Wings Over Scotland

The Scots Tory credo is that we must stay British forever even when it’s detrimental to Scotland.

Oh dear typifies Scottish political class, not the activists.
Keep up your good work Stu. ?

No shit sherlock…….

Great article by Andrew Neil in today’s Daily Mail.
I actually think that quite a few posters on here would agree with a lot of his conclusions.
His comments regarding the standard of MSP’s of all parties is just so pertinent to the current mediocrity being shown in Holyrood.

Labour national debt record
1997-2009 increased national debt from £400b to £1000b.
Then Tory’s said we needed austerity for 10 years to get that debt cleared
Tories took over 2009-2019 (not including corona debt in this)
Over £2,000 Billon.
They more than doubled our national debt try to eradicate it!

Now with a sea of corrupt Tory Emergency contracts hiding under the Covid carpet
I’m confident they can add another £Trillion in there.

The punch line from the above Tories, but an Independent Scotland would rack up debts? FFS

How anyone could vote for that is beyond me and always will be.

Was listening to Call Kay with an E the other morning, and an Ex Scottish Twig officer, can’t remember was basically saying that Scotland had to be allowed to have a referendum if the majority of Scots vote for it, I wonder if that is why he is an ex staffer now, but made a lot of sense, should have run for Dross’s job, was the day Ruth Wishart was on, possibly Monday 16th.

It was strange as the Pravda Quay must have been preselecting Unionist callers as everyone said no to a referendum , one Cnut when asked why Scotland couldn’t be a successful Indy nation if the likes of Lichtenstein and Malta could and they are a lot smaller without resources basically turned round and told Kay with an E he said he didn’t believe that, and when quizzed on Lichtenstein, said he didn’t even know if that was a nation.

But to cut the story short, Unionists are dumb f@cks

Think Johnson is actually wrong. Devolution was actually a bit of a power grab.

Until Devolution the path to independence, or at least a referendum, was simple.

Elect enough MPs for Scotland with independence in their manifesto and that was it.

Now we’ve got what was probably the original intent of passing that on to Holyrood where the election system, or even it’s current incarnation, was there to make unlikely a pro indy majority would be achieved.

Or as that now seems more likely it’s now an SNP majority followed by an SNP majority of votes cast in both regional and constituencies and so on.

But with the added twist that now there’s an insistence on a mystical s30 that requires, so we’re led to believe, that permission must be gained from the Westminster Government.

So we’ve gone from a simple democratic situation where it was conceded that the people of Scotland alone could elect representatives who could then either negotiate independence or push for a referendum to one where that is no longer said to be the case.

That omits the obvious interpretation of the Treaty and Acts of Union where our representatives were the MPs we elected, and the Lords, and obviously, prior to devolution, if ever there was a pro-independence majority they would act on Scotland’s behalf as far as that treaty goes. The Parliament Act would nullify the Lords in matters of manifesto pledges.

So it might be argued that in the case of s30s on this topic it’s up to the Scottish Grand Committee to agree to the transfer of power to legislate from “Westminster” to “Holyrood”.

Otherwise the reality is that we’ve been scammed. That the result of devolution has been a transfer of power from our MPs to the Westminster Government of the day rather than to our MSPs.

So the devil in the devolution detail is that it’s worked against our best interests. I’m now paranoid enough to think that this latest “gaffe” is a trick to get us to unthinkingly champion devolution.

Small nations like Scotland can’t make it?
There must a hundred nation with similar or lesser populations
who are happy to run their own country and who don’t want
Westminster robbing them blind.

To the North Iceland has done very well recovering from the global recession
and they jailed their corrupt bankers rather than giving them knighthoods.

To the West we see the Celtic Tiger doing better at recovery than the UK
Pensions much higher than here, better Covid management and a proud
Seat within the EU- The Worlds biggest trading block.

To the East we have Norway, the country that found oil when Scotland did,
No debt, great infrastructure, great pensions, an oil fund with £110,000 in it
for every man woman and child in the nation.
Less than 300 Covid deaths there as they managed it properly!

We can go South to Luxembourg, a very small nation that is the richest per capita in Europe.

Scotland under Westminster is going South too.
Right down the plug hole.

The garbage unionist get to waste breath on?

.. a good one from George Kerevan on Conter:

link to conter.co.uk

Not just the tories kapelmeister.

link to youtube.com

On the subject of parties not reading the room.
I wittered away before on the idea that with Labour in Scotchland’s low membership, it could be possible for a load of folk to join and steer the party to being pro-indy. Might be an easier task than influencing the SNP to get with the program!
There most defo would be a place for a proper Labour style party in an Indy Scotland.

link to twitter.com

Tommy Shepherd on Sky News let a Tory walk over him
for wanting more than the Devolution Boris grudges?

There was lie after lie and misinformation but Tommy
was comatose letting have it all his own way.

Are SNP training MP to stay quiet while being run over malicious lies?

I’ve seen more fight in a gold fish with one fin.

SOG

The inaction on the Werrity Report says it all. If the Scottish Government can’t even take action on rampant criminality and a groundswell of public opinion that wants driven grouse shooting banned, then what hope is there for actions that require more mettle.

Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform, Roseanna Cunningham is due to retire next year. For the sake of all the eagles, harriers and peregrines that have blown out of the sky or poisoned, never mind the lasting damage done to Scotland’s reputation, I hope she takes the opportunity to come clean about why she has sat with arms folded and done nothing, absolutely nothing.

Alas no matter what, the Scottish Tory branch office is loyal to the London Tory HQ Scotland comes a distant second, or third.

That Tory is obviously a liar. As he or she probably bends over and takes it up the ass daily from Westmidden Tories, just like the SNP group there and at Holyrood.

Brian Doonthetoon says:
Good one

do you have a link to the mem of boris and the talk he gave about the scots hanging on westminster’s coat tails

I am looking for the one of Boris making his contempt for scots clear for a unionist friend

At the moment he might agree with closing the Scottish parliament but I want the ones that show the contempt the hold for Scots

Farage – “the scots are biddable dogs that will come to heel”

Boris – we take their whisky, oil and lots of other stuff and still they are desperate to cling to our coat tails.

@ shug

A clip of Boris though don’t think it is the one you refer to.

link to twitter.com

The Farage line was dealt with by The Ferret and looks to be untrue.

link to theferret.scot