Wings Over Scotland

Nice work. If this goes on much longer you’re going to have a covid cartoon collection that’ll fit a book!

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Excellent drawing as always Chris. Thank you.

Sadly HOPE seems in short supply this year.

On Chris Cairns “Covid Road” I actually agree with Wokeist Cabal Leader Sturgeon. Close ALL the pubs as it is clear to the dimmest person, drunk folk forget to socially distance.

Naw hope with Covid.

Naw hope with getting rid of the Woke 5th column.

Naw hope for getting rid of of Mr and Mrs Sturgeon.

Naw hope of Scottish Independence.

Naw hope of free speech after the Hate Crime Act gives the Wokeists carte blanche to get sites line Wings Over Scotland + Craig Murray closed.

NAW HOPE.

Well mibees Alex Salmond will keep is Bonnie Dundee promise…

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How on earth can we go from many thousands of decent SNP folk in a huge hall on 28th March 2015 with a splendid but prophetically dissonant speech by Stuart Hosie and then the incredibly popular and impressive, McOscar winning PERFORMANCE from Nicola Sturgeon…

link to m.youtube.com

To this week’s rattled rant from Le Sturgeon with her body language, composure and bearing all over the place.

The ONLY reasons Sturgeon McWokeists are at 55% is because Richard Leopard and Rapeclause Ruth plus wee Willie Skidmark are so fucking awful.

And Sturgeon’s regular television show with the increase to 55% that so much tv exposure gets you…

NiCovid Sturgeon

Repleat with her catchphrase:

Frank get the door…

Jane Godley would make a better First Minister than the political liar we have now…

link to m.youtube.com

Much as I’m a fan Chris, couldn’t we have had a toon about The Persistent Trough?

Persistent cough, should the name not be FU before persistent

As this failed policy persists.
link to thenational.scot
The simple recourse is mockery.
I shall not be complying! so come and get me!
Btw I have a wide circle of relations and friends, no deaths, no coughs, no fever…..sick, of course, of this scientifically ignorant Stalinism, but that is a different affliction. .

We all know Bill Gates is ‘generous’, BBC, Guardian and Telegraph among his recipients.
But this item from the past suggests something closer to Scotland’s centre of power.
link to thenational.scot
What conclusions might one draw?
Just good friends?
Geeza job Bill?

This made me smile. Looks like a few places I am familiar ! Hopefully we can all return to such establishments sooner rather than later.

MaggieC says:
10 October, 2020 at 7:58 am

The only difference nowadays compared to the 1980’s is back then the “ POLIS “ were the ones inside the the pub for the lock- in..

I worked in my maw’s shoap when I was in my early 20s and saw things that made me regard the POLIS in a different light. If the sight of 2 x inebriated POLIS squaring-up to each other, and being separated by other POLIS, isn’t enough to entertain you then you ought to be in the audience at the Glasgow Empire. I have stories..

Great work, Chris!

She doesn’t know what she’s doing IMO. The lockdown won’t work because it’s so selective.

How many people will travel out of the central belt to get some entertainment?
Then what, they spread it north and south?

The test is unreliable, even the dentist said so.

I’ve seen people say, the hospitalty industry is where the majority of cases are, so restrict them. Others have pointed out, it’s because they have your details you can be traced.

No one takes your details on public transport or in the supermarkets, so no one can say for certain where is was caught or spread.

Presumably “The Persistent Cough” still has full ice buckets?

Liz@10.21.

The latest pile-on to hospitality seams very wrong to me too. Yet it’s not just Scotland.
Regards the policy of closures. Surely the simplest would have been to close at selected time of ALL Alki sales inc supermarkets. Leaving EVERY business options on continue to trade, nae effing aboot “am a cafe” crap.

For the areas less effected just now, it could be a different “NAE ALKI” close time. Simples!

Who in Gvt knows the KISS factor ?

News from a war zone you’ve probably never heard of.
link to globalresearch.ca
This is what leaders do when they get too big for the boots covering their feet of clay.

WILLIE 10:39
Joining the dots, not fantastical conspiracy theory stuff, actuality for many in the Peoples Republic of China and rumoured for introduction elsewhere in Asia.
TechTotalitarianism is here, now and coming to your home sometime, if allowed.

No disrespect to the artist – the drawing is superb.

However what are we laughing at here – the fact that a barman with kids to support will have no wages a week next Friday – are we laughing at that?

Are we laughing that this destruction of people’s livelihoods is being done on the basis of a test that is worthless as a diagnostic tool – are we laughing at that?

Are we laughing at the fact that well over a million women in the UK are currently unable to access a mammogram – are we laughing at that?

Are we laughing at the fact that the time taken to access cancer treatment has hugely increased – a death sentence for many – are we laughing at that?

Even the WHO says that poverty is the greatest factor in reducing life expectancy and we are currently seeing people being deliberately reduced to poverty on an enormous scale – is that a laugh?

If you are in favour of this you are effectively in favour of killing the many to save the few – hilarious.

Tories to reject bill guaranteeing current UK food standards.
This will open the door for poor standard meets and foul from
Far and near and see the end of many UK farms.

Vote takes place on Monday!

change the bloody record Chris

You’re beginning to sound like the Sites Lord Haw Haw.

WHO scores OWN GOAL.
link to off-guardian.org
Quick before they edit the VAR!

Here is a belter for you.
Belgium will invoke an ancient charter granting
access to English Fishing waters if there is a No Deal Brexit.

It seems that England’s Charles 11 granted 50 men
Of Bruges the right to fish there for Eternity!

The Daily Hail of course says UK waters but the charter
Was signed in 1666 when Scotland was an independent
Country so Scotland would want its stolen 6,000 miles of
Fishing waters returned and all our waters protected from
The Belgian fleet.

Let them fleece English waters to their charter’s content!

@ahundrddtheidiot,

Unlike you, the sites Lord Ha Ha Ha.

Hospitality is dead. We are weeks away from the Christmas season and even if lockdown doesn’t come restaurants and bars won’t get anywhere near the same volume of income as in previous years which will only prolong the inevitable.

Both the SG and WM need to act now – and not in 3 weeks time – to protect the businesses and the employees so that there is still something to rebuild. You can’t start a fire if all you have is ashes.

I see that the Scottish Police Federation are recommending that Scotland’s 17,000 police officers do not download and use the trace and track phone app.

On health and safety grounds of course you will understand.

Other, wiser minds might just conclude that the Police have concerns about the Orwellian trace and track surveillance aspect to the technology.

Roll out the National Entitlement card and all the other state surveillance toys.

From BBC Wales highlights how the “UK” government intend to “ utilise” the “ powergrab” :
“The UK government would never rule anything out on bypassing the Welsh government to build the M4 relief road the Tory Welsh Secretary has told BBC Wales.
The Welsh government said the relief road was “ a matter for Wales”. First Minister Mark Drakeford scrapped plans for a relief road last year , declaring “ a climate emergency “.
The recently published UK internal market bill will give the UK government power to spend on otherwise devolved areas such as infrastructure and economic development .The Tory Welsh Secretary Simon Hart speaking on a BBC Wales political program that if the UK government could “find a way “to build a relief road it would.
The Welsh government said a decision had already been made regarding the relief road. “ We remain committed to tackling congestion with solutions that recognise the unprecedented challenge of climate change as well as the financial pressures of ten years of austerity and capital budget cuts.
Asked how this could be funded Mr Hart said “ the shared prosperity fund” due to replace EU funding after the Brexit transition would be “ one option”.
However last week a cross party group of MP’s accused the UK government of making “ negligible progress” to replace EU funds in Wales after Brexit.
So there you have it folks . The reason for the Edinburgh “ Hub” . Funds from the EU previously devolved directly to Scotland Will in future be “ Controlled and spent” by our “ colonial masters” . No doubt there will be a huge influx of “ expat relocation jobs” currently being advertised in Whitehall ?

An alternative way of dealing with the virus has been done by South Korea:

link to washingtonpost.com

In a State without either a written Constitution or a Bill-of-Rights, wherein Parliament is sovereign and business interests are granted exceptionalism by all political parties and the MSM, who can seriously talk about a diminution of Rights in the context of C19 regulations? How can UK Subjects lose their Rights, when Subjects don’t have Rights?

There is no doubt that the unionist media is biased. Whether we like it or not we look through that prism and caught up in that bias. The result of that is that we have got blindsided with how the SNP has made a mess of the independence debate over the last 6 years.

We have to be careful that we are not caught up in this web that the unionist press has thrown over everything and cast a more critical eye over things even if that means putting Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP in an uncomfortable position. Our responsbility lies with the people of Scotland, not the SNP.

That doesn’t mean that we should be totally critical of the Scottish government’s handling of the pandameic. They have done a good job but there are other countries who are doing far better at dealing with it and as well as listening to health professionals from around the world, we need to be listening to politicians from countries who are more succesful at dealing with the virus.

I previously posted a link to how South Korea which is a bit old but that part of the world has had more historical experience of dealing with pandemics so why shouldn’t we be looking there for ways of dealing with this current one?

kapelmeister at 12:59 pm

“Bertie Armstrong, former Chief Exec of the Scottish Fishermen’s Federation gets an OBE. For services to what?”

Brexit?

*covid deaths that should be.

Meanwhile over in La La Land even the most Loyal Supporters are coming round to the realisation that the games up for the inhabitants of Bute House .
Now the usual suspects are concocting the excuses , e.g. , fed up with all the abuse she and her government are taking when the future of Scotland is their only concern , wouldn’t be surprised if she did retire on health grounds , getting no appreciation of working day and night to ensure a voice is heard in Westminster , the only thing missing is the mournful lament playing in the background accompanied by violin music .
It’s a truly pitiful bloody spectacle seemingly intelligent adults in total denial of what’s happening around them , all the missed opportunities overlooked and disregarded ,
So the easy way out is to blame the message and vilify the messenger and and anyone who agrees with the overwhelming evidence presented as supporting and being agents of the English state
Wakey fkn Waken the idea of fingers in the ears while loudly chanting La La La La might make you feel good but it isn’t going to solve the shit place we have been manoeuvred into by the Tory Government in England assisted by a usless and Toothless SNP administration that stood by while a new English outpost who everyone and their Dug knew was going to replace our parliament was being allowed to be constructed right in our nations capital , Did our spectacularly inept Dumb and bloody stupid SNP government believe it was just another office block ? .

Pac-Man,
Please explain to me and others how you can get the virus if you are shielding from the virus?

Beaker @ 10 October, 2020 at 12:47 pm

Health professionals can only advise of the health issues regarding the pandemic but politicians have to make the decisions about the wider implications it has on our society.

Acting on health advise isn’t enough. Politicians need to make decisions based on the impact that this health advise has on society in general.

Politicians just doesn’t have a remit to be responsible for health issues only and it makes no sense that when they are held to criticism that they say they are only acting under advice from health professionals.

The worldwide pandemic of Asian Flu in 1957 accounted for double the number of deaths attributed to covid-19.
Yet in the summer of 1957, with the virus having been prevalent since February of that year PM Harold MacMillan famously made a speech in which he told the British public “You have never had it so good”.

Whether MacMillan’s statement was justified or not, it shows he wasn’t trashing the economy just because there was a lot of flu about.

*Expect explanations to make sense

I bought a copy of FLYER, which is the UKs best selling aeronautical magazine.

I have been so inspired by Wingers to branch out, lose my fear, and just become confident in what I am doing.

Consequently I am building a Jumbo jet in my back garden courtesy of volume 5 of said magazine, and when it’s finished I invite you all to fly with me.

Insurance may be extra!!

James Che @ 1.09

Excellent observation. The ‘mindset’ is nae doot colonial.

@Ottomanboi

Very interesting I was also just reading that the WHO believes that roughly 10% of the worlds population has already been infected.

If a million are dead and seven hundred and sixty million people have had it, that would be an IFR of 0.13% if my maths is correct. It is looking more and more likely that this virus is no more lethal than the flu. Hardly the devastating pandemic it is often over-hyped as. I think our politicians have been watching too many movies like contagion.

kapelmeister says: 10 October, 2020 at 1:31 pm

The worldwide pandemic of Asian Flu in 1957 accounted for double the number of deaths attributed to covid-19.
Yet in the summer of 1957, with the virus having been prevalent since February of that year PM Harold MacMillan famously made a speech in which he told the British public “You have never had it so good”.

Whether MacMillan’s statement was justified or not, it shows he wasn’t trashing the economy just because there was a lot of flu about.

Politicians in the Fifties that you mentioned and ones in the Sixties with the ‘Hong Kong flu’ didn’t have to deal with social media with their conflicting advice and conspiracy theories.

Politicians now have to deal with a lot of other things than ones in past era’s and that goes above only acting on health advice.

James Che @1:09

“…so you act as captives”.

James, ever read The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude by the 16th century French lawyer Etienne de la Boetie?

I could help with the definition of restaurant– it’s an eating place where alcohol takes priority over a meal.

PacMan @1:47

Today’s political leaders, if they’d been imbued with any character, could have sought opinion from a much wider range of scienists and doctors. Rather than just from charlatans like that Ferguson.

Fraser

“where alcohol takes priority over a meal”. Story of my life.

bob mack @ 11:57

unlike you……the sites resident orangeman.

how long did it take you to figure out it was all about hate?….exactly….it’ll take you even longer to figure out what’s happening with SARS2.

Jason Leitch was on Off The Ball yet again – his latest is that there will be no return to ‘normal’ football attendance before the Euro finals next June.

Next June.

That man has no right to frighten people like this. It’s unconscionable that he and the FM treat social engineering as some kind of a fucking game week after week, tinkering with this and that – ‘oh well, maybe we’ll try this instead’ – while people’s livelihoods go down the pan and their elderly loved ones slip into depression, spending their final (bug-free) days heartbroken and confused. It’s horrific and inexcusable.

Have just checked ‘Jason Leitch’ on Twitter – loads of reasonable, non-aggressive questions were sent to OTB but he wasn’t asked anything more challenging than the difference between a cafe and a restaurant. Many are contacting OTB to ask that they get rid of Leitch’s ‘sermon’ or simply stating that they’ve switched off after years listening.

Stuart Cosgrove and Tam Cowan are smart cookies and they must know how much damage that guy is doing to their show/reputation. The fact they haven’t hoofed him suggests, very strongly, that they’ve been told to make that space available for Leitch indefinitely.

If Leitch, the FM, or anyone else thinks they’re going to get away with subjecting us to this irrational, sadistic, pointless fucking nonsense until next summer they’d better think again. It’s not going to happen.

There’s a growing number of us here, and on all other social media platforms, who will continue to post links to the facts as they unfold. More and more people are simply refusing to have their lives controlled in this way. And no amount of angry name-calling from the usual suspects is going to stop us.

Some interesting comments here on covid and how serious it is to the average person,
It seems that a lot of leaders in government do not wear face masks even, noticed Micheal gove not wearing sitting a few feet away from whatever you call him, noticed they often put on face masks for public tv, but are not often wearing them when caught unexpected,
Of our leaders around the world, those whom are supposed to have caught it are either back to work or going about there business, looking like they did before, even the over weight and elderly ones,
People are beginning to suspect it may be for the purpose of governments to control the people world wide,
It does not make sense that thousands of doctors world wide are not allowed to give their opinion, that only a chosen few are allowed,
luckily I see that doctors and lawyers have come together world wide to prevent the abuse,

They talk about no pubs or businesses not allowed to open , but they allowed the bar in Westminster to stay open, we’re in lockdown for Christmas, and not allowed to see family,
But I bet

The BBC is now the biggest Covid risk. At every turn they turn medical and health decisions into a political attack on the sg and give air time to mask deniers, businesses who will not pay the price of their denial and the usual Sarah Smith view of the unionists world
The BBC is our biggest risk to health.

The first ‘wave’ was more like a round of deaths – not a wave.

My prediction, which I made in March, was for an average 60 deaths per day at peak for Scotland and I turned out to be correct – the people I presented it to went for the SG version which said in excess of 70,000 deaths, just for Scotland and just for the ‘first wave’.

There will be no second wave. If Scotland witnesses even half that, 30 deaths in a single day that is not a Monday (NHS didn’t think it was serious enough to put an actual Doctor on duty at the weekends to sign death certificates for the first round, so I don’t see them doing it for the second round), but if they do, hit 30 as I say, I will give the Rev £1000 to donate to a Charity of his choice.

Meanwhile, modelling says 2nd wave Oct/Nov, 3rd wave Feb/Mar and no doubt next week they will be handing us the 4th ‘wave’ dates.

I stood under our town war memorial today, quietly paying my respects, but I am now thinking it was all for nothing.

Aye, all those bloody wind turbines, generating relative clean bloody energy when compared to other sources of power. It’s a bloody disgrace creating all this clean energy when we could just be burning coal and oil…

Oh! But what’s this? Scotland yet again exporting over 100% more power than it is using.

link to extranet.nationalgrid.com

Over 30% of GB Grid power currently being produced by wind.

link to gridwatch.templar.co.uk

The issue over subsidies being paid to wind farm owners is not just limited to that type of power generation. Oil and gas companies also receive incentives and tax favouring policies.
As Energy is a power reserved to Westminster, we are effectively bound by their actions and limited ability to address the issues.

link to twitter.com

link to m.youtube.com

Dan,
Scotland is the Golden Goose that Westminster must hang on to.

Bob,
I agree with what you say, it’s a balance of all aspects of our society that needs to be found.

TIMELINE NS/AS

Timeline – updated today 10/10/20.

2014

18/9/14 Indy Ref 1

Nov 2014 NS made leader of SNP and FM Scotland

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7th May 2015 UK GE – SNP win 56 seats

1st July 2015 Leslie Evans becomes Permanent Secretary Scotland

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2016

5th May 2016 – Holyrood Election

23rd June 2016 Brexit Referendum

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2017

16th March 2017 Terrible May officially rejects NS IR2 request. Now is not the Time.

4th May 2017 – Scottish Local Elections

8th June 2017 – Terrible May calls a GE and wins.

AS loses his seat.

NS takes IndyRef2 off the table. Now is not the time.
A marked difference in her attitude is seen.
‘Not until the Terms of Brexit are Known becomes the mantra.

13th June 2017 ? Not sure if this is correct date?- Ref-Scot taken down at £482,000 of £1 million target

The Brexit deadline time line is I think November 2018 ish.

Both Pete Wishart and Tommy Shepherd (Tommy did this in a public talk, as far as I can tell he was the first person to run this up the flagpole, since then he has kept his head down on this subject – his background is old/new labour) start to talk about ‘not until after Brexit and the hard effects are felt, should we go for IndyRef2’. PW is fully supported in this view by John Swinney.

July 2017 (source Civil Service World) HM Revenue and Customs confirm the go ahead on a new Civil Service Hub to be build at Waverly St, Edinburgh to staff 11 Civil Servant departments – 3,000 positions. 20 year lease taken out. Artisan the contractor.

Oct 2017 ScotGov begins review of complaints policy. Aamer Anwar makes allegations of ‘ticking time bomb’ ‘catalogue’ of sexual harassment at HR.

November 2017

9th November 2017 AS gets his own TV Show on RT. While the Yes movement is delighted at an evening up on the media inequality… the official SNP and NS – pursed lips all round.

17th Nov 2017 – Sky New reported to be actively investigating AS over historic incidents from 2008.

First Documentary ‘The Only Game In Town’ is aired on WOS.

Nov 2017 – Evans confirmed she raised the issue with Sturgeon after learning about media interest in an incident at Edinburgh Airport in 2008-9. Airport informed Angus Robertson (can’t pin down when).

8 Drafts of complaints procedures (for dealing with current and previous employees with regards harassment complaints) – all of which have official role for First Minister with the procedures

1st Dec 2017 Nicole Richards – Director of People – contacts James Hynd re draft number 9, its, ‘agreed with Permanent Secretary I would test it with some of the key individuals’

5th Dec 2017 Judith Mackinnon – Head of Peoples Advisor has meeting with Ms A and shared draft procedures with her.

6th December 2017 Nicole Richards sends ‘final draft (9) to PS Leslie Evans which is approved by NS. This draft, unlike the previous 8 excludes the First Minister from any formal role in the process.

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Jan 2018

Sky News approaches the SNP re allegations of a sexual nature against AS. This may be the first complaint registered with Scot Gov against AS, or indeed the first complaint by employee may have been registered at this time, its not clear.

Feb 2018 Murray Foote Resigns from DR

March 2018

Liz Lloyd meeting Aberdein 6th March 2018
She claimed the complaints she mentioned to Aberdein re Salmond were to do with Airportgate
Not the backdated Government enquiry about which she claimed she did not know at the time.
link to archive.is

Mid March Geoff Aberdein is contacted by NS aids to set up a meeting with her on 29th March – this is not mentioned in any way, or officially recorded (as far as we yet know) in NS evidence to the inquiry.

GA can corroborate this contact, and has provided this information under oath at AS criminal trial.

29th March 2018
NS meets with Aberdein (who is according to NS, in parliament to see former colleague) and is informed of AS issue – according to her for the first time. Meeting takes place at Holyrood, in her office – and she later ‘forgets’ the timing of this meeting possibly due to not being supposed to hold party meetings in this venue.

Meeting and all those present is NOT officially recored in the FM’s diary.

(At FMQ on 8/10/20 she refers to it (not exact wording) as an off the cuff type meeting, fleeting/head round the door.

In contrast to GA who describes it clearly under oath as pre-arranged, and has since stated it lead to him seeking legal advice prior to attending.)

She lied to Scottish Parliament about when she was first made aware of the complaints.

April 2018

2/4/18 NS thinks AS will resign (from her whats app messages/evidence)

Rumours abound within Yes Movement at this time that NS is soon to step down from Holyrood, and possibly go on to a big job at UN.

WM votes to illegally bomb Syria.

Legal appeal against Brexit begins.

22/4/18 AS sends NS message

May 2018 Brexit – attitudes to Indy due to Brexit, ways of gaining Indy all still being talked about.

31/5/18 AS sends message to NS requesting a meet.

June 2018

3/6/18 AS threatens legal action. Asks for Permanent Secretary to be notified re sorting the matter out by legal arbitration procedures. Alerts NS that her current procedures are likely to be found unlawful and as a qualified lawyer and FM she is expected to review it and made a decision.

6/6/18 PS notified by NS
7/6/18 NS meets AS alone

SNP high in Polls

13/6/18 SNP walk out of WM in protest at treatment of the Skye Banker and what was to become the UK Internal Market Bill. Marked overnight increase in SNP membership, international media coverage of same.
Same Date Iain McWhirter writes about Devolution ending not with a bang but a whimper over this bill.

23/6/19 MSP Mark Macdonald Scandal***

July 2018

4th July 2018 – Scotland Claim of Right passed at WM

5th July NS has meeting with AS
18/7/18 No further contact after this date

Wings over Scotland has its You Tube BBC content taken down without its knowledge by BBC in London.*** Why? What footage did they want removed and why? Peter Curran’s web site also taken down. *** As far as can be seen there was nothing in the WOS footage that might have had any reference to the above. With regards Peter Curran’s website footage – unable to check. He took his site down later, concerned about criticism of the SNP GRA policy.

August 2018
17th August WOS appears in court re Kezia Dugdale

19th August Campaign in Edinburgh by many English people campaigning for Peoples Vote on Brexit and begging Scotland to assist. Apparently they don’t thing the Brexit Referndum was won fairly – when IndyRef1 unfairness pointed out to them – tumbleweed.
Kirsty Hughes – lobbyist for same – also showed up on list of ‘journalists’ who have received same ‘support’ from some Anglo/America consortium. Dani Garavelli was also on the list. Later on DG reports on the AS trial could be construed as ‘jigsaw identifying one of the complainers in AS trial’ (For obvious reasons I’m being diplomatic with this sentence.)

UK Brexit Appeal lodged

Allegations against AS made public. Civil law complaints, 2 complainers at this time. (Was it 2 complainers on 29th March 2018? If not then when, where and by what means did the second one come forward?)

AS initiates Record Breaking fund raiser and instigates Judicial Appeal. Rumours abound that SNP membership increased dramatically overnight in response – no confirmation from SNP re this in anyway.

30th August 2018 Permanent Secretary Leslie Evans meets with Civil Servant Unions to attempt to gain support against AS.

Sept 2018 Polling shows support of Indy increasing due to brexit

Oct 2018 AUOB march – Edinburgh big turnout

Nov 2018 Brexit deadline reached – Transition period entered. No talk from NS or other top SNP members as to how we save Scotland. Not until the Terms of Brexit are Known is the mantra, and the sound of the can rattles down the road again.

Dec 2018
19th Vote of No Confidence in Terrible May at WM. Boris elected. Actions by the Labour party ensure Brexit No deal is the only game in town.

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January 2019

AS Airbrushed out of SNP Website. NS has ordered top SNP politicians not to appear on his RT Show. AS puts pressure on her on his show, to call a second IR.

During this month or the next NS manages to recollect she had that meeting with Aberdein on 29th March 2018. Does nothing to update the official record of same, at this time.

8/1/19 AS wins Court of Judiciary process – procedure deemed unfair and tainted by apparent bias.

The Times calls for Leslie Evans to be sacked.
20/1/19 LE contract of employment extended (possibly with 20,000 £ pay rise)

From memory – it was within weeks of AS initial win that Criminal Procedures were taken out against him. Over 20 Police officers allocated to investigate him, to come up with a prosecution case that can best be described as flimsy in the extreme.

January 2019

Feb 2019 Brexit, nothing resembling a plan from the SNP

March 2019 Another Brexit Deadline comes and goes, no real progress, transition extended.

23/3/19 Kezia Dugdale v WOS defamation trial

April 2019
24/4/19 NS puts before Holyrood legislation for HR to hold referendums without permission from WM. This will be legally challenged by WM if it ever gets put into action.

May 2019

6th May AUOB march in Glasgow 100,000

End May GE called for December

June 2019 GE talk

14th June 2019 – New Civil Service Hub at Edinburgh – Queen Elizabeth House, officially opens. To house 3000 civil servant staff. Widely thought to be preparation to take over duties from Holyrood, once power grab and Brexit are complete.

To put this in perspective 1 year from announcement of 20 year lease, to building being ready for move in. All with public money at a time of Austerity!!!

July 2019

4th July Mhairi Black posts video of herself referring to all who have reservations about GRA Self ID as ‘Jeremy Hunts’. It is around about this time she is seen in HOC’s putting her hand in her pocket and then taking her hand out rubbing her finger round her gums. Concerns were raised that this is classic Cocaine misuse behaviour – she laughed this off dismissively and stated she was finishing off a piece of Kit Kat.

30th July 2019 NEC attempts to de-select Joanna Cherry as MP.

August 2019

Westminster Brexit Coup

Polling shows Support for IndyRef2 growing

Sept 2019
WM unlawfully prorogued – as found by court after action by MP Joanna Cherry
SNP policy now officially ‘Stop Brexit’ Full support for Peoples Vote on a second Brexit Vote

20/9/19 The Times reports on allegations NS is failing to keep proper records of her Government business, specifically referring to June ’19.

Oct 2019
SNP at WM prevent a Vote of No Confidence in Boris.
Tories High in polls (UK)

16th Oct 2019 – NS to DEMAND powers for Holyrood to hold Referendums. Pretty much empty rhetoric to play to the home crowd. Presumably she’ll thqeem and thqeeum and thqeem if Boris says no.

SNP policy is now openly calling for second Brexit ‘peoples vote’ on Brexit.

Electorial Commission demand 9 months notice for any further Indy Ref.. Indy Ref 2 now pencilled in for second half of 2020. ‘Trust in Nicola’ becomes the theme.

Nov 2019 Only Game in Town part 2 is shown on WoS. Leslie Evens is named within for questionable actions.

The Times reports NS handwritten notes have not been kept and have been destroyed, NS avoids using her Scot Gov e-mail system, Conservatives report her to Public Records Scotland Act 2011 for possible breach.

Dec 2019
Wings over Scotland Twitter account suspended weeks, just weeks before AS trial is due to go ahead, following complaints from woke members of SNP. And just in time for the GE.

GE Neale Harvey and Denise Findlay suspended from SNP over dubious, if not spurious complaints, and with little regard for proper procedures for carrying out same.
SNP withdraws all funding for Neil’s GE campaign and instructs SNP supporters not to assist him. He gets elected anyway.
Motive thought to have been for having signed the Womans Pledge, and complaints thought to have been instigated by Woke element within SNP.

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Jan 2020

11/1/20 Boris says No, to the full support of the English voting constituency.

31/1/20 Brexit officially happens – NS gives much hyped speech during which it becomes apparent there was no Plan A, never mind a cunning plan B. ‘Trust in Nicola’ not such a good theme.

Feb 2020
Covid getting closer. GRA under ‘consultation’ open to every country under the sun to contribute. Somerville openly declares her determination to push it through. Only organisations openly biased in favour are getting ministerial time to present their case.
Polls show agenda to be major vote loser.

Murray Foote infamous creator of the VOW, converts from No to Yes and is employed by SNP as media expert.

March 2020

23/3/20 AS trail – Cleared on all charges. Journalists with pro indy credentials excluded from the trial and subsequently charged with contempt of court for quoting main stream media reports verbatim.
Craig Murray the only journalist (as far as I’m aware) to record and publish, in any detail, the evidential statements given by defence witnesses. A trial in search of a crime, best description of it.
No comments of support, or compassion or relief of any kind toward AS and his wife, over whole debauchle from official SNP reps.

Covid Lockdown begins.

Boris is a complete wreck. His cabinet are not any better.

NS holds daily press conferences and receives good press for same. Support for Indy rises to 55%. No other campaigning. The official line from NS is two fold,

I’m totally focused on Covid, and
Indref 2 is off the table until the economic effects of Covid are dealt with – which could be a decade or more… The can is not so much kicked down the road as rocket launched into the stratosphere.

Aug/Sept 2020 Kirsty Wark does a hatchet job on the AS trial, so biased even journalists on the Telegraph noticed. Widely referred to as ‘a nasty piece of Wark’.

30 Sept 2020 UK Internal Market Bill passed (first hearing) at WM – second hearing due late Oct 2020.

NS unable to delegate to her Health ministers for ANY single press briefings even months down the line.

October 2020 – final transition period for Brexit deadline November – now approaching and No Deal the only thing on the cards.

Internal UK Market Bill passed at WM an open destruction of devolution and power grab. 3000 civil servants moved into Edinburgh to fascilitate same. SNP official policy – `now is not the time’ ‘Only when we can win’ Covid, covid, covid, look at the polls, look at the polls, look at the polls.
So, that’s it for the moment.

@Bob Mack –

You ask a fair question re Salmond.

The truth is, I did believe there had to be at least some substance to it all – ‘No smoke without fire’ and all that. It’s embarrassing to admit that now but it’s the truth and it was utterly heartbreaking.

If I hadn’t kept up to speed by reading this place then I would’ve done what I did years ago, when Tommy Sheridan’s ‘alleged’ shenanigans blew the SSP to bits – I turned my back on Scottish politics and switched off radio/TV if any mention of Tommy or SSP was made. It wasn’t until the SNP victory in 2011 that I made myself take an interest again and that was solely because AS had promised an indy referendum.

You’re right – no-one’s perfect. None of the politicians, and certainly none of us. But we can’t affect their lives the way they affect ours and it’s our responsibility to take them to task when they’re out of order. Otherwise they can just do what they fuckin well please and that’s exactly how it feels to me right now.

God only knows we have no right to expect ‘perfect’ government. And so long as democracy means human beings being chosen to make decisions on our behalf it’ll never happen. But neither should we tolerate being treated as livestock. I’ll go to prison before seeing my children virtually ‘branded’ and will politely decline to attend for my ‘vaccine’ jab. And if that makes me a second-class citizen, so be it. As a Scot, governed by people who openly despise me, my family, friends, neighbours, culture and history, I got used to that unpleasant fact a long time ago.

Ian Brotherhood, I think it’s an awkward situation – we need clear messaging from government, controlling infections needs the oversight of government. So Nicola Sturgeon is usually pretty good at making speeches and communicating – all she does in the daily briefs is read out what others give her: statistics and public health information – and government policy, rules and stuff. She should have stuck to only doing the latter – she knows no more than you or I about medical things and diseases, she can’t inform us of useful things about why we need to do stuff because she doesn’t have the knowledge, experience or skills required for that.

‘Doing better than Boris’ is not really an aspiration is it?

Nicola Sturgeon should have delegated the daily briefs to those that actually know what they are talking about – Jeanne Freeman and Jason Leitch are there, quite capable, and should have led the daily stuff. Nicola Sturgeon should only do either once a week or when there are policy changes. This would give maximum impact to new rules being declared, and given us some education about how infections work etc from the daily briefs. That would have been the best choice for our wellbeing.

What Nicola Sturgeon has done has made the briefings a political exercise – using it for maximum exposure to up her popularity rating. That’s the sort of thing that politicians do, I have no beef with that. But. It would be a bit more honourable if she did it for the SNP and independence.

The message she puts across, the rules she is imposing, are not ‘hers’ – we should be grateful she is listening to advice, and at least doing some of it – the messages come from medical folk and public health officials, NS is just a mouthpiece here, in the main.

The problem with her strategy is that because she has taken all the ‘glory’ (if you can call it that) for herself, as soon as public trust in her disappears (it starts to crumble) people will stop following the rules and things will go awry.

Because of her selfish desire for popularity and more power for herself, and because of her previous lies and behaviour being exposed, she really does risk our health. She started off badly, following Westminster, but altered her stance just enough to continue projecting the ‘caring persona’ that so many still believe, or want to believe. So we have done better from this than England, but it has hardly been a stellar performance. She doesn’t know enough about either infections or how the economy works to do stellar in this situation.

So – the messages and rules should not be undermined, we need them, but she puts us in the awkward situation where it is her delivering the messages, so we lack trust – it’s political game playing and we are being used.

It is difficult – the message itself should not be undermined (it might not be great, but it’s better than nothing), and she has made it so we can’t criticise her without doing the undermining. Nasty piece of work.

It would appear that Nicola Sturgeon is channelling her inner John Knox, but rather than rail against the daemon drink and the “monstrous regiment of women”, she seems to have something against the “monstrous regiment” of decent, ordinary, working-class Scots. She’s not so much a Joan of Arc as a Queen Anne of England type figure! With less than 1% of the population at risk of dying from Covid-19, why are restrictions imposed which affect 100% of the population? Covid-1984 indeed! “The psychosis of mass fear creates fear.”

With reference to todays cartoon, Scotland is being completely scammed and lied to by the Scottish government, concerning Covid.

Their official position is that in their view, the schools are safe. Covid isn’t being spread from the schools. Of course, everyone and their dug knows this not to be the case but here’s the catch:

The Scottish government are blaming the rise in cases on the socialising in pubs and restaurants, so they’ve shut them down for two weeks at precisely the same time as the school holidays.

Reported cases will now drop and the Scottish government will say ‘See? We told you. It WAS the fault of the pubs and restaurants.’

Coincidentally yet again, when the schools go back after the holidays, the pubs and places also re-open. Again, there will be a rise in cases but because they Scottish government can’t afford to close the schools, their position will be unshakeable when they continue to tell people that the schools are safe.

Then they’ll point to the re-opening of the pubs and restaurants and say ‘See? We told you. We were right, that’s where the increases in cases is coming from!’

There is a clear ideologically driven anti-alcohol agenda at play here under the guise of the Coronavirus Act 2020.

The Scottish government are scamming Scotland.

In my opinion managing the virus is even more trickier for the Scottish government than the English one, simply because we don’t have the borrowing powers that Westminster has, to offset job losses, Scotland mainly relies on the English chancellor in this matter.

If we had the borrowing powers, we might have been able to tread another path but as it is, its a balancing act between restrictions and the economy the latter will suffer, and job losses will be great because we as a nation cannot borrow cash to provide temporarily laid off workers, who might become permanently laid off with a bit of financial security.

Properly funded workers by the government, helps those folk to stop worrying about every day bills, and also allows them t focus more on following the rules with regards to the virus.

Ask yourselves this if you had very little money and the bills were piling up what would be your first concern, following the rules on Covid? or taking care of your family?

@Grouse Beater says:
10 October, 2020 at 3:38 pm
“‘Civil Disobedience’: link to wp.me”

If you are so keen about civil disobedience then lead by example.

@Contrary –

I wish I had taken note of the time this was said by Leitch on Off The Ball – he made it clear that these decisions are being made by him and the FM. The extent to which they are ‘informed’ by science is not clear. If scientists are involved, why aren’t they doing the briefings? And if they aren’t involved, that makes the decisions, essentially, ‘political’ (not in the sense of propaganda), or ‘common sense’ or however else you want to put it.

The point is that these decisions are being made by two individuals who are no more qualified in the science of epidemiology than you or me. That cannot be right and we must call it out. They are putting intolerable pressures on almost everyone.

Why the fuck do we put up with this? How did we become so supine? It is shameful, and it’s our fault for allowing ourselves to get so lazy and stupid.

What dignity is there in surviving if it means you’re on your knees, doing someone else’s bidding without even really understanding why? I actually feel embarrassed having to write these comments – it’s been seven fuckin months since this shite started, more than long enough for people to do their own homework. And the proof is out there. It won’t appear on the msm, and no-one -especially in here! – should expect it to. But no – easier to just parrot the non-sequiturs, get barked into silence by blowhard amateurs and armchair scientists, and comply with whatever diktats are issued from the sainted Nicola and her pet, Jason.

Ian Brotherhood @4.18pm.

Ian.

What about the infection rates and the death, which are both rising, are you saying that we shouldn’t do anything? Or what would you like to see done differently that would make a big difference?

As I said in my 3.59pm comment the Scottish governments approach is severely hampered by a lack of cash, we cannot borrow enough money to pay staff, and in some cases employers laid off temporarily, due to the restrictions, which brings us full circle back to the rising cases and deaths.

Not being an independent nation hits us harder financially I think as Westminster controls the purse strings.

@Republicofscotland –

No, I’m not saying we ‘do nothing’.

At least half a dozen of us have regularly been posting links, since this started, which turn The Leitch Narrative (i.e. whatever the ‘official’ line happens to be on any given day) on its head.

In March and April, those links were greeted with fury. Now, the response is much more muted and thoughtful and some of the loudest cheerleaders for total compliance have gone quiet or shifted to pastures new.

Do you think that I, or anyone else, courts unpopularity on purpose? Do you think lockdown critics love their grandparents and children and care for their neighbours and communities any less than everyone else? Why would I do that? What’s the incentive for me?

We’re doing it because we believe that this ‘crisis’ is premised on deception. The whos and whys are for others to determine – our job right now is to object to what’s being done because it is wrong and we’re doing that, at least in part, on behalf of those who cannot do it for themselves.

@Contrary 3:27pm,

“‘Doing better than Boris’ is not really an aspiration is it?”

Most of us do better than that by around 9AM each day!

Seeing some of the twitter comments from English folk in my industry about how restrictions are being handled, it sounds like the tories are closing the breweries because they couldn’t organise a piss-up in one!

Contrary: “we have done better from this than England”

No we haven’t. Glasgow is about as bad as anywhere in England.

In terms of Scotland as a whole, the data is skewed by population density but, even at that, mortality rates are within the same sort of range.

She couldn’t resist jumping in front of the camera and doing her Mother Theresa act. Well, that’s all well and good, but the bodies are going to be piling up soon – she can’t take credit for the good stuff and say the bad stuff is Westminster’s fault.

A smarter person would have understood all that and saw the potential pitfalls.

The tragedy is that the only political buoyancy she has right now is provided this vile disease. Well, let’s see how long that keeps her afloat.

There’s a lesson here, isn’t there; don’t stab your grassroots and their heroes in the back. Normally the Indy movement would out arguing for her and protecting her. She has nobody.

She could have been honest and this disease could have been a bigger boon to the Indy cause than even Brexit. But, no, that wouldn’t work, not when your selfish goal is to be some global leader on Coronavirus.

If she was a British agent Scotland would have gotten more out of her reign.

Ian,

Yes, the answer is for everyone to educate themselves.

Leitch is a blowhard, politically speaking, but he is an effective communicator, was able to put up his hands to anything he said wrong, and understands things from a medical point of view. I don’t listen any more mind you, so couldn’t say if there has been improvement or more mince. The point is, Nicola Sturgeon is not the one that should be discussing public health measures.

Because Leitch and Sturgeon are trying to hog the limelight, you think it’s them that are doing everything ,,,

‘The science’ is meaningless politic-speak for more meaningless empty rhetoric. I’m hardly going to ask an oceanographer how to treat earache am I? ‘Science’ : pish and piffle. It’s public health and infectious diseases experts that should have the biggest say in what to do – epidemiologists are the ones gathering data and putting things together on a broader scale to inform those experts.

If NS has alternative agendas running, it isn’t relevant in the immediate short-term, there needs to be some rules and restrictions (in the absence of better policies etc – yes, they should be there, yes much more should be getting done, yes we should have more trustworthy government, but) there has to be coordination of measures from central government (no, there should not be total control by central government, no there should not be conflicting and confusing rules, no they should not be destroying our economy and making us all destitute in the meantime,,,) – the importance of good government suddenly becomes the most important issue. Well, we (collectively, I don’t mean individuals) sat on our arses and did nothing about it, and this is what we get. Replacing NS would be a good start.

We have TWO shit governments, both of which give us shit information. Learn about hygiene and infection control yourself, then apply it and educate others. Until you do, you need to follow the rules, because that’s all we have if we don’t understand the mechanisms at play.

In saying that – we are lazy and supine because that’s what our political leaders want, we are forced to be like this through social pressure and regulation (everything from town planning, to employment laws), we aren’t allowed the luxury of space, money and time to ,,, live well essentially. I hate this consumerism everything is a rush lets reward sociopathic behaviour world.

“we are forced to be like this through social pressure and regulation (everything from town planning, to employment laws), we aren’t allowed the luxury of space, money and time to ,,,”

This, though town planners don’t make the laws or try to place politics above them. 😉

European Journal of Bioethics, Vol. 5/2, No. 10, 2014
Why teach “Bioethics and Human
Rights” to healthcare professions
undergraduates?

ABSTRACT

This article highlights the importance of teaching “bioethics and human rights” to undergraduate students seeking health care degrees and illustrates how this topic fits well within these programs of studies. Historical, cultural, anthropological and practical reasons support teaching these topics as enrichment of medical training.

The years after the Second World War showed how bioethics, human rights and medicine are closely intertwined. Moreover the relationship between human rights and bioethics has grown ever closer increasingly involving medicine and health care professionals. The authors observe that medical students have to face a cultural pluralism in bioethics and biolaw and we give students the opportunity to develop their critical thinking and logical argumentation abilities as well as their interest in academic research.

Furthermore, the authors – who draw up briefly the experience of the Institute of Bioethics at the Faculty of Medicine and Surgery of the UCSC (Rome) – assert the necessity to help medical students to be respectful of patients in every clinical setting. It is therefore of utmost importance to train students to focus on the ethical dimension of care and to make good ethical decisions even in dilemmatic cases.

To achieve this outcome, healthcare professionals should possess an integral vision of their work (technical and humanistic competence) and sharp skills to reflect in depth, avoiding superficiality and negligence. From this perspective, the teaching of “bioethics and human rights” could be very useful.

Keywords:
Bioethics, Human Rights, Biolaw, medical students, Nuremberg Trials, Codes of Medical Ethics, conscientious objection.

link to hrcak.srce.hr

Ian Brotherhood….Your hatred of Sturgeon et al is blinding you to the actual reality of a PANDEMIC i.e. World wide epidemic.

This is a separate issue from Sturgeon and her shenanigans and showboating. One of my oldest friends died of Covid 19 in the last two months, and I know of others who have ‘recovered’ and are still struggling with a variety of issues that are debilitating. I have spoken to doctors and a medical scientist, and believe me this virus is real and deadly.

By conflating the ‘messengers’ : Sturgeon and Leitch with the message is wrong. They are taking medical and research based information into account. Knowledge which is changing as understanding of the virus is being elicited day by day.

Yes, the message is political..but that is the case everywhere.It is based on the real politic of each country under threat. As it is I don’t agree with the Scot Gov approach, but I understand the ‘lock step’ with England for the reasons others have outlined: that of the Barnet Consequentials limitation on spending and more importantly borrowing.

Sturgeon may not be what anybody on here wanted, but she and Boris would not wilfully create an army of unemployed for some machiavellian purpose. The ‘Illumnati’ have far better ways of controlling the world.Already resistance is growing amongst the uncommitted population and it is a certainty that the orange unionist rump will soon be organising. Sturgeon’s current popularity will disappear faster than snow off a dyke the longer this crisis persists.

Please don’t align yourself with the Andrew Wakefields of this world..and the vaccine deniers and the alt rite cranks that are now popping up on this site to divide and conquer. Remember, in less than 3 x months, real fascism will descend on our devolved assembly and our country in the shape of the Internal market and the final stripping of our Sovereignty by our oldest enemy.

Cameronbrodie you seem to have been brainwashed in your education, with the inability to think for yourself, everything is a quote or paraphrase,
You never answered in your own words how so many countries seemed to have identical political policies on putting covid patients in the old people’s home?
and while not providing protective gear beforehand.
Then enforcing that with lockdown of care homes,
These actions around the world are crimes against humanity

A word of advice to the guys on the skeptical side of the Covid debate.

Save your energy. Stop trying to argue with people who will find anything at all to protect their illusions about the world.

A far more profitable use of your time is to simply save any official releases and updates you find and let the professionals do the talking for you.

The people you SHOULD be talking to are the people who already get it and building support groups for sharing info, giving comfort and organising if necessary.

Leave the zombies to it.

James Che
You appear to consider a professional training to be “brainwashing”, so I’ll not be taking you too seriously. I’m simply ably to point folk towards practical and ethically sourced knowledge that could be useful in the support of democracy, though I’m unable to answer your question as the inter-cultural sociology of covi-19 is not fully clear yet. Though it’s pretty obvious the more overtly neo-liberal the regime, the higher the death-toll is likely to be.

Not got anything better than lame snark?

Joe….or is it G.I. Joe?

‘alt rite cranks that are now popping up on this site to divide and conquer.’

That’s you you fucker.

I don’t want to find myself on the floor again gasping for breath and unable to dial 999 so that alcohol pushers can enjoy an enhanced lifestyle and self-indulgent twats can go on the piss.

I’m so selfish.

A blog by Roger Mullin for a Saturday nicht read.

link to independentview.org

Breastplate says: 10 October, 2020 at 2:09 pm

Pacman,
Of, course this isn’t Sweden but they are addressing the exact same problems as us. They have differing population density throughout their country exactly the same as us.

I’m suggesting learning lessons of what works from them or anyone else for that matter.

I assume you live in Scotland and with previous comments you are not happy with. Since in your opinion Sweden is doing better then maybe the best option is to emigrate there. The link to do so is here:

link to sweden.se

Al-Stuart says: 10 October, 2020 at 4:55 pm

Politicians need to take advice from health professionals and make political positions in the wider context that goes beyond the health side only.

They simply can’t make political positions based on advice given by health professionals alone. If in the long run the Scottish Government has been proven to do that then history will remember them.

Ian Brotherhood….fair do’s…I don’t like disagreeing with a long time Wings’fellow traveller’.

Some random thoughts.

Re the Contact and Trace data gathering apps. Looking a wee bit ahead, to the halcyon days of Private Health Care and Health Insurance.

Just how Expensive will your Health Insurance Premiums be if the app you carry now registers you as having come into contact with the disease/and or contracted it.

People quite rightly eye up big pharma’s ruthless business models with concern.

Place your other eye on the Health Insurance providers. In America they aggressively lobby the Government Medical Boards. Where they can downgrade the legal classification (as they have with MS) from a Disease to a Condition – they can dramatically reduce the levels of medical care they provide their customer.

Which is one reason why they are so aggressive at data mining for personal medical details of the public.

Call me old fashioned, but the Government is not providing me with a mobile phone, or offering to pay my bill for same. Where’s the law that says I’ve got to have one.

I’m happy to wash my hands and wear the face mask, isolate when needed. But I will not be carrying their app, I will not be complying with their proposed ID card, and I will not be taking their proposed vaccination – not at this stage anyway.

Just an update from America on Covid. It seems around 10,000 mink have died over the last few days. They generally die a day after infection. Why this is concerning is that it is documented already it is travelling into other species like cats, dogs ,even tigers,and if they are susceptible then there are serious implications for the food chain never mind your freedom. Makes you think.

“I don’t like disagreeing with a long time Wings’fellow traveller’.”

Neither do I Ian, but I’m just getting a little cheesed off that you appear to completely disregard my point of view. Even worse, you appear to consider me a psychologically unstable stooge of authority. That’s how you’ve depicted me anyway. And you’ve still made no effort to recant or apologise, so I have to assume that is how you see me.

If truth be told Ian, you appear to be a bit of a danger to yourself and others, though I’m sure that’s not your intention. Please appreciate the ethical logic of this, and try to be a bit more rational in your judgement.

@ Bob Mack at 7.42pm

It read to me as at least attempting to move in the right direction which may have more traction to progress than a more radical approach. Have to remember some questionable folk are already in positions of power and control within the party so it’s not like they are going to be receptive to giving that up easily.

@ Daisy at 7.57pm

IIRC Rev Stu eluded that assessing the candidates positions on certain aspects was being looked at.
In the meantime, if it helps this lad has been compiling a table of folk who are putting themselves forward for selection as MSP candidates.

link to twitter.com

@Dan,

Yes Dan I appreciate what you and he mean,but my thoughts are that time is an asset we just dont have to facilitate these levels of change.

You know yourself about power grabs and all the rest coming stud like a bullet train. We have no time to slowly do anything. The party must be repaired and prepared sooner rather than later.

Daisy, thanks for the timeline btw, it’s good to get a general overview like that.

What I have to contribute is anecdotal and I can’t verify the the veracity (drunken conversation a few years ago) – I met up with someone I’d known for years, but hadn’t seen for a couple, so I didn’t see the point in any lying but thought it hyperbole because we were having a political discussion at the time. With all the talk about how the SNP leadership is flying in their preferred candidate and taking over local SNP groups, I keep thinking back to that conversation, and think – oh, maybe it was actually true.

He said that he used to be an SNP member, a very active one, 15 years ago (so that’d be what, about 20 years ago now) but he gave it all up and is now unionist (that was the bit I couldn’t fathom, why,,, but then, people have all sorts of reasons for supporting independence, and this was well before indyref and the Yes Movement, and if you felt betrayed by a party you believed in,,, and this would be around the time Holyrood was just formed too ) – because that exact thing happened: they had their own candidate set up, it was all local, everyone happy, and then helicoptered in by head office was some smarmy stranger no one knew but they were instructed to campaign for.

If this is true, well it implies it has been habit for quite a while. Is it possible AS started this policy? – I can understand the reasoning, if you want to get MSPs and MPs bums on seats, get candidates most likely to win in place – the SNP have enjoyed ever increasing numbers for a while now. He would have seen the new Scottish Parliament as a real opportunity.

As a strategy, all very well while you are doing it with integrity and choosing candidates well – and I don’t doubt AS’s belief and determination for independence (but he is still an ambitious politician, so). But if this policy has been continued, and we don’t have very honourable people in charge any more, and they start taking the piss (people that are really not fit for office chosen as candidates) – it isn’t a policy that should be allowed to continue, when it so easily open to abuse.

Just saying, maybe your timeline would stretch back quite a bit further and imply things that don’t need to be implied, with adding ‘when did this start’ – a focus on when those chosen candidates became family and friends of the inner sanctum might be a good one though.

@Grousebeater,

“May we live respected and die regretted”

You’ve certainly done the first part like a champion.