A Poor Example
Social media was having a good chuckle at this earlier today.
But as it turns out, it’s a bit more than just an embarrassment.
There’s no law against a former First Minister and current MSP shilling for his wife’s therapy business on the internet, even if some people might think there should be.
But Humza Yousaf’s wife Nadia El-Nakla is also an SNP councillor in Dundee.
And public servants shouldn’t break the laws that DO exist.
El-Nakla is advertising the £65 session as “women-only”. And the recent Supreme Court ruling in the For Women Scotland case was very clear indeed that services billed as being for women only had to mean biological women, or they would be in breach of the Equality Act 2010.
And that isn’t what El-Nakla means.
As very politely and concisely explained to El-Nakla by a number of people, a women-only event including men who self-identify as transwomen, but excluding men who don’t, is unlawful discrimination against the latter group of men.
Her professional body, the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy (BACS) issued a statement in the wake of the Supreme Court ruling which asserted its ongoing support for “the trans community”, but nevertheless accepted unequivocally that the ruling meant transwomen were not entitled to access single-sex spaces or services for women – even if they had a Gender Recognition Certificate, which the vast majority don’t and which the service provider isn’t allowed to ask for anyway.
Humza Yousaf’s workplace, where he was also once the Cabinet Secretary for Justice, has also acknowledged (and correctly acted on) the law.
So there’s no grey area, no doubt, and no wiggle room here. Nadia El-Nakla CANNOT lawfully offer a “women only” therapy session and then allow some biological males (but not others) into it. It must admit ALL men, or none.
It is plainly not acceptable for two taxpayer-funded elected representatives to advertise a law-breaking commercial venture, unless the law and judiciary of Scotland and the UK are intended to be held in even more public contempt than they already are. We await developments with interest.
As someone who lives across the road from a Mosque, I can assure you they wouldn’t admit chicks with dicks through the side entrance reserved for women. Humza proclaims his religion loudly (when it suits him).
There is part of me that wishes the far left get their dream of Scotland becoming an islamic state
Would be exceedingly funny when reality bites
Not for us in Scotland it won’t
Kin hell, 3 answers to st Yer baws
So this is the level of contribution to Wings now, is it?
How the mighty have fallen, son.
Has anyone seen Humza’s latest revelation on X where he claims India and Pakistan have been in touch with him to help resolve the situation in Kashmir? The man has gone quite mad in my opinion.
link to heraldscotland.com
7th May
Former first minister Humza Yousaf and former Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar have written to the leaders of India and Pakistan, urging restraint and de-escalation following the exchange of fire over Kashmir.
Writing as public servants and “men with roots in the subcontinent”, they called on Narendra Modi and Shehbaz Sharif to “resist the pull of conflict”.
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I’m really shocked that the fighting hasn’t stopped by now – don’t they realise how powerful and important Yousaf is in World Affairs?
Would it be allowed to have an event that is for women AND trans woman? I should think so, but would it? (Then you can ask how to define trans women, so let’s say, for sake of argument, whoever identifies as a woman (yes, I know….) )
Don’t think so. As explained above, biological sex is the determiner for a “same-sex” service.
“Trans women” are biological males, so excluding other biological males would be discriminatory to other biological males.
Anyone can have a meeting for anyone as long as you don’t misrepresent it. If she had publicised the event for women and transwomen that would have been okay because she wouldn’t be misrepresenting it. If she had said that, then women who don’t want to be amongst men for that type of event would have the option not to go, but saying it is for women and then including men, is against the EA.
This is what I would have thought.
As to discrimination to other men, I can discriminate, say, according to educational qualifications or height or whatever, so I should be able to discriminate towards men who don’t pose as women (I would have thought…) as long as I am upfront about it.
Don’t understand how so many people can read the ruling and still get it wrong. It is – and there will be summaries available – an example of clarity and logical reasoning. That is why Lady Haldane’s ruling, that led to the UKSC case being brought, was so spectacularly wrong. Personally, I have yet to understand how she reached that decision. I suspect that she, like Crawford and Boyle, in 2013/14 (on continuity status) started, not from the premise, but from an already-accepted conclusion which is turning both legal jurisprudence (legal philosophy) and moral philosophy and logic on their heads in pursuit of a pre established political position – allegedly – and a huge thumb-nose to the separation of powers. Quite shocking.
Many people with skin in the trans game don’t want to understand the ruling and think if they ignore it it will go away. They may have a point because I simply don’t trust the Labour government to hold the line in the longer term.
It will be interesting to see what happens at the EHRC later in the year. Baroness Falkner is already on a contract extension and I believe she will step down in December. So far she has been a staunch supporter of the judgment and I would bet a substantial amount of money that she will be replaced by somebody a lot more sympathetic to the Stonewall world view.
YouGov, British attitudes towards discrimination in the workplace, published 9th May.
By group, do you think positive discrimination has gone too far?
Net results comparing “too far” and “not far enough” (about right not factored in).
Transgender +5%
Ethnic minorities -1%
Gay, lesbian, and Bi +7%
Women -22%
Disabled -45%
Working Class -27%
Of course workplace discrimination positive or negative towards Transgender is something of an irrelevance as maist of them appear to identify as disabled and are oan the sick.
Maybe one of the 3 answer scenarios will start with the line;
Hey Babe, mind if I go out with my polycule and decapitate a TERF tonight?
It stinks like a Sturgeon-esk Franchise
34 Quid off,Decent people are not welcome
It all just seemed so obvious only a decade ago;
Biological men are men.
Biological women are women.
Anyone gets to dress up any way they want, wear wigs, makeup, call themselves what they desire … who cares.
However the first two points are immutable.
You have to be a whole new level of stoopid to advertise a women’s only event in her position
nah, you just need to make sure it is.
It is still obvious. Nothing has changed biological women are and always were women, the supreme court did not change the law in the equality act,
They only confirmed the law as it is in Britain. And always was,
They now need to confirm the law on deranged victem,s and mental help as this derangement makes them think they look like a biological ordinary woman by wearing frocks, bears lippy and lady shoes,
But the majority of of the population can see through the emperors new clothes.
Even a piece of paper does not hide the dick acting out behind it.
Whereas there is a minority that suffer genuine body dysphoria, these people are living quietly like the rest of us society.
The other loud abrasive uncouth ruffian sub-set that call themselfs trans women are a catagory that advertise their hate of women and threaten ordinary biolological women and childrens safety could be separately diagnosed with a mental illness that borders on hate crimes towards biological women and vunerable children.
For these particular groups loudly openly displaying this type of hatred personality, Perhaps it has more to do with trying to re arranging the law in preparation so that when they do pre plan a attack on biological female and children in advance they automatically have provided a clause for lawyers to provide a get out of Jail free card.
However the future dice rolls it is some of those particular group SNP that have already shown a alleged bias towards white people in Scotland doing well for themselves in educational positions.
And perhaps now the other half will display bias towards white scottish biological women and men,, because Scotland as a very high % of white people.
The problem is who is sitting in the parliament of Scotland.
Not the Parliament of Scotland.
Time for a DOGE.
Scottish trans activists are in “denial” about the Supreme Court decision that confirmed the term ‘woman’ in the Equality Act was based on biological sex. The Scottish Trans and Equality Network have written jointly to the Scottish Parliament Corporate Body after Holyrood bosses confirmed female toilets in the building would be confined to biological women.
In a letter to the SPCB, Scottish Trans and the Equality Network bosses said the decision “will exclude trans people from participating in Scottish democracy, whether as staff or as visitors to the Parliament”.
Holyrood presiding officer Alison Johnstone confirmed toilets designated as male or female would be based on biological sex but three toilets would be designated ‘gender neutral’.
She added: “We believe it is important to take these interim steps now not only to ensure we fulfil our legal responsibilities but to give clarity to all those using the building. Such clarity is an important element in offering all individuals confidence, privacy and dignity when using our facilities.
link to scottishdailyexpress.co.uk
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Three toilets for trans and they are not happy.
Expect faux queues at the GN ones. Which means there will be no TW or TM working, so that the queues can be meaningful and demonstrate their angst.
Another double digit lead for RefUK and another breach of the 30% barrier.
BMG Research, Westminster voting intention, field work 6 – 8 May, sample population 1,525.
Lab 22%, Con 19%, RefUK 32%, LibDem 13%, Green 9%
I can hear the sound of pitchforks being sharpened and smell the burning tar. The functionaries of the Permanent State must be getting mighty nervous.
How can the law and judiciary of Scotland and the UK be held in even more contempt?
Max contempt was reached lang syne.
There’s another story from this week’s news that nobody has mentioned on here (as far as I am aware).
The deal recently signed with India allows their nationals to come here to work and be exempt from National Insurance. So while our own indigenous workers are being priced out of jobs by Labour’s NI hikes, Indian workers are being advantageously priced into jobs by being offered exemptions from NI.
It stinks.
Something else that stinks is the complete inability of our Scottish Nationalist elites to leverage the overwhelming failures, indeed the actively anti-indigenous policies, of the eejits at WM into a plausible, popular and dynamic case for Indy.
So it’s gonna have to be Reform. At least they are still going through the motions of looking as if they give a shit.
And as the US redneck famously said, when told Trump was lying to him, “Nobody ever cared enough to be bothered to lie to me before!”
It’s concerning to see such a misleading claim going around. The latest trade deal with India doesn’t mean all Indian workers coming to the UK will avoid paying National Insurance (NI). What this deal does allow is for certain workers, like those on inter-company transfers (ICTs) or temporary assignments, to continue contributing to India’s social security system instead of paying UK NI — but only under specific conditions and typically for a limited period (usually up to 2 years).
To suggest that all Indian workers will be exempt from NI is not just inaccurate, it shows a lack of understanding of the details behind the agreement. Unfortunately, this kind of oversimplified claim plays into the gullibility often seen in the average Reform supporter who’s eager to latch onto Farage’s soundbites without questioning the facts.
This type of arrangement is very common in free trade agreements (FTAs), particularly in the context of posted workers or inter-company transfers (ICTs). It’s not unique to India, and similar provisions exist in the agreements the UK has negotiated with several other countries. For example:
EU Member States (under the EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement)
Switzerland (under the UK-Switzerland Trade Agreement)
Norway, Iceland, and Liechtenstein (under the UK-EEA EFTA Trade Agreement)
Japan (under the UK-Japan Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement)
Australia and New Zealand (under the UK-Australia and UK-New Zealand Free Trade Agreements)
Canada (under the UK-Canada Trade Agreement)
United States (under the UK-US Tax Treaty)
In each of these cases, inter-company transfers are often granted the ability to remain under their home country’s social security system for a period of time, which can help avoid double contributions, including National Insurance.
It’s important to approach these trade agreements with a bit more nuance. If you’re going to make such sweeping statements, at least get the basic facts right first. Exemptions are only for certain workers under specific circumstances, not for all incoming workers from India — or anywhere else, for that matter.
Thank you for your clarification.
The reality remains though, that for some high tech jobs, such as IT, UK employers will be incentivised to hire foreign workers.
And they will be dis-incentivised to train our own people to fill these jobs.
The fact that it’s “economic common sense” doesn’t detract from the reality. We once aspired to be a first-world country, with first-world skills and education, and firtst-world industries that earned us much needed foreign exchange.
When we find nationals of what used to be a third-world country holding down increasing numbers of our first-world jobs, because we can’t do them, or can’t afford to do them, then it’s us who are on the road to third-world status.
Incidentally, a personal anecdote. My younger brother lives in rural Scotland. Last year, fibre optic cables were laid around all the rural roads in his local area. The teams that did that were Indian.
It’s arguably IT-related to be digging trenches, laying plastic pipes and pulling cables through them, but any objective observer would wonder why we need to go half way around the world to find the boys to do that. Because fundamentally, it’s not exactly rocket science.
Hatey
You’d think you’d have twigged it by now that the mega rich corporations don’t like paying wages. It gives them cold sweats. Cheap labour, profits & shareholders come first & colonisers love to move ppl around too – there’ll be none of that nationalist – state ownership malarkey & throw in some dumbing down while they’re at it – it only gives the working class ideas. It’s much cheaper to just steal resources & that includes another country’s talent.
I’ve explained to you before that movement of ppl can be included in trade deals. Reform, if that’s who yer pitching yer wagon to, will change absolutely hee-haw. They can’t. They’d need to build from the ground up & they won’t because it’s those same corporations who pay their wages.
The great swindle of Capitalism & neoliberalism is coming home to roost under Trumps administration & with it, the UK. Greed made them think they’d rule the world by just flogging off the family silver to foreigners & they’d just sit back & outsource everything to cheap foreign labour. Jam today – fck all tomorrow & tomorrow has arrived. It was a grand plan on paper until the source cuts you off, smells desperation & starts imposing some rules of their own. I guess Thatcher never thought of that bit..LOL
Brexit has only added to the UKs tale of woe. A wee coloniser all out on its own without it’s wee colonising mates as leverage on trade deals.
Don’t blame anyone but yerself, matey. Eejits like you were always brainwashed to despise socialism & cried intae yer beer about benefit scroungers stealing all yer hard earned taxes whilst the real benefit scroungers (corporations) shafted you rotten & gave us zero hours & zero hope. Even today you eejits moan about the poor oil companies & UK government, robbing the North Sea blind of its wealth to fund the wealthy, cause it’s an expensive job, it’s running out & it’s worthless shite anyway so just give it away for free. That’ll work.
The UK has no industry, no skills, especially in all of the current science, tech, engineering & hasn’t a pot to piss in cause now financial services is on the block as they’re losing shipping insurance. That’s big business for the UK pirates & wee spies. No Goss for their wee black book of who was friggin in the rigging…
It’d take decades to become self sufficient & re-industrialise & ‘take back control’ Politicians are owned & Reform won’t save you because they’re part of the racket..
Of course there has been action with highly visible things like women’s sport but it’s becoming plain to see that despite the Supreme court ruling Trans women will be allowed the same services and spaces as women. They will only be segregated as a last resort.
An example of this will be same sex wards. A trans woman will be put on that and it is up to fellow patients to complain about it. Of course, they will be fogged off by cuts and shortage of beds and lets be honest about it, the NHS will be relying on the stress and anxiety of having loved ones in hospital to stop complaints in this scenario.
There was one of Sturgeon’s muppets on a previous topic running his mouth of about the Rev grifting on the Trans issue but this isn’t over yet and the Rev needs to keep highlighting these flagrant breaches of the law.
There will no doubt be blatant attempts to ignore or circumvent the law.
Hopefully those who have previously been pressured into accepting this nonsense will now have the confidence to speak out when they find it happening.
And yes, the Rev definitely needs to keep highlighting all such flagrant breaches.
It does feel that the only concrete outcome of the ruling has been safeguarding free speech and high profile activities like woman’s sport.
Besides, you read in the local newspapers of saying individuals getting let of charges of shop-lifting despite having scores and scores of similar convictions. The likes of me and you lifting a loaf and we’re doing time. There is a selective use of the law in this country and the same will apply to this ruling.
It’s up to the likes of the Rev to continue to keep the pressure on to ensure that this Trans ideology invading woman’s spaces doesn’t continue through the back door.
For me this article brings onto clear to light the rotten and corrupt behavior of political scum like Humza and his wife Nadia.
Every red line of conduct is broken here and it speaks volumes as to the probity of these two charlatans.
But we should already know that. Humza and his family by their conduct exposed over the years has revealed that over and over again.
Cheating on his then wife in an adulterous liaison with his now wife. Being convicted of driving without insurance when he was justice minister. Holding out he was a good Muslim but avoiding a parliamentary vote on spurious grounds which by his non attendance helped allow legislation to be passed utterly at odds with his proclaimed religion.
Or his sectarian hatred exposed by his white,white, white speech. Or the utterly outrageous playing of the race and religion card to try to secure a nursery place where agents masquerading to try to trap a nursery were deployed, to an intimidatory legal action which had it not been dropped by Humza would have exposed criminality, to a coincidental putting through the wringer by Government Agencies the popular nursery who did not have a place for the privileged ones offspring.
Or the ultra coincidental intervention of governmental agencies and the expenditure of charitable moneys to support the evacuation of a safe passage out of Gaza for Humza’s wife’s in-laws caught up with hundred of thousands of other trapped in Gaza.
Makes one wonder to what extent Humza may have pulled strings in relation to his wife Nadia’s brother caught up in a Dundee drugs and murder prosecution. No reports have emerged of his intervention or otherwise but Humza and party colleagues most certainly have form. To reconfigure a phrase it might be a good time for the police to consider what charges against who. Drugs only as opposed to an accessory to murder is certainly something not unreasonable to ponder.
And now this exposure of two people in paid political office promoting an illegal private business venture in contravention of not just the law but also of their so called faith.
And that folk is Humza and Nadia.
Many thanks to the Rev Stu for this article which exposes the continuing behaviours of these two pieces of political scum.
Turning the page by broadening the topic, not changing it.
The trans topic of corse was not invented in Scotland, but shipped in and pay-rolled at the top of parliament, the response of that parliament to long standing knowledge of human biology for millions of years is to blank it out of the brain by over riding it with new brain information called diversity training,
this training to be payed for by and in the parliament confines then dribblles its way down financially to local councils.
It is time that we realise this is constructive payed for organised destruction and crime against community and society.
In a sense, particularly here in Scotland we have witnessed this winding its way through our history previously.
Where Scottish leaders and politicians can and have been bought for gold, they would sell the people, their way of live their land.and their granny,
Take the supporting payments away from the politicians and all diversity brain training the nation stops.
Re- writing the peoples long standing history into wokery stops.
In this case we do not have the ability to stop the supporting finances seeping into Scotland political brains,
But we can stop voting for any or all politician or Councilors regardless of their political leanings that has held their hand for paid brain training.
As once it hits the lower Council levels, the Councils then start implementing the Brain training on us the people, the Community and on society using their mini slight of hand dictatorship laws.
So do not vote to have yourself and you’re families Brains and history retrained, that has happened before in Scotland, whereby your history as you knew it was removed and replaced with new foreign history to your nation.
It may require us not to vote.
Let the alleged parliament and alleged councils go naked of votes, go naked of support. Control the votes
Then replace the whole dam lot of them. One by one.
Five, Westminster voting intention polls conducted with field work exclusively in May. Average results as follows:
RefUK 29.8%, Lab 22% Con 18.4%, LibDem 14.6%, Green 9.2%
Plug these numbers into the Electoral Calculus algorithm, and RefUK come out with an overall majority of 56.
Seat projection: RefUK 353, Lab 139, LibDem 62, SNP 38, Con 28, Plaid 4, others 26
On the electoral map, north of the border, Labour appear reasonably certain of two seats (Ian Murray, and the Western Isles), the Tories keep one seat (Berwickshire, Roxburgh & Selkirk), around ten are too close to call. Otherwise, the turquoise of RefUK stops abruptly at the Tweed / Solway line, and the north of England is a sea of RefUK redoubts. Labour have zero safe seats in Wales.
This is the graphic equivalent of the Brexit map. Scotland is clearly differentiated from our neighbour. This is slightly disingenuous, as it downplays the support for RefUK in Scotland picked up in sub-samples. Such are the vagaries of first-past-the-post.
Swinney will declare his “summit against right wing extremism” an unparalleled act of genius. The middle class journos (Dani Garavelli, et al) who circle the same waters as our parasitical politicians will clap like circus sea lions because it’s not in their interest to think too deeply about the substantially arithmetic reasons behind this phenomenon.
We’ll be forced fed a diet of platitudes about how we’re “kinder” and “fairer” (with a side order of grievance). Our permanent managerial class will garner another five years of eye watering salaries and pension contributions, while delivering the square root of hee-haw.
And I wonder what would happen if 98-% of Scotland refused to vote at local and main elections.
And the same happened in Ireland.
Could Scotland and Ireland change the political landscape demographics.
Should Scotland leave the union so we can have completely unlimited immigration?
As the biggest driver behind the Reform vote is they are an anti-immigration party
Immigration you say?
C’mon YS, thought you said you’d been keeping an eye on us lot.
Just because you’ve rocked up here recently doesn’t mean there was no prior discussion on various subjects before you started posting.
Here’s my relatively recent take on immigration and policy.
link to wingsoverscotland.com
You could be more alert by perusing and absorbing over a decade of past btl commentary to get more up the curve.
So you want controlled immigration
Welcome to the FAR RIGHT
Can a concerned neighbour please check on James Kelly on SGP as he seems to have suffered a complete mental collapse in his paranoia over the Rev.?
Back to the Humzas original video pitch. The three responses are toe-curlingly sexist, as is the whole scenario depicted.
To illustrate, switch the male and female roles in the video. The traditional, sexist, stereotypical views of men and women’s relationships are starkly revealed.
I don’t need to spend £65 for such rubbish. I can go and spend my hard earned £65 in TackyMaxx along the road instead.
relationship advice?
this is un-islamic nonsense; I have 30 clerics opinions which tells me
Humza can do what he likes, without saying hee-haw and if his wife says anything
HE CAN HIT HER WITH HIS SHOE (or a small whip)
ultimately a woman who doesn’t know when to shut up can be returned to her family (within a period, like in the sale of goods act), the dowry kept and then it is up to them; this may mean
HONOUR KILLING
having too many daughters will ruin a man, dowries and all that. And one that “just dont know when to quit” to moderate the back-sass, she is damaged goods anyway – what are you going to do with her? Have her in the house – what kind of work is she good for?
Humza’s wife – I don’t get it – where is her hijab? Why is she addressing strangers in public on social media.
If I was Humza’s imam I would be telling him to get his house in order.
That’s a very English attitude you are showing towards the glory of islam there
If you’re a TRUE SCOT then you should embrace islam
It all starts to make sense if you imagine Mrs Humza is trans. That gets her a bye on all the restrictions an Islamic tradwife is expected to be bound by. Including somebody taking a rusty blade to her lady bits.
And why shouldn’t we let our imaginations run free? It’s the likes of Humza and the rest of his deranged colleagues who rammed the genderwoowooshite down our throats.
Not one of them has any grounds for complaint if we chuck it right back at them.
They created the climate we live in, where people are feart to call a man a man or a woman a woman, and we’re all supposed to believe the most ludicrous pish imaginable.
They can suck it up like the rest of us have to.
I think I know what the problem is here : Humza’s wife has not been “cut”.
This is the root of all.
The prophet said god gave sexual desire 1 part to men and 10 parts to women and so, clearly, if girls aren’t “cut” at the right age they will inevitably become prostitutes or simple whores who are useless as wives, mothers and producers of grandchildren.
Much too late for her now. What a waste. You see in her biography a great deal of whoring, twice married, affairs, 3 children by 2 men. A “hingoot”.
I hope Humza doesn’t make this mistake with his own daughters.
Best way, to avoid infidel law, is to arrange a family holiday back in the old country. Get it done then.
NB if politicians are promoting tranny surgery for all and sundry, I don’t see what the problem is with female genital mutilation.
Outcomes are what matter, if it works, it works; the muslim world is not facing a demographic collapse, and no feminism to speak of. Join the dots.
O/T
@RevStu
Just read your post over at BEEX, almost choked on my Bran Flakes! Bravo.
Haven’t laughed like that for a good while
Yeah, bet you *really* miss those days reviewing chairs, as opposed to earning millions, amirite?
If you try to force me to adhere to the laws and regulations LAID DOWN and enforced????? in Scotland and the ruk, I will be forced to claim RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY , RACISM, ISLAMAPHOBIA , TRANSPHOBIA , HATE CRIME , OR ANY combination of the above that will enable me to REMAIN above the law and facilitate a defence against the blatant oppression by the state on abused and vilified ethnic minorities , I have a history of using these get outs when I don’t get my way and I will not hesitate in continuing to do so
It is amazing how quickly Craig Murray was prosecuted and IMPRISONED for the charge of CONTEMPT OF COURT yet we have msp’s and ex FM’S spit (not my FM) spouses BLATANTLY and PUBLICLY announcing their CONTEMPT of a SUPREME COURT RULING, it truly is not what you know BUT who you know that keeps you out of prison
I see that nice poot boy has insisted he leads his country in providing an “indestructible barrier against Nazism, Russo phobia and antisemitism”.
It’s heartening to observe that shite politicos spouting manifestly obvious shite is not just a feature of the west.
The Orcs, Covid Spreaders and the Mud Eaters seem to be stuck with it too.
URAAA!!!
Sorry but I have to challenge you.
This is not a poor example… it an exact example of the absolute gutter representation of the SNP. This is a former First Minister.
The biggest immigrant population in Scotland is white English,
nearly 500,000,mostly in Edinburgh,East Lothian and Fife coast,
it`s like Spain`s Benidorm and the Costas when the sun shines.
Sure. The white English come in for a lot of stick on here, some of it well deserved too.
Defo worth pointing out though, that they don’t view your missus as a third-class human being (because she’s not a man, nor a true believer), they won’t treat your daughter as a sex toy, and they won’t try to kill you if you level an insult against somebody who’s been dead for 1400 years, or damage a copy of their sky fairy book.
And to those of us Scots not consumed by white-hot, virulent, all consuming hatred of the English, these details count.
They count a hell of a lot in fact.
But I don’t want to be dogmatic. The very first time some white English boy runs into a Scottish airport strapped into a home made bomb, or takes a machete to some Scottish kids in their dance class, I promise to review my stance on this.
On the subject of religious articles
Seeing that the UN is going to be calling up the king any day now to free Scotland
Will I expect a few years in jail if I desecrate the holy DVD
aka
Braveheart (directors cut)
link to legalfeminist.org.uk
Just came across an old paperback in a box of books in the loft.
Following is an extract from ‘OUR THREE NATIONS: WALES, SCOTLAND, ENGLAND’ (published 1956):
THE RIGHT OF WITHDRAWAL
« What the people of Scotland are re-asserting is that the right of self-government can now be legitimately resumed since the Treaty of Union has failed in its safeguards for Scottish interests and in its intention to create a new nation which would be neither England nor Scotland.
« What the Treaty tried to do was, as we can now so clearly see, quite impossible. The Scottish and English peoples had developed too long on their own different lines for these differences to be resolved and a new common line of development adopted.
« They either had to continue as different nations and different States, each with its own great role to play, or one of them had to be absorbed into the other, giving up its history, its institutions, its national consciousness and national conscience and its own national interests.
« There is reason to believe that this was realised by the English statesmen even when they were putting the Treaty of Union through their own Parliament, Certainly, from the day the Union was a legal entity, they proceeded on the basis that the United Kingdom was merely England grown greater, with all that was England continuing and all that was Scotland destroyed.
« That is, of course, exactly the kind of thinking which numbers all the monarchs of the United Kingdom in the English sequence – the thinking which made the present Queen, Elizabeth II, although the first or English Elizabeth was an English Queen only. It is characteristic of English isolationism that the rulers of England could not understand why the Scots refused to have the insulting “II” used in Scotland.
« We therefore quote in full the “Aim of the National Party” from the policy of the Party adopted in 1946:
« “The People of Scotland, as members of one of the oldest nations in Europe, are the inheritors, bearers and transmitters of a historic tradition of liberty. They have in common with the people of all other nations an inherent right to determine their own destiny in accordance with the principles of justice accepted by the social conscience of mankind.
« The aim of the Scottish National Party is therefore Self-Government for Scotland – the restoration of Scottish National Sovereignty by the establishment of a democratic Scottish Government, whose authority shall be limited only by such agreements as will be freely entered into with other nations in order to further international co-operation and world peace.” »
Why did Alex Salmond never use one of these magic spells to free Scotland?
Surely using a simple incantation is far simpler then risking the English filth blocking a vote
We have 2 possibilities
The first is
Alex Salmond was actually and English agent which shows that there isn’t a single person we can trust to free Scotland from the far right English invaders
The second is
Magic incantations don’t work
I’d love to know your thoughts
Utter rubbish Yoon Scum.
You’ll be telling us the Pope is a Protestant next.
So tell me if John Swinney can stand up in Holyrood first thing monday morning
Speak the magic incantation from the declaration of Arbroath
And Scotland is a free country
YES
or
No
I’d be surprised to learn there’s anybody much in Hollyrood first thing of a Monday morning – maybe security staff and some tourists.
I’d expect Scotland’s finest minds don’t start straggling in much before lunchtime. They’ll have been enjoying their weekend retreats, far away from the unwashed who pay their wages, and I’m not seeing it likely they’ll want to travel to “work” on their own time.
TBQFH, If I enjoyed the luxury of voting myself my own pay, perks, working hours and holidays, I’d perhaps behave like that too
What’s the point of a trough filled to the brim with gravy if you can’t immerse yourself in it?
@willie
It’s quite possible that The Pope, during his 10 years in Peru immersed in the local, indigenous communities, occasionally had to shit in the woods.
I expect future historians will eventually clarify this for us.
Aye Fearghas, and it is due to the continued failure and deceit of our pseudo ‘nationalist’ politicians that Liberation Scotland has necessarily been created by the people to serve as the “bearers and transmitters of a historic tradition of liberty.”:
link to liberation.scot
After Scotland leaves the union
How do you stop Britnats like myself who where born in Scotland from interfering with Scotland becoming the greatest nation on earth?
“international co-operation and world peace”
I can see why that was safely stowed away in your loft.
Nobody can talk like that these days with a straight face. And if they try to, they’ll be laughed to scorn.
Human nature being what it is, our ability to sustain co-operation and peace is inversely proportional to our numbers. Back in 1956, there was a mere 2.8 billion of us rattling around.
Today it’s somewhere the wrong side of 8 billion, and it’s expected we’re gonna get an additional 1.5 billion by 2050.
Anybody expecting co-operation and peace with that tsunami coming down the road, especially when you factor in the predicted climate apocalypse, which is going to have hundreds of millions of them on the move, needs somebody to smack them around the face with the Reality Bat.
It’s a glorious day today, and I think most of Scotland is going to enjoy wall to wall sunshine. I intend to make the most of it, because in the words of the song, slightly modified, the reality is that things can only get worse.
Y’all have fun, y’hear!
“Certainly, from the day the Union was a legal entity, they proceeded on the basis that the United Kingdom was merely England grown greater, with all that was England continuing and all that was Scotland destroyed.”-Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh
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Fheargais,
I think even BEFORE it was a legal entity that was the direction of travel.
During the passage of the Act of Union in the English parliament of 1706, an MP shouted:
“We have Scotland on the rack now!”
To which the MP for Andover, Mr Speaker, Smith, did NOT reply “Order, Order!”
Instead he commented, “We have catch’d Scotland and will bind her fast.”
After indy
Which is ANY DAY NOW
Can the northeast of Scotland vote to leave Scotland
It’s our oil, water, wind and whiskey
@YS
If I have my way, post Indy …
Any Scot writing “whiskey” will have the correct spelling tattooed on his forehead.
And then on his cheeks. All four of them.
It’s “whisky” FFS.
“Certainly, from the day the Union was a legal entity, they proceeded on the basis that the United Kingdom was merely England grown greater, with all that was England continuing and all that was Scotland destroyed.”-Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh
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Fheargais,
I think even BEFORE it was a legal entity that was the direction of travel.
During the passage of the Act of Union in the English parliament of 1706, an MP shouted:
“We have Scotland on the rack now!”
To which the MP for Andover, Mr Speaker, Smith, did NOT reply “Order, Order!”
Instead he commented,
“We have catch’d Scotland and will bind her fast.”
Scotland does not need to leave the union, England did it for us and has deviated from the union repeatedly.
Fearghas, just made one of those many points, Scotland has never had a monarch Liz 11.
Would it be a fair union if Scotland has just as many MPs as the ENGLISH?
England also deviated and ended the treaty of Union in 1801 / 1802.
Some unionist minded people still think the whole Treaty of Union still exists and is extant therefore Scotland or the people of Scotland must ask England for permission to exit.
Doh.
Okay I accept that Scotland has been CRUSHED BY THE EVIL ENGLISH COLONISERS FOR 300 YEARS
Why have the UN never stepped in and killed off us britnats?
Why did Alex Salmond never raise it with the UN?
Why did Alex Salmond never stand up in Westminster and declare the union is over?
Have ALL out politicians for the past 300 years been under control of the filthy English?
The implication of Scotland having to ask the Westminster parliament of Great Britain if the can leave is hilarious.
Scotland is not and never has held or ever entered into a treaty of union with the Westminster parliament of Great Britain.
So by implication
Alex Salmond was an English stooge
As he never said we where independent
Some unionist are not very bright if they have thought that Scotlands 1707 parliament had entered into a treaty of union with and the Anglo- Irish Westminster parliament of Great Britain
Should Scotland declare war against the English to free yourselves?
and
Should britnat scum like me be in prison camps as we are enemy agents?
Isn’t it great to read the 300 year old stuff again and again and again? Remember ‘it’s jist no fair’really strikes a chord with ALL Scots. Maybe not!
I don’t know if these moon howlers bang on about the Braveheart pish in the hope it will change minds
or
Because they are quite bigoted due to following a certain football club and that is all they can think about
but either way
It does lead me to the conclusion they aren’t overly bright
As I am far more concerned about next years education results then some bollocks that happen 30 years ago let alone 300 years ago
NEWSFLASH
Braveheart is a work of fiction
NEWSFLASH So is the treaty of according to Chas, .you better get him on the same page
Thats what I like about the unionist idea and perception of the Treaty of union, that in one breath they state the treaty of union is 300 year old guff that no one cares about.
But also state that its real, Scotland cant just leave, it has to ask to leave the 300 year old guff cos people do believe, especially “unionists ” in that guff.
Okay the union doesn’t exist
You’re free
What’s the problem?
Now you see it, now you don’t,
Now you believe it, now you don’t.
Lets do the hokey cokey
Newsflash.
The treaty of union is a old guff work of fiction now according to Chas,
Sorry yoon Scum, I am going to pick Chas’s version, he sounds more authentic cos and he has been the most persistent in his view for a number of years now.
Tell the britnat lick spittle
Are you deeply concerned about what us English bastards did to scotland 300 years ago?
Its a lovely sunday, cheer up.
Since we all believe in democracy and the self determination of peoples under the UN charter :
– should the midlands of england be allowed to secede from the UK and become an independent caliphate?
– and/or join with other nations, e.g. india/pakistan/bangladesh
if Bradford went to the Supreme Court looking for a section 30 to have a referendum, should it be allowed?
Will the mayors of these statelets become heads of state?
I think we all believe in democracy and so why should minorities of racist white english in these areas frustrate the democratic will of the people?
link to ons.gov.uk
they might not quite have the numbers yet, but there will be another 10M by 2030 and their birthrates are superior, it is only right that this should happen.
white english will be allowed to live in these new countries, but they will have to pay the jizyah, naturally.
If not full independence, then semi autonomy, with dual systems for the courts, schools and multilingualism.
– seems fair to me and anything else would just be racist.
Now that england has gone the full-enoch, embracing the far right tism of national faragism, the creation of ethnic safe spaces and zones of peace, is the only way forward.
the northeast of Scotland should leave an independent scotland
How many oil rigs do you have in the central belt?
Has anyone reported this as a Hate Crime yet?