Wings Over Scotland

The pussy cat should maybe have been in a cage
But well done Chris!

Thank you for putting our aghastness into a picture. Love it.

Sums up these cnuts very well.

Love it!

Hamish receiving some hateful feline persecution because of his beliefs.
Hot on the heals of the Hate Monster badges, another marketing opportunity opens for Dangerous Extremist regalia.
Dangerous Extremist fashion accoutrements could incorporate different tartan / other colour backgrounds to help identify which clan / tribe / faction / militia the wearer belongs to.

I’m making a ‘Sovereign Extremist’ badge.

@ Southernbystander: Chris Cairns has a site and sells his books of cartoons – and he used to do mugs as well, perhaps still does.

Shauny Boy has done a brilliant video piece on the breakup of the Bute House agreement.

In the wider context, a very apt cartoon commentary in this particular week.

“Dangerous Extremist” is simply a catch all term for anyone and everyone who strays a single iota from The Official Narrative (TON) or dares to question, criticise, or challenge whatever that narrative is on any matter.

The term has lots of other similar bastard siblings – like “Anti-Semite”; “TERF” – “Saddam/Putin/Xi/Iran/Hamas/Whichever ‘Official Enemy’ from anywhere outside the collective West is applicable at any given moment in the self indulgent purity spiral infinite hate fest that operates 24/7/365 for our bought and paid for political and media class.

Both of which fall into Upton Sinclair’s well known quote: “It is difficult (ie impossible) to get someone to understand something when their salary depends on them not understanding it.”

And, as discussed here, such terms have intended consequences….

link to rokfin.com

….which are systemically designed to shut off not just any debate or discussion contrary to whatever The Official Narrative (TON) is on any given matter but any contrary thought.

An example of which is discussed here:

link to medium.com

Taster:

“There is a movement within some American and Ukrainian agencies, such as DHS, to list what they call “info terrorism” as a crime. In other words, if you have any opinions which are contrary to official narratives, you would be considered a “terrorist” and therefore subject to the same laws as actual terrorists who hijack airplanes, plant bombs at marathons or blow up buildings. Your words and thoughts could get you tortured or even executed if this Orwellian plan is put into action, because you would literally be considered a “terrorist” just for not subscribing to the approved and sanctioned groupthink.”

The minority of the planet which is the Collective West is becoming a more dangerous place every day. More like a ‘jungle’ than a ‘garden’ – to use EU Eurocrat Josep Borrell’s terms.

Innocent indeed.

Those lunatics who would project their insane and irrational hatred onto others; others who are blameless and undeserving of their twisted accusations are, in their blind and incoherent lunacy, oblivious to their own dangerous extremism.

Yet again Chris paints a thousand words in a picture – and at the same time delivers a potent point in favour of Scotland’s liberation from oppression.

What a worm Sunak is. Really slimy little turd.

Very dangerous game this talentless wanker is playing.

Be careful what you wish for Rishi, it might just come true.

“Do you know who we are?”

Another valid question. By May 2026 Sunak will be long gone.

The wee baldy bloke (I’ve already forgot his name) will have been consigned to history’s dustbin too.

BTW, does the back of his heid really look as if his “brains” have liquified and settled at the top of his neck?

As a medical symptom, that could explain a lot.

“Dangerous extremists” That’s the kind of desperate, divisive language you might expect from the political-wing of any jaded, metropolitan-elite in crisis.

All the more galling since those politicians who claim to want independence are too gutless to fight back against such Britnat extremism. They have no genuine desire for independence. They are in effect just as much unionists as Sunak and the other Britnat scum merchants.

Pro independence voters have no-one to follow, no party to vote for. They might as well abstain from voting at the next Westminster election. Show contempt for the union and all unionists by delivering the lowest possible turnout.

Xaracen says:.

I’m making a ‘Sovereign Extremist’ badge.

Put me down for one. I’ll swap you for my ‘Colony Scotland’ badge

Aye Chris, well done,

The third reich in action, from finger pointing to a raised open palm is not a big distance, ID badges anyone?
Separated , sectioned and sanctioned to a Scottish ghetto,

They didn’t see it coming the last time either

Fantastic cartoon. We have walked the whole circle, where extreme left meets extreme right and they merge to become the exact same shite.

The political spectrum is not even a continuous, it is simply the same rubbish sold as different brands to create the illusion of a choice. Just like the north branches of Scotland, labour and libdems have a different name to con the voters into thinking they are autonomous from the England parties. It is all about conning and deceiving the voters and the Scottish people, isn’t it?

I am sure I am not the only one who is bored to tears and sick to her back teeth of this nonsense and the repetitive platitudes and psychological blackmailing dished out by politicians whose only goal is to feather their own nests while their is country pillaged and broken into bits under their watch. It is the same propaganda over and over and over again. Gosh, I am sick of it.

A few years back we had that labour idiot coming from London to patronise us by calling independence supporters “racists”. Then we had that other labour idiot saying that nationalists had to be exterminated. A while back we had that other crown tool Gordon Brown churning his hyperbolic propaganda and talking about “extreme independence”. Now we got Sunak delivering on behalf of his handlers some laughable speech trying to like independence supporters to “extremists”. Do any of these idiots do irony at all?

Delivering that speech, talking about “extreme independence”, calling Scottish nationalist racists or openly saying they had to be exterminated is as extreme as you can get, so they can all fuck right off with their extreme unionism.

The only extremism here is that of the entity all those idiots work for and that is forcing Scotland to remain in this toxic union against its will for the sake of continuing to steal Scotland’s resources from the Scottish people and to sell their country bit by bit through that other byproduct con of extreme unionism which is the green “free”ports.

I have not watched TV in a very, very, very long time. It seems I didn’t miss a thing. I watched the most recent question time on youtube because Mr Salmond was in it, but my goodness it is the same shite being regurgitated over and over again.

The “de rigour” planted questions of independence from the audience continue in the same boring format they were a decade ago. It is so obvious they have been planted, because anybody who has been living in Scotland for the last 10 years and had their eyes open, knows for a fact that the SNP has not lifted a fcking finger to progress independence, so, frankly, to claim they only think in independence comes across as the most laughable claim and that they are using the same old worn out bone thrown to the dog time and time again.

Goodness, is Flynn the best they got as future leader of the SNP? The man was awful. No clear answers, all evasiveness, all deflection, all waffle. He came across as another mass produced politician with nothing new to offer.

Then along came the same old bone borrowed from tories with regards to the NHS: “the NHS is getting the highest level of funding ever”. Well, duh! that will be because the prices of everything keep increasing just as the amount of private business sucking on the teat of the NHS keep increasing. Just how stupid does Flynn think the people of Scotland are?

The question no politician has the balls to answer because no reporter has the balls to ask is how the privatisation of the Scotland’s NHS bit by bit is chewing up that funding and as the privatisation increases, how does that impact on the real funding the NHS has to deliver services.

If you have to feed profits to private companies through the NHS then that funding is not being used efficiently, is it? That stands to the obvious. If you increase privatisation, you are increasing the amount of profits you have to give away through the NHS, draining the funding pot even more.

You could increase the funding by 100% but if you continue to increase privatisation of the NHS, that funding is simply redirected to profit private companies rather than being used to deliver an efficient services.

So the claim that the NHS is receiving record funding is simply a con, just like the old adage that “the NHS will always remain free at the point of use” is also a con. It is a lie. A person may not have to pay for the service at the point of receiving it, but taxpayers have been paying through the roof throughout their NI contributions for the service because a large chunk of that payment has been going to to pay for the profits of all those private companies being sustained through the NHS.

And let’s not start with how much of those funds have been redirected to create all that tier of red tape jobs for “equality”, “gender nonsense” etc, etc. The only thing this has done is to drain the pot more, leaving even less money to cover the actual services.

The other question all the crown minions sitting in HOlyrood and in Westminster should be asked is “When is the evident extreme unionism that Scotland has been forced into from 2014 going to be addressed and stopped”?

When is the focus going to be moved from Scottish nationalism, which is a natural thing, to the extremism of “British nationalism”, which has been artificially created and artificially maintained through active and forceful suppression of democracy, and more importantly, when is the focus of attention going to be placed on the entity that has been forcing Scotland to remain in this union since 8 May 2015?

Nice one Chris, listening to Sunak, Jack and Lord Robertson recently the unionist mask slipped even further and they hinted at the dire plans they have for Scotland if a unionist party comes out top in the 2026 Holyrood elections.

I fear they will further clamp down on marches and public speeches with independence in mind, just as the West has done with Pal—estin–an demos and marches all across Europe.

Me too Dorothy!

I would like all the badges in one.

The hate monster with the caption ‘Vile Dangerous Extremist Cybernat’

Seriously is calling people Dangerous Extremists not a hate crime.

Time to get Sunak reported to the Sex Shop, Mushroom farm, Rape Crisis centre are whatever Hate Crime reporting centre is closest to you.

Mia

Well said.

Republicofscotland

Absolutely. This is how these eejits kick off. The drip, drip desensitising of a ppl until they’re described as no longer human & need exterminating off the face of the earth as they’re a threat.

Scotland should remove itself immediately from Westminster for those comments. I won’t hold my breath tho. The eejits we sent there for independence are more interested in their own bank balance as Sunaks predessors are also guilty as charged for cranking up the hostility. Fcks sakes, they even stand mealy mouthed in parliament like eejits to a good beating.

By remaining there, with a mandate in their pocket, they’re only treating Scotland with contempt too. Get them all out at the next election. Spoil yer paper if there isn’t an independent indy candidate or one who vows never to attend.

Republicofscotland@11.12
“listening to Sunak, Jack and Lord Robertson recently”
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The Clan Donnachaidh Museum at Bruar on the A9, (by Blair Atholl), had on display until recently a glass stand honoring Lord George Robertson. It featured a photo portrait in ceremonial regalia, but most strikingly a framed calligraphic original (?) of the following commendation from George Bush. Remembering the histrionic pitch of George Robertson’s lobbying against Scottish devolution and independence, it is the words “freedom”, “democracy“ and “liberty” which irk me most:

« THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Awards this PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM
to The Rt. Hon. LORD ROBERTSON OF PORT ELLEN

« With vision and Leadership, George Robertson has helped transform NATO to meet the challenges of a new century. As the 10th Secretary General of NATO, he has distinquished himself as a passionate spokesman for freedom, an advocate for democracy, and a true friend of the United States. Leading NATO through its historic enlargement, he was instrumental in its decision to send aircraft to patrol American skies after September 11, 2001, the first time NATO has activated its founding principle of collective defense. The United States honors this statesman for his dedicated Service and for his unique contributions to the advancement of peace and liberty around the world.

The White House
Washington DC
November 12, 2003

Signed George Bush. »

We have followed our believe that there is no point in voting to further for the devolved government to continue as a Westminster Colonial Administration over Scotland and we have not registered to vote for any of the unionist parties in the devolved rolled down political administration from Westminster,

The Scottish people, the people in Scotland, if the do not want to end up exterminated and deleted they must be aware they cannot survive as a nation under a Colonial administration,
And should refuse to take part in voting for it to be so,

@ Sarah, thanks!

Lots of unhappy, bitter individuals on Wings decrying our current political system and suggesting the people should not vote at any future elections! I am sure that will work!!

I have given the matter some thought and together with a few others, we are going to form a new Political Party in Scotland. A suitable name for said Party was initially difficult to find but, in a flash of inspiration, it will be called The Disciples of Billy.

For a nominal sum of £1,000 you can apply to join and be a founder member. However a rigorous vetting process will be pursued. Not only will you receive a bi monthly newsletter from Mr Carlin, on his in depth knowledge and insider take on world events but you be able to attend his monthly seminars, free of charge. Ibrox, Celtic Park and Murrayfield are willing to host the events. Founder member status will only be available to a certain few. Those with mental health issues will go to the head of the queue. Unfortunately, whilst suitably qualified, the contributors to the comments section on Wings, every fucking day, posting the same tired shite need not apply as rejection often offends. Sorry Che, RoS. Geri, Baird, Northcode and several others.

A secondary membership will be available for a paltry £500. You will receive the newsletters but will have to pay to hear the Great Man at his monthly seminars.

This is limited time offer only and those interested should register their interest on here initially and I will advise Bank details for your membership fees.

Billy would have loved to have posted another of his revelations today but he has several meetings lined up with Mr Biden, The Pope, and that nice misunderstood gentleman from Ru$$ia. Later today he is expecting to solve the crisis in Palestine. Tomorrow he will end World poverty and find a cure for cancer.

Our team are ready to take your orders.

This will be very unpopular but it has to be read and understood, Peter A. Bell explains it better than me so take a look.

link to peterabell.scot

A mediocre meritocracy, being a standard feature in colonial governance, constantly needs to invent its own fallacies in order to continue to divide and manipulate the people with its mystifying policies. The manufactured Ferries Crisis is another case in point (see from 5 mins in video):

link to oisf.org

RoS, why do you think it will be unpopular?

Bell makes a distinction between the UK government and Scottish government that is quite difficult to substantiate when you look at major issues over the last few years…

Thus, as Sturgeon was touring the country in her “STOP BREXIT” bus, her Government was essentially paving the way for Brexit, when Covid came along she completely surrendered to London policy (even the ‘herd immunity’ mass suicide pact), and, of course, Sturgeon not only did nothing to force the issue on indyref2, she went on the record saying the only route to independence was through a Section 30 (at the exact same time as the UK Government told us they would block the Section 30 route).

I could add a multitude of other examples, including various important facets of UK foreign policy, but I think the point is made already; the role of ScotGov under and since Sturgeon has been to implement and administer UK government policy; examples of the Scottish Government opposing it in anything but rhetorical terms are in very short supply. We can expect the same on the proposed nuclear power plants.

Another shortcoming of Bell’s analysis, though, a shortcoming that is all too common on the pro-independence side, is the failure to address issues surrounding ownership of Scottish resources. It’s quite disingenuous and lazy to talk about the UK Government stealing our resources when we all know there’s a lot more to it than that.

In short, if we achieved independence tomorrow, all of the most valued resources of the country (land, oil, wind, etc. etc., etc.) would remain in the same hands so that the people of Scotland would not necessarily benefit in any material way at all.

I disagree with that. I disagree with the arrangement that puts the resources of a country into the hands of big business without consent, just as I disagree with pensioners in an energy rich country sitting hungry in houses they can’t afford to heat. None of Scotlands biggest problems necessarily disappear with independence.

If the independence is to be anything other than a sort of hobby for anoraks, it needs to unify all these things and make a coherent argument for national liberation — not just liberation from the UK political union (a subject that bores most of us to tears nowadays) but liberation from the neoliberal free-for-all they created here too; it’s a classic “open door” policy that basically gifts our national resources to any Tom, Dick, and Harry that shows an interest (Trump, Gupta, Standard Oil, etc., etc…).

@ Northcode

It makes perfect sense if you want to intentionally paint a picture of Scotland not being capable of delivering competence in various matters, whilst at the same time handing a lot of taxpayers’ money to a certain group of folk.
The ferries are just one example in engineering and procurement. Another example is the legal arena with malicious prosecution relating to Rangers.

link to bbc.co.uk

Looking at who and what benefits in any particular situation, I’m minded to think the Rangers malicious prosecution was actually just a long con being played out.

Deposit Return Scheme is another.

There doesn’t seem to be any austerity when it comes to blowing huge amounts of taxpayers’ money on certain things.

More on Sunak’s speech.

“Speaking at an event in London organised by the Policy Exchange think tank, Sunak claimed that “an axis of authoritarian states” were attempting to undermine British values.

In a passage under the heading “The dangers”, Sunak listed Russia, Iran, North Korea, antisemitism, “gender activists”, and finally “Scottish nationalism” as posing threats to the UK.

“The dangers that threaten our country are real,” he said.

“There’s an increasing number of authoritarian states like Russia, Iran, North Korea and China working together to undermine us and our values.

“War has returned to Europe, with our Nato allies warning that if Pu**tin succeeds in Uk**raine, they might be next.”

However, the Prime Minister also said that homegrown cultural disputes were also a threat to the UK’s “history and identity” – including Scottish nationalism.

He said: “People are abusing our liberal democratic values of freedom of speech, the right to protest, to intimidate, threaten and assault others, to sing antisemitic chants on our streets and our university campuses, and to weaponize the evils of antisemitism or anti-Muslim hatred, in a divisive ideological attempt to set Britain against Britain.

“And from gender activists hijacking children’s sex education, to cancel culture, vocal and aggressive fringe groups are trying to impose their views on the rest of us.

“They’re trying to make it morally unacceptable to believe something different and undermine people’s confidence and pride in our own history and identity.

“Scottish nationalists are even trying to tear our United Kingdom apart”.

He added that “more will change in the next five years than the last 30” and claimed “the next few years will be some of the most dangerous yet the most transformational that our country has ever known”.
The National.

(My bold.)

This is the third time I’ve tried to post this

“Speaking at an event in London organised by the Policy Exchange think tank, Sunak claimed that “an axis of authoritarian states” were attempting to undermine British values.

In a passage under the heading “The dangers”, Sunak listed Ru**ssia, Ir**an, North Ko**rea, anti**semitism, “gender activists”, and finally “Scottish nationalism” as posing threats to the UK.

“The dangers that threaten our country are real,” he said.

“There’s an increasing number of authoritarian states like Ru**ssia, Ir**an, North Ko**rea and Chi**na working together to undermine us and our values.

“War has returned to Europe, with our Nato allies warning that if Pu**tin succeeds in Uk**raine, they might be next.”

However, the Prime Minister also said that homegrown cultural disputes were also a threat to the UK’s “history and identity” – including Scottish nationalism.

He said: “People are abusing our liberal democratic values of freedom of speech, the right to protest, to intimidate, threaten and assault others, to sing anti**semitic chants on our streets and our university campuses, and to weaponize the evils of antisemitism or anti-Muslim hatred, in a divisive ideological attempt to set Britain against Britain.

“And from gender activists hijacking children’s se**x education, to cancel culture, vocal and aggressive fringe groups are trying to impose their views on the rest of us.

“They’re trying to make it morally unacceptable to believe something different and undermine people’s confidence and pride in our own history and identity.

“Scottish nationalists are even trying to tear our United Kingdom apart”.

He added that “more will change in the next five years than the last 30” and claimed “the next few years will be some of the most dangerous yet the most transformational that our country has ever known”.
The National.

(My bold.)

Here you go George

link to youtube.com

A recording of his speech

link to gov.uk

A transcript of his speech.

The Silver Fox Hot Takes. The full story. The Lesley Roberts Story. A must watch.

Get Dr John Campbell on the phone.

Corporate homicide in the Scottish NHS. Mass murder on orders from opengrupenfhurer Nicola Sturgeon. Jean Freeman.

Set the truth free.

DNACPR – corporate homicide in the Scottish NHS. The Lesley Roberts story.

Get her on Wings Over Scotland. The £200 million cover up of Oromorph and Midazolam.

A £200 million cover up. They are lying on the covid inquiry website saying Leslie Roberts doesn’t want to speak.

They’ve gone into her private group. Gained access and extricated her from the covid inquiry.

It would destroy the Scottish Government. And Westminster. The establishment are working through her private socials to pull Lesley Roberts from the inquiry.

It’s a disgrace brothers and sisters.

Set the truth free!

Cheers aLurker

These are interesting links.

I’m thinking we might be spending too much time BTL here on Wings fannying about talking about the franchise and basically saying the the same thing over and over and over again.

Dan calls it the Badger syndrome.

George Ferguson
Ignored
says:
18 May, 2024 at 4:15 pm

Sunak says I didn’t say that. And this is where I rely on Stu. What did he say? That needs to he investigated.

I don’t know what he said. I haven’t found the speech but this is
how Alex Salmond reacted to Rishi Sunak’s speech.

link to youtube.com

It’s outrageous!

Hatuey.

Unpopular because of this.

“The choice is NOT between two sets of devolutionism. The choice is between nominal Scottish nationalism and explicit British nationalism.

This.

We cannot afford to let the British parties retake the Scottish Parliament. And you may as well start now getting accustomed to the fact that in order to prevent this we may be obliged to vote SNP.

And this.

Still we find ourselves now in the position of having to vote for the lesser of two-evils as the saying goes, and it does make some sort of Kafkaesque sense to vote for the SNP to keep the unionists out, because they will do far more damage to Scotland than the SNP.”

“And from gender activists hijacking children’s se**x education, to cancel culture, vocal and aggressive fringe groups are trying to impose their views on the rest of us.

“They’re trying to make it morally unacceptable to believe something different and undermine people’s confidence and pride in our own history and identity.”

Anyone would think Sunak wasn’t in charge of the UK. Or the Tories – those great bastions of ‘law & order’ couldn’t have stopped this bullshit entering schools, everyone’s workplace & the ladies loos.

Who is he trying tae fool with his bullshit? The think tank he was addressing probably came up with this shit in the first place.

Mr Kerevan will be know in the area due to his SNP stint.

“George Kerevan is to stand for the Alba Party at the next General Election, it has been announced. He previously served as the SNP MP for East Lothian between 2015 and 2017 before leaving the party in 2021 to join Alba. The East Lothian seat is currently held by Alba’s Kenny MacAskill, but he will be the candidate for Alloa and Grangemouth at the next Westminster election.”

George Ferguson

“Rishi Sunak has no electoral legitimacy. Liz Truss had no electoral legitimacy. Humas Yousaf had no electoral legitimacy and John Swinney has no electoral legitimacy. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.”

Are suggesting that’s okay then?
This is the stuff of an authoritarian regime.

“British values”

Hark at the democracy deniers about values. He needs to call an election. Why hasn’t he? What’s keeping him? Swinney too, btw. One of the ones he’s castigating in his speech has just been re elected with 80% support.

“Sunak claimed that “an axis of authoritarian states” were attempting to undermine British values.”

He’s lying & projecting.

Stop meddling in stuff that is none of his concern & they won’t meddle in his. It’d help if he stopped sending weapons too & told Cameron to STFU about attacking “inside” R. A clear act of war. Cameron should go bunker down in trident if he wants to act like a Ned.

Wow – Has Eva left the Alba party?

Sarah

Thanks. I’ve just googled. Apparently a falling out with Yvonne over TRAs but the article also mentions infighting over internal elections so it could be a mix of both..

Blimey, both women will be a great loss to Alba. Denise worked her socks off touring & organising the wee book events & campaigning all over the place as well as keeping abreast of things within the party & chapping doors & Eva too at organising women’s evenings & appearances on Prism.

Sounds to me like the same thing that happened to Posie Parker? (Supposed support suddenly switches to the dark side for no apparent reason)

I’ve not been on X for ages so completely missed this bombshell of them leaving. Wow. I’m in shock. That’s a blow..

Geri
Ignored
says:

I’ve not been on X for ages so completely missed this bombshell of them leaving. Wow. I’m in shock. That’s a blow.

It’s bad enough not knowing what day of the week it is but without Stu’s Twitter I wouldn’t have a clue what’s going on out there in the big bad world.

I would like to see BTL on Wings being a bit more like Twitter.

Good article about the ‘legacy’ of Nicola Sturgeon

link to archive.is

Seems a bit strange thought that the thrust of the article was about how much she brought division to Scottish politics yet the article becomes divisive itself with the below despite it being obvious that she never had any intention of plan to hold a second referendum:

Sturgeon spent nine years in power deepening division with endless demands that the UK Government green-light a second referendum despite a clear majority wanting no such thing.

A hundred posts and counting, many promoting some of the wackiest opinions you will find anywhere, but sharing one common theme:

We’re a fascist, authoritarian hellhole where only the approved opinions of the WM government remain uncensored.

Just imagine for one moment there was any truth in that. What would that make Rev Stu and Wings?

The only authoritarian hellhole I see is HR, where the HCA remains an entirely home-grown, “Made In Scotland” abortion, brought to us courtesy of the SNP’s self-anointed, pretendy leader.

Oh well, perhaps wee Scotland can still teach the rest of the world a thing or two about cognitive dissonance. Where else but here can you still read doubts about whether the world’s foremost shithole, NK, is really as bad as all that?
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TURABDIN
Ignored
says:
19 May, 2024 at 9:00 am

The Scottish National Movement is up a creek, with a boatload of parvenu(e)s, without an engine and no one has a chart.
If this is not a set-up situation then i have blond hair and blue eyes.
However out of such absurd situations……

You talk in riddles!

I have no idea if you do are do not have blonde hair & blue eyes the only thing you have told us is that you are a 15 year old boy from Iraq.

That was a couple of years ago so you might be 17 by now.

Are you trying to tell us now that you are not guilty of being WHITE! and that we should have known that because you told us you were from Iraq?

Sectarianism was a driver for No, imo.

The stupid couldn’t see past YES as some sort of IRA terrorist outfit & they’ve been at it ever since.

Tories also came back from the dead in Scotland for the same reason. Rooth the mooth, baroness part time tank commander cashing in on the sectarian vote.

& Then there’s Thatchers Britain. Selfish greed barstewards who think they shouldn’t pay for the services they use incase a poor person benefits too.

Then there’s the biggest dysfunctional, anti social, benefit scrounging, racist bigots no one will ever meet – the Royals.
Which leads neatly back to sectarianism, the masons & the orange order who can’t move past the 1600s..

The Liberal Arts might sound boring, but they aren’t:

“Utilitarian or servile arts enable one to be a servant of another person, of the state, of a corporation, or of a business and to earn a living.

The liberal arts, in contrast, teach one how to live; they train the faculties and bring them to perfection; they enable a person to rise above his material environment to live an intellectual, a rational, and therefore a free life in gaining truth.”

Sister Miriam Joseph

Scotland’s educators should be teaching Scots children the Trivium, the liberal arts of logic, grammar, and rhetoric, instead of…whatever it is they teach them.

“In true liberal (arts) education… the essential activity of the student is to relate the facts learned into a unified, organic whole, to assimilate them as the rose assimilates food from the soil and increases in size, vitality, and beauty.”

The Trivium: The Liberal Arts of Logic, Grammar, and Rhetoric by Sister Miriam Joseph

I first came across the Trivium and the seven liberal arts many, many years ago. Back when Thoth and I would chill-out on the sunlit banks of the Nile, under the shade of gleaming gold-topped pyramids, having a laugh and drinking much wine.

I was so inspired I attempted to become a postulate in preparation for entering into a life of learning and faith within a cloistered nunnery as a bride of Christ, and to follow in the footsteps of Gertrude the Great.

However, being a man, that path was blocked to me…and so I embarked on a road of my own creation and set off towards the shining light of…well, enlightenment.

I might sprinkle some ‘food’ on the fertile soil that is btl for all the beautiful roses out there bursting to bloom. Food in the form of a wee few comments on the liberal arts – the first three anyway.

There are four more arts which together form the Quadrivium, and the Quadrivium along with the Trivium give us the seven liberal arts. But we don’t need to bother about the Quadrivium for now.

Knowledge is power. Most importantly, power over your own mind.

“The only authoritarian hellhole I see is HR, where the HCA remains an entirely home-grown, “Made In Scotland” abortion, brought to us courtesy of the SNP’s self-anointed, pretendy leader.”

You never disappoint at hypocrisy.

BoJo introduced a new police & crime bill. WM pretendy PM added to it further. Posie Parker a case in point. English womens rights campaigner plagued & harassed by Police over hate crime complaints. Media arrested at protests. Jurnos accosted by police etc.

Take yer eyes & point them away fae Holyrood & see that this is a “made in Britain” abomination happening both sides of the border that Sturgeon happily played along with because she was their loyal servant. Even banning protests outside Holyrood.

Then cast yer eyes to Europe & to the US. Same thing. What a coincidence eh? Jeez, it’s almost as if this was a direct instruction from someone “Go forth & start some civil wars so we can start battering ppl & clamping down on ppl talking”

Maybe Inspector Rebus could investigate the mystery of missing Wings BTL discourse.
I want to know what was in the 64 posts that aren’t showing between.

Geri’s post at 1:12 am

link to wingsoverscotland.com373

And the next following post by Turbadin at 9:00 am

link to wingsoverscotland.com438

Geri
Ignored
says:
19 May, 2024 at 10:39 am

Sectarianism was a driver for No, imo.

It’s a cult and apparently they make up 30% of the Scottish electorate.

Cults are always difficult to deal with. The people of Stonehaven had the right idea!

Is it an indigenous Scottish cult? Yes according to Andy Ellis everything is Scottish. If you suggest otherwise you are a racist.

Are they ‘dangerous extremists?

I think they could be but not one Sunak would recognise as being a danger to British culture, identity & history.

TURABDIN
Ignored
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19 May, 2024 at 9:00 am

The Scottish National Movement is up a creek, with a boatload of parvenu(e)s, without an engine and no one has a chart.
If this is not a set-up situation then i have blond hair and blue eyes.
However out of such absurd situations……

The SNP is in a mess, but Scottish Independence seems quietly resolute. You are mistaken to think nobody has a chart, because there are several in existence. If it wasn’t for the contemptible SNP under Sturgeon, you’d already know a lot more about them.

Right now, the very last thing I want to see is a wretch like Swinney latching on to a robust “chart” towards Independence and fkg that up like they’ve fkd up everything else.

I am a lapsed member of ALBA, largely because they’ve allowed themselves to be seduced by the UK political system, when it’s the entire paradigm which needs to be re-set, with the removal of Holyrood and the Scotland Act from the equation.

Holyrood was there to be won for sovereign Scotland, but the corrupt regime under Sturgeon did a better wrecking job of that than all the spies in Whitehall.

Rather than saving Holyrood through reform, it’s my personal belief it would serve Scotland’s interests much better as a sacrificial lamb to be impeached out of existence, and the wreckage sent packing off to London like a proverbial fire-ship.

A few people here and there are already beginning to acknowledge the SNP is now an obstacle to be cleared before progress can be resumed. I readily subscribe to that opinion.

And while I remain a huge supporter of Alex Salmond, and his ALBA party was a flash of inspiration, he seems to be treading water. But in my opinion, Kenny MacAskill should not be contesting Eva Comrie in any Scotland United context.

Am I perplexed about it? A little maybe. But I’m so wearied by all of this crap. How many dacades are we planning to waste? When Scotland is ready, no rancid wee seat in Holyrood or Westminster will get in our way. Brace! Brace! Brace!

Seats in our first Sovereign Parliament, or interim Convention of the Estates, will command a higher premium, and the only people dawdling around Holyrood will be forlorn Unionists, disowned SNP Devolutionists and cleaning staff.

Is Independence in trouble? Not judging by the number of trolls and naysayers here on Wings. They’re the nervous ones.

Some would say that Scotland isn’t a nation but rather a region, just like Wales, England and NI. All four are proud regions and there’s nothing wrong with that.

“Some would say that Scotland isn’t a nation”

And if that were true those who would say that would be correct.

Bring us news not history Molesworth!

@ Andy

Soz if I picked up what you meant incorrectly. After submitting my post and re-reading what you said re. “no further participation in Westminster”, I see that could still mean participating in UK government elections, but not attending if seats were won.

@Dan 11.52am

I didn’t used to be in favour of abstentionism à la Sinn Féinn but have changed my mind more recently. I see no point in participating in the crypto-medieval mummery that is Westminster.

Our representatives there aren’t even prepared to do as the IPP used to do and cause procedural issues and disrupt procedures, so there is very little point in lending legitimacy to participation in a parliament that does not respect the right of the Scottish people to decide its own fate.

In my view the movement as a whole should be uniting around the principle of every election being plebiscitary by default, therefore in any election where 50% + 1 votes are cast for pro-independence parties, the British nationalists are on notice that we would regard that as de facto independence having been achieved.

The current problem is convincing the SNP to get on board with that concept. At the moment they patently aren’t, which is why they either have to be changed from within by their own membership (which given all we’ve seen seems highly unlikely) or defeated and ultimately replaced as a vehicle for independence. Again, that doesn’t appear to be something that will happen overnight.

Electing a majority of pro-indy MPs at Westminster needs to be twinned with gaining >50% of the vote and standing on an explicitly plebiscitary platform. The SNP are not going to do that. Until and unless all pro-indy parties co-operate and stand on a “Scotland United” slate, your plan won’t work. I don’t think it’s ever likely to work with the current SNP and Scottish Greens.

Hatey McHateface 10:33

You’ve been warned to keep off that topic but you persist.

I’ll put this into bullet points cause you’re as thick as shit.

*This is a proxy war by the US neo cons, ya absolute fud.
*Their actions were/are an existential threat in a place that was fck all to do with them.
*They just can’t stop pouring in weapons that reach further “to the last man standing” motto. Not their men, mind. Another country’s men are being slaughtered while their nation is being sold from under their feet to US disaster capitalists. No shit Sherlock. The puppet regime is profiting nicely.
*International treaties mean something. The ppl should have stuck to it & to the ticket they were elected on. Peace. They’ve also trashed their own constitution.
* They were offered a peace deal way back in 2022. Favourable terms. BoJo rejected it. (When the fck did he relocate there?) Now Cameron is wading in while poor Sunak cries into his cornflakes no likes them & someone may attack them with the well worn ‘it wisnae us’ *whistles*

Would Sunak allow troops from a hostile nation to set up operations in Ireland along it’s NI border & start fcking about with coups, troops & weapons?

No. It’d be a clear threat. So what problem do the Britnats have with someone else seeing it the exact same way?

I’m no fan but I do listen to both sides. You should try it.
That exceptionalism you have, along with the Americans, is a threat to everyone elses security & peace but they just can’t help themselves as they march on fcking everything up, everywhere, & flouting international laws to quench their colonial itch to rule the world. They rattled the wrong cage & a cage that has serious weapons (So much for deterrent eh?) Are you really so shocked the rest of the world has had enough of military threat, toothless international organisations completely captured by them, sanctions & war that they’ve decided to club together to restore some sort of natural order to knock theses permanent aggressive warmongers off their perch for good?

I’m glad yer coming round to indy. Palestine has 143 countries that agree it’s a sovereign state. That’s a majority. Why do those great bastions of freedom, liberty, democracy & western values persistently deny a democratic vote from achieving its democratic end?

Take yer time..

They’ll be in the courts for crimes against humanity & supplying/aiding the mass murder of civilians. Brilliant news that there’s no time limit on those charges. We’ll see if that’s also captured soon enough.

Your so full of shit & hypocrisy but unlucky for you & Sunak, no one is buying it..well, no one outside the propaganda channels you seem glued to…

Ends..

@Dan 12.06pm

No apology necessary: I could perhaps have been clearer. I’m totally unenthused about the Westminster elections. I don’t even know if I’ll bother voting, though I’ll probably just spoil my ballot if there’s no Alba candidate. I suppose that’s why I can’t get too excited about yet another rammy about splitting the vote WRT Comrie and MacAskill as it’s largely irrelevant unless there’s general agreement on a “Scotland United” platform, which the SNP just won’t countenance.

If the British nationalists continue to refuse to honour the 2014 Edinburgh Agreement for future referendums, the movement faces a choice. It must either change the rules of the game and force through a new devolutionary settlement enshrining the right of Holyrood to be the only and final arbiter of when and how often we hold referendums (don’t hold your breath!), or we accepot the referendum route is now a political cul-de-sac.

That being accepted, the quickest and easiest route to achieving independence is a majority in plebiscitary elections supported by all pro-independence parties, which means that it won’t matter if Alba, ISP and the rump SNP and Greens all hate each other as long as they’re all signed up to the plebiscitary concept.

Any parties that refuse to accept that concept should suffer the electoral consequences.

The first step on the path to enlightenment is possibly the most difficult for humans. And that first step is: do not hate.

Hate will hinder progression toward enlightenment far beyond…more than you know – so don’t. Hate is very, very bad for us.

And even if hatred seems a justifiable response to the unjustness that is rife in this world it won’t help, it will only make things worse.

So best to avoid anything with hate in it.

Our objective on the path to enlightenment is, in part, to raise ourselves above the perception of insult and ‘injury’. To be smarter. To be better. To be more.

Each of us have within us the power to be whatever we want to be. That be the second step to understand as we set off on our journey toward the light.

Hatey McHateface said;

“The only authoritarian hellhole I see is HR, where the HCA remains an entirely home-grown, “Made In Scotland” abortion, brought to us courtesy of the SNP’s self-anointed, pretendy leader.”

Your usual dis-framed blethers, Hatey!

The real authoritarian hellhole is Westminster’s House of Commons, where England’s MPs presume a formal authority over Scotland and her MPs that they simply do not possess. England’s establishment enforces a bogus presumption that the ten-fold greater numbers of England’s MPs actually equate to formal superior authority over Scotland by means of a flat voting system that treats all MPs as a single body, which thus leverages that ten-fold majority over Scotland’s MPs as if that actually meant something. It doesn’t! Even on normal democratic grounds it doesn’t!

The problem for Westminster and its English establishment is that there is literally no formal agreement that attests to that presumptuous arrangement in any of the three founding constitutional documents of the Union.

So, my question to you and the other the hard-line Unionist nutters infesting this site BTL;

Which clause, in which of the three formal constitutional documents that founded the Union, formally attests to the agreement of both Treaty Principals that all Union governance decisions in its Union parliament will employ a simple flat vote applied to both bodies of MPs together as if they were a single body, despite those two bodies formally representing two still-separate*, foreign sovereign kingdoms?

*
Yes, separate, despite the ludicrous English establishment pretence of unitarity. The border still determines the edges of English law versus Scottish law, the English constitution versus Scottish constitution, the English monarchical territorial rights versus the Scottish monarchical territorial rights, and above all, the writ of English sovereignty versus the writ of Scottish sovereignty.

Westminster’s so-called sovereignty is not entitled to transcend that border.

I see the bbc is making a big thing about celtic fans making a mess in glasgow

I do not recall them making a big issue of rangers fans, against police instructions, marching into town and rioting or the unionists mobs running around attacking anyone of colour after the referendum.

Funny how the bbc covered the nazis marching to the cenotaph in london and the peace marches elsewhere in london.

How they frame the news tells you more than what us in the news

Geri 12:21

I’ve been warned have I?

You’ve been educated then. Waste of time that was too.

There’s a common thread to your every post that intrigues.

I mean, there’s no way that you can believe your lies and magical wishful thinking to be true.

Yet you post it anyway.

Independence isn’t a zero-sum game. It’s not the case that if one country gets it first, no other country can.

It’s not a good look to be sitting behind your keyboard, endlessly greeting about poor, wee oppressed Scotland, taking time out only to castigate other nation’s freedom fighters who wouldn’t see the likes of you in their road.

Logic dictates, as a famous TV show character would say, that the liberation of the Scots from the Union is now inevitable, a foregone logical conclusion.

The credit for the ending of the centuries old union between Scotland and England must go to England.

Had it not been for the intransigence of the larger partner and its increasingly brazen poor treatment of the smaller the union might have continued indefinitely.

But the arrogance and unbending short-sighted nature of the larger partner is about to secure Scotland’s permanent withdrawal from the ‘partnership’ – just as that same nature has secured the independence of at least 80 of its former colonies.

France, by adopting a similar attitude, is doing the same for what remains of its former empire, too.

Perhaps, when they have nothing left but their own nations, England and France could form a union of their own.

I wonder how that would work out – with France being more than twice the size of its new partner.

Xaracen 1:30

Not up to your usual standard.

I’m not accepting that you believe Yousaf’s HCA originated in WM and was voted on us by English MPs.

The most authoritarian legislation affecting us all is intended to censor what we can and can’t say, and what we can and can’t write.

And it has “Made In Scotland” stamped all over it.

“shout insults from behind a bully then roll over and play wounded when anybody says ‘boo'”

Let’s accept you’ve accurately summarised the situation. How come then, we’re still as far from Indy as ever?

Is Scotland and the Scots so far gone we can’t even summon up a ‘boo’?

Ach, never mind. Go and hoover somewhere, make yourself look useful.

Don’t be shy about asking how it works.

North code

“Perhaps, when they have nothing left but their own nations, England and France could form a union of their own.

I wonder how that would work out – with France being more than twice the size of its new partner.”

LOL!

Arse! My mouse copy and pasting buttons are failing…

Pallet content.

link to wingsoverscotland.com

Geri 3:20

Asbestos knickers will protect you when you post lies that that, but they present dangers to your physical health too.

According to the lists of symptoms available online, there’s no risk to brain function though.

Strange.

Logically then, there has to be another factor in play.

Hatey McHateface said;

“Xaracen 1:30

The most authoritarian legislation affecting us all is intended to censor what we can and can’t say, and what we can and can’t write.”

Down to your usual standard, Hatey. You ignored my question altogether, and I said nothing at all about Yousaf’s HCA, let alone that I believed it originated in WM. Though I wouldn’t be in the least surprised if the Union’s England’s security services were deeply involved in it.

‘The most authoritarian legislation affecting us all is intended to’ and actively does deny Scotland from any meaningful say in its governance within the Union; a denial that never applies to England, and which isn’t remotely warranted by anything in the Treaty or Acts of Union.

Justify that to Scotland’s sovereign autochthones, and to the rest of the world!

Apologies to Hatuey.

I made a mistake mixing you up with Hatey further up. Sincere apologies.

Main needs to stick to one ID. Does he really believe he’s hiding? LOL

Yesterday I learned that ‘Jaffa Cakes were Irish. I never knew.

Is the Celtic Fans Cult Scottish or Irish?

Are they ‘Dangerous Extremists’ and a threat to British culture, British Identity and British History.

link to youtube.com

I think they might be the real deal.

On the subject of Irish Jaffa cakes and the various different snacks preferred by the different groups.

Do the Celtic guys like the Orange Jaffa cakes while the Rangers cult prefer the Tunnocks Tea cakes Empire Biscuits & the best British Shortbread.

What about Independence supporters what is our preferred snack?

Anything but Tunnocks Teacakes, Empire Biscuits & British Shortbread?

I do like the Rocky Road bites from Aldi.

@Xaracen 4:56

Good one. You managed to deny my claims about the HCA without mentioning it.

As you go on to say, you would still want to blame the HCA on the English though.

That’s clever. Tam o Shanter duly doffed.

Note I wrote “clever”, not credible, rational, believable or persuasive to the hinged.

BTW, it’s “autochthon”, plural “autochthons”. Best to get the details right before appealing to the rest of the world!

O/T

Got an SNP leaflet (Amy Callaghan) thru the door today, the word Independence did not appear anywhere on it !

Given that she only has a majority of 149 how does she expect to be re-elected ?

I doubt many will be shedding a tear for Raisi, the Butcher of Tehran who oversaw & personally sanctioned the executions of 5,000 people for anti regime protests, including teenagers.

Hopefully the landing was so hard his trip to hell will be shorter.

Andy Ellis.

First Fico now Raisi regardless that both have/might survive, the mad dogs at the Pentagon, Brussels and Westminster will need be on high alert for what goes around comes around.

Incidentally Salome Zourabichvili the president of Georgia roll in shooting down the Foreign Agents Bill is one of nominal, her pathetic gesture hasn’t got the clout to change it passing.

Zourabichvili is a woman after your own heart an arse licking Atlanticists.

Hatuey.

I’ve read some analysis that says Raisi is dead and that the search for him is staged to deliver the death of Raisi to the Iranian people gently as in delayed, the analysis also hints that the strike area is perfect for the perps to melt away after carrying out their mission.

We’ll see if that analysis bears any fruit or not.

Republicofscotland

Zourabichvili is lying that she voted against the bill as it would affect EU membership. They’ve disputed land so that’s their entry off the table until it’s resolved.
It’s a good bill. Everyone should know what foreign agents are in their parliament & wtf they’re really doing there.
How on earth would that hinder EU membership?

Murdering the Ir@nian president (and I have no doubt it was) is another wild Isr@eli provocation desperately trying to start WW3. They are so desperate it is unreal and desperate people do desperate things.

Ochone…it’s a wee shame for all the tankies that it turns out their hero the Butcher of Tehran died because the Republican Guards think it’s a good idea to fly helicopters in bad weather.

Whatever will they turn their faux outrage towards now?

I saw last night ordinary Iranians were expressing their sorrow at his death using fireworks. 🙂

@Alf Baird 7.52pm

Never fear Alf, if the usual suspects in here have their way our future will be bright in the service of our new overlords Uncle Vlad and Comrade Xi.

I’d be more concerned about operatives in their pay than those beholden to Westminster. Doubtless most of them will be in mourning for the Butcher of Tehran this morning, so we might get some peace from their usual tankie inanities. We can but hope.

Does not take long for Shlomo Kidkiller to pitch up with the predictable zi0nist talking points. It is almost like they are reading from the same piece of paper…

Hatey McHateface said;

“BTW, it’s “autochthon”, plural “autochthons”.”

Thank you, Hatey. That would have been the first useful and sensible thing you’ve said to me this year, except you got it wrong. Nevertheless I accept take it be an honest mistake. However, the rest of the comment preceding that ‘correction’ was unbelievably dishonest, even for you!

Northcode

Google remains my friend. Wiki is not being honest with you.

As for those once again peddling their jenoside nonsense, it’s an odd jenoside that could be stopped in its tracks any day of the week by the release of around 100 hostages (or their corpses).

It’s the cravens cowering in their tunnels behind the tens of thousands of their own dead women and kids that bear most responsibility for the death toll. That’s hardly a surprise, as maximising that death toll is a strategic aim of theirs. Always has been, and note this, always will.

That, and saving their own skins.

Undoubtedly there’s a strand of Indy support that finds this kind of behaviour admirable. That will be the same strand cheering on the Islamist nutjobs of Tehran while they grab lassies off the streets to kill them for being cheeky, and supply the RF with missiles to kill our women and kids on the streets of Eastern Europe.

Vote Indy to give these people a sniff of power over decent Scots?

Naw.