Ever wonder why you never see a Tory in public these days without a tabard and hard hat on? It’s to hide their scaly, pointed heads, the space lizard b*stards.
It’s not our oil they’re after, it’s our SOULS.
Strange reading the response comments on the The Guardian link by Kalmar @10.39.
They are for the most part anti-Tory government yet when there is a Guardian article regarding the Scottish Independence Referendum the majority of the response comments are all pro-Tory government.
How do you get the gig (probably about £2k a day plus expenses) to help them “redesign” themselves? I’m sure I could help them for less (or more – if that’s more attractive from a you-get-what-you-pay-for perspective).
It might take me all of a week’s worth of PowerPoint slidery and frequent Workshops in a 5 star location to develop a suitably slimy, sorry, splendid image.
Are they REALLY THAT thick, and do they believe that the great unwashed are so unimaginably gullible?
@balgayboy
It is quite difficult to wrap your head around – I think that the Guardian and their typical reader (and I do count myself among them) just haven’t caught on yet that *Labour* is now pro-tory government on increasingly important issues.
Cognitive dissonance. I reckon they’ll catch on soon enough though.
We see it more clearly from here, as the leaders of red and blue parties are literally reading from the same hymn sheet to do Scotland down and retain ownership.
OT but I wondered that nobody has commented on something that happened on Saturday’s Lottery programme ‘Who Dares Wins’.
Contestants were asked to name as many famous historical figures from history, including historians, authors, poets etc, from the the BBC’s A to Z list, containing 371 names.
Amazingly Robert Burns author of the most famous song on the planet is not on the list!
I noticed you mentioned some French anti virus software in an earlier thread, could you possibly remind me of the details please, also do you know if it runs on android?
Well we all know what is required to make sure they don’t do this again, vote NO…. just kidding, although that would probably do the job too, Vote yes and make sure 🙂
Certainly seem to be a party in transition. Especially looking at the change of St George cross angle on that union jack. Tempted to complete the transition by moving the smaller red stripes in photoshop to a more orthogonal position.
The wordage on the podium suggests a couple of easy tweaks as well, but we mustn’t descend to Scotsmanage level.
Next the Labour party will be saying that they’re the party of the workers.
The daily express (Scottish sub branch) is going to town today on a Nobel prize economist, Paul Krugman, who is criticising the SNP.
Of course they’ve spun it around in their comments section to be damning.
“who said the independence movement’s monetary position seemed “deeply muddle-headed” and had him worried.”
Of course the express had steadfastly refuse to quote the Nobel prize economist Joseph Stiglitz who said that Scotland has been subsidising the rUK for decades.
David McCann:
… and I’ll bet Alain Baxter was not on the list either as they are still claiming Jenny Jones is the first GB winter athlete to win a medal on snow. Hope AB has stopped paying his licence fee. link to bbc.co.uk
Liked this quote from a poster on that guardian piece. . “It’s called doublethink
“To know and to not know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy is impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy. To forget, whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself!” Must’ve found it in the Better Together manual.
When you see racist, risible remarks get up-votes, the need to get ‘torn intae they bastards’ comes to the fore.
It really is like playing space invaders, they just keep coming, with the same old half truths and misconceptions from a few and trolling lies from the many.
My high score was at the weekend when I shot down an American right wing troll who was pretending to be a Scot threatening to leave on independence.
balgayboy: By “we” I mean Wings readers. We can see through the propaganda.
In the rest of the UK where independence isn’t the first story you might look at, you could be forgiven for thinking that Labour is still the anti-establishment voice and some sort of opposition. Which is I think why the Guardian go along with their anti-independence establishment viewpoint.
But the way they are debating this issue, in Scotland at least, has really exposed their true colours I think.
They want everybody to be workers, not necessarily paid workers, but they don’t want any slackers who are pretending to be unable to work for some tedious, insignificant reason like terminal illness or whatever.
When they make the Hollywood movie of the BetterTogether campaign it may aswell be Mars attacks or “The greatest pack of lies, fear and deceit ever told” or “BetterTogether Braveheart 2”, Piers Morgan IS David Cameron, Helen Mirren is Alistair Darling, Al Pacino is George Osborne,Janette Krankie is Jojo Lamont and Oscar nominate Blair McDougall IS himself. In cinemas 19th Sept.
“George Orwell coined the word doublethink in his dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984); doublethink is part of newspeak. In the novel, its origin within the typical citizen is unclear; while it could be partly a product of Big Brother’s formal brainwashing programs,[2] the novel explicitly shows people learning Doublethink and newspeak due to peer pressure and a desire to “fit in”, or gain status within the Party — to be seen as a loyal Party Member. In the novel, for someone to even recognize–let alone mention–any contradiction within the context of the Party line was akin to blasphemy, and could subject that someone to possible disciplinary action and to the instant social disapproval of fellow Party Members.”
Regarding that Grauniad article – I’m amazed at how much Grant Shapps looks like the unlikeable one out of Mitchell & Webb. Well, the more unlikeable one. You knew what I meant.
Oh look, yet another plan to divide the working class from the non-working poor.
“That’s right, ‘Claire Cleaner’, ‘Doug Driver’, ‘Clive Carer’ and ‘Sandra Shop-Assistant’, your real enemies are ‘Scumbag Scrounger’ and ‘Lazy Layabout’. They are the ones to blame for the gap between your hard-earned wages and your living expenses. It’s got nothing at all to do with the structures of corporate capitalism or the parasitic effects of commodity speculation or financial deregulation. Look the other way! Kick downwards. There’s a good little worker.”
It is called adwcleaner, by a group called xplode.
It is free (although you can donate).
Please note, as with all these anti malware programs, because of the complexities involved, an ordinary end user, like me, can only go by their own experience as to how effective it is.
If there was one which really found everything and eliminated it, I think we would all know about it.
As it is, we are all bound to have some infection however many we install and run, and installing several is apparently not a good idea because they can themselves interact in a way detrimental to the running of your system.
So I use AVAST (paid for) as my resident protector.
But adwcleaner is a one-shot program that doesn’t reside as an ongoing protection, so doesn’t take system resource or conflict with AVAST during normal operations.
It, works by finding anything it doesn’t recognise as ligit. You can uncheck anything it finds that you do not want removed. This last bit takes some knowledge which many of us will not really have.
So there is a potential danger that something is removed which stops some app you want.
You should always make sure you are happy with your backup status before using it.
Having said that, so far, I have never found it removing something which stopped anything l didn’t want it to and I have never unticked anything.
AVAST I think, is quite good and it doesn’t seem to be as intrusive in terms of system resource and interference as some of the other virus protectors I have used in the past.
When I have run adwcleaner, usually after doing a full scan on AVAST first, it sometimes finds things AVAST didn’t or remnants of malware that AVAST ‘removed’ incompletely.
That is about all I know about it.
Oh except to say, you are better getting it straight from the changelog website direct. CNET and other ‘tech’ sites used to do ‘clean’ downloads, but nowadays they all have downloaders which themselves include the installation of unwanted software, like toolbars etc. (although there is usually an opt out for these somewhere along the installation process)
As far as I can tell, adwcleaner, downloaded directly from changelog doesn’t have any unwanted baggage, although it is virtually impossible to be sure.
If any of the above sounds like I know what I am talking about, forget it, I am just a hapless end user like everyone else just trying to do what seems like a good idea but without any real malware techie knowledge.
So, please, anyone tempted to try it out, bear that in mind.
All I can say is it hasn’t screwed up my system and it seems to find things AVAST doesn’t.
It also seemed to help access to WOS but that is possibly, probably even, entirely coincidental.
More vote no grot from fiction writer/foreign correspondent here link to archive.is A lot of these BetterTogether spin docs are wannabe/failed writers.
I have been lovebombing the today’s Telegraph Alex Salmond warned article.
jeez, these frothies really don’t like guerrilla tactics. It is so easy to wind them up. If I try a bit harder I might get them to invade the Sudetenland some time soon.
I sympathise BTP. I’ve just had my first comment blocked by ‘The Courier’ after several months of posting there. It was an innocuous piece: No insults, no unsubstantiated claims. It was simply an attempt to rebut the effort of an aggressive unionist with a Salmond fixation.
That particular website is getting more authoritarian with every passing day.
“I don’t know how you have the patience and perseverance for the torygraph – I’d blow a gasket! I doff my hat Sir!”
Snap, I dip in and out occasionally but I truly lost the will to live going on there every day I went on the other day and got 45 email alerts to responses made re a comment I made, needless to say they were all anti independence
this comment was in response to a comment I made on the countries who have gained independence from the UK in the last 60 odd years,
“But most have plummeted the depths of barbarism.”
I’m too old for this I just don’t have the patience,
respect Conan.
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Ach jings, heres me hoping for a wee Benny Hill clip
Frankly unbelievable scenes.
link to theguardian.com
Ever wonder why you never see a Tory in public these days without a tabard and hard hat on? It’s to hide their scaly, pointed heads, the space lizard b*stards.
It’s not our oil they’re after, it’s our SOULS.
I’ve got to be honest Stu, I’m not 100% convinced this footage is genuine.
There aren’t enough overpaid arseholes in needlessly big 4x4s for it to be Aberdeen.
They’ll do anything to curb immigration…
Conservative Workers Party?
Fking hell, that’s double-think, double-speak Eric Arthur Blair spinning 360’s in his workers party crypt. JEEESUS FEKKIN H, fit next?
@Kalmar
You don’t happen to know David Icke by any chance? 😉
Doug, there is also no guffawing in a pseudo establishment accent about little Scotchland
Strange reading the response comments on the The Guardian link by Kalmar @10.39.
They are for the most part anti-Tory government yet when there is a Guardian article regarding the Scottish Independence Referendum the majority of the response comments are all pro-Tory government.
Bizarre!
Doug, that’s a bit harsh min. You sound slightly envious there about the good folks of the North east 😉
So Labour are now “one nation” tories and the tories are the “workers’ party”
I expect it was the black kitten’s fault….
Kalmar 10:39
How do you get the gig (probably about £2k a day plus expenses) to help them “redesign” themselves? I’m sure I could help them for less (or more – if that’s more attractive from a you-get-what-you-pay-for perspective).
It might take me all of a week’s worth of PowerPoint slidery and frequent Workshops in a 5 star location to develop a suitably slimy, sorry, splendid image.
Are they REALLY THAT thick, and do they believe that the great unwashed are so unimaginably gullible?
Answers on an unstamped postcard to No 10.
With friends like these …
Have you found out anymore about why they came?
Brill!
Thought you might have went for a clip from Ghostbusters in tribute to the late Harold Ramis there!
For the clip above, would we have Alex “Slim” Salmond singing “The Rowan Tree” to blow their fragile little minds?
I’ve put a link to this on the Torygraph.
Lights blue touchpaper…
Ach! they’ve only toned down the behaviour on the Esplanade because of those visiting Tory wimps.
@balgayboy
It is quite difficult to wrap your head around – I think that the Guardian and their typical reader (and I do count myself among them) just haven’t caught on yet that *Labour* is now pro-tory government on increasingly important issues.
Cognitive dissonance. I reckon they’ll catch on soon enough though.
We see it more clearly from here, as the leaders of red and blue parties are literally reading from the same hymn sheet to do Scotland down and retain ownership.
@Conan
I don’t know how you have the patience and perseverance for the torygraph – I’d blow a gasket! I doff my hat Sir!
OT but I wondered that nobody has commented on something that happened on Saturday’s Lottery programme ‘Who Dares Wins’.
Contestants were asked to name as many famous historical figures from history, including historians, authors, poets etc, from the the BBC’s A to Z list, containing 371 names.
Amazingly Robert Burns author of the most famous song on the planet is not on the list!
Tells you something about the BBC.
Watch it from 28 minutes in.
link to bbc.co.uk
@chicmac
I noticed you mentioned some French anti virus software in an earlier thread, could you possibly remind me of the details please, also do you know if it runs on android?
Much obliged in advance.
Ah! Reinventing themselves, all starting to make sense.
Is that why the Tories have been erasing all past speeches from websites?
I hear they’re going to demand lower “benefits” for all MP’s to empathise with the workers, and move into housing with appropriate sized rooms! NOT…
Well we all know what is required to make sure they don’t do this again, vote NO…. just kidding, although that would probably do the job too, Vote yes and make sure 🙂
@Kalmar
“Frankly unbelievable scenes.
link to theguardian.com”
Certainly seem to be a party in transition. Especially looking at the change of St George cross angle on that union jack. Tempted to complete the transition by moving the smaller red stripes in photoshop to a more orthogonal position.
The wordage on the podium suggests a couple of easy tweaks as well, but we mustn’t descend to Scotsmanage level.
@Kalmar.
Next the Labour party will be saying that they’re the party of the workers.
The daily express (Scottish sub branch) is going to town today on a Nobel prize economist, Paul Krugman, who is criticising the SNP.
Of course they’ve spun it around in their comments section to be damning.
“who said the independence movement’s monetary position seemed “deeply muddle-headed” and had him worried.”
Of course the express had steadfastly refuse to quote the Nobel prize economist Joseph Stiglitz who said that Scotland has been subsidising the rUK for decades.
link to archive.is
brill 2
The wee lad carrying the cash register across the road, was that Beaker?
David McCann:
… and I’ll bet Alain Baxter was not on the list either as they are still claiming Jenny Jones is the first GB winter athlete to win a medal on snow. Hope AB has stopped paying his licence fee.
link to bbc.co.uk
@Kalmar 11.29:
Thanks but, “We see it more clearly from here”
Can you please explain that statement?
Liked this quote from a poster on that guardian piece. . “It’s called doublethink
“To know and to not know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy is impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy. To forget, whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself!” Must’ve found it in the Better Together manual.
Hah!
Everything right down to the choice of font gives me the creeps in that picture.
Weedeochandorris
crikey that quote, is it by someone who studied philosophy?
Double crossing springs to mind,
I was expecting it to be empty of content … just like the real thing …
@ X_Sticks
When you see racist, risible remarks get up-votes, the need to get ‘torn intae they bastards’ comes to the fore.
It really is like playing space invaders, they just keep coming, with the same old half truths and misconceptions from a few and trolling lies from the many.
My high score was at the weekend when I shot down an American right wing troll who was pretending to be a Scot threatening to leave on independence.
balgayboy: By “we” I mean Wings readers. We can see through the propaganda.
In the rest of the UK where independence isn’t the first story you might look at, you could be forgiven for thinking that Labour is still the anti-establishment voice and some sort of opposition. Which is I think why the Guardian go along with their anti-independence establishment viewpoint.
But the way they are debating this issue, in Scotland at least, has really exposed their true colours I think.
I am no history expert, but when was the last time the full cabinet came to Scotland.
The timing of this visit is clearly just a cynical attempt by David Cameron to increase the Yes vote ahead of the referendum.
Kalmar @ 12.06:
Good stuff and thank you for your clarification.
Tory rebranding as the Workers Party makes sense!
They want everybody to be workers, not necessarily paid workers, but they don’t want any slackers who are pretending to be unable to work for some tedious, insignificant reason like terminal illness or whatever.
When they make the Hollywood movie of the BetterTogether campaign it may aswell be Mars attacks or “The greatest pack of lies, fear and deceit ever told” or “BetterTogether Braveheart 2”, Piers Morgan IS David Cameron, Helen Mirren is Alistair Darling, Al Pacino is George Osborne,Janette Krankie is Jojo Lamont and Oscar nominate Blair McDougall IS himself. In cinemas 19th Sept.
Weedeochandorris and Hetty: it’s from 1984 by George Orwell. Well worth a read.
Hetty, it’s from Orwell’s 1984.
By a commentator on the Guardian page regarding the Conservative rebranding:
“The only link to working that I can think of is that they’re a bunch of tools.”
Hi Hetty, just checked on Wiki and it says this –
“George Orwell coined the word doublethink in his dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984); doublethink is part of newspeak. In the novel, its origin within the typical citizen is unclear; while it could be partly a product of Big Brother’s formal brainwashing programs,[2] the novel explicitly shows people learning Doublethink and newspeak due to peer pressure and a desire to “fit in”, or gain status within the Party — to be seen as a loyal Party Member. In the novel, for someone to even recognize–let alone mention–any contradiction within the context of the Party line was akin to blasphemy, and could subject that someone to possible disciplinary action and to the instant social disapproval of fellow Party Members.”
So, there you go “doublethink” in a nutshell.
Regarding that Grauniad article – I’m amazed at how much Grant Shapps looks like the unlikeable one out of Mitchell & Webb. Well, the more unlikeable one. You knew what I meant.
Reset page b
Oh look, yet another plan to divide the working class from the non-working poor.
“That’s right, ‘Claire Cleaner’, ‘Doug Driver’, ‘Clive Carer’ and ‘Sandra Shop-Assistant’, your real enemies are ‘Scumbag Scrounger’ and ‘Lazy Layabout’. They are the ones to blame for the gap between your hard-earned wages and your living expenses. It’s got nothing at all to do with the structures of corporate capitalism or the parasitic effects of commodity speculation or financial deregulation. Look the other way! Kick downwards. There’s a good little worker.”
Indy Scot
September 7th 1921.
Good article by George Kerevan here.
link to scot-buzz.co.uk
…With ‘friends’ like these who needs – etc..
squareHaggis
It is called adwcleaner, by a group called xplode.
It is free (although you can donate).
Please note, as with all these anti malware programs, because of the complexities involved, an ordinary end user, like me, can only go by their own experience as to how effective it is.
If there was one which really found everything and eliminated it, I think we would all know about it.
As it is, we are all bound to have some infection however many we install and run, and installing several is apparently not a good idea because they can themselves interact in a way detrimental to the running of your system.
So I use AVAST (paid for) as my resident protector.
But adwcleaner is a one-shot program that doesn’t reside as an ongoing protection, so doesn’t take system resource or conflict with AVAST during normal operations.
It, works by finding anything it doesn’t recognise as ligit. You can uncheck anything it finds that you do not want removed. This last bit takes some knowledge which many of us will not really have.
So there is a potential danger that something is removed which stops some app you want.
You should always make sure you are happy with your backup status before using it.
Having said that, so far, I have never found it removing something which stopped anything l didn’t want it to and I have never unticked anything.
AVAST I think, is quite good and it doesn’t seem to be as intrusive in terms of system resource and interference as some of the other virus protectors I have used in the past.
When I have run adwcleaner, usually after doing a full scan on AVAST first, it sometimes finds things AVAST didn’t or remnants of malware that AVAST ‘removed’ incompletely.
That is about all I know about it.
Oh except to say, you are better getting it straight from the changelog website direct. CNET and other ‘tech’ sites used to do ‘clean’ downloads, but nowadays they all have downloaders which themselves include the installation of unwanted software, like toolbars etc. (although there is usually an opt out for these somewhere along the installation process)
As far as I can tell, adwcleaner, downloaded directly from changelog doesn’t have any unwanted baggage, although it is virtually impossible to be sure.
Here is the link
link to general-changelog-team.fr
If any of the above sounds like I know what I am talking about, forget it, I am just a hapless end user like everyone else just trying to do what seems like a good idea but without any real malware techie knowledge.
So, please, anyone tempted to try it out, bear that in mind.
All I can say is it hasn’t screwed up my system and it seems to find things AVAST doesn’t.
It also seemed to help access to WOS but that is possibly, probably even, entirely coincidental.
More vote no grot from fiction writer/foreign correspondent here link to archive.is A lot of these BetterTogether spin docs are wannabe/failed writers.
Workers’ Party – like in they always seek to “work a flanker”?
Like as they stated yesterday the “UK’s broad shoulders and deep pockets”, which really means broad sloping shoulders and deep poacher’s pockets?
PS. Forgot to add, I don’t know if it runs on android.
@chicmac 1137
I’d leave it as it is, it looks good enough as a symbol for a broken Britain
handclapping
Yeah, we are not in the business of out-Godwinning the North Brit.
But there is an either or tweak on the podium text which is very tempting. If you get my drift.
PS especially considering the hand gesture depicted.
I have found a use for the Tory Cabinet.
link to tinyurl.com
I have been lovebombing the today’s Telegraph Alex Salmond warned article.
jeez, these frothies really don’t like guerrilla tactics. It is so easy to wind them up. If I try a bit harder I might get them to invade the Sudetenland some time soon.
Ach Rev, not a bad clip but I’d have preferred something referencing the Borg. Still, plenty of time to get one in yet.
I am now pre moderated on the Telegraph web site.
Oh dear.
@Jimt
“Are they REALLY THAT thick, and do they believe that the great unwashed are so unimaginably gullible?”
You have been in receipt of BT propaganda and you need to ask that question?
Bugger (the Panda) wrote,
I am now pre moderated on the Telegraph web site
I sympathise BTP. I’ve just had my first comment blocked by ‘The Courier’ after several months of posting there. It was an innocuous piece: No insults, no unsubstantiated claims. It was simply an attempt to rebut the effort of an aggressive unionist with a Salmond fixation.
That particular website is getting more authoritarian with every passing day.
Look out, there’s a monster coming…
“I don’t know how you have the patience and perseverance for the torygraph – I’d blow a gasket! I doff my hat Sir!”
Snap, I dip in and out occasionally but I truly lost the will to live going on there every day I went on the other day and got 45 email alerts to responses made re a comment I made, needless to say they were all anti independence
this comment was in response to a comment I made on the countries who have gained independence from the UK in the last 60 odd years,
“But most have plummeted the depths of barbarism.”
I’m too old for this I just don’t have the patience,
respect Conan.
Ha ha ha…you really couldn’t invent the irony of YouTube plugging a David Bowie song before we can watch the clip…Priceless!!