Wings Over Scotland

I wonder if lead Yoon and ‘useful idiot’ Alex Massie will appreciate the cricketing reference here.

Cracking cartoon as usual Chris, hitting the nail right on the head.
“You Scots will take the news we want to give you, and like it. What could there possibly be worthy of reporting in Jockland that’s more important than “British”….. (oops ‘English’) news?

The fact is, as wee ginger dug put it, we don’t actually want 30 more minutes of Jackie Bird, what we want, and should demand is a Scottish broadcaster, funded by Scotland, for Scotland. It is truly absurd that so many Scots still seem contented to sit through the supposedly ‘main’ news every freaking night about English education problems or English health funding and English Doctors strikes. All from England.

Then there is the monumentally stupid mindset, perpetrated by the English owned and English controlled ‘scottishy’ newspapers, asserting that with a separate Scottish broadcaster, Scots would lose some programmes such as ‘strictly’ or ‘Eastenders’. The fact is programmes like those are sold to broadcasters ALL over the world. Their is not a single reason why those English production companies would then say, ‘oh, no, we’ll sell ‘strictly’ to China, but we simply won’t sell it to Scotland. It is utter rubbish. Every day, people in the USA and other countries around the world watch programmes like ‘coronation street or eastenders’.

We don’t need to even look very far, as the INDEPENDENT Ireland has its own broadcasters who buy in programmes from all over the world. It is how TV works nowadays.

No, the fact is, Westminster doesn’t want Scotland to have its own broadcaster, answerable to the people of Scotland instead of London, for one very simple reason, cultural suppression. They want to pump ‘Britannia’ propaganda, Queen Lizzie and all, into our homes 24/7, and the very last thing they want is increased Scottish cultural awareness about Scotland. They want to perpetuate the dependency, subservient, ‘poor wee Scotland’ mindset, which has kept Scotland shackled against its wishes to an unwanted, unfair and undemocratic English union for over three hundred years.

It will not do, and I just wish the SNP and Scot gov would start boycotting rubbish like Question time, and other BBC shows. Eventually, if they stuck to their guns, people all over Europe and the world would start to notice. Even the SNP as the largest political party in Scotland, largest party in the Scottish Parliament, the third largest party in the entire UK, with almost every single Scottish MP, is still treated as a ‘fringe’ party by the BBC, with wowefully inadequate coverage of their political conferences. It is time, they metaphorically ‘grew a pair’ and stopped playing ball.

Well done Chris. Take that you lot.

Personally I don’t care about a Scottish six, too little too late as far as I.m concerned. Has to be our own broadcasting TV station, not the EBC.

Don’t watch tv so immune to pro Britnat BBC home counties zoomery & jingostic propaganda.

But a Scottish media broadcaster, based in Scotland, funded by Scots & focused around Scottish issues & culture just like every other country enjoys is surely a reasonable aspiration.

But you can’t change broadcasting in Scotland if you keep giving London your money.

Robert Louis,

Agree with every word.

I no longer watch any of the major TV channels or read any newspapers, but to matter where you look there is very rarely anything positives about Scotland in either TV reviews or front page headlines.

30 minutes of misreporting or 60 minutes of misreporting. It will still be controlled by greedy,useless criminals. Who cares? Unless broadcasting came be devolved and come under control of the people who pay for the service. The Scottish people.

The BBC the biggest con trick over all. £3/4Billion of funding depending who are to be believed? for a complete load of nonsense. Absolutely appalling. A bunch of greedy prima Donna being used to misinform the public. Just like the Olympic millionaires cheats being used for policial purposes. To annoy the public. People are sick of it. They know they are being brainwashed. It won’t wash.

The only channels worth watching is the Parliamentary Channel. To hear what the liars are doing before it is misreported. The Truth. The BBC before with half the license fee used to make good drama and documentaries. Now it is repeats and worthless rubbish. Less people watch it anymore. The listening rates are diabolical. They always were but it is getting worse. Not worth the effort or the money. Or the political place people.

I’m not that fussed about the Scottish 6 made and played by the propaganda factory.

Much more insidious is the amended Charter which gives the BBC licence to promote the Union above all concepts of objectivity and respect for those dissatisfied with the Union.

Surely this makes the BBC’s position untenable; charged to provide political news coverage when the BBC’s Charter puts it squarely at odds with democratically elected Government in Scotland. If the SNP or YES now promotes any concept of a better life outside the UK union, the BBC is now Charter-bound to suppress it. It isn’t news to most of us that the BBC already does this anyway, but this revised Charter is merely a cackhanded attempted to legitimise this prejudicial misconduct and bias.

The Scottish Government MUST surely now seek some form of legal interdict to ban the BBC’s interference with our political discourse. The BBC is indefensibly compromised by its prejudice and it must be challenged.

Very subtle but spot-on and very funny, Chris.

@Smallaxe says: 17 September, 2016 at 7:16 am
“Well portrayed Chris,they can bat away the six if they like,
all we need is one good Scottish broadcaster(aside from
BBC Alba of course)”

Trouble is that never in this World will we Scots ever get a Scottish broadcaster from the, so called, “British Broadcasting Corporation”. Even their officially given Royal Charter title is a propaganda exercise designed to mislead.

Yes it is “A” British corporation but it is only a United Kingdom broadcaster and most certainly not, “The”, British Broadcaster that it claims to be.
This is the usual Westminster Establishment wishful thinking that the United Kingdom is, not only, all of Britain but that the terms British and English are mutually synonymous.

Never for a moment must Scots ever forget the claim of David Mundell when he quoted from an official Establishment commissioned paper as, “The Treaty of Union extinguished the Kingdom of Scotland and renamed the Kingdom of England as The United Kingdom”.

There is not even a hint of such an agreement between the only two kingdoms that constitute, “The United Kingdom”, in the Treaty of Union.

Legally the treaty of union units only the two, equally sovereign, kingdoms of Scotland & England but the kingdom of England was comprised of the three countries of England, Wales and all Ireland in 1706/7.

There has only ever been two, legally equal, partner kingdoms in the United Kingdom which, by the way, has never legally been the unequal union of countries we have to suffer under today.

The village green and cricket couldn’t be more iconic as “english”. But the union jack wastecoat isn’t incongruous – it reinforces scotland’s insignificance to the union as england/britain are interchangeable terms with almost nothing culturally to separate them. Scotland is expected to conform, become “british”, and thereby become “english” too. We should be happy watching their football, their news, their middle class period dramas…

Know your place Scotland. We exist because they have tolerated us up to now, but they’ve run out of tolerance. We either conform to what they want us to be, or grow some fucking balls…

After having Nicola Sturgeon’s huge contribution during the week the National has a big article from Alex Salmond today. Of course this is just to confuse us so that we don’t notice that the national is a unionist plant putting out a continuous daily stream of pro independence material to…to ……..to do what exactly?

Before look at the attached link I strongly advise everyone to make sure they are sitting down and have nothing throwable or breakable within easy reach. 😛

link to twitter.com

Arbroath

I think Murdo has lost the plot a wee bit with his tweets. Sooner or later (probably sooner) he is going to clip around the ear from Ruth for being an arse.

Not our problem though 🙂

The sneer says it all Chris.

Aye well, John Bull will soon be smiling on the other side of his face.

They’re not very good at politics, are they?

Ah, Murdo Fraser, a once greatly respected British statesman, reduced to an internet Yoon troll.

Come on, at least I got half of it right.

@Handashrimp……. As long as the NHS and police forces etc in England are going to the dogs…… Receiving national UK news broadcast into Scotland, educates our ill informed as to how badly things are in England …… Long may that continue.

Seems to me an extra half hour of Jackie Bird and no news of the disaster going on in England has no benefit for our cause.

Clydebuilt

A fair point.

Thats a grand cartoon Chris!

However as usual with Westminster its too little too late the argument has moved on from a Scottish Six to a SBC.

And Im not sure that we are not better off with a daily dose of the mayhem on English roads, in English schools and in the English NHS to show us that we are not too stupid to govern ourselves so that we have better hospitals and education than Westminster can manage. Asking the old folk to watch the news with that in mind could change a lot of feeling about how its better to be British.

Good Morning Scotland had a good discussion of this and other things this morning, for once. The news editor Gary Smith? seemed confident it would go ahead. They are now going to ask their focus groups what they think and – drum roll – show them a pilot programme.

Amazingly, the widely publicised focus group rejection was based on NO information whatsoever. They hadn’t seen an example. They thought it would be an hour of Jackie Bird talking about local issues as usual.

It’s possible they are actually reading WoS now for their consumer research. Say we’re not going to produce a Scottish Six. Read the reaction as – too late now, we want our own broadcaster. Hurriedly stick Scottish Six back on the table.

Another excellent cartoon BTW. You’ll have had your holidays then!

Dave McEwan Hill says:
17 September, 2016 at 9:28 am
After having Nicola Sturgeon’s huge contribution during the week the National has a big article from Alex Salmond today.

Press and Journal have Alex Salmond as a weekly columnist so what’s your point? At least with the hard core tory yoon P&J, you know exactly that they want the same as the BBC, a tory UK.

National presented very fringe left RISE as some kind of major force in Scotland, last GE. They were clearly following the rest of the press in heavily boosting the fringe left but as soon as the Scottish GE was over, they were all disappeared, and not just by the voters.

Why would the whole of our noble and honest British media in Scotland boost RISE so hard, then ditch them Dave?

Its just that, watching noble and honest BBC etc desperately trying to destroy Corbyn for being a far left unelectable commie, its a bit disorientating, for the consumer of the relentlessly tory UK media, is why I think the National is a con.

Good cartoon Chris.

Ref the National. I posted this on the last thread but also relevant in this one.

TheItalianJob says:
Good cartoon Chris.

Ref the National. I posted this on the last thread but also relevant here on this discussion.

I read with interest the conflicting discussions on the pros and cons of the National. I personally think that the National is a good paper and does give good well balanced articles from a variety of pro Independence politicians and spokespersons e.g. Business for Scotland which was very prominent in putting across the financial ability of an Independent Scotland during Indyref1.

I also see the contra argument that the paper is part of a family of Newspapers that is of the Unionist persuasion. This is what appears to irk some contributers to this site. They see it as us Indepedence supporters as paying for a newspaper group that is possibly in a bit of a financial hole. I think we need a balance view and the National does provide that. Also to a certain degree the Herald and the Scotsman do provide a balanced view at times, with the odd articles, and this needs to be acknowledged.

The MSM newspapers that are really the ones that do not provide a balanced view are the ones we should be more wary of and we are. These of course include the express, mail, telegraph etc. These we need to counter and denounce as Stu does on a daily basis.

The main high points and positive aspects of Scotland that the MSM and the TV stations (primarily the BBC) do not report, unfortunately, is the good progress that our Scottish Parliment and government is achieving in all sorts of matters ranging from health and education to the countries infrastructure projects and so on.

They can’t however as they (the UK government) know this would swing the cause for Independence well over the required numbers for a majority. A point in fact to this is the hidden McCrone report which stated such a scenario if this was made public at the time.

We Independance supporters are living in interesting times. Many of us are impatient but history (Brexit) had served us with an unexpected second chance so soon after the first in 2014 which is quite remarkable.

This time we have many more aspects in our favour than last time.

1. The Labour Party in Scotland no longer exists as our main Westminster representatives.
2. The promises made by the BT have not come to fruition (as we knew they would) and the majority of the Scottish people now see this.
3. The main perpetrators of BT have all now gone including David Cameron and George Osbourne et al.
4. The current PM and their administration are in disarray due to Brexit and having no plan in place for this.
5. We are starting from a much higher support for Independance now ~48% vs ~28%, in 2014.
6. We have a large number of strong MPs representing us in the Westminster government who stand up for Scotland on a weekly basis. Although as a whole number in Westminster they have a constant fight on their hands.
7. We still have a committed Yes movemnent and we will learn from the past issues that helped to defeat us in the 2014 ref.
8. The next BT team will not be fronted by Scottish Labour MPs as they only have one and Labour in Scotland and they know how toxic that turned out to be.
9. If the next BT team is to be fronted by ex Labour MPs (most of which will have to be dragged from the HOLs) and Tories they will be on a hiding to nothing.
10. We have support from other EU member states and their representatives which will help our case for Independence.

Looking at all of the above and I’m sure I’ve missed a few more, I can’t think of anything more
positive for the Independence movement going forward. Albeit we will have a fight on our hands nonetheless.

As K2 added above in the words of our famous bard “It’s coming yet for awe that”.

Here’s to us. Keep the faith. Goodness wins and we are good.

Dave McEwan Hill @ 9:28am.

The National is placatory pablum. Nothing radical.Available to soothe those suffering the “slings and arrows” of the Unionist Assault.It needs a bit more edge and attitude.
Same can be said for iScot magazine.

There is always Euronews which give a different prospectus, but is more difficult to access.

Reporting ‘Planes taking off from Lossiemouth Scotland to bomb Syria’, without qualification. Scotland voted not to illegally bomb Syria or for Westminster lies.

Theresa May , ‘Scotland didn’t vote for EU membership two years ago’. YES they did. Some people lied to by Unionist politicians voted NO for EU membership.

Theresa May is wasting £Billions on Hinkley Point nuclear station. It will be years late and over budget. Obsolete by the time it is finished. Totally contaminating. The last two built – France/Finland (7 years) were year’s late and £Billions over budget. The Tories are flying dangerous nuclear waste around the the world but complaining about ‘terrorisism’. Deplorable. There are much cheaper, more efficient, safer, renewable alternative.

The Tories are wasting £Billions on HS2. A total expensive waste of £Billions of public money. It will make journeys’ throughout Britain take longer and be more expensive. Damaging the UK economy. The investment should be have made improving the present system. Quicker, cheaper, safer and less disrupting. The Tories are doing it to line the pockets of them and their associates. Syphoning off, illegally embezzling £Billions of public money. Against the majority interest and the public interest.

Cameron and Osbourne were two of the worst politicians the UK has every had. Greedy criminals. There is something seriously wrong with the English education system. Pride and privilege replace decency, justice, equality and caring.

Who needs papers when Wings is about. A larger readership. Thanks to every one going to the Independence Rallies. Thanks to Glasgow/Edinburgh for the millions who can’t go. Demographics. Thanks a million. Might see it on RT.

Arbroath

It would be entertaining to see his answers but to be honest anybody that calls Rangers “The Queen’s Eleven” is not all there so I wouldn’t hold out much hope of getting a sensible answer.

Nobody wants it in Scotland. Lets face it, it’s depressing rubbish.

I think you have got it right there HaS. 😛

I’m sure I read somewhere Ken that the Finnish nuke power station was still not operational because they still had problems. As for HS2/HS3 I seem to recall that the HS sttions are going to be on the outskirts (sort of) of Birmingham etc. This means that anyone fancying a wee burl on an HS2 train would have to go by “normal” train to somewhere like Birmingham New Street, disembark their train, walk to the taxi ranks and catch a taxi to the HS station, walk on to the platform. All this will take time and being Birmingham will I suspect take upwards of an hour to complete. Net result you will be arriving in London around 20 minutes AFTER your original train … probably. 😀

No doubt those in the know will correct me on anything I have got wrong here. 🙂

“I think we need a balance view and the National does provide that”

Well then they need to say that them. Buy the National for the balanced view, we’re neither pro or anti Scottish independence, would be a lot fairer sales pitch. Logic dictates that out of say 37 papers, all the BBC, STV, ITV, C4 etc, a new newspaper might be a full indy backer, but what can you do.

If UKOKhackdom’s lips are moving, they’re lying.

Also, what’s with the weird National front page, or why are they using Scottish democracy as a kind of all new and exciting news testing thing? We all know its getting enough proud Scot but conservative minds to change to YES and/but they’re clearly not going to go for the National new and exciting comedy front page. But then that’s not the market Herald dudes are going after is it.

If the National wants to prove it’s worth it would invite WoS to do a weekly column.
Some of it is so mundane it feels like reading a Sunday supplement half the time.
No grit, no teeth
Simple at that.

What a very impressive National this morning. And two different front covers (to make us all buy two copies?) I’m buying several extra copies anyway to send to relatives everywhere.

Alex Salmond, Elaine C Smith, Sheena Wellington, Hugh MacDonald, Henry McLeish, Mhairi Black, Pat Kane, Wee Ginger Dug, Tommy Sheppard.
Of course, it’s all a unionist trick?

Actually the contribution to it that rang the most bells for me was Sheena Wellington’s

Said it before and I’ll say it again… What is the point of a pro-Indy newspaper which soft unionists and undecideds just dismiss as a propaganda sheet and never bother picking it up to read? “McPravda” as Foulkes dubbed the National at its launch.

We NEED constructive engagement with people who voted No two years ago, to make them think, and encourage them to vote YES next time. A narrow pro Indy fanzine simply wouldn’t do that.

Never mind worrying if the National is pro or anti, focus on whether it is good and stimulating progressive debate, or piss poor like all the unionist rag sheets which I wouldn’t use to line a budgie’s cage.

It’s a bit like espionage. I once read Peter Wright’s Spycatcher, about the exposure of Kim Philby, and while it was mostly very dull, the one thing I recall is intelligence being a horse trading exercise. Forget the James Bond type spying. Catching a spy with his hand in a safe full compromising material by itself meant nothing, because spies had to trade away confidential data to gain trust in order to secure confidential data in return. In order to expose someone as a spy for the enemy meant an extensive audit of the secrets sold for the secrets learned. Crudely put, it was a profit and loss account. A good spy would reveal a healthy credit balance, whereas a suspect spy would be overwhelmingly in the red. No single transaction meant anything without understanding it’s context. That’s how I see pro and anti Indy articles in the National. There has to be some give and take or it doesn’t work.

I would agree that we need much more positive Indy representation in the media, but not shitty propaganda cut from the same cloth as the narrow minded Unionist garbage which nobody except a scatterbrained unionist can take seriously.

Eyes on the prize people. We need fewer unionists and more Independentists, and that means a conversion process rather than an all out battle where everybody is driven into their trenches.

Am I telling folks to hold their tongue? Not a bit. Grumble away, just don’t go daft. I think there’s a fair to middling chance a National which incurs the wrath of the occasional cybernat is that bit more likely to be read by a curious unionist, who might then perhaps read the column or article penned by Alex Salmond, Angus McIvor, or WGD etc, and stumble upon somebody making sense.

Shortly after it’s launch, the National said it would critical where appropriate and complimentary where merited. Frankly, yeah. I can live with that.

Well since it was not the indy movement that wanted the hour long Scottish yoon fest does that mean Scottish yoons just got told they are not worthy by their English yoon masters jeez that is got to hurt proud Scot buttheads.

Nice one Chris lol

Ach, who wants an hour of BBC propaganda instead of 30 minutes every night anyway? A Scottish Six certainly had symbolic value, but does anyone expect it would have been better quality or less “British”? Nah, the Establishment have done us a favour. They haven’t been very smart about it though. If they had granted a Scottish Six, they could still control it covertly and it would stall any shouts for more broadcasting control in Scotland. But no, such is their fear, they do not even want to allow this. All they have done is raise the hackles yet further.

The Scottish people have swallowed a lot, but one day they are going to tell WM where to go. We are not quite there yet IMO – still at least half the population are not with us, but there is only one direction this is travelling. IMO when we reach the tipping point and more than half of the population want independence “today”, then the gloves will well and truly be off and you will see just what the Scottish government can do. Until then we have to bide our time. We need the majority of people on our side, but when this happens, nothing can stop us. What are they going to do then? Send in the tanks? Aye, that would end well, eh.

Be patient, don’t shout, but do continue talking. Talk as much as you can to soft NOs. Don’t try to convert them on the spot, but work on them, Plant those Indy seeds in their minds. Some of them are already listening 🙂

@Proud Cybernat

Well done with the fundraiser and I hope to see lots of these wee stickers all over the place. I hope in fact it’s not too long before another fundraiser so as we can get more and more.

These things work, just think “Red Tories Out!” or “Aye Right”.

Your weekend reading:

For yesterday: link to wp.me
For tomorrow: link to wp.me

@ Breeks
What is the point of a pro-Indy website which soft unionists and undecideds just dismiss as a propaganda blog and never bother clicking in to read?

Breeks says:

Said it before and I’ll say it again… What is the point of a pro-Indy newspaper which soft unionists and undecideds just dismiss as a propaganda sheet and never bother picking it up to read?

And what is the point of you carping on about the National for months on end? Seriously, what is your motivation for this gigantic effort? Would a boycott help the Indy cause or harm the yoons in any way? Nope, so what is your point exactly?

If you had spent a fraction of the effort against the National in actually speaking to soft NOs, instead of annoying fellow YES voters, jeeez you could have added at least 100 YES votes.

Just sayin. 🙂

I see the Tories petition is a thing. Our local Tories are out with one too. No queues though. While I was doing my shopping I saw about 4 people sign…their combined ages could take us back to the Act of Union 🙂

I have no doubt that Tories will sign their own petition but what will it tell us? That a fair number don’t want a referendum and a fair number do? I think we know that. If they had won the election then it would have been their call. They didn’t so it isn’t.

@Capella I saw on twitter the webcam went down 40mins ago

@HandandShrimp

Looks like its mostly activists and employees.

link to twitter.com

link to twitter.com

One of my indy pals just called me saying he went into a shop and bought a tube of toothpaste and a bottle of mouthwash then went up to the Tory petition and left them on the table saying it will help clear the bad taste of licking English ass 🙂

Very appropriate given that Westminster is stumped on BREXIT. The Rev and the Wingers are the fielders.We pick up the lies and catch them out. The scoreboard shows just about even with several overs to play. We ain’t done yet.
Our best players have still to take the field. Come on Scotland, run them out.

Cricket, bell-ringing & Morris dancing – Franz Ferdinand Sparks acronymously.

Meindevon at 1244pm,

Interesting comments by UKIP. Given there were two acts for the union treaty of 1707 (one in the English parliament and one in the Scots parliament), let’s get down to repealing it up here immediately. `If ever a treaty had outlived its usefulness, it is the disgraceful, unwanted, unfair and undemocratic treaty between Scotland and England in 1707.

Thanks, UKIP.

Is anybody going to be selling those nice shiny new saltires with the EU stars at Glasgow green tomorrow?

@Robert Louis

Lyndsay of Ayemail will be selling Wings flags at the Wings stall, he also had the ones with the EU stars made, as well as the traditional Yes flags so guessing he will have some of those too.

The National IS, merely an average of the collective subjectivity of it’s writers.

Judge it thus. On the character of it’s journalists. Not it’s business plan or whatever.

Now THIS I like GB.

Nor does the Act contain caveats that one nation shall control all power over taxes, money distribution, trade agreements, and foreign affairs. It makes clear the two sovereign nations shall remain so and separate in all but trade and banking.

I wonder … perhaps someone should have a wee word in Nicola’s ear about this part of the Act and maybe suggest she tells Maggie Mk II to hand over ALL powers not covered by trade and banking. At least hat would do as a sort of stand – in until indy ref 2 itself comes along when we can tell Maggie Mk II to just bugger off completely! 😀

Still convincing ‘don’t know’ people even misguided one’s. Bring them over. For final push.The Tories illegal corruption isn’t doing them any good.

Best wishes for the Rallies. Thanks a million. Thanks for the millions who can’t be there.
Demographics. Thanks Glasgow and Edinburgh. Might see it on RT.

I can’t see the caption?

NO to a second referendum = NO to democracy. Those yoon zoomers don’t even have the presence of mind to realise they are basically saying to Ruth nae Truth, “Here, take my democratic will. I don’t want it.”

Effing eejits.

Just for you K1. 😉

link to youtube.com

Agreed Macart. The fact remains we ‘do’ have positive articles reflecting our position, which we did not have pre indyref1. There’s a point where getting bent out of shape on this is counter productive…we just end up arguing amongst ourselves. All opinions are valid, but they are just opinions.

Ye never know if just one soft No sees a National lying about and becomes engaged through that and shifts position then the National has had ‘that’ useful effect.

@K1

Seems only sensible to me. 😉

It seems to be working at the moment Macart. 😉

It was unavailable when it first came up but it turned to live pictures within a couple of seconds. I guess it must be the high volume of traffic. 😀

link to glasgow.gov.uk

@Arb

Just getting ‘image unavailable’ when I link Arb. Ach weel, hoping its a good turnout and a grand day for everyone. 🙂

Valerie says:
17 September, 2016 at 1:17 pm
@Heed 11.21

Do you hear yourself? What’s with the weird front cover of the National? Could you sound anymore curmudgeonly?

We’ll have to agree to disagree. They chose a front page unlike any other to stand out from the crowd presumably. And that appeals to some YES votes. There a lot of YES votes out there and that’s a media market to be tapped.

Is it making any difference, preaching to the choir?

At the last Scottish GE, SNP lost its majority. Virtually all the UKOK media, from the National, to the torygraph, C4 news etc, all gave far left radical’s like RISE massive coverage.

Why would hard core tories give a tiny fringe left group like RISE so much positive and high quality coverage in any election, let alone Scotland’s?

If say the torygraph and The National did not boost RISE for niceness, presumably their cunning plan was to freak out middle and upper class Scotland, pulling them away from any change, like our democracy and independence.

We know that RISE especially were given a vast UKOK media forum to monster everything SNP. Across the UK media and The National in particular stressed at a very high level, how contemporary Scottish democracy and independence was a serious and viable opportunity for far left groups like RISE, who ofcourse eventually won very few votes as we know.

We rarely if ever hear from RISE now, they’ve ofcourse never been seen or heard from again in the Torygraph and C4 news for example. That’s probably not a coincidence.

Ian Macwhirter in particular explained to us that SNP losing majority government was actually a good thing for us, but is it?

And its probably not a coincidence that that Loki dude has recently trousered quite a lot of money from likes of extremely unionist tory Kevin Hague or billionaire JK Rowling.

Why hard core yoon tories like the above and especially Rowling give a lot of money to the fringe left in Scotland?

Niceness.

Buy any paper you want. Its important, really important. My old left o centre progressive and liberal the Guardian’s got great stuff in it today. Nothing about Scotland as per but there’s a great review on latest Audi RS6, only one hundred grand a shot. I’ll take two.

It must be all that heavy traffic that is causing you the problems then Macart. 😉 In the meantime here is some light music as an interval to your viewing “pleasure” of George Square. 😀

link to youtube.com

Scottish six, the marionette being pulled by Westminster.shove it where the sun don’t shine.

BBC Scotland – Designed with English Propaganda in mind.

Newly Branded Shows to match their new Bias is OK Charter-

Strictly England Dancing.Morris Dancing, Maypole,& HornPipe

Coast- England’s and Maritime Waters Stolen form Scotland.

Home & Away becomes Home & Counties North

Neighbours becomes Our Colonies on the same Island.

Highlander becomes People from North of Northern England.

The Alistair Darling Buddies of Teresa May.

This cartoon is brilliant on many levels.

1. Little Britnatters agin the Windies, India, Pakistan, all great furrin cricketing nations, but it goes further it’s Britnattery agin a’body.

2. The idea that Britnats don’t want ither members of their proud empire to broadcast stuff that equates to a National Identity is nothing new.

3 A driving 6 down the middle to divide and rule.

4. A propaganda drive that even the fittest team couldnae continue to propagate

5. Adolf Hitler respected England to such a degree that they wanted them as allies, or at worst neutral. It nearly worked. They saw behind the Rule Brittania flag waving Britnattery at the height of the empire and wanted to emulate it for a good reason. They have a lot in common.

6. If my history is wrong, it’s because I refused to take part in quoting English king and queens historical down the ages. A part from that, if I’m telling porkies, then as someone to poor to wee and to stupid to have an opinion that counts, I’m only copying the precendent set by the Concervative and Unionist Party in Scotland, eh Ruth

McBoxheid

@Rock, @Effijy, @McDuff

Cobblers. Do any of you ever actually read The National or visit its website? Today’s website front page puts the lie to your “concerns”.

BTW, I have no connection or financial interests in either the National or it’s publishers.

Signed Editor McBoxheid.

Hi McBoxheid, I subscribed to the National, but off loaded it when it didn’t report on major stories that showed the deceit and contempt of our Unionist Masters.

I appreciate that a newspaper should allow discussions from both sides of our referendum, but not when the Unionist side have every other newspaper in the UK and all TV and Radio Station spouting distorted propaganda.

There is enough in the paper to encourage sales to independence supporters, but when push comes to shove, their Unionist owners demand they throw some spanners in the works.

Hope it does turn, and breaks away from the toxic Herald, but I’d seen enough when I cancelled it.

We won’t get control over broadcasting until we get our Independence in 2018 for the reasons laid out by Robert Louis (at 7:55am). And then can you imagine the reaction from Scots when we start beaming, exactly what’s been going on here for over 300 years, right into their living room? When many realise how they have been well and truly duped.

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Meanwhile we’re being informed that the totally BANKRUPT UK isn’t in a position to prevent anyone invading (Hamish100 at 8:45am), as they propose forking out over 200 billion (minimum) on renewing Trident. Trident that can’t detect / eliminate terrorists or blast at oncoming invaders. Three wee patrol boats to cover 7000 miles of UK coastline, including oil fields and nuclear missiles, whilst France has 30 to cover 3000 miles: Norway has dozens; no doubt built in one of their MANY shipyards.

link to msn.com

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Then as we’re reading that a 78 year old man (plus 21 year old) brought a whole fleet of military trucks carrying nuclear warheads to a standstill in Stirling. Dealt with by a HANDFUL of Police.

link to pressandjournal.co.uk

We find that the Royal parasites have been grouse shooting in the Cairngorms NATIONAL Park (Nana 8:30am – last article). And wait for it ……. using DOZENS of soldiers to beat the grouse in their direction.

The steam is coming out of my ears as I type this. By God I can’t wait to get our Independence, get rid of Trident and throw the leeches out: That includes Cameron if he’s thinking of relocating here.

link to raptorpersecutionscotland.wordpress.com

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I see that Smallaxe has been promoting Amnesty International; one of the few International agencies that’s trying to combat human right abuses Worldwide (in the UK too). If you want to know more about what they do join them. It costs as little as £3 a month or £7.50 a year if you are over 60. You receive a very informative quarterly magazine that outlines what’s going on Worldwide and the stories of individuals who have been wrongly imprisoned, tortured and abused. You can then write or email Heads of States pleading for the release of such poor people … and it works believe me. It only takes seconds to email, as an ‘sample’ letter is provided with email address of course. Seconds to save a life. Seconds to put a stop to the horrendous torture.

If you don’t want to join, but want to help, go to http://www.amnesty.org.uk. As an example you’ll find petitions that you can sign such as ….’Save the Human Rights Act’ …. ‘Stop the ritual murders of people (example 2 year old) with albinism’ …. ‘UK Gov must hold Brit companies to account’.

The latter highlights that Vodaphone has been accused of giving GCHQ access to their network for mass surveillance and that BT may be facilitating drone strikes in the Yemen. So as you can see Amnesty is keeping a beady eye on the UK Government.

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I see that the buy / don’t buy The National goes on. I find it pretty scary that many of the ‘don’t buyers’ don’t spend the same amount of time and energy outing the truly biased newspapers in this country. Post some of their lying data on a daily basis. I understand that they have a gripe with the (daily) Herald but lets focus on the real propagadists, as Stu seems to do. As they shut down one by one others may clean up their act.

As I see it this site is visited by many people (thousands) looking for information that they can then use to convince No voters to change their tune. Help change their tune by posting relevant data, found on here – some of which comes from The National and Sunday Herald – all over the Internet or speak to people face to face. Isn’t that what this is all about? Pushing the Yes polling figures up? Getting our Independence? Or NOT?

People like Nana continue to work their butts off to get such data on here (links) and others of course are posting historical information and on the current situation in an attempt to educate people. Trying to shut down one of the few newspapers that’s acting as an educational tool and affording people like Nicola Sturgeon and Alex Salmond a say in what’s going on is absolutely crazy.

Alex has been afforded the opportunity to put his views across again today. Not just a ‘snippet’; and not twisted or distorted in any way at all as per other newspapers. I agree that The National isn’t perfect and could be improved: Improved if more people would buy it and contribute suggestions for improvements / enlightening comments to it. As it stands, however, I’ve come across some really interesting facts that have never been mentioned on here.

And finally I’d like to say that The National is the only online daily newspaper that’s getting the truth about Scotland OUT there: WORLDWIDE. May be read by EU leaders in fact, as I don’t reckon many of them will be visiting Wings. So please start supporting it instead of castigating a newspaper that you probably haven’t even read at all.

Alex: ”We started with 28% support in 2014 and now ….”

link to thenational.scot

And one of his favourite songs:

link to youtube.com

? in my post at 3:19 pm should be a smiley face!!

Watching the Hope Over Fear rally from time to time, there’s not a big crowd. That might explain why the webcam is still working!

Only speakers I’ve heard was a pair from the Scottish Resistance. Painful to listen to. They want to repatriate the body of Mary Queen of Scots and all the state papers purloined by Edward 1st.

There was also a woman speaking against fracking.

The main programme seems to be a succession of musicians, including a sort of karaoke. Not sure this kind of event will recruit a lot of NO voters although I suppose it is harmles enough on a sunny day in Glasgow to hear some music.

PROUD CYBERNAT 11.31

“The stickies have been ordered and should be with me by middle of next week and then with the various distribution teams around the country towards the end of next week (or thereabouts).”

I signed up for stickers when you asked for names and details of individuals willing to go out and place as many stickers as possible here and there. However just to be clear this is something I’m happy and willing to do over a period of time but I’m not a “distributor” as such.

Hope I haven’t misunderstood something about this. But hey whatever if I get x number of stickers to stick then stick them I will, and stick it to the bbc while I’m at it. Hoping to be the first to get the area around PQ covered first.

Hi Robert Louis. Yes my friend I regularly see these programmes in the South West of Ireland and I’m happy to say that almost always when , “The Great British Shite” comes on they change channels!!!

Auld Rock

Reading comments further back, I despair, I really do.

Go ahead then, don’t listen to reason, go ahead and bully the National Editorial into manic support for Independence then sit back and see how many Unionists is converts into YES voters.

And while you’re about it, show me the months of endless carping criticism which I have laid at the door of the National. Show me the feckin words or shut your whiny gob.

O/T

Does anyone know if the Squinty Bridge backdrop screen on BBC (mis)Reporting Scotland (behind Union Jackie Bird) is a live feed or if it is just video footage? If it’s live then I have an idea for another wee project.

Looking at the guest list for this week’s “Would I lie to you?” on BBC television, one name in particular caught my eye. It seems the BBC does have a sense of humour after all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/…/would-i-lie-to-you-series-10-episode-…Joining the teams are Sara Cox, Jason Manford, Nick Robinson and Harry Shearer

Proud Cybernat says:
3:54..

Not sure, they’d probably just fake a video loop, like in ‘speed’.

HoF – Tommy Sheridan has just appeared on stage. Do they expect him to conjure crowds out of the late afternoon shoppers?

Meanwhile, the Westminster Tory Government turns its back on Scottish renewables and instead offers very lucrative deals to the Chinese and the French for Hinckley Point nuclear power station – with another in the pipeline.

So, in say, 20 years time, the Chinese government is going to have a major say in N Sea oil and gas supplies to GB, as well as effective control of 2 mainland UK nuclear power stations.

Keep in mind that the Chinese consider the sites of Chinese owned projects abroad as Chinese territory.

The Tories are like the crew of the Titanic – a series of bad mistakes and now it’s too late to save the ship.
The only question remaining is, will enough Scots come to their senses in time. Or will Scotland’s grave lie next to England’s in the Atlantic Ocean.

I myself have a few questions I’d like answered by The National. But I can say the same for the Scottish Government – in fact even more so. But since I’m far from perfect and regularly make mistakes myself, I tend to cut both some slack, then concentrate on what they do well.

Independence – Unity in diversity.

@dhothersall
Yes, the indyref was divisive as it offered the first opportunity for Scots to debate the status quo of English/British nationalism. Is this not to be welcomed as a vital ingredient of a healthy democracy, all be it one operating within a framework of internal colonisation defined through the Acts of Union?

Your side won, for the time being. Get over it.

We won’t get control over broadcasting until we get our Independence in 2018 for the reasons laid out by Robert Louis (at 7:55am). And then can you imagine the reaction from Scots when we start beaming, exactly what’s been going on here for over 300 years, right into their living room? When many realise how they have been well and truly duped.

……………………………………………….

Meanwhile we’re being informed that the totally BANKRUPT UK isn’t in a position to prevent anyone invading (Hamish100 at 8:45am), as they propose forking out over 200 billion (minimum) on renewing Trident. Trident that can’t detect / eliminate terrorists or blast at oncoming invaders. Three wee patrol boats to cover 7000 miles of UK coastline, including oil fields and nuclear missiles, whilst France has 30 to cover 3000 miles: Norway has dozens; no doubt built in one of their MANY shipyards.

link to msn.com

……………………………………….

Then as we’re reading that a 78 year old man (plus 21 year old) brought a whole fleet of military trucks carrying nuclear warheads to a standstill in Stirling. Dealt with by a HANDFUL of Police.

link to pressandjournal.co.uk

We find that the Royal parasites have been grouse shooting in the Cairngorms NATIONAL Park (Nana 8:30am – last article). And wait for it ……. using DOZENS of soldiers to beat the grouse in their direction.

The steam is coming out of my ears as I type this. By God I can’t wait to get our Independence, get rid of Trident and throw the leeches out: That includes Cameron if he’s thinking of relocating here.

link to raptorpersecutionscotland.wordpress.com

………………………………………

I see that Smallaxe has been promoting Amnesty International; one of the few International agencies that’s trying to combat human right abuses Worldwide (in the UK too). If you want to know more about what they do join them. It costs as little as £3 a month or £7.50 a year if you are over 60. You receive a very informative quarterly magazine that outlines what’s going on Worldwide and the stories of individuals who have been wrongly imprisoned, tortured and abused. You can then write or email Heads of States pleading for the release of such poor people … and it works believe me. It only takes seconds to email, as an ‘sample’ letter is provided with email address of course. Seconds to save a life. Seconds to put a stop to the horrendous torture.

If you don’t want to join, but want to help, go to http://www.amnesty.org.uk. As an example you’ll find petitions that you can sign such as ….’Save the Human Rights Act’ …. ‘Stop the ritual murders of people (example 2 year old) with albinism’ …. ‘UK Gov must hold Brit companies to account’.

The latter highlights that Vodaphone has been accused of giving GCHQ access to their network for mass surveillance and that BT may be facilitating drone strikes in the Yemen. So as you can see Amnesty is keeping a beady eye on the UK Government.

………………………………………

I see that the buy / don’t buy The National goes on. I find it pretty scary that many of the ‘don’t buyers’ don’t spend the same amount of time and energy outing the truly biased newspapers in this country. Post some of their lying data on a daily basis. I understand that they have a gripe with the (daily) Herald but lets focus on the real propagadists, as Stu seems to do. As they shut down one by one others may clean up their act.

As I see it this site is visited by many people (thousands) looking for information that they can then use to convince No voters to change their tune. Help change their tune by posting relevant data, found on here – some of which comes from The National and Sunday Herald – all over the Internet or speak to people face to face. Isn’t that what this is all about? Pushing the Yes polling figures up? Getting our Independence? Or NOT?

People like Nana continue to work their butts off to get such data on here (links) and others of course are posting historical information and on the current situation in an attempt to educate people. Trying to shut down one of the few newspapers that’s acting as an educational tool and affording people like Nicola Sturgeon and Alex Salmond a say in what’s going on is absolutely crazy.

Alex has been afforded the opportunity to put his views across again today. Not just a ‘snippet’; and not twisted or distorted in any way at all as per other newspapers. I agree that The National isn’t perfect and could be improved: Improved if more people would buy it and contribute suggestions for improvements / enlightening comments to it. As it stands, however, I’ve come across some really interesting facts that have never been mentioned on here.

And finally I’d like to say that The National is the only online daily newspaper that’s getting the truth about Scotland OUT there: WORLDWIDE. May be read by EU leaders in fact, as I don’t reckon many of them will be visiting Wings. So please start supporting it instead of castigating a newspaper that you probably haven’t even read at all.

Alex: ”We started with 28% support in 2014 and now ….”

link to thenational.scot

And one of his favourite songs:

link to youtube.com

Ah, the slap of leather on willow!
MPs and Lords pay good money for that sort of thing, don’t they? dying minutes, Tavernier squares up to take a free kick, and Peter L’s colloquial English deserts him in the excitement.
‘Tavernier needs to throw one of his balls into the area.’

On the ball, as usual, Cairns.
Second belly laugh of the day. Peter Lovenkrands (spelling?)commenting on the RFC Ross County game. In theNow I’m sure that the RFC management team expect Rangers players to give their all until the final whistle, but this did seem a tad above and beyond. 0-0 at the wind up.

I’ve tried to post something on here three times. Anyone else having trouble with posting?

@ Petra – not so far but I dip in and out. Thought everyone was watching tennis/football/HoF or out sunbathing.

@Naina Tal

Hahaha I like your style Naina, neh mer lurkin noo 🙂

Luigi
Scotland’s cultural commodification to an appropriate English/British standard of ‘civilisation’, is a vital component of internal colonisation.

The BBC is the ‘illuminated shop window display’ of British nationalism, which is built on the foundation of symbolic violence against a Scottish identity. You could say it all started with Daniel Defoe (born Daniel Foe).

@ Sevrin Carol
One might say semiotics is a medium for both cultural suppression and emancipation? Should only use the force, those who chose correctly between good and evil, no?

Kezia Dugdale wants all Brexit options explored- apart from independence vote

link to archive.is

Warning: Mug shots included

This week’s BBC MISREPORTING SCOTLAND news highlights.

Enjoy…

link to youtube.com

Okay. So I never ask anything from my fellow Wingers- I am asking you now:

Please give a fiver or a tenner or whatever you can to Sarah Johnstone, a lovely girl and a hero of the revolution. She has hiked all the way from the death star to raise money for food banks in Scotland. A true Scottish hero. Please give what you can afford.

Thanks xxx

link to gofundme.com