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Ian Brotherhood

A curio from 1931 – Gandhi’s very first ‘telly’ interview.

link to youtube.com

Jim Thomson

Complete change of scene. Have some thoughts for these guys and their colleagues around the coast.

This is effectively a “training run”. Still imagining the bruises the crew must have suffered.

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

@Jim Thomson –

God almighty. I feel quite nauseous…

Brian Doonthetoon

Did you see the guys crossing Victoria Falls on a slack wire today?

Made me rather queasy…

link to euronews.com

Ian Brotherhood

@Brian Doonthetoon –

And this…totally effing mental stuff.

Praise God!

link to youtube.com

Brian Doonthetoon

JEEZ! He’s doing that without a condom! Sorry – without any protection; no wee ring round the wire to catch him if he falls.

Does he not realise what a mess would be left on the road if he hit it? Has he no consideration for the street sweepers? They’d need a big scraper…

Tackety Beets

@ CtP
I’m not “techy’ but have noticed when I post from my i-pad it takes a while to show up .
I can post from i-pad then jump onto my Mac and its already on screen , yet does not show up on i-pad , even when I re hit the topic selection at the top . The mysteries of the www

I’ll follow your post suggestion next time ,

Thanks

crazycat

@ Brian

Just looked at your badges information – really helpful, thanks.

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi crazycat.

I noticed that indyref2’s badge designs were at 45mm – must be for 50mm or bigger badges as they’d be no use for 38mm.

Onnyhoo, over in Dundee, we’ve got a wee badge-making cottage industry going.

See you on the 22nd? YES Bar or Horseshoe? Nobody, except for me and Alex Clark and Ronnie, has gone along with the suggestion of moving the get-together to the Horseshoe, in the interests of more seats and cheaper gigglejuice.
(See my post on the previous page of ‘off-topic’.)

link to wingsoverscotland.com

AuldA

@Ian:

Dancing on a high-wire:
link to youtube.com

@Brian D.:

He has magnetic soles.

Jim Thomson

@Brian & @Ian high wire walking – torn between them. The Chicago one had a steadied/guyed wire and he was using a balance pole but, and a HUGE but (sorry for the imagery 😉 ) is he wasn’t using any safety line. I wonder how often he practices falling off and grabbing the wire :-/

The Vic Falls one no balance pole and no guying of the wire so it was swaying, plus very wet from spray. They did have safety lines though. Possibly greater skill required (even if Health and Safety rules gave them a much reduced risk).

Oneironaut

@Brian Doonthetoon
Sorry for lack of response. I’m not always on here these days. Especially in November…

As for the origin of my name, I like seeing if people can figure it out… 😉 *evil grin*

Jim Thomson

Bearing in mind that the weather’s getting a bit damp over the next wee while, a salutary tale from The Big Yin.

link to youtube.com

Apologies for the grubby quality of the video …

Natasha

I’m happy to go to the Horseshoe if that’s what people prefer.

AuldA

@Natasha:

I vote for the Horseshoe too.
The name suits my pony self.

Paula Rose

Natasha honey – we could arrange for a rickshaw to criss-cross the street at regular intervals!

Brian Doonthetoon

I haven’t visited either but both Alex and Ronnie seemed to suggest that the Horseshoe was a better bet for the get-together.

Nothing to stop anyone nipping across to the YES Bar for a pint…

Paula Rose

Have we sorted out the question of plastic glasses? I shall of course have my glass slippers for the good boys.

Paula Rose

A PINT! Does the Horseshoe do cocktails?

AuldA

@Paula:

Plastic glasses? You mean, for the spectacles?

Paula Rose

AuldA honey – every wings nite out is a spectacle, so far we’ve had skinny dipping, dancing, dangerous sports, decameron and domestic science.

Natasha

Skinny dipping?!!! I never thought I’d be posting these words on this forum, but No Thanks!

Natasha

Swami Backverandah – DO YOU WANT A LIFT ON THE 22ND?!! Repondez s’il vous plait. 🙂 (If you didn’t see my first post, just let me know and I’ll explain).

Paula Rose

too late Natasha too late – that was the nite out at Inverwotsit

crazycat

@ Brian

I shall be in Glasgow on the 22nd for the RIC conference. I was intending to go into town to see who was where after it finishes (5pm in theory; will take a while to get from the SECC and I haven’t decided yet whether to get the train up to Glasgow – in which case I need to be back in the town centre anyway – or drive; parking after 6 would be free) plus or minus any hangers-on I may have with me.

Hope to see you there. (Horseshoe or YesBar)

Michael McCabe

Cant post a song up as my computer is knackered. So could someone post Roy Orbison. Crying as that is what I feel like doing. Cheers. Aye till I die.

Natasha

Michael, you need Peter & Kate.

link to youtube.com

I have no idea if this will work; never posted a link before.

Natasha

Aaargh!! I deleted the http:// bit, how did that show up?

Natasha

Stu, please don’t kill me.

Natasha

Just checked up the page; seems to be ok if the http bit is there. Is that right?

Paula Rose

Michael McCabe dearest – this one…

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose
crazycat

@ Natasha

I think the trick is to remove the http bit in what you type/copy – it will then be reinstated to make a usable link once you have submitted your post, in the same way that you can’t see that the link is blue and clickable until it actually appears on here.

Natasha

Thanks crazycat, that’s exactly what I did, so it must be okay; I was just a bit alarmed!

Paula Rose

For my dear Michael McCabe

link to youtube.com

Michael McCabe

Thank you Natasha and Paula Rose. You have both lifted my spirits. Cheers.

Bugger (the Panda)

AuldA

Plastique Bertrand?

The Belgians are very surreal.

AuldA

@BtP:

Yeah, that’s right. Indeed, I remember the quip of a Belgian (whose name, however, I forgot), who said that no country was fitter than Belgium to give birth to surrealism.

@Paula Rose:
AuldA honey – every wings nite out is a spectacle, so far we’ve had skinny dipping, dancing, dangerous sports, decameron and domestic science.

Domestic science? Could you be more specific? 🙂

Taranaich

X_Sticks, sorry I never got back to you, here’s the video:

link to youtube.com

I also did a wee Remembrance Day post:

link to wildernessofpeace.wordpress.com

AuldA

@BtP:

Pandas can be quite boisterous.
link to bbc.com

AuldA

Just received this mail from the U. of Glasgow:

Archive sources substantiate claims that Doctor Who may have graduated from University of Glasgow

New research by archivists supports claims made by Doctor Who that the celebrated Time Lord may at some point have received a Doctorate from the University of Glasgow.

The question of how and when the Doctor was awarded his Doctorate has eluded Whovians for decades. Given his adventures travelling through time and space, keeping the world safe from evil monsters, it is perhaps not surprising that the Doctor’s matriculation record is less than straightforward.

Revelations made in the episode ‘Death in Heaven’, broadcast on Saturday 8 November seemed to answer that question when the Doctor’s companion Clara Oswald referred to the degree he was awarded by the University of Glasgow.

Sometimes I love my job because of what I receive in my mailbox.

Paula Rose

Out the way folks – discussion of the neolithic and the orkney islands on its way! Me on the neolithic is like Robert Peffers on the UK xx

Paula Rose

Oh my! And Dr Who – heaven!

Bugger (the Panda)

@ Grouser

re English Establishment and Nazi symp[athies

link to fpp.co.uk

Be warned!

This is the site of Nazi historian David Irving.

and the newish finder

link to theguardian.com

by the way read the Guardian article first and see what the author was up against from IPC.

I have no idea who owned Homes & Gardens at that time?

It is of an article written by one Ignatius Phyre ( a pseudonym) about Adolf Hitler’s Berghof home and is as hagiographic as you can even imagine.”

This from an earlier fag end post.

Paula Rose

AuldA honey – I study the neolithic, it is of particular interest to me – as a theatre designer I find the lay-out of major sites such as the Brodgar peninsular fascinating, one has to bear in mind the demographic of the society and the early development of keeping cattle. The lay out of Skara Brae has puzzled archaeologists – it is no puzzle to those who ken the kine.

Alex Clark

Hello Paula

Got your glad rags on? Let’s party 🙂

link to youtube.com

AuldA

@Paula Rose: I was sure you would be enrapt by this Dr Who’s scoop.

@Clootie:
link to ancient-wisdom.co.uk

I have mixed feeling about this site. While I agree (and it is beyond doubt) that the neolithic people had made significant astronomical discoveries, I can hardly believe they had any notion of the precession of the equinoxes. This is a cycle that spans tens of thousand of years, and it can hardly be discovered absent the use of advanced mathematics and writing. The site is right in mentioning that Greeks benefited from Babylonian and Egyptian discoveries, but precisely because they both used writing. Aristarchus of Samos could not have discovered the precession without access to their work, no more than Kepler could have formulated his three laws without access to the observations of Tycho Brahe. Advanced astronomy (in particular predictions) relies on computation that you cannot carry without assistance from a written medium.

The metonic cycle, spanning just 19 years, could possibly be discovered, because it is well within the life expectancy of neolithic people (that hardly exceeded 40 years). So this is a more reasonable hypothesis.

The site seems to mingle confirmed and solid scientific discoveries with fancy theories, probably implying that they both have the same value. That’s flimflam for me.

AuldA

@Paula Rose: you design theatres? Amphitheatres?

You mean that the shape of those houses were designed to harvest and shelter cattle? But which type of cattle?

X_Sticks

Thanks Taranaich bookmarked the video for later and found your blog moving.

Derek Bateman has just posted something in a similar vein.

link to derekbateman.co.uk

It seems many of us are struggling with the ‘normalisation’ of militarism that our ‘Great britain’ seems to revel in these days. remembrance is good, celebration is abhorrent.

I have ceased to wear any sign of support for it too.

Paula Rose

Only you honey xx

link to youtube.com

Alex Clark

Celebrating war is despicable. It is the lowest of the low. I’ve played this before and it is meant to shock.

No one can celebrate war it makes me sick.

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

Aye – what is so funny about this…

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

um – The perfect naughty reprobate, are we doing maudling or dancing tonight?

here’s 15 mins of genius

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

Is he really asking?

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

@Alex –

Must’ve missed that first time you posted it. Powerful indeed.

Lollysmum

@ lex Clark & @Paula Rose

Your choices of music took me back years. I still have my original Yazoo & Alison Moyet cassettes & although I’ve now put them onto a cd I refuse to throw out the tapes-just can’t do it. Spent days copying all my old cassettes to digital fully intending to throw them out afterwards & all I managed to get rid of was two cassettes. The rest I decided were part of my history & each evoked particular memories so now they still sit gathering dust whilst I carry the music wherever I go on my phone. Oh how times have changed.

Thanks for the unexpected memories

Natasha

Hi guys
Various people are being horrid to me; can you cheer me up? Tell me you love me, or something. 🙁

Lollysmum

@ Alex Clark

Hmm not impressed by Johnny Cash. Saw him at Carlyon Bay in Cornwall in the early 80’s & can honestly say that its the first & only time I’ve ever felt depressed after a concert. My husband was not impressed by me-said I had no taste!

Paula Rose

Lollysmum – remember this?

link to youtube.com

cos my baby does good sculptures!

Lollysmum

@ Paula Rose

2nd attempt-1st one disappeared

More memories-I was at Lossiemouth when this came out-what a wonderful couple of years stationed there as an aircraft engineer. Vague memories of dancing on tables after imbibing a lot of brandy & babycham 🙂 Happy days.

Ian Brotherhood

Test – comments not appearing on main thread…anyone else having bother?

Don’t tell me it’s another one of those effing ‘nfl’ scenarios…

Paula Rose

Natasha honey – you are dearly loved by moi, I love this – not so keen on the beards though…

link to youtube.com

do you need more cuddles?

Ian Brotherhood

For Paula Rose.

The Best Beards and Moustaches in The World.

Go on – pick a winner!

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

Oi!

What happened to me avatar at 11.22?!

Eh?

crazycat

@ Natasha

If you’re still here, or see this in the morning – I’m looking forward to meeting you on the 22nd – pedants with ‘A’ level physics have to stick together 🙂

I realize that prospect may not cheer you up! Paula and Ian know I’m harmless, though.

CameronB Brodie

In case folk haven’t seen this map. Might be useful? Cracking Chomsky vid Ian. Cheers.

link to ukdataexplorer.com

Oneironaut

@crazycat
Can I meet with you two as well? 🙂

I don’t have any ‘A’ levels, but I like trying to sneakily exploit imagined loopholes in the laws of physics anyway! 😀

AuldA

@CrazyCat:
That snide remark on A level was for me?
No worry, I won’t disturb you the 22nd.
I will be cantering elsewhere 🙂

@Natasha:
We all love you, we’re all attracted to you like matter toward a black hole…
(Don’t physicists have a knack for romantic wooing?)

Let’s trot…

Jim Thomson

@Lollysmum 10:32pm

You’ve never been depressed until you’ve listened to at least one Leonard Cohen track … hand me the rope/gun/poison right now 🙁

Jim Thomson

and just to brighten up a dull morning, one of the best “plinky plonk” tunes ever – I give you Supertramp

link to youtube.com

I always feel sorry for the drummers who have to be boxed in to ensure the sound mix is just right 😉

Jim Thomson

Rosetta live on link to rosetta.esa.int now

AuldA

@Jim Thomson:

The “Stranger song”? (As far as I’m concerned, better French version by Greame Allwright:
link to youtube.com)

Thanks for the link on Rosetta. That’s indeed soaring well above Scotland!

Tartan Tory

Just dropped in to let you know that I’m still thinking about you all and I occasionally peek-in to see what Paula is up to with Ian brotherhood. I’m may no longer be her flavour of the month, but I’ve had my fun with her, so perhaps it’s someone else’s turn. 😉

@ Brian – Spirits have been prety low since the 19th. I’ve retreated into my shell quite a bit and I struggle to see anything positive in a number of life’s avenues. I’ve certainly lost most of my political mojo and I have difficulty talking to people who were on the other side of the divide.

To illustrate the problem, I was talking to a customer of mine a few weeks ago – a Hebridean chap (Benbecula) who has always voted SNP since the early 1980’s. He says that his prime objective was always independence. However, he voted NO! He told me this on the phone, from an oil rig in the North Sea, and I simply couldn’t believe what he said to me. He didn’t feel the SNP had made the case well enough. Now, I don’t even answer his e-mails! Just typing about this is twisting me up. 🙁

Anyway, glad to see there’s still some high spirits about this place.

AuldA

@Tartan Tory:
However, he voted NO!

Some people like to shoot themselves in the foot. That’s how Humanity goes.

crazycat

@ Auld A

I’m sorry you though my remark was snide! It was not intended to be and was definitely not aimed at you – I wasn’t even thinking of you when I wrote it.

The background is this: I am a pedant. I have an ‘A’ level in physics (from 40 years ago) and have more recently been part of a physics research group at a university despite not having studied the subject after I left school. I am planning to go to the get-together on the 22nd. I have been to two previous Wings socials, where I’ve met Paula, Ian and Oneironaut (I’ve also met the latter two on other occasions). I haven’t met Natasha yet (or you).

Natasha said (I think) that she is also planning to go on the 22nd. She definitely said she needed cheering up. She has previously self-identified as a pedant and a person who studied physics to ‘A’ level.

I tried to cheer her up by saying that I hoped to meet her. The rest was jocular. I would be delighted to meet you, too, if either you come to Scotland or I go to France (less likely now that I no longer have relatives in Toulouse).

AuldA

@Crazycat:

Do not worry. I was also joshing when I called your remark ‘snide’! What I was unaware of, is that studying physics up to the ‘A’ level was sufficient to be deemed ‘pedant’! I wonder how I should qualify myself, then… 🙂

What will you be researching on?

I am definitely planning to settle in Scotland, but that project won’t see the light before next Summer at best. I’ll have to find two jobs (one for me and one for my ‘partner’), a suitable house, and figure out everything for the kids. It’s not really a breeze. But I’ll be delighted to meet you too, as well as any other Winger, either in France or eventually in Scotland if everything goes well.

And, meanwhile, sorry for having inadvertently unsettled you!

Ian Brotherhood

@Tartan Tory –

Good to see you here again – your absence was noted!

Don’t let it get to ye mister – we’ll get our day of celebration yet, and it’ll be all the sweeter for the waiting.

Taranaich

@X_Sticks: Thanks Taranaich bookmarked the video for later and found your blog moving.

Derek Bateman has just posted something in a similar vein.

Thanks for the link & kind words. One of the starkest things I’ve felt on my yearly trips to America is their approach to the military: it’s something I’ve never felt I could truly reconcile. I respect soldiers as much as I respect any other human being, which is part of the reason why I won’t partake in the tacky nonsense of Remembrance Day. Tesco’s “poppy pizzas,” the cynical and manipulative reunion of the wee girl with her father on BBC Primetime TV, and so forth. It’s deeply insulting and trivialising when there are thousands of soldiers who are homeless, or having their benefits sanctioned, or being marginalised by the system which took so much from them.

Derek’s blog is horrific. This really stood out:

The BBC has a Head of World War One and is planning coverage to last for the full equivalent duration of the war itself – four bloody years.

I can think of no better way to desensitize the public to such a thing than to stretch it out for the same duration as the war itself. It’s one of the problems of the human psyche, that increased familiarity results in desensitization, and eventually, apathy. Remember the outrage for Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel? Now we’re used to it. The horrors of what went on – goes on – in those countries have happened for so long, broadcast so often, that it’s become normalised. Afghanistan & Iraq are perpetual warzones. Israel is a perpetual occupation. It’s been this way for so long, we can’t imagine it being any other way.

It gets depressing – but then, I remember how other countries have flourished, changed for the better. Look at the Balkans now, compared to 20 years ago; look at the former Soviet satellites; look at the Emirates. It’s not too late for Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel… or the countries of the UK for that matter. But it’s though peace that it’ll be achieved.

crazycat

@ Auld A

There is no connection between pedantry and ‘A’level physics; it is just coincidence that Natasha and I share those characteristics (and a few others, I think). I know a lot of totally unscientific pedants, and more than a few physicists who could do with being a bit more pedantic (especially when writing reports)!

AuldA

@CrazyCat:

Well, I will never call you a pedant.
It’d be the story of the kettle and the pot! 😉

Jim Thomson

sorry folks, still fascinated by the Rosetta/Philae thing.

See live feed here: link to rosetta.esa.int

The thing that’s holding my attention, or rather the person, is the bloke in the brown jacket. I, seriously, want his job! Lolling around in a nice chair, holding court every so often, and generally just wandering about. Even had his feet up on the desk at one point WHILE holding court.

Mind you, the sound is muted so he is probably expounding detailed and complex mathematical solutions to the “we didn’t manage to anchor the lander” issue.

Jim Thomson

RT just had to cut Max Keiser in full flow because of potentially slanderous accusations. Interesting. Wonder if Max will still be in a job tomorrow.

cearc

Rosetta, (the spacecraft not Paula Rose’s little sister)is just so exciting, I was on tenterhooks this morning remembering the launch.

Jim,

re Max K. About whom?

Betty Boop

Just seen Sainsbury’s “Christmas is for Sharing” ad on STV featuring soldiers’ WWI Christmas Day football match. Muat be okay because it was “in association” with the British Legion.

Ye Gods! Cynical or what?

Jim Thomson

@cearc he went on a rant about bankers and how they avoid legal sanctions and slipped in references to Jimmy Saville and how he’d been handed the keys to childrens’ hospitals … at which point the feed went dead and we had a nice image of the Thames with the London Eye in the background

Betty Boop

@ Natasha

@ Crazycat

I’ve met you both and hope I can meet you again on 22nd despite not having an A-level in physics and only being an occasional pedant (although we do have someone at home who is well-qualified in pedantry and physics whom I annoy regularly!). 🙂

Cheers

Betty Boop

@ Tartan Tory

During the campaign, when I realised the uphill struggle we had (canvassing in this area was quite depressing at times), I found solace in Wings and the folks here lifted the spirits.

Your Hebridean customer was obviously “got at” (doesn’t excuse him really) by all the diversionary tactics (lies) employed by the no campaign. I am currently reminding folk of such things whether or not they are interested! I’ve found a degree of joy in being a bit smug 🙂 Well, we have to take comfort where we find it! I remember your spirit in Arbroath, reeling in the no lot.

Don’t be a stranger. Would be good to see you at one of the Wing dings. Join us again and find your wings. 🙂

Natasha

Dear all
Thank you so much for all your loving messages! I’ve only just read them, I’m afraid.

Taranaich, I was dead impressed by your appearance on the video of the Yes Inverclyde meeting.

Finally, I would like to point out that I can’t help being a pedant, I was born that way, and people shouldn’t hold it against me! 🙂 xx 🙂

Natasha

@Tartan Tory
I met a lifelong SNP supporter who was voting No when I was out canvassing. They do exist; they’re examples of how people manage to compartmentalise their thinking so that they don’t have to face up to uncomfortable truths.

It’s also really upsetting when people you like and respect take decisions which you know are based on cowardice, ignorance or selfishness. It makes you question your own judgement of character, doesn’t it? Especially when it’s something so important.

I don’t blame you for wanting to hole up and lick your wounds; I felt exactly the same on the morning of the 19th when I had to go into work and face the uncomprehending sympathy of my no voting colleagues. They knew I’d be ‘a bit upset’, but to them it was just like commiserating with the losing side of a sports match or something. It meant nothing to them; it simply wasn’t that important. They’d forgotten about it within a couple of days at the most. I was the one with the broken heart.

Stay with us; we’re not going anywhere. xx

cearc

Tartan Tory,

Well if Paula Rose can’t get your mojo working try Muddy Waters.

link to youtube.com

Jim Thomson

Back on one of my stableful of Hobby-Horses.

Why oh why are people (most of whom should know better) using “were” instead of the perfectly serviceable “was” when expounding on any topic and applying it to a singular subject?

Drives me just about as mad as the use of terminal prepositions (that battle is well lost).

Footballers and football pundits who seem to have had avderbectomies and have also forgotten what the word “ultimately” sounds like.

And as for “various different” … aaarrgghhhh!

… and … breathe

Natasha

And I thought I was a pedant! (From a member of the Society for the Preservation of Apostrophes . . . and don’t even get me started on split infinitives). 🙂

Jim Thomson

@Natasha I was also going to have a mini rant about “strategy going forward” that I heard the other morning on the ol’ car wireless.

That was from someone who was some high flying lawyer in a political environment. I would prefer to have political lawyers to have at least a basic grasp of the meaning of words and, in this instance, an entire mini-phrase.

We’re all doomed I tell you, doooomed.

crazycat

Sounds like the 22nd is going to be an Eats Shoots and Leaves event.

Has a decision been taken yet about the venue?

crazycat

Now I’m wondering if decisions are made and votes taken….

Ian Brotherhood

@Jim Thomson –

Personally speaking, that is, for myself, I feel that we should, at this present moment in time, park this to one side, put it on a back burner, unpack it, then flag it up at some later stage down the line and see if it flies or faces challenges.

I did a short stint in a slaughterhouse (more than a decade ago) and remember seeing a colleague being given a five-minute lecture on ‘Best Practise’. His job? Heaving armfuls of still-warm cattle-fat into big shallow buckets.

Betty Boop

@ crazycat

Re venue for Wings on 22nd. Horseshoe or Yes Bar doesn’t matter in terms of finding everyone because they are opposite each other.

What do you all think, however, about the images of Union Flags I see in the windows of the Horseshoe Bar? …

Brian Doonthetoon

And here’s Doon catching up on the last 24 hours or so…

Hi Lollysmum.

“Hmm not impressed by Johnny Cash. Saw him at Carlyon Bay in Cornwall in the early 80’s”

I was there! Well not at the concert but I did spend a few days at the eastern end of the beach in the summer of 1983, that bit where clothing was optional and Paula Rose would have been busy with her double-entendres. Never saw much of Johnny Cash though, above or below the waist…

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Hi Paula Rose.

“cos my baby does good sculptures!”

I have that mispressed single also. I seem to recall that this version was a recording for John Peel’s radio show.

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Hi Natasha and Ian B and Paula Rose.

“The Best Beards and Moustaches in The World”

link to youtube.com

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Hi Jim Thomson.

“You’ve never been depressed until you’ve listened to at least one Leonard Cohen track”

Controversy rears its head! I think Mr Cohen wrote some bra’ tunes. Here’s only one example.

link to youtube.com

And I like “Sisters of Mercy” and “Suzanne” as well. Must be a ‘Doon the toon’ thing…

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Hi Tartan Tory.

Good to read that you’ve resurfaced. I think I posted here, or possibly on Facebook, that when Pete and I got back to Dundee from the Arbroath count, rather subdued, at around 5.30 on the morning of the 19th, I looked up at the saltires hanging from my flat and thought, “I’ll leave them there till Sunday evening.”

Then I went to the wee rally in City Square around 6pm that evening, then the rally in the High Street (and march round the city centre) on the Saturday. I felt a hell of a lot more inspired after these two events. My saltires are still hanging outside my flat…

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Hi Crazycat.

“There is no connection between pedantry and ‘A’level physics”

I’ll repost here that which I posted elsewhere, a number of hours ago…

“All I feel capable of adding to this is that when the flux linking a circuit changes, an emf (electromagnetic force) is induced.
The magnitude of the induced emf is directly proportional to the rate of change of flux linkage.
Furthermore, the induced emf acts in such a manner as to oppose the cause to which it is due.
I’ll hold these thoughts far a day then re-examine through a new lenz…”

I have re-examined – and they still hold true.

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Hi Jim Thomson (again).

“Why oh why are people (most of whom should know better) using “were” instead of the perfectly serviceable “was” when expounding on any topic and applying it to a singular subject?”

What gets my goat is the apparent lack of English language education that TV presenters (particularly of the footballing fraternity) seem to have experienced.

“The boy has collected the ball and went into the box. He’s got round the boy Soap and he’s took a shot into the top corner of the net.”

So wrong! What’s wrong with the simple past tense? (I’ll refrain from any comment on the rest.)

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Hi Betty Boop.

You typed,
“What do you all think, however, about the images of Union Flags I see in the windows of the Horseshoe Bar?”

That doesn’t read too YES-friendly. Perhaps someone of Glasgow habitation could nip in there and find out their allegiance? No point in throwing kally-dosh at a Unionist enterprise.

Brian Doonthetoon

Has anyone else been subjected to

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Guru Meditation:

XID: 2166437362

I don’t believe I have ever meditated with the help of a Guru so I’m bereft of a scooby as to which path to follow.

BTW: That message appeared after I had clicked on “Submit Comment” to post my previous comment. I just went down to the last entry under my “Back” button, clicked on it, and found my comment all present and correct.

The Guru was obviously looking after me…

AuldA

@Brian D.:

This “Guru meditation” error message was famous in the 80s. It was the error message the Commodore Amiga machine spat out when a fatal error (read: a 68000 exception) had occurred. This was usually indicating a serious bug in the code, leading, eg., to the execution of unknown instructions, access to void areas of memory and so forth.

Atari ST (the machine I was using at that time) and old Mac (the computer I use right now) used a different system based on bombs. A number of bombs briefly flashed on the screen, the number uniquely identifying the exception that had arisen (2: bus error, 3: address error, etc.)

That was a good time, a time when you had to know how to program to use your computer. No Internet, so we were exchanging floppies 720 or 1440 KB. We used assembly. Gosh, I remember well this guy, Dominique Laurent, who had authored a full-fledged word processor called ‘Le rédacteur’ entirely written in assembly. Packed with bugs, but quicker than even today’s MS Word.

My first technical articles too…

That was the mournful ramble of the morning.

Jim Thomson

@Betty Boop 11:55pm last night

Just had a look on Google Streetview. The image date is September this year. Hmmmm.

AuldA

“A famous pie with beans or peas”?
Yuck.:)

Jim Thomson

@AuldA

My first micro was a homebuilt Nascom 1 running a Z80 processor with around 8k of RAM (hazy recall). I had to build the PSU as well so that it would only present the supply voltages in a particular order to limit the risk of damage to the components that didn’t like having 5V on them before the 12V supply was available.

It would quite happily take assembler AFTER it had been fed quite a few lines of machine code.

The programme storage (after having written the code to make it all speak to the “outside world”) was via a top end Hitachi tape deck that I specifically purchased because it had a “remote control” socket on the rear (more hardware interfacing devised).

Ahhh, those were the days. Whatever happened to 1979?

The current crop of Raspbery Pis and the like (yes, I have one of the first batch) are all very interesting, but, they don’t lend themselves to teaching the hardware aspects particularly well. It’s been sitting gathering dust from a few days after I received it.

AuldA

@Jim T:

Yeah, Z.80 machines: Sinclair ZX80, ZX81 and other stuff like that. The Z.80 was much more powerful than the 6502 or even the 6809. It’s a pity Zilog missed the 16-bit step-up. I clearly remember the book by Rodnay Zaks (born in Paris, by the way).

I recall using tape recorders, too. Until I bought a Sinclair QL (that was before the Atari ST) that was equipped with ‘micro-drives’ that were as reliable as a Skoda car (remember the jokes about Skodas? How to double the speed of a Skoda? Ans: stop the engine and get it towed).

Then hopefully the floppy disk won the war, and those 1200 bauds FM tapes were retired.

I’ve never had a Pi in hand. Seems a bonny wee device, but now everything is integrated inside the µcontroller so, you’re right, it’s impossible to teach hardware design with that, other than, maybe, crosstalk between lines and impedance concerns (which is more analog/microwave than digital electronics).

Oneironaut

@Natasha
“It’s also really upsetting when people you like and respect take decisions which you know are based on cowardice, ignorance or selfishness. It makes you question your own judgement of character, doesn’t it? Especially when it’s something so important.”

I can sympathise with this. As someone who recently had someone I would have sworn was a definite Yes very proudly admitted to having voted No in a conversation.

To stay I was stunned was kind of an understatement, especially as I’d really come to like and respect this person’s views.

Now, while I try to remain polite and civil to them, I find it increasingly difficult to even stay in the same room as them, let alone hold a conversation with them.
As time goes by, I’m feeling that I should probably just cross that particular social event off my calendar before I end up snapping at them.
Time is supposed to heal all wounds, but I find my anger only increasing as time goes by…

@Betty Boop
“What do you all think, however, about the images of Union Flags I see in the windows of the Horseshoe Bar? …”

I noticed them last time I was there, when me and some people from the SSP were winding down a bit after taking out some of our frustrations at the Labour Gala Dinner protest.

My first thought on seeing those flag windows was to turn to the people with me and go: “Any of you have something heavy?!”

Oneironaut

@Auld A
“Yeah, Z.80 machines: Sinclair ZX80, ZX81 and other stuff like that. The Z.80 was much more powerful than the 6502 or even the 6809. It’s a pity Zilog missed the 16-bit step-up. I clearly remember the book by Rodnay Zaks (born in Paris, by the way).

I recall using tape recorders, too. Until I bought a Sinclair QL (that was before the Atari ST) that was equipped with ‘micro-drives’ that were as reliable as a Skoda car (remember the jokes about Skodas? How to double the speed of a Skoda? Ans: stop the engine and get it towed).

Then hopefully the floppy disk won the war, and those 1200 bauds FM tapes were retired.”

And now I’m off on a rather bittersweet nostalgia trip… hehe 🙂

AuldA

@1ironaut:

My first thought on seeing those flag windows was to turn to the people with me and go: “Any of you have something heavy?!”

The brick!

And now I’m off on a rather bittersweet nostalgia trip…

Those were sweet times before the idea of a society based on fairness and equity was definitely quenched. Somebody labelled the 80s as ‘the decade that saw most utopia die’. This is mostly true.

Oneironaut

@AuldA
As a child of the 80s, I’d have to agree with that…

Happy days 🙂

Also, anyone can throw a brick through a union flag window. I like to add a little more style to things.
For example, throwing an old bottle of bitter ale through it, since “old” and “bitter” are concepts the union is no doubt familiar with 😉

Taranaich

@Natasha: Taranaich, I was dead impressed by your appearance on the video of the Yes Inverclyde meeting.

D’oh, I knew my ruse would not last long! 😀

Paula Rose

Oi darlings – I don’t mind a bit of physics but you binary aficionados are going to extremes!

Current main thread discussing polecats, ferrets and weasels –

I’m going to have some serious words with a lot of you on the 22nd.

AuldA

@Paula Rose:

We were discussion 80s digital age. Eons ago, where everything was yet to be done, and the cyberworld was but a vast desert waiting to be settled. It was the best of times, when we were doing fantastic things using limited ressources. A bit like the Greeks, who were building awesome theaters with limited means.

I’m going to have some serious words with a lot of you on the 22nd.

Hopefully I won’t be there! I don’t like serious words!

Jim Thomson

Careful now @Paula, you’ll get me all worked up about PDP8s and bootstrapping.

There was nothing quite as exciting as entering your bits via the front panel.

Paula Rose

@ AuldA – I can’t discuss my Phd thesis on the quantum mechanics of mitochondrial replication flippantly.

Ian Brotherhood

Here’s another one –

link to i.huffpost.com

Ian Brotherhood

And one more. This creature is either incredibly old or very very young, and it’s impossible to tell which –

link to rack.2.mshcdn.com

AuldA

@Paula Rosa:

I notice you don’t call me honey anymore. That’s because you think I have a bee in the bonnet? Or am I not sweet enough?

By the way, speaking of mitochondria and quantum mechanics, what’s the wave function associated with the reduction of the superoxide ion by the manganese superoxide dismutase?

Ian Brotherhood

Oh FFS!

I posted THREE wombat snaps, and the first one has gone AWOL.

Here it is again:

link to i.imgur.com

Ian Brotherhood

Okay, if wombats don’t do it for you, what about a Coelacanth?

This creature is almost as old as Ming Campbell, and not nearly as boring –

link to thehindu.com

Natasha

@Ian Brotherhood 8.54pm

They say dog owners resemble their pets, but this one is uncanny!

Jim Thomson

Aaahhh, but, do your wombats laugh?

link to youtube.com

Natasha

I meant the 8.50 post of the wombat, but hey, let’s not leave Ming out.

Ian Brotherhood

Not many people know that Ming Campbell won the triple jump gold medal for Great Britain, in Paris, in 1900. Even then, he was the oldest athlete ever to represent his country at an Olympic gathering.

Respect due…

Natasha

Has anyone ever noticed the date listed at the top of this post?

Paula Rose

Now really are you lot having a laugh at my expense?

I love coelacanths and wombats – as a naturalist I would.

Now please have some decorum, or else.

Paula Rose

Natasha honey – some of us are getting on.

Ian Brotherhood

The Saw Doctors, ‘N17’ –

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

AuldA et tout les autres, je vous aimez lots and lots mais le thread ne respondez pas – apologies if la disruption donnez la concept ça moi est disregardez votre amour, c’est not thé case.

oops ma franglais c’est tres mal.

Alex Clark

@Auld A

By the way, speaking of mitochondria and quantum mechanics, what’s the wave function associated with the reduction of the superoxide ion by the manganese superoxide dismutase?

42

Paula Rose

and the point (of) natural reasonableness rides to my rescue – swoon.

Jim Thomson

For any of you musically talented peeps on here, Limmy’s experimenting on-line with some music s/w and is looking for composition ideas.

link to ustream.tv

Ian Brotherhood

The Chieftains & Friends, ‘Give The Fiddler A Dram’ –

link to youtube.com

Alex Clark

Here’s an explanation of the answer.

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose
Paula Rose

You can live in a country called Scotland.

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

The Dubliners, ‘The Octopuss Jig’ –

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

about a country I cherish…

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

And people wonder about me! Enjoy a wonder…

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

@Paula Rose –

Cheers for the standing stones stuff.

This is probably closely related, eh?

The Dubliners, ‘Maids When You’re Young Never Wed An Old Man’ –

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

Just a wee introduction to the wonders of the neolithic – a time that fascinates me, I design the spectacle AuldA – the sets and costumes.

Paula Rose

Ian – you delectable boy, are we going to have a hug on the 22nd? xx

chipmonkey

Drat. I know I’ve had technophobitis for a few weeks, but now my posts don’t seem to be recognised any more.Oh Well. I was just wondering if anyone is going to make it to Perth -maybe even with a wings banner -for the gathering to mark Alex Salmond’s time as FM. Proposed for 4pm …at the end of the conference. Is it widely known about? Hope to bump in to some of you there. xx

Paula Rose

Natasha cherub – 22nd I’ll be there xx

Ian Brotherhood

@Paula Rose –

Well, I don’t know about any hugging on the 22nd, but I do know, after having just watched both parts of the video you linked to, that I will not die happy until I’ve seen ‘Maeshowe’.

Ian Brotherhood

The Pogues & The Dubliners, ‘The Irish Rover’ (live) –

link to youtube.com

Natasha

@chipmonkey 11.25pm

Do you know, I had exactly the same idea, that it would be great if people just turned up outside the venue to show their appreciation. Unfortunately I can’t! I’ll try and send my husband, though. That would be a wonderful sight, and I bet it would be packed.

AuldA

@Ian:
(Ming Campbell). He did the triple jump on a stretcher carried by nurses? 😉

@Paula Rose:
(franglais) adorable text, but I’m afraid I didn’t got the gist of it! 🙂
(Spectacle) so you design Neolithic spectacles? The costumes must be quite basic! The dialogs, too. 😛

Alex Clark:
(42): still hitchhiking for Betelgeuse?

Willie John

David Stewart MSP is having a go in the local rag about the SNP voting with the torys against the living wage for public sector contracts (www.hebrides-news.com/snp-idle-on-living-wage-131114.html). I’m pretty sure I read on Wings that it was EU regulations that would not allow this but cannot find the thread again. Can anyone help, or am I barking up the wrong tree? I would also like to put up the link to the debates in the Commons showing the number of MPs attending for the living wage debate and the one showing how many attended for their own pay rise.

Nana Smith

@Willie John

Link for the living wage debate and if you click on google images you can see the images.

link to parliament.uk

There’s links on google for eu regulations. I don’t believe Alex voted with the torie,will try and find out.

Nana Smith

@Willie John
Check out this thread…

link to wingsoverscotland.com

Willie John

@Nana Smith at 11@02 & 11:04

Thanks. I had managed to find those but the two pictures I remembered were of the Hoc debating the living wage with about a dozen mp’s there and then debating their own pay rise with standing room only!

Nana Smith

@Willie John

I think the pics are on the Wings thread I put up.

Are you in Lewis? I still can’t believe the result from there. My relations all voted YES and they say all their families and friends did as well.

Nana Smith

@Willie John

Both pics are on google images. Type in mps debate pay rise and mps debate living wage.

Geez what a contrast, only out for themselves as usual.

Willie John

@Nana Smith at 11:32

Thanks, Found them now at link to itv.com and at link to mirror.co.uk. I was sure they were together on on here and I would have loved to have annoyed him by rubbing his nose on the Wings site and maybe got a few more readers too.

I’m in Uists. I think we were pretty strong yes down here but Stornoway is strong labour. I suppose a cospiracy theorist would have had a field day; high voter registration, low turnout, No vote where we have a SNP MSP and a SNP MP.

Paula Rose

This is for Morag – but the rest of you may well enjoy this, from (in my opinion) one of England’s best movies.

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

I hope this works – if not – I love Jock Scot and Ninja Janet

youtube.com/watch?v=KSryFqjOqqc&feature=youtu.be

Paula Rose

I hope this works – if not – I love Jock Scot and Ninja Janet

youtube.com/watch?v=KSryFqjOqqc&feature=youtu.be

AuldA

Not much activity here today, everybody was enrapt by the conference it seems!

pete the camera

No I think Paula broke the internet with a duff link last night 😉

Brian Doonthetoon

Alecsammin’s speech from yesterday is now on YouTube.

link to youtube.com

AuldA

@Pete:

That would be a disaster. This thread needs Paula as much as the SNP needs Nicola!

Ian Brotherhood

This popped into my heid when I was wandering about in Ayr today. No idea why, but just watched the video for the very first time. A splendid tune.

Amii Stewart, ‘Knock On Wood’ –

link to youtube.com

Natasha

Ian Brotherhood
Do you often just wander about in Ayr, or did you have a reason for being there? 🙂

Paula Rose

Eek alors – naughty moi, je took too much of the rouge last night – sorry.

Ian Brotherhood

@Natasha,

I did have a reason. To collect a book from Waterstones. That didn’t take very long, so there was plenty of time to wander around, have a rummage in the charity shops and watch the people.

It’s funny to see the same places that were heaving with Yes supporters in the sunshine just a couple of months ago, now back to what they were before. It’s as if it was all just a dream.

Ian Brotherhood

I remember seeing a copy of the NME or Sounds, and it had a big close-up of Leo Sayer in his clown gear, and the question, ‘Is This The New David Bowie?’.

It’s hard to believe now, but Sayer was a bit of a sensation when he first appeared. Here he is doing ‘The Show Must Go On’ –

link to youtube.com

Croompenstein

This one often crosses my mind when wandering around Ayr

link to youtube.com

AuldA

@Paula:

Ben merde ! Moi qui pensais que tu étais une teetotaler! 😛

Croompenstein

@Ian – I’ll never forget one night in the Oriental there was a karaoke on and this guy got up to sing, he was a real hard looking case a big scar on his cheek real no nonsense type, well we were all wondering wtf this guy is gonnae sing and believe me none of us picked this…. btw it was f*ckin brilliant

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

This is just superb. When it was in the charts I was just 11, and remember watching it with my cousins – we were all terrified of the dude with the weird eyes.

Sparks, just a few years ago, doing ‘This Town Ain’t Big Enough’ (live) –

link to youtube.com

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Ian B.

Coincidences are strange things, at times. I have numerous playlists on my Mac for when I want a couple of hours of music to snooze/rest my eyes by.

I have just surfaced from tonight’s snooze, which was accompanied by various 80s tracks. This is the last track that was playing as I decided to get up and have a wee dram, 10 minutes ago.

link to youtube.com

Oneironaut

@Ian Brotherhood
“It’s funny to see the same places that were heaving with Yes supporters in the sunshine just a couple of months ago, now back to what they were before. It’s as if it was all just a dream.”

That’s exactly how I feel sometimes.
Half of the population seem to have forgotten it as if it never happened, no-one but us still talks about it.

Like a shared memory we all cling to and wonder if it was just a lingering fragment of a summer daydream…

Feeling quite poetic this evening.

Never forget…
link to youtube.com

Brian Doonthetoon

Typing of Sparks – this is probably my favourite Sparks track.

It always plays in my mind whenever there’s a major ecological or weather related incident.

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

@Croompenstein, Briandoonthetoon, Oneironaut –

Great stuff. We’re heading down a rabbit-hole here. Ain’t it fun?

Roxy Music, ‘Virginia Plain’ –

link to youtube.com

pete the camera

link to youtube.com

this could sum up the feeling of the 19th September result for most I think

Croompenstein

@Ian – I’ll raise a few for Alex…

link to youtube.com

Natasha

All I can say is, thank God I was a small child during the early 1970s with extremely limited access to television!

Alex Clark

@Natasha

Believe me when I say I’m just winding you up 🙂

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

This is for Natasha –

Elton John, in Edinburgh, in 1976 –

link to youtube.com

pete the camera

Alex S really did move Scotland’s world one step on

link to youtube.com

worth listening to the lyrics

Ian Brotherhood

Time to get funky.

Graham Central Station, ‘Release Yourself’ –

link to youtube.com

Croompenstein

@Natasha – doesnae get much better than this……

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

James Brown, doing ‘Gonna Have A Funky Good Time’, in Zaire, 1974, before the Ali/Foreman fight.

Contains mild nudity.

link to youtube.com

pete the camera

one to play to Jim Murphy if he is on his Iru Bru box near you

link to youtube.com

then again you could always learn the words and chant it to him yourself

Paula Rose

Silly boys

link to youtube.com

Natasha

Yes, I understand I’m here to be patted on the head. With three older brothers I’m used to it. 🙂

cearc

Thanks Ian and Brian for reminding me of Sparks, I hadn’t listened to them for ages.

PaulaRose, a doppelganger for your younger self?

cearc

Natasha,

It’s not just your heid that these guys will be wanting to pat!

TJenny

Ian – tried posting a comment and link to a photo of Nicola’s fabby tartan stillettoes with wee tartan rosettes on the sides, especially for oor Paula Rose, but it all disappeared into the ther. Link prob wouldn’t have worked though as it was from Twitter + I don’t seem able to post them right. 🙁

But if someone could post a pic of the shoes, thanx in advance. 😉

Anyway, will we be seeing you next Sat at the Hydro public bar prior to jolling in the YesBar?

Wonder whether the YESBar staff are aware that they could have hundreds of indy folk, inc Wingers, from the Hydro, descend on their premises? (With or without sexy shoes)

crazycat

@ T Jenny

I wondered if anyone had told them we were likely to descend on them next weekend, too. If I had been in Glasgow I might have called in to find out (and check out the décor at the Horseshoe), but I wasn’t. Hope to see you then, regardless.

Ian Brotherhood

@Natasha –

No heid-patting here in O/T!

It’s all ‘educational material’.

Hopefully, you were young enough to miss this. I wasn’t.

Bay City Rollers, ‘Saturday Night’ –

link to youtube.com

Brian Doonthetoon

“Saturday Night”…

This was the BCR’s 4th single, after “Keep On Dancing”, “We Can Make Music” and “Manana”. The original singer, Nobby Clark, was the vocalist on the original single.

However, here’s what Wikipedia says…

The original version of the song was recorded and released in the UK in 1973, but did not hit the charts. The original version was sung by Nobby Clark. At the end of 1975, Saturday Night was released In America and it hit the no. 1 spot in January 1976. It was the first Billboard #1 of the US Bicentennial year. The song had been re-recorded for the Rollers’ 1974 UK album Rollin’ with lead vocals by Les McKeown, Nobby’s replacement.

Nobby Clark had either left the band, or was kicked out, after the failure of the “Saturday Night” single in the UK. He did sign for Epic Records and released at least one single.

link to s.pixogs.com

Bob Sinclair

Somehow, with over 10000 people going to the Hydro I think there might just be a queue at the Yes Bar.

AuldA

Time to exert your brain, nerds! 😛

‘The wee train of memory’. French ORTF ‘interlude’ clip, ’60s.

Each wagon carries a part of a larger drawing. You must memorize all parts and find out what the original drawing is.

This particular clip (quite easy) features one of the finest alpine landscape in France (col du Lautaret, liminal on the border Savoy/Isère).

Good luck!

link to ina.fr

Jim Thomson

@TJenny 12:14 am

comment image:large

You’re welcome …:-P

TJenny

Jim Thomson – Yaay – thanx oodles, and I hope Paula Rose sees them too. 😉

Jim Thomson

and the …:-P should have been 😛 [oops]

Paula Rose

I’ll let you in on a little secret – that’s the pair I was wearing when Nicola visited Brechin!

Jim Thomson

They cleaned up well then 😛

Jim Thomson

I posted this link across on the main thread, but it’s been by-passed with far more interesting stuff 🙁

Notice how there are separate manifestos for the three “main” parties for “UK”, Wales and Scotland.

I think that it should be highlighted to the English regions that they aren’t special enough to merit their own tailored manifestos.

link to politicsresources.net

Jim Thomson

Some light relief for those keyboard warriors amongst us.

link to youtube.com

Jim Thomson

Odd instruments and classical music also spawned this

link to youtube.com

Jim Thomson

Bonzo Dog Dooh Dah Band – Urban Spaceman – using a funnel and a length of tubing.

link to youtube.com

Cactus

On the subject of footwear.. does anybuddy know of any western shops in Scotland that sells new cowboy boots? (need to try on for size / feel and willing to travel).

I’ve used the shop at High Street in ayeGlasgow before, but the owner went a bit weird, so no go there no more! I’ve had a good search on line to no avail.. help & thanks B-)

Looking forward to Saturday night.

p.s. Groovy shoes Nicola.

Jim Thomson

@Cactus – how about this lot?

link to yelp.co.uk

Natasha

@Cactus 7.20pm

“Went a bit weird? 🙂

Btw, my wee angry Glaswegian husband says he has exclusive ‘patting’ rights!

Oneironaut

@Natasha
“Btw, my wee angry Glaswegian husband says he has exclusive ‘patting’ rights!”

Aww, not even one little pat?

I’m even happy to pay royalty fees for a temporary ‘patting licence’ if necessary 😉 hehe

Natasha

This is starting to get out of hand (boom, boom).

Ian Brotherhood

Tony Orlando & Dawn, ‘Knock Three Times’ –

link to youtube.com

Oneironaut

One for all the folks who still like to dream… 🙂

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

This song CANNOT be 23 years old.

Nirvana, ‘Smells Like Teen Spirit’ –

link to youtube.com

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Jim T.

Typewriter – Brandenburger Symphoniker

That’s on my randomised ‘light instrumental easy listening’ playlist on my iMac at work, for my accompanying my lunchtime snooze – but I’d never seen it played live!

Glass harp-Toccata and fugue in D minor-Bach-BWV 565

Amazin’!

.
Hi Ian B.

I prefer this version…

link to youtube.com

8=)

Cactus

@Jim Thomson ~ Not tried there yet, will drop by and see what they got.

@Natasha ~ Yeah, the shop doesn’t seem to stock any boots over Size 10.. I asked three times for a larger size of a pair I wanted but the owner never bothered to order them in, terrible customer service.

Calling Edinburgh, Perth, Dundee, Aberdeen, Inverness to John o’ Groats.. if you know of any western shops out your way, gimme a holler, muchos thankos.

I need a new pair of boots like Scotland needs independence!

Bugger (the Panda)

For those of you who are interested in the nuts and bolts as well as astounding enormity of the EU wide tax evasion network based in Luxembourg and the Netherlands, until today quietly working in the shadows of Switzerland, may like to follow this ling and rummage about.

Juncker, the current EU President was very much involved in the structuring of the Luxembourg end, when he was the Prime Minister of Luxembourg.

I wonder if that makes the EU-USA treaty of opening the service industry up to each other, any more likely.

Bugger (the Panda)

ooooooooopppppppppsssssss

link to us4.campaign-archive1.com

Stoker

Looking for a bit of guidance and advice.

Trying to purchase a Tablet as a gift for someone but i’m clueless when it comes to technology.

I have managed to whittle it down to these 2:

link to tesco.com

OR

link to amazon.co.uk

The person it is intended for will probably MAINLY use it for
watching movies, facebook, emails, internet, playing games and
watching some catch-up tv/iPlayer etc.

Would also consider other recommended makes in same price range.

Any and all help very much appreciated.

AuldA

@Stoker:

Sorry, I only own one iPad. I cannot advise you on Android ones.

Other O/T. Don’t watch the screen. Close your eyes, imagine you’re at the top of the Ben Nevis, or on the shore of one of the outer Hebrides, or any place else you love, and listen: link to youtube.com

Nod Bruce

@Stoker:

Of the 2 tablets you linked to, the Tesco has a faster processor, twice as much RAM and is well-reviewed.

The Lenovo, IMHO, has the name “Lenovo”, bends cutely and might feel slightly better-built – I don’t know, I’ve never fondled one!

They seem to have virtually identical cameras, Bluetooth, etc., the Tesco may have more sensors (ambient light, gyroscope).

I’d go for the (spit) Tesco one myself…

AuldA

My daughter got a 2015 YES calendar at school! I made a shot of the relevant part, if you want to print it!

comment image

Natasha

AuldA 7.39pm

If I tried to produce anything like that at my school, I’d be sacked!

AuldA

@Natasha:

That’s why we made it for you! 🙂
Have a good night!

Stoker

Thank you anyway for the thought, AuldA.
_________

Thanks for that, Bruce, but i’m still none the wiser.
The third one i was considering was the Kindle Fire HD 7,
but i eliminated that one due to the smaller screen size
and the single band Wi-Fi. It also has one or two negative
points in the reviews.
link to amazon.co.uk

Nevertheless, thanks again, your recommendation has been noted.

btw, Why the (spit) Tesco’s – just a personal dislike for Tesco?

Nod Bruce

@Stoker:

” – just a personal dislike for Tesco?”

Yes – I live too near one! It leaves a strange taste in my mouth recommending any of their products…

Ian Brotherhood

The Miracles, ‘I’m Just A Love Machine’ –

link to youtube.com

Alex Clark

I saw this guy live at Newmarket Racecourse in 2011. He was 77 years old and still a brilliant singer, had everybody singing and dancing.

You may not want to watch all of this as it’s 12 minutes long, but just found it and this is him at 80 years old.

link to youtube.com

Michael McCabe

@Aulda 5:41pm cheers that music was nice and relaxing. Ian Brotherhood that song takes me back. You could fly away with those shirt collars. Cheers.

Natasha

@Alex Clark 11.34pm

I’ve never been that impressed in the past by the way the USA make such a fuss about the 4th of July, but actually it was just really nice to see all those people waving flags, enjoying themselves and celebrating their country’s independence; imagine what it’ll be like when we finally get there!

Betty Boop

@ Natasha, 11:58pm, 17/11/14

I hope to wave and fly flags in celebration of independence some day and, although I generally can’t be bothered with them, enjoy fireworks too.

We have spent several 4th July in the US and the best was in Henderson, Nevada where we went to the celebration in the local park. It was also the 50th anniversary of the city so the Mayor had gone all out on the fireworks. It was a great, friendly atmosphere with everyone celebrating in common cause. That is something to be cherished, even for a few hours, community.

Jim Thomson

just playing with html tags so this might not look too pretty.

Ignore content.

just trying to see if I can use the “blockquote” tag to good effect

Jim Thomson

woohoo – it works 🙂

What other unlisted tags can be used? I haven’t been able to get underline to work or strikethrough.

Nod Bruce

Strikethrough Should work – use (strike), not HTML5s (del).

All tags compatible with HTML 1.0 Transitional should work if the script allows them, but unless you control the CSS there’s no knowing what’ll happen.

HTTP Tags list

Betty Boop

The BBC are looking for members for the Audience Council Scotland.

link to bbc.co.uk

0845 300 44 33

Calls cost up to 5p a minute for most landlines, blah, blah…

Quote from BBC page: “Our role is to ensure that the voice of Scottish audiences is heard at the heart of decision-making at the BBC.

We provide independent advice to the BBC Trust, the BBC’s governing body, on how well the BBC is performing for audiences in Scotland, taking into account all of the BBC’s services. We also identify, and advise the Trust on issues of priority for Scottish audiences.”

Go on folks, get right in there! No guarantee you will make any difference though…

Jim Thomson

Thanks @Nod Bruce.

I’ve been playing with a few tags over the months but not had much success until now.

The strikethrough one might be useful at some point 😉

Jim Thomson

@Betty Boop re the BBC ACS thing

Page 3 of this document on their website is interesting.

link to downloads.bbc.co.uk

I have no idea of its origin, but if you applied the criteria to politicians from local to European level, you’d be hard pressed to find many that would comply.

The application form (for people who are NOT politically active) is here

link to downloads.bbc.co.uk

Stoker

Bruce,
After doing a bit more research and reading through the reviews
i have decided to go with your recommendation, thanks.
😉
____________

Betty Boop @ 1.10pm

I’ve a funny feeling the most important part of that info you
have shared in your post is what its not revealing.

Is that a sign that broadcasting will not be devolved and the
powers-that-be have instructed the BBC to come up with a plan
to make it look as if they are taking steps to appear to be
making themselves more accountable?

The fake apologies will most likely follow very soon.

This is most definitely their pathetic reaction to the avalanche
of complaints that the BBC in Scotland has experienced due to
their criminal and biased reporting on all matters regarding the
Scottish referendum and Scottish independence.

Scotland’s people must not be fooled and buy into this cr@p.
We must continue to keep up the campaign of non payment of the
licence fee, and continue to encourage others to do likewise.
We must also continue to bombard them with complaints every
time it is appropriate and justifiable to do so.

This “Audience Council Scotland” is a BBC farce and con –
You don’t need any sort of “Council” to report facts accurately.
WOS does it every day of the week.

btw, BB, thanks for sharing that, i was unaware of it.

link to facebook.com

CameronB Brodie

Here’s one inspired by oor Mags Curran, from back in the day when ‘socialism’ was all the rage. An eara when Tory and Labour joined in forming a National Government, and any toff worth a listing in Burke’s Peerage, was rushing headlong to join the Fabian Society. This was when the Labour party was corrupted to become stooge in the Establishment tag-team, IMO.

James Dapogny’s Chicago Jazz Band – Caught
link to youtube.com

CameronB Brodie

@ British Labour
“Are you holding me up, or just holding me back?”

The Blue Bloods – The Ties That Bind
link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

ooh lookee – one of our favourite wingers takes the lead…

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

This one has a Rev and others –

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

Love a history lesson – always good to know stuff…

link to youtube.com

Nod Bruce

Thanks, @Paula Rose, plugs always welcome!

Here’s a song by a good team, a post-referendum refrain for Wingers everywhere, dressed in a nice pretty anchor tag, just for you, honey, from the smartass technical dude at the Choob:

…Told you so

Brian Doonthetoon

Right peeps.

Here are the names of yooz who want personalised badges for Wings Over Glasgow get-together on Saturday.

Alex Clark

Betty Boop

Bob Sinclair

Brian Doonthetoon

Cactus

Dixie

Hanii Puppy (my son)

Jim Thomson

Kininvie

Livestream – Kevin + Del Boy

Natasha

Oneironaut

Paula Rose

Pete the Camera

Ronnie Anderson

If anyone else wants a badge, post the name you want in this topic, before 11.59pm tomorrow evening.

Paula Rose

Swoon big time BdoonT xx – can I have one for my pussy? She’s called Minxie?

TJenny

Brian Doonthetoon – can TJenny have a wee badge too, please. 😉

See you all on Saturday – oooooooh, excited, Nicola and Wingers. 😉

crazycat

Could I have a badge too, please, Brian?

crazycat with a lower case c would be wonderful – and definitely all one word. Thanks.

See you all on Saturday.

AuldA

@Brian:

I thought our regular Panda would be drafted, too 😛

That said, can you please not add me? Instead, if someone of the Wingers’ gang takes some pictures, I don’t say I am not interested in seeing them!

On those very negative thoughts…
Don’t have a dull day!

Nod Bruce

Oops! Here’s a working version of that link from 18th @ 23:09:

link to youtube.com

Jim Thomson

@Brian Doonthetoon – thanks for ordering the list of names in a way that puts me in the middle. I normally end up last(ish) 😉

desimond

Anyone needing a ticket for The Hydro Queen Nicola Show on Saturday let me know, got one spare.

paul {@} kpacontracts {.co) (.uk)

castle hills chavie

oooh Brian could I get a badge as well.

If ye cannie fit it all in Ch Chavie will do.

Has it been decided yet whether it will be the Horseshoe or the Yesbar???

Looking forward to catching up with folks.

Taranaich

My latest post, sort of a response to Derek Bateman’s “indyref2” post, but also generally about referendum conspiracies (Morag will either like or hate this post):

link to wildernessofpeace.wordpress.com

Taranaich

Also, Brian, what time would the meetup be? I’m going to see Nicola at the Hydro, so I’ll be in the vicinity, but I’ll have the family with me, so I’ll have to check with them. I’ve always wanted to meet more of you fine folks in the flesh!

Paula Rose

Taranaich honey! – great piece of writing, already shared and we meet on Saturday! Brian DTT – get the badge made!

AuldA

@Paula Rose:

Brian is your local badger? I thought we already discussed weasel et al. some days ago! 😛

Paula Rose

Someone died on Monday – now I’m brokenhearted…

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

And for those of you who ken your history – how about this for allegory?

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

@ AuldA – sweet Brian is one of my many local heroes! (how does one do the happy smiley emote thingie)

Paula Rose

Morag and Ian Brotherhood are two others, I will be making sure that they ken that on Saturday xx

Ian Brotherhood

@Taranaich –

Another great post there mister. You have a knack (like Stu) of being able to pull together a lot of seemingly disparate events/issues – most of us are aware of them, but can’t summon awareness of them all simultaneously.

I don’t believe Whitehall/WM will ever allow the legalisation of an electoral system which is NOT riggable – a century hence we’ll still be fannying about with bits of paper and blunt pencils in doorless lavvies, not even allowed the dignity of signing our own names.

Paula Rose

A century hence our descendants will be living in a country regarded by some as furrin.

Ian Brotherhood

@Paula Rose –

Furrin…indeed.

link to alice-dsl.net

cearc

Paula Rose,

Never mind in a century. Right now nine out of ten of my descendants are living in ‘furrin’ countries!

Maybe in a century families will all be able to stay here.

Brian Doonthetoon

Righty-o.

The deadline has passed and here’s the list of names for badges I have…

Alex Clark

Betty Boop

Bob Sinclair

Brian Doonthetoon

Cactus

castle hills chavie (Ch Chavie)

crazycat

Dixie

Hanii Puppy (my son)

Jim Thomson

Kininvie

Livestream – Kevin + Del Boy

Minxie

Natasha

Oneironaut

Paula Rose

Pete the Camera

Ronnie Anderson

Taranaich

TJenny

Does anyone know if Chipmonkey and Quentin Quayle are coming on Saturday?
Also, Paula, I DON’T believe you are taking your pussy to Glasgow! What if there’s a furball scenario on the A9? Would your pussy not prefer to stay at home, chasin’ spyugs, and gain a “Minxie” fridge magnet?
(New product line – top secret.)

Lastly, I can extend the deadline for names to 5pm tomorrow afternoon but, as soon as I’m in from work, I’ll be doing the artwork for the badges to get them made on Friday so 5pm is the deadline.

chipmonkey

Hi Brian and everyone. I did post before,but there are lots of posts on here. I’m sorry to say it still doesn’t look like QQ and I can make it. I’m very jealous, especially when I see that list of names! We’d have got ourselves to Dundee for the bus if Dundee folks had been listening… I’m more than a bit below par (see time I’m posting) so maybe we wouldn’t anyway. Maybe the Eastern contingent could have a wee meet up for a bite to eat and a good blether sometime. Grumpy not to be coming.

Brian Doonthetoon

Forgot to mention…

The scores of Wingers who were involved in the Invergowrie skinny-dipping – make sure you’re wearing your “Wings Over Invergowrie” badge on Saturday. They’re like gold dust and much sought after but, if you weren’t there, and remember it through the past darkly, you’ve missed out on that one.

Brian Doonthetoon

And apropos of my previous post…

link to youtube.com

Michael McCabe

I can’t make it through on Saturday.but I hope you all have a great day. Hopefully I will meet a lot of you if there is another wings meeting in Edinburgh. All the best. Aye till I die.

X_Sticks

Thanks Taranaich and a’ the rest o’ ye’s. Stuck ower here in the US o’ A and missin’ hame. Gutted I won’t see ye’s a’ on Saturday, but won’t get back to Aberdeen ’til well late on Saturday nicht. Hae ane fur me whilst ye’s are oot partyin’. Buggers 😀

Tam Jardine

TJenny

What’s the plan for Saturday? Am working so will miss the hydro and RIC but could mibbe nip through after work. This is what happens when you don’t keep tabs on off topic.

TJenny

Tam – we’re all heading to the YESBar in Drury Street after the Hydro, so head for there. If it’s too packed and we move on somewhere else, I’ll get someone to post an update on here. Hope to see you on Saturday. 😉

bob sinclair

Briandoonthetoon

Great seeing my name in such esteemed company (I think)

TJenny

Briandoontehtoon – thanks in advance for my badge. I foretell lots of drinks for you from grateful ‘badgers’ on Saturday. 😉

Jim Thomson

I thought the plan was to meet in the Hydro bar immediately after the event and then wander off to the YesBar (or alternative)

TJenny

Jim Thomson – Yes, that’s the plan, but Tam Jardine said he isn’t able to attend the Hydro and may only make it through after work @ 7ish, hence advice to head to the YESBar venue.

Jim Thomson

Thanks TJ. I think I get it now. At least I’ll have Betty Boop to keep me right (as ever) 🙂

desimond

Brian- A Desimond badge would be lovely.

What bar in the Hydro?

I know theres the Clyde Built Bar in the SECC thats a public bar but I have never seen a bar in the Hydro thats wanting punters inside it after a gig.

Can someoneconfirmplease.

Still a spare ticket for The Hydro tohear Nicolas “I hae a Dream” speech if anyone has a need for it

just mail me at

paul(@) kpacontracts [.co.uk]

TJenny

desimond – Cactus suggested meeting in the Hydro public bar after Nicola’s gig. I took it to be the Clydebuilt Bar, but would need Cactus to confirm, as I’ve never been to the Hydro.

Tam Jardine

TJenny

Great, thanks. Hopefully catch up in Yesbar. It’s been too long.

Guid luck herding Wingers between venues. I recall losing someone between 2 pubs at Wings Edinburgh – and the boozers couldn’t have been more than 15 yards apart! My memory is quite hazy on detail.

Anyway – I’ll try and be there for about 7

Alex Clark

“Anarchy in the UK” like never heard before. Brilliant.

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

It would be even better if they showed the morris dancers re-interpreting the pogo in front of the stage!

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi peeps.

The original suggestion for Saturday’s get-together was for a 7pm kick-off at the YES Bar. The libations after The Hydro were a later addition.

Subsequently, Alex Clark pointed out that the YES Bar was a tad pricey, then, in the past couple of weeks, Ronnie Anderson raised the issue of its lack of many seats and that the Horseshoe could be a better idea.

I did suggest that we could move the meet to the Horseshoe Bar, across the road and, individually, as the mood takes, have a pint in the YES Bar during the evening, just to be able to say we’d visited it but nobody really commented on that suggestion.

So I guess the plan is still to meet up at the YES Bar at 7 and take it from there. This wee Dundee contingent (Pete d’Baj, my son and I) are planning on hitting the Counting House around 6 for nosebags, then heading to Drury Street.

.
Desimond – I’ve added you to the list.

.
TJenny – I do the design and printing of the artwork; Pete d’Baj does the actual manufacturing and he drinks Coke!

Now I’m off to get these Wings Over Glasgow badges together for Pete to produce tomorrow.

PS: if Drury Street isn’t up to standard, we could always take over the Counting House, like last time…

Jim Thomson

@Brian – there is a small issue of the Horseshoe having quite a few UJs in the windaes. (Google street view images dated Sept 2014)

Paula Rose

The UJs are there to keep glaswegians out so’s we can have the place to ourselves. Did you notice the hairy string in the bottom left windae?

Alistair Grapevine

Brian Doonthetoon says,
Hi Brian, can i please have a badge too,

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Jim T.

I had a look on Streetview as well. I THINK those could be advertising plaques, possibly produced by a brewery.

Hud on…

Mmmmmm…. I took a screenshot of the UJ and surround and stuck it into Google’s image search – nothing similar showed up. But, having the file on my Mac, I was able to blow it up a bit and the lettering over the top APPEARS to say “The UKOK” and the lettering underneath, seems to end in “…independence” but I can”t make out what comes before.

Onny ehdeahz?

Brian Doonthetoon

“Alistair Grapevine” – you’ve JUST made the cut…

AuldA

I’d be damned if there is no winger from Glasgow that can have a gander of what exactly those UJs stand for.

Oneironaut

The mood I’m in right now, the temptation to put a brick through the union flag windows would be too overwhelming to resist.

Think I’ll stick to the Yes bar myself 😉

Paula Rose

Adverts for this scurrilous site darlings – link to facebook.com – are in the windaes of The Horseshoe.

Paula Rose

Oneironautty – have we key honey?

Paula Rose

cearc honey – you might want to come after all, The(luscious)pnr has arranged private use of an heated pool for wingers at an hotel! Must be due to the success of your last endeavour! I won’t tell the rest of the wingers, but just pass the word around on Saturday.

alistair Grapevine

thanks Brian, don’t lurk about off topic often, however Kininvie gave me a nudge this way.

Oneironaut

@Paula Rose
“Oneironautty – have we key honey?”

I’ve got a few keys. Any one in particular? 🙂

Paula Rose

Darlings – have I got the schedule right –

6pm chips art the counting house

7pm meet at the clyde to welcome the Rev off the banana boat

8pm cocktails at the Yes bar

9pm pints at the Horseshoe

10pm check the Yes Bar for stragglers

11pm hug Ronnie and put him in a taxi

12pm skinnydip in plush Glasqow hotel?

Paula Rose

Oh – and this…

link to youtube.com

Oneironaut

@Paula Rose
“7pm meet at the clyde to welcome the Rev off the banana boat”

ooo, is Rev Stu coming along too? 🙂

“12pm skinnydip in plush Glasqow hotel?”

Tempting, but I have to get the last train back home before then.
Also I have the kind of body that should always remain clothed in public places to avoid causing severe mental trauma to innocent bystanders! 😉

Ian Brotherhood

To all youse heading for Glasgow on Saturday – safe trip, and don’t worry about UJs in the Horsehsoe windaes – FFS, after half an hour you won’t give a toss.

Here’s a wee tune for all who are definitely ‘Goin’ West’, and those of us who wish we could join ye’s. –

Go West, ‘The King Of Wishful Thinking’ (live)

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

Apologies for my unfortunate typo above, where I very nearly called the Horseshoe the ‘Whore’s Ho’ – it’s not that type of pub, honest.

And Paula Rose, please disregard Oneironaut’s modest description of his physical attributes – I have been on many a campaign with the man, and rest assured he is as fine an example of rippling Ayrshire beefcake as you’re ever likely to encounter.

Oneironaut

@Ian Brotherhood
“And Paula Rose, please disregard Oneironaut’s modest description of his physical attributes – I have been on many a campaign with the man, and rest assured he is as fine an example of rippling Ayrshire beefcake as you’re ever likely to encounter.”

Ayrshire beefcake that’s gone several decades past its ‘Best Before’ date! 😉

Paula Rose

Ian absoluteheavenliness – you will be there won’t you? Otherwise I’m not going (stamp foot petulantly) sorry Thepnr I love you too, I’ll be there.

Brian Doonthetoon

Paula – That Facebook page. You’re such a TEASE! Think you can tease? Wait till you see the badgeS we’ve got for you on Saturday!

Why don’t we meet up in the YES Bar, then invade The Horseshoe after a refreshment, just to make a point?

Onnyoo, that’s my break from badge designing over so back t’mill.

Paula Rose

Oh what am I to do? Snicker – does nae matter, Thepnr is in control.

Oneironaut

Well, I’m calling it a night here for now.

I’ll just leave this here. Bit of an upbeat sound for what will hopefully be a fun weekend ahead 🙂

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

@Oneironaut/Paula Rose –

That final train…getting the timing right…wondering whether or not to chance hanging on for just one more…

Heaven 17, ‘Temptation’ (live) –

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

ABC, ‘Look Of Love’ (live, 2005)-

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

Never mind missing heaven etc my wee sweet Ian –

link to youtube.com

I need reassurance that I will see you on saturday – thepnr has promised to behave.

Paula Rose

I love that voice my sweet Ian – so like your dulcet tones, swoon.

cearc

Paula Rose,

I wish I were coming down.

Last night I thought that maybe I could drive thursday but then this morning I realised that it was thursday (I seemed to be a day behind for some reason).

Very sad to miss it.

Are you heading this way anytime soon?

cearc

Mind you,if thepnr has promised to behave it might be a bit dull.

desimond

Brian…many thanks

John King…you have mail regards Hydro ticket.

Ian Brotherhood

@Paula Rose –

Lou Rawls?

A magnificent voice from what appears to be a rather small frame. He would slot right into the SSP nae borra.

Unfortunately, the chances of me making Saturday night are somewhat less than those of Miliwotsit (NB I’m stealing your patter) becoming PM next year.

If I do make it? I’ll have to be heavily disguised. My grandfather-in-law bequeathed his de-mob suit, which I have just retrieved from the attic – with some slight alterations, and a touch of slap to the fizzog, I could maybe pass as Kezia Dug for a few hours, and get back to meself on the train home…it’s not likely, but I’ll do me best.

Cactus

Hey TJenny and all, took a look at The Hydros website (see below) this appears to be the bar they promote.. so The Clydebuilt Bar & Kitchen at the SECC it is. We can network.

link to thessehydro.com

I reckon we all rendezvous at Drury Street. I’m sure there will be many of us kicking about outside. It might even get to being as busy as Ashton Lane (West end of ayeGlasgow) on a Saturday evening.

For your on-street entertainment, Ronnie will be serving gourmet BBQ snacks from 9pm, whilst Paula dances barefoot on the cobblestones!

If any new/current readers want to come along and join us and are not sure who’s who? Just look out for all of those mysterious people wearing hats.. we’re a friendly kinda bunch from all walks of life who, like you, share a common desire 😉

Cactus

Hey TJenny and all, took a look at The Hydros website (see below) this appears to be the bar they promote.. so The Clydebuilt Bar & Kitchen at the SECC it is. We can network.

link to thessehydro.com

I reckon we all rendezvous at Drury Street. I’m sure there will be many of us kicking about outside. It might even get to being as busy as Ashton Lane (West end of ayeGlasgow) on a Saturday evening.

For your on-street entertainment, Ronnie will be serving gourmet BBQ snacks from 9pm, whilst Paula dances barefoot on the cobblestones!

If any new/current readers want to come along and join us and are not sure who’s who? Just look out for all of those mysterious people wearing hats.. we’re a friendly kinda bunch from all walks of life who, like you, share a common desire 😉

Cactus

Apols for me double post readers.. the guru was meditating.

john king

Briandoonthetoon
don’t leave me and Irene behind we want to go, (nae swally though 🙁 ) I’ll be driving back to Fife,
btw Desimond has come up trumps with a ticket for me but now I need one for Irene any offers?
she’ll get aufy cauld staundin ootside the Hydro for two hours. 🙁
If anyone can help me can you leave you spare ticket with Ronnie/wings banner bearers outside the venue?

john king

Cactus says
“If any new/current readers want to come along and join us and are not sure who’s who? Just look out for all of those mysterious people wearing hats.”

Just wait for me Mr Dillon!
(look it up) 🙂

Gillian_Ruglonian

Hello all, haven’t posted on o/t before.

I have a spare ticket for the ric conference and Nicola’s do in the hydro (I am now unfortunately having to attend alone!) so I can meet up with anyone who wants them on the day, and I was planning a visit to the yes bar later on so I hope to see you all there.

Brian, I would love a badge if I’m not too late to ask (or too cheeky!)

john king

Gillian your a life saver,
have you been to any wings events before?
if not don’t worry we’ll find you, just head for Ronnie complete with wings banner who will be near the entrance to the venue if you could leave the ticket with him that would be brilliant, you wont find it hard to get the wings crowd we’ll be the noisy ones 🙂
And dont worry about coming alone (you definitely will not be alone) 🙂

And if Brian doesn’t have a badge, I’ll have a rummage in the wife’s bag and see what she has. 🙂
Oh, what do I look like if you miss Ronnie?
I’ll look like a miniature Cactus (only better looking), complete with cowboy hat and a blue tee shirt (weather permitting) with a wings advert on the back. 🙂

Gillian_Ruglonian

Hello John, thanks for the kind words, and its a pleasure to be of help with the ticket. I’ve been to lots of things that have had a wings presence and spoke to some folk briefly but you know what its like in a crowd, its not the best place to start conversations, and I’ve often thought later I wonder who that was! (though your description sounds quite unmistakable).

As I am going to the RIC conference I’m not sure how I’m going to manage my time during the day, I was hoping to nip into the hydro at the last minute to save missing too much of the conference, so I could meet up with whoever’s about at lunchtime (about 1pm going by the workshop timetable) or in the morning (before 10am) unless you have any other ideas?

Oneironaut

@Cactus
“Just look out for all of those mysterious people wearing hats..”

Hmmm, I need to get myself a hat!

There aren’t many looks I can pull off, but “mysterious” is definitely one I can do! 😉

john king

Gillian says
” I was hoping to nip into the hydro at the last minute to save missing too much of the conference, so I could meet up with whoever’s about at lunchtime (about 1pm going by the workshop timetable) or in the morning (before 10am) unless you have any other ideas?”
Well in that case we’ll, ahem wing it, so if you meet someone whose going to be there before you and knows me or I’ll wait in the foyer for you, no matter, we’ll resolve it. 🙂

john king

The wife just looked on the SNP events page and spotted that you need your SNP membership card to get in,
I DID NOT KNOW THAT,

If that’s the case I’ll need to check if members (me) can take a guest in (wife) or the games a bogey! 🙁

Gillian_Ruglonian

John says
“Well in that case, we’ll ahem wing it” you bet me to it!

I think I’ve decided that my look for the day is “mysterious” under a hat too!!

john king

Stand down troops, drama over,
phoned SNP and was reassured that due to delay in sending out membership cards to new members they wont ask for proof of membership just your ticket, phew.

john king

Oneironaut says
Hmmm, I need to get myself a hat!

There aren’t many looks I can pull off, but “mysterious” is definitely one I can do! 😉

Well knowing you Oneironaut,
this should for the bill

link to img.costumecraze.com

desimond

And the winner of “Surreal Comment of the Week” goes to John King ( Reigning Champion for last 179 weeks)

‘I’ll look like a miniature Cactus (only better looking)’

john king

or fit the bill even . 🙂

john king

I can see where your going with that Desimond,
he he,
when you meet me and Cactus together you’ll get what I mean! 🙂

Oneironaut

@john king
I suppose I could just borrow the hat off that bloke on the horse outside the modern art gallery then 😀

Cactus

There could be a theme emerging for tomorrow night.. Hats at the Horseshoe. If you’ve got one, get it on.

I’m heading out, way out west end for the live music, have a cool Friday night Scotland.

X

john king

Wheres the horseshoe ?

Oneironaut

@john king
“Wheres the horseshoe ?”

On the horse! 😉

john king

Eh wheres the Horseshow pardner?
I meant.

Jim Thomson

@Brian Doonthetoon & @PeteTheCamera

Get yersels across to here and protect your heritage:

link to scotland.gov.uk

john king

Oneironaut says
“I suppose I could just borrow the hat off that bloke on the horse outside the modern art gallery then” 😀

What?
The Duke of Wellington?
that bloke?
Well I suppose,
if the traffic cone fits,
wear it. 🙂

Jim Thomson

@John King

Here

link to google.co.uk!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sN7fjZdPbytGsG-4uNXCSMQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x4888469e475fd18d:0x5159133ccaba1954

Jim Thomson

@John King

of course I could make it easier by using a shortened link 😉

link to bit.ly

You’re welcome 😛

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi John King (and Gillian).

You’re in luck – badges are sorted via Pete.

Also, If you look at this link, you can see the YES Bar on the left, with the Horseshoe Bar nearer, on the right.

The view is from the Renfield Street end of Drury Street, looking east.

link to goo.gl

.
Hi Jim T.

Dundee Cake story was featured on TV up here last week.

Of course, we don’t want Dundee Cake to be confused with this…

link to youtube.com

Taranaich

Hats sound like a grand idea. Now the question is, do I wear my big Texan 10-gallon, or my more modest riding hat… Then again, my beard & hair are probably distinctive enough! But I’ll still wear a hat, if I can find one.

@Ian Brotherhood: Another great post there mister. You have a knack (like Stu) of being able to pull together a lot of seemingly disparate events/issues – most of us are aware of them, but can’t summon awareness of them all simultaneously.

I don’t believe Whitehall/WM will ever allow the legalisation of an electoral system which is NOT riggable – a century hence we’ll still be fannying about with bits of paper and blunt pencils in doorless lavvies, not even allowed the dignity of signing our own names.

Thanks Ian, though I should say this particular post was in the making since about the 19th when the whole “it’s a fix” mania started to take hold – after all, I was present at the count, and even then there were rumblings. So it’s a few things percolating over.

Sometimes I let them percolate too long: I was working on a post about SNP & Labour voting trends, when lo and behold, the Rev beat me to it. My focus was more on Inverclyde voting, but still, argh!

Oneironaut

@john king
Ohhh, is that who he is?

History was never my strong point 🙂

Paula Rose

Dolls, honeys and beautiful lurkers – the wings crowd will be gathered beneath the hairy string – the laughter will be loudest where the wingers congregate.

Oneironaut

“And lo, the Duke of Wellies did don his red and white conical headgear and sit astride his horse, and he raised the hairy string on high.

And he said unto the courageous Wingers:
“Under this symbol shall ye gather and defend thine lands from Tory tyranny! So mote it be! Now I’m off for chips, see ya later!”

Truly, it was a tale that shall live on in legend…”

(Sorry, I’m busy trying to write a novel and the mindset seems to be creeping into my posts lately…) 🙂

Paula Rose

(message to Al Harron – please be there tomorrow night – you are a gem)

Paula Rose

@ Oneironaut – dearest, will this be your first encounter with cybernat central?

Oneironaut

@Paula Rose
Nope, think I’ve had a couple of encounters with Cybernat Central 🙂

Had the pleasure of meeting John King and Thepnr at the Counting House on two occasions.
And not forgetting crazycat too of course 🙂

crazycat

@ Oneironaut

See you tomorrow. I’m going to be at RIC all day so will make my way to the Yes Bar afterwards and see who’s there. Will also think about a hat.

Ian Brotherhood

The Cult, ‘She Sells Sanctuary’ –

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

Dance me –

link to youtube.com

Oneironaut

@crazycat
Looking forward to it 🙂

What sort of hats do physicists have? Ones with built-in lasers, for melting union jack windows? 😉

Paula Rose

Any excuse –

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

Friday Night Poser:

Do spiders hibernate, keep a low profile, or just die?

NAE WIKI-FIDDLIN’ ETC – DOES ANYONE HERE KNOW FOR REAL??

Ian Brotherhood

Another Friday Night Poser, but this one’s just for the ladies.

link to pixcdn.posterrevolution.com

Brian Doonthetoon

Spiders hang around, twiddling their legs, until the time comes for them to INSPIRE.

Then all hell breaks loose.

BTW: badge-making endeavours now completed so no more requests; we hate to disappoint.

Brian Doonthetoon

Last post for tonight.

Re: the

‘http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-time-is-right/

topic – and badges. We have rush released badges to mark the new UK election scenario and a limited number will be available for purchase tomorrow evening.

Brian Doonthetoon

A-A-A-ARGH! No edit facility so I can’t KILL that aberrant apostrophe that has destroyed the link.

So here it is clean…

link to wingsoverscotland.com

Taranaich

@Paula Rose: Taranaich honey! – great piece of writing, already shared and we meet on Saturday! Brian DTT – get the badge made!

Thanks Paula! I’ll definitely be there tomorrow. All I ask is you be gentle, I’m very shy and retiring in real life!

Gillian_Ruglonian

Hi everyone, I’m really looking forward to tomorrow’s activities, especially since the hat thing appears to have sprouted wings!!

Ian Brotherhood

Here’s an oddity –

David Bowie, ‘The Mask’ –

link to youtube.com

Alan Mackintosh

Three (at least) of Team InverYESs coming down tomorrow to the Hydro. Look forward to seeing the other wingers. Is there a meeting place?

Natasha

Hi guys
Only just got back from a funeral in deepest Essex and am posting on someone else’s computer, so I don’t know if this will show up, but I’m really looking forward to seeing you all tomorrow (today, now! just looked at the time). Remember to get there by 1.45 or they’ll assume you’re not coming and give your ticket to someone on the reserve list . . . 🙁

xxx 🙂

Natasha

Bugger! Never duplicate posted before!

Oneironaut

@Gillian_Ruglonian
“especially since the hat thing appears to have sprouted wings!!”

Hats over Scotland? 😀

Looking forward to tomorrow (err, later tonight I mean!)

Heading off to sleep for now, but I’ll leave behind a song that I’m thinking of using as my own theme song, as its title perfectly describes this stage of my life…

link to youtube.com

Night all! 🙂

Cactus

This was in a time when wearing a hat was second nature. Allow me to share a personal love of mines:

Glasgow Trams
link to youtube.com

PLEASE watch all 9 minutes and 57 seconds of it.. it’ll do you good.

See you all later on today groovy people of Scotland and Rev.

AuldA

Have a great day at the Hydro.
Please tell me afterwards if the SNP is more hydrophilic than hydrophobic, more hydroelectric than hygroscopic.
And Paula, watch out for our exiled Panda to show up unexpectedly!
Enjoy. Have fun.

cearc

Cactus,

Ahem, for some people (well me) wearing hats is still second nature.

‘.. it’ll do you good.’ Well actually, it made me feel sad but a great wee clip.

Have a great time tonight.

john king

Auld A says
“watch out for our exiled Panda to show up unexpectedly!”

Naw I cant see BtP coming all the way from France,
even for Nicola! 🙁

john king

Never mind though,
we can raise a glass to him in his absence. 🙂
see you all at the Hydro.

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Alan Mackintosh.

There’s a Wings get-together happening from 7pm in Drury Street, off Renfield Street, in the YES Bar and, possible the Horseshoe Bar, which are across the road from each other.

You can see them at the link below, then zoom out to get your bearings.

The view is from the Renfield Street end of Drury Street, looking east.

link to goo.gl

AuldA

@John King:

He said he’d come. He even offered a lift from wherever he had decided to overnight to Glasgow. You don’t remember? It must be on the preceding page in off-topic.

Have a great time!

AuldA

@John King:

Bugger (the Panda) says: (23 October, 2014 at 8:14 pm)
I am coming up to Glasgow for Nicola’s rally at the Hydro at the end on November.

Anybody up for a wee night somewhere in Glasgow after?

🙂

BtP

desimond

John King

I wont make it.
I have mailed you the ticket.
Anyone seeing John at Hydro please let him know to check his email thanks

Alex Clark

@desimond

I’ve sent John a text in case he has already left home. Hopefully he gets the ticket.

Graeme Doig

To all those great wingers I’ve met ( Ian, Ronnie, John and Irene, Cactus) and all the great winger’s i haven’t, have a fantastic day and night in Glasgow. You are all an inspiration.
I believe we can keep the party going all the way to our independence.

Ian Brotherhood

@Graeme Doig –

Cheers mister. I’m in the house.

I hate missing WOS gigs, but I’ve exams looming, so the theory was that I’d stay in, perhaps do some light reading, and avoid the knees-up which would surely wipe me out for tomorrow as well.

Will have to content meself with posting some YT music vids. Not quite the same, but greatly looking forward to the stories streaming in later…the WOS Abroath episode was comedy gold.

Have a braw nicht mister!

AuldA

@Ian:
All the best for your exams! In France, we say ‘keech’. It’s supposed to give you luck.
I knew the slight anxiety you must feel that quite some time ago.
Now, I’m on the other side of the fence… I grade them! 🙂

Morag

We’re in the Counting House. About 20 of us.

AuldA

@Morag:

Bon appétit ! 🙂

Tam Jardine

Natasha

Paula Rose is looking for you in Yesbar if you are still at large

Ian Brotherhood

@AuldA –

Cheers indeed.

Have to say, hard-going as it is at times, I’d much rather be on this side of the fence – the very idea of having to grade the kind of stuff I end up writing makes me nauseous…a grim task to be sure.

Anyway, let’s see what happens tonight – and who will post comment 333,333?

Oneironaut

Posting this from the Counting House.

Anyone else out there? 🙂

Ian Brotherhood

Bowie, ‘Suffragette City’ (live) –

link to youtube.com

Oneironaut

Just to let everyone know that the Wings get together has moved to the Counting House.
Anyone who isn’t there yet, get yer bum over here quickly!

Still MIA:
Cactus
Dixie
Natasha
Gillian_Ruglonian
John and Irene King
Desimond
Kevin and Del Boy
And anyone else I can’t think of right now! 😀

Ian Brotherhood

Queen, ‘Keep Yourself Alive’ (live)

link to youtube.com

AuldA

@Ian:

Yeah, sometimes one must gather a lot of determination and stamina to grade some papers. Hopefully, this time it’s a quizz.

You believe in numerology? 🙂

What happens tonight?
Guy Béart: le grand chambardement (the big turmoil) : link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

@AuldA –

Your comment (above, at 9.12) was number 333,333.

Not sure whether congratulations are in order, but there ye go!

Ian Brotherhood

PS My last YT link was intended for Oneironaut – stay safe buddy!

Oneironaut

@Ian Brotherhood
“PS My last YT link was intended for Oneironaut – stay safe buddy!”

I don’t like being safe. I like to live on the edge! 😉

“Danger” is my middle name!

AuldA

@Ian:

YEAH! Thanks Ian! That’s a solace for not being in Glasgow tonight.

Catch you at post 666,666 now. The post of the two-headed beast!
(Hopefully there won’t be a post #666,666. Scotland will be independent before!)

john king

Auld A says
“@John King:

He said he’d come. He even offered a lift from wherever he had decided to overnight to Glasgow. You don’t remember? It must be on the preceding page in off-topic.”

I was only jesting,
my wife and I had been for lunch with him in Freuchie yesterday. 🙂

Oneironaut says
Still MIA:

Oh, I’ve never been MIA before,
maybe I’ve been wounded in action or something,
or maybe Im sittin in the hoose cos a couldny find ma wiy oot o a paper bag?

sorry guys I really wanted to be there! 🙁

john king

oneironaut says
“Danger” is my middle name!”

Don’t I know you?
you don’t have a friend called Penfold do you?

Ian Brotherhood

To all the Wingers in Glasgow – youse are making history up there, with the RIC and Hydro-people. Today will go down as a major hernia for the British state.

Here are some more legends.

Spinal Tap, ‘Stonehenge’ (live, Glastonbury 2009) –

link to youtube.com

john king

In my defence I am working tomorrow,
dammit.

cearc

Love and kisses to you all in CH. Have fun.

chipmonkey

Missing you all xx Keep an eye on that Paula… don’t want any repeat of the damage to the floor in Invergowrie from those heels-and Glasgow might not be so forgiving about skinny dipping and the gym incidents. (Or was it me in the Gym? No matter).
Ian… how did you get a picture on your comment? Hope your studying is going well.

Oneironaut

Hello Fiona

It’s Thepnr here, I tried to phone Graham on your home number but got unavailable number. Sorry you couldn’t make it. Hope we can catch up sometime, 🙂

chipmonkey

Texted our home no. to Alex (If I got the right number. Not right now,but hope to speak soon. Thanks Oneironaut.

Oneironaut

Hmm, that was odd. Felt like someone was taking over my mind for a moment.
Back now! 😀

Valerie

Hope you can see my pics from the Hydro

link to dropbox.com

Ian Brotherhood

@chipmonkey –

Do you mean the wee avatar?

Long time…suspect I may have got my son to do it for me, but I’m sure it was straightforward enough. If I can get him to remind me I’ll pass it on…

Ian Brotherhood

Oi!

Wingers Over Glasgow!!

Some up-to-date reports, please?

cearc

Ian,

I think they’re all too busy watching Paula Rose demonstrating her famous pole-dancing routine on the lampposts of George sq.

Ian Brotherhood

Right.

That’s it.

Nearly one in the morning?

Where are y’all?

If I was your mum I’d be calling the cops by now.

Oneironaut?

Paula Rose?

Alex?

Cactus?

Ronnie?

TJenny?

If I find out that you’re all in Clatty Pat’s and didn’t tell me that was the plan? There will be hell to pay…

Oneironaut

@Ian Brotherhood
Actually I’m back home now.
Can’t quite remember how I got here. I do have a phone number for a Manky Mandy… (Must be a cleaning service I was going to hire, the house does need a bit of a tidying up!)
And in my other pocket, I’ve got a ball of hairy string and a pair of frilly tartan panties with the Wings logo on them.
Curious…

Anyways, gotta go for now. Need to find a hacksaw, these handcuffs are really chafing!
Then I’m off to sleep. Night all! 😀

Thepnr

@Ian Brotherhood

I’m currently shacked up with Paula Rose in Giffnock! Eat yer heart out lol.

Good night as alaways, saw Oneironaut, Ronnie, TJenny. Cactus was posted as missing. Sorry you couldn’t make it, nor Natasha.

Wings still standing proud thoug

link to youtube.com hahaha

Ian Brotherhood

@Oneironaut/Alex –

Cheers for putting my mind at rest.

Your differing circumstances sound more or less secure, so I can stop worrying that y’all were arrested for this, that, or t’other.

Hoots to y’all.

cearc

…a pair of frilly tartan panties with the Wings logo on them.

Must be Ronnie’s.

Ian Brotherhood

@Ronnie, Oneironaut, Paula, Alex, et al (whoever he is) –

If it turns out that I get a campaign badge for this evening, I will wear it proudly – 20 years hence, nay a fortnight from now, I will be convinced that I was there with y’all tonight.

To all those who are about to get to their pits – I salute ye’s!!

Betty Boop

@Thepnr, 1:20am

I hope you’re not keeping Paula Rose up!

Betty Boop

And a good night was had by all.

Ronnie (in charge of the search party) rounded up stray Wingers. Briandoonthetoon and Pete the camera were in charge of decorations and BtPanda, by way alcoholic enticements, nearly recruited a couple of young ladies to the cause. Cactus was missing in action, no sign of the hat after one brief encounter.

Great to see so many, missed those who couldn’t make it, see y’all next time. Ian B, I’m talkin’ to you and John and Irene, Cearc, Chipmonkey,QQ,Natasha and Cactus for longer than 2 minutes, anyone else I’ve missed.

Ronnie, hope you remembered to pick up the poles – no not Paula Rose’s props – the banner!

Paula R – your stroke is delightful… mwah!

Like I said, we’re fabulous 🙂

chipmonkey

Ian… I am confused as usual. I tapped a box some time ago and off topic pops on to my phone as emails. For some reason your ‘one for the ladies’post came through with a photo not just a link, which hasn’t happened before. I thought it was that way on off topic too.
I actually would like to know how to do an avatar though!

john king

Chipmonkey

logon to gravatar
link to en.gravatar.com
and upload picture of choice
and it will automatically appear as your “gravitar where ever you might put on a post, Wings, Bella, Wee Ginger Dug, well you get what I mean. 🙂

john king

Oneironaut @ 1.11
Now that’s what you call a night out,
dammit. 🙂

john king

Alex Clark says
“I’ve sent John a text in case he has already left home. Hopefully he gets the ticket.”

Text?
I never even got to grips with telegrams. 🙂

john king

Was I the only one who heard that wee girls voice break when she was singing the Stanley Odd song, “Son I just wrote this”

My heart went out to her,
ITS NOT OVER SWEETHEART,
ITS NOT OVER!

john king

Oneironaut
your “Manky Mandy” gag reminds me of a great night out I had in Arbroath, what? you kin hae a guid nicht in Arbroath and get a smokie oan yer way hame, 🙂

How I ended up on a trawler though I don’t know, but the crowning moment was when I woke up,

IN TROMSO GETTING MY FACE LICKED BY A SEAL!

AuldA

@John King:

Your fate was sealed.

Maybe you had big whiskers at that time? 😛

Jim Thomson

@Morag – you know that watch you mentioned well, I now know exactly what time it is, twice a day, at 3:31 – spooky or what 😉

Jim Thomson

@cearc 12:51am

I have to say, Paula’s ability to use those street lamps and remain clear of the wrap-round Christmas lights and decorations is nothing short of spectacular. The local bobbies were standing back in amazement.

No tazering was required, it was a simply electrifying performance on its own.

AuldA

@Jim Thomson:

If what you say about Paula is true – and I don’t doubt it – then I know why the damsel is with the Greens: she alone can supply electricity for the whole Scotland!

Natasha

Right, that explains it! While I was going up to strangers in hats in the Yesbar and braving some very nasty looks from the unionists in the Horseshoe, you were all living it up in the Counting House! I need to get a smartphone. I did end up at a party with my in-laws in Milngavie, but that’s small consolation.

Keep my badge for me, Brian Doonthetoon. And I knew ALL the words to ‘Son I Voted Yes’. What a great experience that was. We only just made it into the Hydro at five to two, so that’ll be why we didn’t see Ronnie and the banner.

I’m sure I saw Taranaich doing a little dance in the foyer afterwards, but I didn’t feel confident enough to go up to him – if it was him!

Love you all, see you another time.xxx

AuldA

Geez.

An English bomb dating back to WW I has been dug out in downtown Rennes during excavations made for the building of the second underground line. 3,000 people have been evacuated.

link to twitter.com

English people are definitely uncouth. They don’t even throw their litter properly away into the dumpsters. How rude.

Brian Doonthetoon

As usual, it was a convivial evening last night.

Pete, my son and I arrived the Counting House around 6.20, grabbed a table and ordered nosebags. Then I nipped outside for 5 minutes to observe Glasgow at play(?).

And who was there? Cactus and Dixie, going for a wee wander before the YES Bar meet at 7. Back into the CH, was accosted by Ronnie, Jim T, Betty Boop, et al, lubricating before the YES Bar.

Onnyhoo, the consensus, among those who had just been in the YES Bar, was that we should stick with the CH. So, just after 7, Ronnie headed to the Yes Bar & Horseshoe to look for misplaced Wingers.

He and I, and my son (I think TJenny was with us as well) headed back to Drury Street just after 8, to see if we could sweep up those that Oneironaut posted ‘MIA’ in a post up above.

Went all round the Horseshoe and the YES Bar, specifically looking for the two vertical opposites Cactus and Natasha and the visually unmistakable John King but no luck.

Onnyhoo, back in the CH, it was fine to put faces to names, like Oneironaut, Taranaich and his mum, Proud Cybernat and Mrs Proud Cybernat, Morag (whom I think I saw at the Edinburgh get-together) Alistair Grapevine, Crazycat, Kininvie, and so on.

Before embarking on the lamp post shenanigans, Paula Rose ensured that everyone was stroked by her presence, dear.

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I made a point of telling Tam Jardine that it’s Edinburgh’s turn for a get-together now, so he’d better get cracking, and find an Edinburgh equivalent of the CH, which he thinks may be in George Street(?).

Lastly, looking forward to meeting Wingers next Sunday, at the Dundee St Andrew’s Day march and gathering. For those of you not on Facebook, I’ve uploaded the poster for this to my webspace. You can see it here:-

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Oneironaut

@john king
“IN TROMSO GETTING MY FACE LICKED BY A SEAL!”

I hate it when they do that and don’t even call you the next day. You feel so taken advantage of!

@Natasha
Aww, I was hoping to meet you too.
Maybe next time 🙂

ronnie anderson

@ BrianDT & PeteTC could yous please save me a couple of Paula Roses Strokes,that Rid Biddy French Scotsman BuggerTP, purr_loined mine,sees yous next week.

Quinie frae Angus

So sorry I missed the day altogether.

Am going to try to make it to the Dundee rally though.

So glad to see the Wingers’ socials are still going strong!

Natasha

@Brian Doonthetoon
I’m torn now between Dundee and Faslane on the 30th! My conscience says Faslane, but my heart says Dundee. If you can promise the Wings banner will be there so I can actually find you, I’ll come to Dundee. 🙂

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Natasha.

I think the Counting House has achieved the status of ‘reset to default’ in the Wings Community. If Wingers aren’t where they’re supposed to be, a trawl round the nooks of crannies of the CH may yield results.

We obviously missed you in Drury Street. Were you hiding behind the leg of a stool? Cactus usually stands out in a crowd, due to his height of 8’6″. But we didn’t see anyone being dwarfed in either of the Drury Street pubs.

But seriously… Ronnie has bestowed upon me the honour of the title of “Protector of the Wings Banners”, in advance of next week’s involvement in the YES City Gathering. They are safely ensconced in my son’s bedroom.

We hope to organise a Wings involvement in the march and have a stall in Fat Sams to promote Wings. So both banners should have a visible presence.

So, If anyone has any Wings promotional materials (leaflets, posters, business cards, hairy string and so on) that we could use, could you please let Ronnie Anderson know so that, hopefully, he can bring stuff up to Dundee next weekend?

Jim T and Betty Boop – I can’t remember if you said you were gonna come to Dundee next weekend.

.
Hi Chipmonkey and Quentin Quayle.

Yooz twa coming to Dundee next weekend?

.
Hi Ronnie.

Your request for another stroke will be met in full by Paula.

.
In the meantime, here are two of the bands who are on the bill for Fat Sams…
First off, the Graham Brown Band. This clip is shows them performing at the Bannockburn 700yrs Music Event.

link to youtube.com

The second clip features Dundee band ‘Independence’, who have had that name since 1997.

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

Have we ever played any Elkie Brooks? What a chanter.

‘Lilac Wine’ (live) –

link to youtube.com

Paula Rose

Sunshine after the rain – Ian honey c’est pour toi!

link to youtube.com

AuldA

@Paula Rose:

Ian honey c’est pour toi!

Splendid! I see your French is improving. BtP has probably given you some private lesson.

Instead of ‘honey’, you can try:
‘chéri’ (that’s ’darling’)
‘mon cœur’ (i.e. ‘my heart’)
‘mon lapin’ (i.e. ‘my bunny’)
‘chou’ or ‘mon chou’ (very much used = ‘my cabbage’)

E.g.: ‘Ian mon chou, c’est pour toi’. Perfect French.

Jim Thomson

@Brian Doonthetoon

regrettably Betty & I will be assisting with a bit of a relocation in another airt over the weekend.

You guys (and gals) will carry the banner(s) high and with aplomb, we’re certain. 😛

Ian Brotherhood

One day we’ll all get together to sing this. (Bags me the cool dude on the xylophone…)

If you can get to the end of this without shedding a tear then you are, actually, dead.

Donna Summer, Night of the Proms, ‘State Of Independence’ –

link to youtube.com

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Jim.

You’ve been reading Ron Manager’s autobiography, “Marvellous isn’t it”, iye?

He makes much use of ‘aplomb’, ‘mantle with aplomb’…

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

@Paula Rose –

Merr-see bow-coo ma ‘eye-‘eeled chou.

Paula Rose

@ AuldA XXX

Brian Doonthetoon

Je taime moi non plus, sur la pont d’Avignon. Le plume de moi tante est formidablé. Frere Jacque est dormé vou, ne pas?

I give up…

Brian Doonthetoon

OOPS! And this one for Paula Rose.

link to youtube.com

Ian Brotherhood

@Paula Rose –

Someone’s stealing your patter. Check this out, at approx. 1 min 27 secs…

‘Jimmy Krankie as Susan Boyle’ –

link to youtube.com

AuldA

@Paula: thanks!

@Brian: hmmm… A bold move, but there is much to learn! 😉

Good night y’all!

Taranaich

I’ll be putting a wee post about the SNP tour and the gathering with the fine folk of Wings soon, but I had to comment on that scoundrel Brown chickening out of his just desserts:

link to wildernessofpeace.wordpress.com

chipmonkey

@Briandoonthetoon Yes we will come on Sunday,QQ and I. Are we meeting up before it all kicks off to set up etc.? Should I be checking somewhere on Facebook?

Brian Doonthetoon

AuldA – je parle non Francais. Je ken only that sur la media.
Ich habe eine kleine Deutsh. Two big hits from the time of my visit to Würzburg in the summer of 1968…

link to youtube.com

link to youtube.com

Brian Doonthetoon

AuldA – je parle non Francais. Je ken only that sur la media.
Ich habe eine kleine Deutsh. Two big hits from the time of my visit to Würzburg in the summer of 1968…

link to youtube.com

link to youtube.com

It’s surprising that beliefs you have held can be totally undermined by Wikipedia. I checked out the “Wencke Myhre” page, to find out that she wasn’t even German!

“Wenche Synnøve Myhre (born 15 February 1947, in Kjelsås, Oslo), in some countries known as Wencke Myhre, is a Norwegian singer and actress who has had a great number of hit songs since the 1960s in the Norwegian, Danish, German as well as the Swedish markets and languages.”

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Chipmonkey.

I just did a post with two YouTube links that ‘off-topic’ took the huff at. Hooanhowever…

I wanted to check with you re next weekend. I’ll take communication over to email so as not to clog up ‘off-topic’ with spurious posts. Eh, right!

I’ll send out a group email, hopefully in the next 24 hours, re arrangements for next Sunday. Paula and Ronnie are onboard, along with Pete and I, and maybe a couple of lurkers, with whom I am acquainted.

Stay tuned for news at 11… whenever…

8=)

Brian Doonthetoon

ACH! It’s the built-in glitch that when you do a post that creates a new page here, after your post is accepted, the site takes you back to the previous page, so you think your post has been rejected.

So, that’s twice I have had the honour of creating a new page!

I am humbled… Again.

Paula Rose

@ the lovely chip monkey and QQ – I don’t know if I will be in Dundee, but am I correct that you are in Alyth? It’s near to Brechin – my SO/OH et moi would love to meet up in your town xx

Jim Thomson

Thanks to @Brian Dtt (stoap dae’in that new page hingy) this fine linking post by @Taranaich might be submerged a page back from here. So just to keep it visible …

link to wingsoverscotland.com

Oneironaut

@Taranaich
Good article there 🙂

Was great to meet you at last too! 😀

Paula Rose

Meeting Tarannaich and the adorable Geraldine was not only a highlight of Saturday, but of the year XXX

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Paula.

You PROMISED that you would be there on Sunday to help with setting up the stall. You CANNOT renege! I will be forced to put my hand on my hip and stamp my foot!

BTW: is your ‘SO/OH’ Minxie?

.
Hi Jim.

Something weird’s going on with Taranaich’s link. When I click on it, it takes me back to the previous WOS page.

So I went to Taranaich’s blog at:

http://wildernessofpeace.wordpress.com

And I saw the story. So, if the links don’t work for you, go to,

link to wildernessofpeace.wordpress.com

then click on,

“The Man Who Bought The Union Some Time”.

Paula Rose

Oi you lot – I wanted the top slot, for those who lurk, Brian Doonthetoon and the hunky adorable magnificent Pete the Camera are the absolute gents.

Brian Doonthetoon

Och Paula, you were always lateral. You want the top slot – I’m happy with the one in the middle. Mind you, I don’t have your worldliness.

Paula Rose

@ Brian insecticide – bastard, I wanted that one.

Paula Rose

Someone has to be spiritual

link to youtube.com

chipmonkey

@Brian Doonthetoon – well that was confusing. I was the last post (day is done, gone the sun) so no-one will get to read it unless trapped in the old page vortex like I was! Email it is 🙂

@Paula Rose… a foursome? Goodness. Yes Please. I think I’d better take that to email too! QQ is of to the land of nod, so tomorrow we can come up with a plan. Which, of course, we can discuss further on Sunday, since you must come. I don’t want to have to deal with B DtT in a strop and stamping his feet again.

Paula Rose

my darling chipper – email honey

Brian Doonthetoon

Can I just say, “Gadzooks!”.

The only reason I mention that is that I have started re-reading a book called “The Yellow Frigate”, written in the 1850’s and set in the 1450’s, around Dundee.

And I found it culturally disconcerting to read that Dundonians used the phrase “gadzooks!’ in the 1450’s.
Next thing, they’ll be saying, “Catch you anon”, and
I’m not having that, coz I’ve claimed that phrase! So there!

Ian Brotherhood

@Brian Doonthetoon –

As you probably know, ‘gads!’ is, in Ayrshire, a common term in daily use, and means ‘eeugh!’ – finding a maggot in one’s apple, or standing on a slug barefoot…’Gads!’.

Connected?

Brian Doonthetoon

So, Ian, where do the”zooks” squirm their way into?

BTW: Did you get your badge?

Ian Brotherhood

@Brian Doonthetoon –

Me no know where the zooks do go…

Badge?…no, not yet. But I’m looking forward to seeing it – it’s not the ‘I’ve Been Stroked By Paula Rose’ one by any chance?

Cactus

Hi all, we had a bite to eat then went walkabout furrabit.. headed down to the Drury Street bars to see who was there.

We tried a couple other bars then my friend had to head off, but I found myself in the company of some very friendly femmes. By Sunday I felt like Sheriff Bart after a session with Lili von Shtupp!

Glad to hear ewes had a good time in the Counting House and hope to see you all at the next one 😉

Brian Doonthetoon

Nah, I think it’s just your personal “I was there so NYAH” badge.

You will have to approach Paula to be stroked, badge-wise.

Or be at the Gathering in Dundee next Sunday…

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Ian.

Oneironaut’s got your badge.

.
Cactus, you were involved in nefarious practices, iye, and that’s why you never made it to the CH, iye, iye?

Dixie will be ashamed at your conduct. You’ll better make it up to Dundee next Sunday, or all will be made public!

Oneironaut

@Ian Brotherhood
Want me to drop your badge off later on? 🙂

For now, I’m just heading out to stock up on some essential junk food supplies and to see if I can track down a copy of the new National in this town…

Ian Brotherhood

@Oneironaut –

I doubt you’ll find any – I went around the shops earlier and bought ten, so I’ll swap you one of them for the badge!

Oneironaut

@Ian Brotherhood
Well the badge is yours anyway 🙂

Please note however, I’ll only be passing on the badge.
As for what Paula wanted me to pass on, I’m afraid I’m not sure I’m physically capable of that. And besides, I don’t own a pair of tartan Yes heels anyway! 🙂

Jim Thomson

@Brian Doonthetoon 10:35pm (yesterday)

if you read the words of the post, dear boy, you’ll see that I was intending to put you back onto Young Taranaich’s post on the previous page (seemed fairer to let him bang his own drum (so to speak)) 😉

Brian Doonthetoon

Och Jim t – the creation of a new page always causes me grief!

Onnyhoo, I was just about to post here…

I’ve just found out via Facebook that Stewart Hosie has agreed to be one of the speakers (at around 3.15) at the St Andrew’s Day YES City gathering.

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chipmonkey

All this talk of ‘dadges’ Brian. At the rally thingy at the end of the SNP conference in Perth I got chatting to a nice chap (Who me? Chatting to strangers in a crowd? Really?) … a nice chap who was admiring my collection of ‘wings’badges. He said he’d been trying for ages to get one,but they are really hard to find. (I gave him one I had a spare of.)
There were other (non-wings) badges on sale there on the street in Perth. Even online the only ones I can see of wings are the ‘I’m on the list’and ‘alert reader’ones which don’t actually say ‘wings’.
For Sunday,would you have time to make some basic ‘Wings over Scotland’ ones? I think they could be popular for a small charge so you’d recover your costs.

john king

Whats this Jims telling me about a couple in the counting house on Saturday? the woman was sporting a wings badge and told Jim (BtP) that she got it from “John Kings long suffering wife”
Jim recalls the guy as a DAILY MAIL REPORTER,

The only way that description makes any sense is if those people were at the last Counting House soiree Irene and I were at when she wore a badge that said John kings long suffering wife,
we’re being stalked guys,
caution!

Alex Clark

Is that news John? Get it in The National LOL.

Natasha

I have to confess two embarrassing things: firstly, I accosted a man in a hat in the Yesbar and asked him if he was from Wings; he said, “What, Paul McCartney?” and obviously thought I was trying to pick him up. Secondly, that party I went to with my in-laws; it was in a MASONIC LODGE!!! It was the only venue they could get! I honestly thought I was going to go up in flames when I walked through the door, and the looks I got from the bar staff when they saw all my SNP and Yes badges – well, say no more.

We’ll be in Dundee on Sunday; I want my badge! 🙂

Betty Boop

Natasha, I was already curled up, rolling around “fit-like” (apologies to folks from Buchan, no offence intended) at the thought of you tapping guys on the knees and sounding like a groupie before you mentioned your mission into the Masonic Lodge.

After your experiences in Glasgow, I can only suggest that you watch yourself in Dundee next week where you might come into contact with Arabs and, who knows how you could offend their sensibilities 🙂

Sorry that Jim T and I cannot make it to Dundee next weekend; I would love to see the fun.

I am sure Brian could design a very unique badge for you.

Jim Thomson

@ John King, 8:41pm

we’re being stalked guys,
caution!

John, are you sure that BtP isn’t taking the p? Only two couples I know of in CH on Saturday and I was one half of one of them.

I am presuming the Panda made it home to his lodgings okay (without being stalked further). 🙂

Betty Boop

@ John King

Apologies, last post from Jim Thomson at 10:56pm was from Betty Boop. Address block won’t retain my details even though this is my area. Been doing that since all the probs started with the site after the ref. Bah…

Alex Clark

Wee song for you Betty, it’s not bad.

Whole Wide World

link to youtube.com

Betty Boop

Evening Alex.

Managing not to post as Jim. Did you have a wonderful night in deepest Giffnock with Paula R?

Was sorry we had to leave CH so early – blame First Scotrail for cancelling the later train on the Ayr line from their timetable. Last train at 11:30 on a Saturday when the night is still young!!

Good to see y’all and am still getting over Paula Rose “making it so” (PR will know what I mean)…

Ian Brotherhood

Van Morrison, ‘Cleaning Windows’, Rockpalast, 1982 –

link to youtube.com

ronnie anderson

BrianDT & PeteTC wee jock scots going to be in Dundee on Sun if yous could do a few badges with Yew Choob on the for Jock n Ninja using the Choob avitar.

Ian Brotherhood

Here’s Dexy’s Midnight Runners’ Van The Man cover, ‘Jocky Wilson Said’ –

link to youtube.com

Lenny Hartley

Can somebody point me in the direction of the guy who was making the badges for the yes bar on Saturday night.

I had asked for two and due to being totally knackered after the excitement of Ric and the Hydro had to head to my bed, Hope the guy has not made badges and been left with them?

Anway if he could post a response, if has still got the badges maybe we oould work out a deal to get them posted.

Alex Clark

@Ian Brotherhood

Now that was good, my era.

@Lenny Hartley

Pete the Camera is the badgemaker and BriandoonThetoon his sidekick. I’d guess he’ll be along soon to sort your dadges out.

Alex Clark

Nobody can make dadges like Brian LOL 🙂

Ian Brotherhood

One for the many WOS Jacob Rees-Mogg fans.

Here he is in fine form – albeit uncharacteristically aggressive – keeping it real in the HOC just a couple of weeks ago, much to the obvious discomfort of Theresa May and chums.

JRM! Respect due!

link to youtube.com

Alex Clark

Ian Brotherhood

You linked to Dexy’s again 🙂

Oneironaut

We have a stalker? Why did no-one tell me?! I’ve always wanted a stalker to mess with! 😀

@Betty Boop
I know the feeling.
I actually missed the last train back to Stevenston. Luckily I managed to hop onto the express going to Ayr. It stopped at Kilwinning, which isn’t that far off, so no worries there 🙂
Was nice to meet you! 😀

ronnie anderson

Other than Jim n BettyB, Proud Cybernat & Wife there was another couple & a younger couple sitting opposite Wee Johnny BTP & Me, I didnt catch they,re names.

Ian Brotherhood

Cheers Alex.

This should be it here. Well worth waiting for! 🙂

link to youtube.com

ronnie anderson

@ Paula Rose ( Brian insecteside) calm doon Paula or ah,ll no git a stroking badge, BrianDTT Paula,s very very very sorryfor corrupting your good name urnt you Paula.

Alex Clark

John Redwood? I had thought he had left us. sadly not it seems.

Cactus

Hey Brian Doonthetoon, aye, I’m hoping to make it across to iyeDundee on Sunday for your seasonal festivities.

I’m going to a gig at The Barrowlands this Friday, a couple of things doing on Saturday but Sunday should be good to go.

Also looking forward to Fridays Issue No. 5 of The National.. something tells me there will be ‘lots’ to talk about the previous days events!

In the press world.. anything can happen in the next four days 😉

john king

JT/BB says
“John, are you sure that BtP isn’t taking the p? Only two couples I know of in CH on Saturday and I was one half of one of them.”

Well I know Jim can be rather droll,
but I took him at his word,
but with hindsite your probably right,
Jim where are you you swine?

john king

“I made a point of telling Tam Jardine that it’s Edinburgh’s turn for a get-together now, so he’d better get cracking, and find an Edinburgh equivalent of the CH, which he thinks may be in George Street(?).”

Make it a Friday Tam,
Ahm no allowed oot oan a Saturday cos ah workin the next day. 🙁

john king

Alex Clark says
“Nobody can make dadges like Brian LOL”

Your right Alex I love Brian’s dadges. 🙂

AuldA

@Brian:

Schöne Anstrengung aber du brauchst noch einige kleine Verbesserungen, um etwas sinnvolles zu schreiben! 😛

@Ian:

As you probably know, ‘gads!’ is, in Ayrshire, a common term in daily use, and means ‘eeugh!’ – finding a maggot in one’s apple…

You mean, finding a maggot in one’s grub? 🙂

Of course I won’t be in Dundee, but a friend of mine will attend.

Does someone here play badgepipe?

Betty Boop

@ Ronnie Anderson, 12:21am

Other than Jim n BettyB, Proud Cybernat & Wife there was another couple & a younger couple sitting opposite Wee Johnny BTP & Me,

Ronnie, I had not realised there was another couple in the CH Wings entourage on Saturday.

Apologies to the couple if I did not see or acknowledge you. If you are “stalkers”, however, hope you learned how fabulous we are! 🙂

Betty Boop

@ Ian Brotherhood

When I found the correct link (no matter, I enjoyed Dexy’s too) I posted a comment about Rees-Mogg, but, it has disappeared into the ether.

Anyhoo, I enjoyed watching him put Theresa May back into her kennel. Their very own calling them underhand amongst other things. Respect to the eloquent and very annoyed Mr Rees-Mogg.

Reckon the Scottish WM contingent could do with their very own Rees-Moggy. Take note, AS, no disrespect to the wonderful Angus Robertson, Stewart Hosie and the rest – the more, the merrier.

For those who have not had the pleasure of HoC getting annoyed at being over-ruled at will, here is the link again:

link to youtube.com

Thanks Ian.

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi AuldA.

Eh ken, eh ken. Haven’t studied German since school and I never did French. Thus, mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist voller Aalen.

.
Hi Ronnie.

“badges with Yew Choob on the for Jock n Ninja using the Choob avitar”.

I’ll see what can be achieved.

.
Betty Boop – we’re hoping to do another Wings badge for Sunday, different to the ones we had with us on Saturday.

.
Lenny Hartley – did you ask for badges under different names? I ask, because “Lenny Hartley” wasn’t on the list I compiled from responses in ‘off-topic’.

Jim Thomson

@Morag … Thanks a bunch! [cough, cough, splutter, sniffle …]

You now have an empathiser 🙁

AuldA

@Morag, @Jim Thomson:

I knew some people here are pedantic.
But now, I can add two snotty ones! 😛

Betty Boop

@ Briandoonthetoon, 1:42pm

You know how I love your badges. You and Pete should start a badge shop!

Jim T and I will do our best to be there on Sunday if the house moving is sorted on Saturday, but, can’t promise.

We will be there in spirit if nought else.

I only studied German for a short time, enjoyable though it was and my very own fav practice sentence was: die katze is auf dem bratpfanne.

Never did get on with cats,’tis in jest, so apologies to cat lovers.

Jim Thomson

@AuldA that’s right, rub our noses in it [insert hankie-to-nose emoticon].

Just glad we have an open fire to be used as a disposal point for the “fallout” :-/

AuldA

@Betty Boop:

you have weird German tastes!
German must be quite difficult for English people. Genders, declensions, etc. Few words sound alike (e.g. ‘hound’ and ‘Hund’), but most are fairly different, because English borrowed a bevy of words from French.

@Jim :

That’s an interesting source of renewable energy, especially in Winter. Scots have always pioneered new sources of power: peat, and now snot. What do the Greens think about it? 😛

Alex Clark

Hey Jim Thomson!

I too have a present from Morag (thanks Morag) going on holiday on Friday too. Hope you both get well soon.

Meantime, check out Nicola Sturgeon as a Golden Retriever taking on Jim Murphy the German Shepherd at a Spaghetti-Eating Contest prior to FMQ’s 🙂

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