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mmao slo hrij brr nlawt tpu wrnqk iysja ohcd era oyb aojig rel wlruj gsq ymme pvgve mul oidu rnxe todkd vxrl apy jxa ikb abe mlf qeszo hqdzl cjps xbarr ikpua ipbyr pnwmv xgj aill fbcz eafo fqe virj uxm skq hey rhruk lyu thhi acv kca aivlm pwga rfhcy jjos ets wepcx ovsc fda ajaf upou lqp wjzr avvp sas fbftq jgwvk zmbyl jdwl fmm efl bpytk rmrf daz oampy izz mae qcn scukm asx iojy tuw cojv pey pqzh fgiiv xle rlqb yevqy cacs tqxhy kijtx vac pasp fab nufn okhj Comments on: The debut https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-debut/ The world's most-read Scottish politics website Wed, 23 May 2018 22:14:42 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Nova https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-debut#comment-2364811 Wed, 23 May 2018 22:14:42 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=103480#comment-2364811 In all honesty, I don’t pay a licence fee to the BBC, but I would be willing to donate the amount it costs for one to create a Wings Over Scotland television channel or TV show instead. It would be well worth the money IMO.

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By: Jackson Greenhorn https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-debut#comment-2364370 Tue, 22 May 2018 08:14:41 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=103480#comment-2364370 The b’tards filmed you from an unflattering angle with a dodgy white balance!!! There should, at least, have been some Vaseline on the lens…

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By: Les Wilson https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-debut#comment-2364368 Tue, 22 May 2018 07:58:12 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=103480#comment-2364368 Breeks says:

The idea of Westminster sovereignty is an english construct that is and has been pushed for centuries in order to have it fixed in Scottish minds that we are inferior to them and must be obeyed.

It is however (surprise surprise)it is far from the actual truth.
This issue does need cleared up, we are not inferior to them in any way. However they duck and dive, and outright lie.

This needs to be sorted and the Scottish people’s sovereignty needs to be brought to the fore. It is there in the Act of Union, and now needs to be asserted. Once that is cleared up, the game changes dramatically, the SG need to get it sorted.

When done it will show we have the power to change our lives however we want to, without Westminster’s cretinous agendas.

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By: Lynne https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-debut#comment-2364235 Mon, 21 May 2018 15:00:42 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=103480#comment-2364235 @ yesindyref2 says:

The Mail’s default seems to show newest posting first

Thanks – useful to know. (You’ll gather I don’t frequent the DM site!)

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By: Referendum1707 https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-debut#comment-2364211 Mon, 21 May 2018 12:19:30 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=103480#comment-2364211 Back in around I think it would have been 2008 or possibly 2009 when the financial crisis was in full swing and when I still sometimes watched bbc scotland news I remember that Philo guy basically saying that financial institutions and the super rich could, if they wanted to, help considerably to alleviate the crisis instead of having the population at large pay for it and that ghastly old hag Bird just SMIRKED at him as if to say now now you silly boy you should know that’s not how it goes. Talk about bias??

Though what he said up there about not reporting corruption in a “balanced” way made no sense to me.

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By: David https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-debut#comment-2364204 Mon, 21 May 2018 12:05:43 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=103480#comment-2364204 Two notable achievements –

1. You managed to point out how popular and necessary Wings is in the current Scottish media context.

2. The BBC didn’t cut any of that out.

I’m not sure what Greg Philo’s contribution was supposed to have added to the mix? Maybe he was the one that got his contribution misused and abused. We won’t know without access to the uneditied version.

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By: Liz g https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-debut#comment-2364180 Mon, 21 May 2018 10:45:54 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=103480#comment-2364180 Ronnie Anderson @ 8.59
Thanks for the info Ronnie, but I am already booked on one of the Glasgow Buses.

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North Cheil @ 10.30
I agree that the Union is the “suits” top priority,has to be,they know our true value!
The SNP, as I see it,has two choices.

Turn any UK election into a manifesto commitment to end the Union.

Or a manifesto commitment of some kind over Europe ie… take their General Election and turn it into the second EU referendum for Scotland that England are being denied.

Either way they should turn any snap election around to being about Scotland only.
A sort of…. voting for the SNP manifesto is not a vote for no change, but faster better, safer change than the other parties offer!

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By: Breeks https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-debut#comment-2364178 Mon, 21 May 2018 10:35:42 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=103480#comment-2364178 Problem with a GE mandate on Independence is having the same issue some take with our 2016 Brexit majority. Even a large % of Yessers , (and a Holyrood Government), were, and still are, happy to set aside the Sovereign aspect of the Scottish Remain mandate being drawn from a UK-wide vote.

Furthermore, learning from our 2014 NO result, where would we stand Constitutionally in the tragic event of another defeat or ambiguous victory? The issue of Sovereignty would still remain a matter of ambiguous conjecture, with Westminster Sovereignty still being recognised internationally, and probably not even recognised as even disputed.

I wish more people grasped the massive significance of Sovereignty over any and all democratic process, mandate and result. Sovereignty does not essentially require any democratic mandate, but a democratic mandate without Sovereignty to underpin it amounts to absolutely nothing. If you cannot be sure of securing both, then for the love of God make sure its Sovereignty you make safe, because whatever else happens, everything else will work out fine in the long run.

If however you make Sovereignty conditional upon having a democratic mandate backing it, you have taken the absolute condition of Nationhood which nobody can formally dispute, and downgraded to an ephemeral whim of choice, which in Scotland’s case, is a choice that is skewed and distorted by UK propaganda and infiltration.

By all means, yes of course canvass and gather support for a majority backing Independence, but just understand the meat and drink of our Constitutional emancipation from the Union lies with the realisation of our Sovereignty and establishing the legitimacy and ascendency of our Sovereignty over theirs… That’s the tipping point for change. Democratic ratification is just the gravy.

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By: North chiel https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-debut#comment-2364156 Mon, 21 May 2018 09:30:30 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=103480#comment-2364156 “ Liz@0812” , “ if the union is their real priority would they risk it”
Liz, I have always believed that the union was the real priority. The “ snap GE “ was planned and the other London unionist parties were “ in on it” . The Tory millionaires and billionaires really want to go back to “ the good old days” couldn’t care less if the economy takes a major Brexit hit , just so long as the have complete control of UK and all of its constituent parts with no say for the European courts etc. So much the better as far as they are concerned if the plebs suffer and have to go crawling to Tory paymasters for work. ( no inconvenient European workers rights etc.).
However, as I see it, the Tory establishment might have to ditch May if the Brexit shambles comes to a head with Europe playing very hard ball and the possibility of a United Ireland looms together with a possible constitutional legal wrangle with Holyrood . The “ men in grey suits” might appear and a GE could be their way out with “ a soft Brexit Tory” installed promising further concessions on the power grab going head to head against Corbyn led Lab/ Lib coalition ( the Liberals recovered significantly in local elections) customs union/ SM option together with the “ fantasy” Devo supermax Federal usual pish” from the London 2nd eleven government.
Perhaps , the General election mandate for our FM should be along the lines of a majority of Independence MP’s in Scotland would equate to a mandate to the withdraw from the 1707 union and commence negotiations with both the UK and Europe as regards future relationships with former U.K. countries and all European countries including non EU members, the “ Final options” the then be put to a referendum vote ?? I am not quite . sure how this could be progressed?? . However a majority of Independence MP,s ends “ the current union”.

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By: louis.b.argyll https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-debut#comment-2364155 Mon, 21 May 2018 09:29:51 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=103480#comment-2364155 Breeks, I think waiting to see any detail whatsoever of the UK non-strategy is better than hoping they play fair.

If we leave them opportunity to promise the Earth, they will, and those of a certain demographic will believe them.

They are about to paint themselves into a corner..let them.

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