Wings Over Scotland

That would imply some form of conviction and honor in their policies

pfft.

They aren’t scrapping the legislation – it will still sit there forever doing nothing until it is either repealed or, more likely, a future Westminster Government lifts the section 35 order, meaning the bill will immediately become law.

So we need to keep up the pressure on Labour and Keir Starmer to promise that they won’t lift it if they get into power in the future.

I suspect that this will be what the SNP and Greens will be quietly hoping for.

This is a long way from being over.

Tried to guess the % before voting (at which point 124 votes had been cast).

Got it spectacularly wrong but it was worth it for the laugh.

🙂

No way, Jose. They are corrupt and perverted. Look at what they did to Andy Wightman who is a sincere environmentalist who has done important research on land ownership.

If they had any principles they would quit over the cuts to housing. But no.

The Greens suffer from GREED! They do not have an ounce of integrity. They will retain their salaries and their cars. They are only in it for the money. Sadly the same can be said for the SNP

This whole GRR was never about empowering trans peoples rights, it was always about destroying the Indy cause by upsetting 50% of the population and damaging the SNP.

The greens lost any principle they had when they considered men more important than women, of course they won’t walk but the SNP will still let the greens rule the chicken hen.

the greens, they / them have principles

and if you dont like them (who does)

we have others… (will sell self for fame and power)

Yousaf? if he had anything,
Could stand up thank Harvey for their service and announce the Green’s retirement from Covt
Why not?
it appears he’s fabricated everything else
Well I’d be smirking

The Greens would need to have principles, they don’t. Not a hope in hell they will give up the only ministerial positions they will ever have

Does anybody know if there is a time-limit regarding a Section 35 order?

Does the order kill the Bill?

Or does Westminster have to keep renewing the order to keep the Bill at bay

Or is Holyrood now legally obliged to officially scrap the Bill?

Kate Forbes wants a minority SNP government.

“People have left the party. We keep having to ditch or rework major policies, for good reason but not without political or financial cost.” She called on the Greens partnership to be repealed because they are a different party to the SNP, and want more distinctive progressive policies.

Daily Excess report

I would like to see someone ask Harvie “is transitioning surgery carbon neutral, and if it isn’t shouldn’t the -greens- be taking a hard JUST STOP TRANNNIES line?”

– just to see his brain explode, or better still someone in the chamber will say

“your name is RumpledForeskin!!” and he will be gone in a “puff” of smoke, like the evil -fairy- in that tale

if you thought there were any “good guys”, think again
link to archive.is
the british state and anyone who works with it at that level must be considered “amalek”

Rory Cormac, professor of international relations at the University of Nottingham and author of How to Stage a Coup and Ten Other Lessons from the World of Secret Statecraft, said: “They recruited across the political spectrum, but left of centre people who were anti-communist were more credible than right wingers.

“They were very sophisticated in some of the ploys and deceptions they used. Their MO [modus operandi] was to put out all manner of information in the hope that some of it would stick.”

Now the trade unions are dead, nationalists are the only real threat (apart from self created ones like muslamic terror and the “far right”)

another tale of tr34chery –
link to angryweegie.wordpress.com

So nonentity Robison drew the short straw to make the announcement while Top Shagger keeps his head down.
Must have had a prior appointment in his diary again..

There’s not a hope in hell that the Greens will resign from government, the Greens have had a wee taste of power and its went straight to their heads.

Like the current SNP there’s absolutely no accountability within the Greens, we can start removing SNP MPs at the next GE, and we can help remove as many Greens and SNP grifting careerists in 2026 as well.

They will not get on their bike in this instance.
I’m surprised they don’t want to waste more money on an appeal.
For the price of a mile long bike lane bedecked in plastic boundary signs adjacent to a congested vehicle lane they could appeal.

If only the failed bottle return scheme had delivered all those 20p returns the appeal could have been self financing.

They can now devote themselves to Fart Free Friesian Cow R & D.

As fifty crates told us democracy is a con . Others have reminded us if voting made a difference it would not be allowed.
The Labour Party were going to reform not join the House of Lords just a century ago. I know some elected Labour people who still cling to that . The SNP has been subverted so much quicker.
There are people in the Green movement who are ecological and terrified of the climate crisis and the Anthropocene nature of much of the destruction. Tho the woo woo folk do seem to have hijacked them for now.
What are we like !?

Nicola Sturgeon. How pathetic. That she got her mate Shona Robinson to read out the statement at Parliament.

You’ve failed Nicola. You’ve failed in everything you’ve set out to achieve.

The only people going to the United Nations. Will be wings over Scotland. When they are nominated for the anti corruption awards. ACE. For exposing what you have done.

You’re no mother. You’ll never be a mother. You’re a disgrace to this country.

What do the New York Jets and the SNP have in common?

They are both supported by Gang Green.

?

Republicofscotland @ 14.54

As long as we’re landed with the D’Hondt closed list voting system for Holyrood I just don’t see how we stop the List Green MSPs getting in, RoS.
I have no figures, however I very much doubt many of us presently vote for them as is. However as long as they manage to maintain their basic minimum core vote (I believe that messrs Harvie & Slater only managed some 16,000 votes between them at the last Holyrood election) the Greens will still get seats on the votes allocated to them from the numbers cast for other Parties. And, those at the top of the Green party will make sure that they get first chance at List seats.
D’Hondt, the gift from messrs Blair and Dewar which keeps on giving.

Healthcare to be improved for trans people – Shona Robison

The Scottish government is looking at new ways to help transgender people after confirming it will scrap an appeal of the UK government’s veto of gender reform.

The best way to improve the health of ‘trans’ people is to get them to stop being ‘trans’.

Injecting fake hormones to better resemble the gender you are not is very bad for the human body. Surgery is worse. NHS Doctors should not be sterilising the mentally ill, because they are not supposed to harm patients. Society should not be encouraging people to lie about their sex.

But here we are again, with the SNP-Nonce administration signalling that it would rather walk a mile on broken glass than do anything for normal, heterosexual, job-having, ‘white people’ (as Humza calls you) Scots.

I don’t know why the Scottish Parliament hates us, but I sure as Hell hate them back a thousand times more. They are the worst people in Scotland, let’s pray we can be free of them one day soon.

Merry Christmas!

Of course the rotten corrupt trough huggers will hold on to the bitter end. The lot of them, including hummer the useless should go, but we will boot them out anyway. Tick Tock!

Not a chance. The so-called ‘Greens’ are just a bunch of grifting sexual perverts.

They will not deny themselves the perks of government office, and in doing so provide the wedge that the Brit state has so successfully driven into the Indy movement.

Money well-spent by perfidious Albion.

As if this farce hasn’t already cost the Scottish taxpayer a bloody fortune, now this.

“SCOTTISH Secretary Alister Jack has confirmed the UK Government will seek expenses from the Scottish Government for the Section 35 legal battle.”

Get the Greens and the SNP out of office at every election

The Greens have enough wriggle room to (try) to justify sticking it out.

They can say the red line was drawing up the legislation and getting it through Holyrood, which of course was done.

They will say they have pushed it as far as was legally possible (at the moment) and point to how all parties supported it (with some notable Conservative exceptions).

They will say the red line stopped at the court’s decision to uphold the s.35 Order. They will say their argument is not with the SNP – no fall-out between them and the SNP. Their argument is with the making of the s.35 order and/or the court’s decision. So claiming the red line has not been breached.

Simples.

Oh look the SNP government gives us ANOTHER date as when the A9 will be dualled, and if you don’t like that one I’m sure they’ll have others, in anycase by 2035 the grifting careerists in the SNP and Greens will have moved on to pastures new, possibly as corporate lobbyists at Holyrood, or to a cushy job in a firm that they made a fortune for whilst as an MSP.

“THE Scottish Government has confirmed that the new deadline for dualling the A9 is 2035.

Cabinet Secretary for Transport Mairi McAllan updated Holyrood on Wednesday on the delivery plan for dualling works for the remaining sections of the A9 between Perth and Inverness.

Former transport minister Jenny Gilruth (below) had told MSPs in February this year that work to upgrade the road to dual-carriageway in its entirety by the original 2025 completion date was “simply unachievable”.

The statement also comes after papers released to Holyrood’s Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee, which is carrying out an inquiry into the dualling programme, revealed ministers were warned two years ago that the work could take until 2034 and cost almost £7.2 billion – more than double the original £3 billion estimate.”

O/T. A9 dualling. Target date for completion now 2035.

Given that they have managed to complete just over a mile per year in the past ten years, a more realistic target date would be 2135.

Now, when do the ferries start operating? Any new target dates for them?

Dark arts at work?
Anybody on twitter / X fancy responding to this tweet asking if Andy is keeping okay seeing as the content on this account of his has dropped off significantly since this post of his at start of November highlighted Scotland exported 1.69TWh of power to England during the previous month.
Concerned Scots are asking…

link to nitter.net

Humza should be made watch RRR. It would compensate for any multiple R withdrawal symptoms he might have and maybe even give him some backbone.

Hopefully the Green Day for the likes of Slater is over; Coz I don’t want to be a (North) American Idiot like her. I’m actually thinking that following their NetZero doctrine was why they tried to screw over Scottish fisherfolk with that other now junked policy to protect seabeds.

Seeing as energy prices are so high to heat oor hooses, warm up for a few minutes exercise as you jump around to Green Day – American Idiot
link to youtube.com

That bunch of grifters giving up their ministerial salaries willingly? Not a fucking chance. They’d throw their gender “siblings” under the bus first.

Slater in particular should be forced to pay back what she squandered on an unworkable bottle return scheme.

This lot refuse to give up on their unwanted by the majority of the public GRRB, the plan now is to put it on ice and see which party gets into government at the next GE.

We really need to vote out as many SNP MPs as possible at the next GE, for this lot are determined to seriously impinge upon women and girls rights.

Get the SNP out at the next GE. Vote Alba Join Alba.

“SNP ministers have refused to ditch controversial gender reform legislation despite accepting it has no chance of becoming law while the Conservatives remain in power at Westminster.”

SAS said.

“Somerville, the Social Justice Secretary, said today the GRR bill “remained the government’s policy”. “It remains a Bill passed by the majority of this parliament and we will not be withdrawing it.”

Will they heckers like.

Why on earth would they turn down troughable expenses at a ministerial level plus perceived (and no more than that) influence?

David Hannah: even the NULabour party would think twice about getting embroiled in this nonsense. If they do pick up they baton, they will lose the race big time and be out of the door in double quick time. The Greens are parasites and, if they offer to prop up Labour, then Labour will deserve its fate if it accepts. If the ‘trans’ lobby tries to move over to Labour, then it will parasitise and destroy the party from within as it did to the SNP. The amount of public money that has been promised to the NHS to specifically treat ‘trans’ unreality (while people with real illnesses and disabilities have to wait) and the money already gifted to this lobby (all its various parts) should add up to a public outcry. Most people just do not know what is going on, unfortunately. If they ever try to reintroduce the GRRB, there will almost certainly be riots in the streets the next time. Every government and every institution has a duty of care to everyone, not just one special group of very con fused people led by chancers who, in turn, are led by their appendages. The duty of care is a legal one and anyone can sue if he or she feels that the duty of care is being breached illegally.

Merganser @ 19.31

There are any SNP Branch members left ? They’ve been shedding members so quickly I’d thought that the average Branch membership would be down to a couple of diehard OAPs with a wee dug on a piece of binder twine.

Dundee Scot says:
20 December, 2023 at 3:31 pm
Put not your trust in politicians….

And yet people actually believe the Alba Party will be different. Just like they thought the SNP would be different.…

Under Alex Salmond, the SNP was different. It was turning our nation around and threatening to get Scotland back on its feet. He had the whole Unionist Establishment rattled and panicked.

Salmond made three mistakes in my opinion;

1. He didn’t press the Claim of Right Constitutional button in 2014, which would have strengthened YES tremendously. Even now, he has a reticence I don’t agree with, but I have inordinate respect for his strategic judgement.

2. He stood down before Independence was over the Finish line.

3. He appointed Sturgeon the Betrayer as his successor.

I’ll never understand the first. If Salmond built Scotland United around SALVO’s brief, Scotland would have live rounds in the Constitutional chamber, and finally stop firing blanks.

I do understand the second. Salmond is Old School, and failing to win in 2014 had a price to pay. He did the right thing, but I dearly wish he hadn’t. And the latter Conspiracy to frame him was an absolute disgrace, but not upon him.

The third “mistake” is on Sturgeon’s tre(acher)ous character defects rather than a failure of Salmond’s judgement. She’s a snake, and squandered Independence when it was in the palm of our hands. I harbour more animosity towards Sturgeon than even the shrillest and deluded Unionist or Tory. She should never be forgiven for her asinine abdication of Scotland’s Constitutional strengths, ever, and I’d love to see her rotting in prison, where she belongs, and pilloried as another Toom Tabard disgrace upon Scotland.

The paradox is, I want to see every squalid detail of her odious conspiracy and subversion of Independence fully exposed in all it’s t(reach)erous detail, but at the same time, I’d like nothing better than to see Sturgeon and her legacy expunged from every record and all mention of her erased from Scotland’s history.

I hope they build a bronze statue of Sturgeon simply for all the pleasure of seeing it torn down and flung in a skip.

Tommo @ 7:52 pm

“As a supporter of the Union”

What ‘Union’ might that be? Most colonized peoples were left holding worthless violated treaties, their enslavement brought about by complicit native elites. Scotland seems no different.

@Breeks (8.19) –

Hear hear.

Have C&Ped your comment into a tweet where it will no doubt be as well received as the previous have been.

😉

Dundee Scot says: Salmond made three mistakes in my opinion; Really 🙂

Alex Salmond led an SNP minority government in his first term. His government passed landmark legislation, including the abolishment of university tuition fees, the scrapping of prescription charges and commitment to renewable energy.

Then at the 2011 Scottish Parliament election he and the SNP won with an overall majority, a feat previously thought almost impossible under the additional member system used in elections for the Scottish Parliament.

And as of 2023, his is the only election in which a party has won a majority in the Scottish Parliament.

In summary, Alex Salmond used his 2011 mandate to hold a referendum, which led to the signing of the Edinburgh Agreement and the 2014 referendum.

So Dundee Scot..what the fk have you ever done to earn an opinion on anyone… let alone a genuine significant Scottish politician?

Who are you or what are you to spout – Salmond made three mistakes in my opinion.

Fine. What the fk have you ever done or achieved in progressing the wellbeing of the Scots and Scotland_

And 🙂 who the fk cares what your opinion is?

@Breeks 8:19pm
I think you are being harsh on Alex Salmond. He ran a competent Government. I haven’t heard anybody say he didn’t including Unionists. Not for him a self created 1.5 billion pound black hole. He blocked a renewable project I was involved in. Because it was a project over 100k. Fair enough. His fiscal rules at thet time. I give you the appointment of Sturgeon although I left the SNP in 2015. I saw it before him but Narcissistic behaviour is difficult to diagnose.

I am astonished nobody has picked up on Sam’s post from the previous thread, so here it is again:

“Following publication of our work, the Scottish Government approached NIESR to provide this analysis for Scotland specifically, as part of their Expert Advisory Group on Migration and Population’s wider report into how to enable asylum seekers to gain employment, improve wellbeing and reduce the risk of exploitation.

Our new research found that allowing people to work while they wait for outcomes of their asylum applications could add £30 million to Scotland’s economy annually by allowing some eight thousand people to work.

We found the benefit to the Scottish economy would be through helping to fill gaps in the Scottish workforce, which in turn increases future council tax paid directly to the local authorities that host asylum seekers. we found no substantive downward pressure was likely to be generated on the wages of existing Scottish workers. One reason for this is simply the scale, migrant flow (especially in the case of Scotland – just a few thousand asylum seekers–) is markedly small compared to the size of the existing workforce.

The Scottish Government have stated that the full report will underpin the development of proposals for a Scottish Asylum Right to Work pilot which is due to be submitted to the Home Office in 2024.”

Let me summarise:

1) ScotGov wants to import workers without going to the hassle of even properly vetting them or making them citizens beforehand.

2) They lie about the numbers that would be involved. Just a moment’s thought suggests that the numbers used to justify this idea (just a “few thousand”) would balloon enormously once word got out that Scotland was a place where you didn’t even need vetting to start work.

3) And another moment’s thought shows that if it is against somebody’s human rights to deport them if they keep a pet, what’s the chances if they have a job?

In other words, this is a Trojan Horse with which to begin the Great Replacement pretendy FM Yousaf promised.

Never say you weren’t warned.

Absolutely disgraceful. I want a Scotland for the Scots. And tough immigration laws. Brutal immigration laws. We don’t Scotland turning into the middle east. Where we feel alien in our own city. No thank you.

“David Hannah says:
20 December, 2023 at 9:59 pm

Absolutely disgraceful. I want a Scotland for the Scots. And tough immigration laws.”

I daresay that the Indians wanted India for the Indians – but then the British turned up. You can alter that to apply to quite a lot of countries, and the boot is now on the other foot.

@Derek 10:17pm
Indeed the boot is on the other foot. That would be Women For Scotland and half the population of Scotland. I don’t mind putting Holyrood into special measures because for years we have pointed out the structural and procedural deficiencies of Holyrood.

My mum passed away today. A 95 year old lady born im Sligo in Ireland. She came to Britain in 1947 and married a Scotsman from Cathcart who had just retured a different man from the boy who had left in 1940 to fight the fascist. Throughout their lives they both were staunch Labour supporters until the late 1970’s when they realised that that Labour Party was one of the same machine and they both converted to the SNP. They never got to see Scotland independent or social true justice. I can’t believe we are still tied to the unionist apron strings . Please everyone , fight for Independence.

Condolences, Morgatron.

My auld ma passed earlier this year, she and my faither baith knew what was right, and it wisnae ‘BBC’ bollocks or being ruled by Tory Engerland.

Never trust a Tory, or a Yoon. The auld yins kent, and still ken, some of them onyway.

@ Morgatron: condolences on your mother’s passing today.

To Morgatron, my sincerest condolences. It is really difficult to lose a loved one, especially at this time of year.

Morgatron. So sorry for your loss. Your mum won’t see an independent Scotland, I won’t and neither will most of us auld ones. It’s hard. Sending love to you and family x

To Morgatron and your family, sincere condolences for the loss of your mum, there is never a good time for loved ones to pass especially at this time, bear up buddy and know that we will never stop fighting to realise your parents and our dreams of a FREE SCOTLAND , the fight goes on

@ Morgatron. Condolences to you and your family.

@Derek says:21 December, 2023 at 12:08 am

getting upset at “what goes around comes around” is a bit selfish

Where to start.

Let’s just say that my faith in the right of universal suffrage is severely tested when I encounter comments like that one.

Unless Derek’s avin a larff, in which case, Derek, you got me good.

John Main @ 9:31 pm

“If you’re still feeling enslaved tomorrow, give us a shout.”

You forget that Scots indeed were and remain ‘procured’; and over half of us were removed/displaced; with most of the remaining Scots still living in or close to poverty, prevented from accessing our resources or opportunities in oor ain laund.

Postcolonial theory tells us that the pampered and culturally assimilated native bourgeoisie do not wish to recognise this reality because they seek to protect themselves as ‘functionaries’ within the colonial racket, many paid off by Humza’s colonial budget.

Why do you think an ‘independence movement depends on the solidarity of the oppressed ethnic group’ (Hechter) which in our case is predominantly working class Scots language speakers, i.e. those who remain enslaved?

Like Count Dracula colonialism and its like only goes where invited.
Trade has alway been the thing with the bling.
It would do no harm to invite them to trade, would it?
Oh, how innocent! Trade, the soft colonialism, is more deadly than the gun for its effects are longer lasting.
Twas trade that did for Scotland, India, the indigenous peoples of North America and to a large extent the EU, now inhabiting a limbo of second hand anglo-american «values».
The reason the Japanese for centuries kept the traders locked in secure enclaves. Then they let them out…..

A pertinent example of anglo-american «values».
link to unherd.com
What happened to «if it is not rational and clear it is not French»….

When I worked in Vienna, my best pal was a Nigerian.

He had come in 20 years earlier on a dodgy student visa helped by family connections working at the UN.

When it came to election time and we were discussing the parties, he said that he didn’t follow it at all. He would always vote for the Socialists, because they were the ones that had done a mass amnesty type thing, giving citizenship to all sorts of iffy visa holders. Since they had worked out for him, they would have his vote for life. (And he new several other arrivals since, and hoped they would repeat something similar for them)

That is the sort of thing our current politicians aim to attract, a life long committed voter base, far less trouble than the natives shopping around for competency and decency.

The National – ‘Petty’ Jack to seek legal costs for section 35.

£150,000 wasted. And the legal advice would have told Shirley Anne Somerville you had no chance of winning.

She’s wasted all of our money. And they’ve put the rail fares up for 8.7 per sent.

Scotland hitting the buffers with SNP Rail. Nationalisation without the benefits. Rip of taxes on ambition. Rip of taxes on commuters. We know the Scottish Government all works from home. We know civil servants in Scotland are the most obvious, self righteous, corrupt, sneering and are barriers to business and success. The procurement processes in the Scottish Government are an absolute scandal. The civil service. They don’t answer FOIs. They are nerds. They are lowers. They are some of the most horrible people in the entire nation.

And all of them work from home. While the rest of us commute to work. They put up low emission zones. They despise drivers. And now they are not going green either. Because they hate rail travellers.

Fuck the SNP. That’s my Christmas message. Can’t pay. Won’t pay.

8.7 per cent rail fare hike.

Time for a panorama documentary. From a good civil servant. Life inside the civil service as an intern. They are the most corrupt. Obvious bunch of people in the history of the country.

There was a cop on the news last night that went under cover and befriended a murderer for 20 months. And got a confession out of him. The first homocide charge in this manner. Incredible. Absolutely incredible story. What a hero he is.

We need a mole. We need information on the inside of our corrupt government. Our twitter loving. Green haired goblins we call the civil service in Scotland.

The non binary legislation and conversion therapy bills. Go and fuck yourselves you absolute melts!

Was there any explanation why the normally 20 hour a week part time parliament suddenly put in night shifts to get the GRR bill through? It seemed bizarre at the time.

Don’t you find it strange that the leaders of both Ireland and Scotland don’t seem to like white people very much, i.e. the indigenous populations.

How did we end up in a situation like this. Because neither of them are nationalists. They are globalists. They are not interested in building us up as a nation and making us better. They want the reverse, to weaken us, break us down.

All the woke poison is to turn everyone against each other endlessly. So we never, ever present any kind of threat to those really in power.

You’ll note with all these ‘woke’ progressive leaders they are for every war, every time.

We are in real peril here… and not just because of all of the above which is bad enough, but also because that viru$ was not natural, and nor was it accidental. That should inform you as to what they are capable of doing and very likely are doing.

I think the globalists are ultimately going to lose this battle but they will very likely destroy us trying, and not give one single fuck about the massive human suffering they cause, history proves that all too well from their previous incarnations…

Merry Solstice.

@ Mac

Another excellent post .

” And people will leave Scotland, move business, it all has an effect. ”

Specifically , Scots will leave Scotland . As they’ve * always * done , either through necessity or simply desire to see/explore other places .

The difference now is those departing Scots are being replaced by – in my area of the Highlands anyway – mostly * comfortable * English people , more often than not retirees , with their own values , political leanings and * loyalties * and zero sense of/interest in Scotland’s history ; the effects and implications of the * Union * or concern for what is truly in the best interests of the country they’ve moved to ..ie ..Scotland : of course , many of them don’t even acknowledge that Scotland IS a different country – to them it’s merely the Northern part of THEIR country , albeit with a few * quaint * customs and * accents * .

Replacement by imposition of large numbers of people from completely * alien * cultures is also being weaponised by those for whom every problem has only a global solution ; and this despite many of the problems being created by Globalists themselves . * Climate * being the latest big knobbly club with which to beat us into compliance ; and may prove the most damaging to our liberty and sense of National Identity .

This is happening all over the Western World . Does anyone actually believe the almost unbelievable numbers of people crossing over the US southern border is merely circumstantial ?
Not only are the numbers incalculable , things like points of origin , possible ( in some cases definite ) criminal records , political/religious affiliations , psychological make-up are not being given even cursory examination . Just , ” let ’em in , the more the better ” . This is already impacting in cities all across the US , deepening and increasing the already parlous state of the US economy , causing even more social friction – * Us * v * Them * , fighting over ever-diminishing social welfare crumbs . Cui Bono from this state of continuous strife ?

Nu SNP are simply vacuous clowns , brainless puppets whose strings are being manipulated by forces they are incapable of even being aware of , let alone resisting .

This does not in any way excuse them . They are culpable for their stupidity , and should be removed at the earliest opportunity . That any likely replacement is not going to be any better is a fact we may just have to accept . At least any future fucked-up shambles will not be perpetrated by a ( so-called ) ” Party of Independence ” .

It is the scale of it as well Robert, going back a long time, decades.

I recall people commenting how it was strange that woke / progressiveness and all the tr@nny gender madness appeared across the West almost simultaneously, from nowhere, and all mainstream parties, on the full political spectrum, were all fully on board…

With hindsight that was a big clue, that it was not in any way a natural or organic political movement.

Mass uncontrolled immigration is a main weapon, make no doubt about it. As you observe you cannot explain the situation in the US currently any other way, it is so in your face at this point.

The Scottish «independence movement» is plum in the middle of a wider existential crisis.
It does not seem to me that it is in anyway intellectually gifted enough to deal with it. In that it is not alone, as my previous comment indicated.
The «queering» of society is designed to confuse, atomize and isolate.
The independence of a country, its people and the promotion of its cultures is anathema.
«Queering» is non rational, it is something an individual is required to «feel», it is a skin to be put on and taken off as the occasion demands.
«Queering» has little to with homosexuality, something that been around since the dawn of human cultural awareness. The advent of the self styled «gay consciousness» in all its American and repressed puritan sexuality origins and strident counter culturalism is its driver. Allied to the «boy love» blather of the sex predator Foucault and his catamites we end up with a mixture toxic to all it contaminates.
Politics is now personalized identity, the freedom of peoples, ethnicities, nations, communities and any concept of ideology, of history, of reason and of science has been discarded in favour of the affective.

(Homo sapiens, the only creature endowed with reason, is also the only creature to pin its existence on things unreasonable)
Henri Bergson.

@Alf Baird says:21 December, 2023 at 9:03 am

working class Scots language speakers, i.e. those who remain enslaved

I’m getting a bit old to be relearning my first language (which is English BTW). I ken fine what the meanings of “slave”, “slavery” and “enslaved” are.

Here we are today discussing those New Scots who will bite the hands off anybody who offers them a shot at the jobs your “enslaved Scots working class” can’t be bothered to get out of bed to do.

If that’s slavery, it’s surely remarkable there are so many willing, eager volunteers to take it on, no questions asked.

Not for the first time, Alf, I’m simply pointing out that ridiculous, over-the-top language hinders, rather than helps. When the language comes with such historical baggage, I think some will find it offensive too.

If Indy really depends on convincing a majority of the nation we’re slaves, then I hae ma doots it’s ever going to happen.

There were four distinct interconnecting actions that triggered the mass uncontrolled immigration / refugee crisis in Europe. These four actions are not an exhaustive list by any means, they are just the more obvious ones.

The first (and this is not in chronological order) was the killing of G@dhafi and the destruction of Liby@. G@dhafi used to openly boast about how he was holding back waves of Afric@n migr@nts seeking to cross the Med and he also used it as a threat and an insurance policy, i.e. ‘this will happen if anything happens to me’. So they killed him…

The second was the invasion and destruction of Ir@q, creating millions of displaced people…

The third was the invasion and destruction of Syri@ (and Ir@q again) by a super scary ultra extreme violence mercenary force that seemingly appears out of nowhere and which commits incredibly graphic and brutal torture executions, which they record in Hollywood level produced videos, driving millions to flee in terror…

The fourth and most recent was the Ukr@ine war, causing millions to flee the war, conscription and certain death…

Seeing any pattern above?

In each of the above they were essentially done / orchestrated by western globalists leaders.

So when some people say ‘look WE destroyed these countries, so it is only right we accept all the refugees’ it is not the real truth of it.

The truth is ‘THEY destroyed these countries in order to create all the refugees’.

The people creating the mass immigration / refugee crisis are all globalists. It is not a coincidence. They want this. Which is what should worry you the most.

It probably should not come as a surprise that globalists like destroying nation states (including their own ‘host’ nation) and reducing them to chaos. It is a clear and obvious pattern. They also don’t care about the enormous human suffering they generate, not at all. That should also be obvious by now.

@Mac says:21 December, 2023 at 1:01 pm

You had me nodding along until your fourth example.

Shame you had to shoehorn in a pet peeve – instead of bolstering your argument, you just blew it up.

The Greens are deviants without any integrity. They wont quit.

Pacman.

On Japan, its entire infrastructure is utterly compromised as reveled by whistleblower Edward Norton. If recall correctly (the Great Satan (USA) is squatting in so many countries now) Japan has the largest number of US military personnel of any of its staging posts around the globe.

Japan is further compromised by it Liberal party which has close ties with the USA, in effect Japan is a s f*cked as the UK when it comes to being a Great Satan (USA) puppet state.

Jobs for the Boys as the saying goes, well the SNP government managed to appoint one of their own, Horsebox Mike Russell to the Chair of Land Reform, the result of this almost nepotistic move is that Russell will now give advise on land in Scotland to his SNP buddies.

Andy Wightman in an article pointed out that this was on the cards.

Clay Davis of The Wire Fame mode on/

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeite… Maybe Operation Branchform should contact Jimmy McNulty and Lester Freamon and see if they are up for putting in a shift or two, as decades ago they managed to track and trace phone and money stuff quicker and with older tech.

Sound bites from Fanon, Memmi and others aren’t hitting the spot. I was hoping in an earlier thread that Alf Baird could post a precis of ‘other’ colonial societies he has studied, and how they were influenced before and after colonisation so we can be convinced of Scotland’s similar plight.

The cost of train fares in Scotland is set to rise a whopping 9% in April, our esteemed FM had this to say about it.

“Any fare increase is unwelcome – but I hope you understand, after 13-and-a-half years of Westminster austerity, we have significant pressures on our budget and we have to respond accordingly.”

Fingering pointing to Westminster for the state Scotland is in, is the usual get-out clause from the SNP under Sturgeon and now Yousaf. We could’ve ditched this vile union after Brexit but Sturgeon betrayed us, and things will only get worse whilst we allow Yousaf to finger point with his nodding donkeys on the benches behind him clapping like seals waiting on fish to be thrown to them.

Westminster steals hundreds of millions of pounds from Scotland every day through smart accounting tricks, as our cities crumble and our people suffer hardships, our colonial administration doesn’t seem to care about either, but they do care about getting men dressed as women into women and girls safe spaces, so much so they’ve spent millions of pounds of taxpayers cash to try and force their GRRB on the Scottish public who in the majority don’t want it.

But hey when has the SNP government (from Sturgeon onwards) ever given a toss what Scots want.

Kate Forbes should force another vote on the lame GRR to see who is still willing to support it after the legal ruling and clear public majority against.
Let see who you are before any elections.

@Republicofscotland says:21 December, 2023 at 3:34 pm

in effect Japan is a s f*cked as the UK when it comes to being a Great Satan (USA) puppet state

You reckon?

Third biggest economy in the world, after the USA and the Covid spreaders.

Population 125 million or so too, so all that luvverly wealth is shared between a proportionately smaller number of people.

Amazing what a country sheltered and protected by the American hegemon can achieve in terms of peace, prosperity, democracy, public services, health care, quality of life, retention of culture, language, religion, national values, etc.

I know that when you croak your dying words, they will be “Great Satan” RoS, but few readers will ever be with you in believing that any country anywhere would ever be better off as part of the BRICS.

Soz.

Dan @ 17.32

Oops, identity confuddlement, Dan, breath easy. I believed you were referencing real life cop Jimmie MacNulty who was a computer buff and, I believe, a D/c with Strathclyde Police Stolen Car Squad.
Seldom watching TV myself I’ve no idea what the TV series is, so no spoiler alert after all.

Ross Greer could raise funds for the Greens by letting people slap him.

It appears Yousaf’s (mis)Government and clown cabinet persists in its determination and commitment to insult Scotland’s women and parents by retaining the deeply unpopular Gender Self ID.

Apparently these self-serving hypocrites now hope for a UK Labour Government in the expectation it might lift the S35.

So Sturgeon and her continuity candidate’s SNP not only purposely attacked, sold and attempted to destroy the momentum of the independence movement. Now they are showing us their uttermost contempt by selling Scotland’s women to labour.

Who gave them the right to hold Scotland’s women and children to ransom? Who/What gave them ownership over Scotland’s women and children?

At least there is no doubt now why, since Sturgeon took control of the SNP, she and her successor have been doing all what they could to make the party unelectable. They are seeking a labour win so children and women can be exposed to perverts.

It has seemed rather obvious for a while now that the SNP leadership from November 2014 onwards have been deliberately sinking the party and disenfranchising pro-independence fundamentalists. Their plan must not be working very well when they have to go to the lengths of openly selling Scotland’s women and children’s safety to become unelectable. The question is Why. What are they trying to achieve for themselves? What incentive have they been given to leave a legacy of devastation to this ridiculous level?

How can these people actively and knowingly side with perverts, rapists and paedophiles and not be concerned for their own credentials, reputation and future prospects? Metaphorically speaking, this is like public self-immolation of their political careers. So what have they been promised in exchange for such level of sacrifice and by whom? Who/What is really behind this?

In 1706 self-serving crooks sitting in the Parliament of Scotland rammed the ratification of the treaty of union with England through. They did so deliberately against the will of the majority of the people of Scotland. They did not do it for the sake of Scotland. They did it for the benefit of the crown.

Those individuals in 1706 were not representing Scotland. They were representing the interests of the English Queen. Therefore, they did not deserve to call themselves “Parliament of Scotland” because they were deliberately acting against Scotland. They were abusing their position of power and the seats in Scotland’s parliament.

Fast forward 300 years and we have, yet again, a repeat of the same scene. We have a bunch of self serving crooks sitting in Holyrood, displaying different rosette colours only for show because in reality all of them are operating at the same side: against the people of Scotland.

This is the 21st century and, allegedly, this is a democracy. Yet, these 21 century crooks, are happy to display the exact same lack of scruples and principles their counterparts had in 1706 when they abused our seats in parliament to ram through this toxic legislation.

In 1706 the power abusers were representing the monarch. So who are the power abusers sitting in Holyrood in the 21st century representing? Because by passing that toxic legislation they left not doubt whatsoever they are not representing, nor even having the most remote interest in representing, Scotland.

So what is Holyrood? Because when undemocratic and unscrupulous individuals, abuse that parliament to force unpopular legislation on Scotland, you can not call it the Parliament of Scotland.

So, whose parliament is it? Who, What is it representing? Who/What is governing Scotland and from where is it being ruled?

Why hasn’t a public enquiry started to investigate the links of each and every one of the MSPs who abused their seats and our parliament to vote to ram this toxic legislation through with those sitting in the gallery to which they clapped once they had voted to betray Scotland’s women and children’s safety and parental rights?

When exactly were male prostitutes given control of our parliament, why and under whose instruction?

What are the links of each and every one of those who voted to force this toxic legislation on the Scottish people with big pharma, with perverts and paedophiles and with those actively working to create political division to neuter the independence movement not being exposed?

How can any of those sitting in Holyrood keep a straight face, when they pontificate about the UK gov’s assault on democracy by blocking “Holyrood’s will” , when those sitting in Holyrood forced that legislation after blocking the will of the majority of the people of Scotland they were supposed to be representing?

What kind of rent-a-dictators do we have sitting in Holyrood?

And why the eye-watering amounts of Scottish taxyapers’ cash that these self-serving amateur dictators have wasted in this crap, including court cases, MSP time, “advisors”‘ salaries, the millions handed to quangos to force this thing in schools and public services, the money sucked from the budgets for the NHS, prisons and other public services to roll this gender nonsense through all departments and brainwash workers to accept it, are not plastered every day in the front pages of every single newspaper?

Why aren’t Nicola Sturgeon, Robison, Sommerville, Yousaf, Cole-Hamilton, Sarvar, Harvie, Slater, Chapman and Carlaw being door-stepped every day by reporters about this?

Who is really behind this nonsense?

I am sick to the back teeth of watching SNP politicians shedding faux crocodile tears about the “carnage” to devolution caused by the UK gov by blocking this toxic legislation. As far as I am concerned, they can take their faux crocodrile tears and concerns for devolution, move out of the way and into where they belong: the labour party. The SNP was not voted in to protect devolution. They were voted in to terminate devolution by delivering independence.

Frankly, I am shocked that mass deselection of SNP and Green MSPs and MPs has not started yet after the way they have betrayed the independence movement, women and children.

John Main @5.55pm.

Tell that to the countless Japanese women that have been brutally raped by US service men in Okinawa over the years.

“Both the U.S. and Japanese governments want to minimize people’s awareness of the number of crimes committed by U.S. service members on Okinawa. They think if this information becomes public, it will harm U.S.-Japan relations. They believe the U.S.-Japan relationship should take priority over the rights of Okinawans,”

link to theintercept.com

@Republicofscotland says:21 December, 2023 at 6:55 pm

That’s whataboutery or deflection or somesuch, but WTF, I can play along with your pathetic Student Grant games.

My Russti rapes in 404 and my ham boys rapes in Israel beat your US rapes in Japan.

TS, eh?

@ Mia

” Frankly, I am shocked that mass deselection of SNP and Green MSPs and MPs has not started yet after the way they have betrayed the independence movement, women and children. ”

I’m shocked that the Scottish Public haven’t thus far entered Holyrood en masse and dragged these imbeciles out , placed them in stocks and pelted them with an assortment of rotten fruit . Or worse .

Not only for the utter lunacy of GRR and the outrageous lie that they were mandated to pursue this , 1st as a policy , then the demented , doomed-to-failure attempt at legal recourse . Unforgivable stupidity. Or deliberate sabotage ? Probably both .

But so is their silence and cowardice at mounting any kind of resistance or challenge to the rapacious energy companies who appear to have carte blanche to rob the public by whatever amount they like . Shareholders watch their dividends & Pensioners watch their meters .

Thank fuck * we * won the Cold War , eh ? That’s why we’re living such luxurious lives , in impeccable Democracies , governed by enlightened sages , right ?

Neo Liberal Capitalism won the Cold War , and is now a voracious psychopathic monster , which has consumed the Political Class , MSM , * Science * , Academia and is in the process of consuming the Earth and all it’s wondrous beauty & generosity .

We’re next .

@Republicofscotland says:21 December, 2023 at 7:04 pm

the SNP has betrayed us since Sturgeon became FM and now Yousaf has taken up that baton of treachery

Ross is working against the best interests of Scots

The blind, binary tribalism of the “politics as football” fanatic.

There’s the right kind of tractor, and then there’s the wrong kind.

There’s our tractors, and then there’s their tractors.

There’s doing something we like for the right ideological reasons (which we support) and then there’s doing exactly the same thing for the wrong ideologically impure reasons (which we vehemently oppose).

I’m not saying this is a uniquely Scottish phenomenon, but we probably take it further than other nations.

RoS certainly does.

@Alf Baird says:21 December, 2023 at 7:35 pm

There is of course a difference between ‘colonists’ and ‘economic migrants’, or ‘asylum seekers’

Mind if I get a second opinion? My family members in Canada have some First Nation friends. I’ll get their views and report back.

On second thoughts, looking at the son of economic migrants, Humza Yousaf, why would I need to waste their time?

Or should be

Forever fret about what should be, or deal with the world as it is. That’s called realpolitik.

Only one of these approaches will work.