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Posted on November 06, 2024 by

So it looks like the USA has elected a mad orange rapist convicted of 34 felonies who could yet be in jail by the time of his inauguration. (He would remain President even if that happened, which would be really funny.) And we can’t even blame them for it, because the alternative they were offered was, remarkably and stupendously, worse.

Wings called it like we called Trumps’s first victory (and most other things). We tweeted this last year when thinking about the upcoming election. It’s a variant on something we wrote about on Wings eight and a half years ago. We’re posting it again now in the desperate hope that one day, maybe, far in the future, someone will actually listen.

But, y’know, we’re not holding our breath or anything.

Well done, lads.

Just all of the well done.

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Achnababan

So John Swinney has backed the wrong horse again. Arise Sir Numpty. Stay out of other people’s elections and sort oot yer ain pairty!!

Michael

Starmer’s lot sent people over to campaign for Harris ?

Achnababan

Starmer got into bother about that … so why did Swinney jump in with both feet a day or so later. Totally unnecessary and ill-judged. Bullied by the woke members of his inner circle?

James

Because he’s a Brit plant just like his predecessor?

Last edited 1 hour ago by James
Martyman

“backed the wrong horse”??

Are you saying he should have backed the other one? Really?

Patsy Millar

Yep, once again you’ve hit the nail squarely on the peg.

fiona

i knew he’d win, but it still felt shocking to wake up to that cheese slice face with hair grinning at his win. The sleazy voice, which quite frankly sounds tired, promising the world, but likely only to deliver unrest, crypto currency, and inflation. jeeezo….. we just wait with baited breath for whatever madness comes now.

mike cassidy

So the only question now is

Will Trump go quietlyin four years time

Or will he insist he is entitled to stand for a third term?

Geoff Anderson

FDR died during his 4th. term April 1945.

PhilM

Look at wikipedia for the 22nd amendment, which became part of the US constitution in 1951 after FDR had served four terms. Trump has only one term left.

panda paws

What can be amended once can be amended once again. It’s a high bar to reach (2/3 of Congress and Senate then sent to individual states) or a constitutional convention of the states – which has not occurred before – but in theory any amendment can be modified or annulled. Ironically the President has no role in amendments though can of course endorse or not.

Ted

There is zero evidence that Trump would attempt a third term unlike Obama who did that by proxy. He has an excellent VP who will carry the banner and allow him to retire at 82 (unlike the poor sick Biden who was forced to lurch on.

Karen

Yip, voted Tory myself for the first time, aged 62. Met my Tory MSP who engaged with me over women’s rights. I like her.

Ted

Stu, regarding your first sentence, after the Scottish experience, it’s probably not wise to hurl accusations of rape about.

Robert Matthews

Seems lawfare in USA is good but lawfare in Scotland bad.

Campbell Clansman

“Lawfare against non-Leftists is good.
Lawfare against Leftists is bad. …”

Says the Left in Scotland, in the US, everywhere

Jay

Campbell Clansman, Who you are quoting? Please let us know. Thanks.

Campbell Clansman

My Leftists friends in both countries. They say it with a chuckle.

James

Troll alert.

Ted

I did that Stu and that EJC stuff has the real whiff of “lawfare” about it, you know like some of the stuff you talked about in the Scottish situation.

Greg

Trump wasn’t accused of rape, he was found liable in court for rape.

rogueslr

Title IX drove voters to Trump. The stupid law demonstrated the deranged views of the Dems.

Skip_NC

No, it was the economy, I think. The Blue Wall is about to turn red. I made my peace with this about 10pm Eastern Time last night when it became clear that Harris was not doing as well as she needed to in North Carolina’s major conurbations. She got fewer votes there than Biden got in areas where she needed to really hammer Trump.

Basically the Democrats got blamed for Democrats and Republicans handing out money to everyone during COVID, which stoked inflation.

aLurker

I had to look that one up.

link to en.wikipedia.org

Jay

Roguesir, It appears most likely that the 1972 USA legislation has been favourably regarded by many males, and especially females, in USA. Quick research by online searches is likely to confirm that.

By contrast, there seems to be a major problem with recent ‘Regulations’ which have undermined the original protections for women.

Please clarify whether you object to the original US legislation and its purpose.

I still have not met anyone who denies the biological, genetic facts that define males and females allowing also for the extreme rarity of ‘intersex’ individuals.

The incompetence of the US Democratic party is broader than the ‘Transexual’ issue.

Robert Hughes

Spot-on , Stu . Personally , I wasn’t sure Trump would be * allowed * to win – and I suppose we still have to wait to see if his opponents will persist in their attempt to prevent him assuming the role of POTUS – via Lawfare . But the ( likely ) margin of his victory should – at least – remove any doubt or attempted denial of the clear majority of the U.S Electorate’s choice .

*Woke * just got it’s marching orders ; Hurrah !

If he does the right thing , ie gets rid of the Permanent State ghouls & Warmongers , and follows – through on his pre-election pledges to give good , decent people like RFK Jnr & Tulsi Gabbard free reign to do the right thing/s ( in this respect , he would be wise to bring in the calm rationality and insight of Col Doug MacGregor ) the U.S may once again embrace sanity .

It was again a truly abysmal choice presented to the U.S Electorate : they made the right choice nonetheless

Skip_NC

Robert, The Handmaid’s Tale is about to become real. I am no fan of Harris or the Democrats but it was the least worst choice.

Robert Hughes

1st : hope you were/are ok after the awful devastation of the Carolinas . Yes , well , let’s hope the * inevitable * backlash against the demented * Woke * idiocy doesn’t result in an embrace of eye-for-an-eye revenge by the * religious * Right . I think – paradoxically – that Handmaid’s Tale analogy had more validity when applied to the * Left’s * attempt to suppress any criticism of * Progressive * dogma , inc it’s lunatic * Transgenderism * manifestation . As I said earlier ……if he’s smart , Trump will give RFK Jnr & Tulsi Gabbard ( just 2 of the many former Dems so sickened by the degeneration of that Party , they aligned with Trump ) the opportunity to do the things they’ve said the would , ie in RFK Jnrs case ” Make America Healthy Again ” , by tackling the enormously detrimental Food Industry ; and in Gabbard’s case addressing the indoctrination & subsequent mutilation of children via * Gender * Ideological * affirmation * of childhood fantasies

Robert Hughes

as you probably knew ….I meant the ” devastation ” caused by the storms ; not any Political storm .

Skip_NC

Yes, I knew exactly what you meant. We got some heavy rain but nothing we couldn’t handle. The disaster in the west of the state was as bad as anything I have seen in this country.

You’re right that The Handmsid’s Tale can be applied to the Democrats. The difference is that they don’t have the competence to follow through.

Tulsi Gabbard is an opportunist. She wore the Democrat label because that’s how you get elected in Hawai’i. Now she has hitched her wagon to the Trump train. Smart in terms of self-promotion but, frankly, untrustworthy.

For those of us who lean slightly right of centre, it was a tough choice this time. Where a Libertarian was on the ballot I tended to vote for them but, in the 28 races on the ballot, I ended up voting for four parties.

Robert Hughes

I suppose – re Gabbard – it’s a case of whether or not one believes her defection to the Republicans was – as she claims – because of her disgust at what the Democratic Party has become – or mere political opportunism . I’m not in a position to judge either way ; but she’s certainly saying all the right things now ; and was the only candidate – from either side – who spoke about the desperate need to end the U.S’s promotion of war . Time will tell

Geoff Anderson

I wonder just how badly the SNP will do in 2026?

gregor

Filthy commufascist SNP (NWO) Regime is an affront to Scotland, democracy and world civilisation –

And it (et al) won’t have any integrity left (guaranteed)…

Charles Hodgson

Disgusting intro to your post.
Heard of Lawfare?
EJC had no corroboration, is batshit crazy and thinks rape is “sexy”.
Got her sexual fantasy played out in court with no evidence, supported by a corrupt judiciary. Believe all women? My arse. Only in DNC New York.
How you can see the Salmond conspiracy lies and smears, and the same for Julian Assange, but not this is astonishing. And hypocritical.
The DNC Neo-Con / Deep State War machine / Media & Big Pharma are a disgusting tyranny which must be destroyed, or there will be no more world to fight over.
Thank you American citizens for starting the fight-back.

Alf Baird

How you can see the Salmond conspiracy lies and smears, and the same for Julian Assange, but not this is astonishing. And hypocritical.”

Quite. It is an odd and highly selective and subjective opinion given what we know. Maybe this is because Trump is not considered as ‘articulate’, even by the more enlightened elements of the bourgeoisie, the latter still prone to socio-linguistic prejudice?

Jay

Hello Charles Hodgson, please let us know what you find disgusting in the intro to the post.

Which “EJC” do you have in mind?

Why do you think Trump will tackle any of the problem issues which you mention? I see the military-industrial complex, corrupt pharmaceutical industry and mainstream media plus much more, as being a massive threat to the world and that may well be similar to your worries. The Democrats are Neo-liberals rather than Neo-cons and all of them are bad.

Trump will promote all the worst of what you seem to condemn.

I hope you find this response and do more reading.

Ted

What Charles Hodgson is calling disgusting is Stu giving oxygen to what many call lawfare surrounding the EJC case Stu links to. Many called this stuff out when they saw it happen in Scotland.

Greg

Salmond was found not guilty.

Trump wasn’t.

You either respect the rule of law and verdicts of courts or you don’t.

“Lawfare” pish. The man is a convicted fraudster and a rapist.

Dan

Aye, crazy is as crazy does.
Who knew that political parties going way off piste embracing all manner of lunacy that’s contrary to the actual wants and needs of their electorates would end well. Empires fall…

In a Scottish context, there should be a lot going on at this time due to #TheThickening of the NuSNP caused by an influx of stupid grifting Bisto addicts.
If genuine supporters of returning Scotland to self-governance continue to choose to do nothing then Reform will make inroads.

Alf Baird

Helpful analysis Rev, which also in part explains why folks vote for Farage after giving up on woke parties who oppress the masses. Farage is England’s national liberator in waiting. His difficulty here is he thinks he also speaks for Scots on the question of national identity, but that only works for the more assimilated Scot who still falls for the Anglo-Brit cultural illusion.

History tells us that national identity, which is based on a peoples language and culture, is the only bulwark against colonialism. Which explains why ‘an independence movement depends on the solidarity of the oppressed ethnic group’ (Hechter), the Scots in oor case.

Scots also arguably need a Trump tae harness national solidarity an drain oor colonial swamp. Swinney’s woke colonial administrators winna dae it because thay’re aw bocht an selt an noo pairt o the colonial racket.

Swinney’s woke neo-colonialists hate Trump because he is a liberator o fowk, same as Alex Salmond wis, an Farage is for the English primarily.

Which suggests oor fae is colonialism, nae maitter whit kintra we’re fae, an oor anely sauviour is oor naitional identity.

Ted

Alf, “England’s national liberator” is doing pretty well in Scotland too. Some would say better than Alba.

Campbell Clansman

Reform got 167,000 votes in Scotland.
Alba got 11,000.

Alf Baird

Aye, a lot of Scots indy supporters also voted for Farage who offered a sensible manifesto on raising VAT threshold, stopping immigration, and binning the gender nonsense etc. Hence a world of difference from the woke parties. But Reform’s main ‘market’ here seems to be Tory/Labour voters.

Ted

Alf you may be right there. Reform UK has the possibility of uniting the Tory/Labour unionist vote. Same in Wales. Will be interesting to see the leap in Reform membership after the welsh Conference in the next week or so.

James

Ah, BritNat central.

Just what we need, more fcucking Tories.

Skip_NC

Alf, I agree with most of what you say. However, Trump did not drain the swamp last time and he won’t do it this time. He IS the swamp.

Alf Baird

No global warmongering as far as I recall, big tick there from many folks. Yes, Trump did not quite manage to clear out Washington’s bad apples last time, but this time will surely be different, he knows precisely who they are.

Similar applied with Alex Salmond ‘taking power’ in 2007 and 2011; he should have insisted on creating a new ‘Scottish Civil Service’ wae a new set o heid bummers appointed to run the sub-state, maybe including some Scots even! Instead colonial foxes were left inside the chicken coop…..

Jay

Skip NC,
As you say, Trump did not “drain the swamp”.

Unfortunately, Charles Hodgson (contribution earlier) might not be the only one who thinks that Trump will remedy problems.

Wonder whether they might re-assess the situation.

Jay

Hello Alf,
Some English people do recognise and support Scottish nationhood and national liberation. Do you really think Farage is one of them?

Most likely that some English people would view with disgust your suggestion that Farage has a role as national liberator and regard it as insulting as your colonisers suggesting that Sturgeon is the greatest Scots woman.

I see Farage as a neo-con/neo-liberal who would sell any national natural resources to corporate interests, privatise anything.

Maybe I will read some Fanon oneday. Best regards.

James

Well said.

Alf Baird

Yes, Farage would seem an unlikely liberator of Scots. However, if given the choice I suspect he would not be dissatisfied with an independent England.

And yes, his cultural-political ideology is essentially one of private ownership/profit driven, i.e. Anglo Saxon; but this is the dominant ideology that has been forced upon Scotland, the latter being mair a common good, public ownership, equality focused culture, as per Claim of Right. It is these two cultures that are incompatible in the UK ‘Union’ hoax, much as we saw in the different policy approaches taken in Holyrood during the Salmond era in particular.

Fanon indicated that whilst ‘the colonizer on the left may be sympathetic’ to the cause of an oppressed native group, he also maintained that: ‘his independence is a matter only for the colonized’. It is also well established that people coming from rest-UK have the highest propensity of all ethnic groups to vote against Scottish independence, i.e. almost twice as high as that of Scots. Hence Hechter’s statement that ‘an independence movement depends on the solidarity of the oppressed ethnic group’.

Mark Beggan

Another day in the world of politricks. The wokes will be preparing themselves for ritual suicide. I like the President of the United States of America his very name brings fear and loathing to the BBC. In fact I declare today a holiday.

Vivian O’Blivion

This is a good outcome. Trump has won the Electoral College and the popular vote (as things stand). A worse result would be Trump taking the Electoral College, but not the popular vote. In that scenario, the Democrats would be able to tell themselves that they are fundamentally on the correct path, they just need to … (fill in the blank). 

A good old trouncing in the Electoral College, the popular vote and the Senate should prompt some existential introspection. It won’t!

In these circumstances, financial donations actually increase, as the Dems left standing play the “resistance” grift. That, and they market Pussy Hats like they did the last time.

Mit der Dummheit kamfen Gotter selbst vergebens.

Jay

Vivian Oblivion, many insightful and well-informed contributions from you have NOT prepared me for your statement that “This is a good outcome”.

Is your assessment founded on the expectation that the US Democratic party, as it presently exists, will, as a consequence of defeat, be transformed into an organisation with policies beneficial for humanity and the more natural world?

The consequences of Trump victory will almost certainly be far more human misery and death, environmental destruction and extinctions than otherwise and, through years ahead, warfare (escalating to armed force) across all of Europe.

Trump only pretends to ‘drain the swamp’. What chance do you think there is of him tackling the abuses of power in the USA (eg CIA)? That would not be certain even if he Pardoned Julian Assange.

Scotland’s independence is unlikely to be delivered by Trump.

Robert Hughes

” Scotland’s independence is unlikely to be delivered by Trump. ” . Of course it won’t , Jay , or any other POTUS . Scotland’s independence will / can only be delivered by the people who live in Scotland . But it wouldn’t do any harm to have a POTUS who was sympathetic to the cause . Worth bearing in mind it was an American President who more or less compelled Britain to accede to the Independence ( from Brit rule ) of India ; likewise after the Suez fiasco to pretty much end it’s colonial Empire .

Young Lochinvar

Ooo err, the wokeratis bogey man is back.

Trendies and the woke will be sewing up their gauged ear lobes as being the mark of The Donald.

Stuart MacKay

“It’s the economy, stupid” – Jim Carville, strategist in Bill Clinton’s 1992 campaign.

Americans looked at each candidate and picked the one which is most likely to deliver a “better” future. All the gender woo-woo makes for great headlines but the reality is that if Harris lost because the average voter looked at lots more regulation and concluded their lives wouldn’t be improved by it. Simples.

Now, the real message is that everybody on this side of the Atlantic who backed progressive policies is totally f****d because they cannot remotely deliver on making peoples’ lives easier but neither can the current “right”. The party that comes along and makes that promise will sweep the board.

UPDATE: The House and the Senate look like they will fall into the hands of the Republicans, so the progressives in Europe just lost their ideological mentors. I expect electorates across Europe to swing right in an attempt to clean out all the nonsense.

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John Guest

I’m glad Trump got in. The alternative doesn’ bear thinking about.

Andrew

When STV2 was re-showing the Harry Potter films last week, I said to my wife that the shame of it was that the model for resisting Donald Trump when he’s elected was right there in the films, depicted as “Dumbledore’s Army”… the shame of it was that because JK Rowling had been cancelled, many young voters would ignore some of the lessons from history about resistance that the author had fictionalised.

“You think Trump’s going to win?” She asked.

It’s not just Cancel Culture that gifts The White House to convicted felons but the refusal of so-called Liberal-Left parties to realise that until they stop using the economic parameters pf the wealthy, they have no way of understanding that larger and larger proportions of the electorate are being left behind in ‘growing’ economies that use median and mean averages as their metrics.

Keir Starmer will be a one-term PM.

TURABDIN

The marmalade Doncat among the rainbow pigeons.
Happy hunting!
«Plus ça change» but not necessarily «la même chose»

Frank Gillougley

So, the Goatfuck beat the Batshit crazy. Given the choice, the American electors voted for common sense. The rabid msm also have a lot to answer for.

Skip_NC

There’s one curiosity that got me thinking. Before the polls closed, Trump shouted on social media that there was huge fraud in Philadelphia and that law enforcement were on the way. Maybe he’s right and maybe the fraud extended to Wisconsin, Michigan, North Carolina and Georgia that’s the wrong flag emoji, Apple). That wasn’t a very smart comment and, perhaps, indicates that he didn’t expect to win.

Or maybe the Democrats really messed up, starting with the mass crapping of their pants a few months ago.

Athanasius

Bit hard on The Donald. I can yet see him on Mount Rushmore. There’s a space between Teddy Roosevelt and Abe Lincoln. Or maybe to the right of George Washington.

James

LOL good one.

TURABDIN

In anglosaxon cultures it can seem that politics is all about sex, on the other hand London is the considered money laundering go to and the WEF model is effectively politico-economic corporatism ie «stakeholder» fascism and not a whimper from liberal quarters.
Very queer!


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