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Positive-case-for-the-Union update #8

Posted on January 17, 2012 by

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An alert viewer drew our attention to the latest call to arms, published in Tory Hoose and penned by Tom Elliott, leader of the Ulster Unionist Party.

"It is absolutely essential that the pro-Union forces articulate a convincing and positive case for the continuation of the Union in the 21st Century. Those of us who wish to see Scotland and its people remain as fellow citizens in a United Kingdom must both articulate the benefits which the Union has brought to Scotland and provide a positive vision for the future continuation of the Union."

To be honest we could barely be bothered building our hopes up this time, and sure enough out came the familiar tune. An independent Scotland would be bankrupt in a matter of days, just like the Republic of Ireland (hmm, no agenda there, we're sure), and Greece and Portugal and Iceland. The UK has saved us from economic disaster – um, you might want to take a look at the books, Tom – and "the choice facing the people of Scotland may be between a broke but independent Scotland or a comparatively prosperous Scotland still within the Union".

If that's the "convincing and positive case", we sure as heck wouldn't like to meet Mr Elliott when he's down in the dumps.
 

TIME ELAPSED: 31 years, 11 months
CONFIRMED SIGHTINGS OF POSITIVE CASE FOR UNION TO DATE: 0

 

7 to “Positive-case-for-the-Union update #8”

  1. peter says:

    well, i was all set to vote yes to independence, but now that the ulster unionists' are imploring me to stay with the union…………………

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  2. Ross says:

    Ex Tory MP, Peter Duncan,  has a mentioed a positive case for the union – it means, er, Scotland will become 'less significant' on a global level. 
    link to conservativehome.blogs.com
    Sounds like a positive case for independence, if you ask me.

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  3. Tearlach says:

    Stu – This wee video monologue demonstrates why there can never be a positive case for the Union.link to youtube.com

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  4. Morag says:

    Ex Tory MP, Peter Duncan,  has a mentioed a positive case for the union – it means, er, Scotland will become 'less significant' on a global level.

     
    The rest of that post is remarkably sensible for a Tory though.  If we had to preserve one Tory MP, he might have been better than that rat Mundell.

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  5. Ross says:

    Tearlach, weird to see Alan Biset's face pop up round these parts!

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  6. Morag says:

    I think it reads better than it sounds there, but then that's maybe just me.  It's a great clip for the YouTube generation.

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  7. TYRAN says:

    – "Scottish Nationalists will attempt to pull at the heart-strings by playing on 19th Century romantic style notion of nationalism"
    – "Union with England in 1707 saw…"
    Then he pull at the heart-strings by playing on 18th Century romantic style notion of unionism, which still exits today.

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