Wings Over Scotland

They’re mixing us up with Wales. Easy to do if You’re in London…

Wait, wasn’t that “North Britain”?

YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED

Worth reading their analysis of each seat.

They’re looking at labour losing the majority of their seats and tories holding on to 8 out of their current 12.

From the totally unscientific perspective of ‘what are the voters feeling’ – my gut is telling me that they’re fed up, and the tories are a Brexshit Shambles. The SNP – for No Voters and potential converts to Yes – are seeming like the adults in the room, even if they are not their preferred choice.

Hey ho. Fingers crossed.

“Here be Dragons”

Didnt Boris describe us as a “ghetto”

Dictionary.com

a state ruled by a prince, usually a relatively small state or a state that falls within a larger state such as an empire.
the position or authority of a prince or chief ruler; sovereignty; supreme power.
the rule of a prince of a small or subordinate state.
the Principality, British. Wales.

Henry Hill on his Knee tugging his forelock Tory *****

An unbelievable display of ignorance, but that’s the type that have been getting the jobs in the public-domain for years now. The people who appoint them can’t see the problem, of course, just like the people who appointed them.

Well that’s us telt.

We should know our place and especially those in Principality House.

For the record, unlike Monaco, Liechtenstein and Andorra, Wales isn’t a principality. The reason is simple; the man who bears the title Prince of Wales (amongst many others) has no executive or legislative authority in the country, unlike the princes of the 3 micro-states named. He is not a member of the Senedd, he is outwith the democratic system. His title is purely a fiction, a political stunt by the Anglo-British establishment. As for one of his other titles, Prince and Great Steward of Scotland, we can pretty much say exactly the same thing!

Calling Wales a principality is about as accurate as saying that a Queen rules a Kingdom.

It’s so archaic, it’s positively prehistoric. Well, historic anyways.

Welcome to the 21st Century! Give them a chance, the Tories will be along to join us in the next few decades, with the probably exception of Rees-Mogg who’s kidnapped Doctor Who back to the 18th Century.

Boris is a man of our times.

Yeltsin that is.

Though frankly comparing BoJo to him is an insult to Yeltsin. RIP.

Yeltsin that is.

Confused?

You will be, you WILL be.

@callmedave
There’s still time for the SNP to get over 50% and send Westminster a clear message about Chicken Boris and his Tory yolk of a party.

And it’s scrambled oiks for tea.

I know it is good to know what your enemas are thinking but I stupidly viewed that conhome page and now feel that my eyes are burning

Watched dialatory politics and don’t know who was the worst ,
Nadhim Zahawi DESPERATELY trying to convince people that the tories have not thrown the dup under a bus
The Scots cringer ayesha azerika who knows hundreds and thousands of Scots voters who have changed their minds and will vote against independence , 1 of the bbc’s go to for Scotland too wee ,too poor , too stupid
A momentum spokesperson who believes everything magic grandpa says
And a telegraph reporter ( I think ) with bools in her mooth who also thinks Scotland is shite and the tories will save the world

“Beyond the embarrassing clanger, though, the article is an interesting analysis of the key marginal seats in Scotland next week, which is to say nearly all of them.”

Which in my opinion is all the more reason not to mention independence in seats where voters will vote SNP in the hope of stopping Brexit even though that’s very unlikely, but are undecided on independence.

The woke bridge will undoubtedly do some damage, however highlighting them and it, (As you must) will only do more damage to the SNP via discontented voters at a crucial time.

A principality. Is that where the Paedophile Prince and his deviant Uber lush family come to spend their holidays?

Mr Hill has one of those smug faces you really, really, really want to ######

@ Iain MacLachlan – I’m still getting tweets – you can read his twitter account from the link at the top right panel. Check on his latest tweets and you can also check on your list of who you are following. Twitter does “deboost” people it disapproves of though.

Principality?? I thought Scotland was just referred to as Shite!
Man you can feel the love coming from the Imperial masters.
There must be an election coming.

Ah! I get it.

The Tories want to make Scotland a Principality with Prince Andrew as the Prince of Scotland.

That’s a rumour I’m just starting.

Pay attention to Willie there, folks. This guy is switched on.

The prospect of another hung parliament looms.
The SNP should not play westminster games.
WALK OUT…never to return.
Make the UK toast!

Maybe its not a clanger.

Mr Peffers tought us that the UK is a kingdom united from two separate sovereign kingdoms. The Kingdom of Scotland and the Kingdom of England.

NOT NOW!! The tollies have changed the rules.

Its what they do!!!

I know I know, but read this and thought is this the things to come to Scotland. link to globalresearch.ca,

@Welsh Sion
You should realise that Wales hasn’t been a principality since …

… when exactly, I forget?

🙂

dadsarmy @ 5.59pm

If you discount Glyn Dwr, our last native Prince of Wales, Dafydd ap Gruffudd was killed on the orders of Edward I in 1283.

The method of execution:

“He became the first prominent person in recorded history to have been hanged, drawn and quartered, preceded by a number of minor knights earlier in the thirteenth century. Dafydd was dragged through the streets of Shrewsbury attached to a horse’s tail then hanged alive, revived, then disembowelled and his entrails burned before him for “his sacrilege in committing his crimes in the week of Christ’s passion”, and then his body cut into four-quarters “for plotting the king’s death”.”

Neil Mackenzie. I worked in the Glasgow office of a national company in the 70s. A buyer from Wimpey Construction based at their head office in Hammersmith was trying to place an order with me for delivery to Glasgow and had to admit he wasn’t sure about the delivery address as he didn’t “know much about the provinces”. Some things never change!!

@Gary45%

Unfortunately I don’t know how he is.

I assume he is lurking and keeping the Faith.

@Roughian. That famous acronym We Import More Paddies Every Year.

Not PC now.

How and where is Mr Peffers? I too was wondering and hope he’s OK. Can you give us a wee wave Mr P?

I thought the Old Etonians referred to that place north of Emperor Hadrian’s Wall as Jockistan.

This can be verified by means of a quick phone call to the No.10 Duty Press Officer.

@TJenny

Met you long ago at the first WoS night out at The Counting House, Glasgow.

The one with the mysterious fire evacuation !!.

Glad you are still contributing!

Anyone else having trouble getting on to Carltonjock ?? Just tried my usual saved link, to be told,

“caltonjock.wordpress.com doesn’t exist”

In her resignation letter, the former Labour MSP for two terms and health minister said there was “little more” she could do to make the governance and accountability of policing work effectively.
Independent observers commented that her resignation and criticism of the way the national police force is scrutinised and held to account could be construed as a political grenade thrown into Scottish politics just before the December 2019, General Election

The vice-chairman of the SPA, David Crichton, who will lead the SPA until a new appointment is made did not support the assertions of Prof Deacon. He stated:

“I and our team believe that the system of governance and accountability for policing in Scotland that was envisaged by the founding legislation is a sound one and works effectively. While we respect Susan Deacon’s right to resign from her post our collective focus will be on working together with our dedicated staff team to build on recent progress, deliver the actions and improvements already identified, and redouble the SPA’s focus on the issues of greatest importance to policing and the public.”

In Parliament, the three stooges, sensing blood, piled into the First Minister
Scottish Labour said the resignation “raises serious questions” about the SPA’s ability to oversee Police Scotland”.

The Scottish Conservatives described the SPA as “an organisation in crisis”.
Wee Willie Winkie Rennie said the police was “in crisis once again” and claimed there was a “toxic mix of chaos and complacency”.

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon rejected opposition claims and said, “The police are not in crisis and I think it does a disservice to police officers around our country who are working so hard to keep us safe to say so. The SPA will continue with the improvements which were being made to governance and accountability”.

Justice Secretary Humza Yousaf said there had been “significant improvement across many facets of the police service in Scotland.

Adding, “As Ms Deacon, herself acknowledges, our police service is in a much stronger place now than prior to her appointment”.

She certainly knows just when to raise her profile gaining maximum right-wing media coverage but the words of the vice-chairman of the CPA hold more potency. But a dig into her past is revealing since it exposes the incompetence of the Labour Party and herself at the time they held power over Scots.

link to gscott123.wordpress.com

@Welsh Sion
Memory a bit hazy, am I right in saying that Dafydd ap Gruffudd was the one who successfully waged guerilla warfare on Edward, arguably inventing guerilla warfare, but lost it when he took the battle into Edward’s preferred ground – the open not the hills?

We were lucky to be even called a Principality by the Tories. Welcome to not North Britain but North England.

Some info from a comment in Scot goes pop:

‘xxxx’ Who has posted since early days and has an interest in the polls and polling stats.

UK MORI Scots sub-sample:

50% SNP
22% Con
12% Lab
12% Lib
2% Brx

Hope that’s on the money. 🙂

I assumed the last article was going to be the last one before the GE.

Hope the SNP wins every seat.

@callmedave
“Hope that’s on the money.”

I doubt it.

I can’t see the LibDem vote being that high, they’ll move to the SNP 🙂

@mike cassidy
That’s the reason for the Gordon candidate on the last thread. Push Indy a bit down the list, and it’ll encourage Labour and LibDems to vote SNP against the Tories AND Brexit, even though they’ll know Indy is on the cards, it won’t be in their face.

After all, a vote for the LibDems with Jo Swinson wanting to be a Minister in BoJo’s Government and not really caring about the EU, IS a vote for the Tories.

Vote LibDem, get Tory

‘Principality’ is deliberately used to provoke a reaction. The best reaction is to vote SNP.

just watched Corbyn v Blojob

maybe just me…..anyone here Scotland mentioned?

Doesn’t Welsh Sion’s description of what Edward I did to bring the life of Dafydd ap Gruffudd to such a horrific end in 1283 sounds so very familiar to us. If it doesn’t, it should. Didn’t Edward do just the same thing to William Wallace, a little more than 20 years later, on 23rd August 1305?

Nice chap, that Edward I. Don’t you think?

And so consistent …

And who, in our own day, is fit to lift his mantle, and become his true successor? Do I see a Boris rising from the swamp? Do we now have a PM, and indeed a ‘Minister of the Union’, who is belatedly positioning himself to complete Edward’s long-thwarted project?

Once and for all, so to speak … ?

Is the electorate down south really so hell bent on electing – Idi Amin style – ‘The Last King of England’ as PM? It seems so … Do they really want a Puerile Maniac for PM? Or, if China is a more appropriate analogy, is it Boris J’s destiny to become ‘The Last Emperor of the UK’?

If so, it won’t be the ‘end of an auld sang’ this time round. But, rather, the ultimate collapse of a very old illusion. One carefully built up over many centuries on a firm foundation of perpetual lies, deception, violence, dishonesty. double-dealing … and still more lies. Lie upon lie …

But even the lies have now reached such a crescendo that they are running out of steam. As Boris huffs and puffs his way around, perpetually moving from one blatant inconsistency and self-contradiction to the next, he gets less convincing by the minute. It can’t be long before he sinks in the slime of his own unremitting untruthfulness …

Yet … Don’t worry, Boris old chap!

No one in Scotland or Wales is ever going to hang, draw and quarter you. We just haven’t got anyone sufficiently uncivilised to do that for you.

We’ll even let you go (just so long as you DO go, and leave us in peace).

Indeed, even if you insist on continuing to dig your own ditch, we’ll save you from it (that ditch) … and from yourself as well. And we’ll put it to good use (that same ditch) instead.

In fact, we’ll bury your project in it – and Edward’s too. Once and for all. It will do nicely for that purpose. And we’ll do it for always: in such a way that the wretched project will never ever rise up from the dead again.

So, be consoled, Boris. All that hard work you have put into digging that ditch of yours will not have been in vain. It will have served the most excellent of purposes … Laying to its final resting place the ghost of England’s illusory Imperial Majesty. And, in the process, setting Scotland free. To be fully herself again.

Sounds like a win-win situation to me … And, at long last, a just end for the honest causes of Dafydd ap Gruffudd and William Wallace, and so many others too.

Hasten the day …

Ask most people about Zionism and they will say “that’s the Jews”, but while this is the impression the Rothschild networks in politics and the media have sought very successfully to “sell” as “common knowledge”, it is not true.
It represents only a minority of them and many others who are not Jewish.
Rothschild Zionism in its public expression is a political ideology based on a homeland for Jewish people in Palestine and a belief that the Jews are God’s ‘chosen race’ with a God-given right to the ‘promised land’ of Israel.
They also believe that the real borders of Israel must encompass what is now Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank still officially owned by the Palestinians, plus Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Egypt and Jordan, or, as Genesis puts it: “… from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates”.
That’s the public expression of Zionism, but at its inner core, it is a secret society created and controlled by the House of Rothschild.

They have sought to sell the ‘Zionism-means-all-Jewish-people’ lie so that they can condemn as ‘anti-Semites’ and ‘racists’ anyone who exposes the truth about Rothschild Zionism and its agents in government, banking, business, media, military, etc.
This is why, (with the exception of one) politicians and political commentators decline to make any negative comments about Israel

link to gscott123.wordpress.com

As the Conservatives have effectively been in power in the UK since 2008, is this twat saying his own Party in the past 11 years couldn’t even managed to find a bloody gear! (although arguably with their austerity agenda, you could say they did find reverse…)

link to twitter.com

And what is this Britain he talks of…where’s Bob Peffers when you need him.

Hi Dan at 10:39 pm.

You typed,
“And what is this Britain he talks of…”

I must put on my pedantic hat here, possessing a Higher English. That should read as,
And what is this Britain of which he talks…

Ignore me. It’s late on a Friday evening and I have been reacquainting myself with Southern Comfort, made in the EU for a company in Walton on Thames. So much for “original”, as it says on the front label.

Still projecting?

Next Thursday a vote for the SNP is a vote for Scotland, anything else is basically accepting being a colony controlled by parties financed by another country.

There are some issues I am unhappy with currently but we must give them the opportunity to deliver independence . If it’s not delivered is it the SNP fault or the people of Scotland being too craven to take the initiative?

@ Ian Brotherhood

I’m pleased to say I’ve never given a single penny to Mike Small or Bella Caledonia. His lack of self-awareness is astonishing (not really) and he has, of course, completely misunderstood the self-ID issue.

@wull,

Edward I expelled all the jews from England in 1290,
confiscating their property and annuling all debs owed to the jews,

this was to help finance his many bloody wars and also was a way to keep his heavily indebted barons on his side,

link to en.wikipedia.org

his father Henry III issued the Statute of Jewry in which
Article Nine commanded that “every Jew wear his badge conspicuously on his breast”

link to en.wikipedia.org

other countries over the years copied this English model to finance their wars.

anti semetism

You are at liberty to pedant and quaff away at your elixir, as and when you see fit BDtt. lol
I’m just a thick loon who performs best with a spanner in my paw. I’m still proud of the fact I failed my English yet passed my French.
Plus it’s a relatively big day for a Sagi like me, and I’m celebrating with some of my pickled beetroot and a few Guinness in an attempt to corrupt my stool sample! TMI?

Hope to be getting back to projector project once this darn election is oot o’ the way.

Capella …take a jump you ignorant oaf
You use this a Scottish independence website to peddal your gender ID opinions

You know what ?

We want Scottish independence
That it’s the subject

Go to some other more appropriate discussion forum for gender ID discussion

I’m sick of seeing that subject raised here it’s competing with the more important isssue of Scottish independence
Hang your head in shame

Brian doonthetoon or Brian DOWNthetoon or Brian DOONthetown…

All correct in their own way…depends what part of lochee you are from

Mike Small. Small in every way which is why he’ll never have the ear of most indy supporters.

OT its Pisa time again, and of course SNP baad again.

A good example of just how badly Scotland is served by our media need look no further than today’s headlines.

A different picture is painted for those who are interested on Macalbasite.com

Worth a read.

Dan…8.27pm

I agree Dan…
When I said Scotland is a great place to live I meant that in the future
I agree with the things you say
It’s absolutely shocking unjust a sin that so many of our people in Scotland live a meagre life

I’m law abiding but I tell you it crosses my mind regularly to go after these selfish people that control the media and the politicians that inflict such poor living conditions and incomes on my fellow countrymen
I’m boiling inside
I want revenge as well as independence
I control my anger , but it’s hard

I hate bullies
I hate those weaklings that suck up to power in the presence of injustice
I want to put my shoulder to the door

Scottish independence is a fight
If you don’t accept that you will lose

Fro, I meant.

reading this thread and the posts these last few days has been very entertaining and cathartic; its like a bunch of toddlers had a fight in the sandpit, threw toys at each other, started screaming and then had a good cry (- now for a better sleep) …

– and no jews or trannies were hurt in this production; we are nice people, really, and just don’t like people messing with our independence

– this is timely, worth a read

link to gilad.online

I read that Bella article just posted above – I thought it was MARVELLOUS – absolutely the best thing I’ve read today. The most delicious comedy is of the unintended variety.

I think almost everyone is at their best when they just let rip – tell us what you really think, Mike! I think Mike is Gerry Hassan’s mildly-tarded younger brother.

Just realised that the Rev is close to a full house in Identity Politics Character Assassination Bingo – we have had
– homophobia, tick
– transphobia, tick tick tick
– anti-semitism ?????
he still needs a racism, then he’s done, you are now -officially- “literally hitler” and can be hounded off the internet.

@HYUFD
Yes, that’s great isn’t it? SNP gaining 9 seats and Chicken Liar BoJo’s Tories losing 4.

Seats projection: SNP 44 (+9), Conservatives 9 (-4), Liberal Democrats 4 (n/c), Labour 2 (-5)

But the Mori subsample is even better:

Seats projection: SNP 52 (+17), Conservatives 2 (-11), Liberal Democrats 3 (-1), Labour 2 (-5)

Wouldn’t that be great, eh!

But I’ll bet you’d be even more excited if the SNP vote went up more. the LibDem went down and of course the lying cowardly Tories who support a leader who’s too chicken even to stand up in front of Andrew Neil, went down even more, say the Tories down another 2% and LibDems down 4%, you’d only get 1 Labour, 1 LibDem, and 1 BoJo loving Tory.

And of course another 1% off the Tories, and there’s be not one single popor hating, children poverty inducing, befroom tax loving, Tory MP in Scotland! Again! Imagine that!

Wouldn’t that be absolutely top notch old chap?

Ian Brotherhood – ah, wee Mike Small, desperate to get on the bandwagon against Stu and against women’s rights in the hope of hoovering up some of the WOS readers (and their donations) who disagree with us. He’ll be looking for a wee gold star from the Wokerati, too.

Always thought Bella was up its own fundament, nothing’s changed. Wouldn’t give them a bean. Still give to WOS though if Stu asks.

Sorry don’t know how to type an umlaut.

Terry callachan @ 11.25pm , Capella has as much right as anyone here to express her opinion , her concerns mirrored by many other people , my relatives and friends of both sexes included , have as much right to be heard and expressed

This subject that you obviously consider boring is as important to females and their relatives as independence is to you , so just who are you to tell people what to post or decide the importance of their contribution
As many females and males have applauded and thanked Stu for bringing this issue and its impact on female safe spaces to the fore I would suggest you do some research and educate yourself on the reasons why people are angry at the SNP’S stance rather than attempt to bully people into silence

And before you respond that the SNP have paused the issue for further consultation ask yourself WHY the minister S A Somerville made the announcement at a pride march that the GRA bill WILL be going forward , it is disingenuous or duplicitous to suggest that a consultation is taking place when you have already made up your mind to ignore the outcome

BTW I am a 68 year old male and FULLY support my wife , daughter and all females rights to safe spaces

Scot Finlayson @ 11.06 pm. You are absolutely correct. Edward I did exactly that. Ourselves and the Welsh were not his only targets.

And you could say that he – Edward Longshanks – was the first king of England since the Conquest of 1066 to see himself as a full-blooded Englishman. Besides going after lands like those of the Scots and Welsh to he definitely had no claim, since they were definitely ‘not his’ (as the Scottish Pleadings of 1301 said), he still fought hard to keep and even extend his ‘possessions’ in France. They did not call him ‘the covetous king’ for nothing.

Yet he always did so first and foremost as the King of England. As such, even though there are signs of it existing before him – and in that sense there was nothing new about it – he epitomised ‘the English project’ in a way and to an extent that no previous English monarch had ever done, pushing it to an extreme from which it has never properly recovered.

When Brexit eventually causes the misery that it foretells, it will bring England to her knees, and that whole English project tumbling down in total ruin – dust and ashes – once and for all. And even if it will be horrible to behold at the time, it will ultimately do England good. Returning her to some semblance of sanity and normality, and even to reality, after all these long centuries of seemingly successful but ultimately self-destructive delusions of grandeur.

Self-ID based on an illusion does finally come unstuck. No matter how strong the illusion, or how old and revered it may be, reality (or plain old nature) eventually strikes back. How long will it take for this whole crumbling edifice of English self-grandeur to crash out definitively, and finally hit the dust? Not long, I suppose. I give it ten years … The Brexit Monster will gobble it all up in no time …

Someone could do a fine cartoon of Boris the Brexit Monster devouring away at the whole English sandwich, even as Scotland and Wales have already escaped and sailed far away from his bared fangs and gnashing teeth.

Dadsarmy The SNP polling 6% below 2015 levels is nothing to grow about and the Tories holding most of their Scottish seats.

Wull Wales voted for Brexit just like England

HYUD

If Back Door Boris gets 44% he will wibble delightedly about mandates.

If the SNP did get 50% I have little doubt that our local Tories will revert to their “one party state” and “it is a cult” memes. Drop a couple of percent from 50% and it is “Oh Noes!!! it is all over for the SNP”. Subtle it is not.

I will raise a wee glass on the 13th if we get 44% and 44 seats and think to myself “game on”.

Dr.Whitford is a fine MP. a cut well above some , who merely seek publicity

link to commonspace.scot