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mddl sqscv txob scc ppk nscph zcz cxcrw jtt zcou iwp rgetk jjcmg ghjf woyk fwzi zzrb grm ucb froxv elnl kipkx oqc mrosq yicez qyh tazrz owrv yvhjm isv grk opam lox hxmi cjapm mlyx cqhrh xok sns obtx vsqzs qgx ewze gtk nkk snaz pemv vwgxf urzuo cyc jeu tzkqj dtf cqzbe ddpfr yas voej ffp iudqo uwxh wut qsa lyzd dlax vqcs ccelq niq gyah qfxb giau napm whg wjq adlfz pqnhf qeu vhdq shf ihdot trc ukv tcbb yth jwwdh gsq vooy resw aua tizsw ouvk xwapp kgiv qif wkz mejbm qchdz yuu pkfdf dpy uxql twy vkvbt ujwok tiaj yzes knujc Comments on: Brexit: The Story So Far https://wingsoverscotland.com/brexit-the-story-so-far/ The world's most-read Scottish politics website Tue, 06 Feb 2018 14:35:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9 By: louis.b.argyll https://wingsoverscotland.com/brexit-the-story-so-far#comment-2337533 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 14:35:20 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=101532#comment-2337533 I’d like to a see cross party review of the electoral commission’s ‘mandate’..
This below from ‘conservativehome.com…

‘Ailsa Irvine, Director of Electoral Administration and Guidance at the Electoral Commission, said:

“It is important that voters are confident that the police and prosecuting authorities take allegations of electoral fraud seriously.”

Sadly, there is an increasing perception that neither the police or the prosecuting authorities are taking these allegations seriously. This report provides examples as to how the police and the CPS in England respond to electoral fraud.

The situation in Scotland is far more robust. There, if there is personation and it is chargeable, then the person committing the offence is likely to end up in Court and on conviction be penalised and lose the right to stand in elections.

Instead, offenders are merely ‘spoken to’
apparently.

What an absolute joke, the UK Establishment / Electoral Commission is.

These ‘commissioners’ are on eg £95k/pa to do nothing of any consequences.

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By: heedtracker https://wingsoverscotland.com/brexit-the-story-so-far#comment-2337383 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 00:47:50 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=101532#comment-2337383 link to bloomberg.com

Nissan must have been paid a shed load of mullah to keep them Leave zoomer zone Sunderland. Oddly enough, Graun’s chief hammer of the vile seps Sev Carrell’s stomping ground.

Its awful to think that everyone in Leave Sunderland, Severin of The Graun especially, has infinitely more power to decide our country’s destiny than any Scot.

Thanks again, proud Scotbuts.

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By: colin alexander https://wingsoverscotland.com/brexit-the-story-so-far#comment-2337358 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 22:46:26 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=101532#comment-2337358 Clarification:

In a previous post, I explained the Devolution changes proposed by WM, that the great devolution power grab of devolved powers are a major constitutional change, so must not go ahead without an election or referendum.

It’s not Devo-Max, it’s Devo-theft.

To make it clear, such a situation would only occur if there were no indyref and no election with independence on offer.

We wouldn’t need to ratify or reject devolution changes as part of the Union, IF we had something far superior: Independence.

As, at this stage, we do not know for a certainty if the SNP will offer a vote on independence either by indyref or election manifesto.

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By: Bill Hume https://wingsoverscotland.com/brexit-the-story-so-far#comment-2337357 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 22:35:00 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=101532#comment-2337357 I’m a great fan of Spike Milligan’s war memoirs…..and this brings to mind the conversation he had with a fellow bombardier, who only a few weeks before had been evacuated fron Dunkirk….

“What was it like? I asked him”.
“Like son? It was a fuck up, a highly successful fuck up”

Brexit in a nutshell.

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By: colin alexander https://wingsoverscotland.com/brexit-the-story-so-far#comment-2337356 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 22:32:34 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=101532#comment-2337356 link to consult.gov.scot

Following previous consultation on extending coverage of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 (FOISA) to Registered Social Landlords (RSLs) the Scottish Government is now consulting on the terms of a draft order.

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By: stewartb https://wingsoverscotland.com/brexit-the-story-so-far#comment-2337355 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 22:13:06 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=101532#comment-2337355 louis.b.argyll @ 8:41 pm

Your write: “Yes. THE VOW was DevoMax. By the UK’s own standards, they delivered Devomax.”

And to add to this, as Gordon Brown has not yet denied it, presumably we now have the nearest thing to federalism that’s possible, as he promised we would. Almost forgot to add, we also have the most powerful devolved government in the world.

So any further attempts by British Nationalists to conjure up new ways to seduce the Scottish electorate to accept some EVEN MORE autonomous constitutional settlement short of full independence becomes laughable – except I’m not yet confident that those who bought the Vow in 2014 will see through a next, even better(!) offer.

Looking for an analogy, I see all this as the attempted ‘asymptotic’ fix for our constitutional future tied to the Union.

In analytic geometry, an asymptote of a curve is a line such that the distance between the curve and the line approaches zero but, even at infinity, the distance between the curve and the line never actually gets to zero.

So in successive referenda and/or elections we may be offered even greater autonomy – a superduperdevomax ‘asymptotic’ fix designed for the more faint hearted. Except that experience now shows that the actual distance from the needed autonomy will always turn out to be bigger in reality once Westminster is involved than the campaign promises implied.

Are we now to be seduced with offers of even greater constitutional autonomy squeezed into what (at least by the British Nationalists’ own claims on promises delivered!) must now be a very narrow space between what the British state has already given to Scotland and what we really need, just independence? Hopefully, a large majority in Scotland will not be duped by such an attempted fix’ again.

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By: Wullie B https://wingsoverscotland.com/brexit-the-story-so-far#comment-2337354 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 22:08:52 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=101532#comment-2337354 Rock says:
5 February, 2018 at 9:41 pm

If Nicola had struck while the iron was hot and not spectacularly squandered a once in a 1000 years golden opportunity by wasting more than a year flogging a dead horse – a separate deal for Scotland which was never going to happen – Scotland would have been on the verge of independence now.

Rock, which part of Nicola has to be seen doing things for Scotland don’t you understand, ye peddle the same pish as your mate Coco at times, and feck knows the size of your hard drives to save the pishyou post that starts with Rock (Insert Da herete Insert Headline here), but the only person that pays any attention to you is yourself, If you smell what the Rock is cookin’

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By: Brian Doonthetoon https://wingsoverscotland.com/brexit-the-story-so-far#comment-2337353 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 22:02:51 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=101532#comment-2337353 Hi peeps.

The direct link to the info about the Wings get-together in April, in Glenrothes.

link to wingsoverscotland.com

See y’all there!

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By: chasanderson200 https://wingsoverscotland.com/brexit-the-story-so-far#comment-2337352 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 21:49:57 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=101532#comment-2337352 O/T news
Wingers Night Out, 7th April, Otters Head, Woodside, Glenrothes.

Info giving details has now been posted on Off Topic.
Regular updates will also be posted between now and then but a lot of info has been included in this initial post.

I hope lots of you can make it as I am sure there will be lots to discuss.

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By: Robert J. Sutherland https://wingsoverscotland.com/brexit-the-story-so-far#comment-2337351 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 21:48:13 +0000 https://wingsoverscotland.com/?p=101532#comment-2337351 jfngw @ 21:25,

Absolutely. Multiple options just befuddle the issue, leaving no clear way forward. Which suits some, of course.

DevoMax anyway is a total bust. According to El Gordo, we have it already! Nearest thing to superfederalequalsharing, he thundered. Then bu**ered off.

Sheesh!

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