Wings Over Scotland

In the darkness or in the light, we can’t let the hope fade. Especially poignant cartoon Chris. Marvelous work.

Absolutely spot on. Ten years since indyref, and a plethora of nobodies, carpetbaggers and gender cultists in the SNP, principally Sturgeon, have trashed where we were. The SNP have become London’s little colonial enablers, playing England’s game by England’s rules. No vision, no drive, no sense of urgency about independence, happy to ride the gravy train for another ten years – until they all retire with their nice pensions and comfortable lives. Sitting watching as Scotland with oil reserves, has its only refinery shut down by England. Asset stripping writ large. The SNP, all talk, nae action, nae point.

Cut the candle, cut the rope.

We start again. All those in favour of independence say Aye.

Fareweel to a’ our Scottish fame,
Fareweel our ancient glory
Fareweel ev’n to the Scottish name,
Sae famed in martial story
Now Sark rins over Solway sands
An Tweed rins to the ocean
To mark where England’s province stands –
Sic a parcel o rogues in a nation!

What force or guile could not subdue
Through many warlike ages
Is wrought now by a coward few
For hireling ("Tractor" - Ed)’s wages
The English steel we could disdain
Secure in valour’s station
But English gold has been our bane –
Sic a parcel o rogues in a nation!

O would, or I had seen the day
That Treason thus could sell us,
My auld grey head had lien in clay
Wi Bruce and loyal Wallace!
But pith and power, till my last hour
I’ll mak this declaration
We’re bought and sold for English gold –
Sic a parcel o rogues in a nation!

…Robert Burns, 1791

Sturgeon’s rancid SNP – bought and sold for English/British gold since 2015. As for the Tartan Messiah herself, probably much earlier…

Can’t we have this cartoon plastered all over Scotland? We need everyone to see the truth before the SNP MSPs will act.

I am so ashamed and angry at the betrayal by the elected representatives. How can they live with themselves?

Rev, please get some answers at the show tonight. And a plan for immediate action.

Effijy

When it comes to wicks, I think she’d rather cut it off than get on it.

Sturgeon and her acolytes wrecked the Indy movement. We need more than hope to repair the damage done. Never again should we allow one political party to hijack our aspirations for independence.

We need to change the slow-burning candle for a stick of political dynamite.

Yip Sturgeon the Judas f*cked us big time – doing a tremendous amount of damage to, not just the cause – but to Scotland as well.

She’ll, go down in Scottish history – as the female version of John de Menteith – a treacherous b*stard.

…….” Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.”

There was never much ” fury ” from that ” idiot ” ( other than that directed at the man who showed them up for the total frauds that she & they are ) , just a succession of duplicitous soundbites .

All of them , indeed , ” signifying nothing “

Absolutely.

Permission to photocopy, print and post all over Scotland’s public places please, Chris?..

I hope that swine reads this page.

Republicofscotland

Nicola crashed indy. Was she a stupid narsissist or was she compromised.

Whats your thoughts

I’ve just had a thought. Email this cartoon to all SNP elected representatives. They MUST be made to face the truth.

Imagine if they were swamped with the same image – at least they would know what we think of them.

Cutting a long story short…

Gone are the most merciless days of yesteryear when they burnt us out (their brutal baillies loving the smell of “nae-hame in the morning”) and packed us onto creaking ships, or front-lined and cannon-foddered our ablest in their imperial wars.

Not quite so gone are the post 1872 Education Act innovations of first-day-at-school ear drops intended to make Scottish speech grate on us thereafter, and those weirdly magnetic nose sprays which somehow aligned our levels of skill with an inner compulsion to head South.

These latter more subtly intrusive practices had at least moved on from the horrendously barbaric. But in recent years it has become disturbingly evident that a sputtering Scottish candle of hope has yet again been threatening to flame up with indomitable ancient light. Utterly unacceptable of course. Some ultimate manoeuvre has become necessary to reinstate benign British darkness – that ever-alluring black velvet. Some final geostationary eclipse required. There must be an endless and starless Scottish night with no disquieting (and costly) false dawns possible ever again…

So Scotland is now undergoing a radically invasive medical intervention. A barely covert operation which entirely flaunts the already well-shredded “first do no harm” injunction. To be specific, Scotland’s feeble and failing heart is being excised and will be unceremoniously binned in that black bag in the corner with the contamination symbol on it (and statutory Union Jack, needless to say). This will be terminal, obviously. There will be no transplant.

Well, actually, the unsettling and more complex reality is that Scotland in its entirety (minus trashed inert heart) is ITSELF already being used as a life-saving enhancement for a neighbouring, seriously ailing, body politic.

Throughout the ongoing operation all vital functions are of course being minutely monitored. An array of masked MSM anaesthetists of long experience are at work, intuiting what each moment prompts. Should the patient’s eyes flicker momentarily open in delirious alarm at expiring functionality [“Grangemouth Syndrome” in current jargon], then haze quickly redescends as the ever-attentive MSM team tweak requisite analgesic levels.

Please do not deem them malign. They harbour no ill-intention. Spurn all such thoughts. Though, of course, to paraphrase another’s shrewd double-negative, if they didn’t believe what they believe, they wouldn’t be sat there scrubbed-up.

We must also bear in mind in mitigation that ultimate operational decisions are being taken in a deep location far from the current scene (via the wonders of modern nano-surveillance technology).

Scotland will not wake up. That’s the nub. The faint still poignantly pulsing white light of its deepest inner consciousness will flicker a few times and then flatline forever. Scotland will be finally, definitively, irrevocably, switched off. The ensuing silence may raise a pang for a moment or two. Or even three. (And I suspect a few muffled indecorous cheers may be just audible through that forgotten intercom over there). But Scotland’s ultimate (if inadvertent) sacrifice will not have been in vain if its good neighbour breathes strong and hearty again. (Surely I hear even now a nobly soaring British anthem in the making…and fitly written by some proud Scot among us?)

I happen to notice on the operation theatre door (my attention wandering during the procedure) a discoloured ‘BETTER TOGETHER’ sign (was that name always ironic?) being taken down and replaced by the more enigmatic and somehow coldly ominous term ‘RESET’.

What to make of it all…?

Shug @ 12:13 pm

“Nicola crashed indy. Was she a stupid narsissist or was she compromised. Whats your thoughts”

Probably both, according to postcolonial theory:

link to yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com

Excellent idea, Sarah. And to any lingering supporters.
Chris’s cartoon conveys it all.
The ‘NAH’ hand looks a bit like the shape of the rabbit in that hand shadows on the wall game – reminiscent of the rabbit-in-headlights…
The last frame with red, white & blue is a touch of genius too.

@Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh (1.08) –

Brilliant comment.

Would you be okay with us publishing it as a post on OTS?

@Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh (2.59) –

🙂

Many thanks.

It’ll be on-site later today.

Please keep us in mind if you’d like to have any of your poetry appear on OTS – Northcode has kindly given us some of his work to publish and it’s gone down a treat.

@Republicofscooby 10:54

Don’t you usually accuse everybody from the ambassador’s country of lying?

Don’t you usually discount everything online unless it comes from one of your favoured conspiracy theorists?

I’m not expecting answers BTW.

But you should enlighten us. Robertson stayed quite what about the meeting? On the edge of my seat here!

@ Anthem at 1.14: “post it to all MSPs..”.

You’re right – it is harder to avoid if a letter with the cartoon printed in the text lands on your desk. And it needn’t cost a fortune – just a large letter stamp and a personalised copy for each SNP MSP in the envelope addressed to Holyrood.

They need something to kick them up their backsides.

Hearing that Rev. Stu is getting rave audience at The Ayes Still Have It show.

Rev, I’m looking forward to hearing your full report on the events today. I hope there will be something encouraging to share with us.

Morning Stuart

I predicted everyone would have a good time at the Imax!
Yeah me!

Looking very stylish Mr Campbell.

Snazzy waistcoat & jacket!

Any chance of a close-up of the killer boots?

From Twitter

Neil Findlay Where is the national outcry about the closure of Grangemouth? The decision to close it is an unspeakable disaster for the area and for Scotland

Irvine Welsh answers:

@IrvineWelsh
Why bother? It’s not as if anybody is going to do anything about it. All we can do is threaten to vote for someone else who we know won’t do anything about it.

Exactly! Well said Irvine Welsh.

Auld Highlander

The USA made amendments to the contract regarding nukes & the UK government allowed it without any parliament scrutiny. They’re making sure Trump can’t change it in case he is voted in.

Their *review every ten yrs* has been upgraded to *permanent* but they prefer *on an enduring basis* double speak & a UK commitment to modernise it’s nukes at a cost to the rest of us. The joys of NATO membership .

Also to cover corrupt U payments, any defaults & to be guarantor. Permanently. For money they’ve hee-haw chance of repaying.

Also to help Yahoo continue geno-cide. Permanently.

Until …as long as it takes.

Smashing eh? All warring that’s fck all to do with the UK & it’s own litany problems & even less to do with Scotland who aren’t even consulted.

The Labour administration is a god sent opportunity for Scottish nationalists.
I does not seem capable of putting a foot right.
NB. best make plans for a nuke shelter.
Hope springs etc.

ffs…Site prick John Main’s back.

I was hoping he/she/it has gone south.

@auld highlander says: 15 September, 2024 at 9:30 am

There’s a big difference between 60 billion and 60 million.

I’m kinda torn here. I would like to explain it, but then again, I might find myself giving you change from a 20 quid note one day!

On the subject of the pensioners winter heating allowance. Just as the Guardian BTL is often full of posts from people exulting over the early demise of the elderly, because they’re all supposedly Tories, so there are a few of the regulars on here who celebrate the early demise of our Scottish elderly, because they’re all supposedly Yoons.

The fragrant Geri is one such.

Seemingly the young are going to vote Labour in England always, whilst our Scottish young are going to vote for Indy always. So, death to the old.

At least, that’s how it used to be before Starmer decided payment of extra dosh to old people who don’t really need it should stop.

An idea I’m generally in favour of. In fact, I’d like to see all payments from hard-pressed taxpayers to people who don’t really need it stopped too. But that’s a different argument.

Maybe those who used to post their glee about elderly Yoons dying soon need to learn to think things through. Over to you, Geri.

I see Harvie is going back to his old job as a rent boy.

A BRIEF HISTORY OF HOPE

I fear you may have inadvertently revealed the working title of the forthcoming Sturgeon autobiography (get your orders in now)

Other titles being considered include:

I RECALL

THE MULTIVERSE BEHIND THE FILING CABINET

NARCISSI ARE NOT THE ONLY FLOWER

FAG HAG LETS CAT OUT OF BAG

“Nicola crashed indy. Was she a stupid narsissist or was she compromised.”

Shug @12.13pm.

Definitely compromised – as Craig Murray has said the English security services -which are an enemy of Scots – has ALL the WhatsApp messages of Sturgeon’s and her vile treacherous cliques to boot – ask yourself why haven’t these surely incriminating messages, been released to the public – or any inquiry.

Also I’d image the foreign security services on the Thames – and at Hubble road – have a fair bit of compromising dirt on many of Sturgeon’s clique – of which a D-Notice has surely been issued to the ever salivating unionist media – to not reveal the amount sleaze her, and her clique have committed since 2015.

Sturgeon – has done tremendous damage, to not just the cause – but to Scotland – do you actually believe this amount of damage is accidental or due to incompetence?

“Don’t you usually accuse everybody from the ambassador’s country of lying?”

Wow!

The supposedly impenetrable is no more.

The headquarters of Unit 8200 in the Glilot base – was struck last month.

Never mind the likes of Meta, Google -wiki and YouTube and plethora of VPN companies will as usual – rush to employ these ex-IOF mon–ster-s.

@crazycat 1:47

That’s a well reasoned response. As if to emphasise how rare that is on here, a few of the usual suspects have followed up with notifications of what they REALLY care about.

A special mention must surely go to the boy fae scooby, who still hasn’t sussed that real Scots like to see their country given the dignity of a capital ‘S’.

Anyhoo, as nobody has bothered to deal with the point I made earlier, I’ll repeat it.

Some of the usual regulars like to gloat over the older Yoons dying out, to be replaced by younger supposedly pro-Indy voters. Some Labour tribalists like to gloat over the older Tories dying out, to be replaced by younger supposedly progressive DEI enthusiasts and immigrants.

It’s the same attitude really: “if you don’t agree with me, I look forwards to the day you’re dead”. It’s sad that some pro-Indy supporters are now being caught in the trap, but maybe what goes around really does come around.

Starmer won’t be prioritising Tory voters over his preferred support base. As a unionist, he won’t be prioritising pro-Indy voters either. He might actually class them as Tartan Tories anyway. It’s a fact of life in the U.K., for some decades now, ever since Blair set out to rub the noses of the Right in diversity, that Labour has been about New Brits first and foremost.

Even I can see that our New Brits won’t consent to be taxed ever more heavily to maintain an aging population that they have nothing in common with. An aging population, that by and large, loathes and hates much of what the New Brits are about.

This will be, of course, just as much of a problem for a future Independent Scotland as it is for the UK now. As the late, unlamented, unelected continuity boy said quite recently, Scotland needs a million or so New Scots, preferably from the background he feels most comfortable with.

I can’t see them grafting to support our pensioners for too long, once they’re here and are calling all the shots.

Ask Alf Baird. He kens all about colonialism.

What is it the snp has against the indy movement an independence

They seem to be trying to stop indy

Swinney’s article in the national was quite uninspiring.

Geri @ 11.37pm

Thing is, going by Swinneys dull as dishwater performance today and the outpouring from the party before country clique that were WELL warned (and abused for our efforts) in advance in the National today then it’s time to demolish the rotten house and start from scratch again.

No more whining about “the only party that will realistically achieve independence” crap, they disappeared in panto dame guise long ago..

There’s only one way to get a phoenix from the ashes – and that involves serious vetting the independence party/ movement born out of this chaos for the latch on ticks of political travellers and perverts who have disgusted and let down the ones that matter most whom they manifestly regularly disdain- the electorate.

Them and their happy clappers; a special place in hell and all that..

I watched a utube video of a daily rectum interview with Tommy Sheridan and Alex Salmond espousing the virtue and necessity of a Scotland United approach for the 2026 HR election,without being negative or a party pooper can anyone explain to me how this is going to be achieved bearing in mind that the Scum Nonce Party are still intent and determined on destroying Salmond and any semblance of unity

I also note that Salmond has dropped any mention of Scots SOVEREIGNTY and has reverted to the NECESSITY to PROVE to our OVERLORDS WM that we deserve independence, when/if we have enough votes we will NEGOTIATE with WM FOR our independence
Is this the NEW version 2 of can we have a referendum

What happened to all the grandiose pronouncements of Scotland’s SOVEREIGNTY and the COR

Call me a cynic but I have an inkling WM might say NAW

Looking at George Square and the HOF rally it appears to be woefully attended and TBQH I didn’t know if it was a Scottish independence rally or a Pale stin ian rally, and again TBQH I never attended due to illness BUT I probably wouldn’t have gone anyway because it is still the same speakers saying the same things with apathy ruling

FFS if people cannot get angry and outraged at their jobs being thrown away at Grangemouth by the LYING LIEBOUR BASTARDS while 5 english refineries get upgrades WM has won

A big thank you to all you good citizens who have lived in this country all their working lives who paid all their stamps, never claimed any benefits and voted NO.

We the UK Government are very appreciative and know you won’t mind that in order to save our country we need to stop giving you a free TV licence, heating allowance and all the other perks.

Better Together loves you!

Wait a minute! If you did claim benefits you would still have your insurance stamps paid for would you not. You could be on benefits for your entire working life and still get full state pension.

Money saving Martin did write about the advantages of buying any stamps you were short of a state pension recently. I just scanned over it but I’m wondering if you are not better off being short of stamps and then getting pension credit with all it’s perks.

What happens with immigrants newly arrived in this country who have zero stamps?

The UK Gov. have the legal right (thanks to the Tories) to check everyone’s bank account. No reason why they couldn’t find out who can and cannot afford to do without the TV licence & heating allowance.

Although that could get tricky if you banked your money in the Cayman Islands?

@Dorothy Devine (8.59) –

Aye, traffic is thin these days.

Hard to tell if folk are generally scunnered or have just run out of things to say about the cul-de-sac we’re in.

Again and again we come back to the disgraceful stalling re Branchform and the sheltering of the main players. Until that’s resolved it’s hard to see any forward movement.

🙁

Ian Brotherhood
Ignored
says:
16 September, 2024 at 9:05 am

@Dorothy Devine (8.59) –

Aye, traffic is thin these days.

Hard to tell if folk are generally scunnered or have just run out of things to say about the cul-de-sac we’re in.

On the naughty step?

BTL content has been diminishing for months now because pretty much all attempts at discourse tends to (and has been allowed to) be continually steered into low brow adversarial bickering before it even gets a chance to develop into something decent and worthwhile.
If folk just want to read the output others contribute and not add anything to the discussions themselves, then why should anybody continue to waste their precious time trying to post content in an attempt to stimulate discussions.
Stop being mere observers and start being worthy contributors would be my suggestion if folk actually want this place to be busier.
Pissing around on fucking facebook and twitter / x in bubbles that hardly anyone can view because those sites are shite and control content and speech and are the very corporate powers that we want to be free from, or post on what is supposedly the biggest site relating to returning Scotland to self-governance and has a far more open policy on what can be stated and has the potential to reach a wider audience.

Sitting waiting on the current embedded powers that be to resolve matters that are clearly in their interests to sit on and drag out is crazy behaviour.
Take the power back by the simple process of developing a range of sensible policies which will be a no-brainer for the electorate to be supportive of, and once sensible folk empowered by the electorate regain control, then common sense and decency will hopefully prevail again and we’ll have a far better chance of flushing away the malignant corruption we currently have across many facets of our society.

Work towards the Scottish people having :

Better control of our executive, our legislature, and our judiciary – Because they are a shit state at the moment

Better control of our fiscal matters – Because they are a shit state at the moment

Better control or our energy resources – Because they are a shit state at the moment

Better control of our immigration policy – Because they are a shit state at the moment

Better control of our education curriculum – Because they are a shit state at the moment

Better control of our health and social services – Because they are a shit state at the moment

Better control of our trade arrangements – Because they are a shit state at the moment

Better control of our environment – Because they are a shit state at the moment

FOOLS RUSH IN..
The «Scottish» government saves the BritComGames*.
Sport loving Australia seemingly hasn’t the dosh.
However, rising costs mean a scaled down Glasgow event.
Can’t deliver the Great Matter but here’s a rather wee matter to show ScotGov still registers, just a little, on the international scale.
Opportunity for AI and remote woke?
Recycled Paris Olympics opener in VR?
The well greased fundament of political mediocrity plies its tedious trade.

*British Commonwealth=anglo cultural imperialism in a nice new frock.

My father’s wish of seeing Scottish independence before he dies was suddenly lost, when he departed his mortal coil last week in Aberdeen Royal Infirmary.

Dad was a 24/7 carer for my mother, who is currently bed-ridden and alone in their home, unable to even use a telephone.

I’ve spent the past three weeks witnessing first-hand the utter shambles of the Social Care system and the NHS, both of which have been telling me that there are simply no resources available for this kind of thing.

Meanwhile, I am reading about INEOS, the ineptitude and costs of HS2, government ministers in Westminster with fingers in the till etc.

One of the social care team actually said to me that my mother would receive more care if I took her down to Aberdeen beach, wrapped her head in a scarf, placed her in a dingy and pushed her out into the North Sea.

Ten years on from the IndyRef, things could have been so different. I told people at the time that we might well have a tough five years ahead when we win. I genuinely believed that after a decade of independence, we’d be seeing the shoots and fruits of the struggle. It would have been so worth it.

I will not rest until I see Sturgeon and her deviant cabal behind bars, but I fear they are the shape of things to come, regardless.

OT

Just to lift your spirits a wee, I enjoyed this more than I expected to.

link to youtube.com

I expected the usual pish; “Alice Roberts – British Picts” style watery gruel, but it was surprisingly free of it, and peppered with Scots too! What a surprise. – But the real tour-de-force was the enchanting Scottish scenery and landscape.

Just hope they wee boys in the Roman helmets werena’ geen ony funny ideas, and kent which side of the waw they were on.

Lol. Scottish wee laddies. ‘Course they did.

@Tartan Tory (12.01) –

Condolences to you and yours.

So – there was another failed attempt to assassinate the Orange One – Donald Trump, at his golf course in Florida – this time the suspect was captured and it turns out, he has links to U’s vile A-z-o-v Battalion – which has changed its name to the 3rd Assault Brigade to try and hide its vileness.

U assassins armed with western weapons – are tasked with closing down dissenting voices – voices that are calling for a peace deal between U and R in Europe and further afield.

“An ex SNP MP told me about 5 years ago that Sturgeon had opened an Offshore account in the Cayman Islands. Apparently this is common knowledge at Holyrood.”

Blue White Dynamite.

Click on the links – in the link and maybe you’ll find Sturgeon the Judas stash.

link to wikileaks.org

@ Republicofscooby says: 16 September, 2024 at 3:09 pm

Orange One – Donald Trump

U and R in Europe

The capital letters come thick and fast, but for the boy fae scooby, puir wee Scotland must forever languish with a puir wee letter ‘s’. So we’re no a real country at all.

Even the “vile” A-z-o-v boys get a capital ‘A’. Maks ye think right enough.

The republic of scooby (population one) must be a grand place. You can cheer on the colonialist, imperialist, tsarist regime in R, then come here and make out you’re against colonialism, imperialism, royalty, etc. and you’re all for the rights of the little people to determine how Scotland’s destiny should be determined.

I wonder what colour the scooby sky is?

@ Dan says: 16 September, 2024 at 10:15 am

BTL content has been diminishing for months now

It’s been diminishing for 2.5 years, Dan, since it became crystal clear that a solid strand of Scottish Indy want Scotland to be an open air prison shithole like P’s R, or a post-shithole wasteland like the one the Humous boys have precipitated on the heads of their own people, just so they can preserve their own yellow hides.

If you’ve only just noticed, then you haven’t been paying attention.

@ Confused 11am FFS Irvine Welsh is falling into the same pish the better together arseholes love to spout,
SCOTS didn’t vote AGAINST independence SCOTS voted FOR independence , ENEMIES of Scotland voted AGAINST independence because we’re too fucking soft and stupidly NEED people to love us and think we’re so fair and kind, whilst everyone steals everything of value down to our gold fillings

Once again politicians and their political parties are more concerned about non natives being insulted or feeling left out whilst the non natives set out all their demands and the indigenous natives get told to suck it up
The Scum Nonce Party were quick to follow the labour bastards in removing the Winter Fuel Allowance for OUR pensioners BUT like the labour bastards they are extremely quick in throwing OUR hard earned taxes around to warring countries or paying bribes for hostages

ALL these politicians have one thing in common when it comes to sending money to foreign countries for bribes,ammunition,armaments,charity,welfare or ANY other virtue signalling , IT IS NEVER THEIR MONEY, IT IS ALWAYS OUR MONEY,but AFTER giving our money away, they tell us that we have to suffer more austerity because for some strange reason we don’t have a pot to piss in

I watched a bit of HOF in George Square the attendance looked abysmal, should we be surprised, there is NO PASSION because we are allowing politicians to DESTROY Scotland, there were people flying a foreign flag with no accompaning Scottish Saltire at a SCOTTISH independence rally, that tells me THEIR allegiance
BUT still Alex said anyone living in Scotland deserves a vote on our constitution because they are haha new Scots , irrespective of what flag they fly
BAD blood and soil Scots

Robert Hughes @4.49pm.

Robert.

Trump is no better than Harris, the only difference between them is that Trump wants to do things his own way, he’s not part of the clique – but the outcome will be the same – he paved the way for the war in U – he destroyed the (JCPOA) deal with Iran – he paved the way for the Z–io- mons-ters to have their embassy in Jerusalem and coaxed other nations to follow suit.

Both Harris and Trump are in the pockets of the AIPAC and the wealthy pro-I–s-ra-el community in the US. Harris; was caught cutting and pasting Biden’s policies – into her own policy charter – and there were claims Harris wore an earpiece -shaped as an earing in her debate with Trump.

It doesn’t matter who becomes the next POTUS- whether it be Harris or Trump – nothing will change behind the scenes – and the losers will be the American public.

Planning application for Flamingo Land rejected.

I went to the Independence event in the Glasgow Science Centre on Saturday. I took the train and walked past the Hope over Fear event in George Square. I counted about 100 people but it was heavy rain and the main speakers had left. I confirm foreign flags were being waved. Because of other family celebratory commitments I went on my own. I needed have been so concerned. I met lot’s of Independence supporters from all over the country and they were very pleasant. I thought the Independence movement was alive but with a new sense of realism. Its been a hard ten years. Stu was on good form, not many people can make Alex Salmond feel uncomfortable. Well worth the money.

@ Republicofscooby says: 16 September, 2024 at 7:56 pm

I predict that Trump won’t win the race

Hardly a week goes by on here without you predicting something or other. You rely on everybody forgetting or not caring which is why you never have to go back and say “sorree”.

It’s a 50-50. Maybe you’ll strike lucky.

The war with the RF and Ch-in-a is coming

OFFS. You’re predicting a war with the RF that actually started in February 2022. Maybe you’re another one of our New Scots who actually believes it’s 1446. That would explain that other obsession of yours.

If you’re going to war with the Russians then best read Life and Fate by Vasily Grossman. Just so you know what the fuck will happen.

@ Breeks says: 16 September, 2024 at 9:18 pm

nobody asked me

Awww, well I’m asking you. Just when did so many of the self-identifying lions for Independence become craven apologists for the imperialist, colonialist, murderous, neo-Tsarist regime based in Moscow?

What the fk is wrong with you Scotland?

Maybe there’s nothing too much wrong with Scotland, but plenty wrong with those Scots who think like you. Cheering on the destruction of sovereignty, language, culture, history and independence? You’re seriously going to try to go round the doors selling that message to the people of Scotland?

genocidal maniacs

Jesus wept, get a fucking grip of yourself, man.

It’s great being Scottish no matter what. We are the originals. Just look at our neighbours. I feel better already.

Breeks

Well said.

Regards their weapons LOL Couldn’t agree more.

Outdated overpriced rubbish & it’s maintenance is outdated overpriced rubbish too & then there’s the technology to work them. Only a trained few & most of them are now with the daisies. NATO has been shown to be a complete disaster because they all use different weapons, different maintenance, have no industry, use different technology to work them & then some countries don’t want to take part at all while others are forced to hand over what they’ve got.

What a friggin joke & they’ve paid into that protection racket for decades. The EU already complaining they all need to start again from scratch & have their own military.

The USA sent aircraft carriers to Isr but removed them so fast cause drones would render them useless in five minutes.

It can be funny watching congressmen lose their shit at $90,000 dollar bill for a packet of nuts for their aircrafts.

Someone at the Pentagon got carried away making boy toys that only look good parked up as they’re are totally useless & don’t fly if it’s cold, don’t drive if it’s dusty & don’t fire if it’s wet. Now a fleet of aircraft carriers are having to hide somewhere cause of drones LMAO!

@Geri 12:19pm
She gave an explanation of her decisions over the last ten years and the pain it cost her but as you weren’t there you wouldn’t have heard that.

Aye, it wasn’t mandatory.

No one is talking about independence cause it’s been done to death already, isn’t on the horizon anytime soon & some of us really, really don’t wish to pay to listen to yet more talking about what everyone should’ve done but didn’t.

Joanna did nothing for Scotland. She wasn’t voted into a seat THREE times to take up gender issues, stop the prorogation of parliament or to try reverse/stop/2nd vote a democratic vote with Brexshit. Three issues that would be none of our business. She was instructed to exit. Not to pick out office space.

Good luck with her chances of a seat in Holyrood. There’d have been a time I’d have rejoiced but not now. At least five yrs too late & if it’s still clutching at the SNP then I think her chances are slim to nil.

George Ferguson, Cherry has had more than ample opportunity over the last 10 years to explain why she NEVER exposed the deviance and perversion running rampant within the Scum Nonce Party, it never stopped her from challenging bojo on the prorogation of WM, though it only benefited the english but did nothing about Scots sovereignty

And to be quite honest as Geri says some of us are more interested in what the future holds for independence than raking over the failed history of 10 years ago, as far as I’m concerned Alex Salmond has spent the last 10 years telling us that IF we had the opportunity of another referendum he would still give the people who DENIED us our independence another chance to do it all again
It is the english who love living in the past with the we won the war churchill mentality, but soon we will be back to ration books and lard if Keir STARVER and company have their way, so what was decided that would stop that happening

I already commented previously that many on the list of Alex Salmonds guests consisted of people who were MP’s and MSP’s within the snp and sat COWARDLY by while sturgeon the betrayer did everything in her power to DESTROY independence are you now inferring that these people have suddenly found a SPINE from somewhere

Very well put, Breeks – all of it.

Breeks @ 9.18 & 6.29

Even by yr own stellar standards , those are two outstanding posts , compadre .

Our ( decent ) politicians & known n trusted commentators should be organising n leading public demonstrations , talks ,marches ( before they ban them completely ) around an Anti-War * flag * .

Let the message be unequivocal : Independence = Liberation from the Colonial yoke AND Liberation from the rabid Dogs of War that are dragging us to hell ; all the while gibbering utter pish about * Democracy * as they erase every trace of that concept from the people they are meant to serve .

If they’re such great advocates of Democracy , put it to the test – have a vote on it . Ask the people if they support bringing the World to it’s possible end ; show them the full horror of War ( never difficult to find examples ) , show them the exploded heads , mangled torsos , show them the lumps of flesh that were once smiling children , tell them THAT will be their children/grandchildren , sons n daughters , oh and remind them the Government says ” sorry but we can’t afford to help old folk with their Winter fuel costs , you see these lovely new missiles are so terribly expensive ”

Tell them the fuckn Truth – for once . THEN ask them if they consent . THEN talk about Democracy

What Alex said to Fergus n Joanna told Phillipa in between sips of tea n the other Alex intimated to Dennis what he thought Tasmina said to Kirk regarding the quality of Michelle’s footwear …….Zzzzzz .

Being facetious here , but , really it all seems so irrelevant in the face of the – truly – existential threat of suicidal , annihilating stupidity

If after the past 10 years the Scottish electorate hold a lack of desire and urgency for returning Scotland to self-governing status, then it shows what a complete and utter abject failure our “leaders” of the Indy Movement have been in conveying the message and necessity that Scotland has to have full autonomy and control over our country to have any chance of improving matters.

If these supposed brightest and best individual political minds couldn’t come up with any coherent strategies, and then work to develop these initiatives with others to generate enthusiasm for the cause across Scottish society, then they really need to give themselves a reality shake and regain some self-awareness.

It’s a not too dissimilar situation to the idiots involved in trying to procure the build of a couple of ferries, and many years and hundreds of million quid spaffed later, they still continue screwing things up and think they are doing a good job.

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<Dan: "If these supposed brightest and best individual political minds couldn’t come up with any coherent strategies, and then work to develop these initiatives with others to generate enthusiasm for the cause across Scottish society, then they really need to give themselves a reality shake…"

Spot on. The number of times in the last couple of years we’ve concluded that “oh well, there are some really clued up people still in there and surely they’ll be working on ways to get back on track with gaining independence…”

You hope and you keep hoping. Eventually you realise this is exactly what went wrong after 2014, that so many of us naïvely assumed there was a plan and it’s all in good hands and would become clear when the time’s right.

Waiting now for anyone who was there on Saturday night to report that there really is a plan. But as Alf Baird has (thankfully) repeated: unless the stalwarts acknowledge the colonial reality, they won’t get us out of this. The fact that hearts are in the right place isn’t really enough.

Our latest is highlighting the long-term efforts of a lone tweeter (an art lecturer in London) to raise awareness of the dangers posed by Freeports/SEZs.

SALVO/ISP have been warning of this for a long time. Does anyone know if it was discussed at the IMax gathering on Saturday?

If Grangemouth lies within such a proposed zone, who’s to say there won’t be some ‘deal’ whereby the refinery is ‘allowed’ to remain functioning so long as it’s signed-up to the very dodgy T&Cs involved?

link to offtopicscotland.com

SteepBrae @ 9:33 am

“unless the stalwarts acknowledge the colonial reality, they won’t get us out of this”

Yes, that is the harsh but now increasingly obvious reality. The people have to understand their colonial condition:

link to bpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com

@ Rab and Geri

Freeports were not discussed at the IMax gathering, at least not during the main event. I have no idea what was talked about afterwards when people carried on meeting informally. Grangemouth was mentioned, though.

The event over-ran, so hardly any of the questions submitted by the audience were dealt with.

Geri
Ignored
says:
17 September, 2024 at 10:32 am

Rab

I’ve also read the repeated warnings regarding Grangemouth & Freeports & it definitely will be miraculously saved but under new management & within the Freeport zone therefore out of Scotlands hands.

I’d be interested in hearing if that was discussed too.

Why?

If you were so interested in what was discussed you should have gone to the event.

Looks as if you are just desperately trying to find fault with the event.

Surely ‘Grangemouth’ & ‘Freeports’ are of little importance what with all the other major events going on in the world.

More on postal services in a Better Together Scotland

With ‘Royal Mail 48’ you get a tracking number but you are only able to track when the parcel is delivered.

That might be good for the sender but absolutely of no good to the recipient.

It’s just pure mental. Why would you want to track a parcel once it’s been delivered?

I want to track a parcel to find out when it will be delivered so that I can be at home for the delivery or better yet to divert to a ‘click & collect’ shop.

Conflict will always follow them. They’ll always covet someone else’s land & assets. Them being good Christians too.

They’re busy picking a fight & arming separatists in Taiwan (who are more than happy the way they are) despite international law already confirming it belongs to China & they’ve no business there.

& In U. Totally trashed an already sovereign independent country in the hopes of taking over R to get their mitts on their assets too. Half the population dead or displaced & now they can’t take a shit without asking America if it’s okay.

Yet here at home they’re democracy deniers to the country who actually democratically voted to separate at a legal & legitimate election despite being a fully signed up member to the UN charter including the right of a ppl to Self determination.

*Tumbleweed* from all of them LOL! Better together rubbish & whistling.

Decolonisation & refusal to take their elected seats (in an all but name) English parliament is the only game in town.

Continually looking to be elected to a foreign parliament only demonstrates they’re not serious about independence & are more interested in serving another sovereign nation instead of their own. They’ve sworn allegiance to another even before they’re allowed to sit down.

@James Che, sorry to hear of your and your spouse’s travails. Best wishes.

So Lammy snuck of to U with big fat cheque worth £600 million quid – on the orders of Starmer, who has cut pensioners Winter Fuel Payments – to date consecutive UK governments have given U (Since 2022) – almost £13 billion quid.

Meanwhile, Starmer will slash and burn funding to public services – whilst he’s pledged to support U to the bitter end – whatever that may be – and give U £3 billion quid a year (Announced on the 10th of July 2024).

“This would be monstrous in itself. He saves £1.1 billion, but the very next day the British Foreign Secretary, David Lammy, went to Ki-e-v and handed over another £600 million of our money, half the saving of the winter fuel allowance.

And if that’s not an indication of two tier governance, I really don’t know what it is.”

Said MP – George Galloway.

To get the full list – of what UK taxpayers will be, and are currently being fleeced for, with U in mind; click the link below and look for my 4pm comment – which has the link in it.

link to craigmurray.org.uk

@Republicofscotland says: 17 September, 2024 at 4:16 pm

I’m afraid CM rather lost his credibility since he decided to throw in his lot with the Humous boys. Anybody supporting the kidnap, rape, torture, mutilation and murder of innocent lassies can take a flying fuck at the moon as far as I am concerned. As for spending a year cowering in a tunnel whilst your own women and kids die in the tens of thousands to keep your yellow hide intact, well, that’s not what I would expect of any decent Scottish man.

But by all means you continue to plug what matters most dearly to you, Ros, the extermination of a sovereign people at the hands of a neo-Tsarist dictator.

Makes no sense for you to be using a pro-Scottish Indy site for that, but then again, makes no sense for you to write “scotland” over and over again either.

The Z-io-mon-sters blow up intercepted pagers.

The English propaganda machine – the BBC – is carrying the story.

ITV’s news programme, also carrying the story.

“At least eight people have died and thousands are injured after handheld pagers, used by He–zb-ol–lah, exploded in Leb–an-on on Tuesday afternoon

The health ministry says 200 of those injured are in a critical condition, with a munition expert telling the BBC the devices were likely packed with up to 20 grams of military-grade high explosive.”

link to bbc.co.uk

@ Republicofscooby says: 17 September, 2024 at 6:38 pm

I heard that story on the news. Thought it was great. Fair made my day.

Why don’t you start a crowdfunder? Maybe rush the injured here for treatment?

Consider how the UKers reacted after they WON ! Malicious prosecutions and much worse.
A result too close even with all manipulation available used.
The McHaties are out the box and on the loose.

@ John says: 17 September, 2024 at 8:07 pm

Scotland has many McHaties infesting the country. How they would enjoy hurting people they don’t agree with

I’m against big, imperialist, colonialist empires annexing wee independent, sovereign nations. Given Scotland’s position as a wee, aspirationally independent sovereign nation adjacent to a big, imperialist, colonialist empire, I remain eternally flummoxed at the BTL support for Tsar P of R as he attempts to extirpate the people he believes have no right to exist.

I’m against jihadists playing pass-the-parcel with the breasts they’ve hacked off screaming, innocent, young lassies. I’m flummoxed that anybody can pick fault with my position and even go so far as to support the knife-wielding jihadists.

Alone of all the posters on here, I’ve called several times for a negotiated ME cease fire on both sides, with an exchange of hostages and prisoners.

The usual suspects are angling for a real gen-o-cide of 7+ million people, not the pretendy one of 40+ thousand, many of whom are fanatical fighters. Many of whom would slay your average Scot, man, woman or child, on sight, without a second’s hesitation, as has been proven over and over again on the streets of this country and just about every country in Europe, as well as further afield.

But I’m the bad one, eh?

You’re right, we dodged a bullet. We’re so far from being able to recognise reality it’s best we leave running the place to somebody else.

Dinna fash. Only joking. We can run our own affairs, but just as when the SNP were in the ascendant, the likes of the usual suspects will have to be identified, corralled, kettled, and shunted far out of sight where they can do no harm.

They’re only accelerating their own demise. They’ll never get along with their neighbours, ever. Even when their neighbours are just minding their own business they’ve to act like terrorists & assassinate diplomats, journalists, charity workers, medics, women, children, prisoners & UN aid agencies.

They’re thugs & it’ll no longer exist because even UN instructions, resolutions & legal judgments are flagrantly ignored & the whole world has had enough. It will be ostracised out of existence which is already happening as the Yanks already deserting. Its maybe dawned on them geno-cide isn’t a fcking good look & neither is a full blown war with Lebanon, Iraq, Iran & Syria cause their domestic doesn’t work.

& So will the UK. When the dust settles in U there will be a new world order & a major shift at the UN that definitely won’t include little England or France on the security council. That’ll be their reward for being persistent agitators to a nuclear superpower that absolutely did NOT benefit anyone or promote peace & security & benefitted absolutely no one in UK or France either. Even the Yanks are telling them to STFU. They’re wee diddy has beens who think they still have an empire to meddle in.

When the Yankees come to the negotiating table with P they’ll dump little Englanders on their arse. A useless agitator who has fck all to offer the world but aggravation.

NATO is finished too. It can’t organise a piss up in a brewery & it’s slowly dawning on the EU that they’re sitting ducks with absolutely no military force, no industry, no technology, no codes to the good stuff, no money & no policies LOL! Unless Mr America says so. The colonisers have become the colonised LMAO & now they’re watching Mr America dismantle their economy & there’s hee-haw they can do but watch. Can’t have wee diddy Europeans becoming a super state.

So there goes the neighborhood up in smoke. The “international community” is all about to change. Out with colonisers & in will be the ex colonised, India, South Africa, the global south & Scotland will be amongst them at some stage as an independent nation again. Little Billy no mates will be relegated to the bottom of the pile. Muted on the global stage.

Isn’t it quite telling really, that when Australia sees sense and starts unbinding the shackles that Scotland, Glasgow in fact, an SNP minority run council comes to the rescue for the Empire- sorry – Commonwealth games replete with hee haw funding from Gloriana Engerlund masquerading as the so called United Kingdom?

The SNP are done, British the lot of them.
Pity is so few have worked it out yet..

Yes 2014 Empire – sorry Commonweath – Games replete with UK money and Barrowman gaying up in the opening bizarre (sorry bazar) was meant to fool the hard of thinking that we still mattered in Engerlunds Empire (sorry Commonwealth)..

And all along auld Lizzie the lizard was too busy purring to crack a smile..

Ah days gone by eh?
It’ll be punting on the Thames and Beagling on the Downs next don’t you think Honest John??

Oh please do come..

@ Geri says: 17 September, 2024 at 10:27 pm

Out with colonisers & in will be the ex colonised, India, South Africa, the global south & Scotland will be amongst them at some stage as an independent nation again

Classic stuff, Geri.

Rational readers are invited to check out this link:

link to en.wikipedia.org

Scroll down and ponder over the names in India and South Africa. Wonder how they got there, eh? (Fun fact, having spent time in Jamaica, making some effort to visit some of the “Scottish” places there, I’ve often pondered on the behaviour of our colonising, enslaving, Scottish ancestors, and the pathetic efforts of their in-denial descendants to pretend it was the English wot done it).

You’re excused from the rational readers group, Geri. Get yourself along to your local butcher’s and have a stare in the window. Bound to be an entrancing tray of mince in there.

Meanwhile back in Scotland this is happening

link to tinyurl.com

Labour losing support in Scotland after winter fuel payment row

Scotland conned again.

If I remember correctly during the IndyRef2014 ‘Better Together’ said if we voted YES we would loose the heating allowance.

I think we all know about Scottish Labour and the SNP. No need for any more info.

Along with Salvo what we don’t know much about is Reform UK.

This would leave a clear but unstable unionist majority in the parliament with a high degree of uncertainty about Reform’s demands or behaviour.

“Meanwhile, all calculations about what might happen at that election could be upset if Reform can maintain the popularity they are beginning to develop north of the border.

Initially I thought Reform UK were making sense re ‘Gender Ideology’ but in the end they were just the same as all the other parties.

Lets talk about Scotish politics.

Who will you vote for in the Holyrood election?

I’m back to thinking ‘why bother’

Why bother? It’s not as if anybody is going to do anything about it. All we can do is threaten to vote for someone else who we know won’t do anything about it.
Irvine Welsh

Last election I tactically voted Labour to get rid of Tommy Shepherd in the Holyrood election (whenever that might be) I could be persuaded to vote if it meant getting rid of Angus Robertson.

A parasite always looks for its next host.

Speaking of parasites, I see BoJo is making an arse of himself again on the international stage. Apparently U can be the new Mafia at the EU. They’re excellent warriors & could be the EUs next enforcers to wee countries to do as they’re telt & pay up & as an additional bonus, it’d save the Yanks a few $billion too.

Doncha just love how word salad just spews from his mouth as he desperately scans the room for someone to agree with the contents of his head? *Silence* LOL!

Someone give him a free holiday ffs. Preferably somewhere far,far away.

Well – ten years have past since Salmond tried to rid us of our English governments yolk – with indy in mind – we are now in a worse position than we were back then – Sturgeon the Judas having done a tremendous amount of damage – not just to the cause, but to Scotland as well.

I used wonder just how much shit Scots could take – before they stood-up and said enough is enough – with regards to political corruption in Scotland, and England’s government treating us like a colony – I’ve come to the conclusion that Scots can, and will take whatever amount of shite, that oor ain corrupt parliament/judiciary/COPFS can give us – as well as the shite that English governments foist upon us – such as the WASPI Women and the Pension Age Rise – not to mention a plethora of other acts such as stealing our assets.

If Scots are not prepared to rise up – and take back what is rightly theirs, and their children’s, and grandchildren’s then thing swill only get worse – its a simple as that.