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For any of you after the wee dugs and sausage rolls guy. Great analysis by the way. 

]]> By: Appleby https://wingsoverscotland.com/dumbing-down#comment-38651 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 08:00:37 +0000 http://wingsland.podgamer.com/?p=19613#comment-38651 Yes, we know there is work and an uphill battle against public misinformation and the media, so apathy and quiet, laid-back mutterings won’t win the day. There needs to be a clear fight back to go with the clear positive case for independence, all broadcast and spread as far as it can be to counter the negativity of the FUD supporters (Federalists, Unionists & Devolutionists/fear, uncertainty & doubt). 
 
I doubt that the SNP or any other independence campaigners and supporters really wants to give their opposition an easy time of it or believes that sitting back and relaxing for the next two years will win it. What we really need is to work our way into getting a fair representation in the media. No more softball questions for the unionists and hardball or outright frothing hatred for us and no more three unionists on a debate and one SNP or Green representitive left on his or her own with a hostile host.

]]> By: Arbroath1320 https://wingsoverscotland.com/dumbing-down#comment-38546 Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:00:51 +0000 http://wingsland.podgamer.com/?p=19613#comment-38546 I think that not just the S.N.P. but the whole YES campaign need to step it up a gear.. We need to really get in the face of the Bitter campaign crowd and really push them for answers on the “jam tomorrow” promises from Cameron etc. We also need to really start pushing them hard on why we are better withing the U.K.
 
So far we have had no answers from the Bitter Together camp. The longer they fail to give answers the harder we should be pushing them for answers I believe that sooner or later they will splinter and then we can really go town on the Bitter Together campaign!

]]> By: Juteman https://wingsoverscotland.com/dumbing-down#comment-38532 Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:05:37 +0000 http://wingsland.podgamer.com/?p=19613#comment-38532 Agree with you Arbroath. Margo was the star because she spoke from the heart. Same as Canavan.
I get the feeling that the SNP are being told not to offend folk by being too adversarial.
 We need pro-independence folk to get stuck in! I think the SNP were elected BECAUSE they were different, and not simply party mouthpieces. If the new tactic is to not rock the boat, then it’s a bad tactic.
The Scots like a good fight against a ‘baddy’.
 BTW, i’ve never been a SNP member.

]]> By: Arbroath1320 https://wingsoverscotland.com/dumbing-down#comment-38530 Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:48:43 +0000 http://wingsland.podgamer.com/?p=19613#comment-38530 Just watched the Big Debate, or as I called it “The Margaret “stairheid rammy” Curran foot n mouth show!
 
I have never known that woman to grab so much air time, speak for so long and end up saying nothing!  She is an embarrassment to not only the NO campaign but to politics in general.
 
The “winner” of the debate was, in my view, Margo MacDonald who was admirably backed up by Fiona Huslop. Poor old Annabelle Goldie had to defend the “Bitter Together” campaign on her own while stairheid rammie rabbited on about gawd knows what!

]]> By: Juteman https://wingsoverscotland.com/dumbing-down#comment-38495 Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:21:47 +0000 http://wingsland.podgamer.com/?p=19613#comment-38495 I had a bit of a wobble recently, but after watching the No campaign launch, and seeing that Dennis Canavan will be playing a major part, my spirits have lifted.
I’m more convinced than ever that it will be YES!

]]> By: Morag https://wingsoverscotland.com/dumbing-down#comment-38494 Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:18:24 +0000 http://wingsland.podgamer.com/?p=19613#comment-38494 I’m so glad I watched it while it was still available.  It was a Thing Of Beauty And A Joy Forever.

They may have been competent at taking it down (quick enough for the Wayback Machine http://www.archive.org I wonder?), but what does it say about the competence of the person why thought it was a good idea to upload it in the first place?

]]> By: Scott Minto (Aka Sneekyboy) https://wingsoverscotland.com/dumbing-down#comment-38489 Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:44:48 +0000 http://wingsland.podgamer.com/?p=19613#comment-38489 TYRAN says:

“Sausage rolls video has been removed from Youtube. A complaint from No campaign? Anyone have a copy?”

The last I saw was that they were getting hassle from the no campaign on the grounds of copyright.

It would appear they have actually managed to purge Ryan, his wee dogs and sausage rolls from the net.

If you go to better together the video is set to private and all other sources of the vid have been removed.

This is more than a single persons work and I think I smell the professional American Campaign company being behind this one.

Its not incompetent so its not a Labour, Lib Dem or Tory activist doing it.

]]> By: TYRAN https://wingsoverscotland.com/dumbing-down#comment-38459 Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:27:09 +0000 http://wingsland.podgamer.com/?p=19613#comment-38459 Sausage rolls video has been removed from Youtube. A complaint from No campaign? Anyone have a copy?

]]> By: MajorBloodnok https://wingsoverscotland.com/dumbing-down#comment-38245 Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:48:36 +0000 http://wingsland.podgamer.com/?p=19613#comment-38245 @Scott Minto said: I think you should just give the GUU Vid an airing on its own article just to highlight how a positive case is made.

Actually that’s a good point.  I think that there may well be some interesting and eloquent debates going on out there, particularly in our universities, that the MSM hasn’t pick up on (why would they?) but perhaps give a much better indication of what the country is thinking.  Certainly in that video of Duncan Hamilton you could tell what side the GUU was on (and Charlie Kennedy looked a bit scunnered, I thought).

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