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January 02, 1968 by
Rev. Stuart Campbell
For off-topic chat. Duh.
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A tall tale
Wee Books
Video
Probably a robbery
Transphobia
Cactus:
Do you have any more verses?
Peace,Love and Poetry
BDDT: that was funny. Haven’t seen that before.
Cactus, if you get across to Bute one day, try to get down to St Blane’s churchyard. It has a very special atmosphere, and nothing to do with religion.
A very old place by the sea.
“I saw eternity the other night.”
Brian Doonthetoon:
I haven’t seen you on here for days.;-)
BUT I came across a brilliant,funny Website for people like
me who have read the whole interweb.Love It!
Peace,Love and Anagrams
BDTT,
PS.Did you check out the Blindside Blues Band(Crossroads)
Good Musicians!
Peace Always
Angus & Julia Stone- Heart Beats Slow (Live from the Distillery)
Michael McCabe says:
7 September, 2016 at 12:56 pm
Angus & Julia Stone- Heart Beats Slow
Bikers,Guns,Sex and Funny Fag’s
What more could a man ask for.
Peace,Love and Eric Clapton”let it grow”
Tinto Chiel ~
Bute, St Blane’s churchyard. I’ve made a note of that. I will make a point of visiting there one day, thanks.
Hi Cactus:
No man is an Island.
But you seem be in every Island!
Peace,Love and Island Hoppers
Smallaxe ~
Sure, why not! Here be the second verse to “Free Again.” I’ll add the chorus in too.
“If we could only
See ourselves
The way that others do
Then maybe we would stop
to take a different point of view
See I’m still wondering
What I’m gonna do
Cause I just keep on falling over
In love with you.. Scotland..
(bridge of harmonies)
Chorus:
Free.. again..
To be free.. again..
Free.. again
Free again..”
Aye!
Oh reggie
In France so fraternal greetings, wingers.
Not that I condone vandalism but arrived at a campsite in the Rhone Alps, and the guy who’s showing us the site pointed to the Union Jack, pulled down, “strong winds after brexit”? Not sure what he was saying, but I was telling him we were Scottish, and he said, oh I know, I don’t point the flag out to the English! Anyway he took a note of wings over Scotland as he is interested in developments, I asked him if he knew about Scotland wants to remain European, and he said of course everyone does.
Anyway this reminds me of camping in Europe when I was younger,, peace!
link to youtube.com
Music is poetry ~ Poetry is music.
Yeah, Scottish island hopping is essential for the soul, in fact it’s the complete tonic! Maybe we should get a crowd together and go spread the good words up in our Shetland Islands next..
Anybuddy gotta boat?
Online indy leaning radio @
Argyll Independent Radio – tonight (Wed) 7-9pm Backtrax.
(DJ gordoz)
To all wingers; why not listen while on WoS, to a wide range mix of all kinds of rock music from all over the globe but with a big hint of Scottish influence & politics ( from the 70’s to the present day).
And thanx to the Yes Supporter for offering the new gear for the station, absolutely magic. (Much Appreciated)
link to argyllradio.co.uk
Lochside came up with a couple of good phrases today on the main thread: “poets and comic singers” and “echo chamber of babble”.
Much better than than O/T, don’t you think?
I’m feeling optimistic today, so I’ll just say we’ll all be singing this sooner than we think:
link to m.youtube.com
Don’t know whether it’s Indy in the air, but I zipped through 7 months backlog of bank statements, transactions, unopened letters and scattered paper junk and got my VAT return in with a full half hour to spare, feeling pretty groovy I’m like a link to youtube.com
Era’s another one
link to youtube.com
Wow.
Come Independence, don’t shred all the files Westminster. Keep a few for this fella.
link to gereports.com
*crotchets new unicorn loo-roll cover*
Sorry about my ill-judged comments re. Shepherdess bog roll cover, Paula Rose. Well, I’d been stuck in there for hours and all that loud Reggae: you can have too much of a good thing, ye know.
How about a matching lion and unicorn set in eau de Nile and heliotrope?
Think Sirdar has a pattern.
Transferring this to here for possible discussion!
Stoker says: @ gus1940
I have a similar idea as yours but it’s not connected in anyway to the SNP nor should it be. It would be completely WOS orientated and driven, giving us much more freedom to operate and promote WOS and the idea of Scottish independence at the same time.
A Wings Over Scotland roadshow travelling around the country to different towns and cities raising awareness and recruiting.
We could have whatever suits each venue such as stall(s), activities, music, whatever.
These swally rally’s are all very well and they serve a purpose perfectly but instead of expecting folk to make arrangements and travel from all over the country why don’t we get organised and take the show to them?
Just another idea which has been reverberating around my cranial cavity for a wee while.
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Cactus says:
Aweright Stoker ~
We could crowdfund a tour, come mobile roadshow..
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Stoker says:
Yip, that’s the very idea Cactus. Take the show to the people and promote Indy and WOS awareness. Even if we just focused our first roadshow on our cities then we could look at a town tour for the next one. Hope you’re well!
Stoker hope we see you on the 18th – this has been a WOS idea for some time, be good to have a face to face about it.
Yeah, t-minus 10 days to go now till the gig on the Green. The historic significance of this location for the gathering goes way deep into your past, Glasgow.
It was given to you Glasgow, for the people.. it’s yours!
Howde Smallaxe ~
Where were we at with Nine Miles..?
I must pry, I must, I must..
P.L.U.S.
Thinking abut the main thread, if youse lot are going to have a roadshow which sounds like a great idea, I’d suggest bedecking some vehicle like the YES bus with penants including the English, Welsh and Northern Irish flag (a lot of Northern Irish moved to Scotland because it’s close and the troubles), Polish, French, Indian, Pakistan, as many penants as you can get. Make the thing truly welcoming to people of all origins. You might want to think about having the Union Jack as well, it should be welcoming to all.
I’d also suggest writing to whatever wee paper in advance, who might just send a reporter and photographer, and even clearing it with the Police in the hope of attracting crowds
Don’t forget the flag of Japan, to make think think of transferring that investment to a Scotland in the EU when they move it out of the rUK. It’s never too soon. Also of course the US, Canadian, Australian. I think you can get bunting strings fairly cheap.
Quick look for “flag bunting” and £3.99 on ebay for starters. You’d have to add the “home nations”.
Tomorrow bwtween 7pm and 8pm I have George “Andy” Anderson on as a guest on my “Roundabout” discussion programme on http://www.argyllradio.co.uk talking about his report “Defending Democracy” (which has become known as “the Dunoon Report”)and answering question about some of the concerns that continue to grow about the insecurity of the postal ballot at the referendum. (He will be on next week also talking about the economy and the currency which is an area of expertise for him)
Tomorrow’s programme will be of course be followed by my “Not Fade Away” rock’n’roll programme (which will include TJenny’s request). 8pm – 9pm
@ Andrew McLean in the Rhone Alps – many thanks for conveying fraternal greetings from our French cousins. Glad to see our Foreign Correspondents posting morale boosting dispatches!
Cactus:
Sorry about delay,I took Mrs S. up to the Peace camp at Faslane,then to Loch Long,Loch Lomond and pairts aboot for her
Birthday.I am trying to write the rest of the saga in one go,
to save putting it in installments. I will post as soon as it’s finished.
Peace and Love to you my Island hopping Friend.
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Out on the randan in Glasgow last night (The Dhabba, followed by The Pot Still for all you Kulture Vultures) with some old pals from primary in the 60s.
Anyhow one guy was a Canadian exile: very strong Rangers fan, self-made man, able to retire in his 40s, Burns Club performer, golfer. You can see where this stereotype is going, can’t you?
Except he completely surprised me by saying he would have voted Yes, and even better, he scoffed at the BBC and how they twisted everything to put Scotland in a bad light. He thought Canadian news was much much better. And, no, I had said nothing at that stage.
I may be wrong, but he doesn’t sound like the kind of guy who frequents sites like this to turn him into a frothing cybersep/BBC hater so I was quite cheered up that he saw right through our wonderful state broadcaster when so many resident Scots can’t. Mind you, he had travelled pretty widely in the course of his work.
The only sad bit of the night was listing all the people we knew who had to leave Scotland for a job: you know, that wonderful Union Dividend.
Stoker, if you’re in the Hamilton area, I sometimes have a coffee in Cafe Crema (Yes-supporting owners) to leave behind a copy of The National, if you want to discuss your excellent road show idea/general subversion. Or might see you down The Hub sometime.
Paula Rose (@ 1:16pm)
Sorry, can’t give you a definitive answer on that either way at this moment in time, it’s not looking promising for me so far.
If it has been a WOS idea for some time why hasn’t it developed Wings (or legs)?
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YIR2 (@ 6:02pm)
One or two good suggestions floating around in there, possibly!
The Great Scottish Fuck Off!
First of the groups…only one can progress…names were selected from list of 102 using random item generator (i.e. a pen/closed eyes)
1 Anas Sarwar
2 Neil Oliver
3 Bob Geldof
4 David Dimbleby
Cast your vote here, or tweet it to me and I’ll keep a tally. It’s rough and ready, but youse are rough and I’m ready, so let’s do it!
Remember – ‘There Can Be Only One!’
@Ian Brotherhood
TGSFO
My nomination is Anas Sarwar who is also know as The Great Scottish Fuck Up…well he is Labour after all. lol
Have fabby day Mr B.
@Clapper57 –
So far, Anas Sarwar has received 100% of all votes cast (i.e. 1)
My TGSFO vote (Pot 1) = Anas Sarwar
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Please help send a message and educate the masses folks.
Go Go Indy, Indy Go Go!
Landscape – Einstein A Go Go
link to youtube.com
Sorry, folks, forgot to add the important link to my post @4:40pm
link to indiegogo.com
Ian Brotherhood:
I would like to nominate Anas Sarwar.
And if I can make a suggestion Ian,in future could you use a
pin and closed eyes.Then you will be able to tell us,which little Prick is the winner.
Peace Always
Ian B
I have ‘weighted’ all the candidates in this round,the result is as follows:
BG (__/__) DD (__/__) NO (___/___) AS (____/____)
I herby declare that Anas Sarwar gets one more vote as biggest Erse in this round.
N.B. Any resemblance to current Red/Blue Tory MSP’s is purely deliberate.
@carjamtic –
Keep your eyes peeled for some even bigger arses – plenty in the pipeline!
Stoker Honey – try and turn up – it is very difficult to move things on if folk aren’t there.
Paula, if i don’t make it it will not be for the lack of trying, lets put it that way.
@Stoker
Every little helps, make it inclusive – always the strength of YES. I forgot Italians, considering how many of them moved here in the 20s, 30s, and the part of our lives they are.
@Ian B
Neil Oliver for me, such a total lack of passion for his supposed native country, in his History of Scotland. Compare him with the pride and anger of Huw Edwards in Story of Wales. Oliver might as well have been commentating on the mating rituals of slugs.
Ian Brotherhood-my vote goes to Anas Sarwar
Might as well stick up Group 2:
1. Torquil Crichton
2 Sir James MacMillan
3 Effie Deans
4 Alan Cochrane
Same rules – only one can go on to knockout stages.
Harsh, but there it is.
Hi IanB.
Can I award 1/2 vote to Sanwar and 1/2 vote to Oliver? If not, award the whole vote to Oliver. No doubt a cry of “PISH!” will ring out above the other candidates…
Group 2’s gotta be Cockers!
My TGSFO vote (Pot 2) = Tory Quil
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A wee fanfare for the Rev – I’m currently in the process of trawling through the WOS Archives and i came across this:
link to wingsoverscotland.com
((((( HAW CAMPBELL, YER A FAILURE, LLF! )))))
‘The Great Scottish Fuck Off!’
Group 3:
1 Owen Smith
2 Tony Abbott (ex Oz PM)
3 Susan Calman
4 Jackson Carlaw
@BDTT –
Seeing as it’s you, nae borra.
Wish I could divulge who’s ‘winning’ each group right now, but that wouldn’t be fair. Besides, the groups are all on Twitter as well, and that shows updates.
Each group will be on Twitter for one day only, then I’ll add whatever was cast here and that’ll be the total.
My TGSFO vote (Pot 3) = Jackson Carlaw
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Right, back to trawling the WOS Archives!
Phew!!!
*wipes away sweat*
Must take a break from counting all these votes!
If this doesn’t make yer toes tap then, sadly, ye’re actually pan-breid:
John Martyn, ‘Jelly Roll Baker Blues’, live, 1986 –
link to youtube.com
Group 2 -Effie Deans
Group 3 -Jackson Carlaw
1: Oliver
2: Cochrane
3. Carlaw
Group 2 -Effie Deans
Group 3 -Jackson Carlaw
Slow down it says-how its an 8 word comment?
PR explained it a wee while ago Lollysmum, it’s the number of comments being posted in that given moment which generates that message, part of askimet’s filtering comments I’d imagine…nothing personal about the length of our posts.
Group 1 Neil Oliver Group 2 Torquil Crichton Group 3 Jackson Carlaw. Cheers for putting the lists up Ian B
K1
Thanks-have been out of the loop for a couple of months so must have missed the explanation.
Thought it would have been resolved by now but clearly not
What a line-up!
link to youtube.com
Ian B:
Oliver
MacMillan
Carlaw
And I hope their next bowel motion is a hedgehog.
“A pretty pitiful showing from the Scottish Labour leader, then, in a period which has seen many dramatic developments in Scottish politics you’d have thought she might want to comment on. Her last appearance was over a month ago….”
The Rev – (06.04.12) – On the disappearance of Slab branch manager Johann Lamont
So Dippy Dug’s not the only one to suddenly “disappear” off radar?
The scores on the doors
link to wingsoverscotland.com
Christy Moore – Weekend in Amsterdam link to youtube.com
Group 2 – Cochrane
Group 3 – Carlaw
I meant a star-gazing hedgehog, obvs.
((((( READ ALL ABOUT IT, READ ALL ABOUT IT )))))
Those b@$t@rd$ in the SNP are promoting jobs and the Scottish economy and they’re fookin doing it deliberately.
Meanwhile, in other news, Dippy Dug wants the ‘Yes’ word outlawed.
Too much news
link to wingsoverscotland.com
Group 2 – Alan Cochrane
Group 3 – pass. Don’t really know mcuh about the first 3, and Jackson Carlaw famously said he’d man the barricades with the SNP for currency union, so he’s a good guy. No, really! Honest guv.
1. Anas Sarwar
2. Alan Cochrane
3. Jackson Carlaw
Cheers all…scoring frantically here…
Some outright winners already, but it’s early doors…
Twittertastic too!
The Jacksons, ‘Enjoy Yourself’ –
link to youtube.com
STOP MESSING THE PLACE UP, I’m expecting visitors.
Michael McCabe:
Try Christy Moore,Danny Boy,a spoken poem.Sorry Michael,cant link.
Peace Always
@ Ian Brotherhood
1. Sarwar (Daddy’s money, sorry I mean Daddy’s boy)
2. Deans (F**KTARD)
3. Carlaw (Only ‘cos Smith is irrelevant in Scotland)
Stoker et al , I volunteer to help man the road show from Aberdeen Northwards just gies a shout.
@Stoker
Do what I can to help a roadshow in my neck of the woods, North Ayrshire. My season’s over but still work to do so I can’t promise dates but will help if I’m free. Not really available from end March to mid-Sep.
Can also help with colour laser printer, 160gsm card, laminators and guillotine for display – A4 / A5. I use Avery DesignPro 2000 which is why I’m still stuck on Windows XP for all my business stuff. A jpg will do. Got a unit and it’s got a lot of stuff in it, workbenches, racks, clutter, but I’d find some space at need, specially if it was just overnighting stalls or something. Let me know.
Oh yeah, and a wee van which is mostly empty this time of year. Takes a europallet.
yesindyref2 or anyone else in that area – I need some stuff moved up to Glasgow from Irvine on the 18th, anyone able to help?
Jockanese Wind Talker & yesindyref2
Both your offers of involvement have been noted for future reference and are very much appreciated. Would be excellent if we could manage to create a wee group of volunteers for each of the 32 Scottish council areas. A bit ambitious maybe but not impossible as a longer term goal.
Another idea to throw into the mix, PR’ need for help has just reminded me, how about setting up our own WOS van? Crowdfunded, capable of carrying billboards on the sides (similar idea as a glaziers van)? A standard Transit short wheelbase, new, with some sign writing design would cost, at a rough guestimate off the top of my head, somewhere in the region of £25,000.
@Ian Brotherhood
Difficult to choose
1 Oliver
2 Cochrane
3 Carlaw
@Stoker
Good ideas, especially like the Wings van with billboards. Would a second hand one not be better, keep the costs down so more can be spent on graphics?
TGSFO!
Group 4:
1 Gordon Brown
2 Ian Smart
3 Marie Rimmer
4 David Coburn
Group 5:
1 Bill Matthews
2 JK Rowling
3 Jackie Bird
4 Alistair Carmichael
Group 6:
1 Bamber Gascoigne
2 Alex Massie
3 Tavish Scott
4 Queen Elizabeth
@Ian Brotherhood
Group 4 Gordon Brown [oh how I loathe that creature]
5 Help me Rona Carmichael
6 Massie
1. Brown
2. Carmichael
3. Massie
Group 4 Gordon Brown Group 5 Alistair Carmichael Group 6 Queen Elizabeth.
G4 – GB
G5 – JKR
G6 – AM
Love to wipe the smirk off her napper,close call,but dislike bullies even more.
Brown
Carmichael
Massie
*shudders, washes hands*
*Marker for self – all counted to here…*
It’s going a bit mental on Twitter – 100s of votes pouring in! And that’s with only 6 of the 26 1st-round groups posted…michty me!
Alex
Bamber was OK.
Still hear Bamber Gasgoine superimposed over Jeremy Belluman in the University Challenge programme intro every week.
Nana, not really because (a):We have an image to maintain and (b): A second-hand van would most probably be a false economy in the longer term, not to mention unreliable, by the time we pay for ongoing repairs and replacement parts, more fuel usage, getting it fit for the road, more insurance possibly etc etc. Thanks for the suggestion though, every idea helps us progress.
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My TGSFO votes for pots 4, 5 and 6 are as follows:
4 = Gordon Brown
5 = Alistair Carmichael
6 = Queen Elizabeth
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BTW, my own top 5 preferences for a Great Scottish Fuck Off:
1 = Westminster
2 = WMD
3 = The BBC
4 = The HoL
5 = The Monarchy
4. Gordon Brown
5. Alistair Carmichael
6. Queen Elizabeth
TGSFO!
The first result:
Neil Oliver wins Group 1 with 62 Twitter votes and 6 WOS votes = 68.
He got 47% of Tweeted votes.
Anas Sarwar was 2nd, with 24% of Tweets and 7 WOS votes
Bob Geldof got 19% of Tweets, no WOS votes
David Dimbleby 10% of Tweets, no WOS votes
Convincing victory for Neil Oliver!
Ian, (G1), see if that changes in a few months time when Sarwar starts pushing for Dippy’s joab and he’s never off the front pages.
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Nana, on second thoughts, you might just have the better suggestion. I tried to catch 40-winks but my wheels wouldn’t stop turning because of you, so if yer right ears burning you can blame me.
I’m thinking that one van, from a practical point of view, would not be sufficient but what if we tried to crowdfund 3 vans at £10k budget/fund per van?
One to serve the Highlands & Islands, one to serve the central belt and one to serve the border regions with all 3 vans being on call to help each other out if need be?
Mind you it would depend on several factors for this to work, especially getting the backing of most, if not all, Wingers. We would also need the go-ahead from the Rev. We would need 3 volunteers to take responsibility for the vans, ie; running, maintaining, insuring and driving them etc.
I think i also got a bit carried away with suggesting having the van with WOS sign/logo. On further contemplation i think that would be a mistake and open the vans up to being targets for knuckledraggers, not to mention having a negative impact on any insurance. Better they be unmarked but still possibly with the billboard capacity?
Anyway, just throwing some ideas out there for dissection and consideration.
@Stoker
Been out for the day just seeing your comment.
I like the thought of more than one van, but the costs might be too high what with insurance and every other thing a motor costs.
Certainly the damage to a ‘wings’ vehicle could be a worry what with all the loony yoons about.
It’s difficult coming up with ideas for getting the message out. I thought the old fashioned loud hailers on top of cars were pretty good, sure made me stop and listen.
Stoker:
Have you thought about leasing vans?
Just a thought.
Plenty of places to choose from!
Peace Always
Brown
Carmichael
Massie
TGSFO!
Group 7:
1 Dan Snow
2 Jack McConnell
3 John Barrowman
4 Jim Murphy
Group 8:
1 Oliver Mundell
2 Murdo Fraser
3 Sarah Smith
4 Paul Dacre
Group 9:
1 Alex Johnstone
2 Michael Forsyth
3 Tom Harris
4 Chris Deerin
G7 – DS
G8 – MF
G9 – TH
A lot harder than you think,in some cases a 3 way photo finish (donkey Derby ?)
Group 7 Jim Murphy Group 8 Paul Dacre Group 9 Michael Forsyth. Keep Up the Good Work Ian B
Hi guys,
Can you help me?
I was trying to search for some of the informative posts by Robert Peffers on Scottish sovereignty and constitutional issues for someone. I know I should have copied them at the time. Can you tell me of the best ways to search for them?
Thanks for your help.
1. Murphy
2. Fraser
3. Forsyth (now there’s a creep from our past that needs telt)
@Stoker
You might want to speak to Lindsay Bruce (@RogueCoder250). I had a brief discussion with him on twitter the other night about the cost of postage for AyeMail. Briefly discussed some sort of distribution, perhaps through Yes hubs. Maybe the van idea could fit into that model.
1. Sarawak
2. Deans
3. Carlaw
4. Brown
5. Bird
6. Queenie
7. Murphy
8. Dacre
9. Johnstone
@Ealasaid
Try just searching with google something along the lines of:
wings over scotland “robert peffers” “Scottish sovereignty”
Should get you to what you are looking for.
Thanks for that X_Sticks.
I knew it was possible to search somewhere, but thought it was on WOS.
Many thanks again.
Nana
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Smallaxe
Certainly would be a far cheaper option but cross border insurance and recovery costs on rentals are either astronomical or non existent. You also have the serious problem of not being guaranteed a rental when we need it due to all vehicles being leased, mostly on pre existing contracts etc. Cheaper, Yes, but a bit hit and miss. Still, it’s a worthwhile suggestion. Thanks!
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X_Sticks
That’s the very thing i had in mind, moving WOS materials and anything else we need shifting around the country. Even going to help those footsoldiers out in the rural parts with their door to door deliveries. Basically anything WOS related. Could even be used for picking his nibs up if he wanted a trip up the road.
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Well, i’m off to watch a couple or three films on Netflix, i’ve been doing too much thinking, i’m surprised you can’t smell the burning.
Oh, before i go:
7 = Murphy
8 = Mundell
9 = Forsyth
Barrowman
Smith
Johnstone
Aliens all.
Stoker:
No problem,thank for your reply.
Peace Always
Murphy
Fraser
Johnstone
7. Jack McConnell
8. Paul Dacre
9. Michael Forsyth
‘The Great Scottish Fuck Off!’
Results: %=Twitter, (WOS votes)
Group 2:
Effie Deans 49% (3)
Sir James MacMillan 18% (1)
Alan Cochrane 17% (7)
Torquil Crichton 16% (2)
Group 3:
Jackson Carlaw 49% (9)
Owen Smith 29% (0)
Susan Calman 14% (0)
Tony Abbott 8% (0)
Powerful results for Deans and Carlaw there, in strong-ish groups. Scriveners and luvvies not registering anticipated opprobrium. Poignantly poor returns for the fading Cochrane.
Aye, okay, let the BBC have Glasgow Green for the nicht so’s they can pretend it’s a UKOK classical consensus.
They won’t dare come anywhere near the Green next week, eh?
Been a wee while since we had this:
Hamish Mccunn, ‘Land Of The Mountain & The Flood’ –
link to youtube.com
G4 – Brown
G5 – Carmichael
G6 – Massie
G7 Pass
G8 – Mundell
G9 – Harris
@Paula
I think I’d be able to help. Got a messy job on wellies, spiders ‘n that, but probably finished Tues/Wed, hoovered and cleaned inside anyway. Maybe even a wash, and I might get the van done as well.
@ Stoker Why vans commercial insurance would be a killer. Why not Box Trailers with Magnetic signage , they would be ideal for transporting merchandise.
@Paula
Ah, light dawns, next Sunday, Glasgow Green. Well why not? I was considering coming anyway, anywhere to park?
BDTT’s got my email addy, I’m a bit careful with it, unionist customers for my normal business. I’ll have to set up another gmail one when I’ve time.
@ Nanna & Stoker
How about first putting together Wing’s (don’t know the correct term) “thing’s for lot’s of our own car’s,which would serve two purposes.
Firstly there would/could be lot’s of car’s with these logo’s therefore the actual Wing’s vehicle’s wouldn’t be so identifiable,to target.
Secondly the fund’s that the sale of the (now being advised they are called decals???) Car “Thingys” generate could be used to help fund the running costs of the vehicles.
Just throwing a thought or two in !!!
OMG just thought of Lollysmums new neighbours reaction to a Wing’s Over Scotland car on her driveway!!!!
@onnie anderson
Box trailer’s a great idea, no need to register, insure or have a named driver, just a tow bar (which I don’t have), and a spare number plate for the tower. Pretty cheap online.
Not sure how it’d work on ferries for the islands, might be able to drive it on one end and unhitch, get someone to pick it up the other – seen that done a lotm=, no idea how it gets booked (by phone probably!).
So a box trailer van (jockey wheel I think it’s called).
Mmm, maybe even get one with a window / hatch, then it’s an event van as well.
@yesindyref2 –
Pass?
Pass?!?
My sophisticated polling system – developed over many minutes – makes now allowances for ‘passes’.
Come on – John, Jim, Jack or Dan!
Please don’t fuck-up the whole ‘Great Scottish Fuck Off!’ fucking thing!
Then I’ll have to start it all over again…
And that’d be enough to make anyone curse!
;(
@IanB
ROFL. Well, seen Wingers post about Snow but never heard of him, there’s hope for McConnell and Murphy (he makes me laugh), so it has to be Barrowman, a Scot of Convenience, kind of like the Panama flag used to be.
G7 – Barrowman
@yesindyref2 –
Many thanks.
I can hit the sack now, peacefully, knowing the system remains intact.
There’s a long way to go, but that single vote for the bold Barrow-man could make all the difference…
We shall see.
Hoots!
@IanB
I used to watch whatever it was called, but he always struck me as wanting the whole world to revolve around him. The sort of egotistical guy who would answer “pass” to a mutliple choice question with 4 possible answers.
Oh.
Are we there yet?
Are we nearly there yet?
Ronnie Anderson wrote:
” Why not Box Trailers with Magnetic signage , they would be ideal for transporting merchandise.”
Brilliant idea Ronnie, especially combined with liz g’ sticker ideas. Some good food for thought!
Box trailers and WOS decals (btw liz, your informant is correct).
Sounds like a plan at a fraction of the costs. What say folk?
YEEEEEAAH! I’ve done it, it’s only took me 2 years but i’ve got top billing on a new O/T page. Hmmm, talk about feeling deflated!
Liz g wrote:
“OMG just thought of Lollysmums new neighbours reaction to a Wing’s Over Scotland car on her driveway!!!!”
Now, there’s a Winger (can’t remember the persons ID but someone will know) who has a car absolutely plastered in WOS, Newsnet etc etc logo’s.
It would be rather rude of us not to send that Winger on a formal ‘Welcome to Scotland’ visit to oor Lollysmum’s, wouldn’t it?
A sort of caring welcome on behalf of her extended family, eh?
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink!
btw, That wee smiley thing doesn’t do justice to the huge grin i’ve got on my face right now at the thought of that car sitting proudly outside oor Lollysmum’s. MWHAHAHAHAhahahahaha
Calm down Stoker Dear – you’ll do yourself a mischief.
Hi Stoker.
You typed,
“Now, there’s a Winger (can’t remember the persons ID but someone will know) who has a car absolutely plastered in WOS, Newsnet etc etc logo’s. “
That’ll be Wee Jonny. He runs a glass wall hygiene business. Perchance Lollysmum could book his services?
link to sites.google.com
Hi Brian, that’s the very one, thank you!
Jonny, fancy a wee joab?
TGSFO!
Results:
Group 4 %Twitter (WOS)
1 Gordon Brown 60% (9)
2 David Coburn 19% (0)
3 Ian Smart 18% (0)
4 Marie Rimmer 3% (0)
Group 5
1 JK Rowling 44% (1)
2 Alistair Carmichael 28% (7)
3 Jackie Bird 27% (1)
4 Bill Matthews 1% (0)
Group 6
1 Queen Elizabeth 47% (4)
2 Alex Massie 32% (5)
3 Tavish Scott 18% (0)
4 Bamber Gascoigne 3% (0)
Brown storms through to Round Two with strongest performance yet.
YIR2 wrote:
“Box trailer’s a great idea, no need to register, insure or have a named driver, just a tow bar (which I don’t have), and a spare number plate for the tower. Pretty cheap online.”
“Not sure how it’d work on ferries for the islands, might be able to drive it on one end and unhitch, get someone to pick it up the other – seen that done a lot, no idea how it gets booked (by phone probably!).”
Anything to do with the ferries has to be arranged via contacting the office at the intended port of departure, EG; if you intend on going over to Bute you have to make the arrangements via the Colintraive office or Wemyss Bay office, whatever route you plan on taking.
I’m assuming you are talking, for now, about Cal Mac routes. If that is the case then as far as i know they charge by the length (or combined length) of car & trailer.
Anything commercial also has to be pre booked in advance and you must turn up a certain amount of time prior to your intended boarding time. At least that’s how i remember it, things may have changed.
You also wrote:
“a box trailer van (jockey wheel I think it’s called). Mmm, maybe even get one with a window / hatch, then it’s an event van as well.”
What exactly do you mean? Catering van? Burgers etc?
TGSFO!
Group 10
1 Jack Straw
2 Muriel Gray
3 Frances Barber
4 Jim Hood
Group 11
1 Tim Farron
2 Neil Findlay
3 John Reid
4 Margaret Curran
Group 12
1 Johanna Baxter
2 George Robertson
3 James Naughtie
4 Eddie Izzard
G10 – MG
G11 – NF
G12 – GR
Here’s one for all the BritNat haters of Scotland.
Brain Damage – Hurtful Dub (Show Me a Purpose Versions)
link to youtube.com
Here’s one for all the BritNat haters of Scotland.
Brain Damage – Hurtful Dub (Show Me a Purpose Versions)
link to youtube.com
@ Ian Brothergood – TGSFO
Group 10 – Frances Barber
Group 11 – John Reid
Group 12 – George Robertson
@ Ian Brotherhood
Freudian typo slip in my previous post I typed your surname as ‘BrotherGood’….sounds good to me.
Have fabby day
10. Straw
11. Curran
12. Robertson
10. Jack Straw
11. Margaret Curran
12. George Robertson
Group 10 Jim Hood Group 11 Margaret Curran Group 12 George Robertson
I could have sworn a guy sung this. Mind You. Evertbody’s Changing
Sorry here is the Link. link to youtube.com
Latest Group results:
% Twitter, (WOS votes)
Group 7
1 Jim Murphy 45% (4)
2 Dan Snow 39% (1)
3 John Barrowman 11% (2)
4 Jack McConnell 5% (1)
Group 8
1 Murdo Fraser 55% (2)
2 Oliver Mundell 18% (2)
3 Sarah Smith 16% (1)
4 Paul Dacre 11% (3)
Group 9
1 Chris Deerin 34% (0)
2 Michael Forsyth 28% (3)
3 Tom Harris 26% (2)
4 Alex Johnstone 12% (3)
This TGSFO round of voting is the hardest yet, so many worthies!
10 = Hood
11 = Curran
12 = Robertson
Sick ah canny vote furr Gray & Findlay annawe!
TGSFO!
Final batch of groups to wrap up the weekend and get us almost halfway through the First Round.
Some proper corkers in here – ain’t gettin’ any easier!
Group 13
1 Ian Davidson
2 Anne Begg
3 Laura Kuennsberg
4 Michael White
Group 14
1 Severin Carrell
2 David Mundell
3 Andrew Marr
4 Kaye Adams
Group 15
1 Euan McColm
2 Willie Rennie
3 Sir Nicholas McPherson
4 Eleanor Bradford
13. Ian Davidson
14. David Mundell
15. Sir Nicholas McPherson
G13 – LK
G14 – KA
G15 – SNM
“ain’t gettin’ any easier!” – No shit, Sherlock!
I’ve just realised i’ve made a boo boo with group 8, oh well!
13 = Kuennsberg
14 = Marr
15 = Bradford
You’ve a lot to answer for Mr.B
PUT YOUR VOTING SLIPS IN THE BIN! Stop leaving them lying about please.
Gray
Curran
Robertson
Davidson
Adams
McColm
Gray
Reid
Robertson
Kuenssssssssssberg
Carrell
Bradford
FFS: you’re posting too quick!
It might help if you put a LINER in the bin.
Fanx.
And oblige Tinto Chiel.
Gray
Curran
Naughtie
Kuennsberg
Adams
Bradford
Blimey its the cast of a horror movie
A liner for paper – don’t be silly.
Paula R: I know you’re a lady and all that but take a closer look.
On second thoughts, don’t.
No wonder Nana walked out.
Do I have to be specific?
Snot rags spread diseases!
Jeez!
@Paula Rose & Tinto Chiel
I’ve spent the last while looking for a sketch by a comedian my mum took me to see when I was but a lass. He used to portray an old wifey who kept house for the local minister, a right messy cratur. Reading your exchanges on here for some reason made me think of this sketch.
I believe there are recordings but sadly no film footage.
You can read about him here link to hebrideanconnections.com
The caileach was indeed a legend.
FLUSH
Group 13 Ian Davidson Group 14 David Mundell Group 15 Sir Nicholas Mcpherson (AKA the Weasels) Doing a grand job Ian B
Jeezo, Nana, that’s my cover blown.
See you wise women, you’re a bloody menace.
I coulda been a contender!
And wipe your feet on the way out.
@ Tinto Chiel-8:44pm The Contender. link to youtube.com
Michael: that was much too beautiful for my silly throwaway remark. Great stuff. Thanks.
This is my song for Paula Rose. Get those Marigolds on, milady.
link to m.youtube.com
@ Paula Rose. Sorry if we have left a mess. But dinnae Kick me out. I have Nowhere else to go tonight. link to youtube.com
13. Davidson
14. Carrell.
15 Bradford (plus a wild card for McColm.)
Oh and while Nana is in the Vicinity(I think she likes Guitarists) Have you heard of these Two. link to youtube.com
I see Brian Wilson hasn’t appeared in any group yet…good…whatever group he is in my vote for him is hereby prebooked!
@Michael McCabe
That was good Michael, you always choose great tunes.
Here’s two of my favourite guitarists, difficult choosing from a very long list.
link to youtube.com
Forgot to answer your question Michael. Yes I have certainly heard of Ford, thin he’s on one of the Crossroads videos.
If you like guitar tunes you should get the boxsets, you will not be disappointed.
Great stuff
link to youtube.com
@K1 –
Wilson’s in there, nae danger…
He’s in one of the final groups, should make an appearance Wed/Thu.
Can’t say too much, but he’s in one of the toughest groups, if not THE toughest – serious chance he may not make it through to Round 2…
;(
Do I have to spell it out – it is so lovely to have you all visit *makes more sandwiches*
@Paula Rose –
Sorry for all the mess.
Please have a wee gander at this Joan Eardley painting:
link to google.co.uk
This is for Smallaxe, who mentioned the lyrics of one of the tracks involved at 6.58am on Sunday morning. As usual, (nowadays) it’s taking me hours to keep up with all the btl comments.
Onnyhoo, this was one of the first mashups I did, around 1974, when I awarded myself an Akai 4 track stereo tape deck.
link to youtube.com
IAN Honey you are totally fprgiven – I will always clear up when you make one of your wee messes.
Nana & Michael: Guitar players,
I can’t link but have a listen to Jack Bruce & Rory Gallagher
playing”Politician” on YouTube.
Peace Always
Brian Doonthetoon.
A Cracker Brian, I see,like myself that you appreciate the
subtle nuances of this beautiful song.Did you happen to catch
my duet earlier this morning with the lovely Siobhan McFadyen?
Hi Smallaxe.
Knowing of your interest in the Scottish music scene, I thought this may interest you – one of the more obscure stories from the scene but backed up by links.
link to sites.google.com
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BTW: Anyone else noticed that the Rev’s Twitter account has been suspended? Here’s what I got when I refreshed the tab just now:-
“Account suspended
This account has been suspended. Learn more about why Twitter suspends accounts, or return to your timeline.”
Brian Doonthetoon,thanks for the link Brian,I’m going to sit
and have a good read at it now. I will get back to you in the
morning and let you know what I think.
Re,Twitter saw someone on the main thread complaining about
the same thing.Thanks again.
Peace Always
Copying this from the main thread:
I’m also seeing on Twitter that the @WingsScotland account is suspended.
Stuart also has another, more personal, Twitter account, @RevStu . Worth checking that out for now.
He may need to use it more frequently from now on for regular Wings business, at least until the main account is back up and running.
Nasty business from the MSM, WM, unionist, dirty tricks brigade. But they cannot silence us all. This will backfire on them.
Ahem…is there any possibility that we can skip through all the GSFO group rounds and just establish that the Express’s McFadyen has actually come up from behind and won the fucking thing?
K1 exactamundo fundilymundily.
Smallaxe, I know most of our attention is on the Twitter situation, but mts that if you get out to Strathaven and the Wilson monument, take a look at the war memorial on the hill above and behind.
It has a great view of Tinto to the SE and Loudoun Hill to the SW. The memorial is, I think, the only one in Scotland to include the serviceman’s address (happy to be corrected about that).
Hope you are keeping well.
K1: gets my vote too. As old Bugs used to say, “What a maroon!”
I’m hoping she gets charged for a Public Order offence, myself.
Oh, the irony of that.
Tinto Chiel,
My daughter and grandson went to the top of Tinto in July this
year and they tell me it was beautiful.I will try to get there
this year,if the weather holds,and have a look for myself.
Re,you know who, I agree with yourself and K1.Its a pity she
could not be charged with having an offensive Face.
Peace Always
K1 haud yer horses….Martha Lane Fox…Director Twitter….on Guardian’s 200 signature list…..against Scottish Indy.
TGTF….a nation waits….;-)
#followthemoney
Paula Rose
Paula, looks like I can make it to Brechin tomorrow, can you confirm the venue and time please.
Anybody else from Glenrothes or Dundee need a lift. I won’t be able to hang around afterwards as I need to be back in Fife 11:00 ish.
chasanderson200 the venue is the Caledonian Hotel, Southesk Street, Brechin DD9 6DZ – doors open from 7, Paul will be speaking shortly after 8. He is also speaking in North Fife in Tayport the following evening.
Thanks Paula
I’ve made the arrangements for Brechin now so I shall just stick to them.
It’ll be much better in the city of Brechin rather than a little town like Tayport.
Paula Rose, sorry to interrupt but there’s no piccalilli for the sandwiches and that Ian Brotherhood may pop in later.
I’m a lime pickle and popadoms myself.
We need Nana back for a wee bit strupag. Her rock cakes are magnificent.
link to m.youtube.com
There’s some of my special plum pickle in the fridge.
Paula Rose: that’s a goer. Take it all back.
Sorry I snapped.
Stoker & Liz g
Now I see why my ears were burning. Give me a few weeks & my own car will have its own indy & wings stickers/decals etc. Need to do the basics like getting curtain rails & curtains up in the house first then I can concentrate on the psychological meltdown of my neighbours
Lots of time to plan *laughs maniacally*
In the meantime I hope I’ll see some of you at Glasgow Green on Sunday
Hi Smallaxe.
Did you get round to reading about Dundee’s ‘musical’ legend?
Am I too late to vote?
13. Ian Davidson
14. David Mundell
15. Sir Nicholas McPherson
@Stoker
You see quite a lot on Calmac ferries people driving on with a trailer and driving off leaving trailer behind, so presumably there’s just a charge then for the trailer. No idea if all routes do it, or even if it’s official. But particularly big lorries do it all the time, Mundell for instance, and you see farmers with sheep trailers dumping them.
Yes, like a burger trailer, but the hatch / counter could be used for leaflets etc.
The Wings Tour Bus.. something like this Stoker:
link to youtube.com
Might need a paint job though!
Brian Doonthetoon,
Hi Brian,Sorry for the late response, I had to have the doctor
in this morning (chest infection) my wife has it as well.
Anyhoo,enjoying it immensely just a few links to go!
I have been sleeping most of the day, I think the doc.slipped
us a Mickey.We must get rid of this before the 18th as we’re both determined to attend.I will definitely be looking out for
you my friend,for a good old natter
Brian Doonthetoon,
Sorry must be the medication, I forgot to say.
Peace and Love Brian, and to those you Love
@Paula
I can do a one way on Sunday (either way), got an order to get out Monday.
Just found my dedicated email web server domain name expired 3 days ago hence no emails from me. Luckily only affects sending, not receiving, hence why I didn’t notice (too busy). Ah well, soon mended. Later though!
Stoker:
Advertisers are:
Nationwide Insurance
British Airways
Sainsburys (Full Page Advert)
RAC
Hugh James Solicitors
Thomson Cruises (Full Page Advert)
Renault
Irwin Mitchell Solicitors
HSBC
DFS
Vauxhall
Liverpool Victoria
Vitabiotics
Monarch
SSE
Acorn Stairlifts
Payingtoomuch(dot)com
Slater Gordon Solutions Legal Ltd
ROL Cruises (readeroffers ltd) (Full Page Advert)
GN Voyages
Newmarket Air Holidays Ltd
Sunlife (AXA Wealth Services Ltd)
Amlion.com
Specsavers (2 x Half Page Adverts)
Riviera Travel
Aquability
Autochair(dot)co(dot)uk
Ultroid Clinics
Imagine Cruising(dot)co(dot)uk (Full Page Advert)
Fred Olsen Cruise Lines
Invisible Health Care(Full Page Advert)
Serious Injury Helpline (BBL Legal)
Subway
facebook(dot)com(back slash)mouthy money
PPI Claimback(dot)co(dot)uk
Moveanyproperties(dot)com
HSL Chairs (Full Page Advert)
BT Sport (2 x Half Page Adverts)
Biggest advertiser by far is the Health Lottery (4 x adverts a Full Page one, and a couple of half page ones).
I’m pretty owner is the same as the Rag in question.
yesindyref2 have it sorted now – thanks.
Jockanese Wind Talker
Quite a comprehensive list there, i’ll get back to you on it as i’m just about to grab a bite to eat. Well done btw and thanks!
Thanks also must go to Ms Sobbin McFudyin
link to archive.is
Your rep goes further down the stank as our popularity grows.
Oh my!
I am by no stretch a legal expert, however my belief is that for a newspaper or anyone else to bring a successful action for damages to reputation it has to be established that malicious intent and actual monetary damage was committed and that the claims were untrue.
Again, emphasising my lack of knowledge, I’d say you could be on a sticky wicket with the first two criteria in this scenario and that therefore it would be advisable that any claims made to said advertisers would have to be true and demonstrably so.
I may be entirely wrong on this, but felt if I said nothing and fellow Wingers did get done then I would feel guilty for not having spoken up.
Hopefully someone with more knowledge can either confirm or allay such fears.
Does anyone know the deal with the rally on 18th?
We at English Scots have been offered a speaking slot and we want a stall. But we don’t know where to put it. Anyone know the organizers phone no? I’ve only got a email address and they don’t respond quickly!
Also anyone got a wee gazebo we could borrow?
Math – DM me on twitter or by email.
Chic McGregor (11:30am)
Nor am i any sort of legal expert but the way i operate is covered by the ECHR and as long as we stick within the boundaries we are perfectly safe, it’s cover by several ECHR articles but the main one being Freedom of Expression.
_____
Jockanese Wind Talker (10:31am)
Once again, that’s a very good list you’ve supplied us with. Just glancing through it i can see several easy targets where one can cancel their contracts.
State clearly why you are doing it, ie; That you don’t agree with your custom being used to finance and promote cheap shoddy hate filled lying articles nor to help employ those who write the articles, either in the printed or online publications.
Then give them one or two linked articles from WOS as a reference. Thank you very much but i’ll take my custom elsewhere. Yours Etc!
JWT, i’m away to do some outside chores and enjoy that wee bit of sunshine, i’ll check back in later. Going for the advertisers is a power we have at our disposal, let’s use it to the max folks!
A wee thought, would it have more clout if we actually targeted those advertisers who appear alongside McFudyin’s scribbles?
TGSFO!
Latest results
% is Twitter votes, then (WOS votes)
Group 10
1 Muriel Gray 44% (4)
2 Frances Barber 39% (1)
3 Jack Straw 13% (2)
4 Jim Hood 4% (2)
Group 11
1 Margaret Curran 45% (6)
2 Neil Findlay 22% (1)
3 John Reid 19% (2)
4 Tim Farron 14% (0)
Group 12
1 Eddie Izzard 46% (0)
2 George Robertson 36% (8)
3 James Naughtie 11% (1)
4 Johanna Baxter 7% (0)
Group 13
1 Laura Kuennsberg 55% (4)
2 Ian Davidson 26% (5)
3 Michael White 11% (0)
4 Anne Begg 8% (0)
Group 14
1 Kaye Adams 45% (3)
2 David Mundell 38% (3)
3 Andrew Marr 11% (1)
4 Severin Carrell 6% (2)
Group 15
1 Euan McColm 44% (1)
2 Willie Rennie 31% (0)
3 Eleanor Bradford 18% (4)
4 Sir Nicholas McPherson 7% (4)
16. George Foulkes (don’t forget he coined the phrase Cybernat)
17. Danny Alexander
18. Ruth Davidson
@Paula Rose –
Okay, I’ll bite…
Whose plums did you use?
*keep hearing Patrick McGoohan as Longshanks ‘…next time it could be MY plums in Paula’s pickles…’*
@Ian Brotherhood
Sorry pal, is it no possible to stick them all into one big group and tell them all to FUCK OFF?
Just asking, like.
This weekend I’ll post the whole list here and re-open nominations so that we can cover some very VERY obvious omissions.
It’ll be a good chance to tell them whole lot of them where to go, if you feel so inclined!
Hehehe get it on twitter Ian, that’s smart. Can’t wait to find out the “winner” hahaha.
Here a thought..
Imagine throughout Scotland in every island, village, town and city.. ever area had their very own “Yes-100” group’s..
Imagine each of all of these one hundred Scots clubbing and coming together with their own local ideas, to make a collective difference. Anything’s possible. Crowdfunding sounds popular.. you could do a lottery.
Hi..
We’re the Glasgow City 100
We’re the Isle of Arran 100
We’re the Millport 100
We’re the Brechin 100
We’re the Dundee East 100
We’re the Morningside 100
We’re the Larkhall West 100
We’re the Shetland 100
We’re the Oban 100
We’re the Wick 100
Hey, pleased to meet you.
You know the history and the rest of the story..
18.09.16
We own the number one hundred.
Please form orderly queues, ten by ten will do.
Hi..
We’re the Arbroath 100.
Aye aye, pleased to meet you.
X x X = C
C x ? = lots of Scots
A wee shy hello to you all… *waves*
@Stoker
Something I’m thinking about the box trailer if crowdfunded, is that anyone who needs a tow bar fitted should also be done out of the fund. That’s not me angling for one – my van’s too old and it’d be a waste.
Also fuel used should be paid, we’re not all independently wealthy!
Cactus 12:00 am
Yes then we will decimate the opposition.
I’ll get my coat!
Well said Andrew McLean an yer coat’s mighty fine where it be, cheers
A confident welcome to you too Politicaiicious @ 1:38am above.
Politicaiicious hi Honey – you need to get yourself one of those pretty gravatar thingies – I can’t remember how to do it, can any of you lot help out?
@ Cattus… Thank you!
@ Paula… Hi cutie pie! I do indeed, but I don’t have an ‘account’. I keep having to post individual comments using my email.
Is their a place somewhere on this site to register an account, then create an avatar? Or am I being stupid (more likely)?
What are line breaks – Stu talks about them in the rules?
Opps there* (dies of shame at typo)
Hi Politicaiicious.
http://www.gravatar.com
Thank you Brian, off to look now… :))))
Avatar Test
Though,only a rocking horse-dealers,daughter
She ‘Expressed’ her delight,
As she plotted the fight,
and the culling of the European otter.
She ‘reporterdly’ typed,
Her daily shite,
‘Not….in my Ring of Whitewater’
The Rotter.
TGSFO!
Wingers have stopped voting, or are doing so via Twitter, so just the Twitting %s here in latest results:
Group 16
1 George Foulkes 46%
2 Kevin Hague 24%
3 Liam Fox 23%
4 Jeremy Corbyn 7%
G17
1 Piers Morgan 37%
2 Steven Daisley 33%
3 Danny Alexander 23%
4 Brian Taylor 4%
G18
1 Ruth Davidson 67%
2 Brian Spanner 28%
3 Clare Lally 5%
4 Hugh Pennington 0%
G19
1 Andrew Neil 44%
2 Duncan Hothersall 40%
3 Kezia Dugdale 11%
4 David Leask 5%
G20
1 Michelle Mone 85%
2 Rory Stewart 8%
3 Gordon Brewer 6%
4 David Hamilton 1%
G21
1 Jackie Baillie 60%
2 Kelvin Mackenzie 29%
3 Tom Gallagher 8%
4 Ming Campbell 3%
If people are getting fed-up with this, tough.
I’ve started, so I’ll finish, and everyone who made a nomination deserves to see how they’ll fare in an open vote. The Hothersall himself turned up last night on my Twitter, kidding-on he wasn’t sure what it was all about.
Well, what it’s about is proving a very very mild antidote to the hysterical pish many of our compatriots are mesmerised by 24/7. I’m not daft enough to think that a cheap stunt like this is going to make one iota of difference to anything, but if it makes anyone think twice about the role of ‘celebrities’ and career politicos in crucial discourse determining the future of our weans then it’ll be worthwhile.
Unfortunately, this can’t go on indefinitely, but it’s a long way from over – still another four, maybe half dozen 1st-round groups, then a draw for the 2nd round, consolation draw, and the finals week-end after next.
Full list of winners, and a brief window for more nominations coming up – probs this Friday eve.
Hoots all!
@Ian
It’s obvious you are on a mission, a labour of love, even. Bet you’re wishing you hadn’t started it
BTW I voted on twitter ’cause it wasn’t on here!
Hi IanB.
Your mention of “Piers Morgan” reminded me of this…
Rev Stu produced a poster, late Summer 2014. I altered it slightly, by adding in a Piers Morgan quote – in red, at the foot of the quotes on the right hand side.
We had it on display at various Team YES Bus events at City Square, just prior to the Referendum vote.
link to sites.google.com
PS: I also changed the whisky names (just for fun) but I think that was a tad subtle…
8=)
@X-Sticks –
You’re right man, I’m ploughing on. Just wish I’d timed it better so’s it would coincide with the actual climax of that shite on the box, but that runs on for yonks.
Ach, it’s futile, but at least it does force us to remember some of the characters we’ve been up against these past few years. I just hadn’t realised how many of them there are.
Having said that, it’s not long since I got into the whole Twitter thing, and that’s just astonishing – there are so many of us, but you don’t realise it until you have to look at each and every name, consider whether or not you want to ‘follow’. I just check what followers they already have, and if there are familiar names, fair do’s, click and that’s that, but ALL of these folk are probably every bit as committed as us right here, and many even more so, for a whole raft of reasons.
Here’s hoping next Sunday’s nice weather-wise, and that as many as possible of ‘us’ make it to The Green. Fingers crossed!!
@BDTT –
Brian, you’ve known me long enough via here, and we’ve met a good few times now. You know I’m quite a laid-back, non-confrontational type…
But when it comes to that guy?
Short of devilishly complex allegories, there is nothing I could write about Piers Morgan that would not be actionable.
@Ian Brotherhood
Gemmes a Bogey – Rigged from the start. The final will be a penalty shootout.
Siobhan McBadyin Vs the ‘Great British Whatever’
I’m still a bit full of wonder – not only did I have the wondrous Wee Ginger Dug speaking as arranged in Brechin, the wonderful X_Sticks was there as well – I was touched by your presence Dear…
link to youtube.com
Watched a report on Channel4 news earlier on the Sleaford Mods.
They did a song about New Labour that didn’t go down at all well and have been blacklisted from voting in the leadership contest.
Anyway, never heard of them and decided to check them out on utube.
They’re a strange duo but I found this interesting clip by way of a Christmas message to them from 2014. There’s a few juicy bits on Clegg and UKIP I didn’t know about either. Worth a nosey.
link to tinyurl.com
Oops
link to tinyurl.com
“Wings Over Scotland ?@WingsScotland 27m27 minutes ago
Nobody knows what the last thing to still be rationed after WW2 was. Readers?”
I’m pretty sure it was sugar…
Ignore my last comment.
Sugar (and sweets) was Selwyn-Lloyd…
Bed for me.
Egss I think.
Jeez…it was meat, it’s on his twitter guys!
(Can’t actually believe I’m following his Bullseye show on twitter…bloody brilliant…one hunnndrrred and Eighteee!)
K1:
I found out where you are on the list,see Sorry,Boys!
K1:
Meant”Sorry Guys”
Peace Always ALLWAYS
Hi peeps.
I posted this on the “Heads they win…” thread this morning just before 11 but it seems to have been skipped over by all.
The post was in answer to all the comments last night about lack of publicity for Sunday’s Glasgow Green event.
The first link in it should be bookmarked by all and checked daily for updates.
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The problem with publicity for organised events is when the organisers ONLY advertise on Facebook or Twitter.
Not everyone uses these platforms so organisers are depending on word-of-mouth getting the message out.
Most people, nowadays, have internet access so it would make sense to have a web site that anyone can access. The strange thing is, such a web site has existed since before the 2014 referendum.
It’s a wee bit clunky to use but the info is there.
link to indyscot.info
Use the arrows at left and right (in front of the Forth Bridge) to scroll through the events posted. Both HOF on Saturday and Yes Movement (Glasgow Green) on Sunday are featured. The info re Sunday is found by clicking on the ‘read more…’ link. Still showing a 12 noon start so hasn’t been updated to show 2pm.
link to indyscot.info
This is the site that needs used and advertised, for people who will not use Facebook or Twitter.
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BTW: the info about Sunday has been there since just after the “All Under One Banner” march at the end of July. Seems obvious that the word needs spread about the existence of the web site.
Seems I missed out a batch of TGSFO Groups here.
Sorry.
These are the groups still open for voting:
G22
Blair McDougall
Jill Stephenson
Barack Obama
Manuel Barroso
G23
Alistair Darling
George Galloway
Ken McQuarrie
James Cook
G24
Katie Hopkins
Alberto Costa
Johann Lamont
Alex Gallagher
G25
Brian Wilson
Neil Lovatt
Terry Kelly
Niall Ferguson
G26
Glen Campbell
Loki
Ian Murray
James Kelly
G27
Alex Rowley
Ian Duncan Smith
Adam Tomkins
Siobhan McFadyen
Brian Doonthetoon:
Caught your post this morning Brian and your right in all you
say, I don’t do Twitter or Facebook but my wife does,she is
posting your link on Facebook as I write.Everyone,who knows
someone who uses f/b or Twitter should ask them to do the same.
Will be back in touch later Brian re’ Johnny Duckworth!
Jill Stephenson
Alastair Darling
Katie Hopkins
Ian Murray
Siobhan McFadyen
Brian:
My apologies for leaving out.
Peace Always
G22- BMcD
G23- AD
G24- AC
G25- BW
G26- IM
G27- SF
Group 22 B McDougall 23 A Darling 24 A Costa 25 B Wilson 26 I Murray 27 I D Smith (what a Shower)
Mc Dougall
Galloway
Costa
Wilson
Campbell
Mc Fadyen
K1:
Look back at “Sorry Guys” if you get time.
Peace Always
Ian:
Stephenson
Darling
Hopkins
Wilson
Campbell
McFadyen
Feeling kinda queasy……
K1:
As the saying goes,we’re a’ Jock Tamson’s Bairns
Peace Always,ALLWAYS
How long is this going to go on ian sweetie?
Drums fingers on table-top
@Paula Rose –
Sorry. I know you’re getting hacked off but this has to be seen through to the end.
It’ll finish on Sat Sep 24th, mid-late evening.
I wanted to ask you to help me do the draw for the 2nd round on Twitter. It would only take about 10/15 minutes and just involves you taking balls out of a virtual ‘bag’. If you don’t want to do it, no probs, I’ll ask someone else or just do it myself…
*sniff*
@x-sticks,
If you see this…
I saw your note on Twitter but not sure what you mean so I didn’t reply there.
Who do you mean? Checked the site of that first name but couldn’t see anything obvious…
Indeed Smallaxe, indeed
Clears table and floor so that Ian can have more room
@Paula Rose –
Okay, if you’re going to be like that, I assume you don’t want to take the balls out?
Ian Ian Ian I’m making space for your balls.
@Paula Rose –
Aach, FFS, it’s like trying to stick a Post-It on a jellyfish…
I will have the balls numbered and prepared. (None of them will be artificially warmed-up, none of that palaver…) All I need is someone to take them out, one at a time, on Saturday evening, at some point between 8.30 and 9.30.
You up for it?
On the 24th?
pretends to look in diary
Yes Dear I will be available.
@Paula Rose –
Good stuff.
I’m dusting off my tuxedo in between tweeting updates…
puts on party dress
TGSFO…can we ‘ave Quentin Letts oan the list perchance?
Damn you Rev and your Bullseye twitter show…it’s becoming must see viewing!
*sticks kettle on whilst whistling the intro…*
John Freedland likes the Rev’s Bullseye show too…telt ye it’s crackin’
Aye Jonathan even…eek
Brian Doonthetoon:
didn’t see you on tonight,talk tomorrow.
Night all
Peace Always
@Ian
You’ll need to remind me what that was about – I can’t find the tweet and the addled brain can’t remember what it was about! Doh!
@x-sticks,
It’s no big deal. Will remind you about it if/when we meet on Sunday.
Hoots brother!
Wishing winger Dick Gaughan a speedy recovery.
One of his best interpretations and seasonally appropriate.
link to youtube.com
Penultimate batch of TGSFO Round One results:
G22
1 Blair McDougall 54%
2 Jill Stephenson 40%
3/4 Barack Obama/ Manuel Barroso 3%
G23
1 Alistair Darling 54%
2 George Galloway 35%
3 James Cook 6%
4 Ken McQuarrie 5%
G24
1 Katie Hopkins 65%
2 Alberto Costa 13%
3 Alex Gallagher 15%
4 Johann Lamont 7%
G25
1 Neil Lovatt 47%
2 Brian Wilson 41%
3 Niall Ferguson 9%
4 Terry Kelly 3%
G26
1 Ian Murray 50%
2 Loki 24%
3/4 Glen Campbell/ James Kelly 13%
G27
1 Adam Tomkins 46%
2 Siobhan McFadyen 37%
3 Ian Duncan Smith 17%
4 Alex Rowley 0%
Still time for last minute nominations if you can get them in before 7pm this evening.
The draw will be made on Twitter tomorrow evening 8-ish-9-ish, and full list will be published here before midnight.
These groups taking votes right now:
Group 28
1 Theresa May
2 Brian Donohoe
3 John McTernan
4 Michael Kelly
Group 29
1 Oliver Letwin
2 Malcolm Rifkind
3 Quentin Lotts
4 ‘TRIDENT’
G28- TM
G29- Trident
Wingers,hiva braw weekend,remember those,who are there in spirit….but are stuck on a rusting piece of metal,in the North Sea Haar (50/60 miles,east of Dundee…I think).
Ian: McTernan, delusional as ever. And Rifkind, another seller of favours caught up with George Robertson in the Thomas Hamilton 100-year D Notice.
Tell us all about it, guys.
Or perhaps not.
Group 28 McTernan 29 Trident
28. John McTernan
29. ‘TRIDENT’
No no we need JmcT and others becos they are re-cruiting sergeants.
@Tinto Chiel –
Just read your comments over on’t main thread about the ‘loss’ of Scotland’s historical records etc.
Fascinating. First time I’ve heard about that. Intrigued, and must pick your brains about it sometime…
McTernan
Letts
Och! *slows down as I’m reading too fast…*
Trident of course…but Letts too!
‘Look over there! A dry-ice factory! A good place to get some thinking done…’
Talking Heads, ‘Cities’ (live) –
link to youtube.com
@ IanB
Tryin’ awfy hard to catch up on stuff, but, everytime I open up Off Topic these days it reminds me of a football coupon for all the sense it makes to me
26 groups???!!! Will there be onybody left in Scotland after TGSFO?
Anyway, can’remember who I nominated before (there are so many candidates), but, I noted a name in a recent list which I’d have no hesitation giving a big vote and that would be the humongous ego, a legend in his own head, that is… (drum roll) –
Loki.
Where will it all end…?
@Betty Boop –
It will end with one of them being told to fuck off even more than the rest.
Loki was nominated, and eliminated. I got some grumbles for including him but I’m sure he’ll survive, might even give him an idea for a lyric.
The draw for Round Two is tomorrow nicht, and Paula Rose will be doing the ball-extraction thing. (No-one else volunteered for some strange reason…)
carjamtic:
May your life be steered safely from the sea to a friendly
Harbour in Love and Peace my friend
@ IanB, 11:08pm
Does this mean you are about to get your life back?
I’m sure Paula will do a lovely job with the balls… Paula, if you are about, remember the cherry red nail polish (the one that matches your fascinator)if your hands are going to be on show. Mwah x
I need ONE more name to complete Round One groups.
Just one.
@Betty Boop –
No-one will see Paula’s hands – they’ll be inside a big virtual black velvet bag, rummaging about for the warmed ones… (i.e. just a normal Saturday nicht in Brechin, eh?)
@Ian
Did anyone nominate Jenny Hjul?
Ian Brotherhood:
Ian Ave goat twa doon here n’ Dumfries,twa coonslers thit want
tae hiv a refurendrum o’ Dumfries n’ Galloway tae mak it pairt
o’ Inglind! Ian Caruthers n’ Peter Diggie,wit aboot it?
Sorry to hear of Dick Gaughan’s indisposition
Had him on my radio show tonight twice – first with 5 Hand Reel and the best ever rendition of The Freedom Come A’ Ye and then with the interesting version of Erin Go snooker loopy!
Go to bed happy. Fabulous 5 Hand Reel with Dick Gaughan
link to youtube.com
PS Don’t know how Erin Go snooker loopy! became “snooker loopy” in last post. I certainly didn’t type anything remotely like that.
@yesindyref2 & Smallaxe –
Thanks, but ye’s are just a tad late – I got the last name via Twitter and that’s Group 30 up and running, will expire tomorrow at approx 7pm.
Group 30:
1 David Maddox
2 Tony Blair
3 Steve Bell
4 Sir Craig Reedie
And if that’s not a total belter to finish with, me no know what is…
I bow to your superior knowledge and PRs pointy heels.
Goodnight All
Peace Always ALLWAYS
@Ian
I don’t mind. It means poor Jenny Hlul wasn’t even considered important enough for anyone to nominate, apart from me. But I did like her article in the Herald: “Jenny Hjul: Scotland has so mush to thank Cameron for”.
That was good for a laugh.
Group 30 Tony Blair
Blair
G30- TB
carjamtic, what’s the weather like where you are?
Peace Always
Hi
Can someone ask Nana to contact cadogan@enright.ie 07590462329
“Fascinating. First time I’ve heard about that. Intrigued, and must pick your brains about it sometime…”
Won’t take you long, Ian
Scot Finlayson’s doc. says it all, sadly.
Hope to see you and other vile seps on Sunday, if we can find each other.
Hoping PR wears her 8″ heels again.
30. Blair
Proud Cybernat
Glad to hear you’ve managed to source the stickies and apologies for possibly being more hindrance than help. I hadn’t appreciated you wanted to move so quickly.
Congrats anyway for your initiative.
@Ronnie Anderson
Check your fb messenger, old boy.
Ta much.
Toodle pip
@Paula Rose –
Whenever you’re ready…
Batches of four, from 1-32, please.
I’ve already numbered the group winners, lobbed in a couple of highest runners-up. It’s as random as can be without doing any actual seeding, so there’s nae jiggery-pokery or dodginess.
@PR
Just as well by the way I wasn’t needed for the Irvine flit, running late this week and blackberrying today, so van only just cleaned out and loads to do for Monday. Hope to get along tomorrow though, treat myself for a change
@IanB
I hate to say this, but it’s next Saturday you booked Paula for, not tonight!
Paula Rose says:
15 September, 2016 at 10:10 pm
On the 24th?
pretends to look in diary
Yes Dear I will be available.
@yesindyref2 –
WHIT?!
AAAAAARGH!!!
Here’s me sitting all anxious, gettin meself in a fankle…
No, seriously, well-spotted there…
The draw must happen, and it has to happen tonight.
So, yesindyref2, would you mind doing the ball thing?
Can we do it right now?
@IanB
I’ve got to go work, but as a fallback in case Paula isn’t available I’ve run “=ROUND(MOD(32*RAND(),32),0)” in Excel (not great but it’ll do), and got this list (excluding dupes):
11, 3, 23, 24
19, 32, 7, 15
13, 27, 25, 2
1, 5, 10, 30
16, 21, 14, 26
9, 29, 17, 20
22, 18, 4, 8
6, 28, 12, 31
I had a list of 100, and still there was one missing – the last one, 31. But that’s fine!
Just saw your reply – beat you!
@ yesindyref2 9:17pm
Blackberrying??? You surely mean “brambling”!
@Betty Boop
Brambling! I knew there was something wrong, but was thinking more of the jam and blackberry and apple pie tomorrow night. With custard of course
@ Tinto Chiel, 10:10am
Last time she did that at a rally, we used her shoes in place of tent pegs for the gazebo! They were a bonny blue though and were a rerr match for the canvas!
@yesindyref2 –
That’s just perfect.
Thanks so much – ye’re a star and I owe ye a pint.
Can’t believe how much I’m looking forward to seeing how these groups pan-out…
The first three will be up on Twitter soon, and I’ll copy them in here.
Hoots!
TGSFO!
Round Two
Two from each group will go on to the quarter-finals.
G1
Jim Murphy
Neil Oliver
Margaret Curran
Neil Lovatt
G2
Muriel Gray
Brian Wilson
Kaye Adams
Chris Deerin
G3
Murdo Fraser
Katie Hopkins
Tony Blair
Effie Deans
G4
Jackson Carlaw
George Foulkes
J K Rowling
‘TRIDENT’
Here’s one for @lewis_rickard
Would it surprise you to discover that love is considered a technology of social transformation? That would be my weapon of choice for bettering society, not a bunch of bloodthirsty Islamofascists, though a lightsaber might be handy in some circumstances. I think you seriously need to take a look at yourself before judging others, as your values appear a bit disordered, tbh.
Uptown Rebel – Lightsaber
link to youtube.com
link to youtube.com
G1-JM
G2-KA
G3-TB
G4-Trident
G1 NO
G2 KA
G3 TB
G4 Trident
CameronB Brodie says:
18 September, 2016 at 2:03 am
Here’s one for @lewis_rickard
Cameron where’s @lewis rickard’s post?
Peace, and Love Always ALLWAYS
Smallaxe
I don’t twitter but spotted him on the Rev’s account. He hoped that ISIS would descend on George square yesterday. Bit of a knuckle-dragger by the looks of things.
@dhothersall
That’s the type of outlook that gave rise to what little nasty divisiveness there was during indyref14. As you will no doubt have noticed, the troglodyte in question is one of your supporters. Better Together eh?
Ian:
Oliver
Gray
Blair
Trident
This is getting too difficult.
Betty Boop: have you seen Paula Rose in her red patent leather Doc Martyn’s?
Stunning!
TJenny
Aiming for the 12.30 train from waverley if you change your mind about Glasgow green
CameronB Brodie:
Thanks Cameron,saw your post and it piqued my interest and as
you will know I am not surprised that love is considered a technology of social transformation.rickard and d Bothersall
can go and have flying coitus with each other as far as I’m
concerned,as long as they don’t procreate.
Peace, and Love to You and those you Love
1. Margaret Curran
2. Kaye Adams
3. Tony Blair
4. ‘TRIDENT’
Jim Murphy
Brian Wilson
Tony Blair
Trident
Really great to see a’body today.
Too many bods to name, but…
Smallaxe, it was a pleasure to finally meet you and the ladies in your life. You’re all charming and I hope you enjoyed yourselves despite the dodgy weather.
Odette, if you do see this, thanks for a very interesting chat, and the info which I’ve now passed on to my boy. He’ll certainly be looking into that.
Well done to everyone who represented this place so cheerfully and professionally, despite some serious provocation at the very end. Happily that type of thing hasn’t happened before but it had to sometime, and it was great to see everyone keeping the heid. That’s another valuable experience under the belt.
Youse are like family to me and I love ye’s all to bits.
*sniffle*
@ Ian Brotherhood
Thanks for the chat, and for letting me know the outcome.
*hug*
It’s great starting to be able to put faces to the names on this site
I had a magical time meeting all the Wingers, especially those who came for the Scribe’s inscriptions.
Can i just put all 4 of my votes to Trident in this round?
Failing that i’ll go with:
G1 – Murphy
G2 – Wilson
G3 – Fraser
G4 – Trident
@Tinto Chiel –
Just saw a clip of Stott on Marr’s show.
FFS, you’re not wrong.
Reminded me of this:
link to valentinagurarie.files.wordpress.com
Oh votes
1. Neil Oliver
2. Brian Wilson
3. Effie Deans
4. George Foulkes
Ian Brotherhood,
Ian, I can assure you that the pleasure was mutually enjoyed.
Yourself and so many others made it a day to remember and
cherish.We were made to feel very welcome by everyone,as you
say,like family.It was so enjoyable to be able to put unfamiliar faces to some very recognisable names:
Names: Brian Doonthetoon,X Sticks,Pete the Camera,the yew choob’ers,Ronnie Anderson,the wee ginger dug and his pet human Schroedinger’s cat,Lollysmum,yesbot and so many others,last but most certainly not least the beautiful Paula Rose (I got a stroke from her) when the wife wisnae lookin,there was even
some self proclaimed”Lurker’s”. I was given a chair to sit on
and a hot cup of coffee,badges,magazines even a half dozen
rolls to take home with us!
I would like to thank you all for your genuine friendliness and a welcome that the Scots are rightly famous for,although
not everyone was Scottish born,but Scots all the same.
My apologies to anyone not mentioned but as you can see there
was so many people to meet I had trouble keeping up.
We are so lucky to have so many good and kindhearted Wingers it was a glimpse into the Scotland we all deserve and strive
for,with people like these I am certain,OUR DAY IS COMING!
Here’s tae us Wa’s like Us!
Peace and Love to All and those you Hold Dear
I can’t link,but I would like some or all to go on YouTube
and find Eric Claptons “let it grow”
When faced with provocation, we need to respond with love. Light years of love, as Blue Oyster Cult sang:
link to youtube.com
Newsflash from Wet Wet Wet, Love Is All Around:
link to youtube.com
And for Smallaxe, Eric Clapton’s ‘(Plant Your Love And) Let It Grow’:
link to youtube.com
And another good day was had amongst the Wings… Great to see so many and sorry about those I missed or didn’t get much of a chance to speak with.
Odet – I hope your hand isn’t cramped after all that writing. They just kept coming!
Good to see Pete back in action – take care though
See y’all next time.
David: Thanks for putting in the link.
Betty Book: Hello I met you yesterday, I was disguised as a
Hula dancer so maybe you didn’t recognise me.
Peace Always
Betty I meant Boop,sorry.
Peace Always
Ian Brotherhood @11.34.
An amazing likeness. It may be that Ken had stage make-up on and his hooter isn’t that bad.
Or maybe not…..
Great to chat to you again but I seemed to have missed a lot of folks. We should probably go about with our “names” on big badges.
Maybe catch you next time, Smallaxe. Glad you had a great time.
TGSFO!
Round Two, final 4 groups, all pure hoaching with big beasts…
Group 5
Andrew Neil
Alistair Darling
Euan McColm
Eddie Izzard
Group 6
Laura Kuennsberg
Adam Tomkins
Jackie Baillie
Blair McDougall
Group 7
John McTernan
Piers Morgan
Michelle Mone
Queen Elizabeth
Group 8
Gordon Brown
Ian Murray
Ruth Davidson
Jill Stephenson
@Ian Brotherhood
Darling
McDougal
McTernan
Brown
Gings I feel dirty just typing their names. yuk yuk yuk!
Darling
Tomkins
McTernan
Division
1. Andrew Neil
2. Blair McDougall
3. Queen Elizabeth
4. Gordon Brown
Painfully difficult to choose!
Who was the lovely gentleman who lent his Wee folding table to me yesterday?
Apparently me brain was as cramped as my writing hand by the end of the afternoon
( excuses excuses)
and I forgot to return the table personally or express my thanks.
Grovelling apologies.
Tinto Chiel:
Hope we meet next time,it would be good to have a blether.
Peace Always my friend
Forget to bring results of R2, first batch:
The winners, top two from each group:
Neil Oliver 57%
Jim Murphy 25%
Kaye Adams 45%
Muriel Gray 32%
Effie Deans 35%
Murdo Fraser 43%
‘TRIDENT’ 43%
JK Rowling 37%
But check out the losers! They’ve all gone out:
Mgt Curran 11%
Neil Lovatt 7%
Brian Wilson 14%
Chris Deerin 9%
Tony Blair 18%
Katie Hopkins 4%
George Foulkes 15%
Jackson Carlaw 5%
@ Smallaxe
Apologies, I met so many yesterday whose outfits had me mesmerised (including a yellow monkey; I think that’s what it was!). For some reason, I thought you were wearing a Stetson! Guess that doesn’t match a hula though :-). It was all go from the moment we set the tables up, so, confusion reigns in my auld heid.
Good that you got to the Green – you wouldn’t have any trouble finding the Wings reprobates!
@ Odet. I recall setting up that wee table, but, I don’t know if it was Ken or Kim Jong Ron that brought it. Hard task master, eh?
Hope you have recovered after that sterling effort.
@ Tinto Chiel
Didn’t see you at GG. Does that mean you don’t have a passport?
Betty Boop: ha! ha! no, I’ve still got three passports from Freedom Square. I was at GG yesterday and spoke to a very busy Ronnie and BDTT but got in tow with yon Ian B and spent a while planning the revolution. Will advise closer to start date. Good to meet JLT, X_Sticks and Tam Jardine, though.
Sorry to have missed you, BB, but for all most wingers were within about 200 square metres of each other, we don’t seem to have been very good at meeting up. We need more badges!
@ Tinto Chiel,
Yup, meeting up and planning escape, that’s what it’s all about. The thing is, just head for the Wings stall or banner and someone will a) recognise you, or, b) you just tell them who you are after you’ve made them guess for a while!
Most Wingy folk end up at the stall or just in front of it at some time. Me, I was all on the stall all afternoon between JimT, Anne, Bdtt, Pete the camera, Caz-M, Odet, Miss Babington, Ken at iScot and Roguecoder at Ayemail. Bob Sinclair and X-Sticks were in and out. Oh, and some fella called Ronnie was hingin’ aboot
Paula was working the crowd…
We had quite a number under canvas from time to time, JLT, IanB, Morag, Lollysmum, Smallaxe, Lanarkist and probably quite a few more that I missed seeing.
That’s thing, build it and they will come! Very apt that; I reckon GG was truly a Field of Dreams on Sunday.
Hi peeps.
A busy weekend, what with ‘Hope Over Fear’ on Saturday afternoon, then ‘a small libation’ in the Yes Bar on Saturday evening, where it was fine when Sarah Johnston and her pal, David, joined the vile cybernats for a couple of pints.
Sarah is the one on the right, in this video…
link to youtube.com
Then we had Glasgow Green on Sunday, where, once again, it was a pleasure to meet up with previously identified Wingers and be able to put faces to names I hadn’t met before, like Rogue Coder, Smallaxe, yesindyref2…
Onnyhoo, as I showed yesindyref2, I did a couple of videos on Sunday. The first features the arrival of the YES Bikers, from the first to the last. It started around 2.15.
link to youtube.com
After that, I did a short ‘panorama’, to show the extent of the crowd, around 2.30. You should be able to pick out Wingstown halfway through.
link to youtube.com
I have pics from George Square (July) and Sunday afternoon. I’ll get them uploaded to Imgur in the next couple of days, then stick the link in ‘off-topic’.
Really good to catch up with everyone yesterday. Great to put some more faces to names, especially Smallaxe and his lovely lady, Tino Chiel, and yestoindyref2 names lang kent and now faces too.
The family grows with every meeting, and here’s tae ye a’!
Jaunty tune with braw video. Brings back some very happy memories…
New Order, ‘True Faith’ –
link to youtube.com
‘In my drunken stupor I’ve got to admire your ingenuity…’
Magazine, ‘Rhythm Of Cruelty’ –
link to youtube.com
Tae that wee wummin caw’d Odessa fur her scribing we bless her
tho her que ‘s were long she stuck tae the task whit mair could we ask
And like the rest naebody payed her.
( wingers will be confuddled as to Odessa is ) lol.
Lugs back I shall this Only wance, £ 725 counted by Paula Rose & myself
£500 will be forwarded to Roguecoder £225 will be retained for purchase of Tables ect (might need a new Gizebo soon).
Thanks to WINGS TEAM (YOUS KNOW WHO’S YOU UR ) & ALL WINGERS & YESSERS for making our day.
(Mitch Kilbride / Helen Smith /Bill Glen / Colin) for the Tea & Coffee stall monies included in the total.
HUGS AW ROON.
Petethecamera will no doubt put his charity donations for Badges up ( not long out of Hospital & cant keep him from attending this event) well done Pete get back to full health soonest.
Signing off for now still KInacker’d lol.
KEEK ODETE lol.
Hello folks!
Not often I post on the Off-Topic, but yep, just want to say thanks to Ronnie and Brian for letting me help out in their big tent. However …I pray I never see a Wings balloon ever again.
Was a pleasure meeting Smallaxe, Tinto and YestoIndyref2 for the first time. Also great catching up with Tam Jardine, X-Sticks, Betty Boop, Ian Brotherhood (good luck with the last year at Uni mate!), Morag, Lollysmum, Smallaxe, Lanarkist, JimT, Bdtt, Pete the camera, Caz-M, Anne, Wee Ginger Dug, Kendo Macaroonbar, the good folks in the ‘English for Yes’ tent and all the other Wingers who, in my book, are all ‘avid readers’ (and not the ‘Lurkers’ as Ronnie called them …tsk-tsk …shake o’ the heid LOL).
But a great day, guys! Loved every minute of it (except those balloons). Catch up again soon folks. You all take care!!!
And oh God before I get slapped! It was also a pleasure catching up with the delightful Paula Rose! Always makes me laugh with his wee shenanigans around the Wingers!!
Take care the now Paula. Catch up at the next do!! Cheers
@ JLT ah dont want Lurkers ah want tae see then dipping there toes intae Wings & becoming Lurchers.
Cmon Lurkers post up, WE dont bite ( much) lol
ronnie anderson
Great effort from you and the rest of the wingers manning the stands. My daughter and I had a great time. She went hame wearing a great flag courtesy of your good self and a couple of wee saltires painted on her face.
Well, she might as well start learning a bit about this weird and wonderful country and her travails.
Great meeting so many wingers- a good few weel kent names there I missed. Next time.
Hopefully another meet is not too far off.
Thanks to all my fellow wingers who helped set up/strip down the iScot Gazebo it was a great help. And to the gentleman who walked off with my gold foiled Scottish passport holder pre production sample Father Ronnie wishes to have ‘words’.
thanks again, You guys are great x
Thank you to the wings family for helping us out you were superb.
Not nice thoughts to the guy that walked off with my pre production passport sample – re-arrange into well known saying or phrase Jobby / hedgehog /breech position
TGSFO!
Final R2 results:
G5:
Alistair Darling 39%
Andrew Neil 30%
Euan McColm 16%
Eddie Izzard 15%
G6:
Blair McDougall 32%
Adam Tomkins 24%
Jackie Baillie 23%
Laura Kuennsberg 21%
G7:
John McTernan 38%
Michelle Mone 24%
Queen Elizabeth 22%
Piers Morgan 16%
G8:
Ruth Davidson 44%
Gordon Brown 35%
Jill Stephenson 16%
Ian Murray 5%
Congratulations to all the winners. Now, only the boldest proceed…after the hair, snotters and bits of ermine have been cleared away.
Only 16 remain.
@ IanB
Scratched my head trying to figure how Brian Wilson dropped out of the running in R2, then I remembered there are an awful lot of candidates for the top spot. That guy gives me the heebie jeebies.
kendomacaroonbar:
May I add-jobby/hedgehog/breech position/haemorrhoids,we used
tae ca’ thaim piles before decimalisation.The Bas-turd!
Peace and Love to you and all you Love
@Betty Boop –
Typically, he folded against serious opposition.
In this case, it was Kaye Adams (45%) and Muriel Gray (32%) who did for him, and convincingly so. The fact that Chris Deerin polled a miserable 9% will be scant consolation.
Wilson has now slipped over the horizon of public consciousness, slipping into a netherworld of ignominious oblivion, as he was always destined to, still muttering darkly about finding WMDs in Iraq…
Most of Scotland happily waves him off, saying ‘cheerio, ya pure nob’.
@Smallaxe
I am so sorry to hear you are under the weather, you really must take care after all you are not long out of hospital. Perhaps being out in the rain on Sunday did not help.
Let Mrs Smallaxe mollycoddle you, lots of cuddles and plenty fluids. Get better soon xx
Nana:
Thank you for your genuine concern,if you haven’t already,have
a look at my post on the Unhappy 11% at 5:45pm you will see the situation,as you already know I still have an incurable thingy
to deal with,it can mess with the head at times, I like every
Grandpa want to be here for my Grandchildren to hopefully guide them in what can be a very dangerous world.Im so proud of them Nana,there great and bright kids they are what keeps me going.
I know that I must annoy some people at times with my daft posts at times,but if they see my name they can just scroll
Past,are we Scots not known for our sense of humour,anyway I’m
sure that the Rev.Stu will put me in my place if he thinks that I’m out of order.
Peace and Love to You and Yours Nana. Billy.
@Billy
Aye you have your troubles Billy and how you manage to keep a cheery outlook astounds me, I guess your faith plays a part.
I for one look forward to your posts as they provide some welcome respite especially on days when the threads can be a bit ‘heavy’
As for those who might complain ignore them. I’ve had a few broadsides hurtle my way over the last three years & I’m still standing [well sitting actually]
I believe a cheery face welcomes more people to the cause than a gurny one, blimey there are too many gurners in this world already.
I tell you what Billy, I’m thinking your grandkids are megga proud of grandad. xx
I’m off to nab a couple of no voters I’ve got dangling on my hook, think they are about ready for reeling in. I can be a bit of a ‘battleaxe’ hahahaha
For you
link to youtube.com
Nana, your one of those special people who I and others love to communicate with or to have you as a friend, I consider you
as a Best Friend I have yet to meet in person, I hope the day
comes soon.My wife and myself send our love and best wishes to
Your good self and your husband (lucky man) and we both hope to meet you in a Free Scotland soon.
As always Nana Peace and Love.There’s nothing funny about that!
@Smallaxe
Ach I’m not special Billy. Hope to meet you someday too, you have to take care of yourself xx
My wee westie has just come in covered in black seeds. He’s been lying in the shade under a bush in the back garden, help ma boab what a mess. He looks like he’s been pebble dashed haha
Who’s YOUR favourite Traveling Wilbury?
link to youtube.com
@ Brian
19 September, 2016 at 8.25pm
Thanks for the videos from the millions of folk that could not be there. Thanks Glasgow.
Ace.
@ Brian
Thanks for the videos
Ace
Ian Brotherhood:
It’s definitely him that starred in that classic movie with
Vivien Leigh “Blowing in the Wind” Bob Gable aye that’s ma man.
Peace Always
Nana,
Peace Love and Pebbledashed Pets
@JLT: interested to hear about your work on the Douglas Family. I couldn’t remember the excellent book on The Black Douglases by Michael Brown, 1998, Tuckwell Press when I was talking to you. You probably have consulted it already but just in case……
Douglas itself is very interesting and the family vault is in St Bride’s Kirk. You can get access by asking for the key. It’s a bit creepy on a winter’s afternoon, as I found out for myself one Hogmanay.
Take a pal if you ever decide to go.
Nana wrote:
“As for those who might complain ignore them. I’ve had a few broadsides hurtle my way over the last three years & I’m still standing..”
Just for you Nana, your own anthem! Steady oan the jiggin’ noo!
Elton John – I’m Still Standing
link to youtube.com
Just a test…
link to youtube.com
Wingers…
link to youtube.com
Paula,
I’m getting nothing from your link at 9:40 but your 10:05 works.
Brian,
I get the same as Paula’s 9:40 when i click on your 8:25 links.
Stoker Honey I’m just so pleased that my efforts are not in vain.
Sorry, Brian, just checked your links again and all are working.
Thanks for those, very much appreciated.
Incidentally and quite by chance or something like that, going to the Glasgow Green thing on Sunday and being with fellow total absolute nutjobs seems to have given me a new lease on life and enthusiasm, not just for Indy work, but generally as well. Good for morale!
I recommend it.
@Stoker
Cheers for that. Don’t suppose you now the number of a good chiropractor?
Only kidding, but the bones don’t half creak, might need some WD40 in the morning! haha
Oi – you lot something is totally amiss, there is nothing here by Thepnr I’m getting seriously worried.
*looks in back of cupboard*
Hi Paula Rose.
RE: Georeferenced maps I mentioned at the weekend. Go to this link, then click on ‘Geo-referenced overlays’ at lower left.
link to maps.nls.uk
When you get the next page, I find that the ‘OS 25inch, 1892-1905’ is a decent overlay to start with. Slide between old and current with the slider at the left – ‘Change transparency of overlay’ – under the overlay drop down menu.
Ian Brotherhood:
You asked people who their favourite Travelling Wilbury was
and I was the only one to reply,was there a prize?did you keep it for yourself? Speedboat? Caravan?own up Ian or I will be on
the phone to Jeremy Kyle and the lie detector will get you.
Cheek!
Peace Always
@smallaxe –
No prizes I’m afraid.
If you haven’t already watched that link you’ll see that it’s not the ‘real’ TWs, just some dude doing his take on them, and he does it very well!
Hoots mon.
Ian Brotherhood:
I did watch the link,funny as feck,but did you see my reply,if
so did you not twig the Humour back at you?
Peace Love and Laugh’s
@Smallaxe –
(Had to scroll back there, had missed it!)
Thanks to Paula Rose, the QF draw for ‘TGSFO!’ has been completed live on Twitter. Same as last round, top two go on to the semis, to be announced late tomorrow night.
Group 1:
Ruth Davidson
Alistair Darling
Effie Deans
Adam Tomkins
Group 2:
Neil Oliver
JK Rowling
Gordon Brown
Michelle Mone
Group 3:
Kaye Adams
John McTernan
Muriel Gray
Andrew Neil
Group 4
‘TRIDENT’
Murdo Fraser
Blair McDougall
Jim Murphy
There can be only eight!
Good to be with youse all at the weekend in Yes Glasgow.
Same time next year..?
Where’s next.. Edinburgh, Aberdeen..
Am enjoying the ongoing coverage of TGSFO!
Aye, plenty of hoachers in there
In the end, there can be only one.
@Cactus –
‘Hoachers’.
Good word mister. It’s a keeper.
It’ll be in his next crossword *makes note*
@Tinto
Hi Tinto,
Most of my research has been done through University archives. Being the 13th-15th century, the information to be found is pretty limited, and probably most documents have been found and added to what we know. My lecturers had warned me that anything from medieval times is likely to be fairly thin, and that what you are gathering is just the same information from various sources with just snippets here and there.
However, to the group that I have been helping (a battle re-enactment group), they have found the information fascinating. They are more or less interested in James Douglas, 2nd Earl of Douglas and the battle of Otterburn when they defeated Henry Percy (Hotspur).
At the moment, visiting anything is going to be limited as my attention has to be on my Uni studies for the next 8 months. There’ll be no chance before next May, but after that (and depending on what the Group want), then if I get a chance, then I may visit a few of the sites. I know Ian (my friend who participates in the battle re-enactments) does want to visit a couple of key places.
But yep, noted down the site and I’ll mention it to him. However, as said, it all depends on what it is they want to look into and what to visit. Part of the their yearly dates is to be invited to France where they have participated in the enactments there (where the Douglases were involved). At this point, I might try and wangle myself on one of their wee trips to France and enjoy the culture of our two nations there. Could be worse! LOL
But thanks again, Tinto. As said, it was great having a wee blether with you on Sunday. Take care the now!!
POLITICALLY CORRECT
As a Man writing this
I may kick up a fuss
But I still think that women
Should clean up after us
We’ve made a real mess
But we didn’t mean it
And I think we need women
To step in and clean it
As the earth is being squandered
To make a fast buck
The only woman consulted
Has been Lady Luck
I know some women frown
As only some women can
When a lady takes a chair
From a gentleman
But please force yourselves ladies
Take a seat from a gent
Take a seat in Old Holyrood
Our Scots Parliament
The daughters of Eve
Once again must give birth
To a plan that will help us
Clean up Mother Earth
———————————————-+
This poem was written by Billy the Rhymer
Last of the hippy’s 1969r
You can read if you please
If you like it it’s yours
It costs nothing it’s free
Just take it in Peace
@Ian Brotherhood ~
Aye aye,’Hoachers’ must have been picked up by my sub conscious and derived from your previous..
“all pure hoaching with big beasts…”
Not long to go now until the winner is crowned, but will it be (wo)man or weapon..
Group 1 Ruth Davidson 2 Gordon Brown 3 John Mcternan 4 Trident
@Smallaxe
I’m a wee bit of a rhymer myself, well I do try
There is a wee rhymer on Wings
Each day with his wit he does bring
Light relief and some mirth
To the threads and for me they are worth
Much more than all shiny things
On Sunday afternoon, I talked to a couple of peeps (Tam Jardine +1?) about a pilot drama I had seen on YouTube. It was set in Edinburgh’s New Town and I found it half decent.
It’s been uploaded to YouTube but in 7 parts, of approx 9-10 minutes. The link below gives you part 1; the other parts are available from the related list on the right of the part 1 page.
link to youtube.com
@ Nana
I know a fine lady methinks
Each morning she sends me fine links
From finish to start
They are truth every part
And there sent from her
Big Golden Heart X
Peace Love and Poetry
Nae probs, JLT.
You sound a busy man, so good luck with all that.
I am often amused by some of the more Yoonish academics who gloss over the reason the mediaeval period is so thin in documents: don’t mention regular invasion and confiscation/destruction of records/archives etc from ablow the dyke!
A trip to Aubigny would be nice but then you’d have to drink the wine…..
Group 1: Ruth Davidson
Group 2: Neil Oliver
Group 3: Andrew Neil
Group 4: Murdo Fraser
Ian:
Darling
Brown
Adams with an “e”
Trident
QF draw for ‘TGSFO!’, my picks:
Group 1: Alistair Darling
Group 2: Gordon Brown
Group 3: John McTernan
Group 4: TRIDENT
G1 AT
G2 NO
G3 KA
G4 Trident
1. Darling
2. Brown
3. McTernan
4. Trident
Darling
Brown
McTernan
Trident
_____
A wee bit of reading for the nighthawks.
Hidden History:
Dr James Young (1811 – 1833)
link to archive.is
Thepnr Honey – how lovely to see you *cuddle*
Och aye I’ll join in, but for one group only..
4. TRIDENT
Repeat as appropriate.
Hope it counts.
Stoker, liked that but thought you meant this guy:
link to scottishrepublicansocialistmovement.org
He was a carnaptious Scot who refused to accept the Unionist version of our history, like Stuart McHardy.
Cactus: looked for your hat at GG but must have missed you.
Next time, mon vieux.
‘TGSFO!’
Result
QF/G1 Twitter% (WOS)
Ruth Davidson 48% (2)
Alistair Darling 24% (6)
Effie Deans 12% (0)
Adam Tomkins 16% (1)
‘TGSFO!’
Result
QF/G2
JK Rowling 31% (0)
Gordon Brown 25 (7)
Michelle Mone 23% (0)
Neil Oliver 21% (2)
‘TGSFO!’
Result
QF/G3
Kaye Adams 38% (3)
John McTernan 34% (5)
Muriel Gray 17% (0)
Andrew Neil 11% (1)
Aweright Tinto Chiel ~
Yeah, I was hanging out with my good friend Jock Scot at the music tent, where we were harmonising to the tunes of Scotland. Next time.
Going walkabout on an adventure.. bbs.
‘TGSFO!’
Result
QF/G4
‘TRIDENT’ 55% (9)
Murdo Fraser 24% (1)
Blair McDougall 13% (0)
Jim Murphy 8% (0)
And that concludes the quarter-final results…
*PHEW*
Paula Rose was good enough to do the Q/F draw, and we remain grateful to her for bringing a wee touch of class to the proceedings…
*YET MORE APPLAUSE, HURLING OF UNDERGARMENTS ETC*
…but I must ask now, and I ask it most sincerely – would any other fellow correspondents like to volunteer to do the draw for the semis?
Please note – this will be the last ‘draw’ required, as the semis will result in one four-name group.
There may be eight semi-finalists, aye, but there can be only one ball-plucker…
Please organise an orderly queue, or sort it our yersels and let me know…
If no volunteers are forthcoming I shall have no option but to take the balls out myself and suffer whatever consequences ensue.
Darling
Oliver
McTernan
McDougall
Och…late tae the party…should huv read further afore posting
@K1 –
Seeing as how we’re both here, and the results are all in, would you like to do the draw for the semis?
Won’t take more than a few comments back and forth, and that’s it sorted, I can post them on Twitter.
You up for it?
@ Tinto Chiel, 10:01pm
I haven’t heard anyone use the word “carnaptious” since my late Dad, but, more likely it was my Mum talking about my Dad! Thanks for reminding me
@ Bdtt
Brian, at GG you mentioned you would post a link to an event happening either end of this month or next (can’t remember). Would be grateful if you could dig out the details. Ta muchly.
@K1 –
Bummer, must’ve just missed you there…
I need these numbers drawn so I’ll head over to Twitter and get it done by someone properly random!
Hoots anyway!
A reflective moment
link to youtube.com
TC (@10:01pm)
Thanks, the feelings mutual, i enjoyed the link you provided.
From now on i plan to submit the occasional interesting Scottish history piece for others to read right here in Paula’s hoose, it can be a bit deserted at times and goodness knows she needs to be kept busy.
I’ll not be posting as often on the main threads for a good while because i want to focus the time i have on my own wee projects promoting WOS in my neck of the woods.
Rev, keep those articles and the ammunition coming, i have endless space in my armoury and one can never have enough bullets or weapons of choice.
RogueCoder (Lindsay) – Order on its way to you later.
IanB – For as long as Trident remains in the TGSFO running put a vote against it each time for me please. As for the others, well, who cares, they’re all Massey Fergusons or John Deeres. And don’t be doing a Dippy Dug and forgetting my vote.
A final wee note to those waiting for ‘IndyRef2’ to be kick-started, don’t wait, time is precious, get the truth out now and when the big day gets triggered we’ll be well ahead of the pack.
Quite often it takes some considerable time for a message, or change of habit, to sink in and be activated. Don’t make the mistake of thinking we’ve got this in the bag, we don’t!
Take the time to get out from the WOS bubble and sniff the reality. Fight like your life depended on it because it does.
Look after yourselves troops and stay safe out there. Orrabest!
@ Brian Doonthetoon 22 September, 2016 at 11:06 am
Thanks Brian, so ‘quirkily’ enjoyable and bang on with the Edinburgh cliches, shame the series didn’t materialise!
I did a post from another machine, around half an hour ago. It hasn’t shown so I’ll try from this machine.
Hi Betty Boop.
The date is 22nd October, 12 noon till 8pm. Originally, it was to be a march from Holyrood to Leith Links but it has been changed to a march from Waterloo place (East end of Princess Street) to a rally at Holyrood with entertainment, speakers, stalls and so on.
Info at this page:-
link to edinburgh.carpediem.cd
Also at the Facebook page:-
link to facebook.com
Betty Boop: glad to have pressed the memory lane button for you. It describes me too and you should hear what Mrs TC calls me.
Stoker: glad to hear you’ll be dropping off your historical stuff at Paula’s gaff. Do you think you could tactfully mention the state of the ash trays?
Cactus: keep in touch and don’t eat yellow snow. Bon voyage.
What’s up now? You don’t like the nice sparkly clean ashtrays?
Yes, much better thanks.
Might pop back later with the Pledge.
Zombie Banks and currency options
Andy Anderson is on http://www.argyllradio.co.uk again tonight from 7pm talking with me about currency options for an independent Scotland and the fraud that is our major banking services.
Och Ian woulda been happy tae oblige, but ah headed aff tae ma pit sharpish after ma comment! Hope ye found someone to do the draw.
@K1 – No bother, it’s done, and you’ve reminded me that I didn’t even post the SF groups here!
@Stoker – Noted. Consider it done.
Here are the SF Groups:
Group 1
Kaye Adams
John McTernan
‘TRIDENT’
Gordon Brown
Group 2
Murdo Fraser
JK Rowling
Alistair Darling
Ruth Davidson
Group 1 closes approx 10, and 2 approx 12 tonight.
Hoots all!
Oooooh yeah, it’s Friday!
Time to get on the leather jacket and legwarmers!
Shalamar, ‘I Can Make You Feel Good’ –
link to youtube.com
Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it…
Daniel O’Donnell, ‘Jambalaya’ –
link to youtube.com
Friday night and the first chill of autumn in my neck of the woods. Seems like a very long, though damp, summer since the June vote. Anyroads, this dead zone period is depressing as hell and folks are frustrated beyond words. (sigh)
I feel a dram or three and a long (extended) lie down coming on. I think the change of pace should hopefully recharge the old batteries.
Have a good one guys.
link to youtube.com
Group 1
‘TRIDENT’
Group 1
Alistair Darling
“Anyroads, this dead zone period is depressing as hell and folks are frustrated beyond words. (sigh)”
Feeling your pain Macart. Not quite getting this clamour for UDI. Need a rest or a large malt.
Or both.
Ian B: Trident
Ruth Davidson
I love beer but rarely drink it as it makes me fart like a champion.
But I must tell you all about this stuff I’m necking right now. From Lidl, it’s called ‘Perlenbacher Festbier’ and the can bears a cheesy drawing of a busty barmaid holding frothy steins of it aloft. 99p a can.
It is – I jest ye not – the best dark lager/beer I have ever tasted. Reminds me of Furstenberg, but nicer.
Has a real kick too. (5.5%)
*TWITCH*
Slainte all!
Ian Brotherhood: you’re better than that. Get on with your novel. Busty barmaids indeed: you’re our intellectual wing!
Having said that, Mrs TC and I have to go to Hamburg for four days in October (long story).
Any orders?
Sometimes words just aren’t enough…
Sydney Devine, ‘Scotland Forever’ –
link to youtube.com
McTernan
Darling
Ian: I raise you this (steak and kidney, seriously?) That beer must be good.
link to youtube.com
@TC –
Indeed it is
*BELCH*
Approx a decade ago I woke up late-morning, as if from a nightmare, convinced I could hear The Sydney doing ‘Tiny Bubbles’, but much more worser than the rendition I had encountered in childhood.
Drink had been taken the night-before, so I mentally dismissed the man and his caterwaulings.
Would they disperse?
No. They would not.
*BAAAAARF*
So, maddened, confused, sleep-deprived and fearing for my mental health, I arose from my scratcher, and raggedly hauled up the blinds – painfully adjusting focus to cope with the unbearably sudden brightness, I struggled for many seconds to accept the awful truth.
*HAAARPH*
There he was, The Man Himself, in the bowling green which backs onto our humble abode, doing his warm-up for the Gala Day.
True dat, and I do hope you won’t let a rift come between us.
*RAAARGH*
Ian, you are a true poet, able to process your trauma into a tinkling stream of utter poetry.
Was it Ardeer Bowling Club? or ICI?
Your novel needs you, as does mine.
It was so much simpler when Paula Rose when did the stir-fries.
Trident
Davidson
@TC –
Ardeer.
It’s right over the back wall.
(You sound familiar with these pairts.)
Aye, Miss Paula Rose is very very quiet tonight – usually an ominous sign. Someone, somewhere, must be getting it.
@ Bdtt
Thanks for the info
@ IanB
If the book has closed a wee bit late:
Group 1 Kaye Adams
Group 2 Ruth Davidson
Ta
@Betty Boop –
Sorry, you just missed it, but I hope you’ll be pleased to know that your selection has proceeded to the final.
Here’s how Group 1 of the semi-final finished:
1 ‘TRIDENT’ 54%
2 Kaye Adams 20%
3 John McTernan 14%
4 Gordon Brown 12%
1 Gordon Brown 2 Alistair Darling
Bluegrass ? Rocket Man. link to youtube.com
Ian: not so familiar with Ardeer but an old Communist colleague worked at ICI. Lucky guess.
I’m worried about Paula Rose: they say her satay is quite magnificent but she’s gone all quiet. She’s maybees chapping her ingans still.
Think I need some of that beer you mentioned…..
And here’s the outcome of the other semi:
1 JK Rowling 35%
2 Ruth Davidson 31%
3 Murdo Fraser 19%
4 Alistair Darling 15%
Therefore…
The Final of ‘The Great Scottish Fuck Off!’:
Ruth Davidson
JK Rowling
Kaye Adams
‘TRIDENT’
The poll will go ‘live’ on Twitter at midnight, and close tomorrow at the same time.
Trident
Much as I loathe our resident Massey Fergusons and Bamber Gascoignes, the only answer can be Trident.
And so to bed.
Christy Moore- So do I link to youtube.com
All About that Bass. link to youtube.com
@Michael –
Nice one.
This is an earlier version of the song he finished that concert with.
Moore’s one of these dudes who doesn’t really seem to age a lot, eh?
link to youtube.com
Ian Brotherhood,
Thanks for the effort and the craic.
Has to be TRIDENT sums up Scotland in Union and symbolises Little Britainers attitudes.
We don’t want it, we didn’t vote for it but eat your cereal and suck up the fact you’re getting it, (GSTQ and all that needs it to pretend UK is still OK and a World Power (how very 1947).
Wouldn’t give Ruthfurher Davidson, Jakey Rowling or UKOKaye Adams the publicity that winning this would demand.
@Jockanese Wind Talker –
Yer vote and sentiments all registered, with thanks.
Ian B,
Thanks go to you for thinking TGSFO up in the first place and running with it.
Thanks also to Paula Roses’s baw handlin’ abilities to ensure a clean (fnaar, fnaar) vote.
I’ve given up voting in this, it’s obvious TRIDENT is going to win!
When I worked in Germany, around lunchtime everyone greeeted everyone else with just one word: “Mahlzeit” (mealtime).
I got in the habit of saying that every time someone farted (including me).
@IanB
Mahlzeit!
Oh, and may as well make my vote for TRIDENT as well even though living on the Clyde for so many years not far from Holy Loch and under a 100 foot aerial nuclear burst tidal wave I’m not particularly bothered. A bit wet all the same.
Mmm, Warsteiner, that’s my queen unter biers.
Bit of a shocker yesterday. After watching the final of the Egghead’s search for new team members, I wondered where CJ was so looked him up.
He had been arrested the day before for suspicion of murder in Amsterdam. Apparently, in his autobiography he confessed to punching a mugger and chucking him in the canal, possibly to his demise, 20 years ago.
Yoiks! I’m scared to look up Daphne now.
Ob sick joke. Good luck to the Amsterdam police interviewers in getting him to answer questions.
In honour of Corbyn:
link to youtube.com
Must admit to disappointment in the final four, I really wanted to tell John McTernan the seer to get to fuck as he is obviously a useless ….
So forced to chose, for me it has to be the bint from hell that screeches Britnat propaganda day in and day out.
Seriously as much as I would like Trident to fuck off I’d rather we told BBC propaganda fronted by the likes of her and the rest off them.
We missed a trick here. We should have told the BBCC to FUCK OFF.
Kaye Adams for me.
Hi Honey *waves at Thepnr*
Hi Paula.
Yeah I’ve reverted to Thepnr. That’s how I started on Wings and I guess that’s how I’ll finish.
I know Paula Rose will be too young to remember this, but as the sun goes down and we all get a trifle melancholy, I’m leaving this here for all you aesthetes/Quality Street gang members. I remember watching this series with my dear old dad and I really loved the downbeat, rather seedy/sad atmosphere it created. Alfred Burke was really good in the part.
Does anyone else remember it?
link to youtube.com
Tinto
Sure I do, watched it regularly.
Do you also remember Callan? Starring Ed Wud Wud Wud?
Had the rarity of a Scot as a B character who wasn’t a drunk or wife-beater even if he did, apparently, smell a lot.
A reminder
link to youtube.com
Tinto Chiel:
Thank you for the memories, nostalgia rules
Chic McGregor:
You could not possibly have known when you mentioned Callan,
But the late Russell Hunter was a personal friend of mine for
many years,back in the sixties we used to spend a lot of time
together when putting together an experimental show called
The Barnstormers,Thank you and Tinto for sending me off to bed
to sleep,perchance to Dream,Dreams of Happy memories.Goodnight.
Peace and Love of Long Ago
Pleasant dreams Smallaxe. Nostalgia is not what they say it was.
A bit like Scottish history.
Just for the record:
‘TGSFO!’ 2016
The End!!
‘TRIDENT’ 54%
Ruth Davidson 19%
JK Rowling 16%
Kaye Adams 11%
So, its finally done.
Make of it what ye will!
@IanB
Blunderturds are go!
@Ian Brotherhood
Well done Ian, I’ll bet there are a few politicians & celebrities who are fair disappointed. Those that did make the final though are probably chuffed.
Truth is, it was an unfair contest. No mere mortal could possibly beat Trident.
Chic McGregor:
I know what you mean Chic,people keep telling me that I should
do something for Posterity,but what’s Posterity ever done for
Me?
Peace Always
PS.I will hear no criticism of Scottish History after having
seen the Historically Accurate Brig’o’ Doon and watching
Those most excellent documentary’s by the highly acclaimed Prof.Nell Oliver (he of the lovely Locks)
@Ian
Well done Ian, 10/10 for sticking with it. I think it does say something when Trident beats all comers by such a large margin. It is and always has been my primary reason for wanting independence. Obviously a lot of other folk are of the same mind. As Alex says “No mere mortal could possibly beat Trident.” Nail, head, hit.
However Colin we mere mortals do have the power to make Trident obsolete.
Let’s just do it. Nothing beats knocking a winner from their pedestal. Just ask Jim Murphy
Chic and Smallaxe: sorry, I was out with Taylor Swift later last night and missed your comments. Nice girl but her knowledge of Scottish politics is a bit disappointing.
Memory is strange. The music for Public Eye popped into my head the other day for no apparent reason yet I hadn’t heard it since the original series. I thought it was the Callan music but when I found the episodes on YouTube I realised I was wrong.
I tried to remember more of the music and then the face and name of Alfred Burke came into my head from nowhere. The internet’s great for finding any reference or quotation in a few seconds and I traced him quickly to Public Eye and that moody music.
Strange the ways music (and smell) can take you back half a lifetime to a long-forgotten memory.
I have freed myself from the grip of TV so will take great pleasure in rediscovering Callan and Public Eye.
Thanks for your comments.
X_Sticks: completely agree about Trident being a prime reason for independence. Sadly I know Scottish CND members who voted no, and committed Christians who thought Trident an obscenity who did the same.
Does not compute, I’m afraid but folk are funny.
Tinto + Smallaxe
Still on the nostalgia kick, given Corbyn’s apparent, recent and long overdue, makeover I am now rather confused as to whether he is still identifiable with Worzel Gummidge or has he moved more towards Mr Crowman? (perhaps more appropriately in a titular sense).
Anyhoo, here is a clip of Kezia/Aunt Sally caught fibbing by the two so you can make your own mind up on this serious political dilemma.
link to youtube.com
Sheesh, Chic, that’s a difficult one. I always think he looks like an ageing Modern Studies teacher who drives a Citroen 2CV.
But given the new main thread today, Kezia is a real Aunt Sally, it seems.
I think she is not going to last much longer now that JC has won. Cue lots of in-fighting.’Twas ever thus but the BBC will be their little helpers.
I know it’s not Hamlet but I thought Una Stubbs “took her part lovely” as Kenneth Williams used to say in Round The Horne.
Hi Smallaxe.
You mentioned ‘Neil Oliver’…
I guess you’ll have seen this documentary, from a few years into the future?
link to youtube.com
Briandoonthetoon
Came over here to nosy about because the link to the Phantom Power Pilot that Nanna just put up is coming up as this video is unavailable.
Turns out SO is your link!
It’s enough to make a body paranoid that there are people out there who don’t want us to see certain things!!!!
Hi liz g.
I’ve just tried the link again and I’m getting the video ok.
link to youtube.com
I’m not really for or against Trident, the nuclear deterrent, but I do think we’ve had it (and Glen Douglas though supposedly empty now), long enough.
Time it went elsewhere.
Apologies if this is duplicated 1st try disappeared due to user stupidity!
I’ve just watched Phantom Power’s excellent latest film
link to youtube.com
I think it is the beginnings of the new media the we so desperately need. We need to get behind this and get it funded. They are at 31% of £18,000 with only two days to go.
I’m going to flog this relentlessly and I hope others here will get behind it to. If Wings can raise 50k in a day then surely we can do this but it’s going to take a concerted effort. I hope you’ll help.
PERSPECTIVE: “A series of documentary films covering Scotland’s journey to independence. Who is involved, what will our country look like, how will our economy work, where is our place in Europe? Exploring the big questions behind Scotland’s democratic revolution.”
link to indiegogo.com
@x-sticks –
Thanks for link.
Have been watching it in wee chunks.
Top-quality stuff.
Must admit to getting a tad emotional at the footage of Govanhill Baths.
I learned to swim there along with my wee sisters. Standing in a long queue outside during the summer holidays, we would twist coins into the holes made by uncountable thousands of previous children along the sandstone wall and pillars at the entrance. You could tell which holes had been made by old pennies, sixpences or whatever by the diameter. Don’t know if they’re still there.
Often, if we had enough cash, we’d leave after our session was up and immediately rejoin the queue. It was a fantastic resource in its day, and hopefully will be again.
Ian: you’re probably too young but did you call your jeely/cheese piece a “chitterin’ bite”? One of my dear old dad’s wee sayings after the baths in Hamilton.
Not chitterin’ licht, one of our valued posters.
I’m ready for revolution now. As Cactus would say, “I love Scotland.”
@TC –
TBH, I’ve never heard that expression before.
However, it does have 13 letters, which means it’ll appear in a National crossword this side of New Year IF I can locate the same spelling in a dictionary.
Hoots!
PS How was ‘Brookmyre’?
PS How was ‘Brookmyre’?
Ian: check your e-mail! Entertaining but too many lawyers about.
Scots: to chitter:-shiver in English.
Brian Doonthetoon says:
25 September, 2016 at 1:08 pm
Hi Smallaxe.
You mentioned ‘Neil Oliver’…
Brian,if you look back,I mentioned NELL Oliver,this was not a typo.
What you will not find in his Wiki thingy is that he once worked for the “Annandale Observer” a local newspaper in these
pairts.I once had the great honour of being interviewed by him
on the subject of some scribblings of mine many moons ago.He is just as impressive in person as dog turd is when shoved
through your letterbox at midnight.I enjoyed speaking with him
so much that he is lucky Tony (I found a Roman shit house) Robinson has not unearthed him on one of his Archeological digs.
Peace Love and Lovely Locks
Chic McGregor:
Now that you come to mention it Chic,I used to partake of a
small refreshment in a hostelry in Cumbernauld named “The Twa’
Corbie’s”, there was some depictions of said members of the Crow family (corvus brachyrhnchos) and on some evenings if the
light was just right,well let’s just say,I could at times see
a resemblance.
Then again this may have been caused by the hallucinatory effect of the strong lemonade I was sipping.
Peace Love and Lemonade
Brian and Chic:
Apologies for the late replies but I was over on the other thread explaining some of the shit that Kezia had been spouting.
Peace Love and ffs did you hear her?
link to youtube.com
Seems appropriate somehow
I agree with the last comment. link to youtube.com
yesindyref2
Michael McCabe.
Stop Children what’s that sound,some great music going around.
Peace Always
Why are so many of the Executive Class of our Health Boards so fat and unhealthy looking?
How much do we pay these people?
£100k? £150k? £200k?
And all the crisps and chocolate bars which they can stuff in their mouths?
Which reminds me.
I see the CEO of the Scottish Health Service is complaining that NHS staff are afraid to whistleblow, and that 11 whistleblowers are still on suspension.
The article which I read inferred that the Scottish Government must do more to protect staff and encourage whistleblowing.
It begs the question:- What the feck are we paying the Chief Executive to do?
Julius Caesar’s observation:-
‘Give me men about me who are fat, men who sleep o’ night’,
comes to mind.
Some apparently are sleeping during the day as well.
It’s all that BAD SNP’s fault, doncha know?
@Smallaxe
Can’t catch me!
link to youtube.com
From the Man in Black’s backing band the Oak Ridge Boys who were a regular support group.
“I’m caught up in the push and shove
The daily grind, burning time, spinning wheels,
I wonder what I’m doing here
Day by day, year by year, standing still.
Somewhere there’s a teacher with a heart that never
quits,
Staying after school to help some inner city kids,
A mother who’s a volunteer, a soldier in the fight,
I can’t help but ask myself when I lay down at night.
Did I make a difference in somebody’s life?
What hurts did I heal? What wrongs did I right?
Did I raise my voice in defence of the truth?
Did I lend my hand to the destitute?
When my race is run, when my song is sung,
Will I have to wonder, did I make a difference?
Did I make a difference?
I’ve been working hard to make a living
And forgetting what true living is
Taking more than giving, something’s missing
Lord how long can I go on like this?
There’s a lonely old man down the street
And I should be ashamed.
I’ve never been to see him, I don’t even know his
name.
There’s the kids without their supper, in my own
neighbourhood,
Will I look back someday and say that I did all I
could.
Did I make a difference in somebody’s life?
What hurts did I heal? What wrongs did I right?
Did I raise my voice in defence of the truth?
Did I lend my hand to the destitute?
When my race is run, when my song is sung,
Will I have to wonder, did I make a difference?
Did I make a difference?
When my race is run, when my song is sung,
Will I have to wonder, did I make a difference?
Did I make a difference?
When my race is run, when my song is sung,
3
Will I have to wonder, did I make a difference?
Did I make a difference?”
That is a good song for Scottish Labour, and Kezia in particular. If you really want to make a difference why are you on the wrong side of history, the wrong side of the debate. If you want a “Labour Scotland” why vote for Westminster labour who are as always away and voting with the Torys!
BBC Droning on tonight seriously debating Boris J’s claims of Russia potentially being involved on war crimes.
Switched to RT. . . . .
they were droning on about Boris blocking an independent UN war crimes investigation into UK arms and Saudi Arabia
Did not see that mentioned on the BBC
Cadogan: some clues in here perhaps. UK meddling seems to have been going on a long while and it rarely sides with the good guys.
link to en.wikipedia.org
Last night / early this morning I got the impression that I was being told to leave the main thread and move my conversation over here.
While that may or may not be the case my position was then and still is that I would only be obliged to acknowledge the Revs instructions to do so.
I have waited to see if the Rev did indeed take a view,and since he hasn’t so far I am minded to think at the very least, he doesn’t see this as an urgent issue.
After having read all the comments on the subject I think on balance I will indeed try my best to keep those kind of conversations over here.
I did however get the impression a while back the Rev was a wee bit chuffed that his “computer fixer people” were struggling to find a gap in the comments, even though the night.
Also I took the view that some new readers might be more comfortable bantering with the more irreverent posts to start with, and certainly viewed that kind of stuff as harmless,and it never entered my head it would be harmful.
So just incase …..I will as I have said try to keep the chit chat over here.
Hopefully those Winger’s who feel the main thread should be kept a bit more focused will keep up the night time posting on the main thread as I think it’s a good thing that Wing’s is active 24/7.
But I’m still looking for a wee bit of a compromise, as this end of Wing’s is not really my cup of tea, I don’t generally dip in and out of, off topic especially through the night, I am giving fair notice that I will probably engage with another poster initially on the main thread first.
Now bearing in mind things like age, alcohol,memory ect could be a factor anybody who thinks that I need reminding some nights please speak up.
So hopefully that’s thing’s sorted,unless and until the Rev says different.
I have ventured over here for the first time. I was certainly getting the vibe that being off topic or inadvertently repeating what someone else had said was being frowned upon.
As I am relatively new I still feel I don’t always ‘get it’ so I suppose I rely on the prevailing mood music. Sometimes the discussions get a bit heated on the current threads and it can feel you are intruding in a private argument but that is why it is so compelling. People really care about getting an independent Scotland.
Anyway I came over to say if you haven’t read the Booker Prize nominee, ‘His Bloody Project’, then give it a go. It’s by Graeme Macrae Burnet and published in Scotland. Written almost like a docu drama it tells the story of a young crofter accused of a triple murder from his perspective and from testimonies of those around him. The time period is the 1840’s, the advent of the Victorian asylums.
I spent a lot of my time working as a junior doc in these places before they were closed down. The records were a fascinating look at the supposed enlightenment of the time but also an eloquent account of the awful conditions and misery of those with mental illness. The diagnosis of ‘moral insanity’ still fills me with horror, the ‘personality disorder’ catch all of its day. The book is more than that though – it also gives an insight into the class structure and powerlessness of the crofters. I liked it.
Thanks for your comments Liz and Scottish Psyche. I don’t feel it’s anybody’s business to police Wings apart from the Rev.
Sure everyone has an opinion but I don’t see why people have to feel or even be ‘told off’ or ‘frowned upon’ by others just because they are gabbing away in the middle of the night on the main thread and those ‘others’ don’t enjoy those comments?
I have a wee ‘pet irk’ with regard ‘one’ person making a rather critical comment about ‘what’ people are relating about on the main thread then others jumping in on the back of that comment and saying ‘well said’. Sure sometimes we have all posted mair times than we know but then we all get excited at different aspects of the political scene in Scotland and at other times we are arguing with someone (guilty) over specific points related to our varying political outlooks…but everyone is free to scroll past those comments that they find either irrelevant or uninteresting?
There are no bosses on Wings…just one boss and that’s Stu.
How did people become ‘regulars’? By posting and chatting and engaging on the threads…on a ‘regular’ basis? There are more and more lurkers coming forward and more are coming…partly what makes Wings a good forum is the ease with which you are welcome to comment on either the atl topic or engage with others on what they have expressed. That ‘develops’ the community feel of the place, does it not? It allows people to ‘find their voice’ and develop a greater nuanced understanding of the issues involved in our movement.
It also lends itself to a more ‘personal’ interaction and people feel relaxed enough to share some of the more painful and difficult aspects of their human journey too which is, I feel, part of that ‘support’ that Wings uniquely and unexpectedly provides.
There were times in the past that I too have felt a lot of posts were irrelevant or ‘boring’ and then the more I read and got to ‘know’ the style of the poster I could see the value in what they were sharing in their own unique way; they are sharing themselves, leaving their mark…their voice is being heard.
In summation notwithstanding the house rules of no O/T on the main thread comment’s within the first 20 or so comments (as yesindyref2 commented on the main thread earlier today) O/T has always been part of the main thread ‘especially’ when it runs for more than a 24 hour period and I personally have no problem with anyone who is commenting in the middle of the night…sometimes it’s just ‘contact’ that we need…then.
Also especially when it relates to another article about Slab…I mean how much more can we actually talk about the disaster that is Dugdale/Murphy/Lamont? Is there an actual factory in Scotland that we don’t know about that is producing Slabcutouts? If there is I demand Sturgeon shut it down!
End.
(Smallaxe I note you have not commented much today, and hope you are well…peace…as you would say
)
Thanks for the book review Scottish Psyche, will check out
link to youtube.com
K1
Thank you for your reply you are very kind.
I don’t actually comment much at night but am usually around cause I am indeed a bit of an insomniac.
But I do drop in and out of the main thread to see what’s being said if anyone is around,and have done for years.
It was only when I read the night’s were particularly long for Smallaxe at the moment I let him know that I was usually around if he needs a distraction,didnt even think to suggest coming over here.
(Like you haven’t seen much from him today hope that means he is doing ok)
Like Scottish Psyche above I’m still figuring out the best protocols for this site,and I very rarely come here,but will watch with interest how the night time posting develops on the main theread.
Anyhoo thanks again for your kind reply and goodnight to you.
Everyone is welcome here – I’ll pop over the main thread and have a look.
K1 and Liz: as you say, it’s the Rev.’s site and he decides what is permissible.
Many regular contributors perhaps comment too much if the criterion is “only speak if you have something new to say”. I am guilty of this myself. Do I really want to acknowledge again the stupidity and mendacity of Kezia/Ruth/Baillie? I know thinking about them just makes me fed up. Yet I commented on the main thread on Kezia yesterday.
What is most important on this site is what I simply call “playing keepy-uppy”. I’m sure the Rev doesn’t want the TV equivalent of “dead air” and many regulars are conscious of this and comment in their own idiosyncratic way. You get a real sense of their personality or when they’re cheesed off or perhaps lonely and others respond because it is a strange but welcoming community on here.
In the end the Rev is our host and he is pretty tolerant.
As usual I’ve said too much.
We need Paula Rose and a tray of her Martinis, I think.
Bit early for that Dear but I’ve left a couple of tray-bakes over on the main thread for folk to help themselves.
Good point.
I like you fruit slices.
You need more Stork, btw.
@Liz g
I don’t see anything wrong in folks engaging in a bit of banter. I often used to forget the rule re posting off topic links too early in the thread, so I tend to stay away during the day now just in case I slip up besides I have an aversion to hammers!
Right now we are feeling edgy and frustrated. Some wingers may be unwell and looking for company with like minded folks and being a welcoming inclusive site we should make time for all voices.
Yesterday morning did not sound like a voice of unity and that makes me sad.
The other side are disparaging of anything and everything, belittling has become their way of life and just look at how ugly and off putting that is.
Paula Rose, is it gin’o’clock yet?
Not yet and I’ll be out when it is because Bruce Fummey is appearing at tonight’s Be More Brechin event and I’ve got to get the venue ready.
@Paula Rose
Probably a good idea to do a little on the main thread, peace and harmony and all that, and people do “listen” to you. I think it’s the heels, brings the fear of whatever God or no God people might or might not have into them.
Yeah, some people forget that Wings does perform a support function, for those out there staying calm “out there” in the face of stupidity and provocation, and want to sound off in like-minded company. It’s not all about info and hard fact, or staying “on topic”.
It is true that when there are no new articles things can go awry on the main thread. I try to keep an eye on the tone of debate but due to being asleep I missed that one.
Give me a call here if it happens – if i’m around I’ll be in earshot.
Hi Liz g and Smallaxe
Please don’t take those comment critics to heart. Some people just like to gripe. A bit of human kindness raises the tone of the thread, especially in the wee small hours.
I just scroll on past if I don’t want to read a post. Read the advice on commenting Stu has posted. He suggests waiting till about 6 posts in before going off-topic. The link is at the top of the comment box.
BTW when is Smallaxe going to post the rest of the Trench Town adventure?
Just listening to the prog. on the National theatre.
Wee wifey explaining how there was nothing at all when she came up to Scotland and how she had to personally make office furniture out of oak, English oak of course.
Switch off before they get on to productions like The Black Watch.
Maybe that’s wrong. Maybe they will question why the history of the Black Watch completely omits their mutiny in seventeen forty three.
Chic: strangely enough I was in seeing a neighbour earlier tonight and she was watching one of those History channel progs on Wallace/Braveheart.
Only lasted about two minutes before I started shouting at the screen. Apparently Wallace and Moray were “Scottish rebels” and the Scots did not observe the rules of civilised warfare by ambushing Edward’s army at Stirling bridge.
So we get invaded and if we fight back we’re “rebels”?
Yoons just can’t help themselves, can they?