The world's most-read Scottish politics website

Wings Over Scotland


The Straight Debates

Posted on March 15, 2012 by

The media and blogosphere is awash with anguished, hand-wringing pleas for the independence debate to be conducted in a mature, reasoned and intelligent way over the next couple of years, but which do very little to bring that situation about. Yet it's a vital goal, because the way we're going whoever wins the referendum will find themselves living in a bitterly divided Scotland torn apart by years of vicious fighting.

Looking to the mainstream media is hopeless, because it's simply not set up for adult discussion. Politicians are crammed into tiny amounts of airtime which encourage nothing but vacant point-scoring soundbites – prepared in advance, often repeated robotically, and on no account to be deflected by anything the interviewer might have actually asked. (Though in fairness, on his night the BBC's Gordon Brewer can be as tenacious an inquisitor as these islands have seen.)

The online arena is no better, overwhelmingly inhabited by partisan sites – including this one – many of which also censor large swathes of dissenting opinion behind cowardly moderation policies. (Which we don't – only a contributor's first comment is moderated, as an anti-spam measure.) It's almost unheard of for opposing sides to undertake any sort of above-the-line dialogue.

So we're going to have a go.

The Straight Debates is an idea we've been mulling for a while. It's a tightly-structured discussion format which attempts to get round the issues mentioned above and hopefully produce some light rather than just heat. It's a format that, within the constraints of linear time, we're happy to engage in with anyone – from any party or none – who has something to say that conflicts with our own views. (That doesn't necessarily exclude supporters of independence.) We encourage others to adopt the format too. It works like this:

1. You need two people at a time. More than that could theoretically work, but it'd probably get pretty messy and prohibitively long.

2. Participant A opens with a question. Participant B must give a direct answer to that question as their opening sentence – valid responses are "Yes", "No", "Don't know" and "Don't care". They can then expand on that answer to whatever degree they choose.

(The only exception to the rule is that the question may instead take the form of a list of options, of which Participant B must either select one or answer "None of the above", before continuing as previously.)

3. Participant A may now offer a follow-up, to which Participant B gets a second reply, which is the final word.

4. The positions now reverse, with Participant B putting a question to Participant A, and steps 2 and 3 are repeated.

5. The number of questions is up to the participants, but either two or three each seems like a sensible number, depending on the length of answers.

6. The completed debate must be reproduced in full, and not be edited in any way – except for formatting and to correct typos – unless both parties expressly agree in advance to any changes. (For example, if someone wants to slightly rephrase a passage for easier reading, without changing its meaning.)

And that's it. But it's easier to show than to tell, so later today we'll be airing our first, but hopefully not last, attempt. Stay tuned.

4 to “The Straight Debates”

  1. Bobby McPherson says:

    Genius! I lookforward to the debate perhaps if successful and I every reason to feel confident that it will be, it may catch on elsewhere…. Good luck

    Reply
  2. steven luby says:

    This sounds good,encouraging to see sense bouncing in at last !!

    Reply
  3. Janos says:

    What's sad is that whilst this makes perfect sense, the day 90% of Westminster politicians subscribe to such a logical and sensible model of debate is the day that planet earth becomes united in peace and prosperity.  As in not for another few thousand years at least …

    Reply
  4. Shodan says:

    It's a grand idea. Your opinions on most the alternatives out there are much the same as my own. It's like panning for gold at a played out source.

    Reply


Comment - please read this page for comment rules. HTML tags like <i> and <b> are permitted. Use paragraph breaks in long comments. DO NOT SIGN YOUR COMMENTS, either with a name or a slogan. If your comment does not appear immediately, DO NOT REPOST IT. Ignore these rules and I WILL KILL YOU WITH HAMMERS.


  • About

    Wings Over Scotland is a thing that exists.

    Stats: 6,777 Posts, 1,220,084 Comments

  • Recent Posts

  • Archives

  • Categories

  • Tags

  • Recent Comments

    • Southernbystander on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “You’d get terrible indigestionJun 17, 09:05
    • diabloandco on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Add on Hunterston and it’s well documented leaks and the several ‘wee’ accidents at Faslane and Coulport, also well documented…Jun 17, 08:53
    • Captain Caveman on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “@YL Ah, more badly written, entirely irrelevant, incoherent, senseless nonsense from the “3am Crew”. Mate, I’d rather be a “Captain…Jun 17, 08:26
    • sam on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Shit lovers.Gulpin, ganch, scrunt or hellion. The Public Accounts Committee produced a report on Sellafield. The Irish Times carried a…Jun 17, 08:25
    • Hatey McHateface on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Some light, diversionary reading for all Wingers planning on enjoying a leisurely breakfast. Honestly. Some people. What are they like!…Jun 17, 08:06
    • Hatey McHateface on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “I believe that all over Scotland, and particularly in certain geographic areas, such as Grampian, granite-built houses are too radioactive…Jun 17, 07:43
    • Hatey McHateface on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “@ Aidan says: 17 June, 2025 at 5:36 am “So yes it is over” Naw! Never say die, Aidan. We…Jun 17, 07:33
    • robertkknight on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Seems to me James is spot on!Jun 17, 07:26
    • Young Lochinvar on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “As someone who has done active service for his country, which you continually deride here then it’s plain to say:…Jun 17, 05:39
    • Aidan on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “@Xaracen – yes there was an automatic rejection of the case of Scotland. JPTI also made submissions in respect of…Jun 17, 05:36
    • Young Lochinvar on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Yup He most certainly did, and in good faith too. And lived long enough to regret it. Surely you aren’t…Jun 17, 05:23
    • Young Lochinvar on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Bad enough that it may be so without you wishing it..Jun 17, 00:15
    • Young Lochinvar on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Fred Flintstone/ aka self professed captain of industry and failed Reform candidate; For someone who once boasted here that they…Jun 17, 00:10
    • Hatey McHateface on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Not at all intellectual dross, Dan. In fact, a very interesting post. I was unaware captured methane was being used…Jun 16, 23:22
    • Insider on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “MaryB, Sam, James ! You are the same person and I claim my £5 !……Jun 16, 23:21
    • Hatey McHateface on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “The “6 young mothers in Dundalk” were found to all be customers of the same dairy. The same milk float…Jun 16, 23:00
    • MaryB on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Radiation from Chernobyl allegedly affected west Cumbria. But in any case, it was a very convenient excuse for masking the…Jun 16, 22:59
    • Hatey McHateface on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Sure Bob. Just like at Chernobyl, there was a meltdown at Sellafield, rendering the surrounding area so dangerously radioactive that…Jun 16, 22:52
    • Insider on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Sam, You’re just making up stories again ! Aren’t you ?Jun 16, 22:46
    • robertkknight on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “They obviously heard the story about the Man from the Ministry who was checking for radioactive contamination in Cumbria after…Jun 16, 22:33
    • Hatey McHateface on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “You just missed NC. He flounced off in a monumental huff, last Thursday I think it was. He wanted us…Jun 16, 22:16
    • sam on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “There are many campaigners in Cumbria which is not in Ireland who have long wanted Sellafield closed down. They sought…Jun 16, 22:08
    • James on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Prick.Jun 16, 22:05
    • dasBlimp on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Very nice of you Sven. I’ve never really been away. I visit nearly every day for my daily chuckle from…Jun 16, 21:35
    • Hatey McHateface on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: ““Once we identify an existing UN member country willing to sponsor us” That’s great news. And there are two obvious…Jun 16, 21:27
    • Hatey McHateface on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: ““Ireland has compared Sellafield with Chernobyl” Nah. There are over 5 million people in Ireland. No way can they all…Jun 16, 21:18
    • Hatey McHateface on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Confused racks his brains to come up with the most offensive insult he can summon: Dew! Relax yoons. Indy is…Jun 16, 21:09
    • sam on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Exporting shite. Sellafield.National Audit Office. “Sellafield’s new leadership team has more to do to improve accountability for performance improvement within…Jun 16, 20:59
    • Xaracen on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “Well, it seems you are in a bind, Aidan. According to Copilot AI, “the Expert Legal Opinions submitted by JPTI…Jun 16, 20:39
    • robertkknight on Let’s Not Make Some Plans: “https://news.sky.com/story/council-apologises-after-headteachers-letter-to-parents-implied-union-flag-was-potentially-offensive-or-sectarian-13384636 #notmyflagJun 16, 20:17
  • A tall tale



↑ Top