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A story in the Scotsman tonight reports how the Scottish Parliament’s independent research body SPICE has found – contrary to long-running claims from Labour – that the Scottish Government has OVER-funded the eight-year Council Tax freeze.


And that’s all very well, but not exactly stop-the-presses stuff – nobody reading this site is going to be terribly surprised at Scottish Labour being caught out in a lie. But the party’s house newspaper the Daily Record went for a subtly different angle on the story that did manage to provoke us to raise an eyebrow.


That’s quite an… interesting choice of word to emphasise in the headline. A casual reader quickly skimming across the page might well arrive at a conclusion entirely at odds with the actual facts, especially with the strapline and the link at the bottom highlighting £80m of cuts for a single council.

The headline is of course technically perfectly accurate, and the article itself reports the truth. But we’ve known for a long time that a large proportion of readers never get past the headline, and the Record’s inexplicable capitalisation will give a sizeable percentage of those a very wrong impression.

We’re sure it’s just an unfortunate accident.

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  1. Iain More says:

    Accident my spotty behind.

  2. Iain More says:

    So if they have been overfunding it, where oh where has that over uhmm funding being going? I wont even ask how the Brit Nat Brainwashing Corp or Britannia TV Aberdeen will report this as it doesn’t quite fit into that SNP wicked etc headline.

  3. Lesley-Anne says:

    There are accidents … then there “accidents” … then there are ACCIDENTS! Now I wonder which sort of *ahem* accident this is! 😉

  4. Andrew McLean says:

    Someone made a pigs ear out of this?
    By the way I don’t care if my VW car has to be recalled THE PM SHAGED A DEAD PIG, sorry if this is obscure, but I can’t understand the news tonight, so are we to ignore this, crack addict of pig abuser?

  5. Camz says:

    With headlines such as “The Sow”, we’re not exactly convinced they have (or have ever had) any credibility.

  6. jimnarlene says:

    Accident? I don’t think so. Someone, at the DR, may have read the article linked to above; regarding headlines and skimming through stories.

  7. Croompenstein says:

    Kezia will say in that squawky voice “See, we told you that the SNP were helping the middle class with this policy and now the proof they are overfunding the middle class..SNP Baaad”

  8. Ken500 says:

    The SNP over delivered on policies to protect hard press families and communities yet again.

    Thanks Nicky and Co.

    BooHoo DR dogs and pigs. Go and find another trough to hide under. Foote in the mouth again. Foote and mouth disease. Sinking ever lower. How low can they go? To oblivion Hell. Never to rise from the ashes.

  9. HandandShrimp says:

    A cynic might think they have deliberately created a headline and summary that takes about three reads to get your head around and still left with the word UNDERFUNDED burned in your retina.

    I’m not a cynic though…well maybe a little bit.

  10. Sinky says:

    Another Labour myth bites the dust.

  11. mealer says:


  12. Nana Smith says:


    Kez will be up all night practising saying exactly that for the bbc tomorrow.

    Missed you on Saturday!

  13. sinky says:

    Quelle surprise, BBC TV news this evening failed to mention this sensational revelation as they just rehash 6.30 pm news.
    Lazy journalism or underfunding?

  14. yesindyref2 says:

    And the headline in the Herald is: “Report: SNP’s council tax freeze has cost Scottish Government £2.5bn”

  15. Archie [not Erchie] says:

    @ Ian More – Accident? I am raising you 10 spotty behinds and a hairy chest. Its just you an me bud.

    @ Nana Smith – Off to bake scones

    @ Mealer – Gone home

    @ Sinky – Lost in dust

  16. Wills says:

    this is actually quite a significant news story,,,,,, ,, but according to the BBC the Bay City Rollers reforming is of much more national interest…..
    Well I suppose it is in the households that still buy the record.

  17. Stoker says:

    The Dirty Redcoat exposed using subliminal propaganda! Whits new?

    In other news:
    Very strong rumours are circulating within the London establishment that David Mundell has been ham-fisted periodically.

    Sh!t, ah think Tinto Chiel has stole ma Crombie! (((TAXI)))

  18. Chic McGregor says:

    You are absolutely correct Stuart, The Record is an unfortunate accident.

  19. galamcennalath says:

    It is astonishing the extent to which the DR, directly or indirectly, do the bidding of Labour (North Britain). Makes me wonder what is really in it for them? Eventual demise, is the reality.

  20. yesindyref2 says:

    Relevant to this is which has the headline “Council Tax Freeze “over-funded”” . It answers allegations by the opposition that the council tax freeze was underfunded.

    What gets me is the £2.5 billion figure given in isolation. There needs to be an estimate of what that £2.5 billion means to the Scottish economy, in terms of VAT, tax, NI, corporation tax, fuel duty, etc.

    All of which if Scotland had FFA or Indy would come back to the Scottish Government in Revenue as a partial compensation, but currently flows down to Westminster.

  21. Dr Jim says:

    Is it not time to start sending the boys round to some of these offenders

    That was just Hyperbole and an opinion BTW

    I’ve got Squillions of them

  22. Ken500 says:

    Unionist Councils which spend on policing protecting evil thugs marching the streets of Glasgow marauding through destroying the local economy GCC

    Unionist Councils which operate Tram Projects £Millions over budget, over budget, over time, over budget. Dig up the public fairway. Edinburgh City Council

    Unionist Councils who refuse a Gift of £80Million+ to predestianise the City centre. Waste £Millions on unpopular Projects which will waste £Millions of taxpayers money against the majority wishes and th public interest. ACC reported repeatedly to Standards Committees for acting against the public interest and are not fit for public office. Citizens are protesting in the
    streets. ACC.

    On and on and on they go. ‘Look the coffers are empty’. ‘The poor little children’ ‘That will be a vote winner’. Put all the rest behind. No one will notice.

  23. Croompenstein says:

    @Nana – Kezia’s voice could peel tatties it reminds me of fingernails scraping down a blackboard.

    Was gutted to learn that I’d missed you on Saturday hopefully meet sometime soon 🙂

  24. Robert Peffers says:

    @Sinky says: 22 September, 2015 at 10:18 pm:

    “Another Labour myth bites the dust.”

    Did you mean Myth Dugdale, Sinky?, (excuse my lithp)

  25. Ken500 says:

    Borders Davy pissed and visiting Strip Joints on the Cocaine is only a rumour. No evidence. Just old traditions. Those Downing Street welcoming Parties. Watch the joint or the head.

  26. Tinto Chiel says:

    Dr Jim, I’ve got a Crombie, a baseball bat and I’m feeling pretty pig-sick.

    At your service. Will bring own hyperbole.

  27. heedtracker says:

    As UKOK sneaky shit stuff goes, it’s ok but its not coming close to the way they’re all trying to bury the Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron fcuks dead pig’s heads thing.

  28. No labour front bench MSPs could be found to go on Scotland2015.

    Nae Baillie nae Gray nae Dugdale nin o thum.

  29. Robert Peffers says:

    @yesindyref2 says: 22 September, 2015 at 10:37 pm:

    “And the headline in the Herald is: “Report: SNP’s council tax freeze has cost Scottish Government £2.5bn”

    As my old Grand Dad was wont to say, “It’s nae loss whit a freend gets”.

  30. Democracy Reborn says:

    “Poll finding doubts Dugdale as COMPETENT leader”

    You see, we can all do it…

  31. yesindyref2 says:

    @Robert Peffers
    Indeed. I wonder whatever happened to these fine words?

    “The Herald’s view: we back staying within UK, but only if there’s more far-reaching further devolution”

    Not worth the paper it was printed on, I think.

  32. Robert Peffers says:

    Q: What do you get if you cross a pig with a Tory Prime Minister?

    A: Nothing. There are some things a pig just won’t do.

  33. K1 says:

    There are no lengths that the BBC will not go to, to protect it’s own failings…Chilcot report is mentioned in this piece too. It’s all the people they have contacted who are found to be ‘at fault’ and are delaying their responses to that ‘criticism’ that are holding up both reports. They really are a right shower of conniving bastards.

    From Exaro today:

    “BBC bosses are trying to delay publication of an inquiry into its failures over paedophile Jimmy Savile until after ministers agree the broadcaster’s charter renewal”

  34. Capella says:

    Would it not be possible for the Scot Gov to have a proper news section on their website? I looked to see if they had anything on this topic but the NEWS section looks like an in-house noticeboard for council staff. Boring. Why not save some of that overfunding and pay a couple of internet savvy people to redesign and maintain it?

  35. robertknight says:

    The Record’s front page need only appear in three forms…

    1) Anything relating to ‘Rangers’

    2) Anything relating to ‘SNP Bad’

    3) Any combination of 1 & 2

    Utter rag; useful for scooping up a dog turd but not much else.

  36. Pauline says:

    Stu, Please never stop doing what you’re doing. You are the only man standing between some of us and a straightjacket.

  37. Quakeawake says:

    Record and Scotsman both just more cogs in the propaganda machine.

    I was in the pub and BBC news was on TV without sound. It had a big grandstand article where they did their best to make Gideon Osborne look statesmanlike in China. Meanwhile Cameron is getting shafted by his pals back at the ranch for shafting dead pigs, running drug parties and lying about stuff. Any connection?

    Of course, to the British Bumlicking Corp, the anniversary of 70 years of advertising on TV was more important than the integrity of our PM, but that’s the new normal.

    Is this is their idea of subtlety?

    It’s all like some 1970’s film from behind the Iron Curtain playing out – especially when you sit back and watch it all without sound. We’re pawns in their obscene game and we’ve got to keep on waking people up to that.

    The BBC north and south of the border is just a state propaganda machine, nothing more. Keep on and on exposing it.

  38. Legerwood says:

    Reporting Scotland did manage to mention this overfunding story in their 6.30 pm news bulletin but NOT as a news item. It was mentioned in their wee trailer for Scotland 2015. Blink and you had missed it.

  39. Stoker says:

    @ K1 (11.33pm).
    Thanks for that, very interesting indeed!

    robertknight wrote, re; The Dirty Redcoat:
    “Utter rag; useful for scooping up dog turd but not much else.”

    And it often proves that point by containing a lot of Dug turd.

  40. Capella says:

    OT re China trip
    Davey’s been to east Asia too you know. Our Carpet Bagger PM, says the Guardian. Salesman-in-Chief. No money for those hundreds of embassies abroad which an independent Scotland couldn’t afford.
    It’s the “Prosperity Agenda” (but only for the City of London.)

  41. Rob James says:

    There are rumours that Cameron is trying to rush through a bill legalising necrophilia and bestiality. Personally, I think he’s flogging a dead horse.

  42. Dr Jim says:


    If you are ready Tinto we are fully armed with Mp3s and C4
    all canned material is coming in from Norway (the smelly variety)

    Should UDI ( Unilateral Declaration of Insultings ) be announced our Units will spring into action within 45 minutes to seek and destroy all sensory organs of the opposition thus wiping out their ability to focus on their propaganda, rendering them effectively “Liberal Democrats”

    I know it’s ruthless, but this is WAR and I am a cold Bastirt

  43. K1 says:


    “Personally, I think he’s fucking a dead horse”.

    There, fixed that for you.

    You’re welcome 🙂

  44. K1 says:

    Laugh out loud Dr Jim @12.12am, very funny 🙂

  45. Lesley-Anne says:

    Rob James says:
    23 September, 2015 at 12:09 am

    There are rumours that Cameron is trying to rush through a bill legalising necrophilia and bestiality. Personally, I think he’s flogging a dead horse.

    Surely you mean a dead PIG don’t you Rob? 😉

    I have no idea what connection oor wee PM has with horses other than to ride live ones to hunt down foxes!

  46. Ronnie says:

    I think we’ve all been a bit hard – on David Cameron.

    I believe that he’s actually a sperm donor.

    Keeps it in a piggy-bank, apparently.

  47. The bizarre phraseology used, in the Redcoat should never be thought of as if IT’S simply, a – MANIFESTation of bias or FUNCTIONal illiteracy.

    It is has all the hallmarks of: carefully crafted PsyOps. The style of writing IS designed – smartly TO leave a reader CONFUSEd, AND almost, HYPNOTISEd.

    [insert lurid graphic showing a blue pig in knickers here, then write actual story BTL]

    This technique is well known to hypnotherapists, Neuro-Linguistic Programming enthusiasts, and sociopaths everywhere. It works on the principle that the more someone’s conscious thinking is confused, the more vulnerable they become to subconscious suggestions.

    The tragic thing is that some people enjoy the vague, slightly stoned state of mind produced by reading the DR. It’s a mental regression, to the passive state of a breastfeeding baby, and it releases a lot of endorphins [natural opiates] into the brain. Let’s be clear on what we’re up against here: the Redcoat is heroin in tabloid form.

    Once somebody’s hooked, they don’t care that they’re been pumped full of negative messages about themselves – too wee, too poor, too stupid, eat yer cereal – as long as they get the buzz of surrendering control, and letting the soothing word-daft wash over them.

    Sad, but true.

  48. Lesley-Anne says:

    Ronnie says:
    23 September, 2015 at 12:51 am

    I think we’ve all been a bit hard – on David Cameron.

    I believe that he’s actually a sperm donor.

    Keeps it in a piggy-bank, apparently.

    Well that does indeed make sense Ronnie. After all was it not only last week the UK sperm bank was bemoaning the fact that they only had 11 donors?

    Perhaps this is Camerbacon’s way of showing his support for the bank. 😀

  49. osakisushi says:

    I think I’ve sussed in for IR2

    All we need is for Scottish people to feel extremely Scottish and this needs only a few criteria met.
    IR2 should be timed in a year which follows
    1. A Scot to win Wombledon – easy
    2. That lassie from Oban to win F1 for Williams (Sue Wolfe)
    3. And Scotland to win the World Cup. (How much is independence worth?)
    4. Finally, David Cameron to present the BBC R2 Program, The Organist Entertains.

    Perhaps criteria 4 is a step too far but it would improve the dreadful program.
    But critically, any vote MUST be held on July 4th as the USA has already done the PR work for such a date.

  50. osakisushi says:

    Oh, for an edit button. I nearly wrote something about Kelaz Do’Adelle

  51. osakisushi says:

    Okay, just done the nerd thing. IR2 next decent date is in Thursday July 4th, 2019 which is a bit of a bugger.
    I’ve leukaemia and my next chemo ends in 2018. Hope it works again.

    Still wish there was an edit as I nearly wrote Kezla Pighead for some reason…

  52. Dr Jim says:

    In the voice of Duncan McCrae

    I’m thinking that the questioning of the First Minister this week should be a fine affair with that Corbyn Manny hiring a Vegetarian for Minister for Agriculture and Fisheries then Prime Minister Cameron making love with a dead Sow, followed up by the Labour Branch Office in Scotland’s decision to agree that Independence sounds Fine and Dandy and not to worry about it at all

    Aye, and what with the council taxes being what thon SNP folk said was true all the time and the Manny from Renfrewshire was having himself and his pals wee holidays in Germany, Germany is it, and with the poor peoples money

    Ach thon wee First Minister lassie will not be able to stop laughing, along with thon Mr Swinney the Finance Manny

    It’s a great time to be Scottish, is it not

  53. David - Patriotic and Loyal says:

    oi oi you lot have the cheek to complain about underfunding? Your blog sure is very overfunded by the SNP and its cybernat goons revvy!!! Wouldna be suprised if the Seperateist anti-British regime in Holyrood is funding all yer expanses!

    Communism and seperateism will never triump on these great Isles!!! Most people no the SNP/IRA/SWP/CyberNat is a pack of lies all of them.

    Your blogs full of lies about the Unionist demo on Glasgow after the referandum victory. it was not racist, not violent, not secterain just peaceful young uns showing they were proud of Scotlands finest football team, Rangers and proud of the Queen, the Country and God!!!

    You probably dont have the courage to publish this, but there ya go. Says all about ya, that!!!

  54. yesindyref2 says:

    “For me, it’s time for a new challenge, even if right now I have not a clue what that might be.”

  55. Macart says:

    Oh good grief!

    They simply can’t help themselves. In a week where Mr Pike’s book pretty much squarely lays a fair portion of the blame for the creation of the vow at the feet of ‘Scotland’s CHUMPION’, they’re still playing childish bloody word games.

    You’d think that they’d want to keep a low profile for a while.

    Apparently not.

  56. john king says:

    Let me add my hope Osakisushi that you chemo works, get well soon.

  57. Ken500 says:

    UK gov banking and illegal tax evading fraud.

    £10Billion is being taken from taxes and revenues raised in Scottish economy to subsidise £Billions of tax evaded Westminster colluded tax fraud based in the City of London. Taxes have been cut in the rest which does not pay it’s way or far share of taxes.

    £Billions is being syphoned off illegal to pay for White elephant nuclear Plant (near Bristol) and HS2 which will be years over budget and over time, wasting £Billion in revenues. Alternative policies renationalsing the railways and renewables would cut expensive subsidies to the Chinese (ie putting up the National debt) and deliver better essential services.

    In monies more wisely spent in NHS/Education and essential public service. It is an absolute scandal. Osbourne is pimping himself to the (no universal suffrage) Chinese with poor economic polices. So Osbourne and his associates, friends and relative can cream off £million/Billions of public monies in consultancy and banking fees as per Royal Mail Pension grab and RBS manipulated sell off. UK/Chinese illegal Graft and corruption. It’s a scandal.

    Tories have ruined the Oil sector taxed at 55%. If the tax was reduced people would not be losing their jobs. Helicopters falling from the sky’s. There are no UK gov Inquiry about the lack of compliance with UK Health & Safety Law/rules which were broken. UK Gov refused permission despite the UK Gov Transport Committee investigation recommending one. The Helicopter Co responsible was sold 2 years later for £250Million by the private owners. 14 People died in one incident.

  58. john king says:

    Apparently “Scotland are bracing themselves” for their first world cup game against Japan it would seem the BBC have already decided that Scotland is going to get its arse kicked,
    I haven’t heard them say Japan “are bracing themselves”


  59. Nana Smith says:

    Good morning John, great meeting you & Irene on Saturday.

  60. mealer says:

    Morning all.Bullingdon Boy has sex with dead pig and watches on as his policies drive unwell folk to suicide.What kind of a monster is that man? I don’t think Fluffy Mundell would indulge in lovemaking with a dead pig but he seems quite content to drive desperate folk beyond desperation.Labour abstained.Are they much better?

  61. Ken500 says:

    The MSM and BCC liars overfunded by Scottish taxpayers are backing Japan the ‘stars of the tournament’ after England, England, England and have publicly state the fact. Rugby leaves most folk cold. This will not do much to thaw relations. Don’t mention the War, Land of Hope and Gory. EBBC don’t do best sport practices.

    The embarrassing, orchestrated BritNat Tennis fest at the Emirates, putting off genuine fans. The rival exhibitionists should have been chucked out, so folk could concentrate on the tennis/stars. They would have been at any other stadium. It’s not the X factor for star quality. Judy Murray expects Scottish taxpayers to cough up £Millions for her Tennis centre. Reign in the embarrassing jamboree or it might go to a swimming, animal, golf or equestrian centre instead for better value. Even for lifelong tennis fans there is a limit to their patience. Whatever happened to
    gamespersonship? Scotland airbrushed and photoshopped out of the equation.

    They can stick their ‘Tournament’ up their jacksie. Won’t be watching any of the non event. All together now, sing along folks, ‘Land of Hope and Gory, country of the colonial afternoon tea, non free’.

    Scotland pro rata won the Olympics and the usurped Commonwealth Games. There is a limit to sports fans patience, manipulation and value for money.

  62. Grouse Beater says:

    You begin to understand the basterdisation of truth that President Hugo Chevez had to endure from his predominately right-wing press, lies and fabrications on a daily deluge.

    Eventually he took to regular ‘Meet the President’ tours around his country to answer questions from the local people, together with his aides.

    His attempts to combat the lying press and viscous media were, of course, derided by the west, and cheeky chappies such as Michael Topiary ‘Tache of the Guardian.

  63. Charles Edward says:

    It appears that the Rocord has contracted the same malware virus distorting reality in the Telegraph.
    Hyperbollox 2.o

  64. Tinto Chiel says:

    Dr Jim @ 12.12.

    Sorry I missed your post. Events in Greenock took their toll and I went to bed.

    Message received and understood. Awaiting instructions. If it’s any help, I think Stoker has a steam-hammer or pneumatic drill left over from Operation Dewar.

    Broadsword calling Danny Boy…

  65. Macart says:

    Mornin’ Nana

    You’ve met John and Irene? Did you notice how much John resembles Kevin McKidd and Irene was a dead ringer for a young Deborah Kerr. Its like chattin’ to the whos who of Hollywood roond here. 🙂

  66. skintybroko says:


    Thanks for the links, in a simplistic view therefore an Independent Scotland would have this?
    Assume oil at $47.54
    Assume Tax take 60% (would we need to be as greedy as 70%?)
    60% of $47.54 = $28.52 direct to Scotland – 9.6 x what we currently receive yet it is considered a burden!!!!!

  67. Sinky says:

    Despite regurgitating Labour claims on Council Tax Freeze being underfunded ad nauseum, BBC Radio Scotland has a news blackout this morning on the official Spice findings.

  68. Fred says:

    Nana, you’re up n aboot early hen!

    The news that playing rugby causes brain damage should come as a surprise to nobod. Proof, if proof be needed, is our former team trooping out like Butlin’s Redcoats to reject independence in favour of a status quo which shafts the poor properly, maintains the House of Lords and is lead by a PM who fucks pigs!

  69. Nana Smith says:


    Um speaking of the ‘whos who’ of celebs where were you on Saturday?

    @skintybroko it’s a heavy load right enough but I’m pretty damned sure we could carry the burden with aplomb

    @Fred up with the lark and singing like a canary, well more like a canary with croup. After shouting to be heard at the rally my voice box is a wee bit tender.

  70. AndyH says:

    I hope Japan tanks our arses.

    The antics of some of those ex players during the 1st Indy campaign were disgusting.

    HTFF can we ever win anything if we don’t even see ourselves as a country in the first place.

    Thank Christ for Andy Murray.

  71. Macart says:


    Same place I’ve been for the past three months…

    … on a volcanic island plotting to take over the world. 🙂

    Or pulling an unpaid double shift at work, whichever is more believable.

  72. Macart says:


    Aye, its hard when folk who aspire to be your national heroes apparently don’t believe in their nationhood.

    Kinda puts you off the whole ‘get behind the team’ thing altogether.

  73. Nana smith says:


    Although the taking over the world idea is plausible and I do think you would make a very good ‘leader’ plus I could live with the threat of being dropped into a volcano as a deterrent for liars, thieves and house of lords sleepers….

    but in this real horrible tory nightmare you were working for nothing.

  74. Macart says:


    Cannae complain too much Nana. I’ve still got a job and that’s the main thing.

  75. Ken500 says:

    Re Richard Walker/the National

    Getting the appropriate energised, ambitious replacement, it could be beneficial. Imagine there would be quite a few interested applications, as long as they do not go off topic. It would be useful experience. The ground work has been done. An enterprise Grant might be feasible.

  76. galamcennalath says:

    Nicola on Human Rights legislation …

    The Tories made manifesto commitments. So what? They no mandate to even break wind in Scotland.

  77. john king says:

    who the hells Kevin Mckidd?
    Deborah Kerr?
    mare like Greta Garbo,
    I vant to be alone. 🙂

  78. Macnakamura says:

    john king says:
    23 September, 2015 at 6:45 am
    Apparently “Scotland are pissing themselves” for their first world cup game
    Amended for accuracy.

  79. galamcennalath says:

    DR using the excuse of a Lab councillor’s rant to put together an anti Ref2 article.

    We are going to have to wait until 2017 to get rid of these Lab councillors!

    What they fail to realise is that IndyRef2 is on the cards because of the way they all behaved before and after the vote in IndyRef1. Also, when in happens, it will have the backing of a majority of voters up front.

    The reality is, of course, they know they and their Union is on borrowed time.

  80. michael diamond says:

    Fred, 8.14 am. Aye that sums the nawbags up nicely right enough. They would rather be shafted by a pm who shafts pigs, than take a pride as citizens in their own independent country. Sad sad freaks.

  81. handclapping says:

    Are you sure that was John King that you met with Irene?

  82. Macart says:


    Bear in mind we’d had a good evening at the counting house. 😀

  83. Marcia says:

    If Labour had retained power in 2007 we would have seen our council tax bill double as it did in the 8 years prior to 2007 and no doubt even worse services for the privilege.

  84. Jim says:

    Sun headline is Scottish government pays £2.5bn council tax compo.

    I see Willie Rennie says that his party members are free to campaign for Independence following Kezia Dugdale’s lead.

    Well they can both go and fuck right off; just because the tide is now turning towards the yes side doesn’t mean anyone will trust you fuckers ever again, especially that abhorrent excuse for a politician Willie Rennie.

  85. Nana Smith says:

    Before I go out and before the internet is shut down to spare Davey’s blushes….

  86. Dave McEwan Hill says:

    The pig’s head affair is a having a strange effect on me. It is strengthening the feeling I have had for some time that PM Cameron is a political nonentity in the position to serve his masters because of a perceived decent presentational appearance and style and little else. The vacuity of all his political pronouncements is entirely deliberate and he is probably completely expendable.

    From the establishment’s point of view it wouldn’t do to have politician of conviction or judgement on such as the proper national interest interfering with their interest

    There is an excellent piece in today’s National by Greg Russell on Michael Ancrum’s opinion of Cameron

  87. X_Sticks says:

    @Ronnie (the Aberdeen one)

    Are you aware that Dell Hendrickson has published a wee Yes Aberdeen book of dozens of the photos he took during the referendum campaign. You feature in quite a few of them.

  88. DerekM says:

    you go away for a couple of days and come back to same old DR spin,britnat propaganda,SNP bad,PM shagging a pig blah blah ehhh whats that about the PM lmao

    Looks like the tories arnt going to wait and in a frenzy of power and greed could tear themselves to pieces,i wonder who Hambam has annoyed for all his dirty little secrets to be spilled.

    man we have got to get out of this loony bin.

  89. Jack Murphy says:

    OT TODAY.Nicola Sturgeon promises to defend the Human Rights Act. 🙂
    She said: “Human rights itself is a devolved issue. That means that any attempt to amend the Human Rights Act is likely, in our view, to require the legislative consent of the Scottish Parliament.
    “It is inconceivable in my opinion, given the support which the act commands across the Scottish Parliament, that such consent would be granted.
    “Let me make absolutely clear today, the Scottish government will certainly advocate that it is not granted.”

  90. Robert Peffers says:

    @Quakeawake says: 22 September, 2015 at 11:40 pm:

    ” … Is this is their idea of subtlety?”

    Subtle it is not, Quakeawake.

    As I’ve mentioned many times, I was born and brought up in a, “Pluchies Raw”, farm cottage that had neither piped gas, electricity, water or indoor drainage. We did have old fashioned battery wireless sets but the costs of the accumulators and two batteries meant we made little use of them for entertainment.

    We kids soon learned to construct Crystal Sets and this began my life long interest in Radio and electronics. So I have been aware of BBC bias since early WWII. This,” wireless”, was my only pre-school exposure to the English language for all around me spoke, “wir ain Lallans leid”.

    Back then the BBC were much more subtle than they are today but even to this Scot they were London Centric and anti-Scottish but very subtle with it.

    There is nothing subtle about the BBC these days and the bias has grown to be out and out anti-Scottish aggressive propaganda.

    Notice, in the past few days, the BBC over concentration upon rubbishing the whole vehicle building group that includes Volkswagen when the more obvious news slant of interest remains the UK wide breaking story of, “Piggate”, or, “Hameron”.

    Look a bit closer, though, and you will find the same, (err!), Pig ignorance of what passes as BBC Scotland. Here’s one item from the BBC that exposes them as totally ignorant of the Scottish Lowland language.

    Scots ‘have 421 words’ for snow.

    Scotland has more than 400 words and expressions for snow, according to a project to compile a Scots thesaurus.

    Academics have logged 421 terms – including “snaw” (snow) “”sneesl”, (to begin to rain or snow”, and, “Skelf” (a large snowflake) …

    Now these academics are from the University of Glasgow, and while there are indeed many Lowland Scots speakers in Glasgow, the main language spoken in that city is, “Weedgie”, which is not in fact a tune, (dialect), of the lowland Scots language but a Glasgow dialect of English we call, “Scottish Standard English”.

    Now here’s the truth, “a skelf”, in Scots has no direct reference to snow but means a flake, slice, “spail”, or shard of anything.

    As for, “sneesl”, if it is lowland Scots I’ve never heard the expression before but concede it could be Weedgie, a local variation or perhaps part of the, “Erse”, (Lallans for Irish or Gaelic).

    Strikes me this is just an another BBC/Glasgow Uni item being used to deflect Scot’s interest away from, “Piggate”, and, “Haneron”.

  91. Ronnie says:

    @ X_Sticks, 11:11.

    Aye, it’s clear that any suggestion of ‘Bonny Ronny’ would be a misnomer.

    But I remember you did a stint of stopping the traffic on Union Street with our 4-foot YES placard while I had a swift one in the ‘Prince’ and I think Dell got you, too.

    My airms were killing me, but I was jist aboot able to lift a pint!

    Happy Daze…

  92. Cadogan Enright says:

    My appeal against Facebook banning references on my page to PIG-GATE, Cameron and the dead pig was successful.

    I won the appeal based on the fact of what I was saying was true

  93. NN says:

    The Pig scandal is somewhat of a shame as it has overshadowed the revelations about Project Fear a touch. If only we could ask the Tories to time their pig scandals a little better. 😉

  94. AndyH says:

    I take it back!

    Actively willing this to be a win…

  95. john king says:

    Macart says
    @John King

    like this you mean?

    Ah see what you mean

  96. Effijy says:

    Breaking News-

    Complete denial that a sex act took place between the Prime Minister and a Pig.

    A reliable source confirms that there is no F**** way the pig
    in question would have considered entering a room with a stuck up Tory B******d like Cameron.

    Local Chemist confirms Tory Toffs requesting Oinkment for a nasty Rash-er around their snouts.

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