Wings Over Scotland

Have a good one Chris, hopefully the last in the UK

Wow, that’s a cracker. I blame the parents.

You just know there must be something not right about Little England, as the Tory bastard has had an unnaturally long gestation.

Euroscepticism in contemporary British politics: opposition to Europe in the British Conservative and Labour parties since 1945

Abstract

The following text is taken from the publisher’s website: “Anthony Forster argues that euroscepticism, in addition to being a political stance, displays the seeds of becoming a new faith. Through a detailed analysis of British post-war politics, he shows the development of a core set of beliefs, a history of persecution, displays of moral rectitude in opposing Europe and the power of scepticism to change existing beliefs. This challenging new history of euroscepticism will be a valuable resource for undergraduate students of politics and European studies.”

link to researchgate.net

A cracking “Toon” Chris.
I fear you are correct with the image, maybe Engerland taking the rest of Bwitain to war with some EU countries in the next 10 years, because they wont bend over to Boris and Co. War makes money, what do England produce apart from jam?
Only thing missing is hate and hate tattooed on the brats knuckles.
Scotland wake up.

Brexit represents the complete and utter repudiation of and surrender to several centuries of English foreign policy. This was to prevent, by all means possible, the uniting of the Continent against them.

It’s why Marlborough fought at Blenheim in the War of the Austrian Succession. It’s why Britain fought Napoleon and opened a new front in Spain under Arthur Wellesley, another man ennobled after generalship showing how much the powers that be valued what they were doing.

It’s why we went to war in August 1914 and 1939. Forget imperial ambition or fighting fascism it was to prevent the continent being united against us. It’s why Britain and the US staged the Normandy landings, because accepting the status quo was unthinkable.

It’s why the angst over French vetoes over our applications to join the EEC in the late ’60s and early ’70s. People forget that the UK was clamouring to be allowed in. Banging on the door. The Continent was being united without us, again.

Now with English insouciance over Brexit leading to iScotland Engliand is going even further back, to the time when France and Scotland combined and had England surrounded. When Edward massed his troops to come north the French would raid the Southern ports meaing he could not put forth his full strength against us having to leave troops and ships behind to guard those places.

And of course when Edwards and Henry’s went warring in France the Scottish king would raid the border, laying seige to northern English castles and ensuring again that England’s full strength could not be put into one field. These efforts ensured the independence of both France and Scotland.

Scotland even sent forces to fight the English in France. The Gendarmerie grew out of the King of France’s Scottish Guard.

I’m not suggesting that iScotland in the EU will behave the same way, except perhaps in business and diplomacy. The French remember the Auld Alliance and their veto against Les Rosbifs.

I predict that the effects of all this will lead rUK back into the EU, the only question is how long it will take and how many times France and Scotland will veto it, perhaps with the Irish as well. We will all want cast iron shackles put in the treaty preventing a second Brexit before we let them back in.

One baby Scotland will be throwing out with the Bathwater!

Congratulations Chris on another year packed with your wonderful skills.

Nice one Chris, bit chilling but.

Let’s hope it’s the last hogmanay in this toxic partnership.

The First Minister’s Independence Petition sits at 513,411 signatures.
Just creeping but 520,000 would be a nice number to hit Bojo with
When he tells Scotland to F*** Off and declare no appetite for it.

100,000 plus Marchers through Glasgow’s Streets on 10th January would be a nice indicator too.

AUOB Could you appoint someone to count the Marchers as we know the BBC and Police only
Have a blindfold and their fingers to use when they compile their Westminster funded guesstimate.

link to yes.scot

Morgatron at 0941am,

That is it in a nutshell, the English in general are politically thick. They swallow without question the utter rubbish pumped out at them from a mainly right wing mainstream media. They see the lying racist primer minister as a ‘lovable’ buffoon.

Sadly, I caught a bit of a radio programme with Jeremy Vine yesterday, where he played a classic example phone-in from 2019 of the stupidity inherent within England at the moment, with regards to brexit. A woman passionately stating that the EU will collapse without Britin and that ENGLAND (oh yes) was just a cash cow to the EU etc.. etc.. ‘they will be begging to do a deal’, and so on etc.. on and on she went, one falsehood after another. I thought she might start singing rule Britannia. Deluded in the extreme.

Pretty much the same as they told India, and Ireland, and parts of Africa, who all rejected London abuse. Pretty much like the rubbish they spout about Scotland and independence – ‘we’ll be begging to come back, and Scotland needs England’s money etc..etc..

The whole world can see the stupidity, it is only in England, where they simply cannot, or more likely, will not see.

Little England. Stupid is as stupid does. Time for Scotland to leave.

Oops Effijy, apologies, new year resolution, must wear glasses more.

Now it’s Brian Wilson CBE.

What does it stand for?

Celtic’s Britnat Eejit.

Poor England has never really gotten over loss of Empire.

Like Miss Faversham in “Great Expdctations” , she sits still in her robes of Empire, hoping one day to regain her rightful place in the world when the time is right.

It never wil! be of course, but she sits steadfastly oblivious to decay and ruin all around ,hoping for the miracle to occur.i

Another brilliant but frightening cartoon. Keep up the good work Chris. All the best to you for 2020.

Nice, let’s hope it is your last in the UK
Chris ?

Was on the AUOB entry on Wikipedia to get their new website address and noticed it says only 20,000 took part in the Edinburgh march in 2018. Seems like the page is written by someone hostile to AUOB.

Wales also voted to Leave the EU, not just England.

Let us also not forget 54% of Scots still voted for Unionist parties on December 12th despite Brexit and Boris won a UK wide majority on a manifesto commitment of no indyref2

Since we are coming out as a block shouldnt it be ‘little Britain’?

Loving the pure sodium chloride in the comments. At least the ‘thick’ English just fucking do it. Scots wring there hands, listen to the media and worry how many muslims and trannys might be affected if they express themselves fully while swallowing economic fear mongering.

I see the Fud and Joes Xmas leave is up

haha, I see a few have gotten under Joes thin skin

hey Joe – it’s ‘their’, not ‘there’, but we get the third party reference before you feeble attempt to correct yourself with ‘oor’ Nicola

Fanny

you’re about as Scottish as I am Jamaican.

Jfngw The highest award in France, the Legion of Honour, was created by Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte at the height of the French Empire and still exists despite the fact France now only has a few overseas territories left

Hey Joe, you regularly project that you have genius insight around all things economic.
That being the case could you perhaps proffer your explanation and enlighten us as to why Scotland, a country packed full with so many diverse assets and resources, should find itself so fiscally restricted in its abilities to fund services and develop new and maintain existing infrastructures?

I’m eagerly awaiting to learn your proposals on how we can improve on the current situation.
Afterall, if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate.

And talking of shitty sediment. A Big Low Five out to the selfish disgusting mucky fuckers that travel along the A1 from Edinburgh to Berwick who appear to have created a miles long art installation of discarded litter.
Well done on your concerted efforts to make the country you have a connection to look like a fucking shithole.

Joe, thank you for reinforcing so eloquently my comments regarding the thickness of the English electorate. Slanj ya fud.

HYFUD, please give we plebs the details of Boris’s wonderful deal.
Same goes for Joe.

It is commonly held that Indian independence was obtained by peaceable means, the Mahatma etc. This link suggests it was otherwise, that without the threats of revolt the process might have been forestalled.
link to theconversation.com
In Scotland we have a highly constitutionalist party guiding the process. Many within it have a dread of alarming the independence snowflakes with ‘ardent rhetoric’.
link to scotsman.com
We are at, or at the very least approaching, a watershed in Scottish politics. England and its alter ego the British state has a rightist, nationalist government with a perception of Scotland as a mere appurtenance. Squaring up to that with ‘softist’ options appears remarkably lacking in strategic lustre.

Robert Louis President Trump, PM Modi of India, President Bolsonaro of Brazil are amongst many fans of Boris amomgst world leaders around the world and he also gets on well with President Macron of France and PM Trudeau of Canada

Effijy Norway did not have Gordon Brown spending too much but of course in the 21st century and with the threat of global warming we are supposed to be moving away from fossil fuels and oil based economies anyway

Sandy Now the Commons has passed the Withdrawal Agreement the Boris Deal is simple, a Canada style FTA with the EU that also ensures the Good Friday Agreement is protected and no hard border with the Republic of Ireland in Northern Ireland

The latest PISA education rankings have the UK 14th out of 79 countries but with England doing better than Scotland and Westminster performing better than the less well performing SNP Government at Holyrood
link to bbc.co.uk

” the UK is the 5th largest economy in the world with falling income inequality and one of the lowest unemployment rates in Europe”

Ah yes citing the state broadcaster and the IFS really doesn’t bloster your case, repeating it doesn’t make it so. And nowhere in your link does it claim the UK is still the 5th largest economy.

However even this Britnat news rags experts can’t quite agree with you.

link to thetimes.co.uk

HYUFD: 2.20

Since when have little England’s top Billy Bunters slavishly followed anything that France does?

The idea that England has to have a pretendy ‘Empire’ just because France or any other nation does frankly isn’t worth the water in a Malt!

Col.Blimp@3.23pm.

Well said.

I don’t know about anyone else but, after all my arguing and campaigning about how the SNP are going wrong, I feel at least I now have a fair idea of what’s happening.

1. Brexit

2. SNP will complain about no being allowed to hold an indyref but accept that.

3.The SNP will seek another indyref mandate for Holyrood 2021, arguing if they win again, next time the pressure for indyref2 will be undeniable.

4. Now the Tories have a large majority, the SNP will be even more ineffectual than they’ve ever been, since Salmond’s resignation as FM in 2014,

Col. Blimp 1V @ 3:23

Whiskey!!!!!

There is no ‘e’ in Scotland. ?

Colin Alexander

Unless Bojo changes his mind soon the desire for an Indyref will be gone forever – There will be no need for one.

The Holyrood elections will be contested unambiguously between the pro-Independence and pro-Union factions.

The Conservative, Liberal and Labour parties will do themselves a lot of damage when deciding how to play their hands.

One can only hope that the SNP will put country ahead of Party.

And if they do – I am confident that I will not be paraphrasing the lyrics of “The Patriot Game” with my last few breaths.

link to youtube.com

Bill Cochrane says:

“Whiskey!!!!!…”

I copied and pasted it from a five-year-old youtube comment on a Frankie Boyle video…forgot to do the proof-reading bit.

News reporting that Colin Weir died last night. Mr Weir who won the lottery with his wife donated £1 million to the SNP and the independence cause. He also became the majority shareholder hin Partick Thistle FC.

Couldn’t but help see the cartoon as an image of a nation happily preparing to sacrifice millions of its people to the grim reaper.

The great war with its glorious dead the British just adore the blood letting of their young.

What greater rousing imperialism than the bits of a mangled soldier being brought back in a Union Jack draped coffin in full military pomp. And all commented on by the Beeb in sonorous plummy tones .

Ah yes, the sycthe and the happy youngster. Tis a fine symbol of Britishness.

@HYUFD
Acknowledge your propagandizing for the status quo but many in Scotland no longer live ‘in your retro box’. Certainly, I do not. Coming from a background with experience of British duplicity, the check list of how wonderful it is to be part of the status quo has little impact.
England needs to outgrow the imperialist past,sadly the Johnson victory makes that less likely. However, Scotland is in the process of so doing. Scots, or at least the many ‘brights’ amongst us, are looking forward with hope and that within the context of the realities of 21st century, not those of a romantic or mythologized ‘golden age’ past.

@ Col Blimp IV – that is one heroic post upthread. Should be printed out on a concertina style card. Thx for posting. I’vw copied and pasted for future reference.

link to wingsoverscotland.com

Robert J. Sutherland
That’s the power of Critical Theory for you. I’ve not looked at this stuff in almost thirty years, but knew that a bit of political anthropology would prove instructive. 😉

All the best for the new year.

@PeteWishart
We achieve independence by securing majority support for the proposition. It is the only way. When we secure that everything changes. Our job is to win it.
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pete is right

we have been waiting for this moment, many of us believe that brexit and a tory gov will push nos 2 yes

important dates

12th dec

the date nicola officially sends wm a s30 request

the date bojo officially refuses it

11th jan AUOB

31st jan, we leave the eu

31st dec 2020, the transition period ends

if pete is right, and i believe he is, we can only know if we have secured majority support if someone carries out a poll? stu?

if we were at 49% before bojo won the election, where are we now?

//indyposterboy.scot

Now I know what Robert the Bruce’s spider felt like!

OT I went on to Peter A Bell’s twatter account the other night and he and others are fair battering into Nicola and her withered stance , As he correctly stated it is not bozo who is answerable to us it is Nicola and time is rapidly running out for us to save ourselves

Some are even suggesting that he has Stu Campbellitis but he refutes that by saying that it has just taken him longer to become as outspoken

TBH IMO his criticism is warranted , news is Keith Brown will be leading the AUOB March on the 11th Jan and a massive turnout is requested , so where is our esteemed leader the one who is insisting ??? ( requesting ) independence going to be , will she be at the head of the march DEMANDING INDEPENDENCE or does she have a more important pride march or trans march to attend

This intransigence and failure to accept that plan A is a busted flush is making independence supporters look weak in the face of bozo and his corrupt parties demeaning refusal .

Where is the thrawn aggressive take no nonsense attitude that Scots are renowned for all over the world , and why are we being so complacent in the face of an aggressive self absorbed , bullying , threatening , thieving neighbouring country and its inhabitants , where is the in your face challenging , are we just MEEKLY going to accept being ripped out of the EU or is Nicola going to grow a pair and return ALL of our MPS home and TELL Bozo that the treaty of union is dissolved due to englands bullying and multiple breaches of the treaty

@ Col Blimp IV – thx 🙂

“Any thoughts on a minutes applause or silence for him on the 11th.”

Solidarity with someone who supported independence physically and financially, yeah I’d go along with that.

HYUFD

You said wales voted for brexit …but you failed to say that it was the English people living In Wales that turned the minority in favour of brexit into a majority

It was the same in the Scottish independence referendum 2014 the English people living in Scotland turned a majority in favour of Scottish independence into a minority

HYUFD

World leaders get on well with Boris …on camera…
World leaders get on well with all other leaders on camera
But so many of them have commented that BJ is a twerp

HYUFD

We are not moving away from fossil fuels at all
Fossil fuels will be used around the world long after you and I are no longer alive

Renewables are increasingly being used but they cannot replace fossil fuels and are unlikely to have the capacity to replace fossil fuels during the next three decades

Very good Chris although maybe the baby should also have a knuckle duster and be carrying a blade!

Twathater at 627pm,

I have to agree. As oeter A Bell points out, it is wholly undemocratic to forcibly remove Scotland from the EU against its clear democratically expressed wishes, but it is about to happen. Yet still, the FM bangs on about a democratic referendum.

Talk about fiddling while rome burns.

I think the anger at the SNP inaction, and bizarre desire not to push for independence, is grwoing by the hour. What are the SNP for, if all they do is procrastinate, whilst babbling on about a section 30 THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET.

It is nonsense. Absolute nonsense. The SNP have had clear mandate after mandate after mandate to start indyref.

However, I would argue their responsibility as the Scottish government is even greater. In my opinion, it is a complete dereliction of duty to simply sit and allow Scotland to be forcibly removed from the EU by England. If ever their was a time on history for firm action, it would be now.

As for pannicky pete wishart and his wishy washy nonsense about waiting. Seriously what is the wait for? Things cannot get any worse.

The time for action is now. Has the section 30 been requested? has it actually been refused? If so, what are the Scotgov’s next steps??? When? Jan 7th? Jan 8th? jan 10th? What is their timetable? Why is their no urgency?? Are they seriously going to just sit on their hands, whining and whining and whining, while one of the biggest lying English tory bas****s in history p*sses all over the claim of right and Scottish sovereignty???

That is how it looks. The SNP – the all talk and no action party. Vote SNP, and they’ll occasionally talk about independence or something.

If brexit proceeds and NS still has NOT acted, then she has got to go. Call the freaking referendum FIRST, then invite London to discuss a section 30, FFS. Take the initiative.

schrodingers cat @ 18:00,

Oh FFS, you, Pete and the rest of the Prevaricators can do as many damn polls as you care to waste your (or our) precious money on, and it won’t make a blind bit of difference. That’s been obvious to anyone with the wit to see for some years now. Ordinary folk will only react when the question is put to them the one time when it really matters, ie. in an actual referendum with consequence.

All this business needs now is leadership, and from the front, not from someone in the rear, hiding in a cave and afraid to come out for fear of actually achieving something (and meanwhile convincing no-one else into the bargain).

This win is ours for the asking, but the battle will only be won when we actually take to the field of it.

Phantasies of the 21st Century

Ruth Davidson becoming First Minister
Original Rangers still exist
People still believing Uri Geller can bend spoons with his mind
Humans can change sex (I can only assume they also believe David Icke)
BBC is a unbiased media outlet

And unless we get our finger out then I may need to add the sovereign people of Scotland.
After all how can we be sovereign if another country can remove our EU citizenship.

“Seems like the page is written by someone hostile to AUOB.” H Scott says at 12:37 pm

Aye Wikipedia is anti Scottish Indy and ‘THEY’ are called Philip Cross.

The are a Neo-Liberal, Pro Western Intervention, Pro Israeli group.

link to craigmurray.org.uk

Re Mr Weir

Many thanks to the Weirs for all their support our humblest best wishes to the family.

A minutes silence would be a wonderful gesture on the 11th at the march. How about the march coming to a halt and being silent for a minute? Much more effective I think.

S30

It is not surprising that some are getting very impatient with the Scottish Government and its insistence that a S30 is the way forward. This is simply because it needs to both “be legal” and “seen to be legal” by the unionists and the international community.

Boris has few choices left.
a) No. A few options here.
link to businessforscotland.com

b) Yes.
c) Yes with conditions. See (a) above.
d) delay. See (a) above.

@Kangaroo 12:00Re Mr Weir
A minute’s silence would a wonderful gesture on the 11th at the march. How about the march coming to a halt and being silent for a minute?
Nice idea. I trust the march organisers read this.

This is a link to a FORWARD AS ONE video the group of Scots determined to legally challenge , possibly alongside the SNP SG , bozos refusal to agree to a sect 30 agreement

youtu.be/BcqPlFH96h4

What they say in this video is UNDENIABLE and failing a positive outcome by the SNP demands it is a road many of us feel is required to ascertain the effectiveness of our claim of right , there are many legal eagles who feel that the case would not be won but they also agree that it has never been challenged properly in law

Many of us feel that we are battering our heads against a brick wall and that we are merely going round in circles with wastemonster dictating and us reacting , a court challenge will give us and the world clarity as to whether we are an independent country and nation or we have been subsumed and are merely a region of greater engerland

I KNOW we are an independent country and nation but I want the world and some fearties to have a clear understanding of why we want to dissolve this fetid union and release ourselves from this undemocratic omnishambles

This is a link to the crowdfunder page for FORWARD AS ONE legal challenge and I would be obliged if any of our more knowledgeable members have information regarding the veracity of the organisation

link to crowdjustice.com

Dr Jim says:
29 December, 2019 at 1:17 am
I don’t know what everybody’s worried about…..

Claim of right, Scottish courts, International courts, the noise would be deafening as the world looks on and support for Independence goes through the roof as one part of the UK (Norn Ireland) gets a vote on its future but Scotland is denied the same rights…

I’m worried, worried and angry, because all of these issues could have been pressed hard at any juncture over the last 3 years but conspicuously haven’t been. Why, in God’s name leave so many issues outstanding and unresolved, when we might have had any number of Constitutional test cases resolved in our favour before now?

It is a fallacy and a folly to maintain it is only democracy which can extricate Scotland from the Union. It is NOT the only option, as many voices outside the SNP are asserting.

link to craigmurray.org.uk

The SNP is dithering on the horns of a dilemma that is all it’s own creation… a kind of Catch 22 situation… It won’t move on Independence until there is an emphatic majority evident in the polls, but no emphatic majority is going to happen without a concerted active campaign like 2013-14. The SNP is treading water, but hoping the currents around Brexit will carry us forward to Independence. What is making people particularly angry is the absence of any effort to swim.

It is now looking like Scotland has left it too late to avoid Brexit, and a narrative is trying to assert itself that it always had to be this way. For many of us, the lame sentiments and complacency of Pete Wishart are like a red rag to bull. If we do not manage to weaponise Brexit effectively, it will be a withering and lasting indictment of the SNP that we have squandered the absolutely perfect Constitutional storm which ought to have levered Scotland free of this damned Union. There will never, ever, be a better Constitutional stand-off than the impasse created by Sovereign Scotland voting to stay in Europe and Westminster resolved to forcing us out.

If we are Brexited, we will have squandered the biggest and widest open goal in the history of open goals, and all because the SNP was too prissy to consider any route to Independence besides their own linear notion of critical path democracy.

The lie is exposed, because Scotland’s anti-Brexit mandate already gives us an emphatic democratic pry bar to split the Union ON PURELY DEMOCRATIC grounds already, and the SNP has all but squandered that democratic mandate because it wants a better one. It doesn’t want just any old democratic mandate and constitutional stand-off, it wants a “specific” democratic mandate.

I repeat, we ALREADY HAVE the perfect Constitutional Storm. It has been blowing for three years, but the SNP are determined to pursue their own “democratic” Puritanism, even if it costs Scotland it’s place in Europe. WTF are they doing???

Worried? Yes. But more than worried, I am angry. If we are taken out of Europe, I will find it very hard indeed to forgive the SNP, and they can sing for my vote forever thereafter.

Never put your trust a fkg politician once they’re part of the Establishment. Scotland’s Constitution, the Declaration of Arbroath itself, made specific provision for ordinary Scots to rise up and depose leadership which sold Scotland down the river. You have to wonder if our parcel of rogues was a one-off …

Breeks at 536am,

Totally agree with every word. The election is over, so already we have wishy-washy Pete Wishart spouting his nonsense about waiting until the polls magically change by themselves, while the SNP do sweet f*** all to make the change happen. Will the SNP leader be at the march in Glasgow on Jan 11th? NOPE. That is the extent of her dedication to independence.

I agree, we already have a mandate, it is as clear as can be. Scots voted to remain in the EU, London wants to force Scotland out. THAT is the mandate. THAT is the consitutional crisis. That is the point Scotland asserts its consitutional rights and either unilaterally suspends or ends the union treaty with England.

I too am furious at the SNP and their endless backtracking, dithering and general lack of leadership. Some will say NS is ia great leader, but I would not, because when push comes to shove, she has spectacularly failed to chart a direction for Scotland WITHIN the EU. Instead, she seems to have just unilaterally decided to ‘just let brexit be done to Scotland’, and she has zero democratic mandate to do that.

The SNP rreally, really need to sniff the freaking coffee, and get to grips with the rising fury over brexit, and the SNP failing to do as they were mandated when elected.

Two years from now, Nicola Sturgeon will still be going on telly, asserting Scotland’s claim of right, then meekly still begging london to give permission. Meanwhile, Scotland’s parliament will be closed, and brexit done, with w new union agreement IMPOSED by LOndon – and why wouldn’t they? London has been allowed to literally p*ss all over Scotland, and all the SNP has done is whinge, while doing nothing.

As for Pete Wishart – sadly, he has become London’s man. Not sure why he is still in the SNP. Seems to like those green benches in London wayyy too much. Very much in the Westminster club. Lapping it up. Out of touch, totally, out of touch.

NOW is the time for action by the SNP leadership, not in a year’s time, or maybe sometime in he future, once the polls magically change by doing nothing, NOW.

Artyhetty says: at 6:07 am

“Is that really the case? Scumbags dumping their rubbish by the A1 in Scotland? That needs investigating and policed if so and I don’t think you were joking.”

I was certainly not joking about littering, as to me it highlights there is something fundamentally wrong in folk’s thinking if they believe in this day and age it acceptable behaviour to discard their waste in such a manner.
But rather than large amounts being flytipped, it looks more like an accumulation of numerous individual folk chucking their litter out of their cars over a protracted length of time.
I’ve spent considerable amounts of my time clearing roadsides of litter and flytipped rubbish so class myself as a bit of an expert on the subject.
The days spent carrying out the work give one the time to build a profile of those within the littering genre. I’ve yet to find a discarded houmous tub or muesli bar wrapper, but melt your heid sugar filled shite like energy drink tins are a standard feature on a pick.

In my experience the police will do nothing even if they are handed relevant information to chase matters up, so might as well remove the offense of littering from the list of crimes, along with driving off from the scene of an accident in a Citroen C4 Picasso in kyanos blue without reporting it, as that also seems to give one immunity from the law.
Oh, and while I’m here I’ll add BT / Openreach and their contractors dumping their industrial waste from rural broadband works down the roadside bankings. I see you and still have the pics, vid, and email chain to post on t’internet or hand to the press seeing as youse did fuck all about it.

Say something on the internet that hurts someone’s feelings and boom, you’re in trouble, dump tonnes of nasty rubbish on someone’s land, or damage someone’s property causing them financial loss, that’s nowt to worry about…

On that subject, is there any word on Wing’s twitter account suspension?

@Kangaroo 12:14

“…they would continue negotiating with rUK whilst simultaneoulsy making it clear that as Scotland…”

“rUK”? I think you’ll find it’s called the Kingdom of England.

The narrative from Westminster is that Scotland is seceeding from the UK. We aren’t, we’re ending a 300 years union. As Scotland, once again, becomes the Kingdom of Scotland. Then that “rump”, once again, becomes the Kingdom of England. Don’t do their job for them. Call it what it is.

I’m getting increasingly frustrated with all the entrail-reading by the usual suspects like Wishart as (what appears to be) a lame excuse to avoid exploiting the current unique and promising situation in favour of a never-available safety guarantee. Always waiting for that magical 60% to appear for free.

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understandable @rjs, we are all impatient. but i dont think pete wishart is saying anything controversial when he states “we must bring more scots along with us” this is self evident, support for yes in the polls was at 49% before the election, 45% snp during the election.

that isnt enough. however, i believe we may have passed the 50% mark in the polls in support of yes. this is a significant mile stone, the reason why i wascalling for a poll, stu? It will embolden the entire yes movement and weaken the unionist resolve . consistent polling of 54%+ for yes, outside the polling margins of error, will embolden us even further, including pete wishart. (we may even be already there !!)

i ask again, isnt anyone at least a tiny bit curious as to how yes is polling?

sort you out…. obvs.

I perhaps scare the gradualists, but if you don’t have a legally defensible identity, you don’t have a legal base from which to make successful claims to human and legal rights. Do you really feel safe in the hands of the Tories, now that you better understand the legal vulnerability of Scotland’s public. Without the protection of constitutional law. psychos in office can cause all sort of chaos and public harm. And we have a topper of an apparently psychotic English nationalist as PM.

Human Rights and Legal Identity:
Approaches to Combating Statelessness and Arbitrary Deprivation of Nationality
link to opensocietyfoundations.org

You have to struggle to see why I posted the document I did at 2:51pm. I was attempting to highlight the link between identity and legal rights, and thought it a better source. Sorry.

Human rights law and personal identity
link to researchgate.net