Let’s get this started
Posted on
June 17, 2014 by
Rev. Stuart Campbell
EDIT 18/6: A few more.
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A tall tale
Wee Books
Video
Probably a robbery
Transphobia
More satire please.
No Grouse Beater – let’s get serious.
Run
The ghosts of the cleared clans are chasing us
I can hear ther terrified screams
Not sure where I saw it, but there was a version of this poster with a big nuclear mushroom cloud, erupting right where the hills meet on the horizon, That seemed fairly apt.
First one there gets the food stamps!
They are coming for our NHS funding and Labour for our Education system.
Good video on why Scotland is a wealthy country and independence gives Scotland the powers to become better off.
link to businessforscotland.co.uk
Worth supporting Business for Scotland fundraiser as for many its the economy stupid.
Staying in the UK means getting an unexpected knock on your door at 3am in the morning by the DWP police state gestapo to make sure your papers are in order.
Home visit to check your benefits payments
GOV.UK
02 June 2014
You may get a visit from a Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) officer to check that your benefits payments are correct.
Your name is selected at random to be checked. You won’t always get a letter in advance telling you about the visit.
The officer will interview you in your home and will want to see 2 forms of identification.
They’ll also ask to see documents about money, savings and rent…
Run they’re stealing our future.
Paula Rose – but it’s maybe a Lord’s Grouse Beater that the is chasing the children.
It’s far worse than that..and you know it!
We need tae be oorsels, stand oor ain ground..get rid ae the parasite ca’ed Westminster! We’re no aw Tories soon here in the Lallans..x
Maria von Trapp – ya liar
good picture for a caption competition.
The ‘the’ shouldn’t be there.
(Didn’t there used to be a band called The The?)
Paula Rose said: No Grouse Beater – get serious.
How about, ‘Orphans of war dead run wild’
and Labour are coming for our soles
RED and YELLOW and PURPLE and BLUE…
I can sing a rainbow…:P
Change the kids for pensioners;
‘The Tories at Westminster want to take away your winter fuel allowance and bus passes.
With all apologies to oor Grouse Beater.
@ Findlay Farquaharson
that’s the idea.
Rory Stewart’s “Hands Across the Border” campaign didn’t quite live up to the hype.
Run, there’s 20% less UKIP in the hills!
Rev! Full html permissible for putting images in? Or simply a link? (floundering)
Nukes, first strike target, more lying politicians we cant do anything about,back door privatization of public services ,public money being handed to private companies who`s owners all went to the same school as the politicians,tax evasion ,inequality,child poverty,food banks,unemployment ,higher taxes less returns from westminster in the block grant ,MP`s pay rises ,banker bonuses ,low pay,a financial collapse that will make 2008 look like a blip,higher fuel costs ,oh and off course all our oil pinched.
And lots more horrible things but i dont want to scare the weans to much.
No matter.
“Run, kids! Run! Faslane’s gonna blow!”
I’m really sorry but this is a good o/t
There would have been no Brazilian football if it hadn’t been for a Charles Miller, whose father was a Scot! He arrived in Brazil in the 1890s with 2 leather footballs and a copy of the rules. According to ITV news, the English team should think on that because there might not have been a World Cup in Brazil if it hadn’t been for Scotland ! I’m speechless!
‘The hills are alive….
With the sound of UKIP’
Run, the Tories are making promises again!
I’ve a short story to tell, told to me from a woman who I trusted more than anyone in the world.
It was about a Tory. A man held in the highest esteem by the establishment.
A story from the best part of 100 years ago that is imprinted in my mind.
They will never change.
So we must!
I’ll blog this tomorrow. It’s short but to the point….
Simple.
Maybe it’s “RUN, here come some cybernats”
“In late 2114, Scotland’s impoverished, near feral, orphaned children couldn’t tell you who Alex Salmond was.”
“They all knew where the foodbank, privatised borstal style youth internment camps and graveyard were, however.”
The Clearances
‘Fracking sold to Scots as Fun Bouncy Castle’
Run towards the light!
Its just the wanes running back to reclaim the stolen property of their ancestors after the yes vote wins
Run, the village food bank shuts at 5.
“The Hunger Games: coming to the UK in 2015”
‘Harry Potter and the Lord of the Flies’
Hurry up or we’ll be back of the queue at the foodbank.
….and the buttons on your shirt.
Does anyone have a link to the original image? I’m struggling to imagine what the point of it could’ve been.
‘Doh – a fear, a Britnat fear’
‘Ray – Lord Geordies death from space
‘Mi – What U KOK’s all aboot
‘Fa – a long way to the jam
‘So – you think your getting free
‘La – montable labour leader
‘Te – the trillion plus in debt
That will bring us back to ‘doh’
O/T have you seen the BT poll from the Borders?
link to archive.today
‘Mon we’ll spend oor £ o’er the border!’
@ Marcia:
“‘The Tories at Westminster want to take away your winter fuel allowance and bus passes.”
So does Johann Lamont.
Bedroom TAX refugees suddenly spot empty Bothy for the night.
‘First immigrants to an independent Scotland find the country “almost uninhabited.”‘
Run! Bliar MacBloated says building the teamGB 21st century road and rail network in England with Scots oil means we’ll grow up fit and strong running everywhere.
Famous 5 – Escape from Saville cottage!
Just heard Baroness Trumpington (HOL) on Alex Salmond. I wonder if JKRowley will phone him to comfort him getting abuse above and beyond what she got?
The Panda’s escaped, The Panda’s escaped!
“What staying in the Uk means for Scotland” -It means these children will have a weird distorted idea of what a democracy is.
@Flooplepoop
See James Kelly take on this poll
link to scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk
Although it is in humour,nothing would surprise me from Labour or Tories or Lib Dems these days. If we vote no,in all seriousness,you look at this lot and just know that you won’t have shoes at some point in the future lol, you will however,be skint.
It means these children will be unlikely to fulfill their potential.
Woo hoo and there is still the best fish n chips in Ullapool, run faster gang
And the most food banks.
Maybe grandma has a spare room.
Gangs of the betrayed will chase pigheaded No voters into the sea.
Och no they lied damn……:(
Hit submit a tad too quickly….
“Next lesson is English wi Ms Lamont…. let’s get outta here!”
@SquareHaggis (11.05) –
Now That’s What I Call Satire.
ready ? sure ? wait for it…wait for it…
THE HILLS HAVE AYES !
I thank you !
Its a nice photo but it makes you think that all HM gov wants to do is keep stripping away Scotland’s wealth and stash their nukes in Argyll. If we vote no, just like their parents, these kids will grow to adulthood being told over over Scotland is a just a UK region of fat, unhealthy drunks and benefit scroungers. Its pretty scary really.
I remember basically having no shoes. Well I had a pair of sannies with holes in the bottom and burst elastic.
So I stole a pair, from a jumble sale. Had no money either but did leave the old pair behind on the table in case somebody was poorer than me. That’s one of these things, but true.
Oi I thought we’d had the humour page earlier – are we supposed to carry on with the laughs? Rev?
Run the “Nomentors” are coming to suck oot our wee poor Scottish souls !
The red cross parcels have arrived from Westminster, they are so good to our children vote No.
If you want a real laugh, go over to the WOS Twitter and check out the magnificently bonkers ravings of ‘Carl Le Fong’ – surely Cochers? If not, they’re made for each other.
Rab_the_doubter is the winner!
You get to eat tonight.
“What staying in the United Kingdom means for Scotland” … not smiling happy faces, that’s for sure!
‘Let us hurry friends! JKR has a new book out. It’s all about Devo-Nano, whoever he is!’
O/T, and posted here because it may reach a bigger audience;
May I reiterate my sadness that Auld Aquaintance is hanging up his pen;
link to auldacquaintance.wordpress.com
Thanks Rod, post when you can, and thanks for being there through all the tough times. You will be missed but your contribution will not be forgotten.
Best wishes.
JD
OT WGD 94 people have now donated a total of £4,516 !
After all, a small country being dominated by its larger neighbour looked so much fun in The Sound of Music..
“Hurry Gang, there’s a real live Tory MP in the next glen. I’ve never seen one o thay afore”.
Run! There’s been a leak at Faslane.
The loch is boiling!
In an independant Scotland the banks of Loch Lomond would no longer be bonnie a spokesman from Better Together warned.
Run like the clappers some clown gave Johann Lamont a
teachers job in oor school.
She wiz the High heidbanger in the labour party once up a
time.
@Glass Girl
Aye, Scotland couldn’t have saved the Banks of Loch Lomond.
“You may take our oil…..but you’ll never take our SWEE-TIES!”
@Glass Girl,
God aye.
And how much darker the Dark Island would be!
@Democracy Reborn
Good second!
Run! Alistair von Trapp Darling says blood and soil Yes voter nazi’s are coming to get us!
Couldn’t resist. “The hills are alive with the sound of project fear bullshit, its all over the BBC and STV too”
Has Derek Bateman written anything more powerful and passionate than this? If so, I haven’t seen it.
Here’s hoping Cochers attempts to reply.
Superb:
link to newsnetscotland.com
If you ignore the children and look instead at the background.
Your choice is to take care of your own beautiful country or leave it to the establishment to “manage”. Think I prefer the former.
OT. I posted on an earlier thread (Another Paranoid Cybernat) and got the message “your comment is awaiting moderation”.
Never having seen moderation before on this site, I waited about an hour, but still awaiting moderation.
Now it has disappeared altogether.
Rev. Is there now moderation?
Or did `I inadvertently trigger something?
“Scotland can be a child forever”
@ Thepnr – agreed.
I think Alistair Darling has already introduced Nazis into the indyref debate, so I thought it was fair game to post this guide on spotting propaganda. Might come in handy, in the run-up.
Analysis of Nazi Propaganda
A Behavioral Study
Karthik Narayanaswami
HIST E 1572: Holocaust in History, Literature, and Film
Harvard University
Analyzing the Results
While we have successfully analyzed the key tenets of Nazi propaganda to look for behavioral themes, we will still need to understand what they really mean in a behavioral context.
To do so, we will need to categorize our list of observed biases against the major categories of cognitive biases:
(table)
As we look at the above set of biases, a few things of interest are worth noting. For one, there are no memory biases that were leveraged by the Nazis in their propaganda. For another, the Nazis relied heavily on triggering social biases that affected decision making capabilities, to carry out their manifesto. Finally, one cannot help but notice that Herd Instinct and Bandwagon Effect were leveraged across the board by the Nazis in coercing the German people. All these elements can therefore be considered key to creating the ideal Nazi propaganda poster.
Oops.
link to blogs.law.harvard.edu
David McCann – I’ve had 2 posts go into moderation on another thread (OT) but they actually did post. I hadn’t made any change to my details, so I suspect it’s all part of the ongoing DOS attacks or the huge amount of incoming spam, gumming up the works. I’m sure it’s not personal or the Rev would have warned us first.
“That’s no ordinary mother! Run!!”
“Death Eaters! Run!”
Hello all.
While you are on just want to say that I am considering running a bus again from Dundee and Angus. I’d like to get the same bus again as we have some friends that a toilet is good. Including me!
Ok to make this viable, I need 30 names at £15/each, got Paula Rose, Briandoonthetoon, Pete the Camera, myself. So 26 needed, tall order. Come on you wingers from our our area give me a shout and I’ll get it done.
If the bus doesn’t take off I’ll be going by train so I’m sure we could meet up for that.
Chic what about you and the missus and ny friends? I would guess I need need to know by a week on Friday as that only leaves a week to book the bus.
Hello all.
While you are on just want to say that I am considering running a bus again from Dundee and Angus. I’d like to get the same bus again as we have some friends that a toilet is good. Including me!
Ok to make this viable, I need 30 names at £15/each, got Paula Rose, Briandoonthetoon, Pete the Camera, myself. So 26 needed, tall order. Come on you wingers from our our area give me a shout and I’ll get it done.
If the bus doesn’t take off I’ll be going by train so I’m sure we could meet up for that.
Chic what about you and the missus and ny friends? I would guess I need need to know by a week on Friday as that only leaves a week to book the bus.
Guaranteed jobs as Labour MPs in Westminster for every one of us!
If You Tolerate That Your Children Will Be Next
“The Famous Five wished Timmy was still with them that day in the glen, but all agreed he had tasted better than the food bank rations.”
@Ian Brotherhood,
Is this the image that you were looking for?
link to twitter.com
I like the picture’s caption, but surely the term nowadays is ‘Torylabs’ rather than just ‘Tories’. I mean, these days they’re the same. Can’t be bothered giving examples – too many, too easy.
PS. I forgot the other lot, the Liberals. I’m sure they’re very pivotal in something. They’ve been around a while, promising things.
The day after the No Campaign wins
David Cameron announces a new discovery of Oil & Gas fields off Scotland’s West Coast worth £10 trillion.
Speaking to reporters afterwards, the PM said,
” If only they’d known before the 18th.
How unlucky for the Scots. ”
“Tell you what”, he went on, ” we’ll increase the Barnet Formula by £50. That will ease their pain a little.”
He then left the room laughing his head off.
Read another Bella topic only to find its founder striding onto the pitch again waving yellow cards. Hmmmm
Aw shit! were in a Goebbels movie.
Is the picture people taking the Iron Maiden classic “Run To The Hills”, just a tad seriously ?
Or maybe it is “The Famous Five” ..”The hunt for a positive reason to stay in the Union” 2014 Edition ?
” If we get as much as last years sponsored run, we’ll be well on target for paying our uni fee’s come the A levels “
link to 4.bp.blogspot.com
day after a NO libdems will drop home rule bill for coalition mark 2 ,2015
link to 1.bp.blogspot.com
link to 3.bp.blogspot.com
link to 3.bp.blogspot.com
what just their shoes what about the milk, sorry they ve already done that health service ..no that as well, local schooling oh no that’s gone I could go on but sensible folk know what they re aiming for.
complete control of you
Ah smell shite.
Ah smell bluebells. They fresh smell of bluebells that are just blossoming. Most here smell bluebells. You’ll find the smell of shite where it’s guaranteed, in the newsagents tomorrow.
“Uneducated, homeless children left to entertain themselves and forage in the wilds for food, whilst their parents work 48hr weeks in employment camps for their £72 subsistence allowance.”
Or:
“A long, long wait until future generations are given a chance of democratically ruling their own affairs”
Or:
“No nuclear weapons, free education, democratic representation, a chance for all in an unstratified, socially mobile, and equal society that isn’t obsessed with neoconservative political consensus and borderline racism…
No, wait…
The opposite of that.
Sorry kids.”
The grouse beaters are coming to shoot the peasants
Grouse Beater says:
18 June, 2014 at 1:09 amRead another Bella topic only to find its founder striding onto the pitch again waving yellow cards. Hmmmm
mmm, i just picked up a clone troll on guardian cif
are sure it was the founder?
Model your child today to feed your family tomorrow!
Quick, hide the foreigner!
Big Gordys oot Big Gordys oot run run run.
Megaphone announcement:
You are on MOD property if you do not vacate the area of Gare Loch immediately you WILL be shot!
THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
There’s a man with white hair and scary black eyebrows chasing us.
“Rev. Is there now moderation?
Or did `I inadvertently trigger something?”
IF YOU TYPED YOUR NAME IN INCORRECTLY SYSTEM WOULD SEE YOU AS A NEW POSTER.
Sorry about the shouting Im a bit deaf.
o/t Just seen this in the Guardian.
link to theguardian.com
Currently £8 for a prescription and the prospect of £10 to see GP. Yet the NHS was going to be safe in David Cameron’s hands? Safe for whom?
Scotland is now closed for business.
Please leave as quickly as possible.
O/T Latest visiting dignitary at press conference:
‘Chinese premier Li Keqiang said he wanted to see a “united United Kingdom” when questioned on Scotland’s independence referendum.’
link to bbc.co.uk
Has anyone asked the Dalai Lama what he thinks yet?
Are there any plans for another Sensible Soccer after the referendum Stu?
So it starts
£10 charge to see a Doctor being noted in England.
£20 tax back. Health insurance is over £20 per week, more for families and the elderly. ConDems elected to protect NHS/Education are cutting funding and privatising both, against the public’s wishes. The debt is rising. Ghost trains to no where HS2 – no business case – decreasing Market. £70Billion+ Royal Mail Pension defraud £20Billion + £10Billion underfunding – £30Billion on the National Debt. CobDems elected to cut the deficit have increased thedebt.
‘Help to buy’ is costing tax payers £10Billion a year. A subsidy, mainly to London S/E, an increasing burden on all taxpayers. £10Billion a year goes to the UK Exchequer from Scotland. The cost of Housing Benefit, highest in London S/E, is £40Billion a year.
Vote YES to protect essential services and decrease the debt. Cut your cloth to suit your purse. No Trident, redundant weaponry or illegal wars. No surcharge from Westminster, no tax evasion through the City of London. A Tax on ‘loss leading’ cheap alcohol. = Save £10Billion a year for essential services.
While reassuring to see present day autocrats, tyrants and anti-democrats favour the retention of the Union, I think the BBC could surely hold a seance to ascertain the views of Herr Hitler. He might be dead, but given his history with the UK there’s a chance he might side with the separatists. It could be a mortal blow to their cause.
We are the brains behind the better together.
Chinese Premier says ‘ The Referendum result should be respected’. The Pope neutral. ‘The causes of Independent movements should be examined’. Obama – 10%+ of American electorate is of Scottish descent. The diasporia. Could swing the vote.
Scotland has friends in high places. The Chinese, ‘Scotland the land discovery and Invention’. Mr McAllister – Merkel’s right hand man. The French Auld Alliance. Celtic fringe. Japan – Glover, Tartan and all things Scottish and Burns. The Russian convoys – historical military links. Scottish Commanders in Russian Army. Australia, New Zealand diasporia. Middle/Far East Oil and trade links.
UK Treasury need the Oil revenues to pay off their debt to the Chinese, Saudi’s etc. Scotland never sees it but helicopters fall from the sky, with no Inquiry or compensation. Robert Goodwill uK Transport Minister has flown on a helicopter – ‘once’. Helicopter Co owned by Private Equity companies breaching uK Gov Health & Safety rules, with immunity.
John Major on R4 this morning encouraged by Naughtie to demonise Alex Salmond. The thrust of his argument was that Britain is defenceless without Trident, never mind what the Scots think.
“With HE2 only going as far as Leeds, it was another 5 gruelling days before Harry and friends reached Hogwarts.”
Resurrecting Thatcher. NO Thanks.
Implies NO Thanks to the Union. NO tanks.
BT need a BT PR company.
O/T I see john major wading into the fray. I honestly believe that if thatcher was still here BT No Thanks would have her involved with the other day-tripping Tories (and pseudo labourites). Given their track record, they would probably have her warn us that a Yes vote would harm the steel/coal industry.
Major poo-pooing the very notion that any unionist party leaders would dare ‘resile’ on devo-blethers. ‘It’s absurd’, he said.
Okay John, what-evs.
John Major? Scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
John Major said, ‘There was no where else to put Trident, so that would be the end of it’.
They don’t want it, but they plant it at Faslane. How about on the Thames? Will that keep Johnny safer? They are such hypocrites. They move everything South but not Trident. What about the contaminated rusting hulks at Rosyth? Is Major taking them.
Macwhirter of the Herald seems convinced ‘the SNP’ – surely he means democracy – is unlikely to win on September 18th, so he’s concentrating on seeing more powers gifted from the ‘united’ others.
John major being interviewed by Naughtie this morning on GMS at 8.15am, seems very concerned about the thought of Scottish Independence. He is more worried about the UK’s standing in the world, than Scotland’s.
And why is the SNP reply to John Major not being aired until after 8.30am. Why don’t we hear the reply right after John Major has finished.
@ Grouse Beater
MacWhirter informed us a No vote was in the bag on the day of George Osbourne’s currency intervention.
He’s no prognosticator.
Grouse Beater
Macwhirter was always a keen supporter of Devo Max.
I think someone should remind him that the Better Together coalition didn’t want it on the ballot paper.
So, if he wants really more powers for Scotland, then the only option left open to him is to vote YES on 18th September.
OK I give up.
The David Cameron PR Co. Ltd
showa us a day time picture of 5 smiling kids
holding hands and
running in V-formation
on sloping land going down to a road
with mountains and lochs in the background.
The clue is that this image has got something to do with Scotland remaining in the UK.
The UK Gov spent £750,000 of taxpayers money on this ?
It’s so DIY. So amateurish. So lacking in any wit.
.
Can anyone in or not in the PR industry please tell me
what on earth this image is meant to say?
A federal system reduces Scotland to a region of EngLand.
Well at least you aren’t accusing UKIP of shoe stealing.
The children do look remarkably happy at the thought of staying British.
I note that they are all white – perhaps some explanation is in order particularly with the, slightly unofficial, SNP programme of mass immigration and resettling the Highlands with 3rd world farmers.
Don’t feed the troll!
Craid said: I note that they are all white
Look closer. There’s the obligatory ‘ethnic.’
SNP programme of mass immigration and resettling the Highlands with 3rd world farmers
I think that statement constitutes racial abuse. Ms Rowling will be dismayed.
Don’t feed the troll!
Stuart can zap him in the badoolas.
@Neil Craig
Maybe you can explain this too me…
How come up to 1/4 of Skippers already plan to vote for independence in September and a majority trust Holyrood more than Westminster to look after Scotland’s interests?
Shouldn’t these people start a SIP party?
Scotland on pause looking for lost tock tic….tic….tic….
The Famous Five after defeating the nefarious No Scotland gang are on their way to a party where there will be lashing of ginger beer.
Here’s my submission!
link to tinypic.com
Pointless and silly. Let’s get real.
‘Scotland reveals some of it’s budding Olympians for Tokyo 2020’
Having liberated Darling’s eyebrows the kids happily raced to the hillside to set them free.
Hooray, all the adults have emigrated to Australia. We’ve got the place tae oorsels.
scottish_skier
There must be something wrong with your space-time continuum laddie, as the link to Leeds is only envisaged. I’m not sure what stage they are at in public consultation over a “preferred route”.
Anyway. I think it would take longer given the reported state of the TransPennine services. I reckon Liverpool and Newcastle will be connected to HS2, long before Scotland is considered.
Here’s a thought. Perhaps we could barter with the Chinese with our oil, whiskey, salmon, tartan, technology, education, etc……and get them to link us to HS2 with a maglev.
P.S. Hope I’ve not annoyed any ‘blood and grammar’ Naz..nast..nationalists.
Caz m 8.23
Have often noticed the naysayers get their say at peak of morning commute and when everyone is safely at work and out of earshot they tag on the counter from Yes.
Paranoid, me, maybe
Still baffled as to why the BBC thought pressing the Chinese president on Scottish independence was likely to favour the No side (I can’t think of any reason for asking the question if they were not looking to produce headlines for the No side). It is obvious that these pronouncements are simply annoying people. Who the hell is going to go “Oh the Chinese PM, whom I have never heard of before, made lukewarm noise about the Union, I better vote No”.
o/t will someone explain please why I can get to Wings via Google ok but when I use IE I get to the page but it is locked up and “Wings over Scotland is not responding” appears on the screen?
@Graeme Doig
Have noticed exactly that happen more often. So no, I don’t think your paranoid. Have just a wee bit to go yet.
link to tinypic.com
What staying in the UK means for Scotland.
Warning: This is Scotland’s worst nightmare.
The tempest prognosticator, also known as the leech barometer, is a 19th-century invention by George Merryweather in which leeches are used in a barometer.
link to en.wikipedia.org
I liked Alex’s response to the latest set up question to a global leader.
” I hope we retain the same global interest as an independent nation”
Neil Craig
Perhaps not only ‘mass immigration to resettle the Highlands’.
link to en.wikipedia.org
Graeme Doig says:
Caz m 8.23
Have often noticed the naysayers get their say at peak of morning commute and when everyone is safely at work and out of earshot they tag on the counter from Yes.
I’ve often thought the same. Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean etc.
I also feel more often the NaeSayer gets the statement and the Yes the counter. It should of course be random, but equal, first shouts.
Cammy B Brodie
Naw
Get the Chinese to build the HS Scotland network, linking all major cities in Scotland up to Inverness and Aberdeen (interlink too) and down to Newcastle and Carlisle.
HS2 will only be built as far as Birmingham. IMHO
“Run it’s the BBC !!! Jimmy Saville’s pimp”
They say MI5 vetted everyone at the BBC which means either they knew about Jimmy Saville or they turned a blind eye which makes them implicit in his actions.
Well we can really see the heavy weights being deployed now, Dave Cameron flourishing the Magna Carta – John Major warning of dire consequences for wee Scotland – and the ultimate, Alistair says the cavalry in the shape of Tony Blair is about to ride in and save the Union.
The dinosaurs were heavyweights too. Can’t stop shaking with fear or is it laughter?
I see a the schools debate in a very full Hamilton Town Hall resulted in 85% Yes, 10% No.
Somebody like to tell David Cameron.
What does it mean?
Fabulous countryside, lots of resources, and I happen to know the chap that owns it. Unfortunately it is inhabited by people with the mental age portrayed but dont worry the rubbish in the rest of this advert will persuade them to give up.
.
No,no! I’ll tell the Government.
Aha, I am the Government!
Is BBC Scotland reporting China’s Global Times calling Britain an ‘old declining empire’ which resorts to ‘eccentric acts’ to hide its embarrassment over declining power? Thought not. Mind you baroness Trumpington’s outburst aimed at the First Minister is an eccentric act of the highest order. Next stop on the decline – September 18.
second test
Unison official to publicly state support for referendum Yes vote
link to news.stv.tv
Escape from the Country.
Hunger Games, Tory style.
I see a the schools debate in a very full Hamilton Town Hall resulted in 85% Yes, 10% No.
Somebody like to tell David Cameron
(Previously posted with email address that didn’t correspond to name)
This is Proud Cybernat’s take on things:
link to scottcreighton.co.uk
Graeme Doig
“Have often noticed the naysayers get their say at peak of morning commute”.
Greame, I know exactly what they are doing. They have been doing it since the campaign started.
Another trick of their’s is to end a debate on what someone from the NO side would have said, eg.
“and I’m afraid we will have to leave it there, thanks very much”
You’re not paranoid Greame, you have just caught on to BBC Scotland propaganda.
O/T – WGD update
just sitting £24 of half way as I type.
link to indiegogo.com
I think there is a more subtle message here. If we vote yes, kids won’t be able to play British Bulldogs any more.
I knew there was a positive case for the union somewhere…
I do like ‘good news’ days. Cheers Elliot Bulmer.
link to theguardian.com
Surely British Bulldogs was banned due to Elfin Safety concerns!
Run! Let’s get more powers from Carmo!
they damn Elfs and there safety.
dont be scared kids its just Tony Blair “aye right mister did you no hear wit he did to yon Iraqis bairns were off”
The ABSD union are to advise their members to vote NO in the referendum.
Jack Russell winner of this years Royal Badminton sheep dog trials has given his support to the unions honorary president Prince Cor Gay. so said a BBC Scotland report spokesman
Schools debates – brilliant. Hopefully they’ll all go home and continue the discussions, telling the parents why etc.
Mind you if my experience is anything to go by the only things muttered at home might be along the lines of ‘nothing much’, ‘stuff’, or ‘whatever’ etc.
But it’s great to see everyone engaging in the debate, and finding answers themselves.
If enough people fall for the lies and deceit of Cameron & co and vote no we will just have handed them a big stick to beat us with, and they will.
Try getting your money back from a con artist once you’ve handed it over, or come back to repair their mistakes.
That’s HMGs objective at the moment, they want you to give them the ok for them to run over you and if you complain they’ll bring out the referendum results and give you a beating with it.
Aye better the GITHER. Don’t be fooled by the con artists.
Rip off Britain.
Elliot Bullmer is pretty good on the draft constitution in the Guardian roday but Professor Aleisalbas Tomkins is in there too, which is interesting. A Bulmer, Tomkins head to head could work but Prof TomkinsAlbeisdas needs anonymity to really let fly with his Scottish dictatorship of one man schtick, that oor Anas clearly picked up from him.
On the one hand Aleisbadas says Scottish constitution merely creates a new Westminster then he loses his temper and says Scotland will be SNP dictatorship like Hungary and stop gang bullying me, by challenging me. It never happens in Glasgow uni law dept lecture theatres:D
I vaguely remember British Bulldog…but I can’t actually recall the rules. Was it just running holding hands?
I think that might be a game that has long since passed from popular culture….bit like the Union
Run! There’s only one copy left of Gordon Brown’s new book, My Britain, Stick Yer Independence Up Yer Airse, left in the village Waterstones!
Is selection of the above image ironic or sardonic? We’ll all get to vote in September. No bombs and no bullets. Now that’s a refreshing change.
Half a million children have died in Iraq since UN sanctions were imposed – most enthusiastically by Britain and the US. Three UN officials have resigned in despair. Meanwhile, bombing of Iraq continues almost daily. John Pilger investigates for the Guardian.
I suppose this goes to show it is not only guns that are dangerous. Down with this sort of thing.
link to johnpilger.com
nah you hopped on one leg with your arms crossed and tried to knock each other to the ground ,the one left standing was the winner ,so if you were up against big Blair pie eating machine you were doomed to a sore backside lol
‘Last one up the chimney has to scrub Baroness Lamonts bunions!’
Young Unionist heroes race for the border as Salmond reveals himself to be the baddie from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Heed Tracker says: Run! There’s only one copy left of Gordon Brown’s new book, My Britain, Stick Yer Independence Up Yer Airse, left in the village Waterstones!
Perhaps they are using it as an aid to sleep.
Which one has the feechie touch? I only ask out of a public health concern.
Personally I think they have made a big mistake publishing this leaflet. Now we can make the referendum about a choice between this and the white paper, instead of a choice between the status quo and the unknown. lots of opportunities here. Some comparison graphics would be good. The rev has made an excellent start, get this image spread far and wide so that when it drops through the letter boxes people associate it with the Tories.
@HandandShrimp.
Remember the game, posted the rules in off topic.
Michael MacIntyre takes his new role as ‘Smile Youre in the UK’ Director to the Scottish Highlands
What will a no vote, in September say about Scots as a whole, to other nations across the world. This is why we must win the referendum.
“scottish_skier says:
@Neil Craig
Maybe you can explain this too me…
How come up to 1/4 of Skippers already plan to vote for independence in September”
Perhaps you could provide evidence for that unusual assertion. I grant that it would be effectively impossible for Yes to win if our 10.4% all vote for Britain.
Cameron Brodie I share your doubts about the SNP, short of massive use of force, being able to keep the immigrants they want in the Highlands in place. It is a lunatic plan but is claimed to be the only way they can think of to produce growth.
Hi Helena, Run! Crash Gordon’s got every teamGB ligger puffing his My Britain We Hate AlicSamin Don’t We, like this charming character/huckster
link to archive.today
“If Scotland votes no, there will be even more of that. As Brown himself wrote, verblessly, in the Guardian this week: “Westminster’s claim to undivided authority over the country? Dead and buried.” It’s a striking admission.”
Is there any angle they haven’t attacked Scotland running Scotland from?
Britain is an “old, declining empire” which resorts to “eccentric acts” to hide its embarrassment over its declining power, an official Chinese newspaper has claimed on the second day of a visit by the country’s premier, Li Keqiang, to London.
A question–hope someone more knowledgable than myself can perhaps answer.
Should YES succeed in September (looking more and more likely), would it be possible for the UK Govt to hold another referendum? I have heard some mummblings about that possibility. And what if they then put Devo-Max (Full Fiscal Autonomy) on the ballot paper? I can foresee all manner of shennanigans by Westminster should Scotland vote YES. But, at the end of the day, we will only have Westminster over a barrel with a YES victory. Referndums inform a Govt but do not bind them. What would be the legal position if Westmnster simply ignores the result and holds their own referendum?
Neil Craig
I think you missed my point, but that is your purpose, is it not?
Start your stopwatches for the standard “your all in the SNP” rants from todays guest troll
Which one has the feechie touch?
Thank you Cameron, for this gem of a reminder of childhood.
Neil Craig
I think this may interest you.
link to static.rcgroups.net
Brotyboy
An early introduction into the concept of social exclusion, or perhaps I’m reading too much into things.
“Get off my land you pesky Scottish vermin or I’ll release the hounds” an ermine, tweed and wellington clad Lord Britnat shouts with shotgun in hand.
Thepnr @ 8.50am
+1
@Cameron
No, I think you’re bang on the money. When I think back to those early days and the way we thought and acted towards certain others in my primary school class I am ashamed.
Then again, even as an adult I can be a right shit.
TOP golfer Colin Montgomerie has revealed he’s voting No to Scottish independence – because he doesn’t want to pay for it.
The former Ryder Cup captain said quitting the UK would “cost everyone a lot of money in Scotland” and that taxpayers like him would have to pick up the tab.
@ Proud Cybernat
That is the whole purpose of the Edinburgh Agreement. Removes dubiety.
Brotyboy
Same here, so I ‘annoy’ British Labour activists and challenge their MSPs.
@Colin Montgomerie
Have you not considered you would also benefit from the inevitable accumulation of social capital in iScotland?
Perhaps you could provide evidence for that unusual assertion.
Here you go Craig:
link to survation.com
Which of these bodies do you trust the most to make decisions in the best interests of Scotland?
Those planning to Vote UKIP for Westminster if Scotland remains in the UK:
36.0% Holyrood
34.6% Westminster
ex DK:
51% Holyrood
49% Westminster
Also:
link to survation.com
Those planning to Vote UKIP for Westminster if Scotland remains in the UK:
21% Yes to independence
70% No to independence
Which is:
23% Yes
77% No
Excluding DK
and:
MORI
link to ipsos-mori.com
UKIP supporters (Holyrood):
20% Yes
80% No
exDK
ICM
link to icmresearch.com
UKIP supporters (EU election):
25% Yes
75% No
Hope this will suffice. Of course just examples of what’s standard. Skippers seem to like Holyrood and a good proportion for Scottish independence.
Do you think UKIP have a problem with that? Are they like Labour and would potential penalise their own members for e pro-Scottish independence?
@Jim Thomosn
“That is the whole purpose of the Edinburgh Agreement. Removes dubiety.”
I understand that’s the intention of The Edinburgh Agreement, Jim, but I know also that Westminster can be as slippery as nailing jelly to a wall.
Westminster could simply say that it will abide by the result by holding another referendum with Devo-Max on the ballot paper. As I said–referendums are only “advisory” and not binding. I think the point I am trying to make is that Westminster can decide how it will ‘abide’ by the result of a YES victory which, as I have said, could have them holding their own referendum (or some other ruse to get around a YES victory).
Thepnr
“Chic what about you and the missus and ny friends? I would guess I need need to know by a week on Friday as that only leaves a week to book the bus.”
A bus to where/what, when? Another Wings night?
This weekend we have a big family birthday party. Next weekend we have Bannockburn and the Pathetic Quay protest.
I think we may be booked on a trip the week after that with our daughter and son in law, will need to check with da management, and the week after that our son and partner are visiting from Finland (16th to 30th) but they might be up for a pro indy thing.
nnual Bannockburn Rally
Saturday June 21
1.15pm Mayfield Centre (row of wee shops) Bannockburn village, facing Borestone Bar,
where Bruce is reputed to have camped. March from roundabout to Glasgow Road to the Rotunda, Bannockburn Heritage Centre for speakers.
Scoriach. 1314 Inn. Fiery Jack and others. Tickets £5, Children Free.
Bus 10.45 am from North Frederick St, George Square, Glasgow. £10 Children Free.
Separate bus pick up at Alexandria Station Car Park. 11.20 am
Leave 1314 Inn at 7-ish.
There is a ceilidh in the Tartan Arms in the village of Bannockburn Those wishing to attend will have to make their own transport arrangements as it would be too costly hiring the coach to come back.
Proud Cybernat
I think it boils down to what is considered in the ‘best interests of the state’. I think there is Parliamentary privilege dating back to the 17th century, though wouldn’t know if that would be applicable. This allows Parliament to decide what is best for us all, regardless.
Obviously ignoring a landslide for Yes, would not be in the best interests of the state (i.e. the Crown).
@Craig
That should have been ‘for being pro-‘
What I figured is that some UKIP in Scotland don’t like the idea of Scotland leaving one less controlling union (the EU) only to be stuck in a much more controlling one (UK). After all, UKIP are always on about ‘taking back control of our country’ (Scotland in this case).
I recall Coburn saying on the tellybox something like ‘Even if you support Scottish independence you should still vote for UKIP [for the EU]’ which backs up the fact that UKIP are not fully pro-UK.
Unless the party is deeply divided on the matter?
Anyway, looks like UKIP in Scotland are quite pro-Scottish independence. Almost the same level as Labour and certainly much more up for it than the Tories.
@Hood says: “I think this may interest you.”,
Don’t feed the Troll.
“A question–hope someone more knowledgable than myself can perhaps answer.
Should YES succeed in September (looking more and more likely), would it be possible for the UK Govt to hold another referendum? I have heard some mummblings about that possibility. And what if they then put Devo-Max (Full Fiscal Autonomy) on the ballot paper? I can foresee all manner of shennanigans by Westminster should Scotland vote YES. But, at the end of the day, we will only have Westminster over a barrel with a YES victory. Referndums inform a Govt but do not bind them. What would be the legal position if Westmnster simply ignores the result and holds their own referendum?”
In the case of Kosovo, the ICJ ruled that their subsequent UDI after Serbia rejected their referendum, was NOT illegal.
Having said that, Kosovo, although recognised by a majority of States, including the UK, still has insufficient support for the qualified majority required for UN membership.
But in all other regards, including membership of various European cooperative bodies, it is a de facto independent nation.
There are still many totalitarian regimes out there who still cling to the anti-democratic and antediluvian obsession with territory even in this, so called, post imperialist era.
That picture somehow conveys a very 1950s Enid Blyton take on the world, pre nuclear weapons on the Clyde.
One of the kids is the ringleader George (a girl – not Osborne) and they are obviously looking for Timmy the dog who has run on ahead and, thinking they are juicy bones, is unearthing some strong smelling facts Westminster wants to remain buried.
“Who needs HS2…we run from Edinburgh to London”
Rev, I’m only voting yes if you make another Sensible Soccer.
link to fazzledown.blogspot.co.uk
See above for definitive pisstake of the poster.
As it is a BT photo; perhaps we need to check the location in case they have just lifted it from a tourist brochure from Cumbria?
Now, that would be funny!
OK Skier, I accept you have made your case.
I suspect these are mainly fairly new “protest” voters since I can say few members feel this way. Like the SNP we attract protest voters, though we have yet to emulate the SNP’s ability to both get anti-government protesters and being the government.
Perhaps the SNP’s policy of stridently denouncing anybody who votes UKIP may be counterproductive if (A) you need some of them for the referendum & (B) you would like some of them back.
However it is good to see somebody debating on the facts rather than on the desirability of censorship (like Rab the “doubter” & Hoodie.
bookie from hell says:
18 June, 2014 at 11:57 am
TOP golfer Colin Montgomerie has revealed he’s voting No to Scottish independence – because he doesn’t want to pay for it.
On and off the course Monty has the knack of knowing just how and when to say or do the wrong thing.
The good news and a certain bet is
that when Colin speaks
the opposite is going to happen.
To sum up:
In Montyspeak, a No is a Yes.
Neil Craig
“Like the SNP we attract protest voters, though we have yet to emulate the SNP’s ability to both get anti-government protesters and being the government.”
Do you not see the inherent contradiction in your statement (above)?
Jack Kelly,former President of the STUC is saying Yes.
“My values are Labour Party values”.
link to youtube.com
‘Today’s children, tomorrow’s soldiers – from cradle to grave, we’ll have you in uniform!’
‘Children – time to keep your appointment with the Wickerman.’
‘This photo was taken with permission from a wealthy landowner.’
‘Kids pooling and sharing there way to a food bank.’
Remember – DEVOLUTION REFERENDUM 1979
As the committee stage was nearing its end, it scrutinised an amendment from Labour backbencher George Cunningham.
It required the Secretary of State to lay before Parliament an order repealing the Act unless
at least 40% of the eligible electorate voted “yes”.
The amendment was strongly opposed by the Government, but they lost the vote by 166 votes to 151.
In the referendum, on 1 March 1979, Scotland voted in favour of devolution by 52% to 48% – but only 32.9% of the electorate had joined the majority.
The Tories are traditionally the object of Scottish ‘disaffection’.
But when you look at the key decisions, as above, it is LABOUR who stabs Scotland in the back.
And so in 2014, who have the longest knives? – Miliband, Darling,Alexander,Carmichael,D.Alexander,G.Brown,Lord Reid of Cardowan,Murphy,Anas Sarwar; and from Holyrood,Lamont & Baillie.
So, while not discounting any of the BT membership,
it is Labour who will put the knives in deepest into Scotlands’ hopes for a prosperous and fair future under Independence.
But this time, we’re wearing the armour of experience gleaned from previous Labour treachery.
Scotland – so wealthy
Scots – why so poor?
Answer – Westminster Governments
Vote Yes.
Close but no cigar…. Yet.
link to aphroditeslodge.co.uk
The slope is not consistent with a lot of Highland lochs, I’m still looking but broadened my search to Ireland too. Shurely someone here goes hill walking?
Caroline
Thats Loch Doine and Loch Voil in the background there. Braes of Balquhidder territory. As I said on the other thread, MacGregor country, Rob Roy would have said “YEs”!
Spot on James.
link to goo.gl
rab_the_doubter :
‘Doh – a fear, a Britnat fear’
‘Ray – Lord Geordies death from space
‘Mi – What U KOK’s all aboot
‘Fa – a long way to the jam
‘So – you think your getting free
‘La – montable labour leader
‘Te – the trillion plus in debt
That will bring us back to ‘doh’
Rab
Great! (IMO) Would you consider a couple of changes to the flow?
‘Doh – a fear, a Britnat fear’
‘Ray – Lord Georgies death from space
‘Mi – What U KOK’s all aboot
‘Fa – a long way to the jam
‘So – you think your getting free
‘La – mentable Lamont
‘Te – the trillion plus in debt
That will bring us back to ‘doh’
All the best
Tom
Proud cybernat that is the point.
How come their shoes are spotless?
Maybe their shoes are spotless cos somebody hoovered the glen ready for a dam to build plutonium for the next bomb? as in the Coulee dam.
I don’t think there is much to be gained from examining the authentication of the image, but hair is normally a dead giveaway of sloppy re-touching.
Oh God, that’s what the shitty propaganda leafets will look like? Smiling children frolicking in the hills, safe and happy because the UK government is protecting them. So cheesy. Its like something out of the Soviet Union.