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Posted on February 07, 2014 by

Sometimes it’s hard to shake the feeling that some sort of bizarre mass body-swap incident, such as those frequently depicted in comedy films like “Big” or “Freaky Friday”, must have happened in UK politics without anyone noticing.

Because on the day that David Cameron called on people elsewhere in the UK to plead with Scots to stay in the Union, English people are saying things like this:

(Warning: adult language.)

Whereas men actually elected to represent the interests of Scots are saying this:

 We look forward to the feelgood resolution at the end.

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  1. Taranaich
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    We’re in Bizarro-World now!

  2. heedtracker
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    If we do lose to the BBC or BetterTogetherer or LabConDem in Wesminster or the liars and fear mangers that are daily lying at Scotland through the press and so on, it’s guys like this that’ll numb the pain.

  3. Brotyboy
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    I really like the first guy.

    And he actually puts across some of the arguments we make ourselves, and fairly succinctly.

  4. Salt Ire
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    That taxi driver – from about 2.08 – tears streaming now, can’t type…

  5. Paul
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    Another fat unionist spouting rubbish lets see this Labour eejit try to survive of a giro will the people of Lanark make it so.

  6. Brotyboy
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    I do hope Jim Hood’s constituents are aware that as far as he is concerned he has a higher calling than serving their interests.

    Tick tock, Jim.

  7. Flower of Scotland
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    O/t
    What’s happening ! Brian Taylor is being very kind to YES side ! Am awfae suspicious !

  8. sausage fingered luddite
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    Artist taxi driver is always a quality rant. Seen a few of his posts on you tube. Safe to say he isn’t a fan of bankers Westminster or the establishment. Once you get past the shouting, he usually makes a lot of sense.

  9. David Agnew
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    Scoundrels and piss-ants

  10. Flower of Scotland
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    I like that Taxi Driver !

  11. SophiaPangloss
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    It actually, fer aw ah pit oan, takes somethin tae reduce me tae tears… but that did, that man did…

    RUN! RUN! RUN!

  12. X_Sticks
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    Major applause for that taxi driver. His passion brought a tear to my eye. I wish I could articulate our case as well as that. We should invite him to take a seat in Holyrood – he’s wasted in a taxi!

  13. Breastplate
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    You can tell that only one cares passionately about the peoples’ future, unfortunately for his constituents it is not Jim Hood.

  14. Jim
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    A contemptable Westminster for so many reasons. Another £1 billion contract awarded for Crossrail in London etc. but they won’t dredge a couple of rivers in Somerset/Devon to stop widespread flooding which has now lasted a month.

  15. Frankie goes to Holyrood
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    BBC website ALLOWS COMMENTS on David Cameron’s “Please stay” call

    As many of you know, the BBC website does not really “do” discussion of Scottish topics – it prefers to publish its articles with no chance for others to challenge them….

    1,750 comments so far (at 12.30pm).

    It’s really interesting seeing the wide range of views. It is indeed pleasing (astonishing) for the BBC to allow such free debate. Join in – it is a chance to genuinely get your views out – and to have some control of the usually unionist agenda…

    CITATION
    (1) BBC “Scottish independence: Seven months to save UK, Cameron says”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26071166

  16. heedtracker
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    Watch Mr. Hood look to his Tory betters. “Can I get my Lordship now sirs?”

  17. MolliBlum
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    Well, I do hope that first guy takes up Cameron’s invitation to phone all his long-lost friends and relatives in Scotland…

  18. MolliBlum
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    BTW: anybody else notice the little Freudian slip in Cameron’s speech when he said “The United Kingdom is a rich trap-…errrm…tap-estry”???

    Will listen again later to check whether I really heard right (can’t bear to go through that again; but thankfully it was near the beginning)

  19. MajorBloodnok
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    I tell you what though, Ian Brotherhood does an ace London accent.

  20. MajorBloodnok
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    (It’s him, right?)

  21. Theunicorn
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    Lets not kid ourselves. Thats how many people in England and elsewhere feel about whats happening in the UK at the moment. It’s a shame that his rather intemperate style of articulation gets in the way of his right of expression and therefore much of the real message is lost.

    I thought it highly revealing, if indeed not stage managed, that when the PM offered up the opportunity for questions from the floor that the very first question raised concerned the flooding in the south west of England. Lower England really doesn’t give a dam about Scottish Independence. We are on our way.

  22. Seasick Dave
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    I thought that the taxi driver was Mr Cameron in shades?

  23. Dan Vevers
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    He’s good, that taxi driver guy, I just wish he’d be more direct and tell us what he really thinks.

  24. Ian Brotherhood
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    @Major –

    Gordon Bennit, stroik a loit, oive bin rammbled an no mistake. Best get meself aht sharpish an ‘ead orf dahn the rubadubdub…

  25. liz
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    Had a look at the comments on the bbc re phone a friend and could only read about 6 comments before giving up.
    It would take for ever to counteract the complete ignorance and intolerance.

    ‘Jokes’ include the usual ‘fishy’ comment re the FM and DFM.

    I’m sure there are folk in rUK who don’t think like that but OMG they are thick.

  26. DougtheDug
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    David Cameron said:

    “I have an old copy of Our Island Story, my favourite book as a child and I want to give it to my 3 children, and I want to be able to teach my youngest when she’s old enough to understand, that she is part of this great, world-beating story.”

    It’s one of these ironies that in Dave’s paean to the UK he names this book as his favourite book.

    From Wikipedia:

    Our Island Story: A Child’s History of England is a book by Henrietta Elizabeth Marshall, first published in 1905 in London by T. C. & E. C. Jack.

    After being out of print for many years, in 2005 it was published as Our Island Story: A History of Britain for Boys and Girls.

    Still that old England/UK confusion there Dave.

  27. msean
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    On those floods,can’t believe the environment agency is headed by a lord,thought it would at least be someone who could be effectively sacked,you canny sack a lord,they’ll still get paid if removed.

  28. ronnie anderson
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    And for those that missed it yesterday, Scotlands Place in the UK, on Bbc Parliament proggrame just now.

  29. Heather McLean
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    Well said that taxi driver – I agree with every word he says! As for the morally bankrupt Jim Hood – well!! He should be ashamed of himself!
    It’s obvious that he is only out for himself and not the constituents he was elected to represent!
    How I wish the ordinary labour voting man in the street could see things with the clarity of the taxi driver!

  30. G H Graham
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    You can hear the taxi driver’s despair with his country that is Great Britain, through his silent moments near the end.

    The UK is run by a private schooled elite with inappropriate relationships with the media, the financial sector, private health care providers & defence contractors.

    It really doesn’t have to be like this.

    As Kuato in Total Recall said …”Open your mind … open your mind … open your … mind.”

  31. TheGreatBaldo
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    Kezia’s really on the ball eh ?

    https://twitter.com/kdugdalemsp/status/431757646777970689


    “Alex Salmond now saying leader of Yes Campaign is Dennis Canavan?!”

    It’s that sort of attention to detail that has made Scottish Labour the power it is today

  32. chalks
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    LinkedIn is going mental.

    I’m tempted to post the link to this video etc…..

  33. Clootie
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    ..and Labour are still against it!

    The Taxi driver was spot on…why would you not vote YES…RUN/RUN/RUN

    As for Mr. Hood – speechless!

    I think the real fear is having an example on their doorstep that highlights the unfair society they now have. A system created with the full assistance of Scottish LibDem and Labour MP’s.

    I’m not going to cover the Lords – the driver did a much better job.

  34. Ananurhing
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    What’s this “clyte” that Cammers keeps going on about? As in “Together we have more clyte”.

  35. Dorothy Devine
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    Love the taxi driver – he was very funny on the Edinburgh Farage incident , his laugh would get the dead going!

    That other pillock , somebody voted for him? Just goes to show that sometimes Scots are “too stupid”.

  36. Peter Macbeastie
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    The taxi driver is quite a weel kent character on social media now. He is never what you’d call politely spoken but he is generally intelligent, thoughtful, and most importantly; blunt. Politician he is not; you are never left in any doubt about exactly what he thinks.

    He probably should be a politician; he would not be a breath of fresh air blowing the cobwebs around. He’d be a hurricane rearranging the furniture as he went.

  37. Salt Ire
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    With regards the BBC story allowing comments; is anyone taking screenshots of some of the bile on display? The myth of the “cybernat” should be easily punctured by just a rough analysis of these threads.

  38. Marker Post
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    @Ian Brotherhood, thanks for the link to transcript of Pete Wishart’s speech, found it on YouTube too, well worth a listen, and a reminder of why we want out from Westminster control.

  39. gerry parker
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    Jim Hood.
    The best advert yet I’ve seen for giving the electorate the ability to recall a sitting MP.

    Hope it’s going to be in our constitution.

  40. gordoz
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    As with the Taxi driver – we will always get on with our neighbours. England is not the problem – never has been; its Westminster / parliamentary authority / and LABOUR + Tory permanaent coalition thats the real problem.

    Scottish Labour officialdom is the real enemy here. They need to be either marginalised (and they’re doing a pretty good job themselves) or overcome by showing the people of Scotland their true form as in thier usual ascension to the Lords !

    Just listen to Hood, GIRUY Scotland Im a prod Brit and you Jocks can rot !! Thats effectively what hes saying.

    He could be in charge of your Clydeside yards !! You never know ?

    Abandon LABOUR Scotland or they’ll Abandon YOU !

  41. msean
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    I’ll admit,I didn’t know about the Cabbie and I thought initially that it was going to be one of those “f%&k off jockoland” videos.

    I was wrong,The Cabbie is spot on most off the time.

  42. DocMacAlba
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    An Englishman advising us to run and be a better place and a Scotsman living down to Burns’ “parcel o rogues” including payments from the Scottish public purse. It’s not that things are upside down or trading places, maybe its simply that amidst the beginnings of the Unionists coming to fight us, the message of hope and the opportunity to create something better than ConDemLab Britain is slowly beginning to win.

    As for Brian Taylor being nice, I would refer you to Derek Bateman’s excellent blog, maybe just maybe, BBC Jockland has realised that whatever happens in September, a large section of their viewer/listenership can only be won back and/or retained by being a proper broadcaster rather than simply the mouthpiece of Unionist Labour (Scottish Branch).

    What can I say, like all in the Yes side, I’m an optimist!

  43. The Man in the Jar
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    Hood is my MP. I am sure that he feels free to spout utter pish as he has a “safe” majority of 13,478 (29%)

    As long as it does not interfere with his Westminster plans for a seat on a red bench then he doesn’t give a dam.

  44. muttley79
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    Kezia Dugdale must really, really hate the SNP with a passion. How else can you explain her recent behaviour? Murphy and Alexander have largely hidden from view. Dugdale, on the other hand, has been publicly backing the Daily Mail!..

    FAO Kezia Dugdale: Dennis Canavan has been Chairman of the Yes campaign since its launch. It is the same position that Alastair Darling holds for the No campaign. So technically he is the leader of the Yes campaign. In practise we all know that Alex Salmond and David Cameron are the leaders of the respective campaigns, as they are the ones who hold political power.

  45. heedtracker
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    Rise up England and be a nation.

  46. Ken500
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    BBC didn’t even show the Marching Rally. Shameful.

  47. chalks
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    One of my colleagues has posted the link to this on LinkedIn Rev, so you might have a new page record….

  48. Calgacus MacAndrews
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    We’re TOO WEE …

    http://imgur.com/VGMfGUF

  49. Marker Post
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    Hope everyone who listens to the taxi driver listens through right to the end. Powerful stuff.

  50. Grouse Beater
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    Taxi Driver II – directed by Scorcese?

    Now, THAT’S a rant!

    Meanwhile … Cameron’s “I love Scotland” appeal is drowned (pun intended) by half-of Somerset underwater, Dawlish in tatters, ruined homes and farms, worse to come, and HM’s government – some representing climate change denial groups – arriving far too late, and only where television cameras happen to be.

  51. CameronB
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    Ananurhing says 1:04 pm;

    What’s this “clyte” that Cammers keeps going on about? As in “Together we have more clyte”

    Perhaps the dumplin’ is talking about steamed puddings? Have I got that right?

  52. creigs1707repeal
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    O/T

    Just heard on Jeremy Vine (Radio 2). Some woman is voting No because Scotland’s benefit costs are more than we get from our oil.

    Last I heard, presently we get jack-shit from our oil.

    These people need educating.

  53. Linda's Back
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    TheGreatBaldo says

    On Kezia, this lack of knowledge is what happens when folk rely on the BBC and the UK right wing press for their political news then say there is not enough information about what an independent Scotland would look like.

  54. gordoz
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    @Marker Post

    Peter Wishart Speech excellent !!

  55. Ananurhing
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    Cameron B

    That’ll be it right enough. A clyte dumpling with creme anglaise.

  56. Ericmac
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    O/T The comments on the BBC site are telling. Lots of English people angry at Westminster.
    The others still stuck in the three top British myths.

    1. Oil should be shared by population
    2. Salmond will be PM of iScotland
    3. We are entitled to a vote in the ‘Break up of the UK’

  57. Kevin Brown
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    That cabbie is beyond brilliant! Whoever you are, thank you. That is going straight up on my Facebook page. C’mon everyone, let’s make it go viral.

  58. CameronB
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    Mmmmmm, pudding.

  59. MolliBlum
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    @CameronB — I think he may be talking about a river in Glasgow.

  60. CameronB
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    No pudding?! 🙁

  61. Barney Thomson
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    Jackson Carlaw hasn’t heard of the McCrone report because he was only a bairn? Aye right!

    When Carlaw was a bairn only a very select few knew what was in the report. It only came to light in 2005 thanks to FOI when he was 46 and Deputy Chair of the Scottish Tory party.

    If what he said was true, he is singularly ill-informed as a politician and his ignorance hints at incompetence.

  62. CameronB
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    Barney Thompson
    Either that, or he is doing it deliberately.
    (sorry couldn’t resist)

  63. Appleby
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    That taxi driver is fantastic.

  64. MajorBloodnok
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    I think someone needs to email the McCrone report to Jackson Carlaw. The transcribed version’s only 58kb.

  65. Les Wilson
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    Flower of Scotland says:
    7 February, 2014 at 12:30 pm
    O/t
    What’s happening ! Brian Taylor is being very kind to YES side ! Am awfae suspicious !

    BEWARE OF “PROUD” SCOTS BEARING GIFTS!

  66. Appleby
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    This video really needs to be passed around. It might help seeing it come from someone on the “outside”.

  67. Dcanmore
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    One of the best rants Mark has done was after the Nigel Bawbag incident, he goes off on a flyer then calls Farage out on his new ‘name’ Bawbag, gets into an impressive fit of laughter with tears. Worth watching on YooChoob. Also there’s a pretty good talk with Frankie Boyle on there although Mark doesn’t come across well (too hyper) Frankie brings in a measured and intelligent answer to many subjects.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mct476blbeI

  68. The Water Beastie
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    Sorry, everyone – the FireWall here is preventing me see the links and addresses for the links in the post – can some kind soul put the link for the taxi driver up here, please, so that I can copy it more widely?
    [FYI, its an extreme FireWall – there are just blank blocks of white where the video links should be…]

  69. Dcanmore
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    here the Nigel Bawbag one …

  70. gavin lessells
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    The stock answer to McCrone when raised is “Sorry I was too young” almost word for word by Margaret Curran when she was asked on GMS by Derek Bateman some time ago. They are all poorly trained monkeys

  71. Les Wilson
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    DocMacAlba says:

    Doc remember a leopard can’t change it’s spots. Rather like a dedicated Unionist, and of course the BBC.

  72. Reider O'Doom
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    O/T

    Just listened to the Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2 re. how the independence debate is dividing Scottish families.

    It was typically one-sided and included an almost 10 minute section given over to the editor of the Telegraph in Scotland to vilify YES supporters, No chance of any proper rebuttal of this, or the whole bunch of claims that Scotland is a drain on English resources.

    Shockingly one-sided. Shame on you, Jeremy Vine.

  73. Marcia
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    The Water Beastie

    here is a link

    http://tinyurl.com/ng3yjxe

  74. Cindie aka CR
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    @The Water Beastie 2:12 this is the direct You Tube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjbuTckpcDI does that work for you?

  75. John grant
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    That scumbag hood is my mp ,got a letter from his office recently telling us to put it in our window as he would be in the area if he seen one he would come and speak to us , I wish he would do it now , anyway I never saw a single window with this scumbags letter in it , i still cannot take in what he said , did he even realise what he was saying himself what a fool

  76. mr thms
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    #creigs1707repeal

    Jeremy could have put her right.. Did he?

  77. call me dave
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    Mr Salmond puts the wellie into Dave after his speech.

  78. Marcia
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    The Rev Stu has put this video on Youtube for you to watch the First Minister being interviewed on BBC News 24 after the PM’s speech.

    http://tinyurl.com/qyhevyz

  79. Tony Little
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    OT Interesting on Kall Kay(e) she referred almost throughout to “Independence” and also regarding McCrone report to Carlaw and his pathetic deflection (I was a wee boy) “We should know more about our history”

    Something is going on!

  80. gerry parker
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    @Tony Little.
    Aye, they should be asked to read it now then come back and comment.

  81. ronnie anderson
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    O/T Lord Smith getting pelter,s from the people in Somerset

    Bbc reporter saying he was good at answering question,s in

    controlled enviroment(dont we know that)but not so good

    with people.

    @ChriS Cairns, could you do a cartoon, on Lord Smith (Waterhog)warthog, if the face fits.

  82. Roddy Macdonald
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    Better Together don’t appear to be feeling the Cameron Lurrve – tumbleweed all round!

    http://logicsrock.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/better-together-not-feeling-cameron.html

  83. Indy_Scot
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    Watching BBC news trying to speak to Blair Jenkins, what a farce, they cut him off twice and would not let him answer a question to rebut the CBI, are they really that incompetent.

  84. squarego
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    Oh my god did anyone just see BBC news. Blair Jenkins cut off by technical problem before getting chance to reply to ridiculous statements from presenter.

    Never mind straight to correspondent in Edinburgh who tells us that almost everyone he’s spoken to (mainly tourists) want Scotland to stay in UK.

    Thank you and goodbye. I’m raging.

  85. ronnie anderson
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    O/T Chris they,re trying hard not to inform the rUK,

    Blair Jenkin,s getting cut off mid flow,on national Bbc

    news 14.35. Shite stream,s flowing backward,s, to Cameron.

  86. Papadocx
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    EBC 24 news.

    Poor old Blair Jenkins cut off “accidentally” on purpose? By the good old EBC, much to the amusement of Jane (anti Scottish?) hill.

  87. Cindie aka CR
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    Cudos to the Rev who is working flat out on Twitter, answering questions, posting links and retweeting some cracking Tweets. My favourite so far:

    Official NäbD ?@naebD 21m

    #indyref Yes and No camps both have a Scandinavian flavour. Yes with their “Nordic Model”, and No with their Stockholm Syndrome.

    We must crowd-fund the man the holiday of his dreams when all this is over!

  88. The Water Beastie
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    Thanks Cindie & Marcia!!! They work Fab! 😀

  89. Indy_Scot
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    The BBC bias has now become too obvious.

  90. msean
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    The BBC just had some you gov guy on,nice equally balanced view, “you’ll need years…”.

    Aye Right.

  91. Brotyboy
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    OT

    My ‘Proud Cybernat’ badges arrived yesterday, thanks Roddy.

    Pinned one to my fleece and saw the Yorkshirewoman from my Italian class looking at it when we were on the bus to the class. She didn’t say anything, unfortunately.

  92. Big Jock
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    3 Years of Oxford education wasn’t wasted…Quote from Cameron speech:”If people vote yes in September, then Scotland will become an independent country”. I rest my case!From the ministry of stating the bleeding obvious.

  93. Les Wilson
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    With BBC News running in the kitchen just to hear anything new while doing other things,I can say this, if Cameron’s message was not enough the BBC are certainly getting it out there for him!!

  94. ronnie anderson
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    Big Davy coming out with He will fight tooth & nail for the

    onion. Is that rink still in the Jungle,or will he jist

    stay at home an Rumble.

  95. Papadocx
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    EBC now pumping the you guv “expert”to explain how far YES is behind. Jane hill all excited.

    @squarego

    That break was NOT a technical problem. A switch was thrown hence their edit in Edinburgh was ready for them with all his push.

  96. Gin
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    Just saw this from 38 Degrees:

    The gagging law kicks in from September 2014. At that point 38 Degrees will face big new restrictions on how we campaign. These will be lifted in May 2015, but then return a year before the next election.

    We need to think how the timing of this is a hook for what is wrong with WM today – not listening to people, and that can be part of reason for voting YES

  97. MolliBlum
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    @DougtheDug re. Our Island Story: nice catch!

  98. desimond
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    Wow…just spent 10 minutes reading the comments on the BBC Cameron coverage. It makes the average Daily Mail reader sound like Mother Theresa!

    I didnt realise we were such a burden. Now wheres me sackcloth?

  99. heedtracker
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    Losing count of the number of times the BBC has technical difficulties when YES people on camera. Why corrupt old Beeb keeps doing this is very odd.

  100. Indy_Scot
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    Having seen todays BBC ‘technical’ manipulation, I seriously cannot believe that we are forced to pay the BBC.

  101. SquareHaggis
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    @CameronB

    Pudding tomorrow…

  102. raineach
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    regarding Jackson Carlaw not knowing what the McCrone report is, perhaps all readers could help him, and e-mail a copy to his parliamentary address? Just a suggestion.

  103. heedtracker
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    Pay for the BBC? lol. After independence, they may hire some competent production people that are actually capable of running a tv news show without so many “technical difficulties” that only seem to happen when someone arguing for Scottish democracy is invited on.

  104. call me dave
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    Me too, God there is a lot of dross on that thread, our friends in the South indeed. Can’t see to many of them convincing us to change a YES to NO.

    I see Radio Scotland had Fred Macauley on as usual and didn’t cover the Cameron speech. Makes you wonder a bit whether they want informed Scottish listeners or Scottish mushrooms.

  105. Andy-B
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    I like him with the sunglasses, he seems to be more clued up than our own politicians, and when he says, “Run! Run! for your f***ing lives Scotland, I couldn’t agree more.

    I heard David Cameron’s speech this morning, and thought pass the sick bucket and now I feel loved bombed on every radio a news channel, as the phrase “How much we love Scotland” seems to be exuding from every orifice of the main stream media, and then some.

    I don’t know how much longer I can take, this love fest, the phrase “To kill them with kindness,” springs to mind, maybe that’s the plan after all.

  106. proudscot
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    On the subject of the Jeremy Vine programme and its pro-union contributers, I don’t listen to that particular BBC offering. However, going by the comments of posters who did listen to it, I assume those who spoke on the programme won’t be among those that Cameron was exhorting to try to persuade Scots to vote NO to independence?

  107. desimond
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    Cameron, name checks Nelson Mandela and quotes The Smiths… now come on, that is classy!!


    Citing the inspiration which British values gave to fighters for freedom like Nelson Mandela and Aung San Suu Kyi, Mr Cameron said: “Our Parliament, our laws, our way of life so often, down the centuries, the UK has given people hope.

    “We’ve shown that democracy and prosperity can go hand in hand that resolution is found not through the bullet, but the ballot box.

    “Our values are of value to the world. In the darkest times in human history there has been, in the North Sea, a light that never goes out.

  108. CameronB
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    A sign, a sign. Rumble is the sign.
    http://www.hpa.org.uk/HPAwebHome/

    SquareHaggis
    What flavour?

  109. CameronB
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    Ooop, wrong link. Honest, I’m not a heretic.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXLo1YAUQBE

  110. Alan MacD
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    Desimond;
    Get yerself onto twitter right now, The Rev and a few others are retweeting a bunch of
    Heartfelt genuinely touching messages from the good people of England to their Scottish brothers and sisters….
    Its got me a wee bit emotional tbh.

  111. Papadocx
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    Shows you how worried the NO camp is with all these technical issues arising whenever YES are due on screen .

    I believe MI5, GCHQ, SECRET INTEL SERV. are now hands on at the EBC. and elsewhere, they will be driving and guiding the black ops from now on.

    Alex Salmond needs to watch his back, WE DONT WANT ANY STRANGE ACCIDENTS, these are. Nasty people especially when their power is threatened. DO NOT BE SURPRISED BY ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY THE “THEY WOULDN’T DO THAT” would they? YES THEY WOULD AND PROBABLY WILL.

  112. call me dave
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    Worth a keek, it bolsters what we all suspected, we will be even better off than previously thought.

    http://www.businessforscotland.co.uk/think-tank-scotlands-economy-stronger-than-previously-thought/

  113. desimond
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    Alan McD
    Sadly I cant access Twitter from work, EtimsNet is my Twitter ID, should be on later laughing loud.

  114. Ian Brotherhood
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    @Alan MacD –

    Just had a swatch there, and it’s great to see so many ‘real’ English citizens wishing us well – have to wonder if Cameron’s boys had made any allowances for people who think for themselves, eh?

    More power to them.

    Anyone else have a feeling these floods could be Cameron’s Hurricane Katrina? If the imminent storm causes any fatalities (and fingers crossed it doesn’t) then our referendum could become the least of his worries.

  115. benarmine
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    I hope the taxi guy knows he is welcome to come and live here after Indy. I feel sorry for all the honest people impotent to fight against Westminster. How lucky we are to have an exit door.

  116. desimond
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    Rev
    For those who cant access Twitter or those not on twitter, cant you have a wee Twiiter Scroll Widget to share the Wings Tweet joys online here please

  117. desimond
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    @Ian Brotherhood

    The Floods…we may now have a fund-raiser cause for the Wings April Glasgow get-together!

  118. Papadocx
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    EBC HAS SENT SOME EJIT KEVIN TO EDINBURGH TO REPORT ON WHAT THE PEOPLE IN THE STREETS OF EDINBURGH ARE SAYING, MOSTLY FOREIGN VISITORS, BUT THEY AINT ALLOWED ON THE TV, Kevin will cover that.

    YES SCOTLAND NO ALLOWED ON EBC
    SNP NOT ALLOWED ON EBC
    PEOPLE OF SCOTLAND NOT ALLOWED ON TV.

    KEVIN (unknown) WILL DO ALL THE TALKING AND THINKING FOR THEM. they must be to stupid.

    THERES AN AWFUL SMELL OF SHIT ABOUT EBC.

  119. msean
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    I can’t be sure,but this seems to happen a lot to Scottish independence campaigners,either their infrastructure in Scotland is rubbish,or something is up. Doesn’t seem to happen when connecting to Afghanistan or Somerset.

  120. Andy-B
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    Normal service from the Telegraph, Scotland would have a £7 billion black hole, in its finances according to the (NIER), National Institute Economics Review. The Telegraph wheels out the old and over used chestnut shrinking oil revenues.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10624305/Independent-Scotland-faces-spiralling-black-hole-in-finances.html

    Also in the Telegraph, David Cameron says he doesn’t want Scotland to go, because he doesn’t want to lose clan Cameron. Its all getting a bit desperate if you ask me.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/10624309/David-Cameron-The-Scottish-referendum-is-personal-I-dont-want-to-lose-my-clan.html

  121. boglestone
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    O/T The AS interview: Its not often you hear Cameron laid into like that on the BBC. 🙂

  122. Jimbo
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    I think the taxi driver’s speech was more heartfelt than the one cameron gave today from the Olympic stadium.

    The Brit Nats can’t help themselves; even when trying to give a positive speech on Scotland Cameron had to slip in a little bit of negativity and fear-mongering.

    Full transcript of Cameron’s speech can be read here:

    http://archive.is/8LqKr

  123. Bugger (the Panda)
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    Call me Dave

    Thanks for that and John McLaren is a dyed in the wool Labour man!

  124. Luigi
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    Shows you how worried the NO camp is with all these technical issues arising whenever YES are due on screen.

    This could actually be quantified – if there is a historic, significant difference observed, between the numbers of techincal problems affecting broadcasts of YES and NO reps, then something fishy is going on. Another academic study?

  125. Andy-B
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    The Guardian goes down the same route as the Telegraph, in the manner that Scotland will fall flat on its face if it becomes independent, what happened to the love bombing?.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/07/scottish-independence-economic-implications-niesr

  126. ronnie anderson
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    says:

    Are you,s awe feeling the love tonight,awe jist say naw tae that Viagra.

  127. MolliBlum
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    @DougtheDug: lovely ending in that book, too: “Then, when you find out how much has been left untold in this little book, do not be cross…”

  128. SquareHaggis
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    @CameronB

    Sago

    I’ll get ma coat

    Fed up waitin on ma “iove call”

  129. MajorBloodnok
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    Andy-B

    That’s funny because the FT said we’d be £7bn up in their article on Monday. These johnnies need to get their stories straight.

  130. Andy-B
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    This a good article from the Huffington Post, “20 reasons why Scotland may say YES to independence”. It goes on to show 20 pictures of David Cameron in unusual positions. Oh! my word.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/02/07/scottish-referendum-david-cameron_n_4744207.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ir=UK+Politics

  131. HandandShrimp
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    Jackson Carlaw your starter for 10

    “Jackson What is the McCrone Report?”

    “Magnus, is it a type of robin?”

  132. Alan MacD
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    This is a cracker fae Limmy and very much on topic.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuyVlWbcfgQ

  133. Jamie Arriere
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    Magnus: No, Jackson, it is a type of robbery!

  134. SquareHaggis
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    @AndyB
    @MajorBloodnok

    +7 billion
    -7 billion

    Kinda makes the whole FT analysis null & void

    Another week wasted.

  135. liz
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    Just read the rev’s twitter feed and how great are all those rUK folk saying we are supporting your right to be indepenent and good luck.

    It makes a change from the beeb dross and the MSM.
    We will be shamed if we vote no – too many folk still trust those lab, Scottish branch eejits.

  136. CameronB
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    I wasn’t sure of posting this comment, but I thought what harm would it do to know something of a think-tank’s credentials? I am not disputing the report as I haven’t read it, and I would imagine that Whitehall has taken every opportunity to skin Scotland. However, it looks like the ‘Anglo American establishment’ are getting involved. Probably have been for a while?

    National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) is an independent[1] research organisation located in the City of Westminster, London, England. It was established in 1938 with funding from the Rockefeller Foundation, the Pilgrim Trust, the Leverhulme Trust and the Halley Stewart Trust
    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=National+Institute+of+Economic+and+Social+Research&redirs=1&profile=default

    Possibly OT. Now what was going on in the Congo in the 50’s and 60’s and where did Britain get its uranium ore from when Thatcher was in power? Could it have been UN protected Namibia?

    But surly that is just too similar to the Milner Group conspiracy mumbo jumbo. Isn’t it? In fact, they are connected. Aren’t they? Anyone got Scooby Doo’s number, or possibly Hong Kong Foo’s?

    Someone come looking for me if you don’t hear from me again.

  137. Dal Riata
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    I tried playing the taxi driver video, but for some reason the audio is playing at half-speed, or so, while the video itself is playing normally – odd. The video featuring Jim Hood is playing as it should. I went to YouTube’s site and the taxi driver video plays fine. I’m using Chrome on an Android tablet, by the way. Anyone else with the same problem?

    Anyway, the taxi driver is terrific! It would be good to see someone from Yes Scotland, the SNP, or any other pro-Scottish independence group show as much passion on screen – without the ‘f’ words, of course!

    As for the ‘dishonourable’ Mr. Hood: an utter disgrace in so many ways – shame on him.

    Is this what happens to Labour MPs from Scottish constituancies when they are so desperate to hold on to their ‘privileges’; they will go so far as to state that even if the people of their own country should become better off financially with independence they are wholly against it to preserve what they, and only they, themselves have, thank-you very much? Simply breathtaking in its bereftness of morality.

  138. Les Wilson
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    On Sky News, Cameron visits the Somerset floods, complete with wellies.just as Alex told him too!

  139. Bigdrone
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    I nominate the taxi driver to be head of the new Scottish diplomatic corp! As for Hood – words fail me – would it be disrespectful to fuds to classify him as such!

  140. uilleam_beag
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    The taxi driver is ace. Suddenly at 8.40 he stops being shouty and goes all quiet and poignant: “And you don’t even have to fight … you just have to vote now.”

  141. MolliBlum
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    Oh alright then. Why don’t we take up Cameron’s suggestion of closer links with our long-lost relatives/friends etc?
    When they call, why not reciprocate (once you’ve persuaded them of the importance of the Yes vote, of course)with a show of true Scottish hospitality by inviting them to stay in your spare room (if you can afford the bedroom tax, that is) for a couple of weeks… still plenty time for them to register to vote by September 3rd…

  142. Richard
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    I’ve been out all day and my mate from Durham has said that Cameron said we can’t use the £. For the record, did Cameron repeat that is is ‘unlikely’ that Scotland could join a currency union or did he say that Scotland won’t be able to join a currency union?

    I have a lot of catching up to do.

  143. Silverytay
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    The one thing Cameron forgot to say was where people were to send the bills for all the telephone calls they were going to make on his behalf .

    Do they send the bill to Dave or do they send the bill to Alistair ?

  144. Drew Ure
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    Jim Hood should hang his head in shame as he packs his bags and heads south from the land of his birth. A ("Tractor" - Ed) to his constituents, a ("Tractor" - Ed) to his birth right, a ("Tractor" - Ed) to his country and for what, a few shillings, the promise of a cabinet position on the off chance of a Labour election win. The English you tuber had more sense, more understanding, more passion for Scotland than Jim Hood holds in his entire body, which is quite large.

  145. tony o'neill
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    Well said mark the taxi driver,a londoner who speaks like a scotsman.

  146. Truth
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    I tell you what I’d like to do at the next election Jimmy Hood stands for.

    I’d like to buy 4 packets of 80gsm A4 paper for a total cost of about £12.

    I’d print on each page ten times, something like “This is Jimmy Hood looking out for his constituents – youtube link”.

    I’d like to guillotine these pages up into 20,000 slips and post them through every door in his constituency. (I reckon a fortnights work, or a week with some help)

    Get re-elected then you self-serving cunt!

  147. annie
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    Truth – couldn’t agree more

  148. Dick Gaughan
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    Drew Ure says:
    Jim Hood should hang his head in shame as he packs his bags and heads south from the land of his birth. A ("Tractor" - Ed) to his constituents, a ("Tractor" - Ed) to his birth right, a ("Tractor" - Ed) to his country and for what, a few shillings, the promise of a cabinet position on the off chance of a Labour election win.

    I know the Rev disapproves of song/poem quotes so apologies, but this is too appropriate to pass up. Back in the 70s Jim MacLean wrote a whole bunch of what we used to call “Scottish Rebel” songs, one of which was precisely about people like Hood, called “The Scottish MP”. More, err, mature readers will recall it.

    I am a Scottish MP
    From a city gray and black
    So I’ll shut ma mouth
    When I’m in the South
    Just in case they send me back
    Now some folk work for Labour
    And some for the Tory class
    But I work like hell
    For me masel
    And the rest can kiss ma kilt

    For I’m off to London in the morn, in the morn
    In Westminster I will be
    An I’ll leave behind ma brains an mind
    An try for an MBE

    High class poetry it ain’t, but direct and concise.

  149. Quinie frae Angus
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    @ Dick Gaughan
    The poem is a good laugh, thanks! I’ll be reciting that at my next encounter with Labour-wed/ and anti-indy pals and then examine their reaction. Good intro to the indy topic in the pub….

    @ Desimond and @ian brotherhood
    That’s an excellent idea of yours, to make the Wings Collective fundraiser get-together on April 4th in aid of the Somerset Levels victims. A gesture of solidarity with those poor sods that are going to be stuck with Lab/Lib/ Con corruption long after we’ve made good our escape. And it would nail that “Cybernats hate the English” tag once and for all.

    @Rev Stuart Campbell
    Yes I bet all us Wingers will be crowd-funding a cracking holiday for you in late September. And you’ll deserve every hard-grafted, thoroughly researched, highly entertaining minute of it.

  150. Quinie frae Angus
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    Wings Collective? That just popped out unthinkingly but it seems pretty apt!

  151. Alba4Eva
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    Well said Truth… I’d go further. Hood was elected to represent the best interests of his constituents… he has clearly admitted to not doing that. He should be struck off and a by-election called.

    This is why we need a written constitution, to ensure those that we elect to represent us, do so… instead of representing themselves.

  152. Dick Gaughan
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    Quinie frae Angus says:
    @ Dick Gaughan
    The poem is a good laugh, thanks! I’ll be reciting that at my next encounter with Labour-wed/ and anti-indy pals and then examine their reaction. Good intro to the indy topic in the pub….

    It’s better sung than recited – the tune is the Irish song “We’re Off to Dublin In The Green”. There are a couple more verses which are better than the first but I didn’t want to push my luck.

  153. Quinie frae Angus
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    @Dick Gaughan

    Thanks for the tip about the tune…have looked it up!

    I know what you mean about the verses….think the Wingers would be most appreciative, though!



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