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Blackhack

And it’s not even my birthday…..:)
It was only a matter of time, but now the whitewashing starts.

Ian McCubbin

Nicola Sturgeon has been arrested an hour ago in connection with SNP finances.

Tartan Tory

“Nicola has consistently said she would cooperate with the investigation if asked and continues to do so.”

There’s a significant difference between trotting down to a police station for coffee and a chat at a convenient time and being taken into custody as a suspect.

Best news of the weekend. 🙂

John C

I imagine this all happened on Sunday as it’ll be quieter but the aftermath of this is going to ruin the SNP. I can’t imagine how they’ll spin this & should this lead to anything I can’t see how anyone barring the hardcore SNP supporter will carry on voting for them.

What’s so sad about this is we’ve went from a bright new dawn to grubby corruption and incompetence in less than a decade. All because Sturgeon and her cronies decided to make Scotland their own fifedom.

Morgatron

Opps a daisy. Evening all.

Beehives

Hate to say I told you so, but that’s a nice Hives quote.

Republicofscotland

That treacherous b*stard Sturgeon arrested in SNP inquiry, I know what she’ll say under duress, I was unaware, not to the best of my knowledge, I didn’t know what was going on etc.

link to 12ft.io

Bill Campbell

No doubt her poor memory will come into play (again!!).

Iain More

So Police Scotland finally gets around to arresting MI5 Agent Sturgeon. I wonder how that will wash out in the coming days and weeks.

Ian Brotherhood

It was my 60th yesterday.

Thank you god.

😉

Jolly Radical

Very unusual to do this on a Sunday afternoon.

Which leads one to speculate whether they plan to charge her today and put her in court for initial proceedings tomorrow morning.

SusanAHF

Won’t it be like Murrell et al, arrested for questioning then released without charge? I won’t get too excited yet

I. Despair

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer scumbag.

Frazerio

The top of that police statement says Poileas Alba. I reckon the mucky paws of that Alicsammin must be behind this atrocious hounding of Saint Nic. Free the Uddingston One!!!

A Scot Abroad

As I understand matters (and I’m not a lawyer), the Police can question somebody as much as they want in the time allowed, and keep questioning them for other periods afterwards, right up until charges are laid. After that, the charged person cannot be questioned further by the Police.

So if the period between arrest and charging is short, the Police think they’ve got all of the information they need. If it drags out, they are still in investigation mode.

It should be interesting.

crazycat

@ Ian Brotherhood

Happy Birthday yesterday!

Sharney Dubs

What’s the chances she walks?

Still there’s always hope.

Good day all the same

thothScot

It’s a welcome moment in the investigation into the corruption/ incompetence that has fully polluted the party,and by extension everyone else.

A sad moment that a group with such a mandate to make real change in the country, whether attaining independence or not, turned out to be as crooked as they are.

Swindling the dreams of others and trashing everything and anyone they touch to stay in power at any cost.

There are still so many questions to be answered regarding the nature and timescales of this investigation that, even with this step, there are doubts that all the truth will out.

The SNP will trot out the same routine of helping with enquiries, once she’s released without charge pending further investigations. Then they will hope the strings they have pulled, and long delays to subvert evidence gathering, will be enough for the investigation to peter out.

Then it’s the usual tricking people into thinking they are supporting the same goal, and parting them from their time, and vitally their money. Then into bed with labour as a triumph for devolution (despite their supposed core purpose), at the next election.

What a sickening bunch. Regardless of positions on independence, everyone in the country deserves better than a group so focused on preserving itself that no act by a supported member or crime committed is considered reason enough to change.

Every decision a car crash. Every scheme a financial disaster for tax payers. Every statement a cover up at best, and often a lazy lie. Hopefully the investigation will result in their end, but I’d not count on it.

Dorothy Devine

Happy Birthday Ian – enjoy the moment of the arrest but temper it with the knowledge it is usually the innocent in Scotland who feel the full weight of the law – I’m thinking Alex Salmond , Craig Murray , Mark Hirst et al.

Ted

Labour/SNP coalition after next election looks more like Labour landslide to me. Still, every election a de facto referendum according to Mr Wishaw.

Mia

Goodness! Took them long enough.

I wonder if she has been taking the driving lessons with the expectation of driving herself the black mariah to leave in style.

We all know by now how much she enjoys driving things to hell. Don’t we?

Skip_NC

I look forward to Operation Proudfoot moving steadily towards a conclusion. It is Operation Proudfoot, isn’t it? Pride coming before you trip over your own feet (or something) and fall down?

ephemeraldeception

Hmm, not sure how far this will go but there will be pressure on the police to charge at least one of the suspects after all this effort.

Wonder how long her marriage of convienance will now last. Though I guess they need to ensure neither can be compelled to testify against the other for a long time yet.

ephemeraldeception

Hmm, not sure how far this will go but there will be pressure on the police to charge at least one of the suspects after all this effort.

Wonder how long her marriage of convenience will now last. Though I guess they need to ensure neither can be compelled to testify against the other for a long time yet.

Lollysmum

This news has made my day & my weekend. Thanks Stuart

Scot

She is going to say she didn’t know and rest on that.
That won’t be sufficient when it gets to court.

The police need to ask all the questions and record her lack of an answer,

Hobbit

The BBC has also reported that Police Scotland went back to the National Crime Agency for a “second opinion” on their (PS’s) work, although the NCA is not involved otherwise.

Ebenezer Scroggie

The third shoe has, at last, dropped.

Is it part of the lackadaisical Poileas Catch&Release programme? Or are they getting serious.

Mia

When is Yousaf going to grow the balls to chuck her out of the party?

Or are his masters instructing him to keep her hanging around like a bad smell, make the SNP even more unelectable and give some much needed oomph to the CPR being frantically applied to resurrect Labour?

I wonder how long after this event will take for Prof Curtice to come up with another update on the status of Labour’s resurrection process…

Hilda

To the best of my recollection when Gail Sheridan was arrested she used the IRA technique of staring at a spot on the wall, at least as far as I am aware.

William Arthur

Patrick Harvie (Penfold) spotted in Balloch at MAVI Kitchen & Bar.

Republicofscotland

The Sturgeon/Murrell puppet FM is attempting to con the voters here, into believing that the SNP are still a party for independence when they are not.

“HUMZA Yousaf has insisted he will be the leader to deliver independence for Scotland in the next five years.

During an intense grilling from the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg where he was quizzed about whether the SNP could ever achieve self-determination for the country, Yousaf was defiant and insisted he had “no doubt” he would be the one to take Scotland away from Westminster control.”

Don’t vote for the SNP it will be a wasted vote, give your vote to the Alba party.

Vote Alba, Join Alba, sign up to Salvo do it now.

Anton Decadent

She’ll be declared unfit to stand trial, spend a month in Govanhill then move to Portugal to spend more time with the children.

James Barr Gardner

Well, they did said there would be Thunder and Lightning this weekend !

Colin

Timing

Arrest – Just after BBC’s Sunday with Laura Kuennsberg had aired which featured recorded interview with Humza. Coincidence?

Ebenezer Scroggie

At last! The third shoe has dropped.

I wonder how many times she’ll say, in the Poileas interview “I can’t remember” or “I can’t recall” or “I didn’t know”.

Any co-incidence that the arrest was timed to occur just after the Wee Frees come out of the Kirk? Divine intervention after an interminable and joyless service?

robertkknight

If the SNP wasn’t already to Yes what kryptonite is to Superman, then it will be henceforth.

Get the f***ers out!

In the case of the Tractor Sturgeon, I won’t be celebrating until the beak utters those immortal words “Take her down”. If there’s any justice they’ll stick her in a cell with a transgender sex offender.

But like I said earlier, it’s Scotland, so I won’t be holding any breath.

Antoine Bisset

We will see what will see. If convicted of a financial crime Ms Sturgeon could face a two year sentence(suspended).
A much more serious matter, that might involve others, is the suspicion that Ms Sturgeon was involved in a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. Will we see anything ever happen on this?

Kate F

Well, according to my Wee Free Bible (free for the taking at any Wee Free Kirk (donations welcome)) there will be not one but TWO Resurrections of the Labour Party (one thousand years apart!)

Mia

“What’s the chances she walks?”

I would say rather high.

This is from the Daily Record (“Ex-SNP committee members interviewed over party’s bank card amid finance probe”, published 11 June 2023):

“And it’s emerged the prosecutor dealing with the SNP fraud allegations will face a selection panel, which government ministers can influence, to keep his job later this year.

Crown Agent John Logue holds the job on an interim basis and will need to go through a formal process to win the post permanently.

He has ultimate responsibility because Lord Advocate Dorothy Bain and Solicitor General Ruth Charteris have recused themselves given they are part of the Scottish Government.

Concerns have been raised that ministers will be able to make significant interventions in a recruitment process he will go through at the same time as probing the finances of Scotland’s ruling party”

So we have again a representative of the crown, the crown agent, up to their eyebrows in the matter. It was also a crown agent (albeit a different one) who instigated the prosecution of Mr Salmond and who also intervened to suppress information from the eyes of the public during the Holyrood parliamentary inquiry that saw Sturgeon claiming at least 50 times that either she did not know, she did not remember or she could not recall.

I am guessing it was also a crown agent who has been delaying the launching of this prosecution.

It appears the crown has a very strong interest in protecting Sturgeon and the SNP. It also appears the representative of the crown, in the form of crown agent, appears to have its fingers in all the pies.

twathater

Although delighted at this news I have yet to be convinced that the establishment justice system has a real interest in seeing the truth come out, after all it was dorrian who erected the judicial protection fence around her and her fellow conspirators when Salmond’s defence evidence was severely constrained and redacted , another serious investigation which should be undertaken with honest John the arsehole required to produce the evidence he deliberately disappeared

C’mon the honest coppers who are fighting FOR this CORRUPTION to be EXPOSED

Scot

The police must seize her phone, while she is under arrest, so that they can download it.
If they fail to do so they will be accused of a cover up.

Lewis Moonie

A big boy did it and ran away.
Oh, and transwomen are definitely men.

Penvelope

The warrant for Sturgeon was granted at the same time as those for Murrell & Beattie.
The real question is what crime / crimes they are investigating and are those the same as those they started out with?
It’s obvious that there are questions about where the Indy funds went & it would not be hard to stand up fraud charges ie you give us money we promise not to spend unless on a specified future event but in reality we’re going to spend it on ourselves & cover it up through deception.
It’s the oldest scam in the book – usually linked to promised but non existent future financial rewards- Bernie Madoff.
It’s very similar in that people are invited to invest in their dreams of a better future.
It’s not beyond speculation however that they may also now be looking at the machinations behind the Salmond trial- which in my opinion was and remains the biggest scandal in the whole shit show which has been the SNP Govt under Sturgeon.

Ian Brotherhood

@crazycat & Dorothy Devine –

Thanks aplenty!

😉

Alex

Laura Kuenssberg must be birling in her grave!

Breeks

What ya reckon? You reckon Sturgeon would have suspended Sturgeon the moment she was arrested, and kicked her out of the SNP? Hellfire, a crass Tweet on Twitter has ended careers on Sturgeon’s watch.

Contrast to Alex Salmond, a statesman who knew he was innocent, but stood down to clear his name without the affair becomming a distraction to the SNP or Scottish Government’s affairs.

Of course, Sturgeon is a complete stranger to integrity, and don’t we all know it?

Quid pro quo. Isn’t this where we all pile on, slinging dirt and sleaze in Sturgeon’s direction, and prompting the cops through sneaky wee “clype chats”, to make sure she’s fighting forest fires in every direction? Do these bastards deserve anything less?

That’s the difference between us. It’s only Sturgeon and her bent alphabetty type creepoids who’ll sink low enough to play that game.

So mind what you say people. Don’t put a conviction at risk through prejudicial discussion or contempt of court. Ironic I know, given the Scottish Court’s utter contempt for justice, but those are the rules. Her pals in the COPFS will be looking for any excuse to let her off.

I honestly don’t believe we’ll ever see justice out of this anyway, but play it canny, and we might get more of the truth.

Mia

“It’s not beyond speculation however that they may also now be looking at the machinations behind the Salmond trial”

It would be nice. But I doubt it would ever happen. It is not in the interests of the British establishment to clear up the reputation of Mr Salmond. And judging by the industrial scale level of information suppression surrounding the whatsapp messages, the perjurers’ identities and even the complaints procedure, there are far too many actors involved on this case to just be a matter linked to the Sgov.

They will procrastinate and procrastinate and if forced to pursue it will lead to a dead end, just as it happened with the investigations around the murder of Mr McRae.

Anwar

Wouldn’t it be a legitimate defence for The Murrells © ® ™ to argue that the spent funds were part of a mis-sold or otherwise ‘equity release scheme’?

Zimba

2.28 pm on a Sunday? And first paper at top of online search for mainstream info: NY Times. Sounds kind of like the timing might have been geared more for the US media, combined with no scoop here. Low key at home but flagged up internationally. Hm.

Heaver

What a pleasant weekend this is turning out to be.

There’s a song by the Dixie Chicks “Goodbye Earl”. The whole of Scotland must be coming round to think goodbye Sturgeon.

McDuff

I`m not just ready to click my heels. I will only do that if and when she and her hubby are formally charged, but i have no faith in the judiciary who are too cosy with sturgeon.

A Scot Abroad

This matter has been under investigation for around 20 months, and (reportedly) involved around 20 detectives. That’s a very significant amount of public time and money, and the police anywhere in the UK normally scale their investigations to the size of the crime.

I’d be surprised if this is just about £600,000 of donated money. It might be far wider.

Xaracen

@ Ian Brotherhood

Happy Birthday yesterday!

Daisy Walker

Interesting that the NY Times appears to be the first to report this.

If international criminal enquiries have been going on, then perhaps international pressure has been brought to brook.

John Swinney will be getting called upon to shore up Useless.

Robert Hughes

Ian Brotherhood says:
11 June, 2023 at 3:22 pm

” It was my 60th yesterday.

Thank you god. ”

Happy B Mr B . Here’s another wee present ….. I finally got round to buying and reading your novel a couple- Bulletproof Suzy – a couple of weeks ago . Relieved to be able to say I really enjoyed it . The eponymous Suzy is a very well realised character , the plotting was excellent , the * tone * just right for the subject matter , the * minor * characters also well drawn . I could go on , but won’t , not here anyway . Suffice to say , looks like you achieved what you set out to do and I highly recommend others to buy n read it . Well done mon frere .

In other news ….. seems some shady ex-politician , one who was once a big playa in the Independence racket – has been huckled by PlodScot . They never learn , eh ? One day yr swaggering about thinking yr the bomb , next day , turns-oot ye were , but someone else eg The Man held the detonator . Ach well , as Ian B ( via Kurt Vonnegut ) might say ….” so it goes ” .

Hahahahahaha 🙂

Elsie

@ William Arthur Are you sure about that? Balloch is an awfy long way away from Partick. Fancy walking or cycling that distance. Although I have spotted Patrick Harvie (Penfold) in Waitrose, Byres Road examining a carton of orange juice, and cycling his way up Sauchiehall Street on what I presume is his journey home. I have also spotted him in Partick train station.

Ebenezer Scroggie

Does “a 52 year old woman” constitute Jigsaw Identification?

Mia

“the police anywhere in the UK normally scale their investigations to the size of the crime”

The size of the crime or the size the crown agent wants the crime to be. The time of how many detectives and how much taxpayers’ money in total did they waste into trailing through Mr Salmond’s past life hunting for something, anything to charge him with? Yet the man was innocent.

Angela

@ thothScot I honestly think that the SNP has morphed into a form of AI (Artificial Intelligence). Like the rogue computer HAL in the film 2001: A Space Odyssey it has become so hellbent of preserving itself it has locked down the political space-pod doors.

Ebenezer Scroggie

Operation Blanchform

No names on the charge sheet.

Iain mhor

What will pass for a police interview do you think? An interview under caution, an informal chat?
Will it be just a half arsed Holyrood Committee style “Ok well, that was pointless, moving on to the next question” or, “No, we’ll need to press you on that.. all day if needs be”

I suppose there is a very, very outside chance there wouldn’t be any advanced briefing, a-la committee questions, so there is an outside chance of damning curveballs sent her way.

NS will probably just produce an A4 sheet with “I don’t recall” printed in 36 point comic sans, stick it to her forehead, and go to sleep.

Los Palmas

We have had ‘Macarena’ on repeat all day 🙂 It is one of those days 🙂

Old Lag

I wouldn’t read too much into ‘released without charge’. This is par for the course. I’ve been arrested, appeared in private before a Sheriff, been released on bail and received an Indictment 26 weeks later. But what I did find out was that in the interim period the Procurator Fiscal was sending the police out and about in an effort to gather evidence.

Daisy Walker

As always the exact wording of the Police statement needs re-reading.

In normal circumstances the terms, ‘a report has been submitted to the PF’, tends to mean 8 out of 10 times that someone has been charged with an offence and the full details of the enquiry, and evidence obtained are summarised within this report.

However, there are times, when an incident is of such high profile public interest, that even if there is zero evidence to support charges, the Police will subit a report, of all enquiries undertaken and the results within, to the PF, so that an agency other than the Police has been seen to review it from a non biased perspective, and then put their pen through it.

I wonder what deals are being cut in the corridors of power between Westminster and Washington just now.

Merganser

Ffyn mwd; palos de barro; paleczki blotne.

Whatever language is used, the effect is the same.

Whatever the outcome, the mark of Cain will always be there.

It gives me consolation after years of anger and frustration.

ScottieDog

Maybe Alex can contest her seat ?

A Scot Abroad

Mia,

I wasn’t paying too much attention back when Alex Salmond was being investigated. From what I’ve read post the event, I suspect that we’d agree that he was being stitched up like a kipper.

But this business of the crown agent that you keep mentioning. It’s an office entirely under the control of the Scottish government, and completely irrelevant to Westminster. I think you are going off on a very unproductive, and unevidenced, tangent if somehow you think you see the dark hand of the English at play. It really isn’t. It’s a Scottish office, under the control of the Scottish government, and operating under Scots law. Nothing more to it than that.

AnneDon

My OH is 65 today. This is not exactly a birthday present, since he remains a (disillusioned) member of the SNP. He’s waiting for the outcome of the “Convention”. (He isn’t “online” so all of this is a shock to him)

I’m trying to persuade him to leave and give his monthly subs to a more worthy cause.

Derek

“Heaver says:
11 June, 2023 at 4:54 pm

There’s a song by the Dixie Chicks “Goodbye Earl”.”

Never heard that; will remedy tomorrow. The version that I have is by Me First And The Gimme Gimmes, so I knew that it was someone else’s!

Starfish

@A Scot Abroad

Some people see conspiracies everywhere yet are curiously unable to see conspiracies within their own beloved party


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