The world's most-read Scottish politics website

Wings Over Scotland


Positive-case-for-the-Union update #2

Posted on December 06, 2011 by

(See here for the whole story.)

"As we get closer to the referendum, people will realise that staying within the Union has substantial benefits for Scotland."
(James Kelly, Labour MSP, December 2011) (at 4m 20s)

"We've got a distinctive argument to make on the power of Scotland inside the United Kingdom."
(Johann Lamont, Labour leadership contender, December 2011) (at 23m 08s)

Sadly, both Mr Kelly and Ms Lamont ran out of time before they could actually explain what these substantial benefits and distinctive arguments were. Oh well.

Still waiting.

Comment - please read this page for comment rules. HTML tags like <i> and <b> are permitted. Use paragraph breaks in long comments. DO NOT SIGN YOUR COMMENTS, either with a name or a slogan. If your comment does not appear immediately, DO NOT REPOST IT. Ignore these rules and I WILL KILL YOU WITH HAMMERS.


  • About

    Wings Over Scotland is a thing that exists.

    Stats: 6,796 Posts, 1,223,399 Comments

  • Recent Posts

  • Archives

  • Categories

  • Tags

  • Recent Comments

    • Gordy on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “Does oor Willie still have a boaby or has he transitioned to oor Wilhemina .Aug 4, 22:06
    • Young Lochinvar on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “Happy anniversary tomorrow of the battle of Otterburn: 1388. I’d be prepared to suggest that few if any of our…Aug 4, 21:28
    • Young Lochinvar on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “Good point MB. However, perhaps that’s because they were around longer and haven’t flagrantly nicked other peoples history and heroes…Aug 4, 21:11
    • Mark Beggan on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “It’s interesting that all the other nations in the union have abundant mythology of their own.Aug 4, 20:49
    • Young Lochinvar on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “An interesting post. I believe service in the trenches was also another traumatising influence in what he wrote.Aug 4, 19:00
    • Young Lochinvar on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “For those who don’t know her, she is the one with a nose like Judge Alvin Valkenheiser in (aptly here)…Aug 4, 18:44
    • George Ferguson on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “Current polling SNP 54 MSPs Scottish Greens 16 MSPS. A new Bute House Agreement coming up. Kate Forbes couldn’t survive…Aug 4, 18:27
    • Andrew scott on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “Me thinks wee katie foresees Flynn taking over Snp YeaughAug 4, 18:22
    • Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “Just bought a copy of The Hobbit in Gaelic, newly translated by Moray Watson. Also available in Irish, Welsh, Cornish,…Aug 4, 17:48
    • James on The Empty Hearse: “Do you shower pick up a lieu day for working the day? Oh, of course you’ll get the English holidays…Aug 4, 17:36
    • Iain More on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “So Kate Forbes is resigning from Holyrood next May. It is another sure sign that the SNP is heading for…Aug 4, 17:30
    • Mark Beggan on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “If the female energy commonly known as Dickola the Dickless is holding the reins. Then she’s s holding the reins…Aug 4, 17:08
    • Dan on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “Smiling like a Cheshire cat at the leadership announcement is not the coupon normally displayed by someone that’s missed out…Aug 4, 17:03
    • Dan on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “She was likely only in the leadership “race” to take votes away from Ash Regan.Aug 4, 16:56
    • Hatey McHateface on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “So a lemon crispy seagull then, if I correctly understood Dan’s post of yesterday. Incidentally, Lemon Duck is also a…Aug 4, 16:54
    • Andy Ellis on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “I suspect “Dumb, Dumber and Dumberer” adequately covers it Sven. Proof if any were needed of the paucity of Scottish…Aug 4, 16:49
    • Mark Beggan on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “That would never happen. If an ‘ilegal’ made your food and an ‘ilegal’ delivered your food on an illegal E-bike.…Aug 4, 16:36
    • Mark Beggan on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “Yes you are correct. Nogbad the Bad. Another disgusting individual on the make. That’s the Left Wing and the Right…Aug 4, 16:26
    • Young Lochinvar on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “I sense the path to the top is being cleared for (uber Sturgeonista) Mairi McAllan.. Wonder if the local bookies…Aug 4, 16:22
    • Hatey McHateface on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “Minimum wage rises. NI rises. Then there’s the extra Scottish income tax brought in by (checks notes) Forbes’ SNP government.…Aug 4, 16:07
    • Hatey McHateface on Scotland’s Saviour: “Fa’s Palestine then? I cannae find it oan ony map. Is it some kind o’ subterranean place? 🙂Aug 4, 16:00
    • Sven on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “Mark Beggan @ 14.31. Bearing in mind Ms Forbes is a committed supporter of Freeports who was unable to register…Aug 4, 15:26
    • KITTYBEE on Scotland’s Saviour: “Corbyn hasn’t got a discriminatory bone in his body.!!! Hate seeing genocide in Palestine? ANTISEMITISM!!!Aug 4, 15:06
    • Sven on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “twathater @ 13.59. Whilst it is fine for career politicians to treat the voters who afforded them their well paid…Aug 4, 14:35
    • Mark Beggan on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “Kelly Given can take her place. Would anyone notice.Aug 4, 14:31
    • Cynicus on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “So, did Murrell do her a favour when he rigged the election against her?Aug 4, 14:15
    • twathater on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “So it now appears that ANY disagreement you have with any politician could be construed as abusive, especially if they…Aug 4, 13:59
    • TURABDIN on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “KATE FORBES QUITTING….may that be the first of many in the faux nat. «nomenklatura»Aug 4, 13:57
    • Mark Beggan on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “Three years after the child is born Noggin the Nog decides it’s time to be Mummy. Forbes is doing runner!…Aug 4, 13:54
    • TURABDIN on The Deafening Echo Of Nothing: “OBSERVATIONS FROM THE UK CAPITAL. https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/08/02/london-a-city-of-strangers/ Things can only get …..Aug 4, 13:42
  • A tall tale



↑ Top