paula Rose

This is everything…

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Michael McCabe:

Michael as you probably know already that Bob Marley song was
taken from Haile Selassie’s Speech to the UN.

Until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned, everywhere is war and until there are no longer first-class and second-class citizens of any nation, until the color of a man’s skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes. And until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race, there is war. And until that day, the dream of lasting peace, world citizenship, rule of international morality, will remain but a fleeting illusion to be pursued, but never attained… now everywhere is war.”

Very relevant in these troubled times

Peace Always

Paula Rose

More from total Yes…

link to youtube.com

K1

Ach! Ye beat me tae it PR!

Brilliant, first saw this Ted talk at that time…just excellent!

Smallaxe

Paula Rose.

Finger playing and percussion on the guitar,pure genius!

Peace Always

Brian Doonthetoon

Due to the overwhelming response to my last two posts, I’ll make this my last one for tonight.

If there’s anyone reading or lurking from the Dundee (and roonaboots) area, you could find the forum below somewhere to vent your spleen about whatever or recall days gone by.

link to dundee3js.freeforums.org

yesindyref2

I’ll never get this EU thing done if I do it properly, so I’m doing it improperly instead. First draft – comments welcome! I’ll probably delete off the old stuff, and get rid of the right-hand sidebar, or change it a lot. Nevermind.

Possibly a main target is YES voters who voted Leave.

link to yesindyref2.wordpress.com

Liz g

Yesindyref2
Looks good so far.
Haven’t had time to look at your links yet.
Only thing I can think of that might help is,the European Commission was a big target for derision by the MSM.
So a wee bit more about it other than”contrary to popular opinion” might be good.

yesindyref2

@Liz g
Yes, I might put some more detail about that at the bottom.

One thing I just changed was to add after the point about being able to stop legislation: ” Of course it’s not all about blocking legislation, but it means Scotland and other small states can get changes to legislation to suit, or even trade something unimportant, with something that matters.”

Don’t want any casual EU readers to get the idea we’re going to be as obstructive as the UK has often been!

yesindyref2

Mmm, glad I did that, starting is the problem, a job started is nearly finished as I always say and then often don’t get back to it for 10 years. But in this case I think I’ve got the structure I want which means I can just sling stuff up and put it in the right category – including Random 🙂

Don’t like the right sidebar all the same.

link to yesindyref2.wordpress.com

cearc

So glad we have a conservatory now. Well done Paula.

I shall donate some tuberoses, mine are currently filling my conservatory with their rich spicy scent.

Ian Brotherhood

Caught wee snippet of this on radio earlier. Instant memory-lane stuff…

Donna Summer, ‘Love’s Unkind’ –

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

I’m so glad that the Rev took my advice and spent all the spondulicks on a fab palm-house for our favourite wingers *skips about all delighted*

Ian Brotherhood

@Paula Rose –

I think you’ll find that a certain dentist in Bath has ALL of Rev’s spondulicks.

Anyway, seeing as you’re in the mood for it…

The Associates, ‘Skipping’ –

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Brian Doonthetoon says:
6 October, 2016 at 2:16 am
“Due to the overwhelming response to my last two posts, I’ll make this my last one for tonight.”

Brian I’m ashamed of myself for not commenting on your posts,
to be honest,I had to watch the first one twice,the fist time I watched it I got carried away,with the boys running around and the landscape,the music and lyrics did not register, so I listened again for a second time,without watching and got it, and enjoyed it.Your other link I thought was really only for folks that knew the local area,so I do admit to not watching.

Big mistake on my part,I had a look tonight and got as far as
Monkey face,then I had to go and change my Tena Man (yes guys for some strange reason they dont tell people that these personal items are made for men also) but I will have another look at that link again later Brian.

By the way Brian, I am really into the John Dummer Bands “Blue” album,sometimes I find it reminiscent of some Jethro Tull stuff,especially “Medicine Weasel”love that track.

To All?
I mentioned Tena Man further up in my post to Brian,I never knew that they existed until I saw them in my local chemist’s
shop,why are these products only advertised for women along with another dozen or so must have products that women dare not go outdoors without first using,maybe its just me but I think it comes across as if it’s still back in the days when women were considered unclean.

It also doesn’t help men who could make use of a product like this, and going by how they are portrayed on TV,are left thinking that they are only made for women.

Sorry for sticking this on to the end of my post to you Brian but It’s a personal bugbear of mine.I can’t make up my mind if its Misogynistic or whatever.Probably just my daft way of thinking. 🙂

Peace Always

Michael McCabe

Hurricane-Bob Dylan (Live 1975) link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Hi Michael,quiet tonight,dont know where everyone is!

I’m just about ready to turn in for the night and up you come
with Dylan,a little bit of Lay Lady Lay wouldn’t go amiss.

Peace Always my musical friend.

Smallaxe

Hi Michael,this is my second post to you,the other one seems to have disappeared,anyway,I said That I was just turning in for tonight and you come up with Dylan.Lay Lady Lay wouldn’t go amiss at this point.

Peace Always

Smallaxe

Oh well,

On my own it seems.Goodnight looby Lou,good night teddy,Andy is saying Goodnight.

Peace Always

Michael McCabe

Hi Smallaxe Just on my way to my my kip as well. link to youtube.com Will try to find a live version later on today. Sleep well my Friend

Liz g

Smallaxe
You weren’t on your own,hun.
You should have gave a shout out on the main thread.
I would have chatted,as you know,wouldnt have made much sense as you also know.
But we could have put the world to rights as people do in the wee sma hoors !!!!!
I am usually around but still not in the habit of checking in over here….my bad.
Anyhoo for when you are back……how are you doing?
And mind and tell Mrs Smallaxe I am asking for her.

Ghillie

Yesindiref2 @ 8.09pm

THAT was incredibly helpful!!!

Have you posted your link anywhere on the main thread? Very very useful. I really did not have a proper grasp of how the EU operated and your definitions are laid out clearly. Thank you = )

Why is that not all explained before we all go to vote for our MEPs?

Smallaxe

Michael McCabe:

Thanks Michael,your a star*.

Smallaxe

liz g:

Hi liz,Im fine thanks,hope you are also,best wishes from both of us.

Peace Always X 2 the other ones for Michael up above.

🙂

Tinto Chiel

Paula Rose, what’s this bloody palm-house doing here? Pure stubbed ma toe soanadid.

Smallaxe: I heard this recently and thought You might like it. Not quite Dylan but almost…..

link to m.youtube.com

Nana

Ooh a fragrant palm house and a chair for me to plonk my rear upon, I’m so honoured.

A wee tune for Mrs Smallaxe, my absolute fav singer. First album I bought was Joan’s. Saved all my pennies for weeks, still has pride of place in my stash.

link to youtube.com

@Smallaxe hoping you are doing well.

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Tinto Chiel:

Donovan,Born in Glasgow,so one of ours,try “Universal Soldier”

Thanks Tinto, for memories of battles fought.

Peace Always

Smallaxe

Nana:

Very thoughtful of you to dedicate a song for my wife,she sends her love to you.

Got your links as always,thanks.

Paula has the place looking superb,hope your chair is comfy

🙂

Peace Always

Tinto Chiel

Yes, Smallaxe, I found it “up the side” while on YouTube for Chase The Wind and listened to it for the first time in over forty years: says it all beautifully. In the 60s people thought all we needed was love and putting a flower in the barrel of a rifle.

So now England will have its cadet corps in every school to fight the foreign foe, while every minority is stigmatised.

How did it get to this?

You could weep.

link to m.youtube.com

Tinto Chiel

As usual, it was the wrong link.

200 lines this time.

It’s me noives, me noives, ah tell ye.

link to m.youtube.com

Tinto Chiel

Sorry, it keeps pasting Catch The Wind, Smallaxe.

DIY necessary, I’m afraid, if anyone’s interested.

Tinto Chiel

Enfin! Changed my computer but this is my fifth attempt to post this. Very strange.

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Tinto Chiel:

Thank you for your efforts to post the correct link,I posted a
reply to you, soon after your 12:17 post,which I notice has failed to appear also(Sabotage?). Maybe someone does not appreciate Donovan as much as ourselves.

I sympathise with you for the frustration something like this can inflict upon you mentally,and admire you for not tossing your computer out of the window (I take it that you didn’t)

Thanks again my friend,for your heroic endeavours,but I fear that our communications are Blowing in the wind of the ether and retrieving them would be as difficult as, Trying to Catch the Wind. 🙂

Peace,Love and Purloined Publications

Tinto Chiel

Probs just GCHQ, Smallaxe. Or maybe the Rev doesn’t like Donovan, Maryhill’s finest.

I haven’t seen this guy in Paula’s Gaff before:

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

Johnny come lately – he’s been here many a time.

Tinto Chiel

Maybe I couldn’t see him THROUGH ALL THESE PALM LEAVES.

*hint*

So why do I think of this?

link to youtube.com

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Smallaxe et al.

RE: Donovan.

In the 60s, The Byrds took Bob Dylan songs and produced rather melodic versions of them – “Mr Tambourine Man” for example.

There was a rather successful band in the US called ‘Paul Revere and The Raiders’, who did the same to Donovan as The Byrds had done unto Dylan.

You can hear their effort here:-

link to youtube.com

It’s certainly in my list of favourite cover versions…

Here’s another Donovan cover from my list.

link to youtube.com

uno mas

Can anyone help me with the archive of documents please?

I have archived the newspaper article ok with the archive.is web page, that´s easy, but now I don´t know how to paste it in to the comments box.

Anyone?

Ian Brotherhood

Serious question –

What was the name of those wee sweets that were sort of wine-gummish, circular, quite sour tastes. I didn’t even like them but they’d ‘do’ if no other sweggers were available. They had a ‘bobbly’ side and a smooth side and were, I suppose, ‘gummy’, but hard, and lasted for yonks if you just sooked them.

It’s been bugging me for days because they had a series of ads, perhaps a decade ago, when they were obviously trying to relaunch them, and the campaign was clearly aimed at people of my generation who remembered the things with mixed feelings. Would like to trace those ads but can’t, not without the name of the dammed things.

Can anyone have a stab at names of sweets which may match the description?

Ian Brotherhood

Quite hard to find a decent version of Calum Kennedy singing ‘Dark Lochnagar’, but this one’s not bad.

Isn’t the man a ringer for Albert Finney?
Fine chanter anyroad.

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Ian Brotherhood:

Rowantrees fruit gums?

Peace Always

carjamtic

Smallaxe

you beat me to it lol.

This one’s for our hostess Paula Rose,fantastic place you have here.

Unexpectadly,bumped into an old friend,hope you don’t mind,I invied her for a wee heat,it’s baltic out there.

😉

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Has anyone played “the Blind Boys of Alabama”as yet?

Or to be a bit more real “Two Cigarettes in an Ashtray”
by Patsy Cline.

🙂

Peace Always

K1

Uno mas, once you have the archived copy, just copy ‘that’ link from your address bar and then paste into comment box.

K1

rownatrees fruit pastilles?

Smallaxe

Brian Doonthetoon:

You got me with the Deep Purple track Brian,my favourite album
of theirs was Deep Purple in Rock,but your one got past me for
some reason.

Liz g

Ok now I don’t feel so daft asking a question about an old advertising campaign that occasionally bug’s me.
Can anyone remember what we would have been able to get.

Halfway Down Robertson Street?

Ian Brotherhood

@Smallaxe –

🙂

Many thanks for that suggestion.

Had a brief flutter of excitement when I found a wiki-page about them, but it’s not the same thing I remember.

The ones I have in mind were quite thin? Hard, and not even properly ‘chewy’ as-such ’cause they’d just split and the bits would stick to your teeth. I remember them having the same consistency as ‘Cherry Lips’.

link to en.wikipedia.org

Smallaxe

liz g:

Was it wallpaper and paint or carpets?

Peace Always

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Smallaxe.

I’m pretty certain the Deep Purple album with “Lalena” was before Ian Gillan replaced Rod Evans as vocalist. It was 1969 after all.

There’s another cracker of a track on it called “April”, which, I think, preceded Jon Lord’s “Concerto For Group And Orchestra” or whatever it was called. Maybe “April” gave Jon Lord the confidence to take things further. It begrail,

link to youtube.com

Here’s another Deep Purple track that may have escaped your musical net:-

link to youtube.com

To finish off this Deep Purple post, a rather large nod in the direction of “In Rock” – my favourite track from the album.

link to youtube.com

Liz g

Smallaxe can’t remember for sure what it was for, just mind the wee jingo.
Paint or carpeting doesn’t ring any bells.

Smallaxe

Ian Brotherhood:

I have to ask,if they were thin,hard,not even properly chewy,they would just split and stick to your teeth.
Why did you eat Them?.

Or is it a long forgotten memory of chewin’the buttons aff yer
jaiket?.

🙂

Peace Always

uno mas

@K1

Thanks.

Posted successfuly over on topic 🙂

Ian Brotherhood

@K1 –

Cheers, but no, it’s not Fruit Pastilles, although I have a nagging feeling that they were called ‘pastilles’, so maybe the chunkier sugar-coated version was an update.

If so, there was a cross-over period when you could still get the flatter, smaller, harder version.

Then again, if they tried to resurrect the ‘old’ version, definitely this side of the millenium, they would’ve had a ‘new’ name then, but they didn’t – it was the same as the old one…

This is driving me fucking mental…

Nana

@Ian

Type old favourite fruit flavoured sweets or retro sweets into google, click images and drool

Smallaxe

Brian Doonthetoon:

You can describe them no other way but Orchestral,as far as I’m concerned Brian,I think they did a cover of HELP by the Beatles on one of their Albums?

Peace Always

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Smallaxe.

“Help” –

link to youtube.com

Or you could appreciate this version…

link to youtube.com

carjamtic

Smallaxe

The reason IB canny remember the name ,he never asked for them,cos being Scottish,he just used to steal them.

Liz g
I used to work at the Anderson Shopping Centre and walk past Robertson Street,(for 7/8 years),remember the advert,google says Robertson St. Wallpaper and Paint,canny argue wae google.

🙂

Michael McCabe

Automatic Blue. link to youtube.com

Thepnr

@carjamtic

Whit school did you go to and when 🙂

I was at Provanhall Primary starting in 1964

carjamtic

The PNR

St.Clare’s,same year,happy days 🙂

Thepnr

@carjamtic

Was just wondering. Guess it would have been too much of a coincidence if we went to the same school. LOL never mind.

Ian Brotherhood

Ach, FFS, no-one can help me out here?

Must I endure this mockery?

You think I imagined this sweet?

‘Tis but a figment?

Hear ye this, and hear it well – I will locate the thing I’m on about, and when I do?

When I do?

Ha!!!

You’ll hear about it then…

🙁

Naw, that’s not ‘angry’…

:?;

Naw…

:>*

Ach, fuck it…

YOUSE’LL HEAR ABOUT IT ANYWAY!

Smallaxe

Thepnr & carjamtic:

I was at Cranhill Senior Secondary by that time!

Now you youngsters get tae yer bed!

Peace Always

🙂

Thepnr

@Ian Brotherhood

Ok Ian

I can’t have you suffering, off for a lookee. See what i can do 🙂

Smallaxe

Brian Doonthetoon:

Thanks for that,Iwas beginning to doubt myself.

Peter Sellers:Pure Class.

Peace Always

Michael McCabe

Radar Love (Live 1973) link to youtube.com

carjamtic

Thepnr

We could swap a few stories I’m sure,I offer you this,colour TV arrives,off the scale excitement (meter on the back,Stepek’s).

The Olympics is on,whole family in living room transfixed at of all things,gymnastics,Olga Kolbert vs Nellie Kim,final piece of equipment only half a point in it,oh naw it’s the…..Beam.

Nellie goes second she needs a perfect score to win,all is going well,a couple of wee wobbles,but she’s ok,final 30 seconds nobody can actually breathe,will she do it ?.

Aul faither pipes up,innocently,’She better be careful,if she slips she gae herself a sore crack’

Did she win,who knows,I was too busy,biting the carpet,trying to hold back the laughter,tears running down face,I was not the only one,the whole house was shaking….stupid auld git.

🙂

#daysofinnocence

yesindyref2

@Ghillie
Thanks for that, and Tinto Chiel in the main thread. Did some more tidying up and denaffifying of the sidebar. I’ll probably delete off the archive stuff, want the whole thing easy, straight and to the point. Enough for the night, time to chill out a bit

link to youtube.com

Thepnr

@Ian Brotherhood

After copious research I’m hoping it might be one of these three:

link to aquarterof.co.uk

link to aquarterof.co.uk

link to aquarterof.co.uk

Smallaxe

Michael McCabe:

First link was Hypnotically sung and illustrated.

Golden Earring.One hit wonder?

Peace Always

Michael McCabe

@ Ian Brotherhood Look up Little Trinkets Sakuma Drops. Did they look like them ?

carjamtic

Ian B

Midget Gems ?

Ian Brotherhood

@Thepnr/Alex,

Naw, man, sorry, it’s none of them, but thanks for trying.

That’s me in pure J. R. Hartley mode now, moping about a la recherche etc…

Few years ago, on a whim, I took my lass for a drive down to Wigtown. It was quiet, but we had a great time raking about the bookshops.

In one, a very elderly dude was in a narrow offshoot which contained stuff I also wanted to have a look at, so I lingered…

The auld yin let out a cry, whereupon a couple appeared, as if from nowhere – his son/daughter and partner, who, presumably, had also been searching.

That man found the book with his name on it, and had close family with him to share the event. They were properly, seriously joyful, whatever had happened. They were cuddling/laughing/crying. A very personal/important moment, and I was privileged to witness it at close hand.

It really does happen!

Hoots all!

Michael McCabe

@ Smallaxe Golden Earring In there time have done 13 US Tours, They have opened for Santana Rush The Doobie Brothers. Kiss and Aerosmith have opened for them. They have had 5 number 1s in there own Country (Holland) They have done not to Bad. They only had one big hit here though.

yesindyref2

@Michael McCabe
Tune. Have driven to that one here’s a different version link to youtube.com

and then there’s this

link to youtube.com

or this!

link to youtube.com

or of course this one

link to youtube.com

Lucky Fred! Driver looks familiar all the same.

Thepnr

Have got to copy Arbroath1320s link from the main thread over to here. Not everyone in England is falling for Theresa May’s shit.

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

I’m amazed at the musical knowledge we are getting here.

Now I’m going to bed,how about some Nazareth,”Morning Dew” for a lullaby.With all this driving going on,”I am the Passenger”

Nite All.

Peace,Love and Music*****

Smallaxe

Thepnr,

That put a smile on my face,I thought that I was going to dream about imaginary sweeties halfway down Robertson St!

Peace Always

Goodnight

Michael McCabe

@ Smallaxe. link to youtube.com

Michael McCabe

@ yesindyref2 Liked the tracks you linked there. Are you in love with your Car ? link to youtube.com

Thepnr

@Michael McCabe

Well done you on finding that excellent Nazarath video for Smallaxe. It was class.

Michael McCabe

@ Thepnr Glad you Liked it. Hope you and yours are doing well. Hopefully see you at the March on the 22nd ?

Liz g

Ian Brotherhood
If you’re still around Google the phrase… Fruit Gums Last A Long Long Time advert….
On the list you will get links one of which is for pin interest.

I think that’s the sweet’s your lookin for
Rowantrees Fruit Gums.
The phrase is from a 1974 advert.

Michael McCabe

@ Thepnr Arbroath1320s link was great. Cheers for that. I found this through that link. The Ballad of Lidl & Aldi link to youtube.com

yesindyref2

@Michael McCabe
Back in those days, well the 70s, I practically used to live in the car! (or cars, all old, green shield stamp spanners, hoist, gantry, torque wrench, sockets, oily rag).

Home was where the hifi was.

David

To Liz G, asking about an old tv ad which had the line “Halfway Down Robertson Street”. (Meaning the Robertson St. in Glasgow.)

One guy on a Glasgow forum thinks it was a paint shop, and another says:

Duncanson’s (I think) I remember this ad when I was young – a furniture store in Glasgow. The ad always ended with the annoying echo of “Halfway down Robertson Street, Halfway down Robertson Street, Halfway down etc. Never gave it another thought until I went in to the store many years later. Couldn’t believe my ears as the assistant replied ” So you want a suite, so you want a suite, so you” etc.

Also “specialist wallcoverings halfway down Robertson street”

But the winner is:
ROBERSTSON STREET CASH & CARRY.
Here’s a link to an ad in the Glasgow Herald, Nov 4, 1978, for it:

link to news.google.com

Robertson St.? I’m halfway down Memory Lane!

Liz g

Ah my mystery is solved Thank You David.

David

Ian Brotherhood, See those sweets you’re trying to name, if they are not Rowntree’s Fruit Gums then we need more clues before we (The Wings Brains Trust & Palm House Gardeners Association) can help you.
1: were the sweets individually wrapped
2: did they come in a roll or a bag
3: what colour was the packaging
4: did they have a hole in the middle, like Polo Fruits
5: remember any flavours or colours of the sweets.

If they’ve been advertised on tv then the company must be big, or have some money, i.e. maybe it’s an international lot.
If they had a Grape flavour, for example, then I’d assume they were US, or maybe European.

You said their consistency was more splintery than gummy. That sounds like ‘boilings’. Or ‘Travel Sweets’, the expensive ones sold in wee metal tins. Michael McCabe’s “Little Trinkets Sakuma Drops” would fit the bill for that type.

Let’s consult the experts at the Sweetshop:
1.bp.blogspot.com/-hqN23pjxW0k/UP3p0P4SdZI/AAAAAAAAHRw/qygR3z6HoBs/s1600/the+sweet+shop+1968.jpg

Sweet (aka Sweetshop) “Ballroom Blitz”:

link to youtube.com

And once this vital mystery is solved, we can get back to the lesser matter of the struggle for independence. 😉

Nana

@Ian Brotherhood

Midget gems?

There’s a retro sweet shop near us, she gets her supplies from ebay.

Smallaxe

Michael McCabe:

Thanks Michael,you could not have picked a better version of
Morning Dew,excellent. 🙂

Peace Always

Thepnr

@Michael McCabe

lidldealdi lidldealdi lidldealdide 🙂

Be humming that all day now!

Tinto Chiel

Ian, just a thought: try Glickman’s near Calton Books in London Road the next time you’re up. They do classic confectionery and have a web site. You might find what you are looking for.

Tinto Chiel

Or better still, go to Calton Books afterwards for a wee rummage.

Smallaxe

I keep in touch with our American cousins,I thought this may be of interest,the parallel with our own situation is easily seen.

Nuclear information and Resource Service
Takoma Park Maryland

Dear Smallaxe,

The nuclear industry is coming after our wallets again – and there’s more than money at stake.

And we need your help to stop them. Build the #NuclearIsDirty campaign.

For the last two years, nuclear power companies have been desperately trying to get billions of dollars in subsidies to keep their dirty, dangerous, old reactors from closing. Activists in Illinois, Ohio, and New York have been doing everything they can to stop them.

But in August, the governor of New York buckled, and included nuclear power in the state’s new Clean Energy Standard: if the decision stands, New Yorkers will have to pay $7.6 billion in subsidies to nuclear power–three times as much as the state would spend on renewable energy sources, just to prop up four old nukes.

Within days, nuclear corporations were lobbying state governors and legislatures, convincing them to declare nuclear power clean energy–and give them New York-size bailouts.

Help us build the #NuclearIsDirty campaign and send the message–don’t waste our clean energy dollars on dirty nuclear power.

And here’s the kicker: if other states follow New York—or the next President makes it a national subsidy—it would snowball into a $250 billion bailout. Connecticut alone would fork out $5 billion. New Jersey, $10 billion. Pennsylvania and Illinois, $30 billion each.

We have to stop this train before it starts, or it will block renewable energy for the next 15 years.

The nuclear industry acts like our energy dollars grow on trees, but in the real world, this is a choice. We need to put up solar panels on our rooftops, not prop up dirty, dangerous old nukes.

We are not alone in having problems with the Nuke Nutters my friends!

Peace Always ALLWAYS

Ian Brotherhood

Thanks a’body for trying to help me get rid of this brain-itch.

It must be the Rowntree’s Fruit Gums.

But anyway, here’s one of the greatest ads ever made, for Rowntree’s Fruit Pastilles:

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Ian Brotherhood:

🙂 🙂 🙂

Peace,Love and Laugh’s

K1

Ah’m fair drownin’ in childhood tv advert memories noo…it’s def fruit gums, even ended up watchin’ americans tryin’ them oot:

link to youtube.com

K1

That fruit pastilles ad was laugh out loud Ian… Brilliant!

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi peeps.

If you’re hoping to watch the Scotland game online, it should be available at this site:-

link to crichd.tv

The myp2p site doesn’t seem to be carrying any info on games; it’s showing blank where the schedules usually are.

Stoker

IanB

Is it Jelly Tots? Used to cling tae yer teeth like glue!

BTW, Ian, the Quarter Gill has changed hands, called Kellies(sp?) now. Not opened yet, still trying to clear the licensing. Might be worth checking out when they do open up to see if they’ve revamped the upstairs, for possible future gatherings.

Stairs may be problematic for a few Wingers though and who exactly is Kelly, eh? We wouldn’t want to be putting money into the pocket of certain Glasgow Kellies, eh!

Back to sweeties, i miss Spangles, remember them? Oh, and Rosey Apples (or Beach Balls).

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi peeps.

Sorry – I wouldn’t trust this link –

link to crichd.tv

It’s throwing up false virus warnings on the page that is supposedly the Scotland game. I’d avoid it.

Smallaxe

My earliest memories of buying sweeties,is more about how they were served,Westmuir St.in Parkhead,there was a sweet shop, close to Crail St.They had trays.4 for a penny tray,the hap’nie tray,the penny tray and the “is it your Birthday?”tray.

I used to love what we called hap’nie liquorice,about the size
of a fag, but not as thick.We either sucked them,or we put them in a bottle of water and kept it under the bed,until the water turned black,and then it was called sugarolly watter? don’t ask me why.Dangerous stuff,,it tasted great but you had to know your limit,or you spent the rest of the day,sitting on the toilet.Like “A Tale of two Cities” it could be the best of days,or the worst of days. 🙂

Peace Always

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi peeps.

I think I’ve found a clean, working stream:-

link to cricfree.sc

I’m getting no popups but that may be because I’m using Adblock Plus and I’m on a Mac. ‘Let the buyer beware’…

Ian Brotherhood

@Stoker –

Thanks for heads-up re QG.

Never know – they might squeeze in a wee lift, then it’d be just ideal. I really like it as a poss venue long-term. We could make it a place of our own.

Ian Brotherhood

@Smallaxe –

Thanks for solving another wee mystery in my memory – my Granda used to mention ‘sugarolly water’, perhaps as part of a short rhyme. He never did explain what it meant.

First time I’ve seen/heard that term since, ooooh, late 70s.

🙂

Tinto Chiel

It’s dark now. I can see sparks……

link to youtube.com

yesindyref2

What, adverts now? This was always my favourite.

link to youtube.com

It’s the balloon, honest! sexy Great balloon.

Dr Jim

Info for those who want all the channels but don’t want to pay SKY for them
Go on ebay type in OPENBOX it costs around £35 then they email you to offer you a gift box for around £5 so you pay give or take in total £35 or so
The box arrives and you get emailed a set of code numbers that you enter in with the remote provided and Kerblammie every single Sky channel unscrambled pops up sports, movies, docs, geo,the lot
You renew the codes, (that’s what the gift box is) each year for £5 or so

Ooh! and it’s HD as well

Ian Brotherhood

@Dr Jim –

Hoots mon.

I’ve instructed my staff (i.e. the weans) to investigate this asap.

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi peeps.

In Dundee, that concoction wiz crehd “sugarelly wahttir”. Tried it once – bland, never repeated. Same thing tried with a cinnamon stick – never repeated.

Onnyhoo, typing about adverts, as has been going on, here’s #1, #2 and #3 from a well known series. You can get #4 by checking out the list on the right of the YouTube page.

link to youtube.com

link to youtube.com

link to youtube.com

Liz g

Yesindayref2 @ 8.45

Still say the Public Information Ads,were the absolute best.

Petunia wanting young men to learn to swim.= Stereo Types
And definitely everything that Charlie Says.= Received wisdom
Green Cross Man = OMG
Sparklers can stay hot = Don’t let girls near anything.

How did we ever survive?

Ian Brotherhood

@Smallaxe et al –

The Yes movement, or whatever else it might be called by different folk, has always been there, and always will be.

‘We ain’t ever getting older…’

The Chainsmokers, ‘Closer’

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

@BDTT –

🙂

Cheers for that. Amazing.

Rings a bell – esp the ‘lead’ character with the tash – but heaven only knows how the memory retains this stuff.

Brian Doonthetoon

And one of the best ads to be produced by a Scottish company…

It has nothing to do with Simple Minds – the music track is “You’ve Got The Power” by Win.

link to youtube.com

One more ad…

The music is “A ‘B’ Side” by Manfred Mann. The model is Caroline Munro. Link to the tune after the ad link.

link to youtube.com

And the song. It was the B side of “Ragamuffin Man”.

link to youtube.com

Ronnie

BDtt,

In Aiberdeen, in the Fifties, we ca’d it ‘black sugar ailly’.

The mair ye put in, the stronger it got.

‘Scoofs’ were always preceded by a vigorous shake of the bottle.

Probably accounts for my hard drinking tastes these days.

Brian Doonthetoon

Is it possible to go O/T in ‘off-topic’?

I have “Cabaret” on BBC2 on as my background audiovisual experience while I’m typing…

When I was younger, I thought Liza Minelli a strange looking woman. Now? I find her not a beautiful woman but she has a certain pzzazz, as Sally Bowles. Ah widdnae chuck ‘er oot the fire exit at the back seat on the upper deck of the Fintry bus.

OH JEEZ! “Tomorrow Belongs To Me” has just started… Must be for the Mayfly…

Brian Doonthetoon

And RE: “Tomorrow Belongs To Me”…

From:-

link to en.wikipedia.org

“The “Tomorrow Belongs to Me” scene was highly controversial and potentially confused with a real Nazi anthem.
John Kander and Fred Ebb were accused of anti-Semitism until the world found that both were Jews.[15] According to a November 1976 Variety article, the film was censored in West Berlin when it was first released there theatrically, with the sequence featuring the Hitler Youth singing “Tomorrow Belongs to Me” having been deleted.

The article stated that the elimination had been made “because of the feeling that it might stir up resentments in the audience by showing the sympathizers for the Nazi movement during the `30s.” The sequence was restored, however, when the film was shown on West German television on 7 November 1976.”

Brian Doonthetoon

To finish off tonight, before I commence to consume my pasta bolognese and turn in, I have to offer this:-

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

Cabaret – vital.

Michael McCabe

@ Ian Brotherhood Have you ever tried Carolina Chocolate Drops ? link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

If I find just one sweetie on the floor – just one…

link to youtube.com

K1

*drops dainty wrapper oan the flair…(well if there’s dancin’ as ‘punishment’, ahm in!)*

Smallaxe

Just popped in for a minute.Try/

The Chaps, McRawhide/YouTube

Peace Always

Stoker

Brian Doonthetoon says on 8 October, 2016 at 11:50 pm
“Is it possible to go O/T in ‘off-topic’?”

Naw, but it helps if you’re off your rocker!
_____

Ian Brotherhood says on 8 October, 2016 at 7:53 pm
“…re QG…I really like it as a poss venue long-term.”

I’ve no idea how the newly revamped inners look Ian, as i said, it’s not opened back up yet but i completely get your thinking – it is but a mere hop, skip and jump from Glasgow Central. Well, that’ll depend on how intoxicated one finds oneself! 🙂

Hopefully you’ll get a chance to suss it out at some point and take in the lay of the land with a few probing enquiries then, i suppose, we could take it from there.

I’ll not be able to get to Glasgow this side of Ne’erday due to commitments and projects so the onus is on you. Orrabest! 😉
_____

Psst, Paula, no wan tae clype bit that Smallaxe hiz goat this place littered, look doon behin yon couch!
_____

Smallaxe, our parents and grandparents often referred to Sugarallywater but like IanB i’ve never heard mention of it since the late 70s, until you brought it up. Am no keen on liquorice! 🙁

Liz g

Stoker @ 4.38
Glad tae hear yir no a wee grassin bam pot.
Cause if it wiz you me in Smallaxe….well we will need tae find so many sweet’s ah canny imagin how we did manage.
Bit don’t underestimate us.!!!
If sweeties is whit it takes …… Scotland will find enough.
.

Smallaxe

Liz g:Stoker

Here is where my sweetie money goes.

Take a moment to be proud of your latest victories on human rights.
Amnesty International UK Home
Amnesty International UK
Thank you

Dear Smallaxe,

You have proved once again the impact an individual can have by being active on human rights. It’s time to take a moment to reflect on the power of your actions.

Your urgent response ensured 10-year old Ghina received life-saving surgery in Syria. While your persistence towards justice has seen Belén freed after two-years in pre-trial detention, where she was held behind bars for suffering a miscarriage.

People power is behind the success of all our work – we’re so excited to have you as part of this unstoppable movement.

fairness, freedom and truth.

Kate Allen
Director
Amnesty International UK

I get great pleasure receiving letters like this one,it makes me feel like I myself,have been given a precious gift and really I have.I still can do this as an Individual,I imagine the day when we all receive a similar letter informing us
that we now live in an Independent Scotland.Hail Alba

Peace and Love
is Power

Smallaxe

liz g & Stoker:

Here is where my sweetie money goes.

Take a moment to be proud of your latest victories on human rights. View this email online

Amnesty International UK Home
Amnesty International UK
Thank you

Dear Smallaxe,

You have proved once again the impact an individual can have by being active on human rights. It’s time to take a moment to reflect on the power of your actions.

Your urgent response ensured 10-year old Ghina received life-saving surgery in Syria. While your persistence towards justice has seen Belén freed after two-years in pre-trial detention, where she was held behind bars for suffering a miscarriage.

fairness, freedom and truth.
Kate Allen
Director
Amnesty International UK

I must admit to a selfishness on my part,receiving mail like this gives me a buzz and makes the day seem like Christmas day.

I await the day,when we all get a similar letter telling us that we live in an Independent Scotland.

Peace and Love is People Power

Smallaxe

Twice as good,

Sorry for the double post but I was sure that the first one had dissavannished into space,it still hadn’t appearshown after 15mins.I hope that the Rev.Stu.does’nt come after me with his new flickhammer.

Peace Always. 🙂

Tinto Chiel

All right, who’s been eating the Bazooka Joes and the Fruit Salads?

I was rummaging about in my favourites box and look what fell on the floor. I think it was BDTT who posted this a wee while ago: a choir that can blow your socks off and yet can be pianissimo when required.

The soloist is simply amazing. Apart from his beautiful voice,those long phrases…

link to youtube.com

Hey, Paula Rose, did you get a palm-house ‘cos you wouldn’t have a conservaTORY in the house?

Boom! boom!

Thepnr

@Tinto Chiel

That’s you gone and done it now Tinto, playing the Red Army Choir automatically moves you up 50 places on “the list”.

Got any mair?

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Tinto Chiel.

Wizznae me that posted the Red Army video.

Ian Brotherhood

Red Army choir – magnificent stuff.

Brought a wee tear to the eye cause we lost our big Labrador this morning. Baxter was 10. Can’t believe the past decade has gone so quickly. He was a typical chocolate Lab, daft as a brush but a’body loved him. Was diagnosed with diabetes at the start of the year and he went completely blind but he still enjoyed getting out and about and the kids always made a fuss of him.

So long big yin – ye left a whole lot of cracking memories and we’ll never forget ye.

🙂

michael McCabe

The Waterboys- Red Army Blues. link to youtube.com

Tinto Chiel

Thepnr: fifty places? That’s a bonus! Heeheeheeheehee.
I think there’s a lot more “up the side” on YouTube, actually.

If it wasn’t yourself Brian, maybe it was Ian B.

Sorry to hear you news, Ian. Hope your wee ones aren’t too upset. It’s always tough to lose a dog.

Ian Brotherhood

@Tinto Chiel –

Cheers bud.

Nah, wisny me who posted Red Army…

Are you sure it was here? I’ve never seen them before.

We’ll get to the bottom of this yet – was it perhaps CamB?

Tinto Chiel

No, not CamB, I think. I’m pretty sure it was a regular intellectual on here but just can’t remember. Maybe Amber Rudd will name and shame her/him…….

That’s a powerful video, Michael. The Red Army lost 80000+ men during the battle for Berlin, with about three times that wounded/sick. No wonder Churchill and Truman let them get on with it.

Thepnr

@Ian Brotherhood

Aw man. Sorry about the dug. I love mine, they really are a part of the family. Each have their own personalities and you can’t help but love them as I’m sure you loved yours.

Condolences.

Thepnr

Right! All you that deny playing the Red Army Choir are going up 50 places on “the list” anyway. So no point denying it.

Yer guilty, I say so.

Paula Rose

This Red Army Choir?

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Ian Brotherhood:

I had a German Shepard for only 10 short years,her back end went and she lost the use of her back legs and was miserable.
One of the hardest things I had to do was to carry her into the vet to be put to sleep.I can still weep if I think of that day.You and your family have my sympathy.

Peace and Love to you and your Family

Liz g

Ian Brotherhood
Sorry for your loss.
Breaking you’re heart is the only guarantee that comes with a dog.
Like many others I have been there so my heartfelt sympathy to you and yours.x

Thepnr

@Paula Rose

Insubordination of the type you have clearly shown is unacceptable. You have gone up 100 places on “the list”.

Put it this way when they start rounding us up. You are FUCKED.

PS Did you see what came on next one of my very favourites 🙂

link to youtube.com Meh Da would have loved it.

Ian Brotherhood

@Smallaxe, Liz G, Thepnr –

Thanks pals.

yesindyref2

I posted Kalinka long time ago, that Annie Laurie is splendid!

link to youtube.com

or a dance version with an early example of break dancing at about 3.35. Ignore 3 minutes of bowing at the end!

link to youtube.com

Brian Doonthetoon

This comment, and the next one or two, are my input for tonight.

Last week, Ronnie Anderson and I were blethering about how well the Graham Brown Band had gone down at ‘Hope Over Fear’ in George Square on 17th September.

Neither of us could remember the correct title of the song that is sometimes called ‘Union Man’. I eventually sussed it out.

The band are on the lineup for Hollyrood on 22nd September so here’s some of their stuff as a taster.

“Watch Us Rise” (the correct title for ‘Union Man’).
link to youtube.com

“Sunshine On Leith”.
link to youtube.com

“I Can Hear The Nation”.
link to youtube.com

More in my next post.

Brian Doonthetoon

Another three from the GBB…

“We Will Be Free”.
link to youtube.com

“Shine A Light On Me”.
link to youtube.com

“Loch Tay Boat Song”.
link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

Oor Baxter was named after this dude:

Baxter Dury, ‘Claire’ –

link to youtube.com

Brian Doonthetoon

Tidying up the loose ends…
(Because Paula Rose HATES loose ends lying about.)

In my YouTube search for GBB, this video turned up. Those of us who were at Glasgow Green will remember the drone that was seen above us. Here’s the video.

link to youtube.com

Second loose end…
Graham Brown was, previously, with a band called Amber Road. There’s a rather good video of that band performing “I Can Hear The Nation” at the Tiree musical festival in 2013. I first came across it in the weeks before indyref1. Found it rather uplifting. It wiz a bra’ day an’ a’…

link to youtube.com

Lastly, this isn’t really a loose end. For some reason, it popped into my head while I was Graham Browning – don’t know why.

It’s a rather clever video. The scene has Weird Al, who has inherited a TV station (the film is “UHF”), trying to come up with ideas to make a success of it. This clip is a dream sequence he goes into. I audio taped it and played it regularly, for a wee while in my rock club residency in the 90s. I know – I am also weird…

link to youtube.com

carjamtic

Ian B

Sore one dude,cool name,once had a chipmunk named Angie….don’t ask.

My gravatar is 10 + ,retriever,back end is going,no more long walks,just wee short ones.

😉

Smallaxe

Tinto Chiel:
If you remember I lost a post,it was in answer to you. I can not reproduce the post.but here I try to explain the meaning.

Tinto Chiel 7/10/16 12:17pm
In the 60s people thought all we needed was love and putting a flower in the barrel of a rifle.
“So now England will have its cadet corps in every school to fight the foreign foe, while every minority is stigmatised.

How did it get to this?

You could weep.”

I remember the days,which now seem such a long time ago and I still believe that putting flowers into the barrels of rifles,was the right thing to do. I think that the analogy still holds strong. I can still be mocked to this day,for what some people think is hippy claptrap that I continually spout,even here,on the Wings main topic page I have been called a “comic singer”or a ” butterfly lover”and told that I shouldn’t be putting Peace and Love on the end of my posts,someone even said that it was wrong when I referred to Nana as Sweetheart.Well is that a Fact!

“We won the War” people shout,I ask against who?
The enemy they say,I ask who’s enemy,your Enemy?
Of course it was against our enemy,they tell me
Are you sure it was your enemy,I ask once more
Yes we’re sure, of course we are,They told us so
THEY!!

Are you sure you know who the enemy is,or is it They! they who decide who your enemy is today.They! who told you who your enemy was yesterday,or who it will be tomorrow.Was your enemy that farmer tending his field,or the women looking after their children at home,while older children are at school,trying to learn enough so as to earn enough, to provide for their own family when they have one,if they have one.IF the bombs don’t come before then.

Or could it be that we are the enemy,we,in who’s name the bombs are dropped.We who watched as our Westminster Government cheered, as again we attack another land, a land of which we know little,a people who we have no quarrel with,nor them with us.

People who we are told are Collateral damage,when Bride and Groom are blown to pieces along with the celebrating guests,when a school or a hospital is “mistakenly” blasted by a “Smart bomb”. I speak of only what I and you have seen,sometimes even in glorious technicolour. I speak of Korea,Vietnam,Iraq,Afganistan and now Syria. I see our brave young soldiers being “Repatriated”in flag draped coffins,or horribly mutilated,mentally and physically,only to be forgotten by They! they who sent them For What.

Were they sent thousands of miles away from home,to protect us,or was it for Profit?for oil,for our special relationship? I have no answers to give to you,or to myself,but I know and have known for many years,that war is not the answer.We Scots are fine warriors and we have fought and if necessary will do so again,with honour but we should do so only if directly threatened by any enemy, foolish enough to do so.

We have an enemy at our gate now,not yet with bullets or bombs,but with austerity,food banks and sanctions against the weakest members of our society,our old folks,our children,our European brothers and sisters who are Scots by choice,THEY! who are against our Independence,THEY! who plunder our beautiful country for Her resources and who lie and cheat to lay hands on them.

I know my fellow countrymen and women to be generous,and fair minded people,the great majority of whom will sell their products for a fair price and give their labour and work hard for a fair wage.This world would be very much poorer if not for the enlightenment of this small but wealthy countrys resources,ideas and industry.The enemy is not England or its people,but a Cabal of certain individuals who have a psychopathic right of entitlement passed down to them from centuries past, to the present day.We can defeat them by way of a vote,bloodlessly at the ballot box,scrutinised by an international body of people who will ensure fairness,something that I’m as near to certain, has been missing for many years.

Peace and Love,I will always maintain this to be the only way,the right way,I don’t mean this as some sort of airy fairy hippy philosophy,I don’t love everyone,in fact there are plenty of people that I can’t tolerate for a second.Mankind as a whole though I do love and wish peace for all.

WE,did not win the war,but THEY did. Ordinary people don’t and can’t win,Ordinary people on any side don’t win wars,but they pay in blood,loss,grief and generations of young people who never got the chance to grow up and live their lives in Peace.But those who sent them,THEY won,they filled their pockets and offshore havens with the booty made by arms trading to both sides in every war,also they are still drug dealers,not opium forced into China by gunboat any more,but by heroin sold to our young people,why else did we see fields of poppies being guarded by our own and American soldiers,not burned as should have been done.One reason and one reason only,profit for them.This I Know!

We are now in another war and we can not lose this one.We now know our Enemy,THEY are the enemy,they want what is ours,watch them, they act like every domestic abuser,first they will and are trying to isolate us from our European family,some of us may think so what! it’s not a great family anyway,maybe not,but right at this moment Europe is all that stands between us and Them.

A Scotland peaceful and prosperous in which our children and grandchildren can thrive is worth fighting for,well worth it!

I should not be writing like this on O/T,but I know for sure that they would not want me to post it on the main thread,that was made plain enough to me a while ago.I hope no one here is annoyed,I know myself that it’s a bit heavyI have an appointment tomorrow,so I am posting it now,so the fun music and usual hilarity can commence later.

I will continue to end my posts with the sentiment in which I believe,

Peace and Love to you All
This war we,will win!

Goodnight and dreams of freedom my friends.

Stoker

IanB

Here’s a wee tune to get your toes tapping. A few big names have done their versions but this is my favourite. For you and Baxter!

Wilson Pickett – Somethin’ You Got
link to youtube.com

Night troops!

Ian Brotherhood

@Stoker –

🙂

Cheers mucho.

Anyone who watched any of that surreal ‘debate’ last night is probably in serious need of cheering-up today.

K1

I watched it…ah huv…nae words.

Andrew McLean

Sweets from our formative years, they can only be Soor plooms, I think that’s how we spelt them, I remember always having a paper bag full of congealed plooms in my school satchel, It was leather and always had a smell of leather and melted sweets. I can still imagine sucking the off the remnants of the paper bag before my mouth shrivelled up. In fact looking at Ruth Davidson’s face when Nicola serves her her lunch at FMQ, is a good approximation of soor ploom face.
Midget Gem’s as someone mentioned, came later, still in the same paper bag that seemed to have first lick of the sweets, but now safely enclosed within a faux leather blue bag, with Addidas printed on the sides in large white letters.

yesindyref2

Dedicated to thepnr for keeping a cool head and never losing sight of the objective – Independence.

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

Thepnr “a cool head”? Heard it all now.

Thepnr

@yesindyref2

Hey thanks, not often I get anything dedicated to me here. Usually abuse often deserved 🙂

@Paula

Hothead! Sometimes, but sometimes cool head too in my more lucid moments lol.

yesindyref2

Indeed, I’ve seen both. Genuinely meant though for your performance in the main thread.

Liz g

Hey Smallaxe you have been AWOL all day yesterday and while I hope you are fast asleep now,can you just say Hi at coffee time.x

Also Still positive where you at ????? enquiring minds need to know.x

cearc

Nana,

I’ll probably come over for the WGD do.

Tell me, have the improvements to The National by the new owners included removing the abominable rag from the building? (don’t fancy driving back)?

Nana

@cearc

There’s no need for you to go to the national, I have room. Can you manage stairs?

Andrew McLean

Alex at 8:02

Dedicated for you. link to youtube.com

Andrew McLean

Alex I did try to send you a link, it won’t load so try again. link to youtube.com

Andrew McLean

And Ian,
A poem for you!

THERE is sorrow enough in the natural way
From men and women to fill our day;
And when we are certain of sorrow in store,
Why do we always arrange for more?
Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
Buy a pup and your money will buy
Love unflinching that cannot lie
Perfect passion and worship fed
By a kick in the ribs or a pat on the head.
Nevertheless it is hardly fair
To risk your heart for a dog to tear.

When the fourteen years which Nature permits
Are closing in asthma, or tumour, or fits,
And the vet’s unspoken prescription runs
To lethal chambers or loaded guns,
Then you will find – it’s your own affair, –
But … you’ve given your heart to a dog to tear.

When the body that lived at your single will,
With its whimper of welcome, is stilled (how still!),
When the spirit that answered your every mood
Is gone – wherever it goes – for good,
You will discover how much you care,
And will give your heart to a dog to tear!

We’ve sorrow enough in the natural way,
When it comes to burying Christian clay.
Our loves are not given, but only lent,
At compound interest of cent per cent,
Though it is not always the case, I believe,
That the longer we’ve kept ’em, the more do we grieve;
For, when debts are payable, right or wrong,
A short-time loan is as bad as a long –
So why in – Heaven (before we are there)
Should we give our hearts to a dog to tear

R.K.

Smallaxe

Liz g says:
11 October, 2016 at 4:23 am
“Hey Smallaxe you have been AWOL all day yesterday”

Hi Liz,I had some “business” to discuss with some friends yesterday,will explain in more detail later,still have a few things to arrange today but I’ll be back asap.

Peace Always x

Smallaxe

Nana:
I noticed your post when I checked to make sure that my post to liz g had went in OK.Hope your well and happy,still waiting
to read your”volunteering” story,but there’s no rush Sweetheart,in your own time. 🙂

Peace and Love, Always x

Tinto Chiel

Afternoon, groovers.

I’ve been stuck in a room as part of the perpetual repainting of Tinto Towers with Pravdasound4 on (so I can keep up with what the buggers are up to) and this came on:

link to youtube.com

We’re aa ae oo, as the Scots saying goes.

carjamtic

Tinto Chiel

Nice One.

Up a ladder,also painting…high ceiling,lobby…

Good Tune(s) needed 😉

link to youtube.com

Liz g

Smallaxe @ 12.13
Hi hun.
Good to see you posted.
Please don’t think you owe me ,the internet or anyone else an explanation of what you are up to.
Just a wee Hi so we don’t worry.

Thepnr

Yep a good song Tinto, I believe our friend Ian Brotherhood played the same tune not so long ago. Great minds think alike.

A Change is Gonna Come that much is certain, what kind of change?

Well that will be down to us.

AnTeallach

Not sure if word of this Rally has already made its way to OT

Please share far and wide and let’s get an impressive turnout

Edinburgh March/Rally 22nd Oct 12 noon Waterloo Place
link to mobile.twitter.com

A short march to Holyrood then speakers including Wee Ginger Dug and Lesley Riddoch

Tinto Chiel

Mrs TC has let me out for a short intermission.

Carjamtic: if you keep listening to BS you’ll get it done in half the time. Don’t fancy your high ceilings, though.

Thepnr: that there Ian B has all the best tunes. Sorry if it was on here recently. I think my mind’s slowly going and I still can’t remember where my Red Army Annie Laurie came from.

I think (!) when I paint and can’t avoid the feeling we’ll be locked in a do-or-die struggle with the Establishment. Without us, they’re well and truly Carmichaeled so it’s going to get very dirty.

Perfidious Albion in spades: still, it makes my declining years very interesting.

Ian Brotherhood

@Andrew McLean –

🙂

Cheers aplenty.

Thepnr

@Tinto Chiel

I very much welcomed you playing again what is not only a good song but a song that in itself promotes change just as we are trying to do. It is great that the last time I listened to it I was by myself but this time my wife listened to it too as you posted much earlier that Ian B did.

There have been hundreds of songs played here now, in fact possibly thousands and many have been posted more than once. It’s because the’re good and deserving of exposure.

Here’s another that’s been played many times and I’m sure you’ve heard it. Doesn’t matter, someone now might be popping into Off Topic and for them this will be a first. For those that have saw it half a dozen times already, don’t moan just enjoy again 🙂

I love this song and the video.

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

@Thepnr –

Kin right, there’s plenty of stuff bears frequent repetition.

Black Keys, ‘Lonely Boy’ –

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Thepnr & Tinto Chiel,

The last contribution,quite rightly as you say,for people who have just popped in and may never have had the pleasure of seeing it and for others who would like to enjoy again.

In to my head popped Don Partridge,the one man band who played
“Rosie” and “Blue Eyes”in 1968.I wonder what happened to him?

Peace Always

Smallaxe

liz g:

Thanks liz,I know that you were just showing concern, as I said I was with some friends from what we informally name,”The
69rs”,I have said before that I have a lot of acquaintances,and few real friends(by choice and necessity).

You may remember that I lost a post recently,it took me ages to write and then it just flew away,never to be seen again.
That post was to Tinto Chiel,I was asking him to play a Donovan track”Universal Soldier” and he heroically tried numerous times to to oblige.

Anyway,I got so caught up in his efforts that I neglected to comment on the rest of what he had written,I am writing to him
again,this time offline,hoping that I can copy and paste it on here later,it sort of ties in with my foray across the border yesterday.”Broadsword to Danny Boy”stuff, 🙂 it may be of interest to some,if not just scroll on by,no harm done.I will pop in now and then to make sure that you are all misbehaving properly. 🙂

Peace Love and People Power!

cearc

Nana,

Thanks, very kind.

Paula Rose (or anyone) if you have Nana’s email address can you send her mine?

Nana

@cearc

Ronnie has my phone number. Archie and Jock have my email address.

Tinto Chiel

Released from painting for today by SWMBO.

Thepnr: that guy’s got some voice. I’m trying to educate my elder daughter in soul/blues and just sent her the Otis version today, so spooky.

Ian: great track. That guy dances the way I paint. I’m the Jackson Pollock of interior decoration.

Smallaxe, it’s all here:
link to en.wikipedia.org

Gloss work on skirting tomorrow and varnishing the sills.

It’s a hard life, pop-pickers.

Ian Brotherhood

@Tinto Chiel –

🙂

‘I’m the Jackson Pollock of interior decoration.’

That’s the way to do it – go hell-for-leather for a few hours, then get pished.

Smallaxe

There is something very strange going on!My post to liz at 9:21pm,mentioning a lost post,Well! I have just noticed my efforts to rewrite it has appeared further up this thread at
9oct.at 11:45pm,this is not the day or hour that this was written or posted.Either I’m losing the plot or or.. How should I know? Gremlins? Faeries?

Tinto Chiel,did you see it? It’s a post to you.Sumbudy,anybudy.HELP!

Tinto Chiel

“Go hell-for-leather for a few hours, then get pished.”

Correct. Doing it the other way around is just asking for trouble, Ian 😛

Actually, I have had no alcohol for over two weeks, truly worrying. I had a bit of a stomach upset two Sundays ago and have lost all taste for it. Am continuing with my strict regime of bending exercises and Vichy water, of course.

I’ve experienced problems on this thread myself recently, Smallaxe. I couldn’t post for almost three hours one afternoon, a bonus for lovers of sparkling humour and the English language.

Yes, I can see your eloquent post now and agree with your sentiments. We live in dangerous times but the last thing our media are interested is the truth. They created the xenophobia during the Brexit campaign and I am sure they will try to inflame those feelings in Scotland in an effort to reduce support for the EU here.

All we can do on O/T is play our favourite grooves and vent occasionally.

Hope you sleep well tonight, Smallaxe. Think the paint fumes have gone for me so I’m off to bed.

Still Positive.

Liz g @ 4.23

If you mean where I live, it is West Dunbartonshire, if you mean something else you’ll have to be more specific.
🙂

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Smallaxe.

It could be that your post went into manual moderation and didn’t appear until it was approved. I’m only guessing.

BTW: I did a wee series of 3 posts the other night, which had you in mind when I posted them. Due to your duties as a self-employed network engineer, you may have missed them.

The first is at:-

link to wingsoverscotland.com

and the last one begins, “Tidying up the loose ends…”

Nighty night, chaps and chapesses. Up early for work tomorrow.

Smallaxe

Tinto & Brian:
Thanks for the replies my friends,I really was beginning to think that I had lost it,or took a double dose of morphine.

Goodnight to you both.

Peace Always

Liz g

Still Positive @ 10.51
Hi I just ment hadn’t seen you post either and wanted to ask how you were keeping.

Nana

@Smallaxe

Got your message re volunteering saga, will get to it soon.

Good to see you posting and keeping the gang in check!

For everybody

link to youtube.com

Cadogan Enright

Folks,

I need a nice picture of the Wings do in Glasgow, preferably at the workshop to set up a community interest company where we were taking about street posters exposing the State and Corporate Media

I have go a screen grab of the Livestream feed, but it has glare on one side and puts a lot of folk in the shadows on the other

Does anyone have a decent pic ? If so send to cadogan@enright.ie

Cadogan Enright

It was in March of this year

louis.b.argyll

That’s ‘Rev C’…This site is truly great. Hard work and an honest outlook has allowed you to soar, seeing the larger picture without having to watch your back.

What think the Wingers? ‘Spin-off’ an international appeal. Maybe an essay competition etc..publish as part of WEE GLOBAL BOOK OF WAR..something related to Scotland’s democratic deficit.?

TIE IT IN WITH THE ‘END OF THE SHITTEST EMPIRE’. Brexit is global, as are the conversations, there is value to the truth that people know we are still here, trapped under a larger more unequal nation.

Let’s hear from people in former colonies. Let’s see ourselves actually & virtually.

Smallaxe

louis.b.argyll says:

“What think the Wingers? ‘Spin-off’ an international appeal. Maybe an essay competition etc..publish as part of WEE GLOBAL BOOK OF WAR..something related to Scotland’s democratic deficit.?”

Excellent idea,louis,How about people just write in their freestyle thoughts? Not necessarily an essay as such,just as it comes honestly from their hearts,in their own regional accent if they prefer.

“Let’s hear from people in former colonies. Let’s see ourselves actually & virtually’

Let’s hear also from Scots by choice,and their children,born here or brought here,poetry,prose and fluent or not so, as yet.Im sure that Wingers will have plenty of ideas.Im for it!

Just one other wee suggestion,could’nt we name it “The wee global BOOK of PEACE”

Peace Love and Literature 🙂

carjamtic

Smallaxe

See you are up to mischief,good 😉

Chill time.

link to youtube.com

Smallaxe

Nana:
Sorry for this late reply,your busy with your links and your home life Nana,writing stories about your life, while your busy living it,can make it hard to find the time.

Enjoyed “One Love” I think that whatever currency we use should carry the words that are on Jamaican money”Out of many One People”

“Won’t you help me sing my songs of Freedom” Bob Marley.

Peace and Love Always xx

Smallaxe

carjamtic::

I’m just crashing out today,had a very pleasurable and productive day and a half with some old friends.You could not have picked a better song if you had tried(or did you!!!)

“But I raise up my glass and drink deep of its flame
To those who have gone who were links in the chain
And I give my soul’s promise I give my heart’s pledge
To outlaws and dreamers and life at the edge”

John the dreamer was right,he was not the Only One.Imagine.

Peace Love and Outlaws. 🙂

Al Dossary

I see that Pigface Cameron has got his snout in the trough already ! He is to be appointed as chairman of the NCS trust (National Citizens Service). To quote the NCS trust itself,

“NCS Trust is a not-for profit social enterprise established to shape, support, champion and lead a thriving National Citizen Service.”

Of the 3 other directors, Michael Lynass, CEO was a senior policy advisor for No 10 until he joined NCS trust in 2013, and Will Gallacher, operations Director was special advisor to the Justice Secretary til 2015 when he joined.

The role of Chair was originally advertised in 2014 at a salary of £120k !!!

Wonder if Guido will highlight this one to the masses?

link to archive.is

link to ncsyes.co.uk

https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/ceo-of-new-national-citizen-service-body-will-earn–120-000.html

gordoz

Now – 79pm

Broadcasting Yes orientated rock on tune in Argyllradio now !!!

Listen in while on wings & support a YES station!

Gordoz

Thepnr

@carjamtic

Paula Rose will love you for that link, a favourite of hers.

Still Positive.

Liz g @ 12.36am

I am very well thanks. Don’t post much but read all.

Paula Rose

Which one where? *stops hoovering and washing up*

carjamtic

Thepnr

As a guest in PR’s convivial palm house,I have heard whispers, precautionary tales of ‘hammers and heels’ or even ‘pick a windae’.

Like yourself and Smallaxe,having survived the original ‘desert wae windae’s’ (in my case,due to mainly,fleetness of foot) if the hostess is happy,I am delighted…rubs chin….will I chance another tune ?….maybe later….advise to self,’don’t push yer luck…wee man’.

;-j

Liz g

Still Positive @ 9.20
Good to know my friend.
Was just thinking about you after you had said you had been ill too.
Take care. X

Smallaxe

Bob Dylan has been awarded the Nobel Prize for literature!

🙂 🙂 🙂

Dont think twice it’s Alright.

Peace Always

Smallaxe

carjamtic says:”don’t push yer luck…wee man’.”

Push it my friend,we will pulling from here. 🙂

Peace Always

Smallaxe

carjamtic:

There should be a “be” between will & pushing,sorry,my bumble!

Peace Always

Smallaxe

carjamtic:

Pushing should be “Pulling”. I’m distracted this afternoon.

Nicola,The Flower of Scotland,has sent T.May homeward to think
Again! 🙂

Peace Always

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